Race Sim Engineering - Fanatec CSL Pedals Mod Kit Review
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- My review of the Fanatec CSL pedals mod kit from Race Sim Engineering.
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Thanks for the review Karl! Appreciate the feedback and honesty!
Just to address a few comments, firstly the material is all 304 stainless steel so nice and strong. The first batch was UK shipping only while I trialled a few international shipping options. Once the next batch is made on June 10th, they will be available internationally.
Regarding the clutch spring, unfortunately I had a supply issue with the original thumb nuts which had a bigger section to capture the spring which I can't get anymore. While this isn't an issue once installed properly and the spring is under compression, I can see that this can be improved. To remedy this I'll 3D print some seats for them for the next batch on June 10th.
For the accelerator springs, the red spring is more for people that run longer endurance races and may find it fatiguing after a while. I will also look into adding an optional stiffer spring for people that do want that extra stiffness, however most people seem to find the black spring comfortable especially when wearing socks instead of shoes.
I'll also look at what I can do for the getting more weight from the clutch while keeping the pressure plate feeling, this may be as simple as using a stiffer spring, so I'll look into that. Although just to note that in the top hole (with the most bite point feeling), the pedal is still around 40% stiffer than standard.
Cheers,
Rob
No problem mate, I'll pin this for viewers to see :)
Can you mount one of this kit on the brake pedal that doesn't have the loadcell? To make it somehow loadcell braking?
@@snippidippi No, buy a load cell....
Hi, I have issues with my legs and cannot have what others would consider low stiff pedals. I was wondering if the accelerator preload mod can be used in the break, just for a feeling sensation.
@@Psychoh90you might want to look at the 3Drap mod for the standard brake pedal. I haven't used it but it is supposed to be more intuitive than the factory foam from fanatec
I really enjoyed this video. The technical insights of the clutch pedal were a nice touch and made me understand better what I need to be looking for
Glad it was helpful!
Your videos are awesome mate. Gradually watching them all. Love the way the currency you use is “Notes”. Took a while to explain this to the wife. Also I’ll be using your discount code to order at GT Omega Titan once they’re back in stock.
You will love the Titan I ordered one as well to play ACC and GT7 love it.
I forget sometimes my UK slang is not always initially understood around the globe! lol Glad you find my video's helpful mate :)
Titan is a solid little rig you'll be very happy with it!
@@KarlGosling @Forbiddenracer The Playseat Trophy is attractive, but at over £500, as you stated in your review, it is overpriced. It would be an option to consider if it began with a 3.
I got the one for the accelerator pedal, and I have to say it actually feels much better. It's a rather different type of feel than 'just harder to press down' imo and for me I prefer a bit stiffer feel so this was perfect for me. Thanks!
Ah sounds great mate.
It's a nice kit for what it is, but I'd expect some sort of locators to keep the clutch spring in place. Especially at £90... If they make some modifications such as what you've suggested, I may pick them up down the line as they look the bollocks when installed.
Great vid as always, Karl. You've been very helpful for me in picking my next set of gear and for the mods I had on my old G29 setup (with TrueBrake and GT Lite cockpit). I've already got my Fanatec CSL Pedals with Loadcell kit and my Mclaren GT3 wheel. My CSL DD is in the post and my SimHound chassis is on order. Can't wait...
The DD is amazing. Ive only the 5nm, but its still very strong when using custom feedback profiles. The McGT3 wheel is also amazing (best for the $ hands down), but I also picked up the 200$ WRC round wheel which is important to have, because many cars just aint proper to drive with the bowtie. They have a 120$ round wheel thats all black, but otherwise the same as the WRC wheel, I would highly recomend.
A sub woofer and transducer are huge upgrades for the $ if you can be noisy where you live. Used subwoofers are a dime a dozen, but buttkickers and other transducers are harder to find a deal on.
