PAUL GREYRAT Character Analysis (No Post-Anime Spoilers)
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
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Paul Greyrat and his relationship with Rudeus is one of the most interesting things in Mushoku Tensei (Jobless Reincarnation) and now the Mushoku Tensei anime has started to show some of the best Paul and Rudeus scenes from the light novels. With the reunion of Paul and Rudy in Mushoku Tensei episode 16 Family Squabble, we see a fight between Rudeus and Paul based on both characters failing to understand each other's situation. But what can we say about Paul Greyrat as a character in the anime so far? This video is a character analysis of Paul Greyrat up to the events of episode 16, and while it does contain some minor information from the Light novels and web novel, it has no spoilers for later plot points, storylines or characters. How did Paul cheating on Zenith with Lilia affect how we and Rudeus see him? Is Paul Greyrat a good father? Has Paul changed since the teleportation incident?
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I like Paul as a character. He's portrayed as an actual parent who makes actual parenting mistakes. You don't see a whole lot of that in anime. Usually if a parent is flawed in anime it's in some over the top way.
I mean he’s literally a rapist I feel like that’s pretty over-the-top. Also I’d say his terrible parenting is also pretty over-the-top at least for Ruddy he seems to have done a better job with his other kids
@@henryp9671 I think what he means by that is in his parenting aspect rather than his overall character, since even him raping lillia was a mistake he made due to him being tunnel visioned during the time he was rebelling where he just want to make a mess of every belongings his seniors and nobles in the school had and lillia was part of it.
@@slippy47 I mean the parenting is arguable he was still physically abusive at several points but it’s not like he didn’t ever try our love his children so I guess that’s not too over-the-top. As for the rape thing that justification manages to make it so much worse as instead of just being a rapist he’s a rapist who raped someone with the intent of getting revenge on a third-party that’s some seriously fucked up shit
@@henryp9671 I dont blame him for poor parenting when it comes to Rud because Rudy isnt average or normal kid also Paul probably had his hopes high because Rudy is the same kid who was ready to take responsibility of Sylphie's education which is no joke.
@@henryp9671 wait! I thought that she only said it to protect herself.
Paul is arguably the second best written character in the show
I'd agree with that - especially if you consider his impact versus how many scenes he's actually in.
@@NatalieXHunter Followed by Ruijerd and Eris
I never hated Paul. I certainly don't think he is trash but he was wrong here. Regardless of why he treated a Rudy the way he did, he did it. His child was teleported to a dangerous faraway continent and his first response was deprioritize Rudy's emotional well-being and attack him. Paul didn't pause to think of Rudy's side when the bullying incident happened. Rudy had to call Paul out on it. I guess you could say he did listen to Rudy this time but did he truly listen or did he just hear him? Rudy embellished the story which Paul should've immediately known was being done. If everything was peaches and cream, Rudy would've made it to Millis long ago. Rudy bringing up Paul's womanizing was Rudy lashing out and not necessarily indicative of how Rudy views Paul. I think Rudy loves and respects Paul. He even mentions how he respects him. We know that Rudy is older mentally but no one else does. They know that he was rather self sufficient and clever but they still see him as a child. Honestly he is. He needs the connections that are formed in childhood. It's kind of the whole point of reincarnation. Paul did kind of do him a disservice by sending him away with no contact at 7 years old. A lot of bonding occurs during those years and he was not present for it.
I believe that the situation with the Funi subs regarding his first words to Rudy in the table suggests that he sarcastically saying that he is amazed that Rudy is doing well while in Muse subs, it was suggested instead that Paul is at least really glad that Rudy survived the incident before their emotional outbursts kinda twisted people's impressions about Paul's character in a more negative light especially that it shows that Paul genuinely cared Rudy's well-being but his joy was getting overshadowed by what it seems to be like Rudy just undermining the incident like it's not a big deal..
@@quaggyboy4277 I watched on Hulu. I wonder which version I got.
@@hawhite2000 wait mushoku is on Hulu??!
@@susux9558 Yep
Sending him away was a good thing, which everyone involved recognize sooner or later. Though forbidding to send letters to them was a bit too much.
Its in episodes like this that the Twitter stupidity syndrome is truly highlighted.
As always, great video Nat.
Yeah, I really wasn't expecting anyone to especially complain about this episode, but I guess even after all this time I give people on Twitter too much faith!
You only realize what you lost after loosing it. Paul couldn't proberly cherish what he had before he damaged it with his own hands.
Its kinda funny how many viewers see someone cheating and being a bad father as a worse person than a literal killer (rujierd)
Bc we know not everyone rujierd killed Was a criminal, be it before or after his curse. They can easily judge these characters based on rules of the Fantasy world but cant do that with Paul.
Bc if we are honest, Paul is still a decent guy compared with many other nobles in asura (or even his own brother)
@@Dan-Ky-Kang bru rujierd literaly killed out of his free will. He made the choice when he killed people that cant fight him. What kind of bs is that.
I can also say Paul Was full of despair and drunk, without that he would have reacted different.
