These Onslaught Builds Made Me Question EVERYTHING (Build Battles Ep 19) | Destiny 2 Into the Light
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
- Over the last few days over on Twitch, we've been running some Build Battles within Onslaught. This time around, we got some pretty interesting submissions. Which build took the top spot though?
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Throwing Knife Build: dim.gg/wtp3gsa/Big-Brother-of...
Ruinous Effigy Build: dim.gg/cltrdti/Evolution-Dest...
Final Warning Build: dim.gg/32ajwsy/broodster
Izanagi's Build: dim.gg/l4qrkpy/onslaughtious-...
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0:00 Intro
0:35 Throwing Knife Build
7:48 Ruinous Effigy Build
17:47 Final Warning Build
30:11 Izanagi's Build
40:35 Build Battle Winner
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Someone get that Antaeus Ward guy to teach Cross how to throw knives.
That’s gonna trigger some PTSD 😂
*Heroic Spider-Man theme intensifies*
I remember that...😂😂
Yoooo I remember that 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I just used the funny knife aim bot exotic and can attest that nobody can beat Antaeus Wards
*Aztecross: “I’ve got too many balls.” -2024*
10:20
He’s got more than 2? 😮
@@Andrew110 That was the joke 😊
@@BarderBetterFasterStronger
He was continuing the joke 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Imagine having a cool unique build, getting it on build battles and having cross say "This build is starting to struggle" after running head first into a brig cannon shot and dying.
The amount of times a perfect gameplay combo has been absolute OBLITERATED by a teleporting enemy... glad to see Cross is human too! 🤣
Glad someone is talking about final warning threading build, crazy add clear and if used right the sidearm does the highest primary damage in the game and can destroy yellow bars with ease
Pls no nerfs PLEASE
@@ringomandingo1015they wouldn't need it. It's SUPER nice, has next to no range even compared to smg, etc.
@@ElisArid yeah agreed you have to get in pretty close to mark targets
this hurts to be honest its going to be hit hard now with a nerf been milking it for ages😭
@liinkypink6665 you'd be surprised how many people don't no how to exactly use the weapon tho, it's one of the least used weapons for sure for that reason
0-2 in build battles but I like to make off-meta builds
Thanks for using my throwing knife build
(Edited) Thank you so much for the positive feedback, i might get banned again but imma do another build battle with off-meta builds. Thanks again ❤
It was great to see in action!
I'm gonna use this, thanks for putting it out there!
Athry's Embrace users in PVE are real and we do exist!!! Good showcase of it!
i thought it was cool! i love aggressive hunter builds! Ill try it out
I’m right there with you in off meta builds. They’re the most fun but obviously not the absolute best.
As a certfied Effigy enjoyer, this build kinda underutilizes its potential. Using it with something like Briarbinds and just standing in the middle of a group of enemies blocking with volatile active its just endless devour, weaken, volatile, suppression, and its super effective. On hunter the block wont break invis and will proc volatile with every tick of damage.
Agreed.
Volatile? Do the Transmutation Spheres inherit Volatile Rounds from Echo of Instability as if it were a weapon?
I just put together a Briarbinds build yesterday and I'm loving it, and Ruinous Effigy looks like fun.
There u go!! An actually effigy user cuz this is sad lol. My invisible hunter with this things is just NASTEEEE
@ShaoShaoMienshao it does, the orb essentially functions like a weapon, can make orbs of power on multikills and everything
Wait what glfalcona does that????
30:18 1 fragment is worth 50 %or 33% when your already spawning hordes of threadlike with the seasonal mod. Maybe if we didn’t have the seasonal mod but if you put that fragment into something that help with survivability or something else useful….I think you could definitely make an argument to swap it out.
I would have said 15-20% tops. There’s so many parts of the built and it’s a single fragment that yes helps by adding an additional threadling on weapon kills…. But that’s in addition to the horde of them constantly spawning off of unraveled targets. I feel like it wasn’t as helpful of a change as he made it out to be.
I agree, it seemed a bit harsh to have such a significant penalty for such a minor change
Agreed. Cross clearly didn't realize that Thread of Fury was meant to lean into the Survival power of Weavewalk by giving lots of Melee energy just for throwing or breaking the Tangles, which make Threadlings anyway due to Swarmers, and would suspend enemies too. The melees can also inflict Unraveling on their own, and Final Warning can as well. I think Thread of Fury is a perfectly fine choice that leans into the Ability aspect of the build, while Thread of Rebirth leans more into the Gun. I don't think it was right of him to change the build that way. I'm glad that the build still won even with the score reduction.
