I bought an 1835M cab tractor in September of 21. I have 135 hours on it so far. I use it for feeding big bales both 1000# round bales and 1200# big square bales. I have fluid filled tires and it has no problems handling the bales. We used to be a full operational farm and ranch. I still have 10 Masseys from 42 hp to 80 hp. I am amazed at this tractor. It is very quick for handling bales and pushing snow. This is my first cab tractor, and I don't think I can ever go back to an open station. This tractor has renewed my love of farming. I have spent about 30,000 hours on a tractor in my life. This is not just a hobby tractor, this is a small farm capable tractor. This morning my oldest son and I were unloading the load of hay from the trailer. It was only single high as we are a local haul. I had all of my side done and half of my sons side. He was on the 80 HP tractor, with a standard transmission. I was able to unload 3 bales to his 1 bale.
Great Information...You're exactly correct these tractors may be smaller in size but that one of the Biggest Benefits. More nimble and maneuverable than big tractors.
We received an 1825E yesterday to and collected video footage but we edited and published this one first. Stay tuned it's coming soon. Share some videos of your new tractor. We love watching owners gets to use their tractors. Thanks for the comments.
Thanks for the great review Doug, outstanding as usual! I really love my 1740M eHydro, but I believe if I was ever going to upgrade, I would wait for the 2850M or 2855M. It seems like with the new engine on the 1800 series in comparison to the 1700 series (Shibaura), you lose a little horsepower both at the engine and PTO, that's a little disappointing, but hopefully as the manufacturer refines and continues to engineer the engine they will gain that back. The one thing that I think Massey Ferguson should do, particularly with the premium series compact tractor, is go ahead and put the third function on, a set of remotes, and the soft drive for that matter. In my opinion, when a consumer is buying a premium tractor, in most cases, they are willing to pay a little more for factory installed options rather than after the fact which has a tendency to cost even more.
I agree with the thought on the additional options but not everyone wants those added features which will raise the price of the tractor. I personally like them as options and customer could customize or dealer install to customer needs. We can order with a set of dealer installed remotes we've only added remotes to one tractor so understand why they don't add them, most customer don't use them but be cool to have to the option to have factory installed remote option. As you well know the compact tractor business is very price sensitive and adding too many options might price potential customers out of the market. Maybe we could have two version like the cab models a standard and deluxe version??? That is an idea. I will share some of these to Massey Ferguson. Good Stuff! THanks for the comments!
I keep asking for that Option in North America. With many novice users it would make great safety sense too. I know in Australia that is the only way they can have loaders. Thanks for commenting and watching!
I have a 1835m shuttle shift. It came with a belly mower that works fine. I just purchased a rear mount mower but cant get the rear pto lever to move to engage it. How do i get it to move?
You know what is really bad, I'm 61yrs, I remember our massey Ferguson back in my school days, i was already like 10yrs old, we had a massey Ferguson 35, it had a 2 piece frame, late 60s,early 70s,and I think it was already about 10yrs old, and I have been watching RUclips varhanberg tractors and, I miss my tractor bad, that tractor would be 60,70 yrs old or older by now, I've discovered a new possible money system for income, who knows, I might find some money in the future, so I can buy my new loyal best friend and a new member to my family, and having a new tractor or new toy ,is all a state of mind, the emotional price we all put on our equipment, just my opinion, you can't put the lottery on that, it's like the work horse of the family, respect it like a new born baby, monthly, weekly, daily, hourly maintenance, 24/7 ,just like raising a family , just remember, the most important thing in life, GOD IS ON THE THRONE, GOD IS IN CONTROL, GOD HAS THE FINAL SAY, GOD IS ALWAYS TALKING TO US,God is always by our side, God will decide when you need what ever you need something, wayneeden95@gmail.com
Exactly. He is in complete control of our lives. But love your comments on Massey Ferguson. May God Bless You too and your dreams come true. We love our Massey Fergusons too!
IT's an awesome model. Hard to keep in stock selling faster than we can get them. But visit your local dealer and Pre-Book one and Lock In Pricing and Promotions.
Well, Hello Duog, I learned afterwards if you write your comment text over 3 comments, the way this RUclips channel stuff is setup, they won't accept 4 message comments, so I'm reentering my last big text comment, yesterday I was researching and browsing different setups about "" lawnmowers,,,,,well considering all the details, but everything still depends a whole hell of a lot on good maintenance, anything can last a lot of years, well, it finally came to me, and I finally figured it out, that even though the arrangement of massey Ferguson has the American body style, the main body style and along with the Japanese motor from agco, I'm not crazy about Japanese motors, but that's mostly besides the point, for as much as I have watched your videos channel, and why I am sold on massey Ferguson, even though it has a Japanese motors, well here's the biggest reason, the hp motors go well above 30hp, and the other reason is, I really like the arrangement of the body style design, I wouldn't always need the front end loader, I wouldn't always have my front end loader on it all the time, but for the idea plus I get a midmount belly mower on your 1700, 1800 series, I'm just in the mood for a bigger class of muscle, and a super wide 72" 6ft path ,,that's got me hooked like pulling in a big fish, and for any reason I don't find reasonable customer service up here in Indiana, I will not hesitate to try and make the attempt to buy one off of you, people have been known to do crazier things, you know how it goes,,everyone is different, what I did was, I was giving you a big plug on another lawnmower video channel, I know money has a lot to say in all these matters,,but everyone has to do what ever they can, I like the massey Ferguson body style,,and that's close enough for me, sometimes engineering will make the total difference, and now suddenly I have had the weirdest view point of the tractor in general, GOD created man , then man created the tractor, now even though I have said that I think, massey Ferguson rides like a Cadillac and is built like a tank, I'm also gonna put another humours phrase on the massey Ferguson is GOD'S WORK HORSE , I hope that idea has a nice ring to it, it's a member of the family keep the maintenance up, gotta them in good health as well, I will shop up here in Indiana for what ever it's worth, time will tell, later, wayneeden95@gmail.com
I keep asking. 1526 is an awesome model. My Family actually personally owns one we take care of our property with. I've requested some up dates to that model. Biggest problem is there is only one model in that series and might make the costs or increase in price and make that model uncompetitive priced. Hate to lose the price point of the 1526. But maybe they can find a way to update in the future.
