I upgraded from CSL Elite V1 to these V2 because the V1 uses a potentiometer and it started to produce a noisy signal. I am so happy I did! The brake makes a huge difference to me and I was instantly faster after getting used to the new feel, which only took a few minutes. I will sell my V1s, however, in the end it's going to be some investment but I feel it was a good choice made. And I agree: There's no reason to purchase the V3 unless Fanatec upgrades those as well.
Will stay with my V3's but i do like the brake pedal travel compared to the V3, also no grease and mess. Watched a few of these Elite V2 reviews and yours has been the best. Good work!
Wow what a brake pedal! Much prefer it to my Clubsport, so much so that I've ordered a set. First the CSL DD now these, Fanatec bringing a taste of the high end to the mid range. A couple of years ago when I got my TS-PC I'd never have believed that you could get this sort of experience (CSL Elite V2 & CSL DD+ a wheel) for a grand. I am amazed at the high end feel of this brake pedal, the clutch isn't quite as good as the Clubsport but i barely use it. I've never been that fussy about a gas pedal, so these are a no brainer. Cant wait to plug these into my CSL DD!
Thanks Karl. Another great review. I had the previous version for a number of years until the potentiometers started playing up too much. I could have tried harder to fix them but liked the idea of an upgrade. This version seems to have fixed all the small issues with the old version: better brake with some travel, hall effect sensors and, most importantly, you can now easily acces the mounting screws at the front 😃. The old version was hair tearingly bad for that. It also mean's it's much easier to adjust the side to side pedal position as you can easily remove the whole unit now. As a final thought, why do none of the high end sets give us the nice rubber pedal covers. They are so much more comfortable to use in socks. And a final PS, the cat seemed to really like this video. 😸
I'm watching your videos again trying to decide if to upgrade my Fanatec Gran Turismo setup do to Black Friday deals!. Go CSL Load Cell plus 8nm power upgrade or these pedals instead. Decisions, decisions!
Excellent review as always, Karl. I’m currently on the CSL pedals with the Loadcell upgrade, having come from the V1 Elites because I was unable to get the Elite Loadcell when the discontinued it! Good to know it’s not a massive difference, but like so many others I do find the CSL loadcell a little stiff at the initial compression stage, I really wish Fanatec would give us a tuning kit like they include with the Elite V2, seems like the spring seems to be a big part of the difference there by the looks of it, I just want the pedal to be a little softer there before stiffening up. I know there’s after market mods, but its a mine field! The 3DRap one you reviewed a while back seems like a decent option, but it’s a bit on the pricey side when you include delivery (£30 for one!! And which one to go for??!! 🤣) Anyway, thanks again for a great review. Keep up the good work 👍🏻
These are my absolute favorite pedals for under $700 believe it or not. Only pedals I like more are the p2000s. Yet I still use the elite v2s haha. Ive never adapted to pedals as fast as I have with the v2s. It was 1 day and my muscle memory stayed, legit stayed didnt have to even think. They fit my preference perfectly right off the bat. Lol never had to adjust settings after the first day. Was beating my lap times first day! I hate the csl loadcell but i love the elite v2 loadcell. That brake difference is very noticable, Its way way way way better in performance and consistency.
Awesome review Karl, as always. I have a question, I have the CSL Pedals (without LC) and I'm thinking about either upgrading them with the LC kit or selling those and buying the CSL Elite V2 Pedals. What would you suggest?
Ok so I just got these pedals. Coming from CSL pedals and the old "there too stiff" comes in. So my very first idea was taking off one of rubber slugs and putting on BOTH springs and two 65 slugs. Maybe I'm an just weird but...but I really like it this way. There's a little bit more travel now but it still has that needed stiffness for smoother braking and trail braking. Anyone who dont like the stiffness try this, you might like it. Once the rubber breaks in I feel I'll probably end up taking the 2nd spring out. As for now it made the transition a lot easier for me. So far though the loadcell is what its made to be...I can brake smoothly now without lock up. I added my dayton audio 40W with Gorilla double side tape to back of brake pedal for lock up vibration and together it's amazing! Also another great review Karl! I enjoy your style of reviews. Thank you bud!
It's funny that Fanatec's two lower-end pedals let you adjust the left/right positions while their higher end set doesn't. I wonder if they'll update the V3s at some point. I do like my V3s a lot apart from that (and silly things like having to plug them in via USB to update firmware) and would probably still get them of the 3, but sometimes my knees do wish I could move the brake pedal left a little. :D Watching this, it occurred to me that it's all done in one take without loads of "ums and errs" and looking stuff up. That's quite a skill! When I make a video there are about 150 edits per sentence, haha.
I'm confident something "high end" is coming at some point, there's a gap in the market from their perspective with the V3's being mid range these days Thanks Leo kind words mate, all my video's are done in one take with no edits or scripts... it helps that I've been doing it a few years now and also really know and have a keen interest in my subject matter too.
