1800E Economy vs 1800M Premium Compact Tractor from Massey Ferguson (2021 Edition)
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Why is their $5,000 Difference between a Premium (Full Featured) and Economy (Basic) Compact Tractor?
Join us as we compare the differences between the Massey Ferguson 1840E Hydro and the 1840M eHydro Tractors to show the differences so you can determine which is Best for Your Needs & Wants. We go in-depth into Engines, Transmissions, Loaders, Features and Functions.
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M series all the way - looks like a direct rrplacement for the 1635. Great video.
Yes the 1735M Series would be the the current generation for the 1635 Premium Tractors. Glad it helps. We did a video to show how the Massey Ferguson Compact has evolved over that last 10 Generations: ruclips.net/video/5ShYiNVtylo/видео.html
Very nice presentation and comparison of the two tractors!
Thank you very much! And thanks for the comments!
Hey Doug ! Great video as always & I would love to have a 1800M with a cab if I had the need ! I just wish I had the need.
You and me both! Love our 1526 we have at home and ability to get into places it can that larger machines can't. But Cab would be nice coming cold days and hot summers here in Missouri
the rollback on the bucket loader on the m series is incredible never seen that much rollback before
Exactly. Most don't think about Rollback Angle but it allows you to carry more and especially liquid or semi-liquid substances without spillling.
Have the very, very similar loader (DL125) on a 1736m power-shuttle , and the loaded articulation is incredible. When loading ,it is "almost automatic", because it pulls the whole Tractor into the pile. Also scoops up the smallest amounts. It works FABULOUS. The 1800e series is (by the looks) same design, should do the same (Just less capacity). Personally want the new 1800e to augment ( because it's slightly smaller)my 1736M. NO OTHER tractor brands have this much bucket articulation in these two series in comparison. ( l also have ONE of those "orange tractors"). The transmission-rear ends on both in gear & hydro are massive! Plus they are super flat &have clean undercarriages. Simple said 20% more money for 40% More tractor features & capabilities. ( My 2 1/2 cents. "Massey-Ferguson-the last Tractor You Will Ever Need". I have two & want # 3.
That is some good information. Thanks for the comments and it's a feature many do not discuss or think about that sure makes ownership better. Congrats on Massey #3!!!
At this stage of my life I'd go with the M model. Worth the extra 5000 to me. Time to start thinking about trading in my 99 1240.
Them M series have lots of nice extra features for those that appreciate or can use the added features. Visit your local dealer and they can help start making that process happen. Supply chain is still congested with orders so think early before you need and your dealer can have your tractor ready when you need it.
Beware! I tried the same thing with a brand new (1 week old) 1840E which has a bad gear bearing in it. The dealer (not Vahrenberg) in my state wants over $8,000 PLUS my brand new, defective (AGCO built it, not me. Ain't my fault) 1840E tractor with less than ten hours on it. It's the best AGCO headquarters would do in supporting the quality of their tractor and "service" to the customer. If you try to trade up to an M model, even a lower HP, you'll end up paying thousands more than the M model sells for if you'd avoided the trade. The difference in the 1840E and an 1835M tractor is about $2700, but they want my week-old, defective (from the factory) PLUS over $8,000 to make the trade. It protects the dealer at the expense (if you're stupid enough to bite) of the customer. Customer concern does not exist with AGCO. AGCO will screw you royally on a trade in, my friend. Sell it and buy outright if you can.
Warranty should cover fixing your tractor at no cost to you at the Dealer you Purchased it from. Are they not going to repair your 1840E??? If you are unhappy with the way your dealer is handling your concern contact:
AGCO ANSWERS: AGCO Customer Service Department at 877-525-4384 or email: agcoanswers@agcocorp.com
I also have a 99 1240 and haven't had to replace anything but fluids, tires and battery. I'm looking at maybe a 2860 M.
We sell lots of the 2860M Series Tractors one of the most popular sizes and models we sell in the 2800M Series. We have lots of customers using this for take care of livestock and getting into Small Hay Business with the 1745D Round Baler, Smaller Discmowers and Raking Tractor.
I would totally just go with the M series. Worth the extra money
That is why we did the video, some see the value in the extra cost and features and some do not. Great part is Massey Ferguson has products to fit the needs of both buyers.
