Batarang? Nothing for the iron suit. Nope, Electric batarang. Hah lmao, that just charges me. Well the batarang can explode though. *Boom* this suit of armour has survived much worse. But, the explosion is also an EMP It doesn't need-
@@kkTeaz it has emp proof armor but now i can hide in the darkness of the out of power city i have night vision my cape and conceal me anywhere infrared too my cape can block that too jarvis can always detect a target, even if they're invisible but i'm gone well, i can follow you i have multiple hideouts across the world and i have the internet at my disposal, i can track you down not if i track you down first i live in a giant tower with my name on it, you think i'm not gonna have defenses? i can disable them emp proof too who says i'm using an emp i can remotely control them and even fix them within seconds well, your tower's bought by me i can buy it back you can't outbid me forever i make millions of dollars each day so do i...
Batman vs Ironman Two armored genius billionaire orphans who have an ego the size of Mount Everest Doctor Doom vs Lex Luthor Two genius villains who seek world domination and unlimited knowledge
Hostile take over stark industries a wholey owned subsidery of wayne industries How would batman take out black widow? Batman wouldnt, Bruce Wayne would , probably someplace with 8 or 9 micheline stars and a wine list that starts at 4 figures.
I mean, DC has done their damndest in recent years to make Batman the most powerful hero on their roster. Not saying that's neccessarily a good thing, but it certainly is a thing.
he was called one of the smartest and most strategic minds in the universe by a guy literally makes and destroys universes so yeah. the movie version of batman you're accustom to is not an accurate portrayal in the least. with planning and strategy, batman has beaten gods and multiverse level characters.
Good that Batman doesn´t use bullets... Pretty sure he would only go to take Hulk out of the picture by immobilizing him. Freezing or some kind of hard but flexible polymer.
@Owen Jennings What makes you say that? Because from everything I've scene, comic Hulk is infinitely more overpowered. Which seems to rain true for most of the comic versions of characters.
I feel like Spider-Man would be a really tough fight for Batman. His weaknesses aren’t that obvious when fighting him. He doesn’t need to swing or stick to walls to be a tough fight because in combat, he can definitely handle himself with some of the strongest in Marvel and DC. And his Spider-Sense could save him from anything he can’t handle.
*File retrieved from Batcave vault* Avengers Contingency **Captain America:** Develop viral anti-serum. Blood Sample on file. **Hulk:** Create Fear Toxin derivative to cause phobia against rage. **Thor:** Post-hypnotic suggestion that he is unworthy of his birthright **Hawkeye:** Blindness and motor neuron disease. **Black Widow:** Examine Red Room Protocol for Killswitch Command. Protocol files in database X35. Override and / or Compliance Commands allow use as diversion for additional targets. **Ant-Man / Wasp:** Compromise suit shrinking apparatus to shrink suit only. **Black Panther:** Match sonic resonance of vibranium in suit. Vibranium sample in Vault V323. Utilize rotating harmonic fields to disrupt suit at molecular level. Include harmonic algorithms for human flesh in field program. **Winter Soldier:** Utilize and adapt Black Widow Contigency. **Captain Marvel:** Utilize Tetch neural tech to co-opt visual cortex and cause any creature viewed to become a hated enemy. **Iron Man:** Drinking Contest
*Scarlet Witch* Arcane resonator: a device that release an electromagnetic vibration attuned to the frequency of energies emanating from outer planes. Attune the resonator to Chaos Magic frequencies, disabling Wanda's source of power.
And yet, rage can source from fear. Would that fear toxin even work? Hmm.... At the least, it would definitely distract him, and make the Hulk unstable.
More of these needed parallel ecamples to similar threats in DC otherwise they are just statements that Batman wins. Usually Banner turns into the Hulk when harmed. The best bet would be to launch Hulk in space. Batman would be a dangerous villain but I'm not sure he'd beat everyone. Black Widow was given pretty good odds to survive an attack regroup then work against Bats. The best he has in these scenarios is surprise. Batman is my favorite hero but saying he can beat everyone isn't necessary. Also Batman loses to villains all the time so it's a good chance he'd lose to at least one avenger. My money is on Black Widow for skill, Hawkeye for being underestimated or Hulk because he attacks Banner.
I did like his idea about manipulating Thor into making himself unworthy. That one has some legs to it, too bad Jules just made it a throwaway comment and spent all his time on “hEy It WoRkEd On DaRkSeId!!!”
This is why I love Marvels characters so much. They don’t have traditional cliche weaknesses. They have vulnerabilities, which makes them interesting to read
I mean, Superman has very much vulnerabilities holding himself to a proper standard when he's essensially a god among humans raised by a loving family. It doesn't come up often in the world level stories, but in the more down to earth human stories of Superman, he's very empathetic. He can hear so much pain and anguish across the world and he simply has to live with it. Superman Vs The Elite, based on the comic "What's so fun about Truth, Justice and the American Way" (have not read it) shows how Superman need to self police himself to be the best he can be. I love the characters of both Marvel and DC for being filled with interesting characters with vulnerabilities. It's kinda sad how Superman's more personal struggles are overshadowed by his god level strength in popular media.
@@MrRoMaGi Ah, yes. "Oh, woe is me. I truly am the most tragic hero. If I'm not careful, I could win every fight by blowing air through my lips too hard and creating a hurricane. How can I be expected to win fights without struggling, if I have to keep myself from even staring too hard or disintegrate my opponent completely?"
@@urmom8152 He does that when a criminal kills a nearby civilian or does something extreme to someone, or when he's interrogating them. He puts them in hospitals usually, and literally pays to give them good treatment so they can learn. The main ones never seem to get it.
@@pattycake520You'll get bored in Superman because your taste of plot is centered on the means of melee victory. Superman's story is an example of having so much conflict despite seemingly having a power that ensures certain victory against adversaries. Marvel less interesting, less substance. less theme, figurative writing, philosophy, moral lesson, compelling plot. Also full of unnecessary jokes and villains that makes no sense. In DC, the incorruptible greatest detective is against an unpredictable psychopath scheming clown, next is a wealthy power hungry bald guy envies an alien man flying in metropolis because he can never acquire a power greater than what the alien posses. Only thing Marvel has is a goblin in a glider, a lizard, a red skull and octopus arms (which all are cliche failed experiments/ambitious scientists) Thanos snapped 3-4 billion people for balance of resources, it'll only take 40-50 years to repopulate the world back to 7-8 billion. What then is the purpose of the snap? nonsense villain goal.
Superman can take down Doomsday and Darkseid but is pushed to his limits by Lex Luthor. Iron Man can fight toe to toe with Thanos but geeks like Whiplash have given him trouble. Also, with Joker it isn't about physically beating him, it's more of a mental one.
I like how they assume that the billionaire playboy with a suit running on electrical power, who also makes weapons like EMPs on the daily, wouldn’t make that suit EMP proof
This guy seems to really like batman. When talking about Iron man he first mentions Iron Man's tech and gadgets being better than batman's, then also mentions batman's gadgets as a strong point, like you just said iron man had better tech why are you even mentioning it.
@@mrmallard4600 So could Tony, essentially. The difference is that Batman is designed to win. His character is the archetype of the ACTUAL good of all mankind, so he is written as an ordinary man who has trained himself to overcome the greatest of adversities. If Batman lost to Tony stark, then a hero who sacrifices himself for the innocent and downtrodden would lose to an abusive drunk. It doesn't matter what Batman's skills are... what matters is the archetype of his character. A story about Batman losing to Tony Stark would essentially be a story about YOU (because Batman is written to be the everyman, the ideal that a normal human could hope to achieve, a standin for the reader the likes of which an invincible god like Superman could never be) getting beaten up by an annoying, mysoginistic jock. It doesn't matter if Tony COULD beat Bruce... what matters is the character archetype. Batman is not supposed to lose, because when Batman loses, you lose.
@@TheWizardsTales Lol, good breakdown. Batman does things that he has no business doing or surviving. He’s just a regular peak human but he’s supposed to possess all of this knowledge and have skills along with experience in all of these fighting styles. Cap actually has more experience than Batman but is written as the “against all odds” unrealistic character. Thor, Quicksilver, Wanda, and especially Hulk would kill Batman with no issues and Cap would handicap Bruce. A speedster moves at the speed of human realization. The eyes and brain wouldn’t pick up in time enough to react even if we anticipate.
@@jeremiah_12 but he is batman though...within a fraction of seconds flash makes thousad ways to defeat batman ..but the normal human batman came already prepared with 100thousands of ways for which he even trained for months....
@@iam00playa18 yes... The PTSD of Murder, The madness of Arkham, The prophecy of Robins, The death of Thomas Wayne, The potential for Heroism and The sponsorship deal of an Asylum. These are what blessed a young Bruce Wayne with the powers of Martha!
I remember hearing once of a crossover between DC and Marvel that actually put certain characters against each other, including Batman and Captain America. Unlike the other match ups, however, that fight ended in a draw because neither one of them truly wanted to fight each other.
the problem with that series was half the books were written by DC half were written by Marvel. thus you have writers who make their guy come out on top. I also think that they had fan votes for who would win this particular fight etc. In the situation you mentioned. Bats says that it's conceivable that Cap could eventually beat him. but they never get that far and as you said their fight ended in a draw, Dunno if it was that the writer didn't want to tarnish the reputations of either character or not.
in that case it is not a draw its clear that batman wins the fight because captain america has super soldier serum but batman is all human with training and intellect yet it was a draw then who win in your opinion
@@Dwergarphalanx let’s be realistic, idk how much you in particular know about both Marvel and Dc comics, but in reality Cap would lose Mid diff. I’m sure both brands didn’t want to make the their character seem bad. Cap’s ability to ADAPT absolutely will Not be enough to beat somebody with 127+ skills MASTERED . His raw strength and “I can do this all day” will power are his biggest advantages. Batman took punches from Deathstroke, Bane, Wonderwoman, Weakened Superman, Etc. So Cap’s strength isn’t a problem. Just look at the feats. Absolutely non-bias , Batman beats ALOT (almost every street tier) of people. I think he would high Diff Spidey but that’s a different talk for a different day
@@Wooch1x You want realistic in a comic book universe??? That won't happen. As an example, as i understand it it takes years to master a Martial art. I read some where that they listed 3 forms, and if you used these as a baseline to figure out the average years it would take to master M.A.'s then multiply that by all 127, he'd have to be over 600 years old. But again this is a comic book universe so we can ignore the facts on how long it would take to master a martial art, let alone 127 of them. Unless he has an Eidetic Memory, then that would be impossible. Also the crossover comic was written by a guy who works(dunno if he did at the time) for both Marvel and DC. He has an understanding of the two characters and i would surmise that both companies would have had to ok the way the characters were written before they went to print. I honestly couldn't care less if he could be beaten by Cap or not, but the particular comic that was brought up, it was stated in it that, and i requote it, "Bats says that it's conceivable that Cap could eventually beat him." and as i stated above, we never get to that stage.
@@Dwergarphalanx I wasn’t LITERALLY saying be realistic, I meant it in a way of seeing put the bias and love for the characters aside. Batman would win alot easier then people think
I actually thought they would put some thought into this. How wrong. Hulk - Tranquilizer in drink. Keep him sleeping. Put him somewhere and just keep him asleep. Over and over. Black Widow - Hand to hand, it's close but he wins. Full on with everything it's a long fight. Could go either way honestly. Batman edge because of his ability to learn about his opponent. Hawkeye - Good argument. Ant-Man - Depends on how much he knows. With no prep in a death match - Ant-Man Pym wins. With prep and knowledge of Pym Bat Tech specifically designed to stop Pym would give Batman the win. Lang. Ant-Man would lose once Batman figured out what was happening. He just would. A la If Falcon could see him and Iron Man could remove him from his suit, Bats could figure out how to neutralize him. Probably with pepper spray or something similar. Sorry. More in the next comment.