Hi Karl, are the Fanatec CSL Elite V2's throttle and brake pedals stiffer compared to the ones on Thrustmaster T-LCM? Edit: You did a great review on this.
i see a great mid range pedal set. a bit pricey but realy close to v3s. i believe the brake is better than stock v3s. a big thumbs down for the lack of adjustability. i like flat face plates on my rig. all in all, if you want a good clutch go v3+bpk, if you don't care about clutch, these are great. I would wait for any black friday deals on bj's, forte, sprints etc before i buy.
I'm looking forward to your honest review on the new Logitech Pro Dd wheel and base. I love how you were honest on the Moza wheel and base. Logitech looks pretty good other then plastic housing and price. I still will take my fanatec for $800 with my McLaren Gt3 wheel any day. 8nm power supply on the way as we speak. Cheers mate!!
Yeah I'll be buying one in when available to review, I must say I already dislike the design of it, I think it looks horrible and the wheel far too much like a G920! lol
@@a92gsxdsm I dont like how they jacked up the price once they got a few favourable reviews form other youtubers. Was originally on for £850 or so. I also managed to apply a discount code and got the price down to £760 or so. I tried to pre order but something "wrong" with their site would not accept the postcode (Zipcode) even though it used it to find my address. Then when i eventually got past this with help from Logitech's Tech support the discount code was still showing but it had been reduced to £0.00 and the price was now £999 for the wheelbase and wheel. terrible. dont think i will bother now. problem is everything is out of stoick everywhere with no sign of availablity getting any better. Suppose i will just have to keep using my Logitech G920.....
Another great review. Thanks. Two questions. Can I connect the padels directly to a Mozo R12 wheel base? And do you think they will fit on a GT Omega Titan?
Love your videos mate. You go into so much detail it's extremely helpful! Are you going to be playing Dakar Desert Rally when it comes out? Would love to see a review from you if its your kind of game :)
@@KarlGosling hell yeah! It looks like it could be a fun game. Especially the simulation mode if you really wanna try to navigate a desert. Would love to hear your thoughts if you end up checking it out 😁
Great review for an older player😂 fancied the v3’s for the bling but these look better value and performance for me. Coming from Logitech G29. Excited which doesn’t happen often at my age. Thanks Karl👍
I got csl padels. But thinking to upgrade to csl elite v2. Or should I just buy csl load cell pedal and save money ? Cannot decide what to do. Karl I need expert advice
Now i'm interested in a choice in which i simply have no idea what the best investment is. I have bought that banger of a deal with the BMW P1, DD and CSL pedals for 399,-. Great deal but now what? Do i buy the Loadcell kit for € 140,- and use the CSL pedals + LC? Or do i buy the V2 Elites for € 299,- and sell the CSL pedals for like € 50,- on market. (So spending about € 250,- for the V2) I'm really having a hard time picking since i have no reference between the 2 options. Cheers in advance.
I purchased the CSL pedals with load cell kit about a day before these released and just got them in yesterday. I'm not loving the throttle with how light it is, feels like it takes almost zero pressure to press in all the way. I'm still within the return window, is the throttle any better or have more resistance on these where it may be worth returning the CSLs and getting these? Love the videos, been watching a ton as I've been diving into sim racing! Edit: Just got to the point in the vid where you compare to the csl and seems pretty much the same which is unfortunate, probably just have to get used to it.
So I currently have just the base 2 pedal CSL pedal set. I am for sure getting a loadcell pedal of some type at the end of the month. Do you think it's worth it to go straight to the Elite V2 pedal set or should I just get the 140 dollar Loadcell kit upgrade for my csl pedal set? I'm on the fence and I don't know if the loadcell between the two will make that big of a difference. Any advice is appreciated Karl.
Great review Karl, I bought a CSL DD Pro without load cell due to pockets not being deep enough. What I would like to know is if FANATEC will sell the new load cell pedal as a stand alone add on so I can simply upgrade my current CSL pedals with that as my brake and turn my brake into a clutch pedal which I don't have at the moment. Cheers mate.
Hey Karl, I have to say you and Boosted Media make the best sim racing gear videos on the whole internet! Do you happen to know if the CSL Elite V2 can be mounted to the Playseat Trophy pedal plate without any custom modifications?
Honest question, I am a beginner sim racer and picked up kind of by mistake didn't realize the age of the Fanatec Clubsport V1 pedals. I was curious with your experience what set of pedals out of "entry level" would give you the best feel for the price without needing to go to "pro" level? V3? What do you consider next after price for a 3 pedal setup? Thanks!!!!