FL.2611 Loader Specs: Lift Height 100", Lift Capacity at Pivot Pin: @ Max Lift Height of 100" is 1870#, at 59" Lift height 2220#, Breakout Force at Ground Level 2950#. Lift Capacity at 19.6" Forward of the Pivot Pin (Approximate Front Edge of Bucket: At Max Lift Height @ 100" is1380#, at 59" Lift Height is 1750# and Breakout Force at Ground Level is 2170#.
I shopped tractors for months in early 2019. The lack of a DPF was a MAJOR contributing factor in my decision to buy a 1740M. I'm not sure I would make the same decision now with the 1800M series.
Well Stage/Tier 5 Emissions is coming and who knows what every manufacturer is going to have to do to meet the new more stringent regulations. Massey Ferguson with the ISEKI engine is already there. Every engine has emissions components, EGR, DOC, DPF or DEF Systems to meet the current Tier 4 and will be even more for tier 5. The user control and longer time between regens is much simpler system and less components than prior models. 50 Hours under normal conditions for most customers is a one or twice a year regen. And if you let it do it there is no interruption of work with the Massey Ferguson System. Not all regeneration systems are the same.
In Europe they are already building Tier/Stage 5 Tractors. The 4700M & 5700M are Stage 5 Compliant Models. Look at the International Website for Massey Ferguson: int.masseyferguson.com/tractors.aspx
Vahrenberg Implement thanks for the quick response, I will definitely check that out, so if you order a new 4710 are you going to get a 4710M or can you still get the 4710?
Appreciate your videos - wish there was more MF content online. How hard is it to get the mower on and off of these units? They're slide under units, correct? How long have lead times been on these units?
Massey Ferguson North America has done a video on the 2326 Drive Over Deck on the GC1700E/M Series Tractors. Lead times are increasing as we are seeing HUGE Growth in the Massey Ferguson Product line...I hear Factories are at 160% Capacity and they can't keep up with demand. If you want something in 2021 better start work with your local dealer to get your name on an order or if he has inventory get it locked in.
It Prevents Starting if not in the seat and Range Shift Lever and PTO not in Neutral. If you come out of the seat while moving it will stop the Engine. The Tractor can be started and used as stationary power if conditions are met: Range Lever In Neutral, Parking Brake Set and using the rear fender PTO Control Push and hold PTO Switch for 5 Seconds and PTO will operate without Operator in the Seat.
Is there anything different under the hood between the 1835m and 1840m? Cooling capacity, turbo, etc? Or is it just tuned electronically for a few more HP?
I have not looked at every component but both engines are Direct Injection, Turbocharged and Intercooled, Electronic Engine Controlled. Most likely Fuel Flow Settings and Electronic Tuning is how manufacturers adjust engines to meet different ranges. With those higher settings come adjustment to the cooling package. I can tell you DO Not Chip or Change Engine Control Module that is Huge Fine from EPA and immediately Voids Any Warranty.
1735M was good but I'm really excited to get back the ISEKI Engine. Since Perkins division of Caterpillar bought Shibaura support has gone south. The Regeneration on this tractor is much improved and more user control is going to be much better than other systems and 50 hours it's not going to be much of deal. Just keep on driving and let it do it's thing you'll never notice if you don't watch the lights.
1835M the Power Shuttle version are same PTO HP. The eHydro is a little less. on 1840M there is little less Gross Engine HP and resulted in less PTO HP than prior model. 1800M feature an engine change back to the ISEKI power Engines.
Not sure. I know it's already happening in Europe. Was expecting Tier 4 Final in this but learned in our required service training these new 1800M are Tier 5 Compliant. Thanks for the Comments!
Have you had any issues with the loader to tractor hydraulic hoses being damaged? I noticed they stick out where they connect. Thanks for the great videos. Hopping to get my 1835m next month in North Florida. Dealer shows it in transit.
Going to depend on the Rotary Cutter input Horsepower Requirements. There are 6' Cutters that will work with the 1840M you have to match the PTO HP of the tractor and Cutter.
Roughly 2 PTO HP of that is Transmission Type. Power Shuttle is 30 PTO HP and eHydro is 27.9 PTO HP. Water Pump, Alternator, Air Conditioner Compressor on Cab Models, all take away Engine Horsepower. Plus Power Steering, Hydraulics all use Horsepower to to create their job. The more added features the more Power Loss from the Engine to PTO HP.
Understand. The power ratings don't specify which standard it is rated against, SAE J1995 or J1349. I would find it odd that they would use J1995 (gross up) since they are the OEM and are not sending an engine to someone else to assemble in a different tractor configurations. Maybe tell Massey to list the power standard being used in their brochures.
Perkins Division of Caterpillar purchased Shibaura. It was great engine but new owners limited supply and support and Massey Ferguson is growing and needed a Reliable Supplier.
On the Public Side it may look like that but on the Dealer Side it's a Huge Step Forward. Shibaura support has been very lacking. Their diagnostic tool is not very helpful. ISEKI is ready for Stage/Tier 5 who knows what or if Shibauara or other manufacturers are going to have to do to meet even more stringent Tier5 Regualations. Massey Ferguson is already there.
U.S. Tier 5 regulations haven't even been determined by the EPA yet. So how can they be ready for it? European Stage 5 is roughly equivalent to U.S. Tier 4 Final. This seems more like a move to make their machines more marketable globally than being ahead of the competition in the U.S.
