"When it's free jazz improvisation, people go "yay!" When it's technical/experimental metal they go "meh!" Them humans, what a strange species!" - Arctopus
The problem is people enjoy a good improvisation, this is not a good one you need to be opiniated to be able to appreciate it, hence the comments. If you wrote music after years you would understand everything you put in your songs matters, thats why pop music sounds simple to people, because its delicately crafted to be. I don't hear any composition in this one because the composers just slapped some patterns together then played them one by one. And it takes a experienced person or a nonbiased person to see and analyze lots of things wrong with these songs.
+Hakan Noel Good/bad art is subjective, so is music (even more so), let alone improvised music. However I can hear this music has some sort of structure, but even if it hadn't, it wouldn't matter to me anyway if it had been as awesome as this.
Jason Sheline I asked Colin if he would consider collaborating with Ron Jarzonbek. He said Ron is the man and they got to hang out at some of Ron's shows in Austin. So that's a soft "maybe". If Ron was up for it, I'm sure he'd quickly interpret chord and scale fragments, roll right with it, enjoying unusual time signatures and changes.
This band, along with Portal, are very misunderstood.. takes quite a few listens, but when it hits, it fukn hits hard! Scary precision, amazingly unrealistic tunes.. Much respect!
SolvingOurKreation I don't know man, they fucking floored me right away. First song I heard by them was Exospacial Psionic Aura, and it got me hooked immediately. The way they transform back and forth between harmony and chaotic beauty.
@@addystontuckerray2054 what makes a piece of art objectively bad? Some people are going to love this and some people won’t, neither are of the wrong opinion. It’s just their taste. I personally love behold the arctopus. Clearly everything they do is intentional and they don’t make this music to please the masses, they do it because it’s what they hear and what they’re inspired to do.
Many may find this baffling, but I like this song a lot and it really makes sense to me. Understandably, Behold the Arctopus have a sense of tonality that's alien to most, but having already been long acquainted with more traditional forms of dark and/or dissonant music, I'm seriously moved by what I'm hearing here.
It's alien because it's three guys playing solos attempting to make a song lol. None of them are bad musicians by any means but need to get on the same page vs being super focus on only what they are doing. I've been in many bands in my life but have never seen such a huge disconnect between bandmates.
I get you. I keep being drawn back to this. There are many pieces of music I would call a masterpiece. This isn't one of them, yet I hold it in equal regard because it moves me emotionally at a similar magnitude to masterpieces, just in a completely different direction. It's like comparing Magic to Black Magic. Music is like the positive emotional force, and this dissonant music is like the negative. Not to say it is bad, but it harnesses chaos rather than harmony to drive its power.
Why bash on them? They have been doing this for years now. They are all fantastic at their instruments. I'm sure they could play any song you threw at them. This is what it is suppose to sound like. You try playing like that on guitar. It's not as easy as it looks the "sloppiness" makes it unique in a way, just like Portal. I mean yeah they arnt a huge band like Animals As Leaders or whatever. It's Avant-Garde jazz/progressive metal. They enjoy doing it, and that's all that matters. Not to please all the ignorant people that comment on here.
Sounds great to me. These people probably like Kayne West.
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This band and Canvas Solaris are two of the most unique bands I've heard. Their music can be hard to listen to at times, but I can appreciate the technicality and originality of their music.
Remember that back to the future scene where the guy tells his friend hey you know that new sound you been looking for? well id be like her billy you know that time you ate those magic mushrooms and couldnt stop shitting and tripping your balls off well listen to this. that is what this reminds me of. has some trippy parts and some bad ass parts but lot of shitty parts too.
No need to defend this band to all the fucking trolls out there this music and this band are well respected in the metal world. Individually and collectively these musicians are masters of there craft and to do what they do is mindblowing and beyond anything I've ever heard. The bass player played on Gorguts' Colored Sands album - nothing like this but very technical and easilyy one of the best metal albums of 2013
Outstanding... ... Unreal musicianship Composition is pretty great too tbh.. Some of the off time arpeggios and tremolo moments between the more straightforward "riff" sections gave me goosebumps...
