You are the only one online witch make me stop the god dam video 5 times in 10 minutes to take notes about technical stuff. I am actually a student in a photography program and I consider your content as an extra weekly classes. Thanks for this stuff Ken. You fuckin nails it every time. Peace out ✌🏼
Ya know...no matter what anyone's opinion YOU ARE A plethora of not just valid, BUT USEFUL INFORMATION...kinna like a politician talks doodoo and then you say here's the truth. And in such a simple manner......kudos and thank you as always.
I got the D500 after listening to you and a few others, almost a year now with it. My main conclusion was it's a really capable camera, but my other concern was that I didn't want huge files that my computer could barely process. If I want to do a large landscape I'll just take many photos and post process them. I've had better luck with birds and such, was a big move up from the d5100.
hello ken you are one of those miracle people that our world needs more. it maybe irrelevant but i really like to learn more things besides cameras from you. much more important things such as the meaning of life , why do we live , how could you confront , tolerate or handle your wifes death of cancer(though i know it is personal). words cant explain how much i appreciate your effort and honesty you put into your videos. whoever you are , you are honest , and after all thats the only thing that matters. i am a psychiatrist and found your identity, charisma , and character so mature and out of this world.wish you best possible things.though im curious after all these experiences in different aspects of life what your wishes could possibly be . take care , keep on great work ken
I rented a D850 from Murphy's last weekend. It was my first extended use of the camera. The AF was insane; I don't think I had a single out of focus shot all weekend. But, as you say, a much smaller spread than APS-C.
@@KenTheoriaApophasis Yessir. But the Lex store has to get the D850 body sent over from Louisville. Worth it. Killer camera body. Now I gotta go rob a bank so I can buy one...
In addition, the crop sensor cameras only use the optically correct center 50% of a lens. Almost all lenses are less sharp at the edges than at the center. Most full-frame exclusive users tend to forget that fact.
Hi Ken. May I have your opinion please? I am suffering from paralysis by analysis on the FujiFilm cameras. I'm having trouble looking at a Fuji for Nature Landscapes and Wildlife/Birding photography specifically. It gets too expensive too fast if I want more reach than a 55-200MM XF or the 55-230XC. I am trying to convince myself I can just edit/enlarge the Fuji photos (and even the videos) emulating their larger lenses because its for Web production or RUclips publishing. Would that work? Or, would I do better with a used D500 with, for example, a Tamron 18-400mm F/3.5-6.3 Di II VC HLD All-In-One Telephoto Lens or similar lens. Combined they are a similar price as a T-2 with a XF55-200. And would I get more versatility with the Tamron or is it a shit lens... LOL?? This is not easy stuff to figure out. The D500 was recommended several times by other birders and the Tamron lens is not too expensive brand new (I have not looked at refurbished prices yet).
well nikon has most ALL the hardcore glass for wildlife that fuji does NOT have, that much is obvious....... best value for (NOT LANDSCAPES) birding etc, would be a used D500 , 200-500, 300mm f4.... yes yes, tammy 18-400, but thats not my first pick for doing wildlife honestly ......no the tamron is FAR from a shit lens, its made better than the likewise nikkors are.
I like the autofocus coverage in the D500 vs the Nikon Full Frames. If I place the subject towards the edges of the frame I know there is a AF sensor somewhere in the neighborhood. As my eyes get older, this is something I consider. Especially with fast long glass. But I also love the combination of full frame and all the choices of wide angle lenses for the Nikon system. I love the look of my 24mm on full frame. So maybe this isn't a "vs." For this guy, it is a "you need both!" or a "why choose!"
Any opinions on D500 vs D750? Still using my D90 for walk around family shooting. Need to update to something that can also shot indoor volleyball. (Low light action). I'll also need a new walk around lens and sports lens.
Theoria Apophasis, I'm so happy you brought up "autofocus spread" on the D850 because I have a question about this I can't seen to find the answer to. I know the D500 has faster AF, but just in terms of AF spread, wouldn't the D850 have way better AF spread in DX mode than it does in FX mode? So wouldn't that theoretically give you better edge to edge tracking in DX? I know this probably won't make up for the other factors that make the D500 better for AF hit rates, but just in terms of the spread, can the D850 AF tracking work better in DX?
I think I’m the only one shooting a d500 for (gasp wait for it....) portraits! Yes I know the crop factor blah blah blah. Throw an 85 prime on it and you’ll never convince me that a crop can’t shoot a portrait.
Jason Rushing You are not the only one, Jason! I shot over 35 seniors last fall with an x-t2 and my beloved d500. Lots of happy moms! I use a 50mm f1.4 D with my d500. It’s a nice, light combo. I’ll have to try the 85 though.
You can shoot a portrait with lots of things. FF bodies deliver slightly better results than APS-C when comparing results from the same lens, but it's not world-changing or anything. Being able to produce flattering light and getting good facial expressions from your subject are MUCH more important than sensor size when it comes to portraits.
I saw a comment on youtube the other day say you should pick up a Z7 over a D850 because it is "built for the future" and can take CF express cards. People are dumb. Are people picking up cameras just based on what memory cards they take?!? lol
I would to an extent but the d850 is a much better camera. I understand buying the d5 dual xqd over the d5 dual cf but that person is probably a kid. The d850 has a much better buffer than the z7
I’m a beginner photographer, I just recently purchased a NIKON D850 because I’m very serious about getting into photography. I want to learn from the ground up and someday grow it into a business. I recently built a studio in my garage and I’m looking to do a plethora of different types of photography. I need a serious recommendation though. I want to buy about 3 of the best portraits lenses, and 3 of the best lenses for events like weddings and parties. Please reply to this post I’ve watched all your videos but you recommend a lot of different lenses and sometimes I’m a little confused on which ones work the best for which type of situation.
Just because you can afford new equipment doesn’t mean you can use it or it will elevate you in competency over others who don’t. Knowledge of photo art and equipment are not mutually exclusive. My opinion.