Thanks for the video Karl. I currently have the T-LCM pedals. Would it make sense to upgrade to the Fanatec ones or should I keep mine? P.S.: thank you for all the great reviews and discount codes. Just ordered a GT Omega Art cockpit, really looking forward to it 🤩
These are nicer, they feel much smoother than the springy feeling you get from the T-LCM's... but ultimately it's up to you mate. Ah a great entry level cockpit, I had mine for years and di me just fine! :)
Now that there is black friday coming with the clubsport v3 at the same price as the csl elite v2. Ive heard some people prefer the elite v2's over the clubsport. Which one of the two would you recommend/pick over the other one and why? Thanks in advance :)
These pedals are so Guud! If you don't have a cockpit and have a strap holding your chair to your pedals and have your Fanatec pedal force set at a mere 10%, then go to NAPA and order the shock absorber bushings. They're made of rubber and will allow several times more brake travel. They really helped me control trail braking. Braking is all feel, so experiment!
Thanks Karl love your work and so much detail and honesty is very much refreshing compared to other reviews. In aus there is $50 difference between these and v3s which way would you go?
Thank you Karl again for the great review! I want to upgrade from my T-LCM, but I care about the clutch, but the brake looks better on this, so I can't decide. :D Anyway, it won't happen sooner than a couple of months, so who knows, maybe Fanatec will release a new revision of the ClubSport Pedals until then. :)
I'm confident something "high end" is coming at some point, there's a gap in the market from their perspective with the V3's being mid range these days.
@@KarlGosling Yeah probably they will release a podium pedal set around the price of the Heusinkvelds, at least that's what I expect. But that will be out of my price range. :)
got the CSL Elite "V1" ones, the only issue I have is that the accelerator gets random inputs or none at all because of hardware malfuntion - sometimes. and that fanatec uses those trash telephone cables to connect everything, which are prone to have bad connections between the part and the main box that everything connects to.. horrible other than that the V1 feels great..this looks like a good re-work
so counfused with fanatec. how do I even get a Fanatec ps4 setup that works? Plz review the new llogitec DD and see if it is possible to use any other pedals please
Great review as always fella. Personally will keep the CSLs, doesn’t really seem to be any huge improvements from those. Also may just be me but they look ugly as sin 😂 prefer CSL or any other pedals really
Functionally better than the CSL pedals but look like the pedals in your granny's Fiesta. The CSL pedals with the tuning kit look really nice by comparison.
Hey can you try if the elastomers from 3drap are fitting on these pedals? I cant find anything about that on their website! Would be very helpful! Good video :)
Can you relax your foot on the throttle without compressing the spring like on all vehicles i have ever driven? I don't want to have to lift my foot backwards for hours in order to not press the throttle....
It depends on how much force you apply when you rest your foot. This is why you set a dead zone. Set it to ignore any measurable force you apply while resting your foot.
The single elastomer looks slightly larger in diameter on Elite V2 but the height could be the same. In CSL LC, the elastomer measures 20 mm in diameter, 8.5-9 mm inner hole diameter and 12 mm in height. Therefore, maybe only the spring from the Elite V2 would not fit the CSL LC, but maybe even if the height of the elastomer is the same, the complete elastomer stack from the Elite V2 would fit the CSL LC. Karl, can you please just check sometime dimentions of single elastomer on Elite V2? All in all, the Elite V2 and the CSL LC are technically identical pedals, if the CSL LC had a coil spring instead of one elastomer, like on the Elite V2.
KARL PLEASE HELP. Mate please help me find a gran tourismo dd pro bace with csl pedals and the mclaren wheel. Fannatec have been tricky for me to order from (won't eccept emails of me or my wife) Are there any uk stockists
Opened these up yesterday and wanted to move the brake pedal. They must have enlisted The Incredible Hulk to put the bolts on, took me over an hour to get 5 of them undone and the one in the middle is stuck - it's loosened off but spins on both the nut side and the Allen key side. Suspect it may be stripped. No idea why they'd be sent out so tight! Suspect I'm going to have to drill it or something to get that one out, then replace it.
@@KarlGosling yeah, ended up getting it broken off and the holding piece to guide that bolt had actually snapped off as well. Must've been cross-threaded in manufacturing I guess. Luckily it all still tightens up OK and I've mounted it to my Playseat Trophy with no issues, and also mounted some castor wheels under the pedal plate of the Trophy at the front so I can wheel it around more easily. So far, so good!
@@KarlGosling Bugger. Thought they'd have sent you a set for review as well as the others reviewers, cos yours are among the best mate, very down to earth, very informative
Do you think the v2 is an upgrade worth from the v1. I got the Elite v1 and I'm in doubt to buy a v3. But some reviewers saying that the Elite v2 has a better brake and therefore is the v2 a good choice.
@@lovelaugh7299 Karl makes great content but here he hasn't actually tested the pedals which is strange for a 'review'. Boosted Media have and say the V2's are excellent and better than even the V3's so there's that ...
