Forget TunerPro. Use This Instead.
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- Опубликовано: 5 апр 2023
- If you use free tuning software to tune your LS based engine, you probably use TunerPro with either LS Droid or PCM Hammer. And if you use TunerPro, you've probably experienced problems trying to find the correct xdf file for your operating system, or you've had checksum issues when you go to save the file. Universal Patcher fixes both of those problems. In this episode I give a tutorial on downloading and installing Universal Patcher and demonstrate how to use it to remove VATS and rear O2 sensor DTC's.
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So glad this worked with my OBDLink SX. 20 minutes to "read entire", then 3 minutes to flash no VATS "calibration".
At first mine didnt work until i flashed the firmware on it. Now it works. Just putting it here in case others have the issue
so you’re able to use the sx?
@@chillestfern Give windows time to set it up. Might be a while, windows is slow.
Thank you. This is just the bit of knowledge I needed. Saved me a lot of time and money.
I used it yesterday and it worked fantastic!
Great Vid. Just what I needed to get started with this. Thanks.
Nice to hear from you again great video
Thanks Joseph, good to hear from you too! It’s been a busy winter but I’m back and will be putting out weekly videos now that I have more time available.
thank you very much for the headsup ! as a coder and open source enthusiast pcm hammer was the holy grail i was looking for
Thanks for taking the time to do these!
You’re welcome! Thanks for taking the time to watch!
You are an absolute legend, we have been trying to get an LS1 running in a lancia stratos kit car for years, couldn’t find the correct xdf file, now after following this video we have got her running in less than an hour, thank you so much 😂
That’s awesome! Glad I could help!
What Cord did you use
Wow this is super easy compare to other options ive seen .
Super happy to found this , now im not nervous to attack my project haha 🎉
Thanks alot
Thanks very much for your great information on tuning. I'm new to the tuning world and have learned a lot from your videos. I'm using PCM Hammer and Universal Patcher. I built a harness and using OBDLink MX+.
Universal patcher is great. Thanks for the how too. Now someone needs to make a video using Universal patcher and getting a big cam to idle .
Very helpful video
Appreciate the video! I'm going to check this out to enable e-fans in my 2004 Suburban.
Great video need way more universal patcher content I thought it looked extremely user freindly
I’ll be making more videos about it soon! I’m still learning all of the features myself.
You the goat bro, bouta be a 1987 Cutlass Supreme LQ4 and 4L80E ripping to life thanks to you!
That’s amazing!!😂
I’m working on a 1984 Cutlass Supreme
5.3 and 4l60E, but every time I try to read the pcm it gets stuck on 4% and it says it “couldn’t read block 2600 to 2xxx”
@@Sr_iRL I would try reading at a different speed either 4x or 1x if that doesn't work you could try writing a good bin to the pcm that works with your 5.3 and 4l60e
Thank you for making this, there was no xdf for my os and I got my truck started first try using universal patcher and obdlink lx.
That awesome, glad I could help!
Universal patcher is awesome. I am swapping to a p59 in a factory 0411 truck and the ability to compare to my stock bin to the p59 bit despite being a different pcm made tuning it to work easy
100%, the ability to compare bin files is one of my favourite features.
Thanks!
I used PCMhammer to read and verify my bin/OS file, was having issues with finding the right xdf file to make adjustments on tunerPRO, but universal patcher looks promising
Did my first one thanks to you , could you do a video on all dtcs to remove ?
Yup I've been using this one as well. Nice to have no more xdf's to deal with!
Yep TunerPro works fine if you can find the right xdf. If not it’s useless.
@@LowbuckLS I've taken pcm's that had os's I didn't have the xdf file for and just flashed them with an os/xdf file I did have. Right now I feel like I can find things easier in tuner pro but I just have to use universal more to get used to it. I didn't know what the 1D, 2D stuff was until you explained them. Seems like the creator of the software wanted to give many ways to do the same thing, kinda like windows does. Your gig is interesting. I have a friend that does the same 14 on, 14 off. He does fracking gas drilling stuff. Hard work, odd hours but great pay!
@@chuckdock4436 yes reflashing to a different OS works too, but you are overwriting all the existing tables when you do that. I'd rather change as little as possible in the tune.
Can I use this to on a carb LS application to control my timing?