@@Dan-Ky-Kang being drunk can literaly remove choice. That's what being drunk does. You can say drinking Was a choice yeah but thats it
Episode 16 is the classic lost in translation argument. People not knowing truly how to communicate with each other.
This was highlighted in the early episodes as the communication between Paul and Rudy was always more of bro conversation rather than a fother and son talk.
There are times when fathers and sons have trouble saying what needs to be said because they don't want to lose the status they have in the eyes of the other. Leading to assumptions about the other and never really understanding each other's feelings.
Truly, both are correct and wrong at the same time but seriously this is how they established their relationship and in real life is almost insurmountable to recover from.
The whole series is basically lost in translation moments lol
@@rajvirmalhans2073 LMAO YEAH
@Spell Check Paul has onee san fetish lol
It's kind of inevitable that Rudy and Paul can't have a natural father-son dynamic, especially on Rudy's side; in his inner monologue, Rudy only ever refers to his isekai-parents by their first names, so it's clear that he can only ever see them as nice older people that take care of them, instead of a mother and father.
I would also mention the manner in which Paul sent Rudy away. Knocking him unconscious and chucking him in a wagon with a letter saying 'don't come back for five years' was a pretty scummy move.
It was scummy, but you can hardly fault him for being in a medieval-style reality where people become adults at 15 and any notion of pedagogy or child rights is yet to be invented.
It was just "tough love" and he likely thought that Rudeus would just spin him around in a conversation and talk him into a compromise that would screw up his intention of separating the two children so they could grow up on their own.
I wouldn't say scummy, just extreme. His mom had no problems with what happened either
That was for his own good because Rudy would've been over attached to Sylphie (which we clearly know would be the case considering Rudy's fucked up monologues)
Also Rudy wanted to take responsibility for Sylphie's education, if Rudy cant earn money live like a man then there's no point for Paul to pay for Sylphie's education as well and sending her along with him.
@@Isaac-eh6uu did you not experience some kind of tough love when you are ten? Like pushing you into deep water to learn to swim, whooping you when you're getting too annoying, making decision for you because you're too young... That kind of tough love? XD
The fight between him and Rudy Was legitimately was the most saddest Realistic Anime Fight i ever seen between a father and son you can see why both think they’re in the right and the others in the wrong and how the damage to relationship has done the author should be praise in writing such a believable situation PS the whole pregnant women can’t have sex things can be two things one could be the author view on sex with pregnant women Or two it could be back in real mid evil times people legitimate thought how many sex with a pregnant woman could damage the baby.
Yeah, I think it's mostly a medieval thing but since Rudy thinks it too it could also be something the author thinks, or Rudeus as a character thinks because he doesn't really know much about sex and apparently some people in Japan do believe that.
Paul's story is kinda sad, he bickered alot with his dad and ran away from home, his dad later died regretting what he did, Paul finds a party, fell in love, married, had rudy, and life was peaceful for 10 years, and then he (spoiler)
Searched for zenith for a decade, and at the end he sacrificed himself to save his son
He may not have lived as a great man, but I feel like he died as one. Absolutely loved his arc.
This entire situation just remind me when both me and my father argued over his sick mother. Long story short, when she died we argued then made up and our relationship is now forever neutral.
@@Isaac-eh6uu no
the character complexities is why I really enjoy this anime.
Paul is lacking in lots of aspects. But he has always tried to overcome them. I really like Paul, and I feel for him in the latest episode of the anime. Not even talking about the Web Novel. Paul is such a great character.
Paul's infidelity is a extremely human fault for a character to have that's not played off for laughs and I respect that. I enjoy him as he's a passionate character that has his faults and I like how grounded of a personality it is considering the setting.
Thank you for making this video. There's so much about Paul that he essentially is one of Mushoku's most complex characters. I love that despite his flaws, he is still able to make us cry, make us feel, and make is laugh. He's such a good character
Paul always felt to me a lot more real that many other characters from these types of anime. Love his development over the arcs and I'm excited to see what Magonote does with him next.
Thinking about it realistically, that port town was perhaps the only time Rudy could have seen Paul's messages. Rudy was transported the literal farthest point away from the incident, any news from the Feiorra region would take the longest to reach him. 2nd, Paul didnt set up the search organization the instant offer and probably would have taken a few months to set up to get info out, which is fast as a person can walk. Lastly, Rudy was stuck in the beast village until recently waiting months for the rains to let up. For the first few months Rudy couldnt get the information because it wouldnt have reached him yet so far from the incident. and Rudy couldnt see any info for the last few months because he was isolated in the Beast village. The only realistic time to actually get the messages and info was to go to that Port town's guild but he never went due all the incidents, Hitogami getting him his foresight, thinking about Reuijid, and the smugglers. But, the gang seemed to have stayed a few weeks in the town since he mastered his eyes. Rudy didnt have a year and a half to get info and learn about the incident and visit a guild while trying to survive, he had only a few days to weeks realistically obtain the info. Also, theres te idea that maybe they didnt talk to people or hang around with them because they took on the name Dead End, an ominous name so no one wanted to be around them and/or having Reuijid in the party where people avoid the Superd or the gang avoid people to prevent problem if they learned about Reuijid. And, maybe Rudy said Sylphies name because she was that was the most vulnerable to him since Zenith and the maid were previous adventurers and could take care of themselves. Its like yelling out your pets name name when you realized a disaster at home happened.
