I have had 23 years of cancer treatment - five operations including three heart procedures - I attach my medical bill below :- £0000.00 God bless the NHS .
@@hugoagogo2307 Poeple who have cancer work. I have a family member who is hard as nails when it comes to working whilst having cancer. Various surgical procedures and therapy treatments. He also competes in amatuer sports for charity. Yea not everyone is able to do those things whilst they're sick but you can't just take it someone don't work. Back under the bridge troll!
@@charlottejohnson5412 Think you Were Missing the point entirely (woosh) "£0000.00 God bless the NHS " the only way this is possible is if you do not work and have never payed National Insurance THE NHS IS NOT FREE .Back under the bridge troll!
It applies risk factors like life insurance. Some people with important jobs get better insurance just because of their jobs aswell which is also capitalism crap I cant stand. But I'm British so I'm not 100%
@@TS-oz3ec 66% of the medical bankruptcy are insured americans....so youre fucked either way haha. Idiots would rather get 500 dollars deducted from their checks from insirance than pay a slight increase in taxes. Add on the deductibles copay and Americans pay way more than a slight tax increase to provide healthcare. Also the lay offs from the pandemic lefts millions uninsured. Thats what happens wgen you tie employment to jobs as well. Such a dumb system.
In Australia, i havent paid for check ups or help with infections etc for a long time. I had to have a brain scan a while back and it was like $50 or less. USA sounds mental and I don't get why people see it as a benefit not having free general for all and cheaper more serious stuff more alittle extra. Then again, USA minimum wage is like 3 times less than what we pay 14 years old, its all crazy
One of the most heartbreaking stories I ever heard was an American doctor. He explained that when he went into oncology he thought having to tell parents their child was going to die would be the lowest point he could reach. He said it wasn't even close. Turns out having to tell parents that their child doesn't need to die, but will because they can't afford treatment and don't have insurance is much worse. Then having to sit and watch them do the maths, if they sell everything they own and literally bankrupt themselves, how many extra days can they get.
If someone invented a cure for cancer, and it cost millions to produce, should a country tax the entire population to the point everyone can't afford food in order to pay that massive price in order to cure every cancer patient? Or would it make more sense to need to reduce the cost before it's financially viable to give it to everyone? One day that treatment they couldn't afford will be as cheap as aspirin is now. But it's not that cheap now, that's not a fact that can be changed by how much suffering an illness causes. It's something people have to understand. We're all born in this world as weak fleshy creatures who never know what could kill them. The idea a government can even have the power or ability to make nothing bad every happen to anyone like you seem to be implying they should do, is just not realistic.
@@ge2719 The cost of treatment does raise ethical questions about who you can afford to treat and health services do have a limit on how much they can spend on treatments. The age and future life expectancy of the patient does feed into this. Ideally you would treat everyone, but practically that may not be possible, however it is at least relatively fair for all. Arguably finding a cheap cure for cancer would be even more of an economic disaster, I've heard argued it would actually be the greatest disaster that could befall mankind. If everyone could be cured then the number of old people in the population would increase massively and the working population would be unable to support the huge increase in cost of care, leading to massive economic problems and shortages for everyone.
@@ge2719 What? I agreed with EVERYTHING until "We're all born..." onwards, I see what you got at now. That makes no sense, unless you're talking about specific technologies and treatments which rightfully cost their price, as the cost to produce and make them is very expensive.. And it doesn't account for the many, many other things that cost tens of thousands - or even thousands - while being something as simple as getting a doctor to look at your shoulder injury. Do you live in the US? Because only that would really make sense, for the fierce defense of a clearly unnecessarily-flawed medical system.
evidence? i had to deliver my own kid because the so called wonderful NHS refused us entry twice - then the paramedics came late and the nurses came very late - shocking system needs a complete overhaul.
