Who is Laplace? Mushoku Tensei Explained

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  • Опубликовано: 24 янв 2022
  • #MushokuTensei #JoblessReincarnation #anime
    Demon God Laplace is one of the most intriguing Mushoku Tensei characters, especially if you have also read the prequel web novel Old Dragon's Tale (or listened to my audiobook style readings of it here on my RUclips channel!). In this video I look at what happened to Laplace after Old Dragon's Tale, why he became so hated and feared by characters like Perugius and Ruijerd, and how he is connected to Orsted, along with discussion of other things from Mushoku Tensei lore such as Fighting God armor, Technique God, and of course, Hitogami. This video contains spoilers for all of the Mushoku Tensei light novel and web novel series.
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  • @sharkmanro
    @sharkmanro 2 года назад +101

    Some little side notes:
    "Whoever wears the Fighting God armor becomes the Fighting God". That's incorect, the armor itself when on autopilot is the Fighting God (unclear if it has to be worn by Badi or others while being sentient but I would assume the Fighting God that's 3rd ranked in the 7GWP is the sentient armor with Badi as the wearer)
    Technique God apparently uses magic stones to create a pseudo touki.
    Demon God probably has multiple demon eyes (he slowed Ruijerd's movement with a demon eye). Although he can't wear touki, his Laplace factors still give him immense physical strenght (manages to beat Ruijerd at close range, crushing his bones with a punch). He also remembers the "Hito" part of Hitogami's name.
    Badigadi drank the potion that made him invisible to demon eyes and then equiped the armor. We have no idea what that potion was but when paired with the armor it drove Badi mad and made him impossible to reason with. It could be related to Necrolia (the demon king Laplace fought in ODT, where he couldn't detect him with his demon eye). Badi also recognised Laplace as the Demon Dragon God which his father Necross told him he should never fight. Rifujin also said in a Q&A that during the 2nd HD war when Badi called himself the Wise Demon King that he used to wear glasses and only had 2 arms (I used to think it was just a joke but looking at Badi's nerdy personnality in his backstory I think it could be true).

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад +26

      Thank you for this (and for your other comments expanding on the details of this stuff) - I'm not sure how much of this information is stuff that was elaborated on in the light novel volumes that haven't been translated yet (so stuff I didn't know at all) or how much was me not remembering where various details of this aspect of the story were to re-read them and clarify stuff while I was writing this video, but it's really helpful that you have this knowledge to hand to add in! I'm actually going to pin this comment!

    • @Heddell1
      @Heddell1 2 года назад +7

      "Rifujin also said in a Q&A that during the 2nd HD war when Badi called himself the Wise Demon King that he used to wear glasses and only had 2 arms"
      Hahahaha! Oh my, I want this to be true so much! Please Rifu, keep it canon!

    • @ApexGale
      @ApexGale 2 года назад +5

      The fighting god armor is inert unless equipped, and slowly drains the health of its wearer. It also is extremely difficult to be unequipped. So it's more likely that Badi is the only one who is even capable of using the armor to its full potential given his immortality, meaning he's one of the few "possible" Fighting Gods in the first place. Given that Orsted very easily disposes of Alex III (North God wearing the armor), I'd assume Badi is the only "true" Fighting God.

    • @sharkmanro
      @sharkmanro 2 года назад +3

      @@ApexGale Ik, Badi is the strongest wearer but the actual fighting god is the armor itself when it's on autopilot when worn by him

    • @NotTyreg
      @NotTyreg 2 года назад +3

      author said in a q and a that neither the armor or badi itself is the fighting god, only when badi wears the armor is he the fighting god, but if someone else wears the armor they wont be

  • @xidjav1836
    @xidjav1836 2 года назад +338

    So from what I've understood, the gods played amongus and Hitogami was the imposter but Laplace was the one that got voted?

  • @albertko1
    @albertko1 2 года назад +70

    I think it would be great to see Orsted be the one to redeem Laplace.
    We know Hitogami lies and has used his knowledge of the future to his advantage to suppress opposition. I wouldn't put it past him to spread prophecy that is contrary to Orsted's goal... Even going as far as to lead them to think they should kill the instrument of their victory... Something like unifying and restoring Laplace to his original form.

  • @jameshunt9907
    @jameshunt9907 2 года назад +49

    I just finished reading all of the web series and the redundancy chapters along with listening to your readings. There are so many characters and scenes I can't wait to see animated. Hopefully we will get a sequel series. There are so many characters I have to know how things go for and many other hinted at characters I want to see brought to life.
    Watching your videos along with the anime was a great joy, and I look forward to seeing your future videos while watching Overlord.

  • @ex497
    @ex497 2 года назад +4

    Your channel has become one of my favorites recently keep up the great work and ill always be supporting u from here on out much love :]

  • @Nakama4Forever
    @Nakama4Forever 2 года назад +2

    Nice! You just made my day. Thanks for the awesome video 😁

  • @itsall_legal
    @itsall_legal 2 месяца назад +4

    I would have loved to see a laplace arc instead of the can't get it up arc 💔

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 месяца назад +1

      Haha! Laplace doesn't really play a part in Rudy's story though, he's just a kind of, feature of the world. And could Laplace get it up? We don't know. He is my go to example of why Rifujin is just as good at writing protagonists that don't ever think about sex at all as he is at writing pervy ones (for Old Dragon's Tale, where Laplace is the protagonist).

    • @itsall_legal
      @itsall_legal 2 месяца назад +2

      @@NatalieXHunter that's a very fair point. I've listened to the whole light novel and odt so I get how big of a part the first part of season 2 is in the grand scheme of things I guess it just low key hurt to see Rudy go through his ed phase lol

  • @derhochi1794
    @derhochi1794 2 года назад +20

    I think its way more likely that Laplace will be Sieg‘s son and Sieg would oppose Lara and Orsted in order to protect him. It would parallel Rudeus proclaiming he would protect Sieg and the place of Laplace‘s reincarnation would also be similar to the original timeline (Republic created by Pax and kingdom created by Pax Jr). Its also been forshadowed that Sieg will become Lara‘s and Rudeus’ enemy and Laplace factor seems somewhat genetic.