Hey good morning. This is YourBoyEric again from Southern California again. I have a quick but important question for you about Universal Patcher. Turning off the MIL doesn't mean that a particular item has been disabled, if not how do I disable a particular item such as everything in relation to the engine because I'm using the 411 PCM for the transmission only. Again love your videos and will continue to be a subscriber to your channel. YourBoyEric.
I wonder if I can do this on my snap on Zeus. It’s a windows based scan tool with a Bluetooth dongle
awesome video. i was able to get into my ecu and disable everything i needed for my ls miata, the only thing i'm having trouble finding is the CAGS "skip shift" table. Does this program have that ability, or would i need a different program? im using a 02 Z28 ecu and harness.
How do I tune a car what are these files in what is this stuff
Thanks this isnt dosent look as complicated as i imagined.
And im done pretty simple. Took about an hour to stumble thru. On my first try. Thankyou again
Hey Thank you for the Video! I was able to disable the Vats and the column lock and it worked. No key chip used bypassed. Any way to disable the DASH lights indicator for SECURITY? Even thou its now disabled VATS. Only way to remove that light symbol is to use the resistor on the BMC..
Good morning. I have a quick question. If I wanted to delete, cancel or remove a particular assignment such as anything dealing with the motor, do I delete them the same way you do canceling the MIL or is there another function? Thank you so much. YourBoyEric from Southern Cali.
Can you help me,''Importing DTC codes...DTC search: can't find DTC code table'' i try to load bin file my bmw e36 1993
I just found you .. I’m currently doing a swap from auto to manual , I did see how you deleted vats and 02s on another video. Would you be able to make one changing a auto to manual ? Either on tuner pro or here ?
Well I'll be damned you helped me again 😂 hope your doing well!!!
Is it possible to use these programs to tune a 4th gen in a 2008 silverado?
You neeed to do a universal patcher video of a simple fan tune to help people get started. Another reason is because i'm trying to get my fans to turn on at a lower temp:}
The fans are in the 1D section
What do you recommend for Fan adjustment for South Florida "Miami" temperature zone.. Mostly Hot and lots of Traffic.. 2000 C5 Corvette, I pulled info stored from the PCM ECT_Fan1_High_Threshold 108.0078, ECT_Fan1_Low_Threshold 103.9844 ----- ECT_Fan2_High_Threshold 113.0078, ECT_Fan2_Low_Threshold 108.5156... Would Greatly appreciate any help!! BTW the way you explain in detail thing is awesome!!!
Can I use the mpvi 3 from hp tuners it this software?
Can i tune 2001grand marquis ls with this
2003 Denali. Says it cannot unlock and will not save Bin
hey i'm starting to watch all your videos> they are great!!
i have a cuestion: this softwere can read a dodge crossfire- mercedes?
if it does can i use it with a OBDlink SX or OBDLINK LX ?
i want to reove the VATS on my crossfire i have monts with my car yunked!
please i hope you can help me!
P.D. keep making this asome videos
I found myself using this program over tuner pro when I couldn’t find a matching xdf for my buddy’s ls1 camaro ecu
Yes it works great when you can’t find an xdf.
So I just downloaded tuner and LS droid to do this but this application looks much simpler. I just need to delete vats and do a simple base tune to get my swap running. Then it’s going to a real tuner.
One thing I’m looking at is do you just save a base tune when you pull it from the ECM, and make my adjustments and save that as a new one so I can go back to base if need be? Or do I need to find a file somewhere?
When I connect to universal patcher, I do not have a utilities function...only file, bin file and help. Has the program changed? Not able to access PCHammer. thanks for all you have done!!
Strange, maybe they did an update or something, I’ll download the latest version and have a look!
very usser frendly
does this universal patcher work on VAG cars?
So, I have just tried to use this software to write a vat deleted BIN file to the ecm. I bought a OBDLINK LX and it worked fine to read the ecm as well as to do a test write....both went flawlessly. When I tried to do a full flash....it failed. It said there was an unexpected error when trying to erase the ecm. Now I am stumped. I am not good at this stuff, any thoughts? I wanted to get the OBDX Pro VT, but none were available.
What cables work for this
Aw hel. I'll try it again.
Thank You very much Randy for detailed info. Am just now getting into doing tuning( out of necessity) for a 2010 Chevrolet Suburban i purchased 'as is' after the previous owner done a AFM delete and has always idled rough,,,got fed up working on the truck ,,,and i wound up buying the truck. Thinking this may have something to do with the VVT cam no longer existing and something not kosher in the ECU. Very slow process for me,not knowing what should be seeing. This will help a lot in my learning curve. Enough said.
