A great first show, Jim / James/ Cardi K! I love how everything you say comes from the heart. I've enjoyed the tongue-in cheek captions that reflect your contagious humor, and how you explain the fun we'll have together. I also love the fact that you don't shy away from trying to find the deeper, spiritual reason for how Billy has 'stung' some of us... 😉 As for me, he literally imposed himself in my blog stories, when I was saying goodbye in writing to my dear friend, the Chicano writer Rudy Anaya, after he passed. Rudy, born and raised in New Mexico and forever in love with the state, was also passionate about Billy, as you know... Billy loved reading, and I can tell you he still does, and his spirit loves shifting a writer's 'plan' when necessary... I am thrilled about this new opportunity to get to know the community better, and to learn new things about 'our' Kid! Congratulations! 🤩
I'm loving this show already! Briefly, I was sucked in by YG 1 and 2 also, and fully believed at first that Brushy was Billy. I've long since changed my mind on that. To me, BtK is one of the most fascinating historical persons. Why does everyone care so much? What is the attraction? The more I learn, the more I'm hooked. Really looking forward to learning more here!
So happy to find you, James! Looking forward to all your shows! I just have a fascination with Billy that started when we moved to New Mexico from California. I have read 5 books, and have been to Ft Sumner, Lincoln and all locations where he may have visited. I cannot explain it, but I love the story, I think he was an exceptional human being. I don't condone things he did but try to understand why he did them. Congrats and Thank you! I've been missing all the nice people I felt like I knew from the Chat! Can't get enough BTK !
James, I'm very glad to see this channel getting started. I'd been tipped off that it was coming, but still I got here two weeks late. You were certainly missed over "there," but congratulations on your return to this medium and I am looking very much forward to the future content. As for what got me started, I knew nothing about Billy the Kid but that he was an "outlaw" killed by Pat Garrett. I'd not seen any of the films and, if I'd been asked, I'd have assumed the Kid was just another Jesse James type: robbing banks, trains or stage coaches. Then I saw Bill O'Reilly's Legends and Lies episode. That was the first time I learned of Billy's relationship with Tunstall, the murder and the Lincoln County War. Suddenly, he was a figure far more complex, far less "outlaw" and more actual human being. Of course, that also got me started on the Brushy Bill Roberts path, but I got over it... thanks to the healing medication received in the form of actual reality, facts, history and all that good stuff. I've now made my first trip to Fort Sumner and will be in Lincoln for a visit this month. I'm a Coalition member and subscribed here now. Glad to see many friends from the community in these comments: Amy, Mel, navydogs, Misty and many others. Feels like "home" already!
Hey Cardigan Kid, I watched you on the other podcast too. I stumbled onto some cool Billy videos on RUclips. Heard the Brushy story and got super sucked into the Billy history. I want the truth and no BS when it comes to history. Glad to see you again. Been waiting for your channel to start. Super excited!