Changing the build and then deducting points because you changed it doesnt sit right. Difficult to explain, but i think build battles should be true to the original submission as much as possible.
Great video as always apart from that tho!
i agree, it’s kinda bs to change the build as it’s not the intention of the designer
Completely agree, that was rubbish on Cross' part
Cross clearly didn't realize that Thread of Fury was meant to lean into the Survival power of Weavewalk by giving lots of Melee energy just for throwing or breaking the Tangles, which make Threadlings anyway due to Swarmers, and would suspend enemies too. The melees can also inflict Unraveling on their own, and Final Warning can as well. I think Thread of Fury is a perfectly fine choice that leans into the Ability aspect of the build, while Thread of Rebirth leans more into the Gun. I don't think it was right of him to change the build that way. I'm glad that the build still won even with the score reduction.
Agreed. And unless Cross attempted a full run with Thread of Fury how do we know his substitution was better than the original? Thread of Fury makes it so Weavewalk is constantly available, which = at least three to four perched threadlings per conservative cast.
He should have at least done the first 10 waves before modifying it and saying it's better. Can't know if it's better without actually trying it properly first
Changing that Threadling build was a bad call. Deducting points for a change the submitter didn't ask for was even worse.
Cross clearly didn't realize that Thread of Fury was meant to lean into the Survival power of Weavewalk by giving lots of Melee energy just for throwing or breaking the Tangles, which make Threadlings due to Swarmers, and would suspend enemies too. The melees can also inflict Unraveling on their own, and Final Warning can as well. I think Thread of Fury gives both offensive power and defensive utility. It is a perfectly fine choice that leans into the Ability aspect of the build, while Thread of Rebirth leans more into the Gun aspect.
I don't think it was right of him to change the build that way. I'm glad that the build still won even with the meddling score reduction.
You commented this like 3 times we get it
I totally agree. First off, he changed his build. I hate when cross or any of the other guys come in and change a persons build. This is a build battle! You use the guys build as is period and the results speak for themselves. Having said this. I am glad that cross put out the build on its own in another vid because he thought it was so good. I am going to have to try this one for sure.
Thanks for having me again Cross and thank you again chat for voting for me!
Nice build man!
Quick question, if you don't have the GL what do you recommend we use instead? And you wouldn't happen to have a dim link by any chance?😅
Did u swap in rebirth?
@@Mikediszelwhy would he do that? Both you and Cross seem to have missed the point of the other aspect, it's for survivability. A good build isn't always just 'Get the highest dps possible'
Thread of Fury is there for more weavewalk uptime. more weavewalk means more threadlings and arguably more important, survivability
For the Weavewalk build Thread of Fury actually makes sense because Weavewalk requires/consumes melee charges. Since you have Hatchling and the Artifact Mod where killing Unraveled targets spawns Threadlings you should have enough already. Of course the swap you made would spawn more on weapon kills, but Weavewalk also stacks Threadlings and you get more uses because of the Melee energy gain. I think you could say it's dealers choice. But no Woven Mail means you are solely relying on Weavewalk, so I'd prefer the extra survivability tbh.
Thanks for giving my build a try! Even though I got the ban hammer it’s still awesome to see a fellow titan main.
I’ll be back with more and hopefully next time it’ll win!
Thanks again cross!
Ruinous Effigy is definitely one of our most "exotic" feeling exotics. The Aegis-like suppression shield, the unique dunk animation, its honestly incredibly cool.
It's fun double dunking the spark at the end of the hallway in the 5's rounds
Heliocentric has become one of my favorite weapons hands down this year. Heal clip comes in so clutch.
I have it with incandescent and heal clip on my stasis lock. It's nasty
I've got healclip/attrition orbs on the parabellum, does come in clutch to have the heal plus the orb drop if I need it for anything
Jurassic green with heal clip/incandescent is amazing
Heal clip returns such little health is not even worth it lol
@@raul2745 It gives me like 60% of my health back.
The creativity as cross stated deserves much credit in regards to the Vesper build.
Vesper is creative?