I said I wouldn't upgrade from CSL LC pedals not the V1's... if you already have V1's with the LC brake these are better but it would be up to you if you think enough to upgrade.
This makes me happy, i timed my upgrade poorly so it was just as they discontinued the pedals and has to make do without a load cell(didn't fancy being scalped online) and my god it's sensitive I'm braking by flexing my toes back and letting the natural curve of the ball of my foot move imperceptibility enough to press it haha so these are an absolute godsend to heavy footed twats like me
I actually don't understand what's Fanatec thinking here. They released LC pedals which are 200 EUR that they bundle with DD 0.5. Then they again spend R&D for making these Elite V2. While they are a step above LC entry offering, why didn't they spend R&D in some sort of better entry pedals that are upgradable to this kind of level? Price difference to consumer is small, so I don't understand why would you even buy LC. And if you add just a 100 EUR more, you can get DC pedals or go even higher. There are a lot of good loadcell pedals in 400-600 range, that are more customizable, upgradable, and looking more like hard core equipment than toys. Second point: They still don't have proper high end pedals. V3 with performance and damper kit are not good pedals anymore. You can get better pedals if you just look around a little. The only thing I can imagine is if you're already in Fanatec ecosystem and you need console support. But even here, I would ask you, what are you doing, buying expensive stuff and not using a PC. But to each his own. These pedals, not looking at the bigger picture, are good pedals, for a decent price, and looks are subjective.
These are TERRIBLE pedals! The cantilever loadcell design makes it very hard to brake consistently if your foot moves AT ALL. As Karl says: you get different pressure delivery to the load cell, depending upon where your foot is on the pedal. (7:00) If you can put your foot in the exact same place every time it would work, but no one does that. SOOO many better options out there. Avoid these like the plague!
I upgraded from CSL Elite V1 to these V2 because the V1 uses a potentiometer and it started to produce a noisy signal. I am so happy I did! The brake makes a huge difference to me and I was instantly faster after getting used to the new feel, which only took a few minutes. I will sell my V1s, however, in the end it's going to be some investment but I feel it was a good choice made. And I agree: There's no reason to purchase the V3 unless Fanatec upgrades those as well.
Will stay with my V3's but i do like the brake pedal travel compared to the V3, also no grease and mess. Watched a few of these Elite V2 reviews and yours has been the best. Good work!
Thanks Grumpy!
Best and most underrated sim-gear reviewer on YT!
Keep it up Karl!
Thanks, will do!
Wow what a brake pedal! Much prefer it to my Clubsport, so much so that I've ordered a set. First the CSL DD now these, Fanatec bringing a taste of the high end to the mid range. A couple of years ago when I got my TS-PC I'd never have believed that you could get this sort of experience (CSL Elite V2 & CSL DD+ a wheel) for a grand. I am amazed at the high end feel of this brake pedal, the clutch isn't quite as good as the Clubsport but i barely use it. I've never been that fussy about a gas pedal, so these are a no brainer. Cant wait to plug these into my CSL DD!
Ordered mine yesterday, I trust in your reviews Karl, can't wait to try them out now! Thanks Karl.
They are decent for the price mate, enjoy! :)
Thanks Karl. Another great review. I had the previous version for a number of years until the potentiometers started playing up too much. I could have tried harder to fix them but liked the idea of an upgrade. This version seems to have fixed all the small issues with the old version: better brake with some travel, hall effect sensors and, most importantly, you can now easily acces the mounting screws at the front 😃. The old version was hair tearingly bad for that. It also mean's it's much easier to adjust the side to side pedal position as you can easily remove the whole unit now. As a final thought, why do none of the high end sets give us the nice rubber pedal covers. They are so much more comfortable to use in socks. And a final PS, the cat seemed to really like this video. 😸
Thanks Doc! Cat approval is essential for any sim racing product I think! :) lol
I'm watching your videos again trying to decide if to upgrade my Fanatec Gran Turismo setup do to Black Friday deals!. Go CSL Load Cell plus 8nm power upgrade or these pedals instead. Decisions, decisions!
Excellent review as always, Karl.
I’m currently on the CSL pedals with the Loadcell upgrade, having come from the V1 Elites because I was unable to get the Elite Loadcell when the discontinued it!
Good to know it’s not a massive difference, but like so many others I do find the CSL loadcell a little stiff at the initial compression stage, I really wish Fanatec would give us a tuning kit like they include with the Elite V2, seems like the spring seems to be a big part of the difference there by the looks of it, I just want the pedal to be a little softer there before stiffening up.