@@gasracing4000 I have 2 Dayton audio transducers currently that I had on the GT Lite, 1 front and 1 back. Looking to upgrade to four on the new rig to simulate the four corners. Even just with the 2 it gave me so much more information that was lacking through the weak G29 feedback. Definitely made me more consistent on that setup. I had to invest in a 2m x 1m 2 inch thick 6lb foam sheet for the rig at the time as I'm upstairs and the vibration was driving the wife crazy... Lol! I've got the 8nm DD coming, and I'll be looking at a full sized wheel for other games down the line (I mainly play ACC at the moment). Appreciate the info, bro.
Right on! Sounds like youre gonna have a heck of a rig! @bbgunocelot
The stiffer chasis will tie it all together.
Im on a rubber mat for the vibrations and anti slip. A cheap sub will really compliment the transducers you already have. 🍻
Glad you find my waffle useful mate and thank you for your recent Patron sign up too! Very much appreciated!
Hey!
Thanks for the comments. There was an issue with the supply of the original thumb nuts which actually had a bigger section to hold the clutch spring perfectly which I unfortunately can't get anymore. Although once installed the spring doesn't move around at all, what I'll be doing is for the next batch on June 10th, is 3D printing some pieces to hold the spring in place.
Cheers,
Rob
Race Sim Engineering
I fully expected a modification like this, for the CSL pedals. Fanatec did well in making the pedals modable. Now for Inversion and lever kits and aftermarket pedal face kits. This almost makes me want the CSL pedals... Almost.
Thanks for honest review. I was thinking about buying these pedals, but since I consider simracing a hobby, I will spend a little more and go with DC or Forte and won't wonder if I could make them better with some mods which in the end would cost the same.
@10:45
A capture spacer/washer in the clutch would help keep the spring centered, as well as increasing preload, which would result in a heavier pedal feel.
With a longer spacer you could perhaps get the heavier feel you desire, while also moving the pivot up to increase the desired clutch plate sensation.
1 3d printed part away from a solid upgrade. Different lengths could be made or shim/washer stacks could be used to adjust preload.
Yes mate good shout!
Hey, thanks for the comments!
I will definitely add a small spacer to the next batch on June 10th due to the feedback!
Cheers,
Rob
Race Sim Engineering
3:35 LOL, come for the sim racing content, stay for the innuendo.
cool review but they should prio a mod for the load cell break; adjustable force and distance..that would be great
Nice Video ,Karl, thanks for the Demonstration 👍
No problem 👍
The clutch part looks interesting, it is something I would consider getting. But like yourself I am happy with the throttle. I will wait and see as to when they sell them separately.
Same here. I just wanted a the clutch. Sim racing corner did a diy for the throttle for $10
Nice kit. Although I don't see the point of these expensive mods. The CSL LC is €200 eur and this is around 170. You add the 30 or 40 eur for the elastomers you almost come to the price of the V3s.
Yeah in which case the V3's would be the obvious choice for sure :)
Looks stainless steel, cool mod kit!
Gone to a lot effort, nice materials, quality workmanship to be failed by spring stabilizer cups . . . . . . . . .. Ahh.
Beta Team - Amend. Unusual to see you reading, instructions ; )
Every once in a while we have to bow our heads and read them Mark! lol
While not an issue once the spring is under compression, I can see how this may be problematic so I have added a spring seat onto the next batch to be ready on June 10th!
Cheers,
Rob
Race Sim Engineering
Trouble with all these upgrades is the price. Once you stick these in you're getting into V3 pricing territory for your pedal set. Might as well just buy those.
Agreed mate.
Only UK deliveries? Come on guys, I want to buy it, but I’m so damn far away from the United Kingdom. That’s really sad. Of course there’s much more things to take care of here in Ukraine, but sometimes you need to relax a bit driving your favorite sim. Anyway, I really hope that we’ll see the day when I’ll be able to get myself this kit delivered to Ukraine. Have a good and peaceful day everyone! And special thanks to you Karl, I love your channel and wait for every new video! Keep up the good work mate!
Thanks mate, hope you and your family are safe and well in these very difficult times!
Hey!
So I was only doing UK shipping for the first batch as I wanted to trial international shipping for just a few in case there was any issues.
The next batch on June 10th will be available for international shipping.