I have studied Henry for many yrs now.Henry was younger then ppl believe he was. He never made it to age 21. He was more then likely 18 or 19. He also didn't kill 21 ppl. Maybe three or four. I was raised knowing all about Henry. I was always more interested in what happened to his brother, and how did history get it wrong that Henry was younger then his brother, Henry was older then his brother
Leave it to me to save the intro video for nearly last. BUT since you asked... Young Guns came out when I was 15 and for me it was instant love. Moviewise, I just loved the hell out of the Kid. Of course I did; I was a wild child teenage girl. This led me to finding out everything I could historically, which admittedly wasn't much. It was 1988 and I didn't understand why anyone would sit around waiting for their dial-up when it was quicker to walk to the library and thumb through a book. Not joking. Also I only knew one person with a computer and she wasn't interested in anything scholastic.😅Anyway, the more I learned about Billy the more I realized the shocking amount of parallels in our early histories -- you know, except for the shooting. I lived in Detroit but I wasn't shooting anyone. Suddenly Billy wasn't just some cute movie star -- he was kindred. And he had my whole heart. I didn't tell a soul; this isn't shocking because I never talked to anyone about my personal affairs and I wouldn't expose myself by talking about Billy the Kid. People always ask Why? I wasn't ready for Why back then. When Young Guns 2 came out I was disappointed. After what I'd learned (and the things I'd already experienced) it just didn't ring true for me at all. Emilio Estevez, now emboldened with the original hit, seemed to pantomime the sequel into caricature territory. I was annoyed with the Brushy theory because he reminded me of every old man who told so many tall tales he'd have to be 120 years old to live them all. He didn't sound any different than the guys who sit around drinking at the VFW. I thought the movie took away Billy's dignity in death by letting some old man steal and retell his story. Then I found out about John Miller. At that time the book was out of print but a nice lady at Barnes & Noble called around for me and sent me 30 minutes across town to a sketchy little bookstore in Royal Oak. I didn't have a car and back then (as well as now) and there is no real public transportation in Detroit. It was a bloated, sprawling city then. As you know, it's lost a lot of weight. It took me 2 weeks to find a ride to that bookstore but the next lady, equally as nice, had saved it for me. SO glad for the internet. While I found John Miller a far better candidate, this didn't add up for me either. One of the earliest lessons I learned was that wanting something to be true didn't make it true. Sounds simple but I don't think a lot of people learn that. Less than a year later I found myself punted out of Detroit due to circumstance and basically dropped onto the island of Key West, where I had a relative. For maybe a minute. Then I was on my own. There are worse places to wind up. Key West in the 90s/00s was as close to the Old West in modern times as you could get -- people from everywhere who've struck out for one reason or another found themselves at the bottom of the world, on an island of fellow misfits. So I learned to play cards, tend bar and got comfortable. Hell, even my barber was a traditional Old West barber with some medical training and a licence to deal firearms. Gosh, it's so different there now. Corporate. I digress. A lot. Sorry. I left about 15 years or so ago. My point is, the parallels continued and I was so damn young (and looked even younger). I didn't know what to do or who to be. So I decided to become Billy the Kid, at least in spirit. It was my way of keeping myself safe while trying to find my tribe. Read the room, become amenable, always be respectful and do your job, speak from your heart, know when to be tough (and when to make an example if necessary), and when to let someone slide. Billy gave me so much. He *was* my coping mechanism. I didn't forget about him one single day -- and now I'm 50. So I guess in a roundabout way you could say that Billy the Kid (or my idea of him) saved my life, right when I needed it most. So when someone like Dan sits on My island and strips the dignity from My mentor, if I can sit on my feelings and be respectful, anyone can. People like that always, always weed themselves out. If Key West is still any part of what she used to be she doesn't suffer dishonesty. Criminal activity, yes. But not dishonesty. The time will come. Sorry for the book. And nice to meet you, Cardi K!
The obsession is crazy , spending years researching … Billy because he wasn’t a real ordinary criminal , he didn’t rob banks or trains . But the kid could handle himself . I have interest in all old history but billy is unparalleled . The fact he was obviously brimming with personality and how he could handle himself .. im tired of. Typing but .. great bit u did here look forward to watching
I just got Paramount Plus, and noticed that there's a series about Billy-the-kid. My question is: Is it the typical Hollywood tripe, or is there a strong effort to make it realistic ??
🤠Congrats James, good to see you up & running! 3.30am in London worth staying up for! 🤠 🎉🤠🎉🤠🎉
Thanks so much, Misty.
@@chasingbillyyour most welcome James! 🤠 👍
I should have guessed you’d be up at this ridiculous time Misty! 😂
A great first show, Jim / James/ Cardi K! I love how everything you say comes from the heart. I've enjoyed the tongue-in cheek captions that reflect your contagious humor, and how you explain the fun we'll have together. I also love the fact that you don't shy away from trying to find the deeper, spiritual reason for how Billy has 'stung' some of us... 😉
As for me, he literally imposed himself in my blog stories, when I was saying goodbye in writing to my dear friend, the Chicano writer Rudy Anaya, after he passed. Rudy, born and raised in New Mexico and forever in love with the state, was also passionate about Billy, as you know... Billy loved reading, and I can tell you he still does, and his spirit loves shifting a writer's 'plan' when necessary...