I know there’s after market mods, but its a mine field! The 3DRap one you reviewed a while back seems like a decent option, but it’s a bit on the pricey side when you include delivery (£30 for one!! And which one to go for??!! 🤣)
Anyway, thanks again for a great review. Keep up the good work 👍🏻
Get the 3DRAP. There are much better then stock ones. I got the hybrid
These are my absolute favorite pedals for under $700 believe it or not. Only pedals I like more are the p2000s. Yet I still use the elite v2s haha. Ive never adapted to pedals as fast as I have with the v2s. It was 1 day and my muscle memory stayed, legit stayed didnt have to even think. They fit my preference perfectly right off the bat. Lol never had to adjust settings after the first day. Was beating my lap times first day!
I hate the csl loadcell but i love the elite v2 loadcell. That brake difference is very noticable, Its way way way way better in performance and consistency.
Well it seems like you're a Unicorn as everyone else loves them.....For a mid range pedal you won't buy better.
@@glenncastell864 ducs I said I loved them lol
Just ordered a set of these for 200€ black friday price, really excited to try them out!
I just ordered a set myself. Go well with my Asetek La Prima that will be ordered next week.
I did the same and am really happy with my Asetek, and the V2's.@@deadmanwalking1930
@Rmx2011 did you ever receive them?
@@edub0381 I actually got the pedals within a week, EU order.
Fanatec never stops upgrading and updating.
Awesome review Karl, as always.
I have a question, I have the CSL Pedals (without LC) and I'm thinking about either upgrading them with the LC kit or selling those and buying the CSL Elite V2 Pedals. What would you suggest?
Ok so I just got these pedals. Coming from CSL pedals and the old "there too stiff" comes in. So my very first idea was taking off one of rubber slugs and putting on BOTH springs and two 65 slugs. Maybe I'm an just weird but...but I really like it this way. There's a little bit more travel now but it still has that needed stiffness for smoother braking and trail braking. Anyone who dont like the stiffness try this, you might like it. Once the rubber breaks in I feel I'll probably end up taking the 2nd spring out. As for now it made the transition a lot easier for me. So far though the loadcell is what its made to be...I can brake smoothly now without lock up. I added my dayton audio 40W with Gorilla double side tape to back of brake pedal for lock up vibration and together it's amazing! Also another great review Karl! I enjoy your style of reviews. Thank you bud!
It's funny that Fanatec's two lower-end pedals let you adjust the left/right positions while their higher end set doesn't. I wonder if they'll update the V3s at some point. I do like my V3s a lot apart from that (and silly things like having to plug them in via USB to update firmware) and would probably still get them of the 3, but sometimes my knees do wish I could move the brake pedal left a little. :D
Watching this, it occurred to me that it's all done in one take without loads of "ums and errs" and looking stuff up. That's quite a skill! When I make a video there are about 150 edits per sentence, haha.
I'm confident something "high end" is coming at some point, there's a gap in the market from their perspective with the V3's being mid range these days
Thanks Leo kind words mate, all my video's are done in one take with no edits or scripts... it helps that I've been doing it a few years now and also really know and have a keen interest in my subject matter too.
Love your reviews Karl, thanks.It really helps to get an idea before buying
Great reviews in this channel. Always. New subscriber!
Awesome, thank you!
Hi Karl, are the Fanatec CSL Elite V2's throttle and brake pedals stiffer compared to the ones on Thrustmaster T-LCM?
Edit: You did a great review on this.
Honestly mate I can't remember, it was a while a go I had them both but these definitely feel much nicer to use IMO.
Thanks mate! :)
i see a great mid range pedal set. a bit pricey but realy close to v3s. i believe the brake is better than stock v3s. a big thumbs down for the lack of adjustability. i like flat face plates on my rig. all in all, if you want a good clutch go v3+bpk, if you don't care about clutch, these are great. I would wait for any black friday deals on bj's, forte, sprints etc before i buy.
I'm looking forward to your honest review on the new Logitech Pro Dd wheel and base. I love how you were honest on the Moza wheel and base. Logitech looks pretty good other then plastic housing and price. I still will take my fanatec for $800 with my McLaren Gt3 wheel any day. 8nm power supply on the way as we speak. Cheers mate!!
Yeah I'll be buying one in when available to review, I must say I already dislike the design of it, I think it looks horrible and the wheel far too much like a G920! lol
@@KarlGosling lol I agree 100% sir. My son and I both said same when we seen it.
@@a92gsxdsm I dont like how they jacked up the price once they got a few favourable reviews form other youtubers. Was originally on for £850 or so. I also managed to apply a discount code and got the price down to £760 or so. I tried to pre order but something "wrong" with their site would not accept the postcode (Zipcode) even though it used it to find my address. Then when i eventually got past this with help from Logitech's Tech support the discount code was still showing but it had been reduced to £0.00 and the price was now £999 for the wheelbase and wheel. terrible. dont think i will bother now. problem is everything is out of stoick everywhere with no sign of availablity getting any better. Suppose i will just have to keep using my Logitech G920.....