Massey Ferguson is a Global Company sold in 190 different countries. They meet Stage 5 Regulations and I know in tractors the current European Tractors have more stringent regulations than the current North American Products. Right now there are some countries still at Tier 2 some at Tier 3 and most are Tier 4 and Europe has gone to Stage 5.
Do you know the ROPs width and tube sizing? Im looking at aftermarket canopies and they have size limitations. I havent been able to find this spec anywhere in literature.
Roughly 2" x 3". AGCO Parts sales the Tuff Top Canopy and our customers like it ecause they can remove when they want to or if they need to fold the ROPS and still get low clearance.
@@VahrenbergImplement Thanks! I was looking at the RhinoHide because I can flip it backwards for the backhoe operation. If the ROPS is over 43" wide though, I have to order the extended brackets.
1835E is coming soon. The E Series is our basic feature models. M are the Premium or Full Featured Models. Currently the 1735E is instock but the 1835E should start shipping soon to dealers.
Was looking to get a 1750 or 1755M cab model in September. Will the new versions be out by then and will it be a 2850 and 2855M model? What will approximate pricing be for those as well? Thanks for the video!! Appreciate you taking the time to make them.
1700M Production ended last year. 2800M are beginning to ship too. We have models schedule from now through the end of the year coming in. In fact just looked and have a 2860M scheduled to ship in the next couple of weeks. Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting.
List Price difference is about $2,500 with current sales promotions you can get less but you need to talk with your local dealer about that. If in West Central Missouri near Kansas City we are your dealer but we only sell within 60 miles of our dealership. Both Models use the FLx2407 Loader Specs: Max Lift Height 94.3"; Lift at Pivot Pin: At Max Height 1450#, at 59" Lift Height 1437#, at Break Out (Ground Level) 2288#. Lift Capacity 19.6" Forward of Pivot Pin (More True Lift Capacity Rating Like Front Edge of Bucket) at Max Height 1047#, at 59" Lift Height 1109#, at Break Out (Ground Level) 1670#
@@VahrenbergImplement thank you for your detailed response and for responding quickly. So the 1840 and 1835 have the same lift capacity? Just wondering why would someone pay more if they are not getting more power at the loader?
Biggest Reason is more Tractor Horsepower to Create More PTO HP to operate Larger Implements. Like wider Tillers and Larger Rotary Cutters & Mowers. That is number on reason we sell the 1840M over 1835M sometimes. If only need for loader lifting capacity and operation then the 1835M is lower costs choice.
That’s exactly what I’m wondering too. Is the old 1526 going to be updated to this new 1800m line since it has some premium features already but is still outdated. I keep waiting to see if that line of tractor gets updated.
Yes the 1800M series replaces the Small Chassis 1700M Series. 2800M replaces the large chassis 1700M Series. There is the 1526 which is the premium features in the 25HP Models. There is no 1825M at this time
I looked at one of these today, a very nice machine. The only thing I am not too sold on is the Tier 5, and the sticker that says "Ultra Low Sulfur Fuel Only" or whatever. That means the only fuel I will be able to find for this is limited and more expensive....
Ultra Low Sulfur Fuel is the ONLY Diesel Fuel available in USA since 2006. You can't buy anything but it in the United States. Tier 5 is the coming emission standards for all tractors have to meet. Instead of having two version why not just meet the emission requirements then you don't have to have two different variations or serial number break. Most customers don't remember their serial number when getting parts. This makes it simple they all the same.
Ag Diesel is the Same now. Only Difference is Off-Road Diesel is Dyed Red because the retailer does not collect Road Fuel Taxes. Same stuff just Red Dye for Road Tax Exempt. It's same Ultra Low Sulfur Fuel that has been used since 2014. Federal Mandate for use of ULSD. Here is Link: www.epa.gov/diesel-fuel-standards/diesel-fuel-standards-and-rulemakings#:~:text=Beginning%20in%202006%2C%20EPA%20began,low%20sulfur%20diesel%20(ULSD).
@@VahrenbergImplement OK good to know. I really did like that Massey Tractor, that thing was nice. I am still a little hesitant with the Tier 5 setup vs just having the DPF like others in it's class that are just Tier 4. How long have they had that out for do you know?
@@VahrenbergImplement Also the 1850 M seemed like it was bigger in person than I thought it would be, seems like it's a hair bigger than the Kubota L series, though that could be perhaps the way it looks just b/c of the big rear wheel and tire diameter. I would get a belly mower on mine so my rear tiers would be smaller so perhaps it wouldn't look so big after all that...Seems like you get a lot of tractor for your money
Every Tractor or for that matter vehicles with engines lose Horsepower from Engine HP. Engine HP is bare engine on test stand rated. Start adding items like water pump, alternators, air conditioning, hydraulic systems, transmission efficiency etc all require horsepower to operate. PTO horsepower is the horsepower available to run rear mounted implements like rotary cutters, tillers etc that are run off the PTO. Mid Mount PTO use horsepower too.
@@VahrenbergImplement ok good but can u still run a 6ft Bushhog on the 1840m ??/ and is the cab update?/ and can u still get the mid-mount mower??,Thank you be bless always
Depends on the PTO Horsepower Requirements of the Mower. We sell RhinoAG and they have different capacity mowers that require from 25 PTO HP to 45 PTO HP based on the diameter of material they can cut. 1835M can hand a TW16 6' Cut Mower with 1" diameter cutting capacity. Mid Mount Mower is available for the 1835M and 1840M. No updates to the cab models.
hope I am doing right, I just yesterday agreed to buy a 1835E, they have to order a backhoe for it. so approx 2 weeks to get, whats difference between the E & M? all my life I have survived with 4 different 8N tractors, over 35 years, of owning 8N tractors only have 2, but finally at a point where I want a nice tractor, & MF has always been one of my favorites, I have worked on & used many older MF, Massey Harris, Ferguson, tractors, always stayed with the 8N.s just because I knew them, but I need something with a little more oomph, & I am too tired to try to find another N to get a front end loader, and backhoe then build a no sleeve engine for max power of 30-32hp, NAW, its time to have something NICE! I have kept pieced together junk all my life. I need to do some harder work at both my farms, plus my cousins, and an Uncle that couldnt take care of due to his age & let it get out of control.