This is incredible in it's own right. Fuck people are dumb! At least recognize the musicianship going on here! These guys have some great moments in this song! I will say, however, I wouldn't rush out to buy the album.
+Mclasher18x Crazy time signatures, polyrhythms, and polyphonic melodies up the ass. Basically you need to ge to Berklee and Juilliard at the same time for like 10 years and practice writing this stuff so much that you can't remember what the sun looks like.
Listen to a band called Fermentor. They are playing on the same bill as Arctopus in San Diego this week. They are a two man instrumental metal band, very creative, a little avant garde but their roots are more firmly planted in metal. fermentor.bandcamp.com/
i'd bet a grand that any simpleton commenting negatively on this video is one of the opinionless mouth-breathers that stumbled across the bta video that came out a few years ago ironically titled 'worst band ever' or something like that. ironic title backfired because teenagers.
It literally did, because I came across that video and bought their albums immediately. As someone who has studied music and is hard to find stuff I haven't heard before, this was so refreshing.
dude they cut out a bunch of ol' boi's work on that chapman stick. probably because it sucked. I dunno, I tried hard to like these guys. for years. but I think it's just a gimmik that doesn't work.
WTF. Jazz-dissonant-fusion-atonal-polyrhytmical-lil wayne-game corruption-non sense-experimentalcore. It's pretty weird to see how extremely complex and dissonant music tends to sound like 10-year-old kids playing out of tune guitars and playing drums out of tempo. This band is the modern version of Arnold Schoenberg
xHeavenHelpUsAll7771x That's exactly what it sounds like if you have zero meaningful musical training or interests. Music for musicians, plebs like you need not apply.
LOL I'm a musician, I play 5 different instruments. I'd rather be a "pleb" than a pompous asshole who thinks he's better than other people just because he listens to a band made up of nothing but dissonance and complexity just for the sake of it.
xHeavenHelpUsAll7771x doesn't work for you* You don't want to be pompous but you make grand claims about things you evidently have little grasp of or interest in. A real musician would find this, even if slightly, interesting.
Oh my ... How i would love to be in this Band Practice room... and hear them talking about what to play.... Hey guys.. since we can play fast lets just play fast and not worry about a groove.. in fact we are anti-groove... let's not make anything musical. Just play whatever and we'll name it
yeah. the kind where you've been waiting to get home to release the unholy abomination that has been growing inside you for a whole day, and when you finally position yourself upon the throne and let loose, the relief is overpowering
There is no sense of musical composition or structure. Just and endless stream of "lol we write in dissonance, we're so cool". Yeah, that only works if there's resolution and actual song structure. It's why Steve vai is listenable and this isn't.
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I was humming this on in the shower yesterday.
+vjcharm I had "You Will be Reincarnated As an Imperial Attack Space Turtle" stuck in my head last week...
"When it's free jazz improvisation, people go "yay!" When it's technical/experimental metal they go "meh!" Them humans, what a strange species!" - Arctopus
+abmaximus Tons of people hate jazz improv, it is the butt of so many jokes at my college.
That's not the problem with the music itself, but the people who are incapable of setting their minds to it.
+abmaximus Arctopus is a flower, by the way :D
The problem is people enjoy a good improvisation, this is not a good one you need to be opiniated to be able to appreciate it, hence the comments. If you wrote music after years you would understand everything you put in your songs matters, thats why pop music sounds simple to people, because its delicately crafted to be. I don't hear any composition in this one because the composers just slapped some patterns together then played them one by one. And it takes a experienced person or a nonbiased person to see and analyze lots of things wrong with these songs.
+Hakan Noel Good/bad art is subjective, so is music (even more so), let alone improvised music. However I can hear this music has some sort of structure, but even if it hadn't, it wouldn't matter to me anyway if it had been as awesome as this.
I'd like to hear Ron Jarzombek sit in with these guys.
that would be sick!
Jason Sheline I asked Colin if he would consider collaborating with Ron Jarzonbek. He said Ron is the man and they got to hang out at some of Ron's shows in Austin. So that's a soft "maybe". If Ron was up for it, I'm sure he'd quickly interpret chord and scale fragments, roll right with it, enjoying unusual time signatures and changes.