I'm seriously considering a D500 for aviation. I use D5 and D4s' for my sports work and both have given me great aviation images BUT I'm having to do large crops, reducing file size. I use a 300mm f2.8 and 400mm f2.8 for my sports. Waving a 400mm f2.8 around is near impossible so opt for the 300mm f2.8 occasionally with the TC-14 MK2 but I'm yet to be convinced with the image quality of this combo. Using a D500 and 300mm f.2 8 would help with the crop factor. I also wonder if a D850 or even a D810 would be a better option but would need to do large crops in post. I've heard such good things about the D500. I already have a spare XQD cards and a D4s/D5 battery for the grip. Sometimes, I with they would update the old D2x and make a pro spec DX body with built in grip and weather seals.
Unless I have good lighting my crop sensor 24 mp D7200 looks mushy and brings less detail than my 16 mp Df full frame. I tested them filling the frame with the Df set at 6400 ISO and the D7200 only at 800 ISO on a cloud covered day. That a 3 stop advantage! When using a 500 or 600mm on a crop, it is not easy to quickly spot a bird flying by fast.
I was looking for something to replace my d750 after getting into for wildlife and needing more reach. Considerd both and almost went for a used D500. Ended up going for a used D850 since it could cover both ends of the spectrum and allow me to get rid of the D750. Yes, I dont have the bottomless buffer but I hardly shoot that many shots without even a short break.
@@cc7942 I respectfully disagree. The size of the spread of AF points is fixed, in crop mode you are basically not using the outer area of the sensor, so you are cutting out the area of the sensor that is not covered by AF points.
I shoot wildlife and use both these cameras depending on the task at hand. The D500 for BIF just can't be beat and I never have buffer issues with it. The D500 does blow out highlights much worse than the D850 as you mentioned. Only thing I can think of to add would be the shutter is way quieter on the D500 and in some cases that matters. But the D850 has the totally silent mode in live view that I use sometimes and its fantastic for really long lens shots at low shutter speeds. Good review Ken.
I really didn't realize just how much louder it was until my Jan trip to Ding Darling and was shooting both one on tripod one on shoulder. Next time I need to schedule my trip better so I might run into you there just missed you apparently this time. Keep up those no BS reviews, someones got to do it! :)
Love it!!! Here is my question, $1000.00 more gets you a D850. Focus spread, if you need it for action, can't you just put the 850 into crop mode? You would have the best of both worlds that way.
I subscribe to you and Steve Perry, and have bought a D850 and D500 on informed decisions by yourselves. Oh, and various lenses as well, and I’m very happy. Thank you.👍
Recently got a D500 for 500$. It’s in incredible shape. Only negative is the shutter has 195k actuations which is no big deal to me. Looking to get the 17-55 later this month 😈
Hi Ken good video on some misconceptions. Need opinion for buying camera for wildlife specially birds, but stuck between d7200 and d500. Except budget ,what major things will be missing on d7200 against d500.With a combo with Nikon 200-500.
Sunit Sharma The weather sealing is better on the D500 and you can customise more buttons when shooting wildlife without taking your eye away from the viewfinder
Ken, I really appreciate how you actually talk about what matters in cameras (pixel pitch and S&N) instead of other people who just talk about wifi and how deep the grip is. I wrote a research paper about how the megapixel wars are basically bullshit these days and u introduced me to many of the concepts I talked about. So all that to say, thank you!
Finally an honest review that I can lean against. Theres nothing stopping those new tubers from becoming "experts" after owning theire first dslr. I myself studied a lot of photography by self study, book collecting, working in dark rooms with conventinal film cameras where you cannot take 20picture series and select the keepers to take credit for. You had to plan the picture. One thing that really bothers me though is people talking about what a fine "bokeh" every lens presents when they actually only are talking about the out of focus background. To me, and from what I learned the bokeh is a completely detailless background from the smeared out background from using meadium formats and cameras with the correct lens, aparture and sensor or shutter opening. The medium formats have a narrower depth of sharpness hence the bokeh, while smaller sensors or shutter openings have higher depth of sharpness and therefore no real bokeh. So with that in mind I would say that a full frame might have an advantage agains cropped. And even more beneficial to have an medium format like hasselblad or mamiya, leaf etc for getting nice bokeh. But all those random youtube experts that claims that they have a nice bokeh with just blurred background details make me almost vomit. Bokeh is an expression that is reserved for really accent an extraordenary visual composition and should not be used for general out of focus backgrounds.. Sorry for going of topic, but it still leaves me with the question regarding your opinion touching the cropped sensor vs field of view and sharpness. I think its harder to achieve a nice bokeh worth its name with a small sensor or even fx sensor. Maybe with a great telephoto with a low apature size. Cheers from sweden
I have said it before but YOU were the reason as to why I purchased the D500 when it first dropped...once I watched that first D500 review, I knew the D500 was the better choice for me rather than the D750! I am waiting on your review of the upcoming D(6) before deciding whether I will purchase it or the D850.
The D7200 is a wonderful camera. while it is not as fast as the D500, it has the most readable top LCD ever with no bullshit on it. Its ergonomics are also quite good. Only downside is the mode dial, I hate those and its my only camera that has it.
Curious as to why professionals would use a 7k series over a 500. Weather sealing, build ruggedness and buffering all favor the 500.
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Would the D500 be good for shooting portraits? I was thinking about getting either a d810 or a d500. I shoot mainly portraits and street. But sometimes I happen to shoot concerts and events also.
I have both D850 and D500 , I never compare them, each has different function. Sport and fast action D500, and others D850. Both are made for especial purpose.
im coming from a d7100, i feel like the d500 will be enough for me,,, what will be the biggest features i would be leaving out if i choose the d500 over the 850 besides the obvious FX
Ken this might be an extremely naive question but if the D850 can be configured into a DX mode (this I assume is software mediated) then couldn’t the software also be adjusted to increase the megapixels available from the 20mp available at the moment?