Does Massey have an option of a smaller chassis like the E series with options comparable to the M series? I need the smaller size to get into small areas but want the convenience options in a 40 hp range.
Not 40HP but they make a Premium Featured 25HP even smaller than the 1800E Series called the 1526 . Here is video we did of it: ruclips.net/video/WqMkPlOj0oE/видео.html
I cast my vote for the M. Do I win one? You could deliver both to my place. I'll test them for 5 years, then give you a report. Sound fair to you?
If we get some free tractors to test where do we need to send them? LOL
We love the M series but the E series is great tractors too. Just have to find which is best for you.
I have the 2019 2706E in shuttle. I like the extra PTO HP. I use plows, Rototiller, disk harrow and I like a 7 foot brush hog. My E has everything I need and it came standard with the soft start. The only option, I wish I had was the rubber floormat, but some car mats took care of that. I don't have a cab but I am considering a canopy for the sun. Do you have any recommendations for a reasonably priced canopy?? I would like an air-ride seat also, As a big guy, the flip-up spring seat isn't cutting it! More options = more stuff to go wrong. I like a basic gear driven tractor. I am not mechanically inclined and have to pay for all service and issues. So far my Massey is awesome!!!
Curtis Industries makes a nice Aluminum Canopy that is Quick Detach so you can remove easily when transporting or when not needed. Sparex and Hy-Capacity both offer after market air ride suspension that your dealer can order for you.
@@VahrenbergImplement Thank You! Massey has some large ROPS...Will the Curtis canopy fit the ROPS on my 2706E? They say no larger the 3inches wide and 2 3/4 inches thick.
I had a Customer who introduced me to the Curtis Canopy and we ordered one for him and he installed on 2607H Series Tractor which has a wider ROPS than the 2706E does but he had to do some customization. I would have to wade through some super deep snow drifts to measure a 2800E ROPS but thinking it should fit. But to be 100% sure I would have to measure the ROPS.
Would either of these tractors be capable of running a Rhino AGC10 bale grapple?
RhinoAG ACG10 Grapple is 790# which is below the lift capacity of the loader but adding 10 bales and how far forward the weight is located. You would need to add rear ballast like wheel weights or ballast box/implement to the tractor as it would get very tippy. 1800E with FLx2407 loader lift capacity at 19.6" Forward of Pivot Pin at 59" Height is 1109# (Probably too much with 10 bales and Grapple) the 1800M with FL.2611 Loader at 19.6" Forward of Pivot Pin at 59" Height lift Capacity is 1750# (Could handle but close to the limit with bales). I like to have extra jsut in case and would recommend looking at 2800E/2800M or the 2600H Series of tractors would have excess capacity and probably handle better and you be much happier.
Wait! You can get a power shuttle shift on the M?
All Cab & Platform Models of 1800M & 2800M come in Power Shuttle Option.
Funny how all the other tractor manufacturers pick in the number one selling tractor in the USA. Yes I would rather have a metal body and iron rear end housing. Is it better? Preference I think. But there has got to a reason they sell more tractors than any other manufacturer in the US. Must have a better tractor in some way! I am not knocking MF in any way. Grew up on a 165 and 275. Good tractors.
Not picking on any tractor manufacturer just proving what you get with Massey Ferguson. Massey Ferguson is on more farms around the world than any other brand. We Sell tractors from 22.5 HP to 400 HP and only been around since 1847. We've learned a few things over those years. Maybe building dependable tractors is reason we don't sell more because they keep on running like the numerous Ferguson and 100 Series that still are called on every day and on farms around the world. We sure trade for lots and lots of other colors at our dealership. The Massey Ferguson Brand is rapidly growing in North America and rapidly growing marketshare.
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Yep,know about those long lasting dependable tractors. Still have a 1957 JD 620 and a 1956 AC WD45 on the farm still giong.
@@bradbruggeman6745 & I'm still running my 1959 M-F 50 year round alongside my 2018 M-F 1526! M-F = Mighty-Fine tractors .
Who makes the smaller MF tractors? seriously thinking of purchasing a cab model in the spring but there are so many different models and manufactures to choose from.
