Why Palpatine REFUSED to Ally with Maul & Make Him GRAND INQUISITOR
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The man survived getting cut in half and still conquered a space warrior cult.
Yeah I wouldn’t take any chances with maul either 😂
Also that he's a devilish looking Zabraak with horns, glowing eyes, is force sensitive and is a great dualist and fighter. Nah bruh... Not even coming close to him
@toxicgracie3772 Him becoming Grand Inquisitor Vader would probably attempt to join forces with him and that's not a good idea. Maul was never even taught the most powerful dark side abilities or Sith Alchemy, if he was he was more talented to accomplish more than Palpatine did with Plagueis.
@@lotuslife3239maul would take over that’s giving him a army
@@KING-tz6lo He already had a Criminal Empire at his beck and call, on Mandalore.
I'd say that he'd already have known one or two things about "command."
Don’t forget manz became a drug lord after the clone wars
I don't see why Maul didn't just write an anonymous letter saying Palpatine is the Sith lord and sending it to the Jedi.
Yeah, right.
Because paper doesn’t exist in Star Wars, and also, do you honestly think the Jedi (as dogmatic as they are in the prequels) would even listen to a former Sith Lord?
@@ulfberht4431 That's why I said an anonymous letter.
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The council has been known to be extremely stubborn. They wouldn’t trust the letter or email of an anonymous person. After all, it could be a ruse or a spy in their mind.
He hated the Jedi that's why
"You have become a rival....!"
And coming from Darth Sidious, that's not nothing.
One of my favourite Scene's in the Clone Wars.
"Have mercy. Please"
"I'm not going to kill you. I have...other ways to use you"
@@Ravenfanatic5 You said the THING!
@@aster4jaden couldn't help it lol
Formerly Darth, now just maul
"What fun. Lol WHAT FUN"
You can't have both your top commanders obsessed with killing Obi Wan
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Yeah lol
Dang thinking about it obi sure went up and made enemies with some of the most powerful beings in Star Wars. He went 1v1 against Vader/Anakin, Maul, Grievious and won! Only time we see him lose is against Count Dooku, but I think he could have avenged that lost by the 3rd movie since Anakin killed him instead.
@@123FUG33He only won, because of plot armor. He was a mediocre Jedi and, had the script followed on that, he would've been absolutely annihilated by Maul, let alone Grievous or Vader
@@normanosborn1277 come on now Kenobi was much better than that. Highly regarded as one of the greatest Jedi ever. And yes of course part of the plot of a made up character.
Maul is way more powerful than people give him credit for. He was the only true threat to the empire and vader until luke came along
I'm not sure he by himself was a threat to Vader.
Nah.
Sidious: "I always have to be extremely careful never to overtrain my subordinates an ounce more than necessary to do their jobs, or I'll be in trouble."
Valkorion: "Bitch please, I'm so powerful that I'll field a literal army of Sith because not even they could overthrow me with their power put together."
To be mildly fair, Valkorion did tend to either get rid of or bodyjack anyone powerful enough to threaten him - notably, look at what he did to Vaylin, to control her.
If I were Sidious, after killing his brother Maul would've been next.
"He's to dangerous to be left alive..."
Maul: Daddy no...
You as Sidious: Look at your brother, ur nex
Yes Maul was his adopted son
If I was sidious I would have sent darth Vader to kill maul
he honestly was 2 dangerous to be left alive for sidious as if the plot didnt require palpatine to become emperor maul would have 100 percent ruined palpatines plans. even with the plan he was forced to play along with due to plot reasons if anakin was simply on mandalore fighting maul palpatine wouldnt of had enough time to manipulate anakin and the jedi would of got sidious (at least mace windu would)
honestly i think sidious didnt want to team up with maul or allow him to join back (besides rule of two obviously) i think honestly sidious taught maul TOO well. going by canon’s continuity dooku was always just a place holder until anakin came along. but by sidious words maul was a lost. maul WAS a true apprentice of sidious ill say even more so than vadar.
even though sidious played both sides of the clone wars the fact that maul was able to STILL hide create his own army lead death watch etc. his longterm planning manipulation cunning and patience im sure he learned from his master. sidious called him a rival and he was way too dangerous to ignore. to even take his time away from being “palpatine” to handle maul himself says a lot.