E Series is the Basic Model and M are the Full Featured (Premium) Models. 1835E will look the same as the 1735E but with the new ISEKI Premium Engine like in this video. Here is video we did on 1735E Hydro (Replaced by the 1835E): ruclips.net/video/4p_Zaw7cxlk/видео.html
There is the GC1725M we currently have. But the smallest 1800M is the 1835M right now. Never know what's in the work at AGCO they constantly working to design and make improvements.
Massey Ferguson has had 72" Mid Mount Mowers on larger tractors. Here is a Video we did on the 1735M with Cab and 72" Mid Mount Mower. ruclips.net/video/PCJ9ba0t4oc/видео.html
The 1800M is the Premium Compact and Deere 3R series are closest they have to these specs. 1700E/1800E are the Basic Economical Compact the Deere 3E Series is Similar too.
Japan, by Massey Ferguson partner ISEKI Corporation who has been building Massey Ferguson Compacts since 1991. Final Assembly is done at Edgewood (Baltimore) Maryland, Savannah, Georgia or Tacoma, Washington.
Vahrenberg Implement are they actually made in Japan? I have seen one picture of a VIN plate online for a cabbed 1835m that says made in PRC. That was discouraging to me.
@Zach Harmon. The Serial Number for the Tractor states on all the 1800M & 2800M Ihave in stock Made in Japan. I think you may be looking at the Loader ID Plate. Those can be sourced from PRC. ALO Quicke manufacturers the loaders for Massey Ferguson and has Manufacturing Facilities all around the world, because they are the Worlds Largest Loader Manufacturer. Check the Tractor Serial Number Plate right under the front of the seat. That is the Tractor ID Plate.
Be sure to make some videos and share here on RUclips we all love seeing others with their Sassy Masseys! I get jealous seeing owners getting to play in the dirt! Congrats and Welcome to the Family!
It's Stage 5 Compliant - others are going to probably have to do the same and the Normal DPF Cycle is estimated at 50 Hours. Passive Cleaning can happen with normal operation. Regen is only needed when filter is at 80% capacity and the best thing is to keep on working and let it do it's thing. But we are back to a Premium ISEKI Engine and that is very good and to have manufacturer support.
No the M Series is Larger Chassis than the 1825E/1735E/1740E. The E Series Models is the same Chassis Size. We released a Video on the New 1825E: ruclips.net/video/Sq68NexGXTA/видео.html
The Cab is the same as the 1700M Series, no changes where made to the cab. They are separating the two chassis sizes of premium compacts into the 1800M for the small chassis (1835M & 1840M) and the 2800M (2850M, 2855M & 2860M) for the large chassis. We will be doing a review for sure as soon as we receive inventory.
I bought an 1835M cab tractor in September of 21. I have 135 hours on it so far. I use it for feeding big bales both 1000# round bales and 1200# big square bales. I have fluid filled tires and it has no problems handling the bales. We used to be a full operational farm and ranch. I still have 10 Masseys from 42 hp to 80 hp. I am amazed at this tractor. It is very quick for handling bales and pushing snow. This is my first cab tractor, and I don't think I can ever go back to an open station. This tractor has renewed my love of farming. I have spent about 30,000 hours on a tractor in my life. This is not just a hobby tractor, this is a small farm capable tractor. This morning my oldest son and I were unloading the load of hay from the trailer. It was only single high as we are a local haul. I had all of my side done and half of my sons side. He was on the 80 HP tractor, with a standard transmission. I was able to unload 3 bales to his 1 bale.
Great Information...You're exactly correct these tractors may be smaller in size but that one of the Biggest Benefits. More nimble and maneuverable than big tractors.
Just received my 1825 today!
Perfect for my property use!
We received an 1825E yesterday to and collected video footage but we edited and published this one first. Stay tuned it's coming soon. Share some videos of your new tractor. We love watching owners gets to use their tractors. Thanks for the comments.
Thanks for the great review Doug, outstanding as usual! I really love my 1740M eHydro, but I believe if I was ever going to upgrade, I would wait for the 2850M or 2855M. It seems like with the new engine on the 1800 series in comparison to the 1700 series (Shibaura), you lose a little horsepower both at the engine and PTO, that's a little disappointing, but hopefully as the manufacturer refines and continues to engineer the engine they will gain that back. The one thing that I think Massey Ferguson should do, particularly with the premium series compact tractor, is go ahead and put the third function on, a set of remotes, and the soft drive for that matter. In my opinion, when a consumer is buying a premium tractor, in most cases, they are willing to pay a little more for factory installed options rather than after the fact which has a tendency to cost even more.
I agree with the thought on the additional options but not everyone wants those added features which will raise the price of the tractor. I personally like them as options and customer could customize or dealer install to customer needs. We can order with a set of dealer installed remotes we've only added remotes to one tractor so understand why they don't add them, most customer don't use them but be cool to have to the option to have factory installed remote option. As you well know the compact tractor business is very price sensitive and adding too many options might price potential customers out of the market. Maybe we could have two version like the cab models a standard and deluxe version??? That is an idea. I will share some of these to Massey Ferguson. Good Stuff! THanks for the comments!
They still need to offer the mechanical self leaving loader as a option in the compact premium series
I keep asking for that Option in North America. With many novice users it would make great safety sense too. I know in Australia that is the only way they can have loaders. Thanks for commenting and watching!
I have a 1835m shuttle shift. It came with a belly mower that works fine. I just purchased a rear mount mower but cant get the rear pto lever to move to engage it. How do i get it to move?