Another great review. Thanks. Two questions. Can I connect the padels directly to a Mozo R12 wheel base? And do you think they will fit on a GT Omega Titan?
No and yes.
@@KarlGosling Thanks a lot!
Love your videos mate. You go into so much detail it's extremely helpful! Are you going to be playing Dakar Desert Rally when it comes out? Would love to see a review from you if its your kind of game :)
I might take a look at it mate :)
@@KarlGosling hell yeah! It looks like it could be a fun game. Especially the simulation mode if you really wanna try to navigate a desert. Would love to hear your thoughts if you end up checking it out 😁
Great review for an older player😂 fancied the v3’s for the bling but these look better value and performance for me. Coming from Logitech G29. Excited which doesn’t happen often at my age. Thanks Karl👍
They are decent for the price, enjoy the excitement when they arrive!
I got csl padels. But thinking to upgrade to csl elite v2. Or should I just buy csl load cell pedal and save money ? Cannot decide what to do. Karl I need expert advice
good stuff karl , out of the elite v2's & the v3's which would you choose and why? 👍
V3's for the clutch pedal and overall appearance.
Now i'm interested in a choice in which i simply have no idea what the best investment is. I have bought that banger of a deal with the BMW P1, DD and CSL pedals for 399,-. Great deal but now what?
Do i buy the Loadcell kit for € 140,- and use the CSL pedals + LC?
Or do i buy the V2 Elites for € 299,- and sell the CSL pedals for like € 50,- on market. (So spending about € 250,- for the V2)
I'm really having a hard time picking since i have no reference between the 2 options.
Cheers in advance.
I'd go V2 Elites if you prefer the way they look.
I purchased the CSL pedals with load cell kit about a day before these released and just got them in yesterday. I'm not loving the throttle with how light it is, feels like it takes almost zero pressure to press in all the way. I'm still within the return window, is the throttle any better or have more resistance on these where it may be worth returning the CSLs and getting these? Love the videos, been watching a ton as I've been diving into sim racing!
Edit: Just got to the point in the vid where you compare to the csl and seems pretty much the same which is unfortunate, probably just have to get used to it.
I would definitively return LC and buy these if that was an option.
good question ;)
You should look at the 3Drap upgrades for the CSL pedals the pro throttle kit is transformative
So I currently have just the base 2 pedal CSL pedal set. I am for sure getting a loadcell pedal of some type at the end of the month. Do you think it's worth it to go straight to the Elite V2 pedal set or should I just get the 140 dollar Loadcell kit upgrade for my csl pedal set? I'm on the fence and I don't know if the loadcell between the two will make that big of a difference. Any advice is appreciated Karl.
Great review Karl, I bought a CSL DD Pro without load cell due to pockets not being deep enough. What I would like to know is if FANATEC will sell the new load cell pedal as a stand alone add on so I can simply upgrade my current CSL pedals with that as my brake and turn my brake into a clutch pedal which I don't have at the moment. Cheers mate.
Yes you can buy the CLS LC pedal on it's own mate, £139 on their site www.fanatec.com/?FAP+Banner&General+Links&a_aid=6174361ca9a4c
Hey Karl, I have to say you and Boosted Media make the best sim racing gear videos on the whole internet! Do you happen to know if the CSL Elite V2 can be mounted to the Playseat Trophy pedal plate without any custom modifications?
Thanks mate, very kind of you! But I'm afraid I don't know sorry.
Honest question, I am a beginner sim racer and picked up kind of by mistake didn't realize the age of the Fanatec Clubsport V1 pedals. I was curious with your experience what set of pedals out of "entry level" would give you the best feel for the price without needing to go to "pro" level? V3? What do you consider next after price for a 3 pedal setup? Thanks!!!!
These are a very good offering mate, for their price point, not much out there this low thats decent.
@@KarlGosling thanks so much Karl, so I definitely would see a nice feeling compared to the club sport v1. Thanks!
@@KarlGosling even better than moza CRP? Thanks!
Hi Karl, great video as always, just out of curiosity have you seen the new Logitech Pro wheel and pedals? Pretty interesting stuff
Not in the flesh no but I'll get them in for review for sure!
Karl, in your opinion how much worth it is it to go this route versus the Racesimengineering upgrade + 3drap upgrade on the CSLs?
I think the price of the mods brings you to the price of these or very close?
Thanks for the video Karl. I currently have the T-LCM pedals. Would it make sense to upgrade to the Fanatec ones or should I keep mine?
P.S.: thank you for all the great reviews and discount codes. Just ordered a GT Omega Art cockpit, really looking forward to it 🤩
These are nicer, they feel much smoother than the springy feeling you get from the T-LCM's... but ultimately it's up to you mate.