One aspect that I think Maul had over Dooku and even Anakin was that being from Dathomir he had an almost symbiotic relationship with the Dark Side of the Force so it didn't take the same toll on his body.
Maul leading a third powerful faction to take on the New Republic and the Imperial Remanent would've been a hell of a lot better than the sequel trilogy we got.
Facts though
THE SECOND MANDALORIAN WARS!
As cool as that would be Maul had the perfect ending in Rebels though.
My idea would be, imagine Maul finding young Galen Marek, and taking him in as his Apprentice. Maul never goes to battle Kenobi, and instead recreates the Shadow Syndicate.
Darth Maul- Master
Star killer - Apprentice
I’m reminded of Shaak Ti’s quote from the Force Unleashed “Your power is wasted with him. You could be so much more!”
She said that to Maul? Geez, I missed that bit!!
@@frenzalrhomb6919 No she said that to Starkiller lol
2:32 It almost sounds like you're barely holding back laughter, and I love it.
That’s the first thing that came to my mind maul was a full fledged sith in his own right he even had the title of darth, if you think about it sideous acknowledged maul, he called him a rival
I like seeing Sidious flex as much as the next guy, but I thought it was straight up overkill.
It would have been more gratifying to see Sidious send Dooku to avenge his Qui-Gon.
Dooku could easily take them both on.
It would have been more tense and gratifying.
Now that would've been a battle to behold.
Maul and savage would have beaten dooku
Sidious dealing with it was better. Maul was a loose end that was just that important to deal with.Plus, the duel also had the plot purpose of hammering home for Maul that he has been replaced and cast aside, thus driving Maul to hate Sidious as much as he hates Obi-Wan.
Also the fight wouldn't be easy for Dooku. He had a slightly tough time fighting Savage and Ventress at once, and Maul is very much a better duelist than Ventress.
Also, just seeing Sidious flex at all is something so rare that it's great to see.
Dooku would lose against Maul And Savage together but he would be able to beat them on a individual basis due to superior force powers as well as saber combat and weaponry while Maul And Oppress have superiors in physicalitys and unarmed combat so that explains it yeah.
Obi-Wan constantly holds his own and against Maul. Even mutilated savage when they both ganged up on him.
I’ve never seen Obi-Wan get even close to beating Dooku.
Anakin beat Dooku then Obi beat Ani.
I think that’s enough said. ;^)
This is the man who not only had Dooku drop Ventris like a stone stone but orchestrated the entire genocide of the night sisters just because he was threatened by Dooku. Having an ex apprentice who arguably was every bit as strong as Dooku at least in terms of raw power would’ve been too much for Sidious to deal with, and he would’ve been constantly looking over his back expecting Darth Maul to betray him and take over honestly as cool as it might seem from a political and logistic perspective the last place that Sidious would ever want Maul would be in the role of grand inquisitor
We may never know what Sidious wanted to do with Maul. But my own headcanon is that he wanted to use Maul as a means to push Anakin into the Dark side. I think Sidious would have had Anakin hunt down Maul and eventually kill him in revenge for Maul killing Quigon. The longer it would have taken to find and kill Maul, the angrier Anakin would likely have become. A perfect way to build up Anakin's turn to the dark side.
The challenge was for Palpatine, if he truly was this impressive a Sith Lord/Master, to take on both Vader and Maul; he never wanted a rule of two, so having Vader constantly on his toes and Maul edging to rise up was a worthy test, equally for his Red Guards and his inate Sith skills to govern, control, dominate and suppress.
In this, Palpatine believed he was the final Sith; he'd subdued prophesy of the 'one who would bring balance' and unlike Vader and Maul, he was whole, without machine parts with the power of essence transfer to rule forever... Great video. Thanks so much.
I think the answer is super obvious and he even says it. “You have become a rival.”
Palpatine ABSOLUTELY made the right decision in not making Maul the Grand Inquisitor! He would have trained them up even more than what they already had and use them to try and overthrow the empire!