@@whatifwaterwaschunky7199it combines 3 different damage types uniquely, yes it’s creative
Saw a eyes of tomorrow build. I died inside at how much it cooked
I never go into a boss room without it.
what was it
@@juliussmithy7000 eyes of tomorrow, mantle of battle harmony on solar. Shoot rockets with 4x surge plus artifact and radiant. It’s infinite ammo big boy damage. Works better in legend too
Son: I want prismatic
Mom: we got prismatic at home
*2nd BUILD*
Final warning on foetracer hunter is nuts. Deals massive damage against yellow bars and pretty much clears adds for you
This just goes to show that builds are a personal preference. What really works well for one person might not so much for another.
For episode 20 you should go back and compare some of the winners of previous build battles
Dude I’ve been crutching a Swarmers build. It’s really nice, especially for the enemy density. I love it most on Midtown with those narrow hallways. It turns everything green.
15:16 LOL now I just want a full fireteam of warlocks running this build and chanting the sacred mantra 😂😂
These build battles are great, really showcases the creativity you can achieve in the sandbox.
You know what build is really fun.... Throwing on Felwinter's Helm and pairing it with a Solar warlock Health Regen/Scorch build it is so effective in Onslaught.
I tried a build with that trace rifle in Onslaught but it's a pain in the ass when you have those spheres to pick up along with two other kinds plus if a team mate dies and you go to rez him, you end up picking up a tangle then a transmutation sphere then one of the spheres you throw at the ADV before rezzing the guy.
So cool to see all these builds. Very creative and impressive.
watching these videos w/ the destiny title screen music playing in the background... makes it even more epic.
The build battle series is the best segment any d2 content creator has done. It’s inspired me to revisit some exotics and make builds for them! It’s been lots of fun using some of these builds too
Build battles has to be my favorite destiny content on RUclips. It’s really cool to see what other guardians cook up
Something about the transition at 6:30 was sooo satisfying, bro.
Final warning! Plunderthabooty is smiling
Facts! He definitely brought that weapon back into the limelight with his Hunter strand build
synthwave in the background of the final warning gameplay goes hard af
Lupus Nocte - Howling
Warlock build seems fun. Gonna have to give it a try
The need for final warning is obsolete. Ive been using a similar swarmers build for as long as ive owned lightfall as goofy as it sounds, monte carlo is the goat for weavewalk because it allows you to stalk up on threadlings much more often, and the weavers call is straight up better because of the massive threadling armies you can create, plus the new forbearance will demo and chain reaction, plus the intrinsic trait, you will make tons of grenade energy and a decent amount of melee energy which just makes the build so much better, and with demo there is no need for thread of generation, so you can run thread of warding. On top of all this, with monte carlo you can also use weavewalk as a form of get-out-of-jail-free-card. Because you wont have to worry about running out of melee energy
The damage output from final warning is absolutely ludicrous enough that you can easily put it as the focal point of your build, which makes it very odd that the guy in the vid used swarmers considering the only unique thing that swarmers provides when using final warning is 2 threadlings per tangle, theres like 5 other exotics that would be at least 5 times better than that. literally no reason to use swarmers over veritys brow. 2 threadlings per tangle, vs 250% grenade recharge, and 100% grenade damage PLUS 1000% grenade recharge rate to allies within 20m for 5 secs, youre net threadling count (and damage) will be significantly higher with veritys on top of your teammates loving you the extra regen lol. with the amount of add clear from threadlings and unravel with FW as well as the insane single target damage you'll need to use weavewalk a hell of a lot less, so no need to use something gen melee energy like monte, the best defence is a good offence
@@SikPuppyI'm guessing Verity would be the best FW option combo from your stand?
For that version better to have max strength or discipline?
@@unknown963_.-5 its up to you, the best thing about the melee is it applies unravel, but FW does that when 'fully' charged so just like with swarmers, going full strength is a bit redundant, I would prioritise discipline, recov/resil, then strength.
I havent tried to many builds focused around FW other than swarmers and veritys so im not sure what else could top veritys. I have no doubt trick sleeves would be great with FW and indebted kindness, but i really dislike the gameplay loop
I’ve been using this warlock and final warning build for months and it’s been my favorite, absolutely kills
the Ruinous Effigy build gives me ideas
I have a similar Swarmers build with some changes to aspects and fragments but the centrepiece is actually Indebted Kindness with Permability. Once you turn it Strand and get unraveling rounds, its unstoppable. Using Quicksilver Storm for more tangles, decent burst damage, and overload... its very fun and addicting. Plus the 3 artifact mods that are strand focused are S tier with Swarmers
Great way to start my day BUILD BATTLEEEEES
The knife bounce attempt on the brig is just insane
My favorite RUclipsr of 2024 for sure. I’m glad I discovered your channel!