That will be a Gen 4 engine so this program won’t work, HP Tuners will still be the best option for that one.
@@LowbuckLS OK Thanks for letting me know. Not at all familiar with what programs handle what generation ECU's.Thanks again Randy
Any clue why I can download the file and make changes but every time I try to access pchammer after bin file is created it won’t even bring up access to com 15? Tried several times with zero luck. Hooked to battery not wall charger
Thanks for the information….I was able to delete my vats but for some reason I downloaded the latest version but it won’t run pcm hammer I have to open them separately
Yes I see they have changed that in the most recent release of Universal Patcher.
@@LowbuckLS 😞 but it still works so thanks for the info I used tuner pro last night and I couldn’t get passed the checksum stage I tried all of them but I did this and fired right up
Got this program on my laptop but trying to use a Mongoose clone. Supposed to be the same as the GM one. It connects ok but will not read the ecm. Ever tried the clone one? Thoughts?
my version is missing pcm Hammer
would an OBD Link LX be a good way to use this? been watching your older videos and getting ready to start trying this myself! Looking forward for new videos!
You bet an OBDLink LX would work perfectly with Universal Patcher and PCM Hammer.
@@LowbuckLS perfect thanks! I downloaded universal patcher but every time i open it, it wants me to extract all the files, and if i dont pcm hammer wont open within universal patcher, did i download it wrong? or do i have to extract the files every time i want to open the app?
@@That99Chev no you should have to extract the files every time. Just open the Universal Patcher application from whatever folder you extracted the files to. You should only have to extract the files once.
@@LowbuckLS okay so ive got the engine lights ect turned off, but i tried to get back into pcm hammer through the universal patcher (after reading the factory file through it) and it wont connect to the obd link i have, that just used to to read it, im pretty lost to be honest
Randy,,Trying to figure few things out on Universal Patcher. Finally for the bin saved off my new/ 2010 Chev Suburban,,,problem child truck i bought ACDelco E38. What does the small black check mark above a couple entries in the left pane mean. Any idea?. Couldn't find any documentation on this at all. Thanks for the informative videos,on ECU/PCM,,hardware.
I’m not to sure about that, I’m just at work right now, I’ll fire up the laptop when I’m done for the day and see if I can figure out what they mean. I’m not sure how well E38 is supported, I haven’t done much myself with Universal Patcher on anything other than P01 and P59 computers.
@@LowbuckLS Hi Randy,
Looking some more I think the tiny black check marks that are directly above some entries is an indicator this particular value,,has a "set" parameter. In other words it is not at a default setting. My Suburban i bought has had an AFM delete into it,,and the previous owner got a Diablosport Predator2 in his cam kit to do the ECU delete. So,this bin has the DOD_activation changed in a couple spots in the readout,and this is where the small check marks,also. Also, It has a check mark above 'variablepump' something to that effect which is fuel pump settings. Not sure why this setting is non-default" Sorry for long message. Thanks agin for your videos,,for someone getting started in this.
I repaired cars and spent years with GM vehicles, then held tech Seminars in 7 states for ACDelco. For almost two decades GM uses a global architecture meaning metric on everything. I can go to Dubai, UAE, Egypt and others, the components, wiring, diagnostic flow charts and readings are metric. Remember, Jimmy Carter wanted 88kl on highways moving us and England (SAE standard / Imperial) into one. It sucked and never happened by a new motorcycle I bought went to 55 MPH and stopped. Shame because I could peg that in second gear. But at sea level water boils at 212 degrees F, but add 3 1/4 degree F for every lb of pressure the cap held on coolant. So, 264 degrees F before boil but the standard has been having the gauge in the middle straight up. This is 212.
I am not programming PCM's but 411 is a term for years on forums for the 4.3, 5.3L and others. Lost track and have no clue about the numbers/letters you thru out there. I installed an 8k resistor to do a 30 re-learn to run my sonar on a floor stand to clean injectors, compression check, leakage and live gage oil pressure. But will send mine to MO. for finishing the rest. Oh, I will be running a canister for purge, just no EVAP testing or EONV, which is common for detecting real small leaks. (Engine Off, Natural Vacuum) Interesting video, nice info.