    • @Name-me5su
      @Name-me5su 2 года назад

      Pretty sure rudeus is already dead before it happens

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад +2

      We do see Sieg up to middle age though in Oblige and there's no mention of him having any kids, let alone notable ones...
      I wonder if he might be born in Lucy and Clive's line - think how much Elinalise is in that bloodline where she's Lucy's great grandmother and Clive's mom, and of course, Sylphy and Rudeus are her parents as well as Sieg's.

    • @derhochi1794
      @derhochi1794 2 года назад

      @@NatalieXHunter i dont think him being 30-40 (in human years) means he cant settle down and have kids. It could also be pax‘s grandchild and thats why he protects Laplace. I‘m pretty convinced Sieg will somehow oppose Lara and Orsted and him protecting Laplace seems the most likely way for that to happen considering the parallel to Rudeus at Sieg‘s birth.

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад +1

      Well, Sieg is only 1/8th elf, and if Sylphy as a quarter elf ages only slightly slower than a human (she looks like she's in her 40s when Rudeus is in his 70s) then I don't think there would be that much difference between Sieg and a human in terms of aging. Not saying he couldn't still have kids, given men can still have kids into old age, I just don't think that seems to be where the author is going with Sieg. It's a bit too on the nose, and he tends to do more surprising things. I saw one theory I thought was pretty interesting that Laplace is actually the person Lara is talking about looking for at the end of Redundancy, rather than Akihito. It would be much more surprising and also interesting if Lara is the one to actually side with Laplace, perhaps her divination indicating a way that she could help him and get him onside, but other characters refusing to accept it...

  • @suedortnega6823
    @suedortnega6823 2 года назад +33

    Laplace is a very well made character. I like him a lot.

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад +5

      Me too - I'd love for him to get some kind of redemption in the sequel!

    • @suedortnega6823
      @suedortnega6823 2 года назад +5

      @@NatalieXHunter I hope he regains all his missing memories once he reincarnate.

    • @strikerz55
      @strikerz55 Год назад +1

      @@suedortnega6823 thats not going to happen , from WN 25 itself theres indication orsted already fused laplace together again
      thats why rudeus says : did laplace telling u that in ur previous loops ?
      orsted : yes ,as well i am son of the 1st DG and he told me how to apply the curse
      also ,thers no way redemption ,lapace is the character that needs to die
      his exist only to suffer tho ,very sad

    • @nandanibainishad8197
      @nandanibainishad8197 Год назад

      @@strikerz55 ah can you pls tell which chapter was it?

    • @strikerz55
      @strikerz55 Год назад

      @@nandanibainishad8197 LN 25

  • @ricardovelasquez791
    @ricardovelasquez791 Год назад

    Love coming back and listening to these

  • @okami6ix629
    @okami6ix629 2 года назад +1

    I don't really feel like reading this stuff but I want to know so... thank you. You're doing good work.

  • @michaeldmingo1525
    @michaeldmingo1525 2 года назад +4

    I can't wait to see Technique God and Laplace at the same time and place.

  • @Hades2Eros
    @Hades2Eros 2 года назад +4

    @20:12 I agree. I think the objects are keys for a teleportation circle to open a gateway to the void world where Hitogami is at.

  • @Ananta9817
    @Ananta9817 Год назад +9

    I don't think it was originally the condition that you have to kill the dragon kings to obtain the treasures in order to reach Hitogami. Laplace was thriving over the idea of Orsted and Perugias fighting side by side, so I suspect Hitogami's involvement as it would be inconvenient to him for Orsted to have allies.
    9.9/10 times if something appears to be convenient for Hitogami, it is definitely his own machinations.

    • @Learner-qw1ee
      @Learner-qw1ee 11 месяцев назад +1

      This could be. Like yeah this actually makes sense. Could also be something that happened in past loop. That orsted doesn't like very much and that's why he decided to work seperately without technique god or perguise help

    • @empiricalpurity
      @empiricalpurity 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Learner-qw1ee According Old Dragon's Tale, Laplace embedded fragments of the First Dragon God within the Dragon Generals or their successor. Which is why Rudeus believes Orsted needs to kill them in order to retrieve the fragments and access Hitogami. If you know you're going to kill someone in the future. Working with them, potentially developing a friendship with them, and growing to care for them. Might make it harder for you to do what is needed to be done when the time comes.

  • @Butter_Warrior99
    @Butter_Warrior99 2 года назад +2

    This going straight into the playlist.

  • @cgecko3
    @cgecko3 2 года назад +7

    Well done as always alot of this I already knew from reading but, you're very insightful I didn't think to put two and two together and realize Rudy could be wrong about the gems it seems that he is.

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад +1

      It is an aspect of the story I definitely think will have some kind of surprise element to it when it all plays out, but until then it's all speculation really.

  • @ookami_otaku1206
    @ookami_otaku1206 2 года назад +3

    I love that you keep doing videos on mushoku tensei videos and I really wish more people would do actual research on the series they cover instead of just repeating what they read on twitter and reddit i also wish you could get more attention than idiots like mothers basement and other because you actual do your research and read the novels both web/light novel unlike most so thanks again for these videos

  • @notbrentfaiyaz
    @notbrentfaiyaz 2 года назад +3

    She's back🧡🧡

  • @Heddell1
    @Heddell1 2 года назад +14

    Another interisting thing that Rifu said in QA.
    Q: Isn't Laplace, Technique God, unable to fight because he has no magical power?
    A: It may be possible to wear something like a pseudo-fighting spirit using a fist-sized magic crystal.
    Technique God is even more misterious than his original self, i can't wait to meet him. I hope he kept the wings and scale. It would be nice to have a full dragon race in the main story.
    I assume he hides due to the curse, in my headcanon he is the one who trained Orsted in the previous loops since they wouldn't fear each other.
    But i wonder why Orsted refused to ask for his help. Does he feel horrible to ask one half to kill the other?
    Does he have the jewel while his demon half has the treasure? Does Orsted need the jewel or the treasure from the demon half? So many questions.
    P.S: Sigh, third time is the charm. I guess that the link makes my comment autodelete.