The thumbnails on all the build battle videos are so good
Man, please keep going. I really enjoy your content.
Props to the vesper guy that's a super creative build and on top of that it WORKS
Editors cooking with the music vibes *chef kiss*
For the strand build I use the wanderer and the consume grenade aspects so they do more damage while also keeping the unravel and the aoe suspend
EDIT: you can go out of weavewalk by recasting it mid air once u have 5 thradlings and also if you consume your grenade it creates 5 threadlings instead of 3 just from the grenade
Final warning reminds me of that Men in Black weapon that's really small but incredibly potent haha
14:34 Your struggle was from focusing on the 4 little enemies instead of the Brig that was charging to blast you into oblivion. I saw it coming 4 seconds out ✌️
Hey Cross i hope you see this. A lot of people tend to ignore high stats on armor but for strand melee you shouldn't. The higher your Strength Stat is, the lower the cooldown obviously, but what many people dont know is that it escalates the more melee charges you have. For example, Eye of Another World with 100 Strength, the cooldown is 15 seconds when you only have 1 missing melee charge out of the 3.
For the final warning build u want max res recov n strength right?
@@unknown963_.-5 definitely max out strength and resilience, recovery is not much needed since I'm in weave walk like half the time, it's literally Weavewalk on demand but the best part is... YOU DONT NEED A SINGLE MOD!
I've run the same build with athrsys embrace and conditional, and when the knife hits, it hits like a truck thanks to the stasis freeze from conditional. One of my favorite to run on hunter.
An alternate you can do with the first build is use Shards of Galanor, that way you can get super energy from knife kills and Blade Barrage damage. I also like to use Skyburners in hipfire to scorch and use weighted knife for the instant ignition regardless of precision damage or not. Then use the fragment that increase class ability regen on scorch and have a dodge in a second or two as long as you fire skyburners from the hip
Cross, if you have void siphon, the ruinous ball light attacks also generate orbs of power and can helo out with ammo economy
Love how cross sounded disappointed or upset about slash's ban bro gave the saddest "yaa"
warlock strand build is INSANELY FUN, made me enjoy the game again, and I've been a hunter main since D1.
Wishkeeper is such a fun bow too
Strand hunter with mothkeepers and final warning *chef's kiss
Had two banner of war titans on the same team and went absolutely beast mode on that fallen boss with the two swords on round 50.
The vesper effigy build is a prismatic preview
It’s hilarious that we know that unironically he can use what he put here but more
Love running threadling build with orpheus hunter. 3rd person can run anything
32:43 yeah this has been happening to me a lot as well, consecration will sometimes just hog your melee energy and do nothing. I still haven’t figured out what might be causing it but it’s a pain to suddenly lose your melee ability in high end content lmao
the music in final warning montage was so comfy "jamming"
Facts I’ve been trying to figure out the song name
@rcxd2313 the song is by Lupus Nocte - Howling 👍🏼
@@undyinghesh9986 🙏
builds with object pickups struggle in onslaught since it seems the batteries have pickup priority.
You guys should put the chat on screen for these videos, would love to see the live reaction to the builds mid gameplay
For anyone looking for the song at 19:20 it’s. Lupus Nocte - Howling
This series needs to stay !
I was WAITING for you to finally use Final Warning in a build. Very slept on gun honestly.
He used it for a strand hunter build which is the build I use
Cross have you circled back to the Colonel Mustang build from season of the haunted. Curious if this would still work with the ad density in this mode.
I think the real strength of the Ruinous Effigy build is CC paired with some damage. It’s not a boss melting build but with Blinding, Suspending, and Suppressing, there’s always an avenue to hold down an area and kill off at least the weaker ads.
I used ruinous effigy a few days ago. Pretty potent I just had to be extra careful around the explodey bois
Vex and foetracer man, those fusion charge shots on vex are insane with foe tracer
Yo quick question unrelated to build battles, if you’re mid solo run and your internet goes out, does it mess up your solo run for rank 11? Not sure if it’s the same as the actual triumph and having to do it all in a single run. Was stuck at the Ogre for probably 3-4 hours losing my mind and then right at the final boss my internet cut out. If I have to restart, I don’t know if my heart can take it
The Space Jam loadout was insane.