I would check where the Lever connects below the cab/platform where it goes into the housing and make sure it can turn may be rusted or locked up.
Those are some nice tractors! Nice presentation. Thanks!
Thanks for watching, We super excited with the new models. Lots of great new features. Thanks for commenting too!
Do they have the float option on loader like the 1735e?
the Current Massey Ferguson Tractors & Loaders have Float Position on the loader
Tier 5 oh my but I can’t wait to see some cab versions thanks for the video very informative.
We have cab models on order and hopefully get them soon. Thanks for watching!
You know what is really bad, I'm 61yrs, I remember our massey Ferguson back in my school days, i was already like 10yrs old, we had a massey Ferguson 35, it had a 2 piece frame, late 60s,early 70s,and I think it was already about 10yrs old, and I have been watching RUclips varhanberg tractors and, I miss my tractor bad, that tractor would be 60,70 yrs old or older by now, I've discovered a new possible money system for income, who knows, I might find some money in the future, so I can buy my new loyal best friend and a new member to my family, and having a new tractor or new toy ,is all a state of mind, the emotional price we all put on our equipment, just my opinion, you can't put the lottery on that, it's like the work horse of the family, respect it like a new born baby, monthly, weekly, daily, hourly maintenance, 24/7 ,just like raising a family , just remember, the most important thing in life, GOD IS ON THE THRONE, GOD IS IN CONTROL, GOD HAS THE FINAL SAY, GOD IS ALWAYS TALKING TO US,God is always by our side, God will decide when you need what ever you need something, wayneeden95@gmail.com
Exactly. He is in complete control of our lives. But love your comments on Massey Ferguson. May God Bless You too and your dreams come true. We love our Massey Fergusons too!
The 1835m is my next tractor.
IT's an awesome model. Hard to keep in stock selling faster than we can get them. But visit your local dealer and Pre-Book one and Lock In Pricing and Promotions.
Well, Hello Duog, I learned afterwards if you write your comment text over 3 comments, the way this RUclips channel stuff is setup, they won't accept 4 message comments, so I'm reentering my last big text comment, yesterday I was researching and browsing different setups about "" lawnmowers,,,,,well considering all the details, but everything still depends a whole hell of a lot on good maintenance, anything can last a lot of years, well, it finally came to me, and I finally figured it out, that even though the arrangement of massey Ferguson has the American body style, the main body style and along with the Japanese motor from agco, I'm not crazy about Japanese motors, but that's mostly besides the point, for as much as I have watched your videos channel, and why I am sold on massey Ferguson, even though it has a Japanese motors, well here's the biggest reason, the hp motors go well above 30hp, and the other reason is, I really like the arrangement of the body style design, I wouldn't always need the front end loader, I wouldn't always have my front end loader on it all the time, but for the idea plus I get a midmount belly mower on your 1700, 1800 series, I'm just in the mood for a bigger class of muscle, and a super wide 72" 6ft path ,,that's got me hooked like pulling in a big fish, and for any reason I don't find reasonable customer service up here in Indiana, I will not hesitate to try and make the attempt to buy one off of you, people have been known to do crazier things, you know how it goes,,everyone is different, what I did was, I was giving you a big plug on another lawnmower video channel, I know money has a lot to say in all these matters,,but everyone has to do what ever they can, I like the massey Ferguson body style,,and that's close enough for me, sometimes engineering will make the total difference, and now suddenly I have had the weirdest view point of the tractor in general, GOD created man , then man created the tractor, now even though I have said that I think, massey Ferguson rides like a Cadillac and is built like a tank, I'm also gonna put another humours phrase on the massey Ferguson is GOD'S WORK HORSE , I hope that idea has a nice ring to it, it's a member of the family keep the maintenance up, gotta them in good health as well, I will shop up here in Indiana for what ever it's worth, time will tell, later, wayneeden95@gmail.com
Any word on an update for the aging 1526 like integrated loader valve, better seating etc?
I keep asking. 1526 is an awesome model. My Family actually personally owns one we take care of our property with. I've requested some up dates to that model. Biggest problem is there is only one model in that series and might make the costs or increase in price and make that model uncompetitive priced. Hate to lose the price point of the 1526. But maybe they can find a way to update in the future.
How much can each tractor lift with the loader?
FL.2611 Loader Specs: Lift Height 100", Lift Capacity at Pivot Pin: @ Max Lift Height of 100" is 1870#, at 59" Lift height 2220#, Breakout Force at Ground Level 2950#. Lift Capacity at 19.6" Forward of the Pivot Pin (Approximate Front Edge of Bucket: At Max Lift Height @ 100" is1380#, at 59" Lift Height is 1750# and Breakout Force at Ground Level is 2170#.
I shopped tractors for months in early 2019. The lack of a DPF was a MAJOR contributing factor in my decision to buy a 1740M. I'm not sure I would make the same decision now with the 1800M series.
Well Stage/Tier 5 Emissions is coming and who knows what every manufacturer is going to have to do to meet the new more stringent regulations. Massey Ferguson with the ISEKI engine is already there. Every engine has emissions components, EGR, DOC, DPF or DEF Systems to meet the current Tier 4 and will be even more for tier 5. The user control and longer time between regens is much simpler system and less components than prior models. 50 Hours under normal conditions for most customers is a one or twice a year regen. And if you let it do it there is no interruption of work with the Massey Ferguson System. Not all regeneration systems are the same.
Vahrenberg Implement do you know when the larger tractors (47/57/6700 series) will change over to the Tier 5 emissions??
In Europe they are already building Tier/Stage 5 Tractors. The 4700M & 5700M are Stage 5 Compliant Models. Look at the International Website for Massey Ferguson: int.masseyferguson.com/tractors.aspx
There seems to be some confusion about the terms Tier/Stage. Europe uses Stages. The US uses Tiers. The two are not interchangeable.