D500 is quite a bit lighter to carry around. D850 in crop mode is actually slightly less than the D500 at 19 versus 20 megapixels. Mark Smith has been getting some amazing bird images with his D850. I have both cameras. I still have one D800
i know this might be a dumb question but do the still pics taken on the d500 form in 1080 or 4k? i know the d500 can do video in 4k or 1080 but what do the still pictures come out in? 4k or 1080 or can you choose either one?
Hi. I love the chanel. My go to for any photo advice! I shoot a lot of Aviation atm. Im starting to go into wildlife and landscape work too. I will be using the 200-500 f5.6. In terms of final image quality, would you recomend a D850 and then crop the image, or a D500 to avoid the need to crop? I was considering getting a D500 for my aviation work and an older D800 for a dedicated landscape body as I can get both for the same price as a D850 which I think would give me more options. However aviation is my main subject. Looking forward to your advice. Many thanks Curtis
so i was choosing between d500 and d850. an investment. i do a lot of gymnastics. i needed a faster frame rate. i shoot this kind of sports with nikon d750 and i also have a d7000. using 70-200. so the d750 is full frame and the focal range is great for this kind of photography but it only gets 6,5 fps. i tried shooting on d7000, but 70-200 turns to 105-300 and i often would not fit the subject in the frame when she is near me. so i realized i cannot get d500 because it is cropped even making 10 fps. so i went for d850 and i bought original grip and charger and that crazy expensive battery chamber and two original batteries, all of that to get 9 fps and have a full frame body. now i will be ready for the new gymnastics season. expensive investment but sure worth the money.
I always learn something new when I come back through to your videos, Ken. Thank you. I have both and this helps me decide which part of a wedding day I should use which camera for.
Hi. I shoot a lot of aviation especially low flying fast jets. Within my budget I can get A new D500 or a used D4. Either one will be used with the Nikon 200-500 5.6 Which one is going to give the better image quality overall do you think?
I would love to see you do a comparison of the D850 and Sony A9. Which would you get if you were starting new and had no investment in either brand? Are you on board with mirroless?
excellent video and a honest opinion on FX and DX cameras i sold my D3s and bought a D7200 for general photography and now iam thinking of buying a D500 for sports and wildlife photography. thats my main genre of photography. please keep up the honest opinion and gives us good videos. iam from india thanks
As mentioned in a couple of videos stating that the D500 blows the highlights easier than other Nikon cameras of late, has the issue ever stopped an owner of a D500 from getting a shot or perfect result?
have the D500, it is great, with the 17-55 2.8 it is great to do event/ band photoing,thanks for your great videos you are so full of knowledge ! God bless you, al
Ken, all your videos are great and very informative. I love my D500 and have shot everything from landscapes, portraits, and wildlife/ action shots with it. I am going to shoot my first wedding in September. Would you recommend a D850, z7, z6, or another d500 as the second camera with another lens?
store keepers tried to sell me 750,810, 850 but no one mentioned D500. but i waited for 1 month did a full research and D500 was a winner. its so far the best camera i have ever used. i could have bought D850 or D5 but did i really needed that. instead i went for 2 D500 and still had money to buy sweet crisp set of prime lenses & a 70-200. iam expanding my photography business will be buying 4 more of these d500. i shoot fashion, events, weddings and film documentaries and brand commercials. i dnt care about video autofocus(as its a bit crappy honestly)but i prefer manual or use follow focus.
Hey Ken, wanna upgrade from D7100, could you suggest here? I'm pretty confused between d500 and d850. I do portraits, street , product and food photography. Please suggest. Choosing d500 would give me free hand to buy new glass, but I don't wanna miss out the features on d850. Please help me out here.
@@KenTheoriaApophasis yep I got a 70-300 af-s, tokina 100 macro, 50 1.8 and a 17-55 2.8. All four from your recommendation videos and they serve my purpose more than what I can explain. All thanks to you man.
hello. first time commenting. i’d like to know how a 20 mp resolution can be compared to a 45 mp one. i have seen people with a d850 crop a bird that looked too far away and still had incredible detail. i’m an amateur wildlife photographer and i want a d850 for that reason. seems like it’s a way to extend your zooming, so to speak. the person had used a 500mm prime for that bird shot, and the subject was still very far away, but again, after cropping, bam! there it was in glorious detail. blew my mind. it looked as if they had put the lens right up to their face! 🤯
Hi Ken, Thanks for showing the D850 and D500. Now prices are dropping and I am looking for a 2nd body upgrade (replace my D7100) to go along with my D750. The choices I have, buy a D750, or D850 (but low light high iso seems to be not that much better than D750), or D500 with better low light focus than all of the above, better buffer, better high iso than D7100. I use them most for weddings (very crappy light sometimes, hard to get the focus locked on the D750). As far as I can compare, the D500 looks the best option to me, what do you think? Do you think Nikon will update the D750 as the D6 is already announced? Looking forward to your view on this, thanks! Greetings, Faizel
I have both D7100 and D500, both great cameras, thanks for your advice on the D500 way back which helped me decide to buy it, works a treat as you well know. Peace out ...
I appreciate the long video. I love gaining knowledge especially before buying. I wish I spent different before I bought my d610 and the 28mm nikkor. Keep dropping the dimes and I will spend the dollars 🙏🏾.
Do you think the D850 should have had IBIS or is it more problematic than beneficial? As in, is it worth it or does it just introduce more things that could go wrong?
I got D850 in last november. I gotta ask you Ken, how much typical RAW full size shots do you get with single battery charge with D850? (AF ON, VR ON, Bluetooth and WiFi OFF, since I am asking typical shots range whatever ISOs u shoot with)? I am getting ~450 and not so good Nikon Service center, here in Pune India tells me, thats what you should expect, also they tell me where did you check 1840 shot rating? They dont know what Nikon has rated. After 1 day they tell me 1840 shot rating is for JPEG, I am like w*f? I told them all people with D850 are getting more than 1000 shots. Please check with Nikon.