In Man of Steel #3, Batman had almost no knowledge of Superman and had only read about him. Having to go to Metropolis, he prepped a suit that was designed to detect super-dense material. This was to keep Superman from touching him, once he made the Man of Steel aware that a bomb would go off somewhere in the city if he did. If he could design that early in his career, he could design something to detect tiny living tissue - Ant-Man or the Wasp. It could set off an electrical charge if they enter his space, rendering them unconscious. Or dead. I don't know Wasp's tolerance to electricity but the targeted laser would do the trick. See next. Quicksilver could get a lot done if he just showed up and did the deed. But he would probably talk a lot and show off a bit. So a mild laser array in Bats' suit triggered by anything going faster than 250 mph could potentially give Pietro a reason to get to a hospital or totally ruin his day. Targeting systems' speed are rather incredible these days. I almost forgot. For Falcon, he would try to engage him in a ground fight by finding his radio frequency and talking him down. Then, he would ninja surprise him and take him out.
Vision? Outsmarting him would definitely be the way to go. Perhaps a logic bomb or simply presenting him with a choice that he knows Vision, acting human, will follow to get him to go elsewhere. I don't know that an emp would work on him. Lastly, the Scarlet Witch. Here, as seen in WandaVision, the strategy Batman used with Ace wouldn't work. Ace really just wants to be treated well and left alone. Wanda has had massive trauma in the comics and the film and tv shows. Batman would have a conversation with her. But it would be a different one than he would have with Ace. Think Superman's conversation with Dr. Manhattan but appealing to her own self-awareness as a human being so that she makes the decision to stop whatever she is doing to mess things up. So, different from the conversation with Ace but ultimately not so different. With Zatanna and possibly Constantine as backups. There you have it. My version of what Batman could do to take out the Avengers.
A lot of the batman scenarios really do rely heavily on “with prep and money, anything is possible” Course the same applies in reverse. Any of the avengers I’m aware of could quite easily beat iron man with some prep. Or none, given you’d basically just have to tell quicksilver or thor Bruce is at a party and to smack him really hard.
@@fritz_of_blitz9403 Not really. He isn’t inherently more vulnerable to sliding around then anyone else, additionally he could go on all fours yet maintain high speeds much easier. He could just go as slow as anyone else on the lower body. That also didn’t negate any of my post in the first place.
Or he just straight up loses to Hulk right out the gate. The whole "kill him while he's Banner" just wouldn't work because we're talking about a vs battle, not a comic where the writer has freedom to write bs wank. Banner can survive lethal damage and transform withing an instant. Hulk would just punch him once and it's GG.
What's the chances of them knowing his mother's name. It just so happened that Superman's and Batman's mother's were named the same and that's very rare.
What's he going to do to banner? He spends all the time saying how he'd get to Bruce but what's he going to do then? Shoot him? The other guy will spit it out and crush him......pym, hawkeye, Nat are his only wins.
Something to note about Iron Man is that he can remote control a suit. So if Batman got the drop on him, what would stop Tony from just flying away to a safe location and send a suit? And if Batman somehow beats it....Tony could send another? And if Batman somehow was able to reach Tony in that location, Tony could just fly away with another suit. Tony has just too many advantages even if he's caught off guard.
@@chongwillson972 at that point it would be a battle of wit, and given how he's used wit to beat the likes of gods, i'd say the odds are in batmans favour there
@@JohnCastleSmokeless No lol, Starks fighting skills is still nowhere compared to batman, Batman knows every martial art in the world and he is peak human, In terms of strength batman and Captain America is considered equal
lol I mean, there has to be a storyline right? I do prefer that Batman better than the one who throws hands against Superman and Darkside. Sometimes writers get to high.
@@timothycrosby4251 RIGHT?! And its not like Cap has not studied... the syrum supposedly enhanced his cognative abilities, so his reflexes and understanding and planning would all come to play as well.
The bullet was designed to vibrate at the exact frequency Flash uses to phase through things so... it would probably just going to be as lethal as a normal bullet to non vibrating foes
@@mjkoolaid1511 he could if he wants to. In batman who laughs he has defeated the entire justice league all by himself and if we compare both sides, JL is stronger with metahumans and aliens on their side.
"He can attack Banner"... Except that Hulk has protected Banner from explosions. "He could concoct a plan so that Thor become unworthy to wield Mjolnir and..." hopefully all this happens before Thor sends the unstoppable hammer through his skull. "Once Batman gets in close, it's over for Rogers" Are you stupid? Cap has super strength, agility, speed AND intelligence. Not to mention he's trained in a ton of fighting styles (including with Widow, Hawkeye, Daredevil, and Panther). Bats using an EMP device to take Iron Man out? Are you serious? You don't think that's the first failsafe Tony thought about? Jfc. Wanda can lock him in a pocket reality where mom and dad didn't die or just erase him. He only really has a chance against Widow and Barton. And they're both basically mixes of Deadshot and Deathstroke.
bro he can beat a lot of them like the other dude said hulk and Scarlet witch are his biggest threats i mean if he plans it he can definitely do it i mean when your feared by a god then that’s saying something and plus the dude made some fare points so yeah it’s definitely possible for batman to win and i’m not saying i’m a fan but i’m saying ik the character very well and i love marvel but as much as ik all the characters it just makes since to me i can definitely see him winning against them or at least give them one hell of a fight before one of them get lucky and yeah thor could do this and yea iron man could have this back up or some shot but your basically saying the same thing the other guys saying but in reverse it’s possible but u can’t Account for it u domt know it’s who ever gets the upper hand first and if batman plans it right like he usually does he can win
Truthfully his biggest threat in the main avengers team would be Thor. After that it would be Stark. People think he's useless without his suit but it's not true. Cap is good but bats has fought superhumans of that caliber many times. But Hulk by far would be alot less of an issue then most people think. Its a psychological issue at heart and bats knows all about those. To tell you the truth I think he's got everybody but Thor and iron man.
@JezzyBeast naw dude and you can tell by my username I'm a fan of Batman. But when it comes to prep time that assumes they know and everyone is preparing. And they got stark. Dude CREATED an element. Bats is smart but he's not exactly a military grade weapons developer. And then on top of that I cant even name a weakness of Thor, except maybe snakes, particularly giant ones.
@JezzyBeast yeah tru they are tuff but what the other dude said i mean tru thor and iron would put up a solid fight and yeah i can agree with some stuff your saying but hulk and Scarlet witch are super powerful but i respect your opinion and iron man i mean he is something with out the suit but not all that batman is without his so i mean i love iron man but i could consider him that big of a threat but he would be the one to make a come back pretty hard considering batman don’t kill iron man would make a come back eventually thor he’s strong but if he just uses what he used on wonder woman i mean bats would be fine and prep time yeah usually thing that said but with all do respect isn’t that why batman is the tactician to the jla because he can plan and prep extremely well including knowing his team‘s weaknesses and strengths
@The Real Joker i get what your saying but batman has studied alien Technology from almost everywhere and a lot of that is stronger technology then what iron man has so in comic in continuity it has stated that Batman has studied taken apart rebuilt alien technology from everywhere even war worlds such as apocalypse which is literally a war world and they have a world that is actually called war world with tech from there so I have no doubt in my mind that Batman would be able to do something against Tony Stark I mean Tony Starks a genius but if bats is prepared he’ll be fine but Batman don’t kill so Tony Stark will come back and end up winning the next fight because he will be prepared but if no one knows he’s coming they’re done
I got two scenarios in. Couldn't go any further. "If we build the scenario that ignores all of the opponent's strengths and highlights their weaknesses while doing the opposite for Batman, he totally wins."
Exactly! That’s Batman’s superpower….the way that he’s written. Everyone else is dumb in his presence. Folks forget how to strategize and plan for Batman while he alone can adjust and counter opponents.
How? Using his PIS. Plot induced stupidity. He basically has plot armour whenever he goes against anything out of Gotham city. I love him going up against his villains but can't stand when he teams up the justice league and holds his own. The "prep time" excuse is boring.
If I tell you the secret to defeat Hulk, do you promise not to use it for evil? Okay, hear me out: Vaporwave music. Try to stay angry against the most chill music style in the universe. I dare you.
The issue with the Hulk fight is the only way Batman could win is by sedating him and keeping him sedated, as the Hulk has shown to be able to respond to threats that Banner couldn't, even unconscious.
@@bear-er5jz I may be wrong but I believe Hulks healing does not work on Banner. However, if something life threatening happens to Bruce, Hulk emerges and regenerates. So not really but kind of. 😂
Batman has could employ Jokor's laughing toxin if it's a part of his regular kit, and if it isn't he'd need to know prior. But then if he know's prior then we have the famous "Batman planning time" in which case he'll definitely win.
Some flaws in this: Antman & Wasp can both go subatomic in the films and pass though anything while doing so. Thor wouldn't be affected by radion. He's not a New God, therefore he doesn't have that vulnerability. Not a flaw, but, at least according to Death Battle, Bats can indeed defeat Cap.
Well for Ant Man- he can use nanites, that can manipulate at a subatomic level, and fear toxins to force him to develop a combination of Megalophobia, the intense fear of large objects, and Vestiophobia, irrational fear of clothing, which will ensure that he won't shrink and forces him to take his suit off. As for Thor- Well pretty much he has no traditional weakness, but he is susceptible towards magic, like the time where he was instantly killed by a magic arrow shot to the chest before Odin revived him. Batman has a magical artifact installed in the Justice Buster which is called The Bind Of Veils, a relic created by the god Hephaestus, which binds the target in a illusion, leaving them frozen in place (kinda like genjutsus from Naruto), then there's the tooth of Jormungandr, which is capable of injuring or outright kill him, one can be found in a museum, in which it was stolen and given to Rhino, replacing his horn, and managed to take down Thor. Batman found the Bind of Veils from the black market, surely he can find a tooth of Jormungandr just as easily, and with those two combination I'm sure it will be effective of taking Thor down.
Yeah this guy seems to really like batman. When talking about Iron man he first mentions Iron Man's tech and gadgets being better than batmans, then also mentions batman's gadgets as a strong point, like you just said iron man had better tech why are you even mentioning it.
Iron Man wouldn’t be taken out with an emp because his suit isn’t powered by electricity but by the electromagnetic battery in his chest. The emp blast would only turn into energy for the suit to recharge.
@@anthonymarcus3259 Batman can tank hits from Wonder woman and Superman, dodge Darkseid omega beams, smart enough to beat Rai's Al Ghul in chess, and skilled enough to beat the likes of Deathstroke and Lady shiva. With all of that and some prep time for both Batman can pull of a victory.
@@jeremiahcrain7023 Batman beating Deathstroke and lady Shiva in hand-to-hand combat is PIS. Even in his bat-suit he would lose more times than win against Slade. Slade beats him in pretty much every single aspect of the game.
I love Batman but he would stand very little chance in a straight up fight with Cpt America. Cap knows about as many fighting styles as Batman and even if we said they are on the same strength level, Cap's endurance and Stamina are on a completely different level.