Massey Ferguson has been a partner with ISEKI corporation of Japan since 1991 manufacturing compact tractors for Massey Ferguson. Cab Models would have to be the 1800M for 35 to 40hp or the 2800M Series for 50 to 60 HP Compacts.
I have done alot of research on 70hp tractors which was alot of fun. I only looked at JD...Kubota...Mahindra.....and Massey...After looking at all the costs and going with peoples advice of buying a tractor with more than you need...I went with a MF 4707 with a cab. First cab tractor so we will see how I like it but I would have been fine with open station. Essentially one of the biggest differences of options for others being standard on Massey and also the mf 4707 has no Def fluid but from my research it is the same as the 100hp of the tractor that I could return down the road to get more hp from the 70hp. Happy tractor buying
Lift capacity after pins ? 1400lbs pallet to lift 2 feet off ground ?
Lift Capacity is measured at Max Lift Height of the 3 Point Hitch but can be measured at the Hitch Balls or 2 Foot Behind the Hitch Balls. 1800E Series is 2205# at Hitch Balls and 1598# at 2' Behind Hitch Balls at Maximum Lift Height. 1800M is 2800# at Hitch Balls and 2535# at 2' Behind Hitch Balls at Maximum Lift Height.
What about loader lift
FLx2407 Loader on 1800E Series: Max Height 94.3",
Lift Capacity at Pivot Pin at Max Height: 1450#, at 59" Lift Height: 1437#, at Ground Level: 2288#.
Lift Capacity measured 19.6" Forward of Pivot Pin (Front Edge of Bucket) at Max Height: 1047# at 59" Lift Height: 1109# at Ground Level: 1670#
FL.6211 Loader on 1800M Series: Max Height 100",
Lift Capacity at Pivot Pin at Max Height: 1870#, at 59" Lift Height: 2220#, at Ground Level: 2950#.
Lift Capacity measured 19.6" Forward of Pivot Pin (Front Edge of Bucket) at Max Height: 1380# at 59" Lift Height: 1750# at Ground Level: 2170#
So will either of those tractor/loader combo pickup a round bale to move it down an alley? (~1100 lbs) I have seen other manufacturers post their tractors/loaders can pickup a round bale weight on their spec sheets, but when the dealers in my area of the other brands actually tried it, the tractor was just not long/heavy enough to lift it and my local-ish dealer had not tried and nobody has any tractors to test.
We did a video with "Unballasted" Tractors like they come off the delivery truck to the dealer...not recommended for lifting but proves the tractors capabilities without rear ballast. Add rear ballast and you could lift higher. 1700E is now replaced by the 1800E Series and the 1700 Premium is replaced by the 1800M/2800M Series. this was 4' x 5' Bale from Massey Ferguson 1745 Round Baler estimated weight was 900# ruclips.net/video/vRMmYJbaPvU/видео.html
@@VahrenbergImplement awesome, exactly what I was looking for, thank you!
E series made in Indonesia vs M series made in Japan
ALL 100% ISEKI Owned and Controlled Manufacturing Facilities. With the growth of the Massey Ferguson Brand ISEKI ran out of space in Japan to build enough tractors to satisfy the demands and yes they expanded manufacturing to their facility in Indonesia. They split product based on features to keep it simple to manufacturer one series of tractors like all the M from Japan and all the E from Indonesia instead of mixing manufacturing and having to double stock parts and train employees...more efficient when you build the same product over and over and easier to stock inventory to assemble product.
@@VahrenbergImplement Good to know, thanks for the detailed response
the 1800E can u get a cab??
1800E Series is Platform Only. If you want a Cab Tractor the 1800M Series is offered in Platform or Cab.
Plz cost ,????
You need to talk to your local Massey Ferguson Dealer for Pricing as it varies by options and location. Plus Promotions and Pricing can vary. To find your local dealer: www.masseyferguson.com/en_us.html#dealer-locator
Title gonna be 1840 E VS 1840 M thanks
Like your idea so upgraded title to 1800E vs 1800M series since both the 35hp and 40hp models are similar except engine hp.
Kid toys
They may be small...but you would be amazed at what they can do...that Big Tractors Can't. Every Farm can use a Small Tractor there are only a few that can use Big Tractors. We are selling more and more of these to Big Farms to do tasks more economically, running augers, working in tight spaces and more.