This is a great question thank you for reviewing it
"You have become a Rival" Is all you need to know lol
Because giving the strangely charismatic guy who despises you, who's only getting stronger, and whose mother took you, your apprentice, and your pet murder cyborg to finish off, a potential army of dark side users is not exactly what you'd call a good idea.
Who actually wants to see a second Solo movie with Maul showing himself as the main antagonist? 🤚
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Wait what did he actually say that in video?
@@darthsidius9631 nah I just making a joke
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Maul can't be an Inquisitor. he's already a sith
Trained by sith never became one
@@TristaHickman-t6u How was he not a Sith? I mean atleast before he was cut in half
@@toxicgracie3772 mainly because sidious made sure not to teach anyone to the point where they could surpass him...yes he had the title of darth but that was a false title anyone under Palpatine was just a dark jedi or acolyte in my opinion
@@TristaHickman-t6u Ehhh I see what you're saying but Darth Maul was definitely a Sith before and up until the moments of TPM. Darth would imply that Maul was a Sith Lord, not just a Sith. Because of rule of the 2, this makes sense. Although we know Maul was never an actual Sith Lord and that their were already 2 Sith Lords present not including Maul. But he definitely was still a Sith. Sure his abilities and overall potential were constrained so that he couldn't whoop Palp's ass but that doesn't mean he wasn't a Sith. It was clearly stated that Darth Maul was the first Sith seen in over 1000 years
@@toxicgracie3772 I like how u put it but for argument sake if I hadn't seen an angry darkside user in 1000 years I would assume the first guy with a red light saber was a sith at first too
“Knowledge is Power!”
Great video mate, Thankyou
Bro just answered a question I didn’t even know I wanted the answer to.
Being an inquisitor is a demotion from apprentice
1. Because Maul failed him in a over embarrassing way.
2. He had a currently more powerful apprentice in Dooku who was kept as insurance if Maul did not work out like if Maul either got crippled badly, got locked up in a high level guarded force takeaway jedi prison, or got executed he had Dooku around as a insurance replacement should Maul not go as planned which happened.
3. Maul was too loyal to Talzin And Savage as well as Dathomir to work for Sidious in full capacity even if not as a apprentice.
4. Anakin was meant to be his ultimate apprentice before his defeat on Mustafar yeah.
This video was talking about why he wasn’t made an INQUISITOR. Dooku, Savage, and Talzin have been long dead by that time💀
Was Dooku more powerful than Maul though?
First 2 incorrect maul was way more powerful than the count and Vader and palp embarrassed imself by not showing maul enough because he was scared of maul potential that’s why maul end up dying
Maul was a actual lost to palp your not a true start wats fan real Star Wars fans watch clone wars
@@KING-tz6loHe was a loss due to his potential in Canon he had one that was noted as higher then Talzins not current power levels during TPM Era it was suggested that Dooku was the more powerful of the two then once Maul got revived by Dathomirian Magicals and his body, mind, potential, and soul mostly fixed he became more powerful then his TPM Self and was still stated to not be on Dookus nor Vaders level of power he stood amongst them because of his willingness plus in a question of who was more skilled in saber combat between TCW Dooku And TCW Maul one of the writers said without a doubt that Dooku was more skilled so yeah.
Because they fucking hated each other, and Palpatine thought he was dead until Rebels, why is this even a question?
Do y’all notice him taking quick breaths ?
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My man sure is breathing in a lot
Excellent video!
the why is pretty obvious
Maul HATED PALPATINE even more then Obi Wan and that's saying something
plus unlike the Inquisitor Maul could genuinely be a rival to Palpatine if he got more training in the darkside
I’m in love with that idea now
Why are you taking heavy breaths so much throughout the video. I never noticed that in other videos if you have. Hope you are feeling good. Great video!!
Maul vs Obi-Wan Kenobi was awesome 😎
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Sidious made the right choice to not take Maul back because he was a rival to his goals of conquering the galaxy. If Palpatine had taken Maul back as his pupil, Maul would've overthrown him as Anakin had intended.