If it was a straight up fist fight maybe, but that's not always how Batman operates. Cap is very smart, and a great tactician, but not enough to take down the Bat. They aren't equals, but Batman has taken down other characters significantly stronger than him such as Bane. I think in a straight up fight, Cap would win most of the time, but there would be a good few times Batman would win, thanks to his sheer intellect. This is in the pure combat department. Batman is a master of stealth, being able to sneak up on people with far better senses than Cap, such as Superman. Cap has very good senses, but he's not omniscient to his surroundings, and I am certain Batman could own Cap if he used his stealth tactics, something he could absolutely do. In a straight up fights, no stealth it anything, I think it's very possible Batman could win. He mastered an insane number of fighting styles, like Cap, and has intelligence far behind Cap, although Steve isn't dumb, he is actually very smart, but I just don't think he's near the Bat in the intelligence department. Still, Cap could very well beat Batman, they are actually surprisingly even in my mind. If could go either way a lot of the time. In a straight fight, Cap could definitely win, but throw in stealth, and gadgets, and Batman dominates. This is just my analysis though. I could be wrong. I'm just making my best guess. I'm interested in people giving me counter arguments, as long as it's not mean.
@@michaelgillespie9112 Thank you. Plus Steve doesn't know nearly enough martial arts as batman. 127 martial arts and 56 types of escape techniques (don't know the proper term). Tactically superior. Strategically superior. He would figure out very early that steve can't be overpowered by him. He will implore a more strategic fight. Captain America will be hit and taken down from every angle... not even to mention the fact that he knows every single pressure point on the human body. Sure Steve's physique is durable but with the way batman can punch it's just impossible for Steve to just walk it off. So if they fought to the death, the bat wins. If they fought to apprehend the other. The possibility of Steve winning is a lot more possible.
C'mmom Batman wont engage Steve in a hand to hand combat! Captain is stronger, faster, more durable, and can react faster as well! Bruce is almost Peak human and captain IS Peak human
Deathstroke is all the things Captain America is and Batman has beaten him. Also not likely Captain America can outsmart Batman, Batman is also a more skilled fighter so Captain would have a hard time landing a hit on Batman.
All these battle plans presuppose that The Avengers are kind enough to provide Bats with a comprehensive spreadsheet of all their strengths/weakenesses prior to attack.
Yeah. Batman has the edge on a lot of justice leaguers because he's known them for years and they've trusted him enough to open up about stuff. He's taken time to prepare for them should they go rogue. This list also assumes that he'd get to take them out one at a time in a vacuum where none of the Avengers are alerted that someone is apparently hunting them down.
Batman isn't afraid to be a stalker. He'd find out about them whether they'd want him to or not. Batman figured out the OG JL's secret identities before they were even aware that he knew.
No batman figured out Martian man hunters weakness within minutes he can find out their weakness and shield is easily infiltrated and he’s skilled enough to pass as someone that’s supposed to be there
Finding out the Avenger's true identities isn't the hard part. Most are a matter of public record in universe. As for Batman's ability to "stalk". Batman couldn't even figure out that there were three different guys calling themselves The Joker, and most of the Avengers identities are a matter of public record. He somehow didn't know he had a kid for years. A teenager figured out his secret identity. You think Batman is gonna be able to counter Tony's stuff? Tony has tech that can rewrite his cellular structure. Pym can shrink and outgrow the universe itself and his A.I. has a habit of becoming more powerful and advanced than even him. People have tried kill Bruce Banner to avoid the hulk. It did not go well for them. Batman got his own satellite AI hijacked by Maxwell Lord and his back broken by a guy on super steroids. Batman is a great character and one of my favorites. But he wins because his name is on the book, just like every other comic character, and in a thought experiment, "because he's Batman" isn't gonna hold up to scrutiny.
Yes they do but its probably how it would turn out I mean we all know DC Batman always to have win even surviving a full power punch of darkseid who even hurts Superman and Supergirl
As I recall, when Batman and Cap met, they spent about five minutes feinting and feeling each other out, at which point Batman said, "Okay, you could beat me, but it would take hours. Now that we've settled that, shall we figure out what's going on here?"
@@metamorphosisclagaborphisi3926, true, but I thought it was a great depiction of how they might interact. Everyone else was busy trying to prove who the top dog was, and Cap and Batman simply established that it would be a tough fight and then worked together.
Agree to disagree. Cap is a phenomenal fighter and can more than hold his own. Even against fighters with overall fighting knowledge. His strength, speed, agility, strategies and Inhuman stamina are incredible.
I'm not so sure Bat's could take Cap' in physical confrontation Cap: I can do this all day. Would wear Bruce down even with all the insane fighting skills at his disposal. Cap' is trained in forge of combat all the techniques are not gonna matter if you opponent can outlast you in a fight. It would definitely be battle of the tech with Iron Man, but you mentioned EMP I'm sure Tony has EM hardened his armor for this reason.
I hate the “Batman always wins” mantra. Batman is #1, my favorite hero of all time, and it’s because he loses. Loses to bane, Ra’s al Ghul, the joker. His stories are inherently the most compelling of any comic book because he doesn’t have superpowers and he does, in fact, lose a bunch. To quote the great Thomas Wayne “why do we get knocked down? So we can learn to pick ourselves back up” that’s Batman.
@@internetbuff2086 if batman have enough time and knowing that goku can transform because of the cells( comfirmed from Akira toriyama that these cells make them transform when they all go into the back) in the back and find a way to destroy these cells then goku will lose his way of transforming wich means he will be weak probably goku base form is enough to kil goku unless in that base form batman use a op virus wich kil in his base like in cell saga
It's how would he not what would happen. Nobody wants to hear Batman would lose to Thor, Hulk, Scarlet witch, et cetera. we already know that would happen. These are just theoretical scenarios in which Batman could take advantage of the avengers.
@@proffesornugget1613 batman with prep time is a joke. He's not even a real hero. His city is shit. His family crooks. Frank castle does a better vigilante job. Trash ain't gonna take itself out.
@@luistorres6956 nevermind the fact that he's taken down Superman on multiple occasions, and has killed Darkseid. If Batman is given ample prep time, he's able to find even the tiniest weakness in any opponent and use them to his advantage.
There was a Hulk versus Batman crossover in 1981 written by Len Wein and wonderfully drawn by Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez. If you can find it, really worth checking it out.
Yeah I remember this one. It had great art. It was a strange matchup for sure. It was kind of ridiculous that he could knockout the Hulk with gas from his utility belt. I remember when Doc Sampson was fighting the Hulk and ordered the army to fire the gas rounds at them. Both feel unconscious and one of the soldiers stated that Sampson knew that any gas strong enough to knockout the Hulk would be strong enough to kill him but still gave the order. The gas was able to seep into the pores so the Hulk couldn't avoid it. Normal gas wouldn't cut it. If it could knockout the Hulk, and possibly kill Sampson, then it would easily kill Batman.
@@jakemonster001 yep, through great plot armor, Batman won. How you can gas Hulk makes little sense because Hulk has a plethora of ways to overcome some gas.
@@tano3166 Have you not read the Dark Multiverse. Inside the comics, it literally describes The Batman Who Laughs as Batman's rule of he always wins with The Joker's brutality
Cap and Bats actually had a fight in a cross over comic. Well... it was more of a sparring match. Batman admitted Cap would beat him, but said it would not be easy
Same crossover where they made batman beat the hulk from knockout gas. So much inconsistencies for the plot. I've learned it's just best to enjoy all the characters for what they are and to stop comparing them
Knockout gas is the only real way to beat the Hulk. Any physical attack just makes him angrier and more powerful (although I suppose Superman could just keep punching him until he explodes). Also, "canon" is established and accepted history and philosophy; a "cannon" is a large bore ordnance.
Fun fact, Shiva also mastered a few lost or forgotten, or however you want to word that one, that Batman doesn’t. She’s probably the best hand to hand combatant in the DC universe. Now a fight with her and Shang-Chi would be something else.
@@kjpierson1152 I'm just trying to show schemers how... _pathetic_ their attempts at controlling reality are. See, nobody panics when things go according to the plan - even if the plan itself is HORRIFYING - because it's all *part of the plan.*
Jewel you know Batman well. For the Scarlet Witch. I agree he will treat her Ace. Also did anyone cried when Ace died? That episode really was emotional, and unfair for little Ace not having a childhood. One episode that really made me sad and angry at the same time.
Ah yes, EMP gun against Iron Man. Genius idea, except for the fact, that from mark 3 and on, his armors can absorb electricity based attacks to charge his own systems rather than actually take damage. As seen in the first avengers moovie when he fights Thor.
@@Blox117 EMP stands for electro-magnetic pulse. Now grab a book on physics, and check what those do to circuitry in any machine hit by it. Magnetic force can generate an electric charge, and electricity following a certain path can create magnetic force. The 2 are, and always were correlated. Now tell me, how does an EMP not damage most machinery by overloading it's capacitors, and effectively frying the system with an electric overload?
@@heinrichvonschnitzel8600 it wouldn't fry nuclear powered devices. Nuclear energy is organic whereas a conventional battery is synthetic. Also, nuclear energy is generally what causes an emp, it's not usually effected by it.
😂 y'all need to get off Batmans rod he can't even keep Joker in check let alone take out all of the Avengers 😂 not even talking about Hulk or Thor but Wanda Maximoff would change reality for Batman and probably turn him into a pickled herring 😆
In this case ironman is the genius with a plan and Bruce is the idiot also with a plan, not saying Bruce is dumb his iq level is 192 which is Einstein level and the average persons is around 100 but Tony's is 270 nearly 100 above Bruce which makes batman look like he has an average mind
Thor may be the toughest one on here especially considering how long he has lived, he may have learned more fighting styles than even Batman, perhaps some that are unknown to humans as well. Paired with tirelessness, strength, etc. Batman faces a tough hand to hand fight. Thors abilities make it even tougher.
@@f521_editzz6 Name at least one major weakness of asgardians that can be properly utilized. Also Thor not only use raw power, he is a really skilled warrior and one of the most versatile members of Avengers remembering how many op abilities Mjolnir have.
@@f521_editzz6 Raw power is better than skill in a lot of situations. Ninja moves vs a country destroying strike. Batman can use martial arts but that won’t save you against a nuclear missile.
I already seen someone say something that caught my attention in the video. Your saying ant man (the dude that can go so small he goes into Quantum realm) can’t go into Batman’s suit?? Nope not buying it. All he has to do is get in the suit and go big. Quick death for Batman. And Antman isn’t even close to being the most deadly on this list. I love Batman like the rest but y’all give him way too much credit. Go ahead and take Thor and Cap off his wins too.
@@Orb745 except so far as i know any time that's happened they've either had a physical weakness he could use like in superman or darkseid's case, or it's someone he's known for a long time, or both. Neither of those apply to thor, and he's a lot less likely to hold back against batman than someone like superman or wonder woman, both of whom could kill him with a single hit if they wanted
@@colmdeeny3042 yeah that's true but read the video title and then think about the concept of the video. It's about the T&C to how BATMAN WOULD WIN. The reason the video exists its because of how batman is written E.g. 'With enough prep time he can beat anyone.' We all know batman would get smacked realistic by most ppl thas a given. But the situations in this video have to be in batman's for for him to win that's LITERALLY the point of the video.