I got too many balllllsss
😂
Cryosthesia works really well with the throwing knife build. That being said, I did not work for me in onslaught as well as it did when I used it in nightfalls
The editor is CRUSHIN with the music
What is the song for the strand warlock build?
0:08 Editors caught in 1440p 🤣
That music around 19:00 just hit me with a Super Fast Build mode vibe.
Yea instantly reminded me of Scar xD
I'm glad I'm not the only one!
Lupus Nocte - Howling
That’s the song ^ 🤟🏼
For the swarmers build If you dont mind having the grenade generate as is without the assistance of the fragment, you can swap thread of generation for thread of finality. Though it only spawns 1 threadling after a finisher it apparently doesn't have a cool down.
its also extraordinarily redundant to even use swarmers at all with final warning, considering the only benefit it provides is 2 threadlings per tangle, much much better off getting +250% grenade recharge rate and +100% damage PLUS 1000% grenade recharge rate to friendlies within 20m for 5 secs after throwing a grenade with veritys, youre net threadling count (and threadling damage) will be significantly higher with veritys. Swarmers just really aint it especially as the warlock melee unravels targets anyway, bungie needs to buff them to properly fit a 'summoner' type roll, maybe something like "100% more threadlings spawn from all sources but only deal 75% of the damage."
@@SikPuppy i think its more of just another source to unravel aside from only final warning.
You're right though, they need something to give it the little bit of umph.
And it's only with the artifact mods that both exotics are amped up a bit more. Once they leave the build will be dialed back in general.
The Parasite slander is insane 😂 its a pocket nuke and with the right setup you can make it a dps monster too
I love you cross but I don’t agree with changing the swarmers build. Even less deducting points because YOU changed it. With that being said, I will be taking a look at that build cause I’ve been trying to figure out a solid weavewalk build, thank you to the creator whoever you are
One that is very underrated: Astrocyte Verse. Hear me out!! Remember, blinking near enemies makes them Volatile, there’s no cool down on how often you can apply this debuff doing this, the only cool down is for Blink itself which even then Astrocyte let’s you do more frequently. When defending from ads this is an insanely good tool for crowd control that lets you free up a perk from weapons with volatile rounds with a different perk. Also, as a PvP main, this is fun to pair with Repulser Brace with Retold Tale.
Edit: My source, I’ve been a Voidwalker main since D1 Day 1.
that knife build looks fun af
So crazy it might actually work I love master of disguise
I created a suspend titan build... wanted to use quicksilver storm since I never really did... also watched hatchling. Thread of Rebirth is a badass fragment, the build is gnarly.
The bounce the knife part killed me
43:00
SLAMMING
RRRRIFFTINGGG
MELEE
EEEAATIINGGG
15:13 actually lol
1:13 That throwing knife build is kind of like my build but i use ophidia spathe with skyburner one hit with skyburner and then knife to ignite is so much fun, and if i run out of knifes gamblers dodge to get them back and with skyburners doing scorch using ember of singeing i get my dodge back fast so its just a loop of scorch and ignitions, but at the same time as im doing all that i get gunpowder gamble to do even more damage,
Vesper should be used kind of like how you'd use your barricade, to close choke points. Ruinous was meant to keep you alive while you were surrounded so you could build another rift. And I honestly value the blinding from arc more than I value unraveling or suspending from strand here. Still, very creative and fun, might see if I can optimize it further somehow.
Am i tweaking, or there was a small loop at around the 30-31 minute mark with the Peregrines build?
does concentration count as melee ability, if so would dunemarchers be good to pair it with
19:30 Got that Super Fast Build Mode I see)
Just a question, is the build battles ban a permaban or is it just, like, a month?
arthrys embrace with shattering a frozen target is insane damage
That effigy build was my fave.
Skyburner with weighted throwing knives is the play not parasite
ive been using ruinous with briarbinds, thats a potent combo, youre going to have to retrieve the transmitation orb anyway, might as well pick up the child too.
is there a spreadsheet with all the builds and their ratings or a tierlist
The Final Warning build is IDENTICAL to my Quicksilver Storm build I've been using since the start of Season of the Witch. Its dummy good.
Overcharged GL's was last week, this weeks overcharge is machine guns and snipers, iirc.
43 minutes of build battles! Now I gotta change my pants. Thanks cross
final warning strand build is my favorite thing to use rn in onslaught