I am thrilled about this new opportunity to get to know the community better, and to learn new things about 'our' Kid!
Congratulations! 🤩
Thanks, my friend!
@@chasingbilly ¡de nada, amigo!
I'm loving this show already! Briefly, I was sucked in by YG 1 and 2 also, and fully believed at first that Brushy was Billy. I've long since changed my mind on that. To me, BtK is one of the most fascinating historical persons. Why does everyone care so much? What is the attraction? The more I learn, the more I'm hooked. Really looking forward to learning more here!
I agree on all points!!
You’re my boy Blue!
Welcome back Cardi K! Great first video! 🎉🎉🎉
So exciting, James, great job!
Looking forward to this so much.
Had to come by and subscribe
Thank you! Looking forward to next time.
Thanks!!
So happy to find you, James! Looking forward to all your shows! I just have a fascination with Billy that started when we moved to New Mexico from California. I have read 5 books, and have been to Ft Sumner, Lincoln and all locations where he may have visited. I cannot explain it, but I love the story, I think he was an exceptional human being. I don't condone things he did but try to understand why he did them. Congrats and Thank you! I've been missing all the nice people I felt like I knew from the Chat! Can't get enough BTK !
I can’t explain the “Billy phenomenon” either. But it’s something that just takes hold of some of us. Glad you’re along for the ride!
James, I'm very glad to see this channel getting started. I'd been tipped off that it was coming, but still I got here two weeks late. You were certainly missed over "there," but congratulations on your return to this medium and I am looking very much forward to the future content.
As for what got me started, I knew nothing about Billy the Kid but that he was an "outlaw" killed by Pat Garrett. I'd not seen any of the films and, if I'd been asked, I'd have assumed the Kid was just another Jesse James type: robbing banks, trains or stage coaches. Then I saw Bill O'Reilly's Legends and Lies episode. That was the first time I learned of Billy's relationship with Tunstall, the murder and the Lincoln County War. Suddenly, he was a figure far more complex, far less "outlaw" and more actual human being. Of course, that also got me started on the Brushy Bill Roberts path, but I got over it... thanks to the healing medication received in the form of actual reality, facts, history and all that good stuff. I've now made my first trip to Fort Sumner and will be in Lincoln for a visit this month. I'm a Coalition member and subscribed here now.
Glad to see many friends from the community in these comments: Amy, Mel, navydogs, Misty and many others. Feels like "home" already!
Thanks so much Rollin!
Great job, James! I enjoyed your first show.
Hey Cardigan Kid, I watched you on the other podcast too. I stumbled onto some cool Billy videos on RUclips. Heard the Brushy story and got super sucked into the Billy history. I want the truth and no BS when it comes to history. Glad to see you again. Been waiting for your channel to start. Super excited!
Good to see you on here!
@@chasingbilly Can't wait for more Billy info. Thank you!
Hello James, can't wait for more.
Young guns 2? Both were good movies. I’ve been a billy fanatic since the 1970’s. Even had the old comic books.
Ready, get set, let's go.
I have studied Henry for many yrs now.Henry was younger then ppl believe he was. He never made it to age 21. He was more then likely 18 or 19. He also didn't kill 21 ppl. Maybe three or four. I was raised knowing all about Henry. I was always more interested in what happened to his brother, and how did history get it wrong that Henry was younger then his brother, Henry was older then his brother
Well Done!!!
Leave it to me to save the intro video for nearly last. BUT since you asked...