@@colmdeeny3042 and I'm not saying that batman is given wins like he's the most hardworking character in my opinion out JL and probably the avengers but when you put ppl like batman against superman and thor the favours have to be one a side E.g. batman owning kryptonite and using it against superman (not all the time tho)
@@Orb745 yeah I get the point of the video, all I'm saying is that it's gotten to a point where many people seem to think batman beats literally anyone given prep even though that really only works when he knows the people well, whether they're superheroes he's fought with or villains he's fought against, and while I do like batman, this is the one thing about him I don't like
Realstically, Batman would most likely lose his first encounter vs most of the Avengers members only then he can defeat them by analizing their weaknesses, if he survives of course
Batman is so effective against the Justice League and his Rogue's gallery because he's around them so much. He's not just gonna have access to the weaknesses, identities, and all this other stuff he has when betraying his friends trust and making contingency plans to harm and kill them. In a straight up fight, Bruce gets smooshed by like 90% of the Avengers.
@@DbladeMedic Thinking up new tactics doesn't mean that mid-battle he has access to the means to carry them out. And again, in this scenario he's never fought these people with fantastical abilities before. He's not gonna come up with a way to negate them or get around them on the fly. He wouldn't figure out Superman is weak to Kryptonite if he just showed up one day and they threw hands would he? No. Batman's great but people need to realize he's fallible and not capable of just beating whoever he wants, whenever he wants. If he could do that his name would be "Perfect Man" or "I Never Lose Guy".
I've seen a crossover where Bruce Wayne believed Steve Rogers would eventually beat him through pure endurance, so I believe a simple brawl isn't the answer. However, Batman's tech could supply several answers against Cap.
In that same issue, they fought for 2 days and Batman got a lucky punch in and knocked him out. Of course, the outcome was picked by the fans. 90s issue of the Amalgram Universe. It wasn't really that good.
@@hoobadoobamaster8551 I'm actually referring to a WWII fight between the two. Bruce stopped the fight by calling Steve "Captain" as Bruce knew that it couldn't be anyone else.
One of the top badass moments from the DCAU:
Batman: “THE JUSTICE LEAGUE IS UNDER ATTACK!!!!”
Alfred: “By who?!”
Batman: “BY ME!”
One of the badass in here to is
The plans to neutralise or weaken the justice League became lethal or can kill
And also,
Then you're damn fools🤣
Chills every time
Batman has always had the majority of the best lines
Yes!! I actually wish they had tried to use something against Batman and Batman is like, "The only person who could have possibly known this is.. Me"
I can only imagine Batman vs Ironman being something like this: **You outsmarted me but I outsmarted your outsmarting** for the whole fight
Batarang? Nothing for the iron suit.
Nope, Electric batarang.
Hah lmao, that just charges me.
Well the batarang can explode though.
*Boom* this suit of armour has survived much worse.
But, the explosion is also an EMP
It doesn't need-
It would be the heist episode of Rick and mortey
@@kkTeaz it has emp proof armor
but now i can hide in the darkness of the out of power city
i have night vision
my cape and conceal me anywhere
infrared too
my cape can block that too
jarvis can always detect a target, even if they're invisible
but i'm gone
well, i can follow you
i have multiple hideouts across the world
and i have the internet at my disposal, i can track you down
not if i track you down first
i live in a giant tower with my name on it, you think i'm not gonna have defenses?
i can disable them
emp proof too
who says i'm using an emp
i can remotely control them and even fix them within seconds
well, your tower's bought by me
i can buy it back
you can't outbid me forever
i make millions of dollars each day
so do i...
Unstoppable force meets immovable object
Batman vs Ironman
Two armored genius billionaire orphans who have an ego the size of Mount Everest
Doctor Doom vs Lex Luthor
Two genius villains who seek world domination and unlimited knowledge
My guess is he'd defeat Iron Man by buying his company
Hahahaha
Gud joke...not funny 😑
Hostile take over stark industries a wholey owned subsidery of wayne industries
How would batman take out black widow? Batman wouldnt, Bruce Wayne would , probably someplace with 8 or 9 micheline stars and a wine list that starts at 4 figures.
Which would be hard to do when Iron-Man is richer
@@AscendedXSaiyan exactly
Gotta love how highly people view Batman’s abilities and strategic prowess.
I mean, DC has done their damndest in recent years to make Batman the most powerful hero on their roster. Not saying that's neccessarily a good thing, but it certainly is a thing.
he was called one of the smartest and most strategic minds in the universe by a guy literally makes and destroys universes so yeah. the movie version of batman you're accustom to is not an accurate portrayal in the least. with planning and strategy, batman has beaten gods and multiverse level characters.
Because he’s the best
@@heroicsquirrel3195 Because he has superpowers and gods are written to be idiots so he can attack
@@friedfrog5447 what?
Bruce: “I put a bullet in my mouth and the other guy spit it out”
Batman: “But I’m Batman”
Haha I said the same thing
Fr that’s what I was thinking
Yeah I thought hulk basically can't die
Good that Batman doesn´t use bullets...
Pretty sure he would only go to take Hulk out of the picture by immobilizing him. Freezing or some kind of hard but flexible polymer.
@Owen Jennings What makes you say that? Because from everything I've scene, comic Hulk is infinitely more overpowered. Which seems to rain true for most of the comic versions of characters.
If Batman can defeat Batman, he can defeat anyone.
I don't think that's how it works but ok
Ahbyes
Ah yes
Yesn't
@@himokotoga6649 or fight to a draw in a fight while both the characters have prep time
When you live long enough to become the ultimate Villain in a different universe.
Every multiverse
What about the MCU's supervillains???!!!!
Plz make a video about this topic 😃😃😃🥺🥺
You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain
You either die a hero or live long enough to take out the Avengers, LOL
🤣🤣🤣 facts
I feel like Spider-Man would be a really tough fight for Batman. His weaknesses aren’t that obvious when fighting him. He doesn’t need to swing or stick to walls to be a tough fight because in combat, he can definitely handle himself with some of the strongest in Marvel and DC. And his Spider-Sense could save him from anything he can’t handle.
batman has beaten far more powerful characters than spidey
@@HereJune spider man too
Batman's superpower is his plot armour
@@pablopumarestaminiau7512 it's every super hero's plot armor. Advantage negated.
@@HereJune through mostly plot armor.
"Batman's impenetrable suit" show a pic with a huge hole in the mask
Fr
@This Is What Awesome Looks Like most Shonen characters do.
Batman beyond armor
@This Is What Awesome Looks Like your average Batman? Most likely. Batman on his higher end Suits? Not too sure about that.
That’s a plot plot hole haha get it?
*File retrieved from Batcave vault*
Avengers Contingency
**Captain America:**
Develop viral anti-serum. Blood Sample on file.
**Hulk:**
Create Fear Toxin derivative to cause phobia against rage.
**Thor:**
Post-hypnotic suggestion that he is unworthy of his birthright
**Hawkeye:**
Blindness and motor neuron disease.
**Black Widow:**
Examine Red Room Protocol for Killswitch Command. Protocol files in database X35.
Override and / or Compliance Commands allow use as diversion for additional targets.
**Ant-Man / Wasp:**
Compromise suit shrinking apparatus to shrink suit only.
**Black Panther:**
Match sonic resonance of vibranium in suit. Vibranium sample in Vault V323.
Utilize rotating harmonic fields to disrupt suit at molecular level.
Include harmonic algorithms for human flesh in field program.
**Winter Soldier:**
Utilize and adapt Black Widow Contigency.
**Captain Marvel:**
Utilize Tetch neural tech to co-opt visual cortex and cause any creature viewed to become a hated enemy.
**Iron Man:**
Drinking Contest
*Scarlet Witch*
Arcane resonator: a device that release an electromagnetic vibration attuned to the frequency of energies emanating from outer planes. Attune the resonator to Chaos Magic frequencies, disabling Wanda's source of power.
The only thing is that black panther and Tony gonna have prep as well. Tony gonna make some random shit so that he can keep drinking longer lol.
level of Black Panther's intelligence is more (or even), than Batman's. So call it even.
And yet, rage can source from fear. Would that fear toxin even work?
Hmm.... At the least, it would definitely distract him, and make the Hulk unstable.
@@khajiitimanus7432
The madder he gets, the more scared he gets?
Every one of these came down to "he just wins."
@@chris26479 It would made more sense if he had a armor like Hell Bat as a fan of both it was lazy written comic.
Well he does innit
More of these needed parallel ecamples to similar threats in DC otherwise they are just statements that Batman wins. Usually Banner turns into the Hulk when harmed. The best bet would be to launch Hulk in space. Batman would be a dangerous villain but I'm not sure he'd beat everyone. Black Widow was given pretty good odds to survive an attack regroup then work against Bats. The best he has in these scenarios is surprise. Batman is my favorite hero but saying he can beat everyone isn't necessary. Also Batman loses to villains all the time so it's a good chance he'd lose to at least one avenger. My money is on Black Widow for skill, Hawkeye for being underestimated or Hulk because he attacks Banner.
Batman has plot armor. He does just win because that's how thick his defense is.
I did like his idea about manipulating Thor into making himself unworthy. That one has some legs to it, too bad Jules just made it a throwaway comment and spent all his time on “hEy It WoRkEd On DaRkSeId!!!”
This is why I love Marvels characters so much. They don’t have traditional cliche weaknesses. They have vulnerabilities, which makes them interesting to read
I mean, Superman has very much vulnerabilities holding himself to a proper standard when he's essensially a god among humans raised by a loving family. It doesn't come up often in the world level stories, but in the more down to earth human stories of Superman, he's very empathetic. He can hear so much pain and anguish across the world and he simply has to live with it. Superman Vs The Elite, based on the comic "What's so fun about Truth, Justice and the American Way" (have not read it) shows how Superman need to self police himself to be the best he can be.
I love the characters of both Marvel and DC for being filled with interesting characters with vulnerabilities. It's kinda sad how Superman's more personal struggles are overshadowed by his god level strength in popular media.
@@MrRoMaGi Ah, yes. "Oh, woe is me. I truly am the most tragic hero. If I'm not careful, I could win every fight by blowing air through my lips too hard and creating a hurricane. How can I be expected to win fights without struggling, if I have to keep myself from even staring too hard or disintegrate my opponent completely?"
Plus Batman just severely maims his opponents or puts them in a kennel/asylum that does no good, which imo, is more cruel.
@@urmom8152 He does that when a criminal kills a nearby civilian or does something extreme to someone, or when he's interrogating them. He puts them in hospitals usually, and literally pays to give them good treatment so they can learn. The main ones never seem to get it.
@@pattycake520You'll get bored in Superman because your taste of plot is centered on the means of melee victory. Superman's story is an example of having so much conflict despite seemingly having a power that ensures certain victory against adversaries.
Marvel less interesting, less substance. less theme, figurative writing, philosophy, moral lesson, compelling plot. Also full of unnecessary jokes and villains that makes no sense.
In DC, the incorruptible greatest detective is against an unpredictable psychopath scheming clown, next is a wealthy power hungry bald guy envies an alien man flying in metropolis because he can never acquire a power greater than what the alien posses. Only thing Marvel has is a goblin in a glider, a lizard, a red skull and octopus arms (which all are cliche failed experiments/ambitious scientists)
Thanos snapped 3-4 billion people for balance of resources, it'll only take 40-50 years to repopulate the world back to 7-8 billion. What then is the purpose of the snap? nonsense villain goal.
“Batman’s suit is impenetrable”
*batman has his mouth literally open in nearly any costume he has*
Yeah but he doesn't leave his mouth hanging
@@copy4369 ant man can go through the skin cells
Not only that, but dude says that bat mans suit is impenatrable...yet later shows an image were the suit has holes and rips.
@@lucasjames9424 xD
Impenetrable? Lol naw. That shit is kevlar. It isn't stopping high calibur rounds or explosives.
"Batman would win"
Why?