@@KenTheoriaApophasis Okay I am currently on budget and cannot get extra battery and battery grip, also my usage doesn't need those much. I am surprised by Nikon Service Center denying that 500-600 shots with conditions described by me is not a problem.
@@anuragdaware1981 i had the same problem with my D810, the dealers sometimes changing the original battery that comes with Nikon body, i got a new battery from Nikon authorized dealer.. problem solved.. problem with fake batteries is that they will destroy your camera software and performance too..
Greetings!! First of all, thanks for such a good review. I am considered an advance amateur photographer who left this hobby a few years ago (imagine, my last camera was a Nikon D200!!). Now that my kids are into sports (basketball, karate and soccer)I want to get a good equipment and never miss a special moment. Now, I’m struggling on getting my new rig!! I want to stick to Nikon, since I have a few glasses (dx format). But for my purpose, do you think I should get the D500 or should I move to the FX format? My budget is around 5k, and I want to get a camera not too old. An advice will be appreciated...
D850 is the best of both worlds for me. If I can get close enough, I get a glorious 45MP image. If not, I crop down and get the same output I'd get with the D500. Wish the D850 was a bit lighter, but that's about it. Also, one really nice feature with the D850 is being able to use EFCS and Qc mode together. I've found this enables me to get good results with the flaky VR (at slow shutter speeds) on the PF lenses. Thinking a bit more about this....I'd say if you only want one, do-it-all camera, get the D850. However, if you want the best of both worlds, just get them both. I see the D500 is available gray market for a little over $1100. The new APS MILC, the Z50, is just as much with the FTZ adapter, and it severely lacks features. Funny how the "older" cameras are still a lot better than Nikon's ML offerings.
d500 faster af may be irrelevant even for sport shooting with 200mm - your target will be, say, ~20m away, you shoot at f8 and your hyperfocal distance will be 5m, just keep the subject in frame, it should be all in focus any time... buffer depth is the only advantage left (vs. 4 extra Mpixels)
@@andreik3096 I rarely shoot sports at f/8... love the 2.8 bokeh, avoids poles coming out of people's heads and other unwanted background issues... plus, faster shutter speed for stopping action better. The only time I lower that f/stop is when I want more depth of field or need a slower shutter, like panning in track and field or other intentional motion blur effects.
One problem with T-S lens is that you really need a tripod, and most of the time people do not want to carry a tripod. I get better results making a panoramas with a medium telephoto lens, which has less barrel distortion than a wide angle. I use my 70-200 the most for panorama shots, which I roll into portrait mode.
When you said wildlife photographer, I immediately guessed Steve Perry. Such a good guy and a really good mentor.
SidewindeR he is!
Same here. Steve is a household name for wildlife photo shoots.
You are the only one online witch make me stop the god dam video 5 times in 10 minutes to take notes about technical stuff. I am actually a student in a photography program and I consider your content as an extra weekly classes. Thanks for this stuff Ken. You fuckin nails it every time. Peace out ✌🏼
extra weekly class ROFL ROFL
Ya know...no matter what anyone's opinion YOU ARE A plethora of not just valid, BUT USEFUL INFORMATION...kinna like a politician talks doodoo and then you say here's the truth. And in such a simple manner......kudos and thank you as always.
I got the D500 after listening to you and a few others, almost a year now with it. My main conclusion was it's a really capable camera, but my other concern was that I didn't want huge files that my computer could barely process. If I want to do a large landscape I'll just take many photos and post process them. I've had better luck with birds and such, was a big move up from the d5100.
Love my D500, just ordered a 16-80 lens on your recommendation from Robert’s. Keep on telling us the truth
Doesn't that lens suck?
hello ken
you are one of those miracle people that our world needs more.
it maybe irrelevant but i really like to learn more things besides cameras from you.
much more important things such as the meaning of life , why do we live , how could you confront , tolerate or handle your wifes death of cancer(though i know it is personal).
words cant explain how much i appreciate your effort and honesty you put into your videos.
whoever you are , you are honest , and after all thats the only thing that matters.
i am a psychiatrist and found your identity, charisma , and character so mature and out of this world.wish you best possible things.though im curious after all these experiences in different aspects of life what your wishes could possibly be .
take care , keep on great work ken
D850+D500 the dynamic duo of DSLR photography! The best of both worlds...
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As always - your videos have the best and most brutal honesty! Love my D500 to this day and thank you
I would never let my D500 go for $1100. I would dig a hole in my back yard and bury it first.
I bought it new for 1600 in December 2017 so I guess that's not a bad price
You could get some cool macro dirt photos in the process ^^
Live videos of worms going by
I found a 16-80 bundled with a d500 in 9+ condition at b+h for 1447.50
I rented a D850 from Murphy's last weekend. It was my first extended use of the camera. The AF was insane; I don't think I had a single out of focus shot all weekend. But, as you say, a much smaller spread than APS-C.
at Murphys ehhh!!
@@KenTheoriaApophasis Yessir. But the Lex store has to get the D850 body sent over from Louisville. Worth it. Killer camera body. Now I gotta go rob a bank so I can buy one...
still with my D500 love it (Im back from vacation too man lots of your videos to catch up on)
In addition, the crop sensor cameras only use the optically correct center 50% of a lens. Almost all lenses are less sharp at the edges than at the center. Most full-frame exclusive users tend to forget that fact.
Hi Ken. May I have your opinion please? I am suffering from paralysis by analysis on the FujiFilm cameras. I'm having trouble looking at a Fuji for Nature Landscapes and Wildlife/Birding photography specifically. It gets too expensive too fast if I want more reach than a 55-200MM XF or the 55-230XC. I am trying to convince myself I can just edit/enlarge the Fuji photos (and even the videos) emulating their larger lenses because its for Web production or RUclips publishing. Would that work? Or, would I do better with a used D500 with, for example, a Tamron 18-400mm F/3.5-6.3 Di II VC HLD All-In-One Telephoto Lens or similar lens. Combined they are a similar price as a T-2 with a XF55-200. And would I get more versatility with the Tamron or is it a shit lens... LOL?? This is not easy stuff to figure out. The D500 was recommended several times by other birders and the Tamron lens is not too expensive brand new (I have not looked at refurbished prices yet).
well nikon has most ALL the hardcore glass for wildlife that fuji does NOT have, that much is obvious....... best value for (NOT LANDSCAPES) birding etc, would be a used D500 , 200-500, 300mm f4.... yes yes, tammy 18-400, but thats not my first pick for doing wildlife honestly ......no the tamron is FAR from a shit lens, its made better than the likewise nikkors are.