@@James_36 Doesn't need an overhaul, it just needs funding. It's been lacking money for years now so it's no wonder it's struggling. I'm sure there are some parts of it that do need overhauling but we can't properly identify those until it has the money it needs to properly function
@@James_36 I don't think the hiring of Diversity Managers is making any real difference to the budget of the NHS. As far as I'm aware, a minority of NHS Trusts employ one Diversity & Inclusion Manager, and they earn between £30,000 and £50,000 each. Their role is also fairly broad, and research from Middlesex University shows promotion of 'inclusion' by NHS leaders increases both provision of care and organisational performance. What is putting a financial strain on the NHS however, is fragmentation. Successive legislation through both Labour and Conservative (and coalition) governments over the last 3 decades has split the NHS into regional units which have "commissioners" and "providers", forcing the NHS to behave more like a business and less like a public service. These regional so-called Clinical Commissioning Groups (CCGs) have the authority to decide which NHS services to pay for, and which organisations to pay to provide them - a choice which includes both NHS organisations, and third-party, for-profit healthcare corporations. NHS England, a QUANGO led by Simon Stevens tasked with 'optimising management' of the NHS, and has nothing to do provision of care, has promoted the implementation of Integrated Care Systems (ISCs) (previously known as Accountable Care Organisations), which puts funding decisions into the hands of management consultancy firms like Deloitte and Capita, who are tasked with increasing 'efficiency and sustainability', which they do by making allocations of funding for care provision on an actuarial basis, and contracting mostly American 'health systems support' companies who divert much of the NHS funding stream to private profits for third party providers. ISCs were legislated for in the Health and Social Care Act 2012, although presently their existence must be permitted by local authorities and regional NHS organisations, NHS England has proposed legislation which would make ISCs statutory bodies by April. It's true that the NHS needs more funding, but it also needs the implementation of an NHS Reinstatement Bill to re-centralise the funding pool, and stop money being thrown down the drain as you put it, into the coffers of private providers and management consultants, and to abolish the inherent profit motives of CCGs. I'm very sorry to hear that the NHS didn't provide you with the care you needed when you needed it, and I'm afraid I'm sure that your experience is not a unique one, however that isn't a failure of the original tenet of the NHS - providing care to everyone free at the point of delivery, but a failure of its subsequent corporatization. Edit: spelling correction.
@@SpareSomeChange8080 As someone from Romania who broke her leg multiple times and comes from a low income family, I can assure you that by having it funded through tax payer money, we save thousands of dollars in the long run. It is a lot cheaper and lowers the chance of having our Healthcare system turn into a business, like in America.
@@tormclean9657 I understand, and agree, but calling it "free" is a bit cheeky to all the tax payers that fund it. We have problems of people flying into our country, using our health care because they think "oh it doesn't matter, it's free" when it's actually us that's footing their bills.
@@fatherson5907 If you’re American, with quarter of a million dead, I’d sit down and keep quite. The nhs were also not responsible for deaths, policy was. Bonehead with a bonehead comment.
@@fatherson5907 Our NHS kill so many patients? Most of the covid deaths in the UK are due to old age people with immunodeficiency or those who are very sick. The level of healthcare in the UK is excellent and patients get treated well. Also respect those working on the front lines in the NHS, doctors, nurses, surgeons etc. working overtime to ensure everybody is safe. You just cant disrespect the NHS.
This is the kind of news I would like to read in the U.S. (Greetings from Italy🇮🇹, the child's family paid 0€ for this) : A seven-year-old child successfully operated at the Regina Margherita hospital of the City of Health in Turin waited for the transplant for 525 days in hospital, connected to an artificial heart. A real record with a happy ending after a year and a half lived thanks to an artificial heart Berlin Heart, the longest implantation time among the little 'heroes' of pediatric cardiac surgery at the Turin children's hospital. He waited for the transplant for 525 days in the hospital, connected to an artificial heart, a seven-year-old child successfully operated at the Regina Margherita hospital of the City of Health in Turin. A real record with a happy ending after a year and a half lived thanks to an artificial heart Berlin Heart, the longest implantation time among the little 'heroes' of pediatric cardiac surgery at the Turin children's hospital. The baby is fine and has already been discharged. Born in Morocco, in the summer of 2019 the boy began to suffer from symptoms of heart failure. With his mother he joins his father in Liguria and, after a short period of hospitalization in another pediatric hospital, he is transferred by helicopter to the Regina Margherita. Not even the time to enter the cardiac surgery ICU, directed by Dr. Sergio Michele Grassitelli, that his heart stops. Reanimated and subjected to Ecmo, the extra-corporeal circulation, a few days later an artificial Berlin Heart is implanted which keeps him alive and allows him to recover. The child begins to appreciate Italian cuisine, grows up, learns our language, under the watchful eyes of his father and mother, who in the meantime gives birth to a little brother. All this for 525 long days, all in hospital, some spent in the premises of Margaret Island, the space for the long-term care of patients of the Oncohematology directed by Professor Franca Fagioli. Then the heart transplant by the team of pediatric cardiac surgeons, headed by Dr. Carlo Pace Napoleone. A very fast recovery, the amazement of waking up without the artificial ventricle lying on the abdomen, connected to a control console that kept him alive but limited him in all actions. A few days of hospitalization among the pediatric cardiologists and the nurses of Dr. Gabriella Agnoletti, followed closely by Enrico Aidala, heart surgeon in charge of the Transplant Program, and in recent days the discharge.
@david nope its British history labour fuck things up the Tories get voted in to fix it get all the blame then once its fixed people vote labour back in to fuck it all again and then the Tories job is to fix it again. People fail to look at history and just vote labour because there dad told them to or they have a communist as Party leader
Funny thing is Americans will go to the mat arguing why they would pay billions in taxpayer dollars for their military but not for national health care.