Cheers,
Rob
Race Sim Engineering
@@racesimengineering5827 wow! Thank you very much! Then I’ll order one in the first week of June when I’ll get my salary! That’s really good news, thank you once more!
@@ghostb9339 You're welcome, thanks for the interest!
@@ghostb9339 Thank you for the interest!
modding a cool hobby.
karl u need to try the 3drap kits with these rse kits both together with video footage of u using them , please thanks
That clutch pedal isn't supposed to tip up that end for simulating taking off plates ?
Karl, Race Sim Engineering have a brake tuning kit. Not seen a review from anyone. Would you recommend it & would you do a review on it?
So I bit on the 3drap 3d printed kit and bought 2 of each to get the full experience. Needless to say they've been sitting on my workbench since the day they showed up in the mail. I'm honestly wanting to buy this kit to make my pedal set more like the V3'S. In your honest opinion would you just buy set of V3'S or this kit? I have the money for either but I don't have enough to just go wasting on things.
I would buy the V3's mate, they are a better built all round pedal set with a fully adjustable load cell brake pedal.
@@KarlGosling thank you. I've only had the CSL DD PRO package for little less than 2 months. And I don't want to keep throwing money at these pedals when I know I'm going to get a set a V3's anyway. My luck is they'll announce the V4's as soon as they show up at my door... I would have skipped the CSL pedals all together but when I bought the set you couldn't just buy the DD Pro.
Anyway thanks for the opinion and maybe I'll put these pedals up for sale or hold on to them as a spare set. 🙂
I've had the V'3 pedals for 8 or 9 months now with no regrets. Even if V'4 was to come out it will not matter! If it ain't broke don't fix it! or replace it.
Sell me one progressive lol. Those stuff is too expensive for what it is
Hi, I found the video very interesting. I have a question please. I don't speak English so I don't know if you explained it in the video. Please I would like to know if it is possible to adjust the throttle travel, if it is possible to make it shorter. A thousand thanks.
Ordered
lots of waffles in this video. mmm waffles
Hey Karl, great info. Would there be any difference to the clutch mod feel, if you were to the end plate assembly upside-down?
This worth investing into instead of the Club Sport V3’s?
I still prefer the V3's.
Its really great and innovative when a company comes out to try and make a product better. But to be honest, if someone wants to go down this route, I think it would be better to buy a better product than the csl pedals in the first place. Once you have spent the extra money and fiddled around, it would be better in my opinion to get something that it is already superior.
It would easily be possible to make a kit like this for the csl brake pedal yhat doesn't have the fanatec loadcell.
CSL pedals with mod kit? Or V3 pedals? I think theyre still $100 difference. Interested which one youll pick?
V3's are a better all round pedal set.
if i dont have the lc brake i could just install the „clutch“ kit on the brake right?
I think so yes, but IMO you're better spending your money on the LC first mate.
My wallet breathed a sigh of relief at "UK deliveries only"
lol!
Don't worry, once they're back in stock they'll be available internationally!
@@racesimengineering5827 where buy thats in live USA
Isnt it possible to increase pre tension of the clutch spring and then put into position one or two? Therefore you should get the wanted heavier feel with also an increased biting point feel?
It would certainly give you a heavier pedal whether it would increase the bite feel….I doubt it
Question, are these pedals compatible with the omega gt art cockpit it doesn’t say anything on their website and I haven’t seen any photos of that combo, could you possibly if there is any time to spare try mounting them, if so let me know if it works or not, great video btw will be looking into some mods in the future👍
I no longer have an ART mate sorry, but I would think they do as both GT Omega and Fanatec are very mainstream and tend to be compatible with everything.