Perhaps one day, we could explore the advantages and disadvantages of certain lightsaber designs (double-bladed, saber staffs, crossguard, etc.).
This will be interesting 🤔👏
Yes Maul was still far too powerful to become an inquisitor, so that was out of the question for Palpetine.
So in the end, Mauls exile was is only option...
Maul have come truly terrifying in cannon and in what could have been cannon
Great pick out.
This is why we need Star Wars what if 😩
I think "other plans" where that Maul was maybe an final task for the young Vader
I would think that Sidious also felt disappointed that Maul lost in the first place to Obiwan. His failure to stop both a master and an apprentice collectively is what I think Sidious deemed a failure.
Plus, in Legends around the history during the phantom menace and before attack of the clone once both Sidious and Plagueis found out about the prophesy of the chosen one Anakin became the ultimate price for Sidious.
Originally, Maul was to be that great apprentice had he reached his full potential, but when Maul was defeated and Plagueis was killed at the same moment Sidious needed that new apprentice which was ultimately Anakin.
Thanks for this video I Finally got the answer to my question
Nice video
He doesn’t need that cheap spin feature on the inquisitors saber, but man, how freaking cool would that be? Darth Maul spinning around a spinning double bladed lightsaber. Darth Blender (chuckle)
Anyone else notice those huge breath intakes like the guy is being waterboard or stuck with a Vader respirator?
As far as I saw it
1. Maul wouldn’t have worked with Sidious as this point, so why would he?
2. As far as Maul saw it Palpatine abandoned and replaced him.
3. Mauls potential as far as I know goes beyond Palpatines, Talzins potential rivalled Palpatines and Mauls potential goes surpasses Talzins and in legends, Sidious says maul has the potential to surpass him, so he may have feared this possibility.
Maul wouldn’t have joined Palpatine and Sidious wouldn’t want to risk it firing back on him.
Maul only had the potential to surpass Sidious in Canon in Legends most sources say that Maul did not have that kind of potential because he was not Talzins child in Legends yeah.
Darth Maul's tenacity is truly something to be admired.
I’m so used to these videos being cut in a way you don’t hear breathing. So it sounds weird when I do hear it.
At this point maul wasn't fuckin with the sith anyway
@T.elegra.m_the_stupendouswave yo
It's often forgotten that Mandalore was the most influential member of the council of neutral systems in the clone wars, a group often forgotten. If Maul was allowed to continue, he could have influenced not just the criminal underworld, but thousands of Star systems.
Because sideous was all about the rule of one, despite saying rule of two
Darth Mauls initiation into the Sith as a Lord automatically disqualifies him as an inquisitor, in order to be one he’d have to be content with a lower position of power and authority. In order to become a Sith you have to truly hate your master, crave power and plan to overthrow him, that being said as a Sith Lord he cannot be trusted to stay in his lane, even knowing how much more powerful Sidious and Vader were his arrogance overpowers his rationality to make good judgment calls and we’ve seen that on multiple occasions, not to mention Sidious murdered his mother and brother so he would have never willingly kneeled to the empire. Its a shame too because Maul was inherently very powerful and if he were to join Sidious, I’m sure continued training with him and Vader would have only caused him to grow in power until his potential was finally met which would have been very interesting to see.
Sidious doesn't consider himself as a Dark Lord of the Sith anymore but above that position. This pissed off the Dark Lords on Korriban. Maul follows the Sith traditions and didn't need to learn from Palpatine anymore.
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[EARL the Salty SEAGULL:] "Short answer: Maul was actually trained in the ways of the Sith & would have likely sought to usurp Palpatine! Inquisitors weren't really trained in the ways of the Sith and were basically former Jedi turned Dark Jedi that Palpatine employed to hunt down the remaining Jedi & Padawans that escaped Order 66! Also I highly doubt Vader would have tolerated the existence of another Darth & former Apprentice to Palpatine, even though both hated Obi-Wan!"
The Grand Inquisitor does not have Maul's ambition .....nor does he have Maul's sensibility lol
Maul, in the span of a few weeks, went from a crippled and broken shell of a being, to usurping several criminal organizations as well as the homeworld of a warrior people, and taking his own apprentice. All of this done without ever ONCE receiving the training to do so.