Thing is, the US and the UK are the only two NATO countries that fund their militaries to the extent agreed. You benefit from US taxpayers funding their military because their military directly protects you.
@@baldieman64 I think you just strengthened the OP's point. You are defending military spending (which is absolutely fine) but the USA seems to have this opposition to free healthcare like it is some sort of crazy left wing idea. NHS in the UK is completely free at the point of use to anyone. I heard about the girl who died at Sandy Hook and the parents had an $80,000 bill for the ambulance that failed to resuscitate her, the family lost their home to pay the bill. This shouldn't be allowed to happen anywhere in the world, let a lone a country that considers itself the leaders of the free world. The healthcare system in America is not only a massive con but also not very good. Even a US thinktank labelled it the worst healthcare system in the developed world.
@@baldieman64 - What seems even crazier is the huge amount of debt the US has and yet spends vast amounts on its military, as a result infrastructure and a more structured health care system are way down the list of priorities- As someone who has paid into the U.K. health system through normal taxation and national insurance contributions, It feels reassuring that I wouldn’t have to sell my house if I became really ill.
@@baldieman64 The USA, UK, Greece and Poland fund NATO USA, Greece and UK above the 2% in order and Poland at 2%. No one benefits from the USA military, it's a myth that has been created by your political parties, they have a laws that USA spent over $700 billion on the military this year. USA government pays more in tax payers cash to USA healthcare than the UK government does for the whole of the NHS. The USA government can afford to spend on the military, a National Healthcare system and, as other countries do, force the pharmaceutical companies to charge less, and no USA pharmaceutical companies don't invest more into research, it mainly goes to shareholders, a USA study found UK pharmaceutical companies fund more research into drugs etc.
@@declanferguson1040 my red passport says otherwise, so does my birth certificate. And I’ll make sure I produce more little brown kids too populate Britain.
Why, me and my wife had a miscarriage, 8 hours bleeding in a and e before being seen,Had to wait 6 months for a councillors, had to go private to support my wife as she had a breakdown with no help from nhs. Had a weird blip on my check up, Had to wait 7 months for a hospital ecg. Two week doctors appointments and bankrupting the country and so so inefficient. And to top it off it ain’t free I pay £396.98 a month in NI contributions. We are literally paying for a over bloated, inefficient government run car crash. Your proud that you can’t see the position of how it can’t and isn’t sustainable anymore good on you
@@sameaulahad2824 I simpily missed out the question mark, it wasn't intended to be construed like that "You aren't?" as in you already aren't proud. Wtf is that response.
@@declanferguson1040 With that context your comment is understandable. But without it, it makes it seem like you're saying he's not British because of his "foreign" name.
That last young man's comment was spot on... "people need to be educated on the issue but they just don't want to be". Voluntary ignorance is no way to go through life people...🤔
@@howler6490 Bruh don't just assume Americans are uneducated. We're preoccupied. The medical field doesn't have a secure enough leash on it so they just rack up the price to what they want. People know this. Nothing US citizens can do but vote, and we're divided by the idea of the far left, and right, but the scheme there is to have us all preoccupied by fighting amongst each other. I lean more conservative and right, but there is always a need for some government control. Even in a capitalistic society. No one is being "dumbed down". It's the fact that were too busy arguing with each other about two political sides that in the end want a similar goal, and both parties know it.
imagine having to pay a bill for the firetruck to come to your house to put out a fire or getting a bill from the police because they stopped someone robbing you. In the rest of the developed world healthcare is seen as an essential service that saves lives just like the police or fire service.
Its more akin to your house being on fire and the firemen refusing to put it out and rescue anyone until the Insurance provider approved the measures to be used based on your policy. "Sorry sir but your insurance policy only covers for one of your children to be pulled from the inferno."
I come from an north african " 3rd world country " and we have free health care coverd by national policy , my brother was born with a disease and couldnt eat properly and needed an operation , a really important long one , he did it at the age of 3 years old , and it cost a symbolic price of a 0.25$ admission fees of the hospital. it is a shame for a country like the US to have a health care system that prioritize money over the life of its citizen, to have people die because they cant afford insulin is something to be ashamed of.
Healthcare in the UK isn’t free. They actually pay more for healthcare per year in taxes. It’s just automatically deducted from their paychecks so they don’t see it. They pay that if they are sick or not.
Breaking Bad in Germany: Chemistry teacher Walter White feels unwell, goes to the Doctor, they discover he has Cancer. Treatment starts next week end of story.
@@ClodiusP there 's no death penalty in Germany, France or The UK. In fact most of the West has got rid of it. So if he is getting executed anywhere, its in the US.