The teleportation incident showed the admirable side of paul. In a way, by basically being a single dad, he became a good father but also became a broken man. Furthermore, in light light novels, especially when they were about to save zenith from the time Rudeus received the letter up until the fight with the hydra paul was full of self-loathing. This actually made me sad, knowing that he did try his best, yet he felt as if it was not enough.
Great MT episode, great Natalie analysis.. :)
I really like this reunion of Paul and Rudy, both had faults and good arguments on their side, and it is so typical for them to misunderstand each other basically in the same way.
My one thing about the Sylphie comment though.. While this also is a misunderstanding, Rudy thought his mom was safe, I don't think that Paul would have any standing to be angry over it anyhow.
The reason: the way he sent Rudy off to Eris. It was done by force, and communication was cut between them by design - Paul's design.
We know that Rudy took it well, but Paul only had faith to go on for that to be the case. Zenith obviously hadn't stopped this either, so if Rudy had taken great issue with this and started prioritizing his other relationships ahead of his family, then the fault of that would lie with Paul.
I still agree that it was a good decision to send Rudy off, but its execution left some glaring flaws.
The message Paul left Rudy in adventuring guilds has the same problem. One way of reading it shows how much trust he puts in Rudy. Another way of reading it could easily indicate that he doesn't care that much about Rudy, only about the female (/real) members of his family.
To me this confrontation was mostly about Paul taking his feelings of guilt and frustration, over not being able to find his family, and transferring them onto Rudy. Up to this point he's obviously dealt with how he's feeling by getting drunk and hoping that Rudy was out there somewhere doing what he hadn't been able to accomplish, finding his family. So when Rudy shows up and dashes Paul's hopes he also became a convenient target for him with the way he told his story. Making it sound like he was off doing nothing particularly important while there was an emergency going on made it oh so easy for Paul to take all the anger he'd been feeling toward himself and direct it onto Rudy instead.
I also think Paul has no business getting upset about Rudy asking about Sylphie instead of his mom when he never even once tells Rudy, his own son, that he's happy to see him again, or even that he's glad he's alive.
Not exactly , Paul literally thought Rudy was dead . It was a combination of really bad communication and lack of maturity from both . Like even if Rudy was the I my one who got teleported away , he should have at least send a letter .
Anyway , it is easy to say how people should handle bad situations , when in reality , we would have done the same mistakes . Damn I lose half my family and you will find me in the next door bar drinking my sorrows away
@@sebastianpolo6271 There was no way that Rudy could’ve gotten a letter to Paul from the Demon Continent. It takes time and money to send a letter from the Demon Continent, and Rudy and his party didn’t have enough money.
I seriously do not understand people, I've seen plenty of people call Paul "trash" and say he's 100% at fault and don't put ANY of the blame on Lilia even though she had sex with her best or great friends husband while she was in the other room. Makes no sense, she left the door open intentionally while she was bathing so that he would have sex with her, she is just as fault. They both betrayed Zenith. And having seen your other video on future events bum me out even more for the family dynamic which was so great originally, they seemed like the ideal and happy couple in the beginning.
Also don't see Rudy's blame in that fight as his 30 year old father punched his 12 year old son in the face, he deserved to get whacked back.
I feel bad for Paul, he has been working so hard to save as many people as he can while suffering from depression and alcoholism so that later he finds out that his son thinks he is garbage like the rest of the people that knows him (btw great video!!)
@Spell Check Yeah but that doesn't change the fact he is trying his best and even his own family thinks hi is trash
@Spell Check No
@Spell Check he is not, everyone makes mistakes, being able to realize then and try to make it up to then is what define who we are
@@andrequintela976 some mistakes aren’t meant to be forgiven
@@silviogrijalva8801 because he cheated? Many People have done this and felt truly guilty, they can be forgiven. Many People mistreated someone they love when they were in a bad mood, they feel sorry and can be forgiven. So why can't Paul? The only thing that can't be forgiven about Paul is that he raped Lilia when they were young
Thinking about it Rudy wanting to impress Paul, might be him subconciously considering him his father, the message just hasn't arrived to his concious mind yet, I bet if he called Paul "Dad" at least once the situation might've gone different.
He did call Paul Father...right in this episode.
@@1000rogueleader he said otou-sama too. the -sama feels like lipservice to me idk
@@kllrnooooova no he always called him like that, and calls him like that even after. It sounds strange to us(and me) since we call our parents thinks like dad/papa but since they are nobles(although minor ones) they do that
Great video. Paul and Rudy remind me of two family members who constantly fight because they have similar personalities and issues. Rudy knows how to push Paul's buttons and Paul knows how to push Rudy's buttons and they see themselves in each other, warts and all. They both have issues with monogamy and they hate themselves for this weakness but will sacrifice everything for their families. Paul thinks more with his little head, though, and that gets him into problems. Rudy doesn't cheat for the sake of getting some "action" so I would say he learned how to be a better partner than Paul if only marginally. They are my two favorite characters. Their interactions are some of the best drama I've seen in anime.