@@KenTheoriaApophasis thx!
I like the autofocus coverage in the D500 vs the Nikon Full Frames. If I place the subject towards the edges of the frame I know there is a AF sensor somewhere in the neighborhood. As my eyes get older, this is something I consider. Especially with fast long glass. But I also love the combination of full frame and all the choices of wide angle lenses for the Nikon system. I love the look of my 24mm on full frame. So maybe this isn't a "vs." For this guy, it is a "you need both!" or a "why choose!"
Any opinions on D500 vs D750? Still using my D90 for walk around family shooting. Need to update to something that can also shot indoor volleyball. (Low light action). I'll also need a new walk around lens and sports lens.
Thank you for the brutal honesty! I am now convinced full frames are better 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Theoria Apophasis, I'm so happy you brought up "autofocus spread" on the D850 because I have a question about this I can't seen to find the answer to. I know the D500 has faster AF, but just in terms of AF spread, wouldn't the D850 have way better AF spread in DX mode than it does in FX mode? So wouldn't that theoretically give you better edge to edge tracking in DX? I know this probably won't make up for the other factors that make the D500 better for AF hit rates, but just in terms of the spread, can the D850 AF tracking work better in DX?
Good point
I think I’m the only one shooting a d500 for (gasp wait for it....) portraits! Yes I know the crop factor blah blah blah. Throw an 85 prime on it and you’ll never convince me that a crop can’t shoot a portrait.
Jason Rushing You are not the only one, Jason! I shot over 35 seniors last fall with an x-t2 and my beloved d500. Lots of happy moms! I use a 50mm f1.4 D with my d500. It’s a nice, light combo. I’ll have to try the 85 though.
You can shoot a portrait with lots of things. FF bodies deliver slightly better results than APS-C when comparing results from the same lens, but it's not world-changing or anything. Being able to produce flattering light and getting good facial expressions from your subject are MUCH more important than sensor size when it comes to portraits.
One year ago I upgraded to d500 from a d7000 on your recommendation, never looked back
I saw a comment on youtube the other day say you should pick up a Z7 over a D850 because it is "built for the future" and can take CF express cards. People are dumb. Are people picking up cameras just based on what memory cards they take?!? lol
I would to an extent but the d850 is a much better camera. I understand buying the d5 dual xqd over the d5 dual cf but that person is probably a kid. The d850 has a much better buffer than the z7
2:30 - why are they identical in megapixels? i'm confused. How does cropping making them the same? thanks
the d850 has a cropped mode that is zoomed in and that mode is 20 megapixels while that's just how the d500 is built with the smaller sensor
@@dovahchick yeah makes sense. i'm new to cameras. thanks.
I love this channel, no beating the bushes, no BS, only real substance !
I'm one who probably asked a number of times about d850 vs d500 - thanks for this video - focus spread - cool! will check it out. As always Thank you!
I’m a beginner photographer, I just recently purchased a NIKON D850 because I’m very serious about getting into photography. I want to learn from the ground up and someday grow it into a business. I recently built a studio in my garage and I’m looking to do a plethora of different types of photography. I need a serious recommendation though. I want to buy about 3 of the best portraits lenses, and 3 of the best lenses for events like weddings and parties. Please reply to this post I’ve watched all your videos but you recommend a lot of different lenses and sometimes I’m a little confused on which ones work the best for which type of situation.
Just because you can afford new equipment doesn’t mean you can use it or it will elevate you in competency over others who don’t. Knowledge of photo art and equipment are not mutually exclusive. My opinion.
I'm seriously considering a D500 for aviation. I use D5 and D4s' for my sports work and both have given me great aviation images BUT I'm having to do large crops, reducing file size. I use a 300mm f2.8 and 400mm f2.8 for my sports. Waving a 400mm f2.8 around is near impossible so opt for the 300mm f2.8 occasionally with the TC-14 MK2 but I'm yet to be convinced with the image quality of this combo. Using a D500 and 300mm f.2 8 would help with the crop factor. I also wonder if a D850 or even a D810 would be a better option but would need to do large crops in post. I've heard such good things about the D500. I already have a spare XQD cards and a D4s/D5 battery for the grip. Sometimes, I with they would update the old D2x and make a pro spec DX body with built in grip and weather seals.
Unless I have good lighting my crop sensor 24 mp D7200 looks mushy and brings less detail than my 16 mp Df full frame. I tested them filling the frame with the Df set at 6400 ISO and the D7200 only at 800 ISO on a cloud covered day. That a 3 stop advantage! When using a 500 or 600mm on a crop, it is not easy to quickly spot a bird flying by fast.
I’ve noticed the highlight blow out with the D500 doing aviation photography with white planes. For birds never been an issue.
Ken love your videos so honest and accurate compared with so many RUclips channels and my D500 is favourite dslr.
I have a D850 and I just bought a D500 for sports and wildlife. I love the 850 and looking forward to using the 500.
I was looking for something to replace my d750 after getting into for wildlife and needing more reach. Considerd both and almost went for a used D500. Ended up going for a used D850 since it could cover both ends of the spectrum and allow me to get rid of the D750. Yes, I dont have the bottomless buffer but I hardly shoot that many shots without even a short break.
Would the autofocus spread be the same for both cameras, if D850 is used in crop mode?
The answer is no. You are basically cropping the image like you would do in post when you shoot in crop mode.