    • @strikerz55
      @strikerz55 Год назад +1

      thered a hint in WN 25 , assuming orsted probably manage to fuse demon god and technique god
      orsted : laplace at the time seems doenst know who wear the armor ,until i heard his death i lost interest bla bla bla so on "
      rudeus : did laplace told u in ur previous loops ?
      orsted : yes , also im son of the original dragon god and my father give me this curse "
      but since orsted finaly find out that the only way to go to barren world is to have 5 sacred treasure
      remmeber also on chapter where nanahoshi finaly make the final teleportation device ?
      perugius : never thought of me ,i finaly will teach to you something ,u who hold such extensive knowledge
      orsted : no ,i learn alot from u , alot
      it seems on early loops orsted did become a student-like to perugius
      after finding out 5 treasure is a part of the orb that held by perugius and others ,orsted said in final battle when rudeus try to recrut tech god and perugius
      : i dont wanna be comrade with those guys
      rudeus : ( is this sacred treasure kinda their souls or what ? )
      as for orb thing ,the tech god probably have the pure form orb ( not the shattered ones that dragon god shares to his 5 generals ) ,and the shattered ones was in the demon god
      otherwise orsted will kill tech god

  • @josepholdoni7102
    @josepholdoni7102 2 года назад +2

    loving your videos liked and commented :-)

    • @josepholdoni7102
      @josepholdoni7102 2 года назад +2

      thank you, I have binged watched everything even your read of laplas audio book. Keep up the amnazing videos

  • @Taliysin
    @Taliysin 2 года назад +3

    Yeah, you promised and I’ve been waiting! Though you totally deserve a break 😉

  • @chuckwisss7766
    @chuckwisss7766 2 года назад +1

    Love all ur videos 🥰

  • @Kng__Wzrd
    @Kng__Wzrd 2 года назад +4

    I really enjoyed ODT, and I started reading, I’m on book 6 so I’m excited to finished the series. I don’t usually read light novels or manga bcuz I love animation n voice acting. But this story change that for me. I’m looking forward for any new video you drop. TY

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад

      Thank you so much! Glad you're enjoying the novels!

  • @bagusarief13
    @bagusarief13 2 года назад +1

    ayoooo, thank you nat for uploading about my boy laplace!!

  • @Bearrilla92
    @Bearrilla92 2 года назад +4

    Been waiting on this one. I'm not ready for what is bound to be a tragedy. Thank you Natalie

  • @joseSanchez-ej2oh
    @joseSanchez-ej2oh 2 года назад +2

    One idea if I just ran into today while looking for the mushoku OSTs was maybe covering how they relate to the story
    I think it be worth commenting on all them in one video or mentioning them in other videos, especially the 5th (?) one bc it seems like its lyrics are about (probably) a young Orsted

  • @G973_
    @G973_ 15 часов назад

    As someone who's only finished the main story and have yet to come around to the other ones, the elinalise reveal here was a "holy sht" moment for me. I had an inkling she had more to her past, but I was not expecting that.

  • @resengan123
    @resengan123 2 года назад +5

    i believe taking the treasure kills them based on on of Orsted's later POVs. He said something along the lines of he would consider putting off collecting the Mad dragon king Chaos' treasure next loop. it was around the time zanoba/rudy/cliff were working on one of their projects. I cant remember if this was main story or redundancy chapters but the way he said it implied he was the reason Chaos wasn't alive.

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад +1

      Yeah, that's true. Maybe it's not so much that it's their life force but that they need the parts of the God Ball (teehee) to survive in the human world or something...

    • @resengan123
      @resengan123 2 года назад +1

      @@NatalieXHunter I speculate they had fuse the treasures with themselves at some point, maybe before they died, in order to keep them safe. and maybe only the dragon god can remove them?

  • @DarkNorthEmperor
    @DarkNorthEmperor 2 года назад +17

    Laplace can be easily presented as "The Fighting God f++ked up bigtime."
    Also, I've read somewhere in the wiki that Demon Dragon Laplace was the one who gave Perugius his name.
    And finally, I've also read that the Reincarnation technique that Laplace uses is not exclusive to him. It's a technique of the Dragon Clan.

  • @SilverYPheonix
    @SilverYPheonix 2 года назад +11

    Is it only demon-king Laplace the one who needs to reincarnate? This is just a silly speculation of mine, but maybe Laplace will only be able to reincarnate when his divided parts die as well. Unless that happens, his reincarnation will never be fully realized, is what I believe.

  • @thermophile1695
    @thermophile1695 2 года назад +1

    This video came out right when we were doing Laplace Transforms in class.

  • @jshbld6582
    @jshbld6582 2 года назад +1

    Amazing just amazing

  • @AisosaEtal
    @AisosaEtal 2 года назад +1

    Me who watched all 13 parts of dragon tale and read his Wiki but still watching this video because I love this channel 🤩🤩

  • @atomic.brosdagnogo2943
    @atomic.brosdagnogo2943 2 года назад +2

    finally your voice returned

  • @amartyobasu801
    @amartyobasu801 2 года назад +3

    I think Laplace is a reference to the term 'Laplace's demon' which originated from a mathematical physicist named Pierre-simon Laplace. In his theory he said more ore less that if an intellect (demon) knows all forces set in motion, and all positions of all items in nature, it can almost accurately predict what they will do in future and where they will end up. It's not exactly what he said but I'm heavily paraphrasing.
    I think, the literal significance is that, people judge others based on what they did in the past. They think that others will behave in those predetermined notions. But the whole point of the show is that people change and they should not be judged based on their past behavior or actions.