Vahrenberg Implement thanks for the quick response, I will definitely check that out, so if you order a new 4710 are you going to get a 4710M or can you still get the 4710?
Can we see the headlights in action? Thanks!
I do not have any video in the dark on these models to show lighting. Maybe you could arrange a dealer visit to see them at night. Thanks
Very versatile, power shuttle version should be awesome.
They available in either eHYDRO or Power Shuttle. There is a really good customer video he did on the 1835M Power Shuttle on RUclips.
Appreciate your videos - wish there was more MF content online. How hard is it to get the mower on and off of these units? They're slide under units, correct? How long have lead times been on these units?
Massey Ferguson North America has done a video on the 2326 Drive Over Deck on the GC1700E/M Series Tractors. Lead times are increasing as we are seeing HUGE Growth in the Massey Ferguson Product line...I hear Factories are at 160% Capacity and they can't keep up with demand. If you want something in 2021 better start work with your local dealer to get your name on an order or if he has inventory get it locked in.
How does the seat safety switch operate? Does it prevent starting or from just moving?
It Prevents Starting if not in the seat and Range Shift Lever and PTO not in Neutral. If you come out of the seat while moving it will stop the Engine. The Tractor can be started and used as stationary power if conditions are met: Range Lever In Neutral, Parking Brake Set and using the rear fender PTO Control Push and hold PTO Switch for 5 Seconds and PTO will operate without Operator in the Seat.
How much does the eHydro add to the price vs the power shuttle. You have some great videos...keep up the good work!
eHydro is roughly $600 More than PowerShuttle Models
Is there anything different under the hood between the 1835m and 1840m? Cooling capacity, turbo, etc? Or is it just tuned electronically for a few more HP?
I have not looked at every component but both engines are Direct Injection, Turbocharged and Intercooled, Electronic Engine Controlled. Most likely Fuel Flow Settings and Electronic Tuning is how manufacturers adjust engines to meet different ranges. With those higher settings come adjustment to the cooling package. I can tell you DO Not Chip or Change Engine Control Module that is Huge Fine from EPA and immediately Voids Any Warranty.
I am glad I bought my 1735m this year , don’t want regen!
1735M was good but I'm really excited to get back the ISEKI Engine. Since Perkins division of Caterpillar bought Shibaura support has gone south. The Regeneration on this tractor is much improved and more user control is going to be much better than other systems and 50 hours it's not going to be much of deal. Just keep on driving and let it do it's thing you'll never notice if you don't watch the lights.
why is the rear PTO HP lower than previous models with the same engine HP? is it the new emissions?
1835M the Power Shuttle version are same PTO HP. The eHydro is a little less. on 1840M there is little less Gross Engine HP and resulted in less PTO HP than prior model. 1800M feature an engine change back to the ISEKI power Engines.
Excellent video as usual. How long before we can expect to see the tier 5 emissions on other Massey Ferguson models?
Not sure. I know it's already happening in Europe. Was expecting Tier 4 Final in this but learned in our required service training these new 1800M are Tier 5 Compliant. Thanks for the Comments!
How much does the 1840 M weight with the loader and bucket I think the base weight of the tractor it self is around 3472 pounds
Hydro Platform Tractor Only is 3527# loader weight is 800# to 1000# depends on features Options and Bucket or Implement being used
Nice tractor. I still love my 1742. I hope you went back and turned the flashers off! :)
We did. We moved them to the Front Row so the Word can see them as they travel up and down MO 13 Highway. Thanks for reminding us thou!
Have you had any issues with the loader to tractor hydraulic hoses being damaged? I noticed they stick out where they connect. Thanks for the great videos. Hopping to get my 1835m next month in North Florida. Dealer shows it in transit.
Have not had any issues with the Loader Hoses.
Is the sharp steering angle new or is it carry over?
That Bevel Gear Pinion Front Axle has been an ISEKI Powertrain feature for many of the generation and provides tighter turning angle.
Also I forgot to ask, will the 1840 handle a 6ft bushog?
Going to depend on the Rotary Cutter input Horsepower Requirements. There are 6' Cutters that will work with the 1840M you have to match the PTO HP of the tractor and Cutter.
So where is all the PTO power being eaten up? 1840 has less than 30hp at the PTO??
Roughly 2 PTO HP of that is Transmission Type. Power Shuttle is 30 PTO HP and eHydro is 27.9 PTO HP. Water Pump, Alternator, Air Conditioner Compressor on Cab Models, all take away Engine Horsepower. Plus Power Steering, Hydraulics all use Horsepower to to create their job. The more added features the more Power Loss from the Engine to PTO HP.
Understand. The power ratings don't specify which standard it is rated against, SAE J1995 or J1349. I would find it odd that they would use J1995 (gross up) since they are the OEM and are not sending an engine to someone else to assemble in a different tractor configurations. Maybe tell Massey to list the power standard being used in their brochures.
Where did the Shibaura go? I have a 2705e and it is awesome. Disappointed ☹️. Was gonna get a 1740m.
Perkins Division of Caterpillar purchased Shibaura. It was great engine but new owners limited supply and support and Massey Ferguson is growing and needed a Reliable Supplier.
It's a shame they couldn't keep the Shibaura. They took a major step backwards with the Iseki and its DPF.
On the Public Side it may look like that but on the Dealer Side it's a Huge Step Forward. Shibaura support has been very lacking. Their diagnostic tool is not very helpful. ISEKI is ready for Stage/Tier 5 who knows what or if Shibauara or other manufacturers are going to have to do to meet even more stringent Tier5 Regualations. Massey Ferguson is already there.
U.S. Tier 5 regulations haven't even been determined by the EPA yet. So how can they be ready for it? European Stage 5 is roughly equivalent to U.S. Tier 4 Final. This seems more like a move to make their machines more marketable globally than being ahead of the competition in the U.S.