This band, along with Portal, are very misunderstood.. takes quite a few listens, but when it hits, it fukn hits hard! Scary precision, amazingly unrealistic tunes.. Much respect!
"takes quite a few listens"
If you have managed to convince yourself of this, then you are fooling no one but yourself.
SolvingOurKreation I don't know man, they fucking floored me right away. First song I heard by them was Exospacial Psionic Aura, and it got me hooked immediately. The way they transform back and forth between harmony and chaotic beauty.
You can respect what they’re doing musically but also realize that it’s objectively bad
This is my first listen and I'm enjoying it a lot tbh.
@@addystontuckerray2054 what makes a piece of art objectively bad? Some people are going to love this and some people won’t, neither are of the wrong opinion. It’s just their taste. I personally love behold the arctopus. Clearly everything they do is intentional and they don’t make this music to please the masses, they do it because it’s what they hear and what they’re inspired to do.
this almost made me cry. if nature spoke with instruments, it would sound like this.
The moment they got a drummer they transitioned from being utter shit to being absolutely badass.
I believe he was just playing in a different time of tempo
Many may find this baffling, but I like this song a lot and it really makes sense to me. Understandably, Behold the Arctopus have a sense of tonality that's alien to most, but having already been long acquainted with more traditional forms of dark and/or dissonant music, I'm seriously moved by what I'm hearing here.
Euphoric by your own enlightenment
It's alien because it's three guys playing solos attempting to make a song lol. None of them are bad musicians by any means but need to get on the same page vs being super focus on only what they are doing. I've been in many bands in my life but have never seen such a huge disconnect between bandmates.
I get you. I keep being drawn back to this. There are many pieces of music I would call a masterpiece. This isn't one of them, yet I hold it in equal regard because it moves me emotionally at a similar magnitude to masterpieces, just in a completely different direction. It's like comparing Magic to Black Magic. Music is like the positive emotional force, and this dissonant music is like the negative. Not to say it is bad, but it harnesses chaos rather than harmony to drive its power.
@@Thriving257 come again?
@@Thriving257 ummm... who are you to judge?
Adolf Hipster can really shred that guitar.
Why bash on them? They have been doing this for years now. They are all fantastic at their instruments. I'm sure they could play any song you threw at them. This is what it is suppose to sound like. You try playing like that on guitar. It's not as easy as it looks the "sloppiness" makes it unique in a way, just like Portal. I mean yeah they arnt a huge band like Animals As Leaders or whatever. It's Avant-Garde jazz/progressive metal. They enjoy doing it, and that's all that matters. Not to please all the ignorant people that comment on here.
no one is saying it isn't easy to play, they're saying it sounds shit
True. A lot of people will think any sort of music sounds like shit. You kinda either like them or you dont lol.
Ollie Medlow It's supposed to
Sounds great to me. These people probably like Kayne West.
This band and Canvas Solaris are two of the most unique bands I've heard. Their music can be hard to listen to at times, but I can appreciate the technicality and originality of their music.
No clue how Weasel keeps that beat going starting at 8:15
I'm gonna spam this in these videos. Thanks a lot for the footage! Would be nice to see more videos like this. Mike Lerner please do more Direwolf!!!
Yes, more Direwolf!!!
yeah , that's pretty awesome , but can you play Smoke on The Water ?
Im pretty sure they know that one........This message brought to you by Sarcastitext.
Made me think of that Kids In The Hall skit.lol,great
I seem to remember weasel walter saying that this, or one of the other tech bands he was in, was an attempt to write and play nearly impossible music
Remember that back to the future scene where the guy tells his friend hey you know that new sound you been looking for? well id be like her billy you know that time you ate those magic mushrooms and couldnt stop shitting and tripping your balls off well listen to this. that is what this reminds me of. has some trippy parts and some bad ass parts but lot of shitty parts too.
Amazing song! Can't believe how well they pull off such crazy discordant songs.