I have a friend that goes to Mexico every once and a while because he has braces and he got them there, I never understood why he would get them their in the first place, now I know
I've had friends tell me about that the care in Mexico is typically substandard. I knew someone whose broken leg was cast incorrectly and had to have it rebroken and set as a result. Don't be fooled, everyone is eligible for insurance here, but you have to apply for it. Nothing is free, everything had a cost whether it be by taxpayers or private insurance through employers.
Plus we pay half of what they do and we have one if not the best healthcare in the world (proven by many studies). America pays the most out of any developed nation and still has worse quality of care than most of Western Europe.
Obviously there is a bit more tax but then there’s no insurance to pay for so really your probably spending less and even if u don’t need the quacks u could be helping someone else get treatment
Your right, nothing is ever free. But it’s a great system. Seems like Americans would rather be ripped of . 5000 dollars for having a collarbone looked at. That is just disgusting.
I live in the UK. My healthcare taxes are automatically deducted from my payment. Don't know how much, don't really care because i don't really feel it. In January 2021 I've had a pretty bad case of pneumonia because of COVID. I've been in hospital for about 5 days, with all medicine, food and all afferent medical care included. I've got out of the hospital without having to pay one single penny. Now that's real health care! ❤️NHS❤️
I'm in Australia and I'm happy to pay a small amount extra in my taxes knowing that the person down the road who i don't know will get the help they need. You judge a society not on how many nuclear bombs they have but how well it treats its most vulnerable.
Not only the most vulnerable but for everyday mishaps, for example a child hurt at a playground or someone tripping and getting injured on their journey to work. A wealthy nation like the USA with no universal health care is bonkers.
That’s why your country couldn’t win a war or protect yourself that’s why America has to protect you . Your soft , people die that’s life my mom smoked for years and developed cancer and died I love my mom but why should someone have to pay for her bad choices . As Americans it’s understood we hate taxes so for that reason hell no to welfare make good choices and good things happen . Life is meant to end death is not a bad thing it’s a part of life you coward
I just want to commend you on saying how you do pay taxes for your “free” services. Many Europeans neglect that bit of information and simply say their visits are free. The cost of Healthcare is pretty much the same around the world, only difference is how we choose to pay for it. Collectively or Individually. Cost for Healthcare alone in the UK is roughly $7k/yr per person (taxes). It definitely is not free.
Millions of Americans over the years have gone bankrupt due to ill health costs - that has never happened in the UK - simples in my mind NHS wins hands down.
Once a family is ruined it can take generations to recover and they become a burden on society in any number of ways. If knock backs are shared the comeback is quick and that burden on society might never happen. Its the principal behind a welfare state and social security. It's always threatened by the right wing ethos of survival of the fittest and every man for himself supported by those who reckon bad things will never happen to them or those that actually struggled through without anyone helping them.
@@redf7209 Survival of the fittest does not fit into modern society , neither does everyone having a gun. America has not moved on since the wild west days to enough degree. The sad thing is this Covid19 might change their minds, if not they may have to wait till the next plague. Shared disaster redemption/epiphany is better than everyone for themselves!
@@1jackct which are talking about? The NHS of the UK per capita is in fact cheaper to run then the US health system. Sure sometimes you are put on a list for treatment but if urgent you are treated immediately. Thats when there isnt some plague of course.
@@luanunes14 You should see some of America. We have a U.S. House of Representative member who says the Rothschilds have a space jew laser and people are defending her
The main problem in the US isn't necessarily directly this (although it certainly does encourage incredible selfishness). Rather, it's the effects of it. Pushing the responsibility to individuals, who within society have comparatively low socioeconomic power, allows big pharma to swindle and charge exorbitant prices. When the same corps are having to deal with governments, surprise surprise those prices come down considerably.
As someone from third world country, I wanna say we have almost free health care. For instance, my brother once had an operation for his broken legs. The only thing we paid was his medicine (pain meds). We didn't pay for the cost of operation since it was covered in the national health care policy.
Canadians took a poll to name the greatest Canadian of all time. It wasn't Wayne Gretzky or any other hockey player. It was Tommy Douglas, father of Canada's universal healthcare.
The I love the fact that the taxes I pay as National Insurance, helps me, helps others, and then forms the funds of my state pension. What a brilliant system.
@@neekBG3 and we here are lucky to have the best research institutions, best hospitals, best medical schools and highest level of medical innovation in the world, despite what the propaganda on these bias videos shows
@@fatherson5907 until you lose a job or dont have insurance and cant afford some treatment ahhhhh then you will feel the depths of the inequality and injustic of the system. When you feel it on your own skin. When you are refused basic treatment from people who take an oath to do no harm and system that is supposed to be about peoples health, then you will wake the F up. land of the free indeed, free to be ripped off .
As you can see, American people WANT change. We know how ridiculous this is, we’ll never win against big pharmaceutical, insurance companies, and the politicians WE vote in
the problem is that