Paul is one of my favourite character, most people include me hate him at first. But after reading the LN, i can't help but love him, pretty sure many people too. That's just how well-written and how good his character development is.
One thing to note is that Zenith forgiviness may not be entirely out of love or because of Lilia. A piece of a dialogue cut in this episode hints that she didn't get with Paul via the most honorable means. So probably there was a bit of guilt as well.
Yup, Einalise taught her how keep Paul around her with sex and seduction. Paul agreed to get married with Zenith simply because she was pregnant with his kid at the time.
OK, so I dont remember the whole story, but the no sex during pregnancy thing harken back to what the demon empress said about twins that died in the womb. Basically, the soul and mana determined at birth is a certain amount (and can increase through training) but if you had a twin who died in womb, the soul and mana get absorbed by the other one growing life, giving them more mana. But this massive amount of mana is in part linked to Laplace, the demon emperor and the legend of his reincarnation.(And also because a certain cursedly unlikeable individual would go around killing those of such high mana potential over the past few centuries) So having sex risk the chance of adding a 2nd child that can either die or kill the first child, causing what is likely a very bad outcome.
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Rudy aint much better than Paul there if we only count the wives part.
I... Don't think that's how biology works.
Twins develop after the egg is fertilized, not from a second egg being fertilized.
@@hoominbeeing oh, for sure, but that is the belief over there.
@@jackvalior Oh, was it mentioned in the manga/anime?
@@hoominbeeing The Web novel, I believe.
Wonderful summary. This is why I watch anime reviews. It doesn't happen often, but some youtubers can look at the same story from a very different perspective. In this case, I'm mostly referring to your take on Sylphy. That aspect was most definitely true, but flew under my radar.
BTW, that fight might have been inevitable, but only because of the characters involved. If either of them was emotionally more detached, or more empathetic of the other, or if Rudeus asked first, things would have gone differently...
Thank you for this. This should be required viewing for all reactors of Mushoku Tensei.
Thank you! I've seen some weird reactions to the last episode on Twitter, gotta say - I'd have thought that would be one of the less controversial episodes but noooo.
@@NatalieXHunter I was finding it frustrating but a few seem to get that there might have been more there. Another this was no one seemed to mention that Norn's first real memory of her brother was him beating the crap out of her father. I can't imagine how that must have felt to her.
Honestly Paul’s my favorite character by far he’s really well developed although I do get huge death flags from him now.
I really liked Paul's character. He makes mistakes but he really is trying to be a better father and role model to Rudeus. I remember him encouraging Rudy to practice fencing numerous times and it was the excitement of him training his son to become a swordsman like himself. There was something very affectionate about that. He also gradually accepted that Rudy is a mage and he hired Roxy to train him in magic. If he was really stubborn he would've refused to let Rudy train in magic and continued forcing swordplay on him. But Paul is a smart person, he continued to train Rudy about how to face a swordsman opponent head on, this practice would serve him in the future when he was met with smugglers in the beastman village. Alot of Paul's actions seem self-serving when looked at through Rudy's pov but when you think about it through a parent's pov, then it all makes sense. I tend to take Paul's side in the argument, that Rudy had been on vacation for over a year and he didn't bother contacting or asking about his family. In that respect Rudy is seen as being childish and inconsiderate.
Sound analysis looking forward to seeing more from you.
Weird flex but I've read the light novel as it was being translated, Paul was never someone I could bring myself to dislike, when we are children we tend to see our parents as heroes that can do anything but as we grow up we begin to understand that their human too and have just as little clue of what their doing in life as the next person, and Paul stood out to me as being a prime example of that. his a good man who is capable of doing great things but also just as capable of making stupid mistakes, his only human, and I really can't bring myself to dislike him for it.
God I can only hope that even one of the stories I'm writing rn is at least half as good as Mushoku.
A truly excellent breakdown and analysis. honestly the whole interaction between Paul and Rudy in volume 5 went deeper than i initially thought. so thanks for helping me realize that. it just makes me like it even more. i absolutely love the type of way Mushoku Tensei's characters are written
Thank you!
Dang, I gotta say Ms. Hunter I really do love the content of your videos, I'm Subbed, but still hate having to take ALL the bass(not the fish) out of my speakers to listen to them. J Aubrey has the same problem, and then Chibi has the opposite problem. You CAN get decent quality near-field monitor speakers for 100 now, Proteus makes the best for that price, and then you would know... though maybe that is just the sound you are going for, but having a good natural sounding balance of lows, mids, and highs really does make it easier on your listeners who have anything better than the cheapest sound set up. Keep it up though, either way you love much of what we love and your insights on those things are very enjoyable.