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад +1

      I think based on other elements of the plot (relating especially to Orsted and Hitogami, with both trying to predict the future based on different incomplete observations) there is a more literal theme of determinism in the story. But yes, the author did name him after that Laplace - he named quite a few characters after physicists.

    • @amartyobasu801
      @amartyobasu801 2 года назад

      @@NatalieXHunter Oh are there other characters he named after scientists that are not dragons?

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад

      Yeah, as well as Orsted, Laplace, and various other dragon tribe characters, Fitts was also chosen as a name because of a mathematician/scientist (which is why Fitts rather than Fitz is the correct spelling). There could actually be lots of them, I just don't know all the famous scientists haha! It seems like that was a way he looked for inspiration for names, though, it's quite common for authors.
      Another interesting one is Norn and Aisha who are named after characters from a game he liked. I had always wondered why the name 'Norn' comes up so often in Japanese fantasy stories... I wish someone would explain to me why there are characters called 'Melty' in so many Japanese series though, that just sounds like a silly name in English!

    • @srikrishnabhat6793
      @srikrishnabhat6793 Год назад

      @@amartyobasu801 Szilard and Maxwell in ODT are Dragon Kings named after scientists Leo Szilard and James Clerk Maxwell.

  • @gas467
    @gas467 10 месяцев назад

    My god your voice is soothing

  • @emg910728
    @emg910728 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you. This kind old man, who saw war 20 years ago. Who has lived a mostly tragic life with glimmers of joy sporadically placed in his story. A man who tries lo live honorably despite a dishonorable past. I wept and laughed.

  • @mkx4055
    @mkx4055 2 года назад +1

    Hey I want to ask if you can do a reading series on mushoku tensei

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад +1

      No, a lot of people ask me that but there are two reasons why not. First, copyright (it is officially licensed in English, unlike Old Dragon's Tale which is an unlicensed, free web novel), and secondly, it is about 2.5 million words long, and I don't really want to do nothing but readings for the rest of time! Unless I was hired to do the official audiobooks or something there isn't really a way (and that would be very unlikely too, given it's in the first person and has a male MC, and I'm a woman!). I will do more side stories though.

  • @jthadcast
    @jthadcast 28 дней назад

    in which source material is the explanation of how/why laplace was split? i remember brief acknowledgement but never a real story, did i miss something?

  • @Outcastgrunt098
    @Outcastgrunt098 2 года назад +15

    Something intresting I thought of is does Kishirka know where laplace is imprisoned and acts kind of like a gaurdion or something considering she states her inabiliaty to follow Badi and the others when the leave the Demon continental their could be many reasons but I thought it interesting.

    • @sharkmanro
      @sharkmanro 2 года назад +6

      Laplace isn't really imprisoned. It's never stated why Kishirika can't leave the Demon Continent but I would assume she can't reincarnate if she dies in a different continent. Pretty silly but that's the only explanation I can think of.

    • @Outcastgrunt098
      @Outcastgrunt098 2 года назад +2

      @@sharkmanro you could be right about the Reincarnation thing my only problem is why does geography matter another thought is if the humans knew that she was alive again their could be another war or at least kishirika my think so, the laplace imprisonment is dumn but maybe she is guarding something anyway.

    • @jaydengray30
      @jaydengray30 2 года назад

      @@sharkmanro didn’t she say it was just because of a curse?

    • @sharkmanro
      @sharkmanro 2 года назад

      @@jaydengray30 Badi said it's something like a curse, never stated what it exactly is though

    • @jaydengray30
      @jaydengray30 2 года назад

      @@sharkmanro when asked if her inability to leave the continent was a curse Kishirika replied “something like that”

  • @bf3gam3rksa
    @bf3gam3rksa 2 года назад +1

    Sorry for the question may I ask what's the name of the background music you use? Thanks

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад +1

      I use a lot of different tracks in these videos but they are all from Streambeats by Harris Heller (you can find his playlists on RUclips if you look that up - he makes a lot of music that RUclipsrs and streamers are allowed to use. I use mostly his lofi stuff but he has a lot of music in other genres too).

  • @redpapa859
    @redpapa859 2 года назад

    Excellent job it explains a lot now it makes sense why laplace's has been so shady he knows his little brother is responsible for helping out the human God

    • @sharkmanro
      @sharkmanro 2 года назад +2

      "he knows his little brother is responsible for helping out the human God"
      What??

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад +1

      Yeah, I'm a bit confused by what you mean... His little brother is Orsted. It was Badigadi who was helping out Hitogami.

    • @redpapa859
      @redpapa859 2 года назад +1

      @@NatalieXHunter orsted hatred for the human God has never been truly explained and LaPlace memories were removed but not by the human God but just because one's memories have been altered doesn't mean their subconscious has been affected AKA orsted has a secret and I guaranteed it involves his mother's death

  • @midsmoker6880
    @midsmoker6880 2 года назад +8

    I hope we get to see the war with reincarnated Laplace in the sequel if we get one

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад +4

      The sequel will almost certainly happen, and it would be very weird if it didn't have Laplace's reincarnation in it after all the build up! I just hope we start getting it soon!

    • @michaeldmingo1525
      @michaeldmingo1525 2 года назад +3

      The end story of the girl who relives her life again and again. The country She was in was invaded by Demons and I think that this was Laplace.

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад +1

      Yes, most likely, but that was in a timeline that was then messed with by her causing the mass teleportation event so Laplace's reincarnation could be different to what happened there.