Yeah......
groove starting at 8:17 is almost too much to handle
that sounds actually pretty sick x)
Something tells me you don't know the first thing about "groove." This is shit.
Yes! Man, they really should get some crazy sax or synth soloing over that part, it would be mind blowing
No need to defend this band to all the fucking trolls out there this music and this band are well respected in the metal world. Individually and collectively these musicians are masters of there craft and to do what they do is mindblowing and beyond anything I've ever heard. The bass player played on Gorguts' Colored Sands album - nothing like this but very technical and easilyy one of the best metal albums of 2013
are you talking about the guy eith the huge guitar
@@memetaillica you do know that’s a bass right?
Fantastic!
...plus outstanding playing attitude
Awesome band!!!!
Amazing.
Outstanding...
...
Unreal musicianship
Composition is pretty great too tbh..
Some of the off time arpeggios and tremolo moments between the more straightforward "riff" sections gave me goosebumps...
outstanding composition.
What the fuck?
This is incredible in it's own right. Fuck people are dumb! At least recognize the musicianship going on here! These guys have some great moments in this song! I will say, however, I wouldn't rush out to buy the album.
Fairest comment yet.
The solo is a bunch of random noise (as is most of their music).... sorry. Its awful
The first time I heard them I thought “What a shitt* band”. But I listened to this song till the end, and it sounds great. Amazing!
There is still no one as good as these guys
This was interesting, would rather listen to this than most Shit being played.
BTA videos are the most fertile ground for shitposting on the internet.
Instant classic.
kickn' ass
crazy bastards of da noise! love the arctopus
Setlist anyone ? Thank you
Непередаваемый словами восторг во время и после прослушивания!
That was fucking incredible. Props to the drummer! Holy fuck.
This band is insaaaaaane
PEAK OF THE SACRED stuff, these cats are veritable aliens, their levels of dexterity and overall technical prowess are really something to behold.
Fuck yeah.
Listening to this song, I'm wondering if they could have influenced Artificial Brain. Some melodic ideas seem similar. Great composition by the way.
There sure are some similar vibes going on, both of AB's albums were engineered by Colin! AB kinda sounds like a death metal version of Krallice
They recorded with Colin Marston, so, probably.
makes gorguts sound like 3 chord punk.
I was just listening to Pleiades Dust earlier today, funnily enough...I think gorguts now sounds more like dysrhythmia than anything else...
Funny thing is Collin (the bass player) is in gorguts.
best guys
It would be nice if there was more structure. Its be really cool because its totally different.
its rejoicing!
i need the tab :D
great odins' beard that's a fat axe !
Jazz metal at its finest...........And go!
great, top of the food chain New School Metal-----
Holy shit this is amazing! but how is this sound even possible?
+Mclasher18x Crazy time signatures, polyrhythms, and polyphonic melodies up the ass. Basically you need to ge to Berklee and Juilliard at the same time for like 10 years and practice writing this stuff so much that you can't remember what the sun looks like.
The drummer is fucking ACE.
Beautfull song! Fucking Nice!
Listen to a band called Fermentor. They are playing on the same bill as Arctopus in San Diego this week. They are a two man instrumental metal band, very creative, a little avant garde but their roots are more firmly planted in metal. fermentor.bandcamp.com/
Fuck. This music sounds like the soundtrack to a really bad amphetamine come down.
That bass is thicker than a snicker
EVERYBODY TWIST!
How do you perceive this music.... I cant understand what the fuck happening
And John Zorn...that would be nuckin futz.
I liked the lyrics best
I get it. And I like it. Would I listen to it while watering he flowers? No. Lol
Jason Bateman on the drums!
Holy shit it almost starts to make sense at the end but then... Nope.
I like this band, but this one?
I don't think I could get into this xD
That's absolutely fine, I prefer Colin's other bands personally, but I come to BtA from time to time for some controlled nastiness.
HELP.
Holy Shit are they BACK????
i hope! they need a new drummer though, this one left
man, that wrong note in the middle really ruined the song for me...
+Calvin Lee That botched sweep? Yeah, sounded bad to me too.