DK, ASE Master Tech since 78, tech since 70.
Great info will this work for a E67 ecm
It only officially supports P01 and P59 computers but I think some guys are using it experimentally on newer ECM’s. I’ve only used it on Gen 3 stuff though.
I downloaded but I'm unable to run the program, anyone dealing with the same issue
I'm using universal patcher, is there a way to setup speed density/ maf delete ?
I’m sure there is, but I haven’t done it myself yet… I need to do some more research
When I try and select device, it can't find anything I'm using a o b d link s x.. Is that not supported?
Great video. One question, can a guy use a typical OBD2 FORScan to USB type adapter to connect to his PC or does it specifically need a bluetooth type adapter like the OBDLink LX?
I don’t think a generic USB to OBD2 cable will work, the one I recommend is the OBDX Pro VT.
@@LowbuckLS OK, thank you for the info!
@@LowbuckLSwhat about obdlink mx+ ?
Obd linkmx+? Need to know also.. thanks
First I want to say thank so much for showing this new program. I'm trying to change my VIN number. I've done everything right. After changing the VIN I switched off the signal for 1 minute then disconnected the power from the ECM for about another and restored power and signal back. Once I hit read properties the old VIN is still there with no change. What is it that I'm doing wrong. Thank you very much.
Changing the VIN can be tricky, I’ve experienced similar issues and don’t know why it doesn’t work sometimes. I think you can only change the VIN to one that is compatible with the operating system you are using but that’s just a theory. Sorry I don’t have a great answer for you.
Thank you still. I have a few more VIN's I can use. Will let you know if that's the answer
Water does not boil, under pressure at 100C (212f) It boils at like 270F with a 7 pound radiator cap.
I'm. A newbie to all this. I'm doing my first ls turbo swap this summer. Was planning to purchase hp tuner pro. Does this have a 2 step function also.
No you’ll need something like the MSD 2 Step, the stock PCM isn’t capable of a two step function. I have a video about the MSD 2 step here: ruclips.net/video/NSsjds3DOoc/видео.html
Thanks for that link. I thought hp tuners had a function for a 2 step.
I have been messing with it but somethings are hard to find on it as opposed to tunerpro. for instance the transmission range switch. cant find it on here. on tunerpro no problem.
I agree there are some parameters that are difficult to find in Universal Patcher.
@@LowbuckLSdo you know where or what it is called on there. I may need to use both programs to get everything.
@@LowbuckLS I was messing with it and found it. It is in vehicle systems/vehicle platform/type of discrete gear select. If anyone else asks
Ok. I am not a programmer. You said that you have PCMs for sale. How can I find out about buying a PCM? Are thry affordable? Let me know how I can contact you. Brad
👍 Take that YT
Does this support e38?
I downloaded it to my laptop but im not seeing tablelist utilities or xml at the top of the applaction. Im not connected to a obd port or anything look that should i still see those options ?
If you didn’t figure it out. You have to go to file then click mode and then go to advanced
So you turned off dtc and mil for the rear O2 sensors but what perameters do you change so it won't mess with the a/f ratio?I've heard some people say rear o2 sensors only tell you if the cat converter is bad but others say it changes the a/f ratio
The rear O2's don't affect air fuel ratio, only the front ones do. I wouldn't get rid of the front ones.
@@LowbuckLS that's what I was thinking thanks
Can I do any tuning with this program?
I’m installing 706 heads on my lq4 and was thinking it would be a good time to install a torque camshaft and would need to step up the idle and take away fuel up to about 1200 RPM
You can use it to tune but it isn’t quite as easy to use a HP Tuners. I plan on making some videos about the tuning side of Universal Patcher soon.
@@LowbuckLS I'll be looking forward to the video
Can anyone tell me why universal patcher can't open my bin file? It says something about can't find dtc code table! But PCM hammer says everything was written and read correctly
I’ve never had that problem before, what PCM are you working on? You could try join the Universal Patcher, the creators of the software are in that group so it’s a good place to get support for UP.
Hardware Type: P01_P59 Its out of a 05 tahoe with a 4.8 but ok I guess I'll give that a shot thanks
@@LowbuckLS
Working on a way to have a “crawl control”. Trying to use cruise control on a ls 6.0 gen 3. Drw. But the key to it is finding the 25 mph set limit, there has to be a way to lower that value in the programing. Then in my jeep I could set a 4 mph crawl, any help would be appreciated!!!!!