"Because he's Batman
@@Master-nv3tp small advice: don't bother arguing with weebos. It's not worth you time
I was gonna say that
@This Is What Awesome Looks Like POV: Your a weeb who doesn't care about people's opinion but is sensitive about disagreeing with theirs
@This Is What Awesome Looks Like I mean, fans give them that much armour tho
people know marvel from movies i know batman from comics
I think Batman would use scarecrows fear toxin, like his plan for aqua-man
Now this is the ONLY reasonable attack I see working. It worked against Superman.
He would use Jokers laughing gas on Hulk. Can't be angry if you're laughing
@@joesifa5235 that would be scary and something to see😅
@@joesifa5235 he just has to make sure its his laughing gas and not the joker toxin, cuz then hes just got a newer greater problem
Yeah making Thor "thunderphobic" would be a great way to beat him
Batman : I am vengeance, I am night, I am BATMAN.
Bully Maguire : I am gonna put some dirt in your eyes.
😂 well anyone who’s a real fan knows bully breaks everyone..girls hearts & batman
@@mopnem Batman's plan against bully: eye protector worth two million. Still won't be able to beat bully because he put dirt in sandman's eyes😂😂
Lmao
*I'm gonna not "I am gonna"
Look at little bat Bruce Jr. Gonna cry?
Batman: takes down the whole Justice league and Avengers
Also Batman: struggles the to take a CLOWN
Bruh joker is like deadpool in dc comics
A clown? Joker is a genius. He even be smarter than Batman himself. He’s one of the few person in comic history who pushes Batman to his limits.
That Clown is an equal and opposite of Batman.
Batman is able to take down gods cuz he can predict them. Joker is unpredictable.
Superman can take down Doomsday and Darkseid but is pushed to his limits by Lex Luthor.
Iron Man can fight toe to toe with Thanos but geeks like Whiplash have given him trouble.
Also, with Joker it isn't about physically beating him, it's more of a mental one.
I like how they assume that the billionaire playboy with a suit running on electrical power, who also makes weapons like EMPs on the daily, wouldn’t make that suit EMP proof
Technically, the first 2 weren't. From mark 3 and onwards though...
If you wash the series he doesn't EMP proff it, idk why is just stupid
Some of his suits literally carry an emp generator and his suit is fine after using it
@@Wortigon2000 why would he use that
@@nicklopez8279 counter measures..?
He’d beat them with plot armor. That shit is indestructible
His secret superpower even he doesn't know about.
Tell that to dragon ball
Exactly
Oh it’s not like every bloody superhero in the world has “plot armour”, give us a break
As if then black widow can beat superman if she had plot armour
This guy seems to really like batman. When talking about Iron man he first mentions Iron Man's tech and gadgets being better than batman's, then also mentions batman's gadgets as a strong point, like you just said iron man had better tech why are you even mentioning it.
batman can still install a virus or just simply hack it and shut it down
@@mrmallard4600 So could Tony, essentially. The difference is that Batman is designed to win. His character is the archetype of the ACTUAL good of all mankind, so he is written as an ordinary man who has trained himself to overcome the greatest of adversities. If Batman lost to Tony stark, then a hero who sacrifices himself for the innocent and downtrodden would lose to an abusive drunk. It doesn't matter what Batman's skills are... what matters is the archetype of his character. A story about Batman losing to Tony Stark would essentially be a story about YOU (because Batman is written to be the everyman, the ideal that a normal human could hope to achieve, a standin for the reader the likes of which an invincible god like Superman could never be) getting beaten up by an annoying, mysoginistic jock.
It doesn't matter if Tony COULD beat Bruce... what matters is the character archetype. Batman is not supposed to lose, because when Batman loses, you lose.
@@TheWizardsTales Lol, good breakdown. Batman does things that he has no business doing or surviving. He’s just a regular peak human but he’s supposed to possess all of this knowledge and have skills along with experience in all of these fighting styles. Cap actually has more experience than Batman but is written as the “against all odds” unrealistic character. Thor, Quicksilver, Wanda, and especially Hulk would kill Batman with no issues and Cap would handicap Bruce. A speedster moves at the speed of human realization. The eyes and brain wouldn’t pick up in time enough to react even if we anticipate.
@@jeremiah_12 but he is batman though...within a fraction of seconds flash makes thousad ways to defeat batman ..but the normal human batman came already prepared with 100thousands of ways for which he even trained for months....
Well Batman could win as long as none of the Avenger's mothers are named Martha . "why did you say that name?!?!"
Oo... bad news then. There *is a Martha Stark
That's his word when he channels the powers of Shazam.
"Martha!!!"
@@iam00playa18 yes...
The PTSD of Murder, The madness of Arkham, The prophecy of Robins, The death of Thomas Wayne, The potential for Heroism and The sponsorship deal of an Asylum. These are what blessed a young Bruce Wayne with the powers of Martha!
@@dedrik1461 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I was thinking the same exact thing.....sort of 😅
@@dedrik1461 Maria Stark
I remember hearing once of a crossover between DC and Marvel that actually put certain characters against each other, including Batman and Captain America. Unlike the other match ups, however, that fight ended in a draw because neither one of them truly wanted to fight each other.
the problem with that series was half the books were written by DC half were written by Marvel. thus you have writers who make their guy come out on top. I also think that they had fan votes for who would win this particular fight etc.
In the situation you mentioned. Bats says that it's conceivable that Cap could eventually beat him. but they never get that far and as you said their fight ended in a draw, Dunno if it was that the writer didn't want to tarnish the reputations of either character or not.
in that case it is not a draw its clear that batman wins the fight because captain america has super soldier serum but batman is all human with training and intellect yet it was a draw then who win in your opinion
@@Dwergarphalanx let’s be realistic, idk how much you in particular know about both Marvel and Dc comics, but in reality Cap would lose Mid diff. I’m sure both brands didn’t want to make the their character seem bad. Cap’s ability to ADAPT absolutely will
Not be enough to beat somebody with 127+ skills MASTERED . His raw strength and “I can do this all day” will power are his biggest advantages. Batman took punches from Deathstroke, Bane, Wonderwoman, Weakened Superman, Etc. So Cap’s strength isn’t a problem. Just look at the feats. Absolutely non-bias , Batman beats ALOT (almost every street tier) of people. I think he would high Diff Spidey but that’s a different talk for a different day
@@Wooch1x You want realistic in a comic book universe??? That won't happen. As an example, as i understand it it takes years to master a Martial art. I read some where that they listed 3 forms, and if you used these as a baseline to figure out the average years it would take to master M.A.'s then multiply that by all 127, he'd have to be over 600 years old. But again this is a comic book universe so we can ignore the facts on how long it would take to master a martial art, let alone 127 of them. Unless he has an Eidetic Memory, then that would be impossible.
Also the crossover comic was written by a guy who works(dunno if he did at the time) for both Marvel and DC. He has an understanding of the two characters and i would surmise that both companies would have had to ok the way the characters were written before they went to print.
I honestly couldn't care less if he could be beaten by Cap or not, but the particular comic that was brought up, it was stated in it that, and i requote it, "Bats says that it's conceivable that Cap could eventually beat him." and as i stated above, we never get to that stage.
@@Dwergarphalanx I wasn’t LITERALLY saying be realistic, I meant it in a way of seeing put the bias and love for the characters aside. Batman would win alot easier then people think
My excitement for this video based on title was equally matched by my disappointment in your reasoning by the end. So much 'he just would'
That's because he just would. He is Batman. Batman's plot armor is indestructible
@@XzNytro his plot armor is weaker than hulks pants
I actually thought they would put some thought into this. How wrong. Hulk - Tranquilizer in drink. Keep him sleeping. Put him somewhere and just keep him asleep. Over and over. Black Widow - Hand to hand, it's close but he wins. Full on with everything it's a long fight. Could go either way honestly. Batman edge because of his ability to learn about his opponent. Hawkeye - Good argument. Ant-Man - Depends on how much he knows. With no prep in a death match - Ant-Man Pym wins. With prep and knowledge of Pym Bat Tech specifically designed to stop Pym would give Batman the win. Lang. Ant-Man would lose once Batman figured out what was happening. He just would. A la If Falcon could see him and Iron Man could remove him from his suit, Bats could figure out how to neutralize him. Probably with pepper spray or something similar. Sorry. More in the next comment.
In Man of Steel #3, Batman had almost no knowledge of Superman and had only read about him. Having to go to Metropolis, he prepped a suit that was designed to detect super-dense material. This was to keep Superman from touching him, once he made the Man of Steel aware that a bomb would go off somewhere in the city if he did. If he could design that early in his career, he could design something to detect tiny living tissue - Ant-Man or the Wasp. It could set off an electrical charge if they enter his space, rendering them unconscious. Or dead. I don't know Wasp's tolerance to electricity but the targeted laser would do the trick. See next. Quicksilver could get a lot done if he just showed up and did the deed. But he would probably talk a lot and show off a bit. So a mild laser array in Bats' suit triggered by anything going faster than 250 mph could potentially give Pietro a reason to get to a hospital or totally ruin his day. Targeting systems' speed are rather incredible these days. I almost forgot. For Falcon, he would try to engage him in a ground fight by finding his radio frequency and talking him down. Then, he would ninja surprise him and take him out.
Vision? Outsmarting him would definitely be the way to go. Perhaps a logic bomb or simply presenting him with a choice that he knows Vision, acting human, will follow to get him to go elsewhere. I don't know that an emp would work on him. Lastly, the Scarlet Witch. Here, as seen in WandaVision, the strategy Batman used with Ace wouldn't work. Ace really just wants to be treated well and left alone. Wanda has had massive trauma in the comics and the film and tv shows. Batman would have a conversation with her. But it would be a different one than he would have with Ace. Think Superman's conversation with Dr. Manhattan but appealing to her own self-awareness as a human being so that she makes the decision to stop whatever she is doing to mess things up. So, different from the conversation with Ace but ultimately not so different. With Zatanna and possibly Constantine as backups. There you have it. My version of what Batman could do to take out the Avengers.
A lot of the batman scenarios really do rely heavily on “with prep and money, anything is possible”
Course the same applies in reverse. Any of the avengers I’m aware of could quite easily beat iron man with some prep. Or none, given you’d basically just have to tell quicksilver or thor Bruce is at a party and to smack him really hard.
Literally Vice versa anyone can beat Batman as well lmao his mouth is out and open
@@fritz_of_blitz9403 Not really. He isn’t inherently more vulnerable to sliding around then anyone else, additionally he could go on all fours yet maintain high speeds much easier. He could just go as slow as anyone else on the lower body.
That also didn’t negate any of my post in the first place.
@@marcozuniga1186 Yup!
Or he just straight up loses to Hulk right out the gate. The whole "kill him while he's Banner" just wouldn't work because we're talking about a vs battle, not a comic where the writer has freedom to write bs wank. Banner can survive lethal damage and transform withing an instant. Hulk would just punch him once and it's GG.
@@Theoszombie Oh, yeah, you’re right. Even the movie version transforms *after* lethal damage was supposed to take place.
How every member could defeat Batman: Utter the name "Martha"
“WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!” 😂
😂😂😂😂
@@niulagoo WHY
DID
YOU
SAY
THAT
NAME!!!
What's the chances of them knowing his mother's name. It just so happened that Superman's and Batman's mother's were named the same and that's very rare.
LMFAO HAHAHA
I just wanna bring up the fact that while Bruce Banner can die Hulk could theoretically come back from the dead (only the Hulk)
For a better explanation Hela has Bruce Banners name in her book but not Hulk
What's he going to do to banner? He spends all the time saying how he'd get to Bruce but what's he going to do then? Shoot him? The other guy will spit it out and crush him......pym, hawkeye, Nat are his only wins.