Honestly, I just put a bass boost and treble boost on my voiceover because I know nothing about that sort of thing and it was what a few podcasters I like the sound of tell me they do... I should probably learn more about that stuff but I have had to learn a lot of things to make videos at all (I was just a writer before, so all of the audio visual stuff I've had to pick up as I go along!), and nobody had really mentioned that issue before...
What a cultured thumbnail NATALIE !
I saw some even more... interesting pictures when I was searching for one to use.
@@NatalieXHunter you need to use Paul rule 34 for mushoku tensei videos from now on
Nah, I once had a thumbnail removed by RUclips for a perfectly normal picture of Elsa from Re:Zero in her normal attire, and so I am not touching any actual r34 on these things!
@@NatalieXHunter true about Elsa and lol I’m kidding but lol the picture was nice
I believe that Paul is the heroic type but he just has some faults like everybody else. I don't know what will happen next with him but I think both Paul and Rudy need a bit of redemption here and need to figure their shit out. Hopefully their next interaction will happen soon and be better than the last one.
Despite everything, they are probably more similar than they think and I think it’s been shown that they both would be similarly devastated if someone they love or adore got very hurt
It's probably already been said down there somewhere but I wanted to share my two cents also, lol! As far as Paul, I think for the most part with the exception of cheating on his wife and how he treated Rudeus after he lied about Paul forcing himself on the other woman (I get it, but he could have handled it a lot better), he isn't truly a horrible father. As far as I can tell he did his best to raise Rudeus with the skills and knowhow necessary to survive the world HOW HE KNOWS IT whether its antiquated for the current times or not. Kind of like how I raise my son, I have always taught him to be kind, courteous and respectful of people, if he is approaching a door and someone, male or female or whatever is following close behind, I taught him to hold open the door and allow them to enter first. Antiquated? Yes. Was I raised that way? Yes. Would I ever teach my son otherwise? No, because I would rather my child be respectful of people and kind than to end up a disgusting little shit that cant be bothered to be a decent human being and what I mean by that is raising children is a slippery and often times disastrous slope and certain behaviors are hard to break, so I see Paul as trying to "undo" so to speak, the disgusting and strange behaviors he is aware his son possesses but struggles to adequately deal with them in a more proper way. Because as a warrior everything is a dragon, like how a hammer thinks everything is a nail, lol! That's just what I get from the context of the anime, I haven't read any of the manga so there's probably lots of character development I'm unaware of.
You're analysis videos on Mushoku Tensei keep impressing me.
I don't think I've seen another channel that even gets close to the level of care and insight your videos have put into them.
Wow, thanks! Though it's pretty hard to stay surface level with stuff like MT and Re:Zero so I always end up writing far more than I expect to about whatever topic I choose!
@@NatalieXHunter That's unavoidable when you're passionate about something I guess
I try to be amused by all the people (mostly in other videos comment sections) taking Paul's side in the fight, or saying Rudy is also at fault because mentioning Sylphy means he does not care about his isekai family. Of dysfunctions that get carried over to his new life, family is not one of them. In episode 4 Rudy takes action to keep family together. In the recent fight with Paul, Paul buries the headline about missing mother for 20 minutes. Paul can't bring himself to tell Rudy that mother is missing until it will win points off of Rudy's concern for Sylphy.
Rudy never meets anyone other than Eris that was teleported until the day he reunites with Paul. Paul doesn't mention missing family, only missing people. Once it comes to blows, Norn shows up, suggesting the possibility that other family is around. Rudy has no reason to not think that Zenith is somewhere nearby, or else Paul would have said something. People can't expect Rudy to worry about Zenith when he has no idea that she could be in the realm of danger. When he is finally told that Buena village was hit, his mind naturally goes to the vulnerable child he protected from bullies for 2 years. A thing that breeds a sense of responsibility. I will agree that Rudy looks at Paul different than a normal child would, but he still cares deeply for him and the rest of his family. Evidence being that the conflict with Paul causes him to vomit in the next scene. Not getting along with Paul devastated Rudy more than being falsely imprisoned, naked and splashed. So much more than any other event that Eris is ready to do murder to the person that affected him so.
Beautifully said! Chef kiss! Its not easy to explain Paul online. I see him a a flawed person who tries his best
*SPOILER FOR THE NOVELS AHEAD*
16:47 “because of that twist of fate” **Hitogami laughing his ass of in the background**
This episode is what I've been waiting for ever since i expect an anime adaptation, and also the discussion and analysis that came out surrounding the reunion scene.
I'm thankful for this video that you made
Given that it takes months to years to travel in this world, it is amazing that Paul and Zenith managed to travel to plead with his relatives, then travel to the rural village and settle in before Rudeus's birth.
I would have sided with Paul but unless if Rudy had said that he was teleported in the demon continent and while saving kidnap children, Paul in that situation should have understand that Rudy was in a situation where they could have died. Rudy was really lucky that they met Ruijerd
Welllll, lucky, yes, but remember something did tell him to make friends with Ruijerd...
@@NatalieXHunter It is a truly classic example of deus ex machina. A God just shows up to fuck shit up.