Ah a great entry level cockpit, I had mine for years and di me just fine! :)
Now that there is black friday coming with the clubsport v3 at the same price as the csl elite v2. Ive heard some people prefer the elite v2's over the clubsport. Which one of the two would you recommend/pick over the other one and why? Thanks in advance :)
V3's for me, clutch and looks.
@@KarlGosling thanks for the answer, will go with the V3s then :)
These pedals are so Guud! If you don't have a cockpit and have a strap holding your chair to your pedals and have your Fanatec pedal force set at a mere 10%, then go to NAPA and order the shock absorber bushings. They're made of rubber and will allow several times more brake travel. They really helped me control trail braking. Braking is all feel, so experiment!
Great break down review will you do a vs v3s nobody has yet
They don't really compare mate, as I said in this video the LC is easier to adjust on these but the V3's are overall a much nicer pedal set.
Thanks Karl love your work and so much detail and honesty is very much refreshing compared to other reviews.
In aus there is $50 difference between these and v3s which way would you go?
Thanks mate! I'd go for the V3's as I prefer the clutch pedal.
@@KarlGosling legend. Well thank you for building my sim right 🥰 feel free to send them my way if you wanna clear the space out 🤣🤣
Thank you Karl again for the great review!
I want to upgrade from my T-LCM, but I care about the clutch, but the brake looks better on this, so I can't decide. :D Anyway, it won't happen sooner than a couple of months, so who knows, maybe Fanatec will release a new revision of the ClubSport Pedals until then. :)
I'm confident something "high end" is coming at some point, there's a gap in the market from their perspective with the V3's being mid range these days.
@@KarlGosling Yeah probably they will release a podium pedal set around the price of the Heusinkvelds, at least that's what I expect.
But that will be out of my price range. :)
Pity the heal plate is wider than it has to be, because it does not fit my Simetik rig, at least not where I need it to be.
Great reviews! When reviewing the new Logitech DD wheel and pedals?
I've got to buy them in mate as I have no contact with Logitech so will be a little while.
got the CSL Elite "V1" ones, the only issue I have is that the accelerator gets random inputs or none at all because of hardware malfuntion - sometimes. and that fanatec uses those trash telephone cables to connect everything, which are prone to have bad connections between the part and the main box that everything connects to.. horrible
other than that the V1 feels great..this looks like a good re-work
Great video. Got my like and sub.
Are these compatible with Thrustmaster T300 on Ps3/4?
I don't have any consoles but I wouldn't think so.
so counfused with fanatec. how do I even get a Fanatec ps4 setup that works? Plz review the new llogitec DD and see if it is possible to use any other pedals please
your reviews are quite helpful I should add, clarifying Compatiablilty with everything you review would help a lot.
Great review as always fella. Personally will keep the CSLs, doesn’t really seem to be any huge improvements from those. Also may just be me but they look ugly as sin 😂 prefer CSL or any other pedals really
Strange world, i love these and hate the boxy tube frame jobs which i own cos I couldn't get this style first time round haha
@@ThePerks2010 fair enough man, to each their own!
A great example of personal preference right here, each to their own! :)
cant seem to find the height of these pedals. I have a cramped space for these.
Functionally better than the CSL pedals but look like the pedals in your granny's Fiesta. The CSL pedals with the tuning kit look really nice by comparison.
lol Thats an excellent comment!
Hey can you try if the elastomers from 3drap are fitting on these pedals? I cant find anything about that on their website! Would be very helpful! Good video :)
Looking forward to see your review of the new Logitech G Pro base, wheel and pedals
I'll get them in for sure!
How would you compare this to the CRP? I know they're more expensive but you had some criticism for them
Take a look at my CRP review mate, you can make your own choice then :)
are they any good? should i get them?
You know this is a review right?! lol
Can you relax your foot on the throttle without compressing the spring like on all vehicles i have ever driven? I don't want to have to lift my foot backwards for hours in order to not press the throttle....
It depends on how much force you apply when you rest your foot. This is why you set a dead zone. Set it to ignore any measurable force you apply while resting your foot.
Do you know if the elastomer and spring from the V2 will fit the CSL load cell?
The dimensions look different but I'd have to check to be 100%.
The single elastomer looks slightly larger in diameter on Elite V2 but the height could be the same.
In CSL LC, the elastomer measures 20 mm in diameter, 8.5-9 mm inner hole diameter and 12 mm in height. Therefore, maybe only the spring from the Elite V2 would not fit the CSL LC, but maybe even if the height of the elastomer is the same, the complete elastomer stack from the Elite V2 would fit the CSL LC.
Karl, can you please just check sometime dimentions of single elastomer on Elite V2?
All in all, the Elite V2 and the CSL LC are technically identical pedals, if the CSL LC had a coil spring instead of one elastomer, like on the Elite V2.
your t-shirt is PERFECT!
Thanks mate!
Hi Karl. Will you be reviewing the logitech dd wheel?