@@cc7942 I respectfully disagree. The size of the spread of AF points is fixed, in crop mode you are basically not using the outer area of the sensor, so you are cutting out the area of the sensor that is not covered by AF points.
I shoot wildlife and use both these cameras depending on the task at hand. The D500 for BIF just can't be beat and I never have buffer issues with it. The D500 does blow out highlights much worse than the D850 as you mentioned. Only thing I can think of to add would be the shutter is way quieter on the D500 and in some cases that matters. But the D850 has the totally silent mode in live view that I use sometimes and its fantastic for really long lens shots at low shutter speeds. Good review Ken.
thats cause the D850 is alllllllllll magnesium chassis and the shutter rings the body :)
I really didn't realize just how much louder it was until my Jan trip to Ding Darling and was shooting both one on tripod one on shoulder. Next time I need to schedule my trip better so I might run into you there just missed you apparently this time. Keep up those no BS reviews, someones got to do it! :)
Wouldn’t you say the d850 is better for portrait? Thanks for a grest channel.
My first dslr camera Nikon 780 or D500. Thanks I love your straight forward attitude..ps. If you haven’t reviewed it please do.
how do the two compare on low light sports? Nighttime sports like HS football etc?
Love it!!! Here is my question, $1000.00 more gets you a D850. Focus spread, if you need it for action, can't you just put the 850 into crop mode? You would have the best of both worlds that way.
I subscribe to you and Steve Perry, and have bought a D850 and D500 on informed decisions by yourselves. Oh, and various lenses as well, and I’m very happy. Thank you.👍
bless U :P
Same! except 15-30 G2 instead of d500
Recently got a D500 for 500$. It’s in incredible shape. Only negative is the shutter has 195k actuations which is no big deal to me. Looking to get the 17-55 later this month 😈
Hi Ken good video on some misconceptions. Need opinion for buying camera for wildlife specially birds, but stuck between d7200 and d500. Except budget ,what major things will be missing on d7200 against d500.With a combo with Nikon 200-500.
Sunit Sharma D500 4K UHD video at up to 30p (3840x2160). D7200 1080p60
@@michaelfuller8940 Thanks for replying. It means except without video and fast shutter speed there isn't much difference.
Sunit Sharma The weather sealing is better on the D500 and you can customise more buttons when shooting wildlife without taking your eye away from the viewfinder
I’ve got a d7200 but am now looking to get a d500 for the far better af system and frame rate...I shoot sports/wildlife
Ken, I really appreciate how you actually talk about what matters in cameras (pixel pitch and S&N) instead of other people who just talk about wifi and how deep the grip is. I wrote a research paper about how the megapixel wars are basically bullshit these days and u introduced me to many of the concepts I talked about. So all that to say, thank you!
Finally an honest review that I can lean against. Theres nothing stopping those new tubers from becoming "experts" after owning theire first dslr. I myself studied a lot of photography by self study, book collecting, working in dark rooms with conventinal film cameras where you cannot take 20picture series and select the keepers to take credit for. You had to plan the picture. One thing that really bothers me though is people talking about what a fine "bokeh" every lens presents when they actually only are talking about the out of focus background. To me, and from what I learned the bokeh is a completely detailless background from the smeared out background from using meadium formats and cameras with the correct lens, aparture and sensor or shutter opening. The medium formats have a narrower depth of sharpness hence the bokeh, while smaller sensors or shutter openings have higher depth of sharpness and therefore no real bokeh. So with that in mind I would say that a full frame might have an advantage agains cropped. And even more beneficial to have an medium format like hasselblad or mamiya, leaf etc for getting nice bokeh. But all those random youtube experts that claims that they have a nice bokeh with just blurred background details make me almost vomit. Bokeh is an expression that is reserved for really accent an extraordenary visual composition and should not be used for general out of focus backgrounds.. Sorry for going of topic, but it still leaves me with the question regarding your opinion touching the cropped sensor vs field of view and sharpness. I think its harder to achieve a nice bokeh worth its name with a small sensor or even fx sensor. Maybe with a great telephoto with a low apature size.
Cheers from sweden
I have D800 and D3. Think of trading the D800 to get the D500. I shoot mainly wedding photography. What is your suggestions?
I have said it before but YOU were the reason as to why I purchased the D500 when it first dropped...once I watched that first D500 review, I knew the D500 was the better choice for me rather than the D750! I am waiting on your review of the upcoming D(6) before deciding whether I will purchase it or the D850.
i doubt the D6 will drop before late this year
Theoria Apophasis No worries...I can wait...it’s going to take a hot minute to save up $7000 any way...in the mean time, my D4S will hold me over!
The D7200 is a wonderful camera. while it is not as fast as the D500, it has the most readable top LCD ever with no bullshit on it. Its ergonomics are also quite good. Only downside is the mode dial, I hate those and its my only camera that has it.
Curious as to why professionals would use a 7k series over a 500. Weather sealing, build ruggedness and buffering all favor the 500.
Would the D500 be good for shooting portraits? I was thinking about getting either a d810 or a d500. I shoot mainly portraits and street. But sometimes I happen to shoot concerts and events also.
Whats best for %50-50 lansscape and wildlife ? Looking to upgrade from a3400 ive had since release 24mp
I have both D850 and D500 , I never compare them, each has different function. Sport and fast action D500, and others D850. Both are made for especial purpose.
im coming from a d7100, i feel like the d500 will be enough for me,,, what will be the biggest features i would be leaving out if i choose the d500 over the 850 besides the obvious FX
well I was on the fence between the D850 and the D500 (I currently shoot with the D610). You made up my mind.. D500 to go with my 200-500! Thanks!!
Ken this might be an extremely naive question but if the D850 can be configured into a DX mode (this I assume is software mediated) then couldn’t the software also be adjusted to increase the megapixels available from the 20mp available at the moment?