Well, lots of gods show up in this series tbh!
@@NatalieXHunter But the gods in this series aren't omnipresent
I definitely want to see more light novel content
omg finally someone explaining the conflict from both perspectives
Paul (just like Rudeus, actually) is not a character you are supposed to relate, but reflect upon. He is deeply flawed individual and that's a good thing, because he has a lot of room to grow, which is bread and butter of every character driven story.
Thank you Natalie, you are doing (Dragon) God's work with these videos, the only way I can stay sane waiting for more episodes.
Definitely the Dragon God. Not any other gods.
Too late. Ww3 is coming unless God stops this. Anime will be destroyed. Sorry people.
1st female I’ve seenwho sees mushoku for what it truly is
I love paul, one of my favorite character for sure.
You deserve more subs
Fuckin' ay, Nathalie. Thank you for answering that tweet of mine. This video is great, and complements the what I want to write about Paul Nicely. Can I send you the stuff I've been writing about Mushoku Tensei on Reddit?
Sure, feel free to DM me with a link - I'm in some of the MT subs but I'm more of a lurker because I don't have time to write stuff on there as well as on here!
@@NatalieXHunter By the way, I'm thanking you because answering my tweet brought me to discover your channel. I'll DM you on Twitter.
*new subscriber
Really love the way you calmly go about your videos. Feels like a bed time story to me. Keep up the good work...❤️
Awww thank you! And thank you for subscribing!
Good analysis , i agree in many points and is reliving to see someone else thinking that Paul is just taking his frustration on Rudeus , he did not found the ones he care the most and have to keep rescuing other people around, he was hoping that his genius son would be more successful than him and when the story he hears , rudeus is a bad storyteller , is about adventuring than the desperate search as he does , he got even more upset and frustrated .
It is kind of funny how the two times rudeus was send in a journey they are so alike , both time he was training when someone arrives and soon after he is knocked out and awake in a strange place with strange people .
Paul made some great mistakes , some can be understood, like the cheating was a moment of weakness because he was backed up, anime dont tell but he wasnt having activity with zenith preg and ended up doing it, and also as anime dont tell, his relationship wasnt the same after it, he still had the responsibility as a father to both child, but lost all privileges as a husband , but one thing i cant forgive him , but anime dont even touch, is that letter telling rudeus to cut contact , paul just took from rudeus the chance to see his sisters growing up, something that can never be given back , also his mother , lilia with selphie as aggravating .
This episode put a heavy responsibility for the next one as i know what the next big arc is about, if things arent settled right, it will be weird to go from despair to "fun" times.
I also took Part of Paul's annoyance was Greyrat politics. Thinking after a few years Rudy with that side of the Family in their internal hierarchy he forgot about his real direct family. I'm not sure about the exact timeline, but I think Rudy has probably spent more time with Eris than Paul, especially as a father would consider toddler years unaware/retained.
Like you have to think about it, Rudy was all set to Graduate Eris the day of the calamity. He was supposed to be finished with that family. And it was getting dangerous to play house politics, as we saw what happened to Grandpa last episode or two.
Yeah, I didn't really want to talk about Greyrat politics too much because it would lead to talking about things that haven't really been introduced in the anime yet (like the Notos Greyrat line, and characters like Philemon and Luke), but you're definitely not wrong.
So the recent preview for the upcoming episode is going to show Paul’s POV
It pretty much needs to because there are important scenes for Paul that Rudy isn't there for before their next conversation. In the novel there are Paul POV parts here and the adaptation of this part has been very close to the novels - how they execute it in the anime may give us an idea of how they will adapt other non-Rudeus POV stuff like with Eris later on.
@@NatalieXHunter ya they had to just worried before if they didn’t but they can’t fit it all in one episode
really enjoyed this vid, it verbalizes so much better some point about this episode i have commented in other vids and i made me see better the effort that Paul puts trying to be better as a father and as a person
I love your videos Natalie! Thank you!
Thank you so much!
thanks. in depth analisis of characters is something i'm always keen on seeying :)
Man I have been waiting for this for long time
Love your Avatar her clothing rocks thanks for sharing
To me it seems like Paul is a lot like Rangar from the Last Kingdom 2 different mindset, like Rangar when there wasn't a battle or war just wanted to make children so his bloodline would continue, but the warrior side that would be unstoppable
Paul is the greatest character that makes me want to be a Provider Protector Man.
Wonderful analysis! As for what I think of Paul I dislike him but, appreciate his character as one of the best written characters in the series.
Thank you. 🙏
I'm no gay but... THE THUMBNAIL IS HOT
I Love you're point of view ( it really rise the story more) :)
Without his two wives, Paul might end up becoming a yarichin NTRing other people's wives.
Fun fact. Pauls middle name is Chad.
This was great. I'll expect one which contains the novel details.
He's the worst best father that you can have
Thanks for the video, great content. Just subbed.
Awesome, thank you!
You're missing the part about Lillia purposely seducing paul. It's not like paul just randomly had sex with her against her will.