Young Guns came out when I was 15 and for me it was instant love. Moviewise, I just loved the hell out of the Kid. Of course I did; I was a wild child teenage girl. This led me to finding out everything I could historically, which admittedly wasn't much. It was 1988 and I didn't understand why anyone would sit around waiting for their dial-up when it was quicker to walk to the library and thumb through a book. Not joking. Also I only knew one person with a computer and she wasn't interested in anything scholastic.😅Anyway, the more I learned about Billy the more I realized the shocking amount of parallels in our early histories -- you know, except for the shooting. I lived in Detroit but I wasn't shooting anyone. Suddenly Billy wasn't just some cute movie star -- he was kindred. And he had my whole heart. I didn't tell a soul; this isn't shocking because I never talked to anyone about my personal affairs and I wouldn't expose myself by talking about Billy the Kid. People always ask Why? I wasn't ready for Why back then.
When Young Guns 2 came out I was disappointed. After what I'd learned (and the things I'd already experienced) it just didn't ring true for me at all. Emilio Estevez, now emboldened with the original hit, seemed to pantomime the sequel into caricature territory. I was annoyed with the Brushy theory because he reminded me of every old man who told so many tall tales he'd have to be 120 years old to live them all. He didn't sound any different than the guys who sit around drinking at the VFW. I thought the movie took away Billy's dignity in death by letting some old man steal and retell his story.
Then I found out about John Miller. At that time the book was out of print but a nice lady at Barnes & Noble called around for me and sent me 30 minutes across town to a sketchy little bookstore in Royal Oak. I didn't have a car and back then (as well as now) and there is no real public transportation in Detroit. It was a bloated, sprawling city then. As you know, it's lost a lot of weight. It took me 2 weeks to find a ride to that bookstore but the next lady, equally as nice, had saved it for me. SO glad for the internet. While I found John Miller a far better candidate, this didn't add up for me either. One of the earliest lessons I learned was that wanting something to be true didn't make it true. Sounds simple but I don't think a lot of people learn that.
Less than a year later I found myself punted out of Detroit due to circumstance and basically dropped onto the island of Key West, where I had a relative. For maybe a minute. Then I was on my own. There are worse places to wind up. Key West in the 90s/00s was as close to the Old West in modern times as you could get -- people from everywhere who've struck out for one reason or another found themselves at the bottom of the world, on an island of fellow misfits. So I learned to play cards, tend bar and got comfortable. Hell, even my barber was a traditional Old West barber with some medical training and a licence to deal firearms. Gosh, it's so different there now. Corporate. I digress. A lot. Sorry. I left about 15 years or so ago.
My point is, the parallels continued and I was so damn young (and looked even younger). I didn't know what to do or who to be. So I decided to become Billy the Kid, at least in spirit. It was my way of keeping myself safe while trying to find my tribe. Read the room, become amenable, always be respectful and do your job, speak from your heart, know when to be tough (and when to make an example if necessary), and when to let someone slide. Billy gave me so much. He *was* my coping mechanism. I didn't forget about him one single day -- and now I'm 50. So I guess in a roundabout way you could say that Billy the Kid (or my idea of him) saved my life, right when I needed it most.
So when someone like Dan sits on My island and strips the dignity from My mentor, if I can sit on my feelings and be respectful, anyone can. People like that always, always weed themselves out. If Key West is still any part of what she used to be she doesn't suffer dishonesty. Criminal activity, yes. But not dishonesty. The time will come. Sorry for the book. And nice to meet you, Cardi K!
Great intro, Lovin the content so far
Appreciate it!
The obsession is crazy , spending years researching … Billy because he wasn’t a real ordinary criminal , he didn’t rob banks or trains . But the kid could handle himself . I have interest in all old history but billy is unparalleled . The fact he was obviously brimming with personality and how he could handle himself .. im tired of. Typing but .. great bit u did here look forward to watching
Im loving your new show !! Ive subscribed ,,whatever happened to you and MAG ? You just seem to have faded away and now hes gone ??
I am no longer affiliated with nor do I endorse any endeavors undertaken by MAG.
I just got Paramount Plus, and noticed that there's a series about Billy-the-kid. My question is: Is it the typical Hollywood tripe, or is there a strong effort to make it realistic ??
Basically it’s tripe. I’ve got a review of episode one from the first season coming out soon.
What part of WV are you from?
St. Albans