D500 is quite a bit lighter to carry around. D850 in crop mode is actually slightly less than the D500 at 19 versus 20 megapixels. Mark Smith has been getting some amazing bird images with his D850. I have both cameras. I still have one D800
i know this might be a dumb question but do the still pics taken on the d500 form in 1080 or 4k? i know the d500 can do video in 4k or 1080 but what do the still pictures come out in? 4k or 1080 or can you choose either one?
how about for beauty pageants and fashion shows? d500 or d850?
tony richardson would advise you to get a phase one (and some stupid tatoos) :-P
I enjoy your show stating the facts. I own a d500. I needed to review your information so I would not purchase the d850. THANK YOU.
Hi. I love the chanel. My go to for any photo advice!
I shoot a lot of Aviation atm. Im starting to go into wildlife and landscape work too.
I will be using the 200-500 f5.6. In terms of final image quality, would you recomend a D850 and then crop the image, or a D500 to avoid the need to crop?
I was considering getting a D500 for my aviation work and an older D800 for a dedicated landscape body as I can get both for the same price as a D850 which I think would give me more options. However aviation is my main subject.
Looking forward to your advice. Many thanks
Curtis
so i was choosing between d500 and d850. an investment. i do a lot of gymnastics. i needed a faster frame rate. i shoot this kind of sports with nikon d750 and i also have a d7000. using 70-200. so the d750 is full frame and the focal range is great for this kind of photography but it only gets 6,5 fps. i tried shooting on d7000, but 70-200 turns to 105-300 and i often would not fit the subject in the frame when she is near me. so i realized i cannot get d500 because it is cropped even making 10 fps. so i went for d850 and i bought original grip and charger and that crazy expensive battery chamber and two original batteries, all of that to get 9 fps and have a full frame body. now i will be ready for the new gymnastics season. expensive investment but sure worth the money.
I always learn something new when I come back through to your videos, Ken. Thank you. I have both and this helps me decide which part of a wedding day I should use which camera for.
Love my D850. I use it for portrait mostly with my tamron 70-200 g2 and xplor 600 pro. ❤️
Hi. I shoot a lot of aviation especially low flying fast jets.
Within my budget I can get A new D500 or a used D4.
Either one will be used with the Nikon 200-500 5.6
Which one is going to give the better image quality overall do you think?
Refurb's on D7500 going for 599.00 right now. Great deal!
For a step up from D750 (mostly landscape and some wildlife), would you say a used D810 and a used D500, or a D850?
I would love to see you do a comparison of the D850 and Sony A9. Which would you get if you were starting new and had no investment in either brand? Are you on board with mirroless?
Nikon D500 vs D750 for general porpose? especially urban / social photography ???
D750
excellent video and a honest opinion on FX and DX cameras i sold my D3s and bought a D7200 for general photography and now iam thinking of buying a D500 for sports and wildlife photography. thats my main genre of photography. please keep up the honest opinion and gives us good videos. iam from india thanks
I'm using D850 and D500
As mentioned in a couple of videos stating that the D500 blows the highlights easier than other Nikon cameras of late, has the issue ever stopped an owner of a D500 from getting a shot or perfect result?
Any recommendations to for upgrading from a D3300 for nightscape and landscape? Currently considering going with a second hand D600 or D700. Thanks!
have the D500, it is great, with the 17-55 2.8 it is great to do event/ band photoing,thanks for your great videos you are so full of knowledge ! God bless you, al
Yes. I cancelled my Z6 order based on your z7 scathing review. Thanks for that.
Why? Did Ken review in his hands the Z6 or Z7? The AF on the Z series was just updated and is up on the D850 level. You missed out.
Which one would be better for telephoto concert photography, I've seen the isos are pretty comparable, a least for the price
Ken, all your videos are great and very informative. I love my D500 and have shot everything from landscapes, portraits, and wildlife/ action shots with it. I am going to shoot my first wedding in September. Would you recommend a D850, z7, z6, or another d500 as the second camera with another lens?
most certainly from your info the D850
store keepers tried to sell me 750,810, 850 but no one mentioned D500. but i waited for 1 month did a full research and D500 was a winner. its so far the best camera i have ever used. i could have bought D850 or D5 but did i really needed that. instead i went for 2 D500 and still had money to buy sweet crisp set of prime lenses & a 70-200. iam expanding my photography business will be buying 4 more of these d500. i shoot fashion, events, weddings and film documentaries and brand commercials. i dnt care about video autofocus(as its a bit crappy honestly)but i prefer manual or use follow focus.
fashion and events, and weddings, ....... D850 is the better choice of all of those.
Loving your channel, thanks. Can I ask a stupid question? - what are the little bits of rope on your cameras for please?
Thanks for helping me to decide on the Wright camera for me.
I own both FX and DX cameras. Not ready for a mirrorless camera yet.
Hey Ken, wanna upgrade from D7100, could you suggest here? I'm pretty confused between d500 and d850. I do portraits, street , product and food photography. Please suggest. Choosing d500 would give me free hand to buy new glass, but I don't wanna miss out the features on d850. Please help me out here.
ahhhhhhhh, from what you said you do the D850...... you have some Nikon glass already dont you?
@@KenTheoriaApophasis yep I got a 70-300 af-s, tokina 100 macro, 50 1.8 and a 17-55 2.8. All four from your recommendation videos and they serve my purpose more than what I can explain. All thanks to you man.
hello. first time commenting. i’d like to know how a 20 mp resolution can be compared to a 45 mp one. i have seen people with a d850 crop a bird that looked too far away and still had incredible detail. i’m an amateur wildlife photographer and i want a d850 for that reason. seems like it’s a way to extend your zooming, so to speak. the person had used a 500mm prime for that bird shot, and the subject was still very far away, but again, after cropping, bam! there it was in glorious detail. blew my mind. it looked as if they had put the lens right up to their face! 🤯
same photosite density of D500, the D850
Theoria Apophasis i will google that term, which i had never heard of. thanks for your time! ✌🏼
Hi Ken,
Thanks for showing the D850 and D500. Now prices are dropping and I am looking for a 2nd body upgrade (replace my D7100) to go along with my D750. The choices I have, buy a D750, or D850 (but low light high iso seems to be not that much better than D750), or D500 with better low light focus than all of the above, better buffer, better high iso than D7100. I use them most for weddings (very crappy light sometimes, hard to get the focus locked on the D750). As far as I can compare, the D500 looks the best option to me, what do you think? Do you think Nikon will update the D750 as the D6 is already announced? Looking forward to your view on this, thanks!