Yeah, I'd talked about that in a different video and ended up forgetting to mention it here, but that is true.
Amazing video!
Thanks!
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Oh! So Norn was influenced by her Millis grandmother and that made her... ah shoot this is a Paul video. I just realized you can kinda talk about this story forever😅 Thanks so much for the content as always :) I wanted to ask if it's possible to do a video on Luke. I know we are awhile off from getting to this character but I don't think I ever really understood his role in the story. First thing that comes to mind is that duel he has with Rudy. Like, why is this even happening lol. I just never really understood it and how you break down these characters I may be able to understand it better.
I'd like to do a video about Luke but I want to see if he is in any way properly shown in this season first (he might be, depending what gets adapted of the non-Rudeus stuff from these volumes), so I at least won't feel like I'm spoiling people by putting a picture of him on a thumbnail lol!
@@NatalieXHunter ah thats cool totally understand. I really just wanted to get the idea out there. Really appreciate all you do 😄
What you're saying is is that Paul was written to be almost human? Except for the negative outcome of course.
I actually wasn't really mad with Paul for cheating on His Wife. IRL most of my friends have cheated on their Wife's and Girlfriends.
However I was mad at Paul for getting so mad at Rudius when they reunited. After all Rudius was transferred to the Demon Continent and barely survived. Paul was an adventurer so He should of at least realised how dangerous it was for Rudius since so many people who were teleported ended up dying or getting captured by slave traders.
Yoo thats fucked up tho, you get used to it?
You need some better friends bro
Let alone he was the reason to why they were completely separated. Knocking his son out and sending him away. It would still be a high probable chance for them to be together even after the teleportation incident.
My friends all been caught cheating on their Wife's and Girlfriends and they got away with it anyway. I got one friend who cheated on his wife with Her sister and now he has like 5 kids with them. They just fight each other and still both secretly carry on with him. My other friend has been caught cheating on His girlfriend loads and they are still together. I just can't be asked to get involved with all the arguing and fighting because they always get back together within about 2 weeks. I'm not saying that it's ok or anything, I am just feed up with all the drama so I just don't bother worrying about it.
Man this comment makes me sad
Thx for the video 👍
No problem 👍
I liked the episode but I feel that the internal struggle that rudeus was having was missing, I really felt that this chapter was going to be better, the series in total is good so I can't really complain but I still felt a bit let down
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you start talking about paul in the past tense for a couple sentences towards the end 👀
Wellllll, that was probably an accident but people often talk about stories in the past tense (as if it's stuff that 'happened' rather than stuff that is 'happening') so I wouldn't think about it too much!
Paul wished he could use RBD and fix the pregnancy. Lol shimoneta reference. Oh so there’s a depressing reason for her outfit. Curious on comparison between manga, LN and anime. The writer is good at writing situations where neither are completely right but people can also take a single side in the issue or conflict
Well, I can't compare all three versions because I haven't read the manga and if I ever do it won't be for a while (I'd like to see the bonus stuff in the manga, but not right after reading the series lol - I usually just read things in whatever format they were originally written in, so don't normally read manga adaptations of LNs, but I've heard the MT one is a good one at least).
@@NatalieXHunter not as good as the LN of course and I mean can just read up on the Paul reunion or on certain episode content to compare. It isn’t that long and the most current chapter is still around the university arc
than you i also read the ln it is great
Paul is a G!
Wonderful video, thank you.
I have a theory I would like to hear your thoughts on regarding why Rudy never bothered to ask around about the Disaster. I've seen multiple ones that sound interesting but this one thing I have not seen mentioned. Before Rudy even woke up from the disaster, he was already told it's name and was given a task by a certain entity. I've heard someone mention that in the LN/WN? he mentioned he forgot because he was to busy with surviving, taking care of Eris and the Supard/Superd's reputation. And anime shows us this, it's all that's on his mind.
From my point of view the reasons he did not think about it are many and all help to cloud his judgement:
- he was acting like this was an event for him, even though earlier in the series he realized he could die at any time (proof of this is him mentioning events on the boat he is looking forward to)
- while the entity told him to "help the man", he chose to distrust it but still help the man, yet I feel he subconsciously accepted the information he was given about the event, so from the entity side of things he was still doing something that Rudy, might have done? wants him to do anyway, the entity is also responsible for him being involved with the smugglers and missing the letter? it's a two point thing that depends on how much the entity knows but it seemed to know of future events, ergo it would know that Rudy meets the smuggler and so forth, don't see why it would want this though
- people tend to believe what they want to believe or what is more convenient for them (I believe the author understands this and can only praise his writing)
- I doubt Rudy and Eris were the only ones TP-ed to the demon continent, so I believe that if he did not have tunnel vision we would have seen other humans in the cities he passed
So I for one love Paul, he's a wonderful father, but a flawed human and bad husband due to him cheating. So I am on his side of things, because if Rudy was thinking clearly he had many chances to realize. Word of the disaster must have spread to port towns so if he just did what a true adventurer does and kept an ear to the ground he would have found out.