huh...... you dont just do sim racing gear........ i need a clutch combo for me audi, about 300 ft lb torque. S3 8L, i want to keep the DMF, what clutch plate do you recommend?? ha ;)
This looks very similar to the user posted mod on the Fanatec Owner's Group on FB post for CSL Pedals throttle DIY mod, that costs $12 USD on Ali for a pair of adjustable gas dampers (tension adjustable, to compress the spring on each damper with a knob) and $10.71 USD per pedal at the two major hardware stores, with no need to 3D print anything, for a total of $34 USD to apply to two pedals. Nothing to modify or remove on the CSL Pedals for that mod, install takes 30 minutes. It makes the pedals heavier, and the spring tension is adjustable with a knob on each damper, it does make the pedals feel better but it doesn't transform them. I would suggest the DIY user mod for the price buy I doubt I would pay $110 USD + shipping (likely to be at least $10 USD to ship to the USA, but likely closer to $20) for something similar to the user posted mod. The price for some of these addon parts for CSL Pedals nearly makes no sense for $80 to $200 USD pedals. Either mod is good if you feel like there is not enough tension on any or just one of the pedals, I just don't think $110 USD + shipping is worth it. Just know it isn't going to transform the pedals to a whole different class. I went from CSL LC Pedals fo Heusinkveld Sprints lately and my gosh are they incredibly better in every aspect!
If you were to add up all of the costs to have all of the CSL LC Pedals modifications by buying a CSL LC Pedals, CSL Pedals Tuning Kit (just to for the metal pedal plates), this or the other 3rd party produced throttle and brake or clutch based mod that was out first which are both around $130 USD after shipping, and the pair of elastomers, I was looking at $450 USD or so, which is only $100 USD less than my Heusinkveld Sprints. And if I were to rate both pedals sets at least for me in stock form, the CSL LC Pedals stock would be a 5.5/10, the mods minus the 3Drap elastomers changes, so just using the stock CSL LC elastomers in that case, because I was not willing to pay close to $60 USD for two such simple pieces of material to try them, would be a 6.0/10, and the HE Sprints would be a 9.5/10, which is quite a large gap. I also feel like the HE Sprints will last way longer and be more reliable and they are fully adjustable in every aspect including the pedal angle and tension which makes the difference in total price not even close to being with spending the money modding CSL LC Pedals to that level, IMHO.
Can you share the link to the CSL pedal mods?
Thanks for the info. Could you please share the link to the post?
RUclips blocks links to Facebook posts. You can join the Fanatec Owner's Group and search for CSL Pedals throttle DIY mod.
Sim Racing Corner (RUclips) today actually just posted a video review of the very similar CSL Pedals damper mod I'm talking about and shows the parts to order for it.
Thanks for the comments!
I decided against gas dampers due to the return rate being too slow which can hinder your throttle control.
The majority of the cost from this kit is in the clutch, both the upgraded spring and the upright sections needed to get the feeling of a pressure plate. You can only get a linear feeling on the clutch when running the DIY mods as they rely on using the bottom mounting holes in the pedal base - you need the mounting point to be raised in order to get a pressure plate feeling.
In terms of cost and what to buy? In the UK this kit + the pedals with loadcell comes in at £300 compared to £410 for the V3s. If you have the money outright, then you may want to spend the extra £110 for V3's or the extra £200 for HE sprints. What this kit does though is allow you to start with a cheaper pedal set if that's all you can afford or if you got it in a bundle, and then incrementally upgrade them to a set that can at compete with higher end gear.
Cheers,
Rob
Race Sim Engineering
3:38 - Oh FFS!!! LMAO!
Surely some preload on the clutch spring of the mod would sort that feel out with the higher mounting bite point? Also would that help add more friction to hold mentioned spring in place on that shaft better?
There's not enough available no, a stronger spring will though.
No, it needs something to centre it.
Can this be used for CSL elite v1 pedals?
Hey bro where buy thats?
first link in the description
Already sold out :D
Yes mate, pre-order for June delivery I think right now.
We will be back in stock June 10th!
Nice! 😁
Did you revieved the brake kit?
Have you tested these? Don't see the video of you trying it out...unless I'm blind
No, I thought I would make a review without testing them.... 🤷♂️lol
@@KarlGosling literally driving around the city to modify my brake pedal and this gave me a good idea. I watched all your videos. My god you have alot of rigs 😆 keep up the good vids man
Anyone know if they will ship to the US?
yes, I ordered both, clutch and throttle mod. Best mod out there for CSL pedals.