@@michealburns8017 pym would be a tough one
@Eager Boi it's not Canon and people voted for who they wanted to win the match ups
@@michealburns8017 he would just put him in a cage that drops in gas to nullify his anger, he’s actually the easiest for Batman.
Because I'm Batman!
the godamn Batman!!! frank miller batman
"I didn't have to go around *TELLING* people I'm Batman. *They knew.*
-Adam West
_The Big Bang Theory
@This Is What Awesome Looks Like until Batman hits him in the eyes with a batarang lol
HISHE? W!
So this joke isn't very effective anymore....
Something to note about Iron Man is that he can remote control a suit. So if Batman got the drop on him, what would stop Tony from just flying away to a safe location and send a suit? And if Batman somehow beats it....Tony could send another? And if Batman somehow was able to reach Tony in that location, Tony could just fly away with another suit.
Tony has just too many advantages even if he's caught off guard.
True but stark would only have so many suits before he runs out, after that he's toast
@@AmberMetallicScorpion
that make him get prep time against batman , and then he would make the batman buster.
@@chongwillson972 at that point it would be a battle of wit, and given how he's used wit to beat the likes of gods, i'd say the odds are in batmans favour there
@@AmberMetallicScorpion
and iron man has also did the same thing before.
even having dyson sphere just laying around.
I feel like batman would be able to just hack his whole system
"Sometimes the truth Isn't good enough, sometimes people need more" -Batman
Mad respect Bruce
"Subscribe to Pewdiepie"
-why do you need my name?
LMAO I love that 😂 Tony is Bruce Wayne with an ego up to 11.
And with no fight skills
@@mr.pockets8523 and like half indigent as Batman
@@mr.pockets8523 No fight skills? ruclips.net/video/gBvr85qlnuk/видео.html Stark's damn near at Bats's level WITHOUT the tech.
He deserves that ego. Bruce Wayne has to have other people make the tech for him. Stark makes his own, and his makes Wayne's look like army surplus.
@@JohnCastleSmokeless No lol, Starks fighting skills is still nowhere compared to batman, Batman knows every martial art in the world and he is peak human, In terms of strength batman and Captain America is considered equal
"I'm glade you stayed Batman, Yours is one of the best strategic minds in ALL EXISTENCE" - The World Forger (6th Dimensional Being) to Batman.
Yeah I recall Batman making a suit in that storyline that allows him to rewrite a person at the cellular level
@@glowhoo9226 Yeah that is the Final Batsuit.
I don’t know about anyone else but, I’d really like to see what an encounter between Batman and Dr Doom would look like.
Add magic to the Iron Man entry and you've got it.
Why?
My pal Doom would win
Where’s this energy when Penguin and Riddler be stomping him? 🤣🤣
Straight up lol
lol I mean, there has to be a storyline right? I do prefer that Batman better than the one who throws hands against Superman and Darkside. Sometimes writers get to high.
This is exactly what I tell people whenever this shit comes up.
Exactly, Bane be beating the brakes off him but somehow he can beat Thor or Cap. 🙄
@@timothycrosby4251 RIGHT?! And its not like Cap has not studied... the syrum supposedly enhanced his cognative abilities, so his reflexes and understanding and planning would all come to play as well.
This video was basically
“Batman would win”
Evidence: Trust me bro
Lmao basically
I mean it's true tho
It was more just a showcase of the avengers weaknesses
@@pawnsicle4738 just shows Batman > Marvel lol
It wasn't
How Batman Would Defeat Each Member Of The Avengers?
He will call Superman... He will let him do the job...
superman will lose if red sun radiation comes. Batman is much better using hellbat.
Lol
Frame the avengers in killing lois
And here we go bye bye marvel universe..
@@Aaryansshorts76539 lmao just put super man in a box and he can’t get sunlight lmao
@@TheElevenFirst and how are you planning to put him in a box?
I like Batman a lot but I still think it’s ridiculous that he can defeat just about anyone. Probably even God himself.
I feel like the light speed seizure bullet would kill anyone
I think it would just be a normal seizure for regular people but still pretty serious
lol
Not dr Manhattan
The bullet was designed to vibrate at the exact frequency Flash uses to phase through things so... it would probably just going to be as lethal as a normal bullet to non vibrating foes
It would go so fast it wouldn’t touch anyone except speedsters
Narrator: So Batman, how are you gonna beat all these new and powerful hero's if you had to?
Batman: I'm built different.
This would be a crazy crossover.
@Eager Boi I know. But, I mean just Batman solo facing off with the avengers 1 by 1.
@@dezaina9961 the only reason he’d win is cause the writers let it happen
@@mjkoolaid1511 true. But I’ll take it.
@Eager Boi then he took on the X-Men in the following crossover.
@@mjkoolaid1511 he could if he wants to. In batman who laughs he has defeated the entire justice league all by himself and if we compare both sides, JL is stronger with metahumans and aliens on their side.
"WiTh pRep TimE BaTmaN caN bEat anYonE!" Yea ok keep believing that
I didn't watch the video because blaaa blaaa blaaa plot device... blaaa blaaa blaaa prep time
Facts dc sucks
Yeah this video is basically a Batman fanboys Wet dream 🤣 it was still interesting tho
@@ebonkinght Well, batman can beat most of the avengers given enough prep time tho. Its a fact dude
"He can attack Banner"... Except that Hulk has protected Banner from explosions.
"He could concoct a plan so that Thor become unworthy to wield Mjolnir and..." hopefully all this happens before Thor sends the unstoppable hammer through his skull.
"Once Batman gets in close, it's over for Rogers" Are you stupid? Cap has super strength, agility, speed AND intelligence. Not to mention he's trained in a ton of fighting styles (including with Widow, Hawkeye, Daredevil, and Panther).
Bats using an EMP device to take Iron Man out? Are you serious? You don't think that's the first failsafe Tony thought about? Jfc.
Wanda can lock him in a pocket reality where mom and dad didn't die or just erase him.
He only really has a chance against Widow and Barton. And they're both basically mixes of Deadshot and Deathstroke.
bro he can beat a lot of them like the other dude said hulk and Scarlet witch are his biggest threats i mean if he plans it he can definitely do it i mean when your feared by a god then that’s saying something and plus the dude made some fare points so yeah it’s definitely possible for batman to win and i’m not saying i’m a fan but i’m saying ik the character very well and i love marvel but as much as ik all the characters it just makes since to me i can definitely see him winning against them or at least give them one hell of a fight before one of them get lucky and yeah thor could do this and yea iron man could have this back up or some shot but your basically saying the same thing the other guys saying but in reverse it’s possible but u can’t Account for it u domt know it’s who ever gets the upper hand first and if batman plans it right like he usually does he can win
Truthfully his biggest threat in the main avengers team would be Thor. After that it would be Stark. People think he's useless without his suit but it's not true. Cap is good but bats has fought superhumans of that caliber many times. But Hulk by far would be alot less of an issue then most people think. Its a psychological issue at heart and bats knows all about those. To tell you the truth I think he's got everybody but Thor and iron man.
@JezzyBeast naw dude and you can tell by my username I'm a fan of Batman. But when it comes to prep time that assumes they know and everyone is preparing. And they got stark. Dude CREATED an element. Bats is smart but he's not exactly a military grade weapons developer. And then on top of that I cant even name a weakness of Thor, except maybe snakes, particularly giant ones.
@JezzyBeast yeah tru they are tuff but what the other dude said i mean tru thor and iron would put up a solid fight and yeah i can agree with some stuff your saying but hulk and Scarlet witch are super powerful but i respect your opinion and iron man i mean he is something with out the suit but not all that batman is without his so i mean i love iron man but i could consider him that big of a threat but he would be the one to make a come back pretty hard considering batman don’t kill iron man would make a come back eventually thor he’s strong but if he just uses what he used on wonder woman i mean bats would be fine and prep time yeah usually thing that said but with all do respect isn’t that why batman is the tactician to the jla because he can plan and prep extremely well including knowing his team‘s weaknesses and strengths
@The Real Joker i get what your saying but batman has studied alien Technology from almost everywhere and a lot of that is stronger technology then what iron man has so in comic in continuity it has stated that Batman has studied taken apart rebuilt alien technology from everywhere even war worlds such as apocalypse which is literally a war world and they have a world that is actually called war world with tech from there so I have no doubt in my mind that Batman would be able to do something against Tony Stark I mean Tony Starks a genius but if bats is prepared he’ll be fine but Batman don’t kill so Tony Stark will come back and end up winning the next fight because he will be prepared but if no one knows he’s coming they’re done
I got two scenarios in. Couldn't go any further. "If we build the scenario that ignores all of the opponent's strengths and highlights their weaknesses while doing the opposite for Batman, he totally wins."
Exactly! That’s Batman’s superpower….the way that he’s written. Everyone else is dumb in his presence. Folks forget how to strategize and plan for Batman while he alone can adjust and counter opponents.
How? Using his PIS. Plot induced stupidity.
He basically has plot armour whenever he goes against anything out of Gotham city.
I love him going up against his villains but can't stand when he teams up the justice league and holds his own.
The "prep time" excuse is boring.
If I tell you the secret to defeat Hulk, do you promise not to use it for evil?
Okay, hear me out: Vaporwave music. Try to stay angry against the most chill music style in the universe. I dare you.
😆
Just do the puppy bomb and he will chill out
I couldn't even stay angry at your comment. You may be on to something.
“Alfred. Prep the Tame Impala for a Code Green.”
And a nice chubby spliff...
The issue with the Hulk fight is the only way Batman could win is by sedating him and keeping him sedated, as the Hulk has shown to be able to respond to threats that Banner couldn't, even unconscious.
And the hulk is literally immortal even as banner
And cant hulks ability to heal also work when hes in banner form?
@@bear-er5jz I may be wrong but I believe Hulks healing does not work on Banner. However, if something life threatening happens to Bruce, Hulk emerges and regenerates. So not really but kind of. 😂
Batman has could employ Jokor's laughing toxin if it's a part of his regular kit, and if it isn't he'd need to know prior. But then if he know's prior then we have the famous "Batman planning time" in which case he'll definitely win.
Some flaws in this:
Antman & Wasp can both go subatomic in the films and pass though anything while doing so.
Thor wouldn't be affected by radion. He's not a New God, therefore he doesn't have that vulnerability.
Not a flaw, but, at least according to Death Battle, Bats can indeed defeat Cap.
Although in Marvel v DC (1996) Bats conceded to Captain America
@@rogerakhan74 well things csn be inconsistent
Well for Ant Man- he can use nanites, that can manipulate at a subatomic level, and fear toxins to force him to develop a combination of Megalophobia, the intense fear of large objects, and Vestiophobia, irrational fear of clothing, which will ensure that he won't shrink and forces him to take his suit off.
As for Thor- Well pretty much he has no traditional weakness, but he is susceptible towards magic, like the time where he was instantly killed by a magic arrow shot to the chest before Odin revived him. Batman has a magical artifact installed in the Justice Buster which is called The Bind Of Veils, a relic created by the god Hephaestus, which binds the target in a illusion, leaving them frozen in place (kinda like genjutsus from Naruto), then there's the tooth of Jormungandr, which is capable of injuring or outright kill him, one can be found in a museum, in which it was stolen and given to Rhino, replacing his horn, and managed to take down Thor. Batman found the Bind of Veils from the black market, surely he can find a tooth of Jormungandr just as easily, and with those two combination I'm sure it will be effective of taking Thor down.