    • @vogel2499
      @vogel2499 10 месяцев назад

      Rifujin busy writing orc fanfic. We might never get sequel until MT reached TP 4 and that orc fanfic got adaptation.

  • @BlueShiftna
    @BlueShiftna Год назад

    Anyone know the song around 5:40?

  • @saljpal3
    @saljpal3 2 года назад +6

    I really hope Dragon God Laplace returns in the sequel series.

    • @Phenomatron
      @Phenomatron 2 года назад

      What if one of Rudy's descendants has a child with Orsted at some point, who ends up being a human demon dragon hybrid that and is his return? Maybe Orsted finds the books Laplace had of the old dragon era and Similar to his father names the child restoring both him and his honor as a dragon general

    • @Learner-qw1ee
      @Learner-qw1ee 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@PhenomatronI'm not so sure orsted would wanna have a child man with all that going on in his life. But it could happen, interesting theory I guess.

  • @VarticTube
    @VarticTube 2 года назад +8

    Great video as always. I am looking forward to the sequal, as you said, it can't be that simple, there are just too many interconnected factors. I also think Rudeus misunderstood what exactly is needed to get to Hitogami.

  • @TBoneTony
    @TBoneTony 11 месяцев назад

    Maybe there is more to Laplace and the original story that Rudeus first heard from his parents reading to him seems to be only told at one side.
    Not sure if I would ever see the anime adaptation of Laplace arc, but it will be an interesting ride.

  • @1toolaj
    @1toolaj 2 года назад +17

    Will lapalce ever come back to his original form, lets hope so because he's gotta help Orsted

    • @vogel2499
      @vogel2499 2 года назад +1

      With kingdoms united again under 1 banner, and also Rudy's influence on demon race I doubt next Laplace reincarnation would be terrifying.
      Even if he will be assisted with Hitogami, Laplace would be clapped easily.

    • @felipeluna9597
      @felipeluna9597 2 года назад

      @@vogel2499 easily? you are talking about the same person who once held the title of demon-dragon king among the 5 dragon generals, whose power was equal to a member of the original eight great demon kings, who when split in to two, his demon side pushed humanity to the corner, he defeated the king of the red dragons, his demon side alone was powerful enough to warrant seven strong beings to defeat him, in it includes a dragon god, a dragon king, and a north god, his body is immortal forcing them to seal him with god-class barrier magic,
      you are talking about that same laplace? THAT laplace? that dude who basically influenced the following 400+ years after his sealing because his actions caused so much change, the only person alive as of now who can actually defeat him in a one on one battle, is only orsted, and that is cheating since he is like a creator of a game who knows everything on the back of his hand, technique god might defeat him, but the dude is AFK, laplace might lose the war, but no fucking way would he be clapped that easily, he didn't name himself demon god, they named him that because he is the strongest demon, who also pushed humanity to the corner, they didn't call his waging war on humanity the third human-demon war, they said it is the laplace war
      and we aren't even talking about his vast knowledge, his wit, and his cunningness

    • @sharkmanro
      @sharkmanro 2 года назад

      @@felipeluna9597 he wasn't sealed with God class barrier magic, he wasn't sealed at all. His body was destroyed by an ancient magic circle

    • @Learner-qw1ee
      @Learner-qw1ee 11 месяцев назад

      @@vogel2499 i don't remember where but it was stated by author that Laplace (Demonic dragon God) is almost as strong as orsted with magic and sword play. So half of him (Demon god) with knowledge of 20000+ years of magic and a very high knowledge of war(possibly highest in the series)is not an easy opponent at all lol 💀. Idc what you say, bro is gonna cause problems and with hitogami's interference just anything could happen. We know he is cooking something behind the scenes.
      Well we will see anyway someday. I would probably be in my late 20s at the time when sequel releases. And I hope I still love this series.

  • @ClavinZKL
    @ClavinZKL 10 месяцев назад

    can hitogami see thru different worlds? or the one he resides within? (human world)

  • @bearcavepro8832
    @bearcavepro8832 2 года назад +1

    So here's a question I have about Laplace. Which version of Laplace will reincarnate?
    Demon God Laplace? Demon Dragon King Laplace or technique God Laplace?

  • @kennethgonzalbo3328
    @kennethgonzalbo3328 2 года назад +1

    All the while I called it 'Lap Lace', it was supposed to be 'La Plas'.

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад

      He's named after Pierre-Simon Laplace, who was French, so it's pronounced the same as his name.

  • @pigtaku4276
    @pigtaku4276 2 года назад +1

    I feel that the treasure wont manifest until Laplace is made whole

  • @kiracollins257
    @kiracollins257 2 года назад +1

    You should put links when discussing about the video you already made about some topics in the description, like when you discussed about elinalise in this video. I was interested. Then, I cannot find the links in the description. It makes me lose some interest about the topics

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад

      Good point! I normally put cards in the video, but I never really think to link to my own videos in the description... I normally only even write the description for the search engine tbh! I'll try to do better with that in the future!

  • @amartyobasu801
    @amartyobasu801 2 года назад +2

    So laplace turned from a wholesome boy to a crazy edge lord, because he fought a demon. That was some crazy story about puberty!

    • @testaccrun4830
      @testaccrun4830 2 года назад

      So laplace is a protagonist from isekai trash

  • @LionHunter832
    @LionHunter832 2 года назад +1

    I wonder if Orsted will never get what all he needs all he needs to defeat Hitogami

  • @KristopherStoltz
    @KristopherStoltz 2 года назад +1

    This part of the story always confused the hell out of me but I'm glad it's not necessary material to understand. Seems like it will come more into play in the sequel series since at the end of the day, the real bad guy is and will always be hitogami.

  • @Redeadsniffer104
    @Redeadsniffer104 2 года назад +1

    I hope you had a good break, also well come back

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад

      I was mostly sorting stuff out to start streaming, actually! But yes, it was nice to have a more chilled week on the uploads last week after doing all of Old Dragon's Tale so quickly!