Benteiron i was joking. he's a thousand times better than me as a player, so i'm not actually going to say anything negative about him.
I know you were joking, but I found it funny how there actually was one bad note in the middle of the song :P
i'd bet a grand that any simpleton commenting negatively on this video is one of the opinionless mouth-breathers that stumbled across the bta video that came out a few years ago ironically titled 'worst band ever' or something like that. ironic title backfired because teenagers.
It literally did, because I came across that video and bought their albums immediately. As someone who has studied music and is hard to find stuff I haven't heard before, this was so refreshing.
OMG. LOL. FYI..opinion
TGIF..like..like..opinion about music inserted and posted.
these guys can join rise records. they are up to par with the rest of those bands in there omg lol...
Hey, djentkid, the adults are talking. Get out of here.
djent is totally a genre Not really, I listen to mostly prog-type stuff and its derivatives.
You're just an idiot.
I am an idiot because I think this pile of dog shit sounds bad? Lol.
OGShively and don't call me an idiot again or else you might hurt my feelings...
Too much tonality...
dude they cut out a bunch of ol' boi's work on that chapman stick. probably because it sucked. I dunno, I tried hard to like these guys. for years. but I think it's just a gimmik that doesn't work.
The guitarist looks like a hobbit.
This is garbage. Commit it!
Pokemon glitch music much?
This new drummer is boring
WTF. Jazz-dissonant-fusion-atonal-polyrhytmical-lil wayne-game corruption-non sense-experimentalcore. It's pretty weird to see how extremely complex and dissonant music tends to sound like 10-year-old kids playing out of tune guitars and playing drums out of tempo. This band is the modern version of Arnold Schoenberg
xHeavenHelpUsAll7771x
You mean the Schoenberg who is one of the most respected music theorists in history?
xHeavenHelpUsAll7771x That's exactly what it sounds like if you have zero meaningful musical training or interests. Music for musicians, plebs like you need not apply.
LOL I'm a musician, I play 5 different instruments. I'd rather be a "pleb" than a pompous asshole who thinks he's better than other people just because he listens to a band made up of nothing but dissonance and complexity just for the sake of it.
Yeah...his music still sounds like crap. Atonality should have never existed IMO. It just doesn't work.
xHeavenHelpUsAll7771x doesn't work for you*
You don't want to be pompous but you make grand claims about things you evidently have little grasp of or interest in. A real musician would find this, even if slightly, interesting.
FFS at least get a bassist
... and get one named 'Cleve St. John' - I mean, think about it; have you ever heard a better name for a bassist than 'Cleve St. John' ??
a dedicated bassis would make them much too coherent
Coherence will forever elude these three.
Al Dentay
Indeed, whether it be a curse or blessing. As it should be.
Thus the sages speaketh.
this is why ppl call this music trash
Oh my ... How i would love to be in this Band Practice room... and hear them talking about what to play.... Hey guys.. since we can play fast lets just play fast and not worry about a groove.. in fact we are anti-groove... let's not make anything musical. Just play whatever and we'll name it
This is auditive diarrhea
yeah. the kind where you've been waiting to get home to release the unholy abomination that has been growing inside you for a whole day, and when you finally position yourself upon the throne and let loose, the relief is overpowering
OMG We got a badass over here.
Disgusting
Hmm?
This band is horrible!
God this band is awful.
And yet I love it. Huh.
Michael McCuin How?
I enjoy discordian compositions because I'm fucking nuts.
Michael McCuin It's not a composition, it's just random beats.
You're basing that off western compositional values. "Music" is a broad term.
There is no sense of musical composition or structure. Just and endless stream of "lol we write in dissonance, we're so cool". Yeah, that only works if there's resolution and actual song structure. It's why Steve vai is listenable and this isn't.
you are a moron. read this, you fucking dipshit. www.moderndrummer.com/2012/11/weasel-walter-behold-arctopus-drummer-blog/
your mom is unlistenable.
You're wrong, but I trust that since it's a 6 years old comment, your understanding of music has further matured and developed to understand.
Fucking majestic.