@@tsnoob4669 Jesus
Yeah this guy seems to really like batman. When talking about Iron man he first mentions Iron Man's tech and gadgets being better than batmans, then also mentions batman's gadgets as a strong point, like you just said iron man had better tech why are you even mentioning it.
Iron Man wouldn’t be taken out with an emp because his suit isn’t powered by electricity but by the electromagnetic battery in his chest. The emp blast would only turn into energy for the suit to recharge.
We legit saw this in avengers. Any electrical charge will just charge the suit
that was a thunder continous energy and it is emp electromagnetic Impulse there is a difference suits semiconductors can be destroy by emp
@@fleefox3948 he has a nanotech suit not his old suit stark learns from his mistake so when he first got electrocuted he modified his suit
I like how a bullet to the brain couldn't kill Banner but Batman would just take him out
Yeah, he isn't beating Hulk
@@asaadbobby1 yeah he is. heard of hellbat?
Beating doesnt mean kill ... he could neutralize him ... also batman doesnt kill remember ?
@@silversurfer6360 Never said Batman WOULD kill him..
Just pointing out the Hulk's gonna come out when Banner is in danger period
Dr Manhattan can beat both
It's funny how realisticly the only strength Batman has is prep time
so to beat The Hulk he just waits until he isn't mad anymore? Then my six year old son could beat The Hulk. What a cop out.
Work smarter, not harder
@@parabellum2o999 That’s pretty much what he does to Bane in Arkham origins
Agreed. Scarecrow fear toxin would be much more effective.
Batman's greatest power is the worship of rabid fanboys.
So Batman can beat Thor lol no chance
@@anthonymarcus3259 Batman can tank hits from Wonder woman and Superman, dodge Darkseid omega beams, smart enough to beat Rai's Al Ghul in chess, and skilled enough to beat the likes of Deathstroke and Lady shiva. With all of that and some prep time for both Batman can pull of a victory.
@@jeremiahcrain7023
Batman beating Deathstroke and lady Shiva in hand-to-hand combat is PIS. Even in his bat-suit he would lose more times than win against Slade. Slade beats him in pretty much every single aspect of the game.
@@justinobuscape7031 Batman is a genius and has beaten both on multiple occasions. He's known for defying the odds.
Shut up Avengers fan boy
With iron man, bat man could never be certain he wasn't dealing with an empty suit!
Batman will super EMP ironmans suits.
@@roninnovastar1321 he can’t spam an emp on all the suits
I really don’t see how Batman could defeat hulk
I love Batman but he would stand very little chance in a straight up fight with Cpt America. Cap knows about as many fighting styles as Batman and even if we said they are on the same strength level, Cap's endurance and Stamina are on a completely different level.
Thank you!!
@justin amaya lol cap cannot lift 104 tons, never. He can beat batman in a straight up close fight tho as he is a super soldier
@justin amaya when did he do this? Maybe I've forgotten
If it was a straight up fist fight maybe, but that's not always how Batman operates. Cap is very smart, and a great tactician, but not enough to take down the Bat. They aren't equals, but Batman has taken down other characters significantly stronger than him such as Bane.
I think in a straight up fight, Cap would win most of the time, but there would be a good few times Batman would win, thanks to his sheer intellect. This is in the pure combat department.
Batman is a master of stealth, being able to sneak up on people with far better senses than Cap, such as Superman. Cap has very good senses, but he's not omniscient to his surroundings, and I am certain Batman could own Cap if he used his stealth tactics, something he could absolutely do.
In a straight up fights, no stealth it anything, I think it's very possible Batman could win. He mastered an insane number of fighting styles, like Cap, and has intelligence far behind Cap, although Steve isn't dumb, he is actually very smart, but I just don't think he's near the Bat in the intelligence department.
Still, Cap could very well beat Batman, they are actually surprisingly even in my mind. If could go either way a lot of the time. In a straight fight, Cap could definitely win, but throw in stealth, and gadgets, and Batman dominates.
This is just my analysis though. I could be wrong. I'm just making my best guess. I'm interested in people giving me counter arguments, as long as it's not mean.
@@michaelgillespie9112 Thank you. Plus Steve doesn't know nearly enough martial arts as batman. 127 martial arts and 56 types of escape techniques (don't know the proper term). Tactically superior. Strategically superior. He would figure out very early that steve can't be overpowered by him. He will implore a more strategic fight. Captain America will be hit and taken down from every angle... not even to mention the fact that he knows every single pressure point on the human body. Sure Steve's physique is durable but with the way batman can punch it's just impossible for Steve to just walk it off. So if they fought to the death, the bat wins. If they fought to apprehend the other. The possibility of Steve winning is a lot more possible.
All the Batman dong blowing is ridiculous
Hulk: RAHHHHHHHH!!!!
Batman: I'm Batm....whoa!!!!
*Hulk Loki Smashes Batman*
*Hulk walks off*
Puny Winged Rat
You are simping for Batman SO hard.
"Hello Mr. Batman. I'm a huge fan of yours. I love you 3001."
@Anthony De La Cruz Flawless Victory! Batman Wins! And then he chuckles, victorious
C'mmom Batman wont engage Steve in a hand to hand combat! Captain is stronger, faster, more durable, and can react faster as well! Bruce is almost Peak human and captain IS Peak human
Actually, Cap is slightly superhuman at the very least.
Deathstroke is all the things Captain America is and Batman has beaten him. Also not likely Captain America can outsmart Batman, Batman is also a more skilled fighter so Captain would have a hard time landing a hit on Batman.
@justin amaya oh sorry, forgot about that one
Now do “How Batman Would Defeat Each Member Of The X-Men”!
@@chris26479 Agreed
@@chris26479 Surely he could fashion some sort of cowl that blocks telepaths?
@@chris26479 That isn’t ‘literally any psychic’ though lol
@@chris26479 So you meant specific psychics, not literally any psychic? I see
Sentinels
Batman fights ussualy : well planned fights Batman fights with scarlet witch: emotional damage
This should just be a 1 second video of Jules saying the word “easily”
This is true
So true
April 1st was a few days ago
A Batman fanboy, if ever I saw one!😂
I am too
I love Batman but if we’re being real there’s no way he defeats the Hulk or Thor
I love Batman too, his only problem is that he never loses for long.
nah Batman would find a way because he’s Batman
batman would easily defeat them
I feel Batman’s superpower is being able to find a way to defeat anyone
All these battle plans presuppose that The Avengers are kind enough to provide Bats with a comprehensive spreadsheet of all their strengths/weakenesses prior to attack.
Yeah. Batman has the edge on a lot of justice leaguers because he's known them for years and they've trusted him enough to open up about stuff. He's taken time to prepare for them should they go rogue.
This list also assumes that he'd get to take them out one at a time in a vacuum where none of the Avengers are alerted that someone is apparently hunting them down.
Batman isn't afraid to be a stalker. He'd find out about them whether they'd want him to or not. Batman figured out the OG JL's secret identities before they were even aware that he knew.
No batman figured out Martian man hunters weakness within minutes he can find out their weakness and shield is easily infiltrated and he’s skilled enough to pass as someone that’s supposed to be there
@@rustyshackleford2950 with a couple of hours of prep time batman destroys
Finding out the Avenger's true identities isn't the hard part. Most are a matter of public record in universe.
As for Batman's ability to "stalk".
Batman couldn't even figure out that there were three different guys calling themselves The Joker, and most of the Avengers identities are a matter of public record. He somehow didn't know he had a kid for years. A teenager figured out his secret identity.
You think Batman is gonna be able to counter Tony's stuff? Tony has tech that can rewrite his cellular structure. Pym can shrink and outgrow the universe itself and his A.I. has a habit of becoming more powerful and advanced than even him.
People have tried kill Bruce Banner to avoid the hulk. It did not go well for them.
Batman got his own satellite AI hijacked by Maxwell Lord and his back broken by a guy on super steroids.
Batman is a great character and one of my favorites. But he wins because his name is on the book, just like every other comic character, and in a thought experiment, "because he's Batman" isn't gonna hold up to scrutiny.
There are a LOT of “ifs” being said on Stark and Scarlet Witch 😂
These theories sound like crap 🤷🏾♂️
Batman nerds for you
Like u?
Yes they do but its probably how it would turn out
I mean we all know DC Batman always to have win even surviving a full power punch of darkseid who even hurts Superman and Supergirl
Imagine What Would Happen If Batman Put On Hellbat Armour
As I recall, when Batman and Cap met, they spent about five minutes feinting and feeling each other out, at which point Batman said, "Okay, you could beat me, but it would take hours. Now that we've settled that, shall we figure out what's going on here?"
That wasn't canon and they likely won't meet again 🤨
@@metamorphosisclagaborphisi3926, true, but I thought it was a great depiction of how they might interact. Everyone else was busy trying to prove who the top dog was, and Cap and Batman simply established that it would be a tough fight and then worked together.
Yea I remember that one.
Right
Batman just got Cap off his @$$ so they could work together. Deep down, Bat still had a zillion plans on how to neutralize Cap.
Agree to disagree. Cap is a phenomenal fighter and can more than hold his own. Even against fighters with overall fighting knowledge. His strength, speed, agility, strategies and Inhuman stamina are incredible.
Check out their Death Battle sometime.
Batman iq 190
Iron man iq 270
Hmmmmm🧐
The matter is not about how much iq they have, its the way they think and do things
I'm not so sure Bat's could take Cap' in physical confrontation Cap: I can do this all day. Would wear Bruce down even with all the insane fighting skills at his disposal. Cap' is trained in forge of combat all the techniques are not gonna matter if you opponent can outlast you in a fight.
It would definitely be battle of the tech with Iron Man, but you mentioned EMP I'm sure Tony has EM hardened his armor for this reason.
I hate the “Batman always wins” mantra. Batman is #1, my favorite hero of all time, and it’s because he loses. Loses to bane, Ra’s al Ghul, the joker. His stories are inherently the most compelling of any comic book because he doesn’t have superpowers and he does, in fact, lose a bunch.
To quote the great Thomas Wayne “why do we get knocked down? So we can learn to pick ourselves back up” that’s Batman.
In the Arkham Asylum graphic novel he loses and only survives because at the end his fate is decided by Harvey Dent's coin.
He's Batman, give him enough time and he can beat anyone.
What about Goku
@@internetbuff2086 if batman have enough time and knowing that goku can transform because of the cells( comfirmed from Akira toriyama that these cells make them transform when they all go into the back) in the back and find a way to destroy these cells then goku will lose his way of transforming wich means he will be weak probably goku base form is enough to kil goku unless in that base form batman use a op virus wich kil in his base like in cell saga
What about Shaggy
@@tylerjones7592 one word FOOD
Not iron man they have the same powers at this point but iron man is better equipped , also plot armor isn't a super power
Is there a version of this video that isn't just a big sloppy kiss to Batman?
It's how would he not what would happen. Nobody wants to hear Batman would lose to Thor, Hulk, Scarlet witch, et cetera. we already know that would happen.
These are just theoretical scenarios in which Batman could take advantage of the avengers.
You know the whole point of Batman is he always wins with prep time right
@Anthony De La Cruz pretty much
@@proffesornugget1613 batman with prep time is a joke. He's not even a real hero. His city is shit. His family crooks. Frank castle does a better vigilante job. Trash ain't gonna take itself out.
@@luistorres6956 nevermind the fact that he's taken down Superman on multiple occasions, and has killed Darkseid. If Batman is given ample prep time, he's able to find even the tiniest weakness in any opponent and use them to his advantage.