    • @Redeadsniffer104
      @Redeadsniffer104 2 года назад +1

      Your going to start streaming, well I have more to look forward too!

  • @Osiris2994
    @Osiris2994 2 года назад

    Trying to make sense all of the paradoxes makes my head hurt

  • @tacitus_
    @tacitus_ 2 года назад +3

    [comment to manipulate algorithm]

  • @kyle2841
    @kyle2841 2 года назад +1

    Are there any side stories about the Demon War?

  • @oversol5469
    @oversol5469 2 года назад +1

    What hint was given that the demon infant might be kisharika?

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад +1

      It's not like, a specific line or anything, it's more that if anyone is likely to be the child of the demon god and Kirisis Calisis, it would make a lot of sense for it to be her.

  • @YukitoOnline
    @YukitoOnline 2 года назад +4

    [Technique God]

  • @thevillainousqueenofhearts4976
    @thevillainousqueenofhearts4976 2 года назад +2

    I do wonder what’s going to happen with his character and if he’ll be in the sequel (if there’s a sequel), cuz I do want him to meet the elf chick again hopefully

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад +1

      Like I said, I reallly want her to be his mom when he's reincarnated for some reason!

    • @thevillainousqueenofhearts4976
      @thevillainousqueenofhearts4976 2 года назад +2

      @@NatalieXHunter because it would bring this weird sense of drama?

    • @thevillainousqueenofhearts4976
      @thevillainousqueenofhearts4976 2 года назад

      That could be why?

    • @udhavbhatia6424
      @udhavbhatia6424 Год назад

      ​@@NatalieXHunterShe would likely be his Grandma as I think Laplace will come from Rudeus bloodline since in this loop he is the diverging factor and is the key needed for Orested to defeat Hitogami.

  • @ragna6410
    @ragna6410 2 года назад +1

    Laplace should have been the Protagonist. So much Potential.

    • @miteigi8334
      @miteigi8334 Год назад +1

      He is the protagonist of Old Dragon's Tales

  • @brivox
    @brivox Год назад

    In mushoku tensei, Orsted mentions the need for a certain individual to survive because their lineage produces Laplace and knowledge of that allows Orsted to kill the child before becoming a powerful adult. It wouldn't make sense for the treasures to be physical objects in this case because he should already know its locations from previous loops. Why wait for him to reincarnate? If the treasure is a physical object than Orsted probobly already has it and wants to kill demon Laplace because he interferes with his more knowledgeable fight (because of looping) with hitogomi.

    • @Learner-qw1ee
      @Learner-qw1ee 11 месяцев назад

      It's probably related to the soul of dragon generals. Tbh there is so much vague stuff. Either LN later volumes or sequel will fix the problem.

  • @Thatonemotherfucker25
    @Thatonemotherfucker25 2 года назад +1

    The dragon god once said that rudeus might be on par with laplace

  • @damiangonzalez1493
    @damiangonzalez1493 6 месяцев назад +1

    Are you going to be doing a redundancy series?

  • @FierDuxt96
    @FierDuxt96 2 года назад +1

    What role Laplace will take in the timeline where Rudo Corp exists?
    Why is the five sacred treasure needed to enter the void world?
    What role Lara will play in the world of Mushoku Tensei that Hitogami is afraid of?
    This all makes me excited for the sequal to Mushoku Tensei!

    • @michaeldmingo1525
      @michaeldmingo1525 2 года назад +1

      Spoiler
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      The sacred treasure is probably the God cores Dragon God gets from killing the other God's maybe even the pieces of Dragon God core.

    • @sharkmanro
      @sharkmanro 2 года назад +2

      @@michaeldmingo1525 it's not even a spoiler, it's just false info. The treasures are the 5 pieces of the OG Dragon God's broken god jewel

  • @victorjacobs4868
    @victorjacobs4868 2 года назад +2

    ♥️

  • @noahert1337
    @noahert1337 2 года назад +2

    Hi Natalie.

  • @azurw1936
    @azurw1936 2 года назад +1

    here is my theory... we know that rudy and roxys daughter needs to find a man... they think a husband but what if its the other half of laplace and when she finds this half is when the demon king laplace comes back to life. and orsted stops demon laplace from being killed and re connects the 2 halfs together. this could also be a way for orsted to find out about the mana crystal ability to be able to use his magic and that is the treasure... the ability to use his magic without fail... the crystals will prob be the way he can teleport to the in-between so the last crystal is prob hidden with his old dragon back in that house somewhere and we get our final battle.. this is just a idea i had....

  • @angrymaninapandamask6432
    @angrymaninapandamask6432 11 месяцев назад +1

    My theory was correct about he being elinalise
    Shame such a kind and sweet girl turned into that women
    I hope laplace sees her again

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  11 месяцев назад

      What I think would be really cool is if his reincarnation is Elinalise's son...

    • @angrymaninapandamask6432
      @angrymaninapandamask6432 11 месяцев назад

      @@NatalieXHunter definitely
      I want him to atleast see her again mabey it will bring back his sanity

  • @dohickey7184
    @dohickey7184 2 года назад +1

    I'm surprised more people don't despise Laplace in general considering just how much stuff is his fault lol

  • @johnash287
    @johnash287 2 года назад +1

    Are you going to read Overlord ? I'm sure it would be a great addition to your channel.
    Can't wait until you start.