It’s more complicated than just Paul cheated, don’t forget that he’s from a society of polygamy while his wife is from a society of monogamy so him not cheating would be harder since there’s less of a concept of that unless you sleep with someone else’s wife. It’s like that kids toy analogy people use of trying to push a square into the circle hole but it’s actually in this case you pushing the circle piece through the square hole, sure it fits but it’s not a perfect fit.
I can't really talk about that entity given I've read the whole series so I know too much about what the deal is with that to really talk about it in anime only terms, but really the entity only gives him advice twice during his time on the demon continent - when he is first teleported it tells him to help Ruijerd, and it also tells him to buy food and walk where Kishirika will be.
I think it would have been very hard for him to run into other survivors unless he knew to look for them. The demon continent is the most dangerous place in terms of monsters, so a lot of people teleported there would have been killed, and as we saw with Paul's group, it was also the case that a lot of people ended up being captured and enslaved after wandering into the wrong places. Seeing slaves around isn't unusual, so Rudy wouldn't question it, and it's not like everybody in the whole region who was teleported was human, or that there were no humans already on the demon continent, so even seeing humans wouldn't really make him wonder if they were people like him who'd been teleported. I think he genuinely just assumed given he, Eris and Ghislaine were at basically ground zero of the event, and that they'd had that peculiar interaction with Arumanfi right before it happened, where they were accused of having something to do with what was happening, that they were the only people affected.
There were no other survivors on the Demon Continent, or at least not many. Most were transported to the wilderness and died there.
I mean pual promising to be faithful to zenith and he did alright. but she basically told a a drug addict to stop doing drugs and he did for 4-6years? Im not saying he wasn’t an ass but its like giving a crack addict keys your house and saying don’t steal.
Honestly i saw a video about Rudy’s perception.and how the anime captures his actions and he’s basically a kid in action and thought but his perception of him self is a dirty old man which he hates himself in multiple ways.
Honestly I don’t understand why people hate rudy I mean at most pity him but people seem to ether hate great story telling or they don’t see how shitty his previous life was the dude was beaten and what would be public humiliation and pyc torture because they left him tied up and he was previously just a kid that got way to into computers and let his school work slip.
His parents should have at least sent him to therapy get him into another school or home school him something so he didn’t slide into that depression and didn’t have a fear of the outside world like he had. ( i am assuming that they kinda slid him under a rug because they didn’t want other people to see that they had a son with a mental illness) so they didn’t like that he was a shut-in but it was was a better alternative than others seeing him.)
Back to current: they both made assumptions about how each other’s time was used. And that being a huge wedge between rudy and paul . I mean he had to worry about helping rujard, hittogommy (man god), money, eris. He was told that it was a huge teleport event but he could have thought it was on the scale of just the city he was in . thinking it would be larger would be a stretch because he didn’t believe that someone split the continent in two .
I don't think Paul is trash for sleeping with another women first it's not earth it's another world plus the that world is combine with another 4 or 5 world races PLUS it's something new that i have not seen in another animes sorry for my poor english.
Can you talk about Kaitou Joker?
I actually don't know anything about it :/
I think it's funny people who trash talk a person oblivious to their own flaws in todays society everyone looks outward but never inward a dying practice that needs to be reborn in society. No one is perfect even better the person who got raped ends up seducing him and bearing his child yeah paul had a weak moment I might be ignorant of that info I wonder how many women and men out there who wasn't a 100 percent sure being with someone when they bust their cherries they were ready and planned out most of the people I know haven't and the few that have are rare that's realism. A fantasy world that's not always fantasy and that's what I like about it
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New design
Not really - I don't have a particular design I use for thumbnails anymore, I just make whatever I can for each video haha!
@@NatalieXHunter okay that make sense.
Paul never did anything wrong. This has been my Ted talk.
do you have a discord server Id like to join
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What is the reason one of the girls just wears a bikini???
Good vid. Paul is weird =|
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I really hated Paul during the episode that they reunited. If we remove that we know Rudius has been reincarnated then what Paul did was not just horrible as a person but down right awful as a Father. He berated his 11 year old Son that made it back home alive from being Teleported to another Continent for not doing "better". Then when his Son get upset for being treated that way and verbally lashes out at him he PUNCHES him. The Father who just found his missing 11 year old Son berates and physically assaults him shortly after seeing him. If it had been me I would have never wanted anything to due with him again, just as Geese said to him later. Paul was lucky to have a friend like Geese who was willing to speak the truth to him when obviously the people with him where not. The next episode has let me forgive Paul for this, since Rudius is willing to, but I still think he has been a bad Father to Rudius.
Meh, I am sure that maid was in the wrong too along with Paul. I was a skeptic that they would allow multi marriages in that universe. But whatever. It is like Paul never heard of it. I think I may have found a plot hole...
People do have multiple wives in this setting sometimes, but for Paul that wouldn't be an option he would have considered because of Zenith's religion - she wouldn't normally allow it.
@@NatalieXHunter Thanks. I stoped reading the novel. I did not like this series that much. To each their own.