There was a Hulk versus Batman crossover in 1981 written by Len Wein and wonderfully drawn by Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez. If you can find it, really worth checking it out.
Yup. He gassed the Hulk.
Yeah I remember this one. It had great art. It was a strange matchup for sure. It was kind of ridiculous that he could knockout the Hulk with gas from his utility belt. I remember when Doc Sampson was fighting the Hulk and ordered the army to fire the gas rounds at them. Both feel unconscious and one of the soldiers stated that Sampson knew that any gas strong enough to knockout the Hulk would be strong enough to kill him but still gave the order. The gas was able to seep into the pores so the Hulk couldn't avoid it. Normal gas wouldn't cut it. If it could knockout the Hulk, and possibly kill Sampson, then it would easily kill Batman.
@@aryudsoh You expect comics to honor continuity? lol
@@jakemonster001 yep, through great plot armor, Batman won. How you can gas Hulk makes little sense because Hulk has a plethora of ways to overcome some gas.
@@jakemonster001 you're right. Not sure what I was thinking! Lol
All marvel need to do.to beat a D.C hero is release a film 😏
And yet they can't touch TDK
@@battinson3888 or Venice & Oscar winning Joker
@@Kratos40595 exactly
I would say they beat joker in wandavision
@@dampy355 I don't think so
Like I always say: Batman’s true superpower is his toxic fanbase🤦🏾♂️
Black Widow would beat Batman easily.
Batman (sees Black Widow): oh.. hi I'm batman. You wanna know my... secret identity?
You took that from hishe
@@jaxsonkolsky1309 no kidding...
Then he just waits for Selina, Talia, and Diana to beat her to death.
How iron man would defeat Batman: Shooting him or using cheeky tank missile 💪💪💪🤘😎
Nobody cares about Simon Williams - Wonder Man?
He’s an Avenger too.
Wasn't he first a West Coast Avenger?
This video ended too soon. You forgot the other 200+ Avengers on the roster. Also, there's no way in hell Batman beats Squirrel Girl. No way.
Yes. It's right in the name: "The Unbeatable Squirrel Girl"
Sorry bud her gag doesn't work outside of marvel
@@tano3166 Well then, neither would Batman's rule of Batman always wins work outside DC
@@Deadpool-lover that's not a rule lol he wins due to strategy and technology
@@tano3166 Have you not read the Dark Multiverse. Inside the comics, it literally describes The Batman Who Laughs as Batman's rule of he always wins with The Joker's brutality
Cap and Bats actually had a fight in a cross over comic. Well... it was more of a sparring match. Batman admitted Cap would beat him, but said it would not be easy
Same crossover where they made batman beat the hulk from knockout gas. So much inconsistencies for the plot. I've learned it's just best to enjoy all the characters for what they are and to stop comparing them
That was not Cannon
in amalgam , cannonic , he defeated cap .
@@mccain334 It was actually cannon pre New 52. The cosmic egg from the Trinity series, originated from JLA/Avengers.
Knockout gas is the only real way to beat the Hulk. Any physical attack just makes him angrier and more powerful (although I suppose Superman could just keep punching him until he explodes).
Also, "canon" is established and accepted history and philosophy; a "cannon" is a large bore ordnance.
batman's superpower was always plot armor
Fun fact, Shiva also mastered a few lost or forgotten, or however you want to word that one, that Batman doesn’t. She’s probably the best hand to hand combatant in the DC universe. Now a fight with her and Shang-Chi would be something else.
Everyone’s got plans, Gordon’s got plans
They’re schemers
@@Batman-wd7gy Trying to control their little worlds. You were a schemer too, Harvey, and look where that got you.
@@jakubrejak1114 I just did what I do best. I took your little plan and I turned it on itself.
@@kjpierson1152 I'm just trying to show schemers how... _pathetic_ their attempts at controlling reality are. See, nobody panics when things go according to the plan - even if the plan itself is HORRIFYING - because it's all *part of the plan.*
Stop using my lines! Lol
The best way to beat Thor is just to become worthy. Then wear hardened plastic armour. Then vaporiser him.
I think nightwing might be worthy
No. It's make him feel like he is not Worthy
You batman nerds kill me aint no way he stopping Hulk wanda vision etc.
@@jnmartin1992 hulk deff Wanda no chance
Batman would already be worthy if he needed to become worthy it would defeat the purpose therefore he would not become worthy IF he wasn’t already
Jewel you know Batman well. For the Scarlet Witch. I agree he will treat her Ace. Also did anyone cried when Ace died? That episode really was emotional, and unfair for little Ace not having a childhood. One episode that really made me sad and angry at the same time.
Ah yes, EMP gun against Iron Man. Genius idea, except for the fact, that from mark 3 and on, his armors can absorb electricity based attacks to charge his own systems rather than actually take damage. As seen in the first avengers moovie when he fights Thor.
What about a batmagnet 🤣
EMP is not electricity
@@Blox117 EMP stands for electro-magnetic pulse. Now grab a book on physics, and check what those do to circuitry in any machine hit by it.
Magnetic force can generate an electric charge, and electricity following a certain path can create magnetic force. The 2 are, and always were correlated. Now tell me, how does an EMP not damage most machinery by overloading it's capacitors, and effectively frying the system with an electric overload?
@@Wortigon2000 oops, another comic book virgin pretending he knows something
@@Wortigon2000 EMP is not electricity. go read what electricity is.
I do have to disagree with the emp angle for Ironman, as most of his armors are basically nuclear powered, not by a conventional battery.
EMP fries electronics, it would work against ironman.
@@heinrichvonschnitzel8600 it wouldn't fry nuclear powered devices. Nuclear energy is organic whereas a conventional battery is synthetic. Also, nuclear energy is generally what causes an emp, it's not usually effected by it.
@@heinrichvonschnitzel8600 his suit has measures against EMPs, when one approaches the armour quickly turns off and back on again
@@heinrichvonschnitzel8600 my guy iron suits from 3 on and emp proof
@@keifergilchrist3081 Iron Man may by nuclear powered, but his nuke powered suit still has electronics.
😂 y'all need to get off Batmans rod he can't even keep Joker in check let alone take out all of the Avengers 😂 not even talking about Hulk or Thor but Wanda Maximoff would change reality for Batman and probably turn him into a pickled herring 😆
All of Batman's Ws against God level threats are because of plot armor.
bruh stop using emojis thats dumb🤢
@@looneyllama then *proceeds to use emoji*🌚
@@looneyllama somebody with a name like yours shouldn't be calling anyone dumb 😂
Nah Batman would win anyways because he’s Batman
An idiot with a plan can defeat a genius without a plan
In this case ironman is the genius with a plan and Bruce is the idiot also with a plan, not saying Bruce is dumb his iq level is 192 which is Einstein level and the average persons is around 100 but Tony's is 270 nearly 100 above Bruce which makes batman look like he has an average mind
Thor may be the toughest one on here especially considering how long he has lived, he may have learned more fighting styles than even Batman, perhaps some that are unknown to humans as well. Paired with tirelessness, strength, etc. Batman faces a tough hand to hand fight. Thors abilities make it even tougher.
of all the avengers thor is the only one that batman cant defeat..
Broes thor and hulk only use raw power not skilss , and asgardians have weakness ,
@@f521_editzz6 Name at least one major weakness of asgardians that can be properly utilized. Also Thor not only use raw power, he is a really skilled warrior and one of the most versatile members of Avengers remembering how many op abilities Mjolnir have.
@@f521_editzz6 Raw power is better than skill in a lot of situations. Ninja moves vs a country destroying strike. Batman can use martial arts but that won’t save you against a nuclear missile.
@@dexodon3304 bro if thor can't beat iron man it mean thor can't beat batman two
I already seen someone say something that caught my attention in the video. Your saying ant man (the dude that can go so small he goes into Quantum realm) can’t go into Batman’s suit?? Nope not buying it. All he has to do is get in the suit and go big. Quick death for Batman. And Antman isn’t even close to being the most deadly on this list.
I love Batman like the rest but y’all give him way too much credit. Go ahead and take Thor and Cap off his wins too.
True also like he didn’t stand a chance agents scarlet witch no matter what he dose
This entire video just feels wrong.
hellbat would speedblitz before that happens. or batman can missile bomb the area.
@@x-rax716 the hellbat couldn't even win against Darkseid
@@SipDeathTheKid He doesn't need the hellbat suit to beat darkseid
He's not beating thor
Hate to say it but he's beaten ppl as and more powerful. Thor ain't invincible 🤷🏽♂️
@@Orb745 except so far as i know any time that's happened they've either had a physical weakness he could use like in superman or darkseid's case, or it's someone he's known for a long time, or both. Neither of those apply to thor, and he's a lot less likely to hold back against batman than someone like superman or wonder woman, both of whom could kill him with a single hit if they wanted
@@colmdeeny3042 yeah that's true but read the video title and then think about the concept of the video. It's about the T&C to how BATMAN WOULD WIN. The reason the video exists its because of how batman is written E.g. 'With enough prep time he can beat anyone.' We all know batman would get smacked realistic by most ppl thas a given. But the situations in this video have to be in batman's for for him to win that's LITERALLY the point of the video.
@@colmdeeny3042 and I'm not saying that batman is given wins like he's the most hardworking character in my opinion out JL and probably the avengers but when you put ppl like batman against superman and thor the favours have to be one a side E.g. batman owning kryptonite and using it against superman (not all the time tho)
@@Orb745 yeah I get the point of the video, all I'm saying is that it's gotten to a point where many people seem to think batman beats literally anyone given prep even though that really only works when he knows the people well, whether they're superheroes he's fought with or villains he's fought against, and while I do like batman, this is the one thing about him I don't like
Realstically, Batman would most likely lose his first encounter vs most of the Avengers members only then he can defeat them by analizing their weaknesses, if he survives of course
Batman is so effective against the Justice League and his Rogue's gallery because he's around them so much. He's not just gonna have access to the weaknesses, identities, and all this other stuff he has when betraying his friends trust and making contingency plans to harm and kill them. In a straight up fight, Bruce gets smooshed by like 90% of the Avengers.
Batman can straight up think up new tactics mid battle. Hes done this before
@@DbladeMedic Thinking up new tactics doesn't mean that mid-battle he has access to the means to carry them out. And again, in this scenario he's never fought these people with fantastical abilities before. He's not gonna come up with a way to negate them or get around them on the fly. He wouldn't figure out Superman is weak to Kryptonite if he just showed up one day and they threw hands would he? No. Batman's great but people need to realize he's fallible and not capable of just beating whoever he wants, whenever he wants. If he could do that his name would be "Perfect Man" or "I Never Lose Guy".
I've seen a crossover where Bruce Wayne believed Steve Rogers would eventually beat him through pure endurance, so I believe a simple brawl isn't the answer. However, Batman's tech could supply several answers against Cap.
In that same issue, they fought for 2 days and Batman got a lucky punch in and knocked him out. Of course, the outcome was picked by the fans.
90s issue of the Amalgram Universe. It wasn't really that good.
Hahah no.... bruce wayne yes ...but batman did beat him in the crossover but said it wasnt worth it caz there is no reason to fight
Actually the fight between batman and captain america(i assume your talking about him) happened and batman won
@@hoobadoobamaster8551 I'm actually referring to a WWII fight between the two. Bruce stopped the fight by calling Steve "Captain" as Bruce knew that it couldn't be anyone else.
@Goddamn 47 no im pretty sure batman barely won the crossover