    • @ungabunga4651
      @ungabunga4651 2 года назад

      pretty sure not overlord is realy long and one volume will at least 5 hour to 10 hour

    • @rajvirmalhans2073
      @rajvirmalhans2073 2 года назад

      @@ungabunga4651 it’s not that long and she’s working on the series. She did finish all of mushoku tensei which is much longer than overlord. Including side stories

    • @ungabunga4651
      @ungabunga4651 2 года назад

      @@rajvirmalhans2073 she only read it for herself
      i am saying its too long for reading it and recording it

    • @rajvirmalhans2073
      @rajvirmalhans2073 2 года назад

      Ohhh ya that would be for a video and also copyright issues since it’s from Kadokawa. ODT is a web novel story which wouldn’t face that issue

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад

      Yeah I'm not going to read out Overlord or any light novel series due to both copyright issues and length. I will be making videos about Overlord and could potentially read any side stories that aren't officially translated, but I can't read the light novels as that would be basically providing an alternative to a paid product (as in, people could listen to them instead of buying the official books), and that's not legal.

  • @kenshin391
    @kenshin391 Год назад

    Did Hitogami kill the original Human God? Was that the reason why he was able to take his form?

  • @olincekongo
    @olincekongo Месяц назад

    11:00
    14:00
    15:00 ranking system
    15:33 deamon
    15:40
    16:30 deamon war
    17:00 Spears
    [basically aquaman😂]
    18:24
    19:00 19:10
    19:20
    20:00

  • @AhmedKhan3.14
    @AhmedKhan3.14 2 года назад +2

    So is Demon Queen one of the potential antagonist?

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад

      Kishirika? Well, it's hard to say really - she has been helpful to Rudeus throughout Mushoku Tensei but once Laplace is back in the mix what she might do is unpredictable.

  • @WendyAlice1
    @WendyAlice1 2 года назад +1

    So the mention went from kill human God to kill God and or kill humans, what???

  • @eastbow6053
    @eastbow6053 Год назад

    i hope laplace comes back whole, it would be fun if he becomes the protagonist of the sequel 😁 maybe the real human god will appear or some form of a new human god and take their place that the fake void god took

  • @viperstrike0
    @viperstrike0 Год назад

    I think would make sense if Orsted has to kill the other dragon generals, or atleast they have to die. as a sort of poetry for betraying the first dragon god.

  • @VictorLiso
    @VictorLiso 2 года назад +1

    This video wasn't as enjoyable as usual, Nat, though you did make some great points towards the end. I can't say what the problem was, though, it just wasn't as interesting. The only reason I'm saying this is because When it's amazing, I say it. When it isn't, I say it too. Not sure if you already remember my comments at this point, but I wish you'd know that when I compliment your videos, I mean every word of it.

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад

      Fair enough! I mean, you already know all the stuff in the video, so maybe that's why, I don't know.

    • @VictorLiso
      @VictorLiso 2 года назад +1

      @@NatalieXHunter That's probably part of it, but I"ve enjoyed videos with content I knew before. It starts ok, gets kinda boring for most of it, then it gets really interesting in the last five minutes or so. I'd need to watch again to be sure, but it isn't the end of the wordl.
      I just thought that, as a fan, I should also tell you when I don't enjoy your videos as much. Maybe we can discover something that can be improved.

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад

      I think I also had to explain a lot of stuff that I've already talked about before (basically the plot of Old Dragon's Tale) in this one for completeness because not everyone finding this video because they're interested in Laplace will know the story, and naturally recapping a story isn't the most interesting thing you can do as a creator (which is why I don't make episode reviews of anything anymore, half the video ends up being recapping the episode and I sorta hate doing that).

    • @VictorLiso
      @VictorLiso 2 года назад

      @@NatalieXHunter I guess that depends ong style. Some reviewers can avoid that. But yeah, you do a great work your own way.

  • @panzlithium
    @panzlithium 2 года назад +1

    Soooo, Superds... I mean Ruijerd used to have a pretty long tail?

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад +1

      I guess so! His daughter has one when she's born...

  • @rajvirmalhans2073
    @rajvirmalhans2073 2 года назад +1

    Ah so he’s the final boss of mob psycho 100 lol. Joking about the thumbnail. Are all the things mentioned about Laplace in mushoku tensei true or is it propaganda? Is the reincarnation always the same? Like one specific individual becomes Laplace or any person with high Laplace factor(s)? He’s definitely a character that would be good to use talk no jutsu on. Multiple worlds into one world is a trope I have seen in some other series especially isekai. ODT looks like it would be a multiple movie series like Lord of the Rings. Also if Rostalina is Elinalise, I hope she does remember her past at some point. Maybe Elinalise could talk Laplace out of destroying the world and fix Elinalise

  • @ClavinZKL
    @ClavinZKL 10 месяцев назад

    thanks watching the peruguis video still confused me on who laplace and peruguis are.
    in short: peruguis wants to kill demon god laplace cause he killed his friend urupen and orsted needs to kill him (theory) for him to gain an artifact
    i thought he was the same laplace that was a good guy, thats why it confused me but after watching this video i now understand it.
    anyways hope ur doing good rn last time i watched a vid of urs u said u had a breakup and stuff.

  • @IHatoHandels
    @IHatoHandels 2 года назад +1

    I can't explain why but that dress reminds me of Tokyo mew mew

  • @dexterberry1874
    @dexterberry1874 2 года назад +1

    All hail the algorithm.

  • @Kekerek
    @Kekerek 2 года назад +2

    Before listening to the dragon tale:
    I know *nothing*
    After listening to the dragon tale:
    Fuck hitogami
    Before watching this video:
    Pergious should be kissing Laplace's foot and how can they hate the best boy Laplace 😤😤.
    After watching this video:
    Well it makes sense. But can we get whole Laplace for Christmas pretty please? Also fuck Badigadi.

  • @WendyAlice1
    @WendyAlice1 2 года назад +1

    Hmmmm, I wondered why hito gami is named that way, and hear me out cause this might be crazy but he might be another isekaied dude who was a human that transcended and wasan God's experiences of bringing stuff from another world I mean man God endowed the mikos and cursed chilldrrn power but somewhere along the line one moko/cursed child that was formally from another world went and thought to take man God over, wild I know.