When Sidious called Maul a rival, he meant it as a sign of respect.
Sidious got his use out of Maul before he escaped, contrary to what is stated in the video. Sidious was using Maul to get to Talzin and end her threat. Once he had accomplished that, he knew that Maul was of not nearly as much consequence.
Maul would never be a lacky like a. Inquisitor was .. especially the Grand Inquisitor.. Plus he would have to bow down to Vader and Mall was once The apprentice of sidious he would not except nothing less than apprenticeship to sidious or the title or the dark lord title itself
I dont see any scenario where maul would want to be just an inquisitor. Also hes much much stronger than them. Hes compareable to vader even if weaker theyre atleast in same realm of strength. Hed just battle vader for his apprenticeship and die
The main reason is because Palpatine doesn’t want share anything. Least of all power.
This just makes me so sad that we never got to see Maul as the main villain of the sequel trilogy! George Lucas' original plans just sounded so much better imo!
He knew too much
Can you do a full lore video on the Yuuzhan Vong at some point? They get mentioned in a lot of videos, but you don't have much info on them.
On one side, would have been cool...and following the mantra: keep your friends close and enemies closer, I agree it would have been unworkable
Hey, love your vids. I noticed that your breathing is heavier in this video and more visible than in other videos. Just want to make sure you are okay and I hope there isn’t anything wrong.
rebels just needed lightsaber bad guys.
Son of Dathomir was the use for Maul. He was meant to lure out Talzin, whom Sideous saw as a threat to his power.
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I feel Maul had wasted a chance to get Obi-wan to train him even just a little bit in the Jedi code. Learning to relax and become calm. This in a true light. Also Obi-wan could of learned from Maul to understand the dark side to a point of Jinn.
Maul was a friggin beast and Too big of a threat to be left alive
A really simple way of putting it..
Maul can’t be an inquisitor because Sidious respects him too much.
Bravo 👏🏽
Maul is Badass & his character throughout Star Wars is amazing🔥👍
He made the right choice.
I think if Palpatine had approached Maul after killing his brother and his mother and asked him to be the Grand Inquisitor renouncing the title of Darth and the rank of sith lord and serving under his replacement Darth Vader who Maul probably saw as a glorified droid, Maul would finally have found enough rage and hate to kill the old guy. He would have split him in 2 with the Dark saber. Also in the early days of the Empire when Vader was still getting used to his suit and refining his fighting style he wouldnt have stood a chance against Maul in a duel as this Vader was much weaker than ROTS Anakin.
Wouldn't stand a chance is pushing it, but I agree Maul would of had a major upper hand
I don't think it was George Lucas original plan to bring Darth Maul back but his popularity was so huge that he let Dave Filoni bring him back in The Clone Wars cartoon.
The Inquisitors were just cannon fodder, not trained to be a potential threat to either Banite Sith.
Maul developed an acient sith power that naturally produced on him cause of how much Hate he has but Palpatine saw it as a threat and confronted him before Maul ever became powerful.