Hey Randy I’m having a hell of a time getting hptuners to work on a pcm I’m trying to flash and figure I’ll try this. Will the universal patcher software connect to the pcm through my hptuners obd2 plug?
You’ll use the OBD2 port but you’ll need a different cable/interface tool. The one I’m currently recommending is the OBDX Pro VT, I’m just putting together a video about it. Have it shot but not edited and uploaded yet. Unfortunately since you are in Canada like me it will come from Australia and will take a while to get here. Or you can use a J2534 tool like a VX Diag VCX Nano or Drewtech Mongoose Pro. If you want to shoot me an email at randy@lowbuckls.com I could probably loan you a tool to connect using Universal Patcher if you want.
@@LowbuckLS I appreciate it man, thanks for the reply! I won’t take your cable, I put in a ticket with hptuners and hoping they’ll have a fix for me. Thanks again, I’ll look into ordering the cable!
sounds like a cool deal, but the website has been down all day, is anyone else hosting the files?
Weird it was working last night. If you send me an email at randy@lowbuckls.com I can send you a zip folder with the files.
Just tried the website again, seems to be working for me.
I finally got it all working, I appreciate your help, if ya need anything i can do, let me know.
Will this work on my E38?
I don’t believe it will work with E38’s unfortunately.
Can you do them?
@@garyk8593 I can if you’re willing to pay for HP Tuner credits to do it.
how to get one of your E C M
You can visit lowbuckls.com/store or just send me an email to randy@lowbuckls.com
i cant even access the website at all
That's strange. I'll look into it. You can also see the PCM's and programming that I have to offer in the shop on my Facebook page, just search up Lowbuck LS on FB and make sure you go to the page, not the group. Click on the shop tab and you should see some products.
I see factory talk view on your computer. Only guys that deal woth controls and PLC's deal with that. Are you a controls engineer?
I’m a dual ticket industrial electrican/instrument and control technician in my day job so I deal with PLC’s and HMI’s at work.
@@LowbuckLS That's sick! I'm a controls engineer, writing PLC code and developing HMI's is my day job. You've helped me out so much with these videos, please feel free to hit me up if you get stumped on something and I'd be happy to help you out man!
@@BrothersNBolts sounds good, thanks!
bruh its much harder for beginners
I agree it’s not an easy piece of software to use and there isn’t much for documentation. HP Tuners is easier if you don’t mind paying for credits. But even HP Tuners is not that easy to use.
A word of warning - Univ. Patcher isn't perfect on every OS. My '99 fbody OS doesn't have everything defined in their program and other random things ended up getting changed after flashing like idle speed, dfco, and probably other stuff i couldn't find. I emailed the guy and gave him info and he said he'll work on it but i'm just saying double check things.
Good advice, always good to double check.
Wow man. I'm new to all of this I've spent the last month watching a ton of videos and reading forums and it's just got me more confused and discouraged. This video finally explains it to where a smooth brain like myself can do it. I got the $87 obdx pro last week but didn't decide on witch software to download. I'm definitely using this video as a step by step guide for vatsnkats. I'm going to assemble a bench harnesses this week. It's going to be about a month till the truck is ready to start though. One question though, my donor truck didn't have cruise control, can I still use this pcm to have cruise control? The donor truck was a 2005 Silverado 2500 lq4.
Again thank you so much for making these videos!
The PCM should be the same whether the truck had cruise control or not.
@@LowbuckLS thank you
@@LowbuckLS one last question. Once I follow all the steps in the video and actually write the pcm will it tell me when to turn the key power button off and on at the end. I'm using the bench harness with the switch on the key power wire.
Thanks again sir
@@wowitslou it doesn’t specifically tell you like HP Tuners does. I just watch the screen after hitting write and wait until PCM Hammer is done doing it’s thing and then give the PCM a power cycle.
Wait wait wait we can do this for free?
I actually enjoy using hptuners but I guess that’s because I don’t know any better.
Great video Randy!
I have to check it out
This works well for stuff like removing VATS. For doing actual tuning like making changes to timing and fuel I still use HP Tuners. There are logging features in PCM Hammer, Universal Patcher and TunerPro but I haven’t used them yet. I plan on exploring that feature at some point but for now I use HP Tuners for big tasks and Universal Patcher for stuff like removing VATS.