I've pre-ordered one yes mate! :)
@@KarlGosling I am planning to buy one too. For the pedals I'm not sure if I should go for the CSL Elite V2 or the Logitech G Pro pedals
Got elite v1 might get v2 or v3
Thanks for your input great review
My pleasure!
KARL PLEASE HELP.
Mate please help me find a gran tourismo dd pro bace with csl pedals and the mclaren wheel. Fannatec have been tricky for me to order from (won't eccept emails of me or my wife)
Are there any uk stockists
Opened these up yesterday and wanted to move the brake pedal. They must have enlisted The Incredible Hulk to put the bolts on, took me over an hour to get 5 of them undone and the one in the middle is stuck - it's loosened off but spins on both the nut side and the Allen key side. Suspect it may be stripped. No idea why they'd be sent out so tight! Suspect I'm going to have to drill it or something to get that one out, then replace it.
Oh what a ball ache mate!
@@KarlGosling yeah, ended up getting it broken off and the holding piece to guide that bolt had actually snapped off as well. Must've been cross-threaded in manufacturing I guess. Luckily it all still tightens up OK and I've mounted it to my Playseat Trophy with no issues, and also mounted some castor wheels under the pedal plate of the Trophy at the front so I can wheel it around more easily. So far, so good!
When will you be reviewing the Logitech Pro Wheel mate?
When they are available to buy mate, pre-order right now, I have no contacts with Logitech so will have to buy it in.
@@KarlGosling Bugger. Thought they'd have sent you a set for review as well as the others reviewers, cos yours are among the best mate, very down to earth, very informative
Can I use it on the floor?
Yes but not really what they are designed for IMO.
Do you think the v2 is an upgrade worth from the v1. I got the Elite v1 and I'm in doubt to buy a v3. But some reviewers saying that the Elite v2 has a better brake and therefore is the v2 a good choice.
big upgrade
@@xXxBo5sANaCxXx he says big no in the video
@@lovelaugh7299 Karl makes great content but here he hasn't actually tested the pedals which is strange for a 'review'. Boosted Media have and say the V2's are excellent and better than even the V3's so there's that ...
You see me test them in the video if you watched all of it Kevin! ;) lol
I said I wouldn't upgrade from CSL LC pedals not the V1's... if you already have V1's with the LC brake these are better but it would be up to you if you think enough to upgrade.
Are these comparable with a g920 on Xbox?
No mate, night and day difference.
that paint finish looks like the same as the old aircraft instrument panels had Jodels and other French stuff
I know exactly what you mean yes!
i can imagine v4 pedals soon but just a guess/hope
I'm thinking so too, surely it's only a matter of time now?!
Thank you
This makes me happy, i timed my upgrade poorly so it was just as they discontinued the pedals and has to make do without a load cell(didn't fancy being scalped online) and my god it's sensitive I'm braking by flexing my toes back and letting the natural curve of the ball of my foot move imperceptibility enough to press it haha so these are an absolute godsend to heavy footed twats like me
Torn between these and V3s
Mate, if you do decide to review that new logitech pro remember its a 2 man lift
lol Will do!
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Greetings indeed! :D
Do the new logitech 11 newtonmeter direct drive wheel
I'll get one in mate.
taht spring change out is much better compaired to the V3s as to change out the rubber springs on the V3s was a total bastard for me
Definitely!
Dude you need to play WRC10, way better than Dirt Rally and the ffb is immense.
I don't agree mate.
logitech g pro review pleaseeee
When available mate I'll get one in.
I actually don't understand what's Fanatec thinking here. They released LC pedals which are 200 EUR that they bundle with DD 0.5. Then they again spend R&D for making these Elite V2. While they are a step above LC entry offering, why didn't they spend R&D in some sort of better entry pedals that are upgradable to this kind of level? Price difference to consumer is small, so I don't understand why would you even buy LC. And if you add just a 100 EUR more, you can get DC pedals or go even higher. There are a lot of good loadcell pedals in 400-600 range, that are more customizable, upgradable, and looking more like hard core equipment than toys.
Second point: They still don't have proper high end pedals. V3 with performance and damper kit are not good pedals anymore. You can get better pedals if you just look around a little.
The only thing I can imagine is if you're already in Fanatec ecosystem and you need console support. But even here, I would ask you, what are you doing, buying expensive stuff and not using a PC. But to each his own. These pedals, not looking at the bigger picture, are good pedals, for a decent price, and looks are subjective.
These are TERRIBLE pedals! The cantilever loadcell design makes it very hard to brake consistently if your foot moves AT ALL. As Karl says: you get different pressure delivery to the load cell, depending upon where your foot is on the pedal. (7:00) If you can put your foot in the exact same place every time it would work, but no one does that. SOOO many better options out there. Avoid these like the plague!
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