If palpatine didn't attack maul on mandalore, rather used him to hold that position so the rise of the empire would come with the beskar steel and madalorian warriors, not only would jedi extermination be more efficient and guaranteed, but also allow a new source of clone dna to come about. Already we know palpatine to break from sith traditions, so allowing to go further to bend or break tradition and adopt even more apprentices, so they may competitively fight for the singular rank of master, which would not be outside his psychopathic and sadistic nature to do so. Especially between vader and maul. Maul would most likely give his brother brother the inquisitor position, and request to hunt jedi with grand inquisitor and perhaps even on occasion with vader, just to prove himself superior to vader and palpatine. He would even take responsibility on training the inquisitors given to him by palpatine as vader was pure talent in the force, while maul was skill, of which is much more attainable to achieve in training. This would certainly cause great infighting, especially if the events went as kenobi series, where maul and vader would be butting heads the entire time to kill obiwan. Assuming they don't end up killing one or the other, in the original trilogy I don't think would involve himself until he learned they maybe a jedi among the rebels, aka Luke. Otherwise he would be keeping crime organized on behalf of the empire, and occasionally looking for Obiwan, He will most likely not find the temple as Sidious would keep him occupied with other things. So we wouldn't see him until empire strikes back, again competing with vader to hunt jedi and vader smugly rubbing it in mauls face that he was the one who killed obiwan. From there till cloud city, maul would be stalking Vader, as he sense something, fear, desperation. Perhaps that vader was worried of being replaced, but only to learn that Luke is vaders son. A weakness to prey upon. Between then and return of the jedi I can't say for certain what would happen, but let's say Maul uses this information to taunt vader and even blackmail him, which is bringing their toxic rivalry to the boiling point, Maul even threating to kill Luke if he ever found him first, which definitely would result in a scuffle, that leads to vader to uses savages life to keep maul away, holding him up in the air with the force, threating to crush his wind pipe. This determination to keep Luke away from maul will certainly bring vader closer to the light. May even result in a 2v2 in the emperors chambers. Sidious just kicking back and enjoying the mayhem, Firmly believing vader is still within his control. Cause if he was that ignorant in the original movie, knowing full well that vader only joined the darkside to save his family, but still chose to attempt to vaporize Luke with lightning, then it would be no different here. I do believe that Luke and Vader will win, killing maul and savage, But the battle would take so long that Palpatine would notice the shields are down and that death star is about to blow up and make his escape. Vader will most likely survive, but not without serious wounds from mual. Vader will most likely defect but not to the rebels, he's free and he will do what he can to protect his son and make amends, no longer a slave to anyone. Not to say he won't be hunted, but he would most likely be busy taking down mauls criminal organization when he cannot accompany his son.
We know exactly what the "other uses" were. He wanted Maul to inadvertently lead him to mother talzin
Honestly, I think that Maul's rage was his biggest downfall. I think he would've eventually become a problem for Palpatine no matter what, and if he'd become the emporer I suspect he would've become paranoid without the next goal to focus on.
Too strong bro
As the Grand Inquisitor, Maul would only improve and grow in experience. And we all know one purpose of the Inquisitorius was searching for a possible replacement for Vader. He might be able to get to a point where he could replace Vader and retake his position as Sith Apprentice. So, he might very well have taken the long game and, really, he would have been an apprentice that never would have turned to the Light and throwing him down a reactor shaft. Maybe Sidious would have been better off had he gone that route, but not so much for Vader.
Maul wasn’t brought back from the dead….
I wonder if Maul might have been responsible for the creation/initial training of the Knights of Ren. We don't know exactly how long they had been in existence, but they already existed by the time of the OT. They weren't trained by Sidious, Vader, or any Imperial ally that we know of, so who else had sufficient Dark Side knowledge to train them....
Would have been interesting if Sidious decided to do away wit the rule of two and take Maul and Vader on as apprentices. Pitting them against one another likely would have kept them both busy and and out of Sidious' hair.
Or rally both to fight Sidious
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Maul Really need A LOT more lightsaber training. Because he loses a lot of fights
Darth maul wouldn’t beat Vader or sidious, but had the sith knowledge to where he could train all the inquisitors to their full potential, plus gather his underground empire and have Vader and sidious outnumbered. Is basically why it would be foolish to make maul a grand inquisitor, would be an awesome what if fan film to make
Legends continuity continues to prove why Disney were idiots for declaring it non canon. Maul being the new villain of the galaxy after the fall of the Empire would’ve been great. He’s one of the best characters in Star Wars and his story is captivating and interesting. But that’s the fumble of Disney
Simple, he was too powerful. He would never take orders from Vader. In fact he probably challenged him. If he ever came back he was too dangerous to be left alive.
Maul was too powerful and ambitious to be Grand Inquisitor.
This is very interesting. Maul is extremely powerful and smart. I completely agree,it was extremely dangerous if Maul became Grand Inquisitor. He had all ambitions and powers of a Sith. May the Force be with you too,have amazing day too
I think if Sidious had the opportunity. I believe Maul could have been repurposed to be a powerful Sith Stalker.