Greetings,
Faizel
I have both D7100 and D500, both great cameras, thanks for your advice on the D500 way back which helped me decide to buy it, works a treat as you well know. Peace out ...
Do you love the d500 for portraits? I have d7100 and could get the d500 if it's better for portraits.
What would you recommend for a tattooer, photographing freshly done tattoos? As far as a camera and lens.
D750+35 1.8 and 50 1.8
you dont need speed at ALL, for realllllly realllly cheap a D610 and a 60mm 2.8 D series AF macro
iPhone?
Theoria Apophasis thank you
Ken so a DX with a 50 MPS would pup on all other cameras?
at some point pixel shift will be a standard feature on all mirrorless aps-c
Any info on the D760 Rumors other than the rumor it self.
none,
I actually wanted a tilt shift lens but it's way too expensive and out of my budget LOL... any recommendation for cheaper ones? 🙂
I appreciate the long video. I love gaining knowledge especially before buying. I wish I spent different before I bought my d610 and the 28mm nikkor. Keep dropping the dimes and I will spend the dollars 🙏🏾.
Do you think the D850 should have had IBIS or is it more problematic than beneficial? As in, is it worth it or does it just introduce more things that could go wrong?
photogs dont need IBIS, not a single one.
I'm trading my fujifilm xt3 with the nikon d500. What do you think ken? 😬
Glad you're back mate.
me too
At Christmas this year I’m getting the D500 to shoot the hummingbirds visiting my balcony every day.
Oh my gawd, upgraded videos to 1080p, im like "why can i see details on your head?" thought my eyes became better LOL
Thanks after listening i am happy to have both D500 D850 only lens i have to purchase of Nikkon
I got D850 in last november.
I gotta ask you Ken, how much typical RAW full size shots do you get with single battery charge with D850? (AF ON, VR ON, Bluetooth and WiFi OFF, since I am asking typical shots range whatever ISOs u shoot with)?
I am getting ~450 and not so good Nikon Service center, here in Pune India tells me, thats what you should expect, also they tell me where did you check 1840 shot rating?
They dont know what Nikon has rated. After 1 day they tell me 1840 shot rating is for JPEG, I am like w*f?
I told them all people with D850 are getting more than 1000 shots. Please check with Nikon.
well i use a vertical grip on the D850 with the huuuuuuge ENEL18b battery, thats the best route and a higher CH rate and less blackout :)
@@KenTheoriaApophasis Okay I am currently on budget and cannot get extra battery and battery grip, also my usage doesn't need those much.
I am surprised by Nikon Service Center denying that 500-600 shots with conditions described by me is not a problem.
@@anuragdaware1981 i had the same problem with my D810, the dealers sometimes changing the original battery that comes with Nikon body, i got a new battery from Nikon authorized dealer.. problem solved.. problem with fake batteries is that they will destroy your camera software and performance too..
I get close to 2000 on wedding days. I do have the Nikon batteries. They work great so I only use two a day!
For macro photography, which one would you recommend?
either would be perfect for macro
Greetings!! First of all, thanks for such a good review. I am considered an advance amateur photographer who left this hobby a few years ago (imagine, my last camera was a Nikon D200!!). Now that my kids are into sports (basketball, karate and soccer)I want to get a good equipment and never miss a special moment. Now, I’m struggling on getting my new rig!! I want to stick to Nikon, since I have a few glasses (dx format). But for my purpose, do you think I should get the D500 or should I move to the FX format? My budget is around 5k, and I want to get a camera not too old. An advice will be appreciated...
I would get the D500 which leaves some money for decent glass
Thanks !!
D850 is the best of both worlds for me. If I can get close enough, I get a glorious 45MP image. If not, I crop down and get the same output I'd get with the D500. Wish the D850 was a bit lighter, but that's about it. Also, one really nice feature with the D850 is being able to use EFCS and Qc mode together. I've found this enables me to get good results with the flaky VR (at slow shutter speeds) on the PF lenses.
Thinking a bit more about this....I'd say if you only want one, do-it-all camera, get the D850. However, if you want the best of both worlds, just get them both. I see the D500 is available gray market for a little over $1100. The new APS MILC, the Z50, is just as much with the FTZ adapter, and it severely lacks features. Funny how the "older" cameras are still a lot better than Nikon's ML offerings.
Nikon 7200 and Nikon 200 500 lens. Great combo for under two grand. I honestly would rather spend money on good glass than expensive camera bodies
d500 faster af may be irrelevant even for sport shooting with 200mm - your target will be, say, ~20m away, you shoot at f8 and your hyperfocal distance will be 5m, just keep the subject in frame, it should be all in focus any time... buffer depth is the only advantage left (vs. 4 extra Mpixels)
@@andreik3096 I rarely shoot sports at f/8... love the 2.8 bokeh, avoids poles coming out of people's heads and other unwanted background issues... plus, faster shutter speed for stopping action better. The only time I lower that f/stop is when I want more depth of field or need a slower shutter, like panning in track and field or other intentional motion blur effects.
One problem with T-S lens is that you really need a tripod, and most of the time people do not want to carry a tripod. I get better results making a panoramas with a medium telephoto lens, which has less barrel distortion than a wide angle. I use my 70-200 the most for panorama shots, which I roll into portrait mode.
quality costs time
love you videos mate. Im thinking Nikon d500 is the camera for me. Your videos have really helped. Cheers.
You never talk about what's better for portraits especially lit ones.
What grip do you suggest for the D500?
the real nikon one
@@KenTheoriaApophasis thanks. Good to know!