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад

      Hitogami is just Japanese for 'man' 'god'. I don't think it has anything to do with Akito's name.

    • @WendyAlice1
      @WendyAlice1 2 года назад

      @@NatalieXHunter I know it is to differentiate man God from hito gami but why name him hitogami or maybe it's not another word for man god, but hito gami as in "that God" cause the word hito can also Mean 'that' with being vague like ano hito that person or something.

    • @testaccrun4830
      @testaccrun4830 2 года назад +1

      @@WendyAlice1 pi believe you should ask that to author himself
      Hitogami itself really confusing especially his name
      As you know his name is hitogami, and man-god if translated into english.
      But the thing is his name written using katakana.
      Katakana usually used for english words
      I dont know why muse use man-god instead than hitogami.
      If hitogami is man-god, his name should be in kanji form

    • @Kilo181
      @Kilo181 Год назад

      @@testaccrun4830 It's written in katakana to differentiate the imposter hitogami versus the original one.

  • @Bezordude
    @Bezordude 2 года назад

    Pretty sure the laplace factor was implanted in elinalise

  • @kyle2841
    @kyle2841 2 года назад +1

    Since he became 2 persons he should be renamed to Ladivided
    *ba dum tss*

  • @prajwalsanjeev2655
    @prajwalsanjeev2655 Год назад

    I have a question though. How could badigadi even with the fighting god armor defeat demo dragon god Laplace? Along with the tens of thousands of years of experience to draw from + him having a piece of the god gem given to him by the 1st dragon god I figured he'd be unbeatable. How did badigadi actually defeat such a person?

    • @goji434
      @goji434 Год назад

      Why? Because the Fighting God armor becomes sentient (autopilot) and can utilize the powers and techniques of Laplace.
      Once the armor is on autopilot mode, it counters everything its opponent throws at it. That's precisely why Laplace was defeated.
      Moreover, the user of that armor is Badigadi, an immortal race capable of regenerating within seconds

    • @prajwalsanjeev2655
      @prajwalsanjeev2655 11 месяцев назад

      Oh damn! Why is that never explained. After reading through old dragon's tale I was shocked to hear that he was defeated by a single demon badigadi.
      So technically badigadi defeated Laplace with lapalaces powers
      Thank you for answering my question my mind is at peace

    • @goji434
      @goji434 11 месяцев назад

      @@prajwalsanjeev2655 I think it was explain in one of the QnAs, I don't remember where though..

  • @ahmedkhaled-rg5vq
    @ahmedkhaled-rg5vq Год назад +1

    So is sylvi a Laplace factor ?

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  Год назад +1

      Yes, she has it, that's why she has green hair. Rudeus also has it, as does their son Sieg. But the Laplace factor normally doesn't do anything except mean someone has certain traits associated with Laplace that they wouldn't genetically have (such as Sylphy's green hair and Rudy's large mana capacity), it just means that one day someone with it will be the vessel for Laplace to reincarnate.

    • @ahmedkhaled-rg5vq
      @ahmedkhaled-rg5vq Год назад

      @@NatalieXHunter thanks for the information 🫡

  • @deltasource56
    @deltasource56 2 года назад +1

    I am Laplace

  • @raymundojrillut6179
    @raymundojrillut6179 2 года назад +1

    I wish the author make Rudy time travel to the future and kick hitogami's ass cuz I want him to get even with him

  • @mayureshdamle7675
    @mayureshdamle7675 2 года назад +2

    Spoler alert:
    Q: Hey in the end of web novel Rudeus had dream of seealing Man god was it truth or just a illusion?

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад +1

      It's probably truth - his grandkid removed the bracelet that stops Hitogami from being able to see him.

  • @Nakama4Forever
    @Nakama4Forever 2 года назад +1

    Haha shill ODT all you want. More people need to hear it. I'll probably listen to it all at least a few more times 😅

  • @raymundojrillut6179
    @raymundojrillut6179 2 года назад +1

    So why osted wants to figth Laplace? And prepare a war to his upcoming revival

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад

      Because when he is reincarnated it will be Demon God Laplace, the one who wants to kill all humans. Plus, Orsted needs the treasures of the dragon generals to access where Hitogami is to kill him, and one of these belongs to Laplace.

  • @Milo_Estobar
    @Milo_Estobar 6 месяцев назад

    Is La+ vtuber related to this Laplace?

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  6 месяцев назад +1

      Laplace was an irl French philosopher/physicist who came up with a thought experiment called 'Laplace's daemon', so his name gets used a lot in fiction because it kinda inspires people when they want to have demons in stuff. A lot of the characters in MT are named after real life scientists. So, although I don't know the vtuber in question, I would guess they're named from the real Laplace rather than being related to MT.

  • @kymbuhkymbuh5279
    @kymbuhkymbuh5279 2 года назад +1

    What it touki .?? If that's how it is spelled

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 года назад

      It's like, well, kinda like The Force haha

  • @fatrown3
    @fatrown3 9 месяцев назад

    Or rather, maybe elainalise is the mother of Technique God Laplace V2. Presumably he retains some of his memories, even if they're twisted like Demon God Laplace's skewed hate toward man god equalling hate for all humans
    Edit: crap. I JUST read most of this series and some of these details had slipped off my brain shelf into an unorganized clutter.

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  9 месяцев назад

      Yeah, that doesn't make much sense tbh lol... Elinalise is an elf and Technique God retains the Dragon race part of Laplace's knowledge of techniques. And he didn't really have a mother, the two (Technique God and Demon God Laplace) split of from Demon Dragon Laplace, who never knew his parents and was born a long time before Rostelina in a different world. Technique God is still alive but reclusive. So Elinalise could be the mother of the reincarnated Demon God Laplace, but not really anything to do with Technique God.