Massey Ferguson is a Global Company sold in 190 different countries. They meet Stage 5 Regulations and I know in tractors the current European Tractors have more stringent regulations than the current North American Products. Right now there are some countries still at Tier 2 some at Tier 3 and most are Tier 4 and Europe has gone to Stage 5.
Do you have to use DEF in this tractor
DEF in not used in Massey Ferguson below 75 engine HP.
Does the backhoe mount easily on this?
CB75 is compatible just like the 1700 Premium and 1700M Series. Nothing changes in Backhoe Mounting.
Do you know the ROPs width and tube sizing? Im looking at aftermarket canopies and they have size limitations. I havent been able to find this spec anywhere in literature.
Roughly 2" x 3". AGCO Parts sales the Tuff Top Canopy and our customers like it ecause they can remove when they want to or if they need to fold the ROPS and still get low clearance.
@@VahrenbergImplement Thanks! I was looking at the RhinoHide because I can flip it backwards for the backhoe operation. If the ROPS is over 43" wide though, I have to order the extended brackets.
It is 46" Wide Outside to Outside Dimensions.
@@VahrenbergImplement thanks!
How does the 1835E rate? Everything i see is on the M
1835E is coming soon. The E Series is our basic feature models. M are the Premium or Full Featured Models. Currently the 1735E is instock but the 1835E should start shipping soon to dealers.
can you put a mid mount belly mower on these?
Yes the 1835M & 1840M can add 72" Mid Mount Mower
Was looking to get a 1750 or 1755M cab model in September. Will the new versions be out by then and will it be a 2850 and 2855M model? What will approximate pricing be for those as well? Thanks for the video!! Appreciate you taking the time to make them.
1700M Production ended last year. 2800M are beginning to ship too. We have models schedule from now through the end of the year coming in. In fact just looked and have a 2860M scheduled to ship in the next couple of weeks. Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting.
What is the price difference between a 1835 and 1840 model? Also, what is the loader lift capacity on both?
List Price difference is about $2,500 with current sales promotions you can get less but you need to talk with your local dealer about that. If in West Central Missouri near Kansas City we are your dealer but we only sell within 60 miles of our dealership. Both Models use the FLx2407 Loader Specs: Max Lift Height 94.3"; Lift at Pivot Pin: At Max Height 1450#, at 59" Lift Height 1437#, at Break Out (Ground Level) 2288#. Lift Capacity 19.6" Forward of Pivot Pin (More True Lift Capacity Rating Like Front Edge of Bucket) at Max Height 1047#, at 59" Lift Height 1109#, at Break Out (Ground Level) 1670#
@@VahrenbergImplement thank you for your detailed response and for responding quickly. So the 1840 and 1835 have the same lift capacity? Just wondering why would someone pay more if they are not getting more power at the loader?
Biggest Reason is more Tractor Horsepower to Create More PTO HP to operate Larger Implements. Like wider Tillers and Larger Rotary Cutters & Mowers. That is number on reason we sell the 1840M over 1835M sometimes. If only need for loader lifting capacity and operation then the 1835M is lower costs choice.
Do these replace the 1735M and 1740M? The 1825E looks good, will there be an 1825M? Another great, informative, video!
That’s exactly what I’m wondering too. Is the old 1526 going to be updated to this new 1800m line since it has some premium features already but is still outdated. I keep waiting to see if that line of tractor gets updated.
Yes the 1800M series replaces the Small Chassis 1700M Series. 2800M replaces the large chassis 1700M Series. There is the 1526 which is the premium features in the 25HP Models. There is no 1825M at this time
I looked at one of these today, a very nice machine. The only thing I am not too sold on is the Tier 5, and the sticker that says "Ultra Low Sulfur Fuel Only" or whatever. That means the only fuel I will be able to find for this is limited and more expensive....
Ultra Low Sulfur Fuel is the ONLY Diesel Fuel available in USA since 2006. You can't buy anything but it in the United States. Tier 5 is the coming emission standards for all tractors have to meet. Instead of having two version why not just meet the emission requirements then you don't have to have two different variations or serial number break. Most customers don't remember their serial number when getting parts. This makes it simple they all the same.
@@VahrenbergImplement Are you sure about that? What about running it on ag diesel or number two fuel oil..??
Ag Diesel is the Same now. Only Difference is Off-Road Diesel is Dyed Red because the retailer does not collect Road Fuel Taxes. Same stuff just Red Dye for Road Tax Exempt. It's same Ultra Low Sulfur Fuel that has been used since 2014. Federal Mandate for use of ULSD. Here is Link: www.epa.gov/diesel-fuel-standards/diesel-fuel-standards-and-rulemakings#:~:text=Beginning%20in%202006%2C%20EPA%20began,low%20sulfur%20diesel%20(ULSD).
@@VahrenbergImplement OK good to know. I really did like that Massey Tractor, that thing was nice. I am still a little hesitant with the Tier 5 setup vs just having the DPF like others in it's class that are just Tier 4. How long have they had that out for do you know?
@@VahrenbergImplement Also the 1850 M seemed like it was bigger in person than I thought it would be, seems like it's a hair bigger than the Kubota L series, though that could be perhaps the way it looks just b/c of the big rear wheel and tire diameter. I would get a belly mower on mine so my rear tiers would be smaller so perhaps it wouldn't look so big after all that...Seems like you get a lot of tractor for your money
Nice tractor and video, But why did both Tractors lose PTO Hp ? And why did the 40 hp go down to 39 ??// and what about the mid-mount mower??
Every Tractor or for that matter vehicles with engines lose Horsepower from Engine HP. Engine HP is bare engine on test stand rated. Start adding items like water pump, alternators, air conditioning, hydraulic systems, transmission efficiency etc all require horsepower to operate. PTO horsepower is the horsepower available to run rear mounted implements like rotary cutters, tillers etc that are run off the PTO. Mid Mount PTO use horsepower too.
@@VahrenbergImplement ok good but can u still run a 6ft Bushhog on the 1840m ??/ and is the cab update?/ and can u still get the mid-mount mower??,Thank you be bless always
Depends on the PTO Horsepower Requirements of the Mower. We sell RhinoAG and they have different capacity mowers that require from 25 PTO HP to 45 PTO HP based on the diameter of material they can cut. 1835M can hand a TW16 6' Cut Mower with 1" diameter cutting capacity.
Mid Mount Mower is available for the 1835M and 1840M.
No updates to the cab models.
@@VahrenbergImplement Thank you
@@VahrenbergImplement Ha do u have the 1840m with a cab to Review yet?
hope I am doing right, I just yesterday agreed to buy a 1835E, they have to order a backhoe for it. so approx 2 weeks to get, whats difference between the E & M?
all my life I have survived with 4 different 8N tractors, over 35 years, of owning 8N tractors only have 2, but finally at a point where I want a nice tractor, & MF has always been one of my favorites, I have worked on & used many older MF, Massey Harris, Ferguson, tractors, always stayed with the 8N.s just because I knew them, but I need something with a little more oomph, & I am too tired to try to find another N to get a front end loader, and backhoe then build a no sleeve engine for max power of 30-32hp, NAW, its time to have something NICE! I have kept pieced together junk all my life.
I need to do some harder work at both my farms, plus my cousins, and an Uncle that couldnt take care of due to his age & let it get out of control.
E Series is the Basic Model and M are the Full Featured (Premium) Models. 1835E will look the same as the 1735E but with the new ISEKI Premium Engine like in this video. Here is video we did on 1735E Hydro (Replaced by the 1835E): ruclips.net/video/4p_Zaw7cxlk/видео.html
Great video. Is the 1735M gone then? Replaced by 1835?
1735M is replaced by the 1835M. 1740M is replaced by the 1840M. Thanks for watching!
Is there a new 1725m coming anytime soon.
There is the GC1725M we currently have. But the smallest 1800M is the 1835M right now. Never know what's in the work at AGCO they constantly working to design and make improvements.
Belly mowers available?
The 1705 Mid Mount Mower will fit the 1835M or 1840M just like the 1700M Series did. Thanks for watching!
Do y'all offer the 72" like John Deere on the belly mower or just the 60"?
Massey Ferguson has had 72" Mid Mount Mowers on larger tractors. Here is a Video we did on the 1735M with Cab and 72" Mid Mount Mower. ruclips.net/video/PCJ9ba0t4oc/видео.html
What is a good comparison to a John Deere 2 and 3 family series tractors?
The 1800M is the Premium Compact and Deere 3R series are closest they have to these specs. 1700E/1800E are the Basic Economical Compact the Deere 3E Series is Similar too.
Where r they built??
Japan, by Massey Ferguson partner ISEKI Corporation who has been building Massey Ferguson Compacts since 1991. Final Assembly is done at Edgewood (Baltimore) Maryland, Savannah, Georgia or Tacoma, Washington.
Vahrenberg Implement are they actually made in Japan? I have seen one picture of a VIN plate online for a cabbed 1835m that says made in PRC. That was discouraging to me.
Is the FL 2611 loader maybe made in PRC? That may have been what i saw.
@Zach Harmon. The Serial Number for the Tractor states on all the 1800M & 2800M Ihave in stock Made in Japan. I think you may be looking at the Loader ID Plate. Those can be sourced from PRC. ALO Quicke manufacturers the loaders for Massey Ferguson and has Manufacturing Facilities all around the world, because they are the Worlds Largest Loader Manufacturer. Check the Tractor Serial Number Plate right under the front of the seat. That is the Tractor ID Plate.
Vahrenberg Implement thank you for clarifying that for me!
how fast at maximum speed?
Depends on Tire Type & Size and Transmission but they push 16 to 18mph range.
Vahrenberg Implement thanks, I will have mine this week!!! I really like your videos
Be sure to make some videos and share here on RUclips we all love seeing others with their Sassy Masseys! I get jealous seeing owners getting to play in the dirt! Congrats and Welcome to the Family!
Wow, that is so disappointing about the DPF. The main reason I was looking at Masseys was to avoid that. Will the 1700M series still be available?
It's Stage 5 Compliant - others are going to probably have to do the same and the Normal DPF Cycle is estimated at 50 Hours. Passive Cleaning can happen with normal operation. Regen is only needed when filter is at 80% capacity and the best thing is to keep on working and let it do it's thing. But we are back to a Premium ISEKI Engine and that is very good and to have manufacturer support.
So is this what will replace the 1760m cab ?
2860M will replace the 1760M. They coming soon too!
Vahrenberg Implement still gonna be doc engines or dpf models ?
It will be ISEKI 2.43L with EGR, DOC & DPF just like this system shown and the 50 Hours Regeneration with Normal Operation.
Is the 1825 the same size frame?
No the M Series is Larger Chassis than the 1825E/1735E/1740E. The E Series Models is the same Chassis Size. We released a Video on the New 1825E: ruclips.net/video/Sq68NexGXTA/видео.html
sweet tractor. too bad MF website is awful.
Understand. We created an information resource that may help: vitractorworld.proboards.com/
Did you say 2800 series?
2800M is going ot be the new Larger HP Compacts: 2850M, 2855M & 2860M.
Please do a review when you get one. I hope the cabs are bigger than the 1700m.
The Cab is the same as the 1700M Series, no changes where made to the cab. They are separating the two chassis sizes of premium compacts into the 1800M for the small chassis (1835M & 1840M) and the 2800M (2850M, 2855M & 2860M) for the large chassis. We will be doing a review for sure as soon as we receive inventory.
I like the compact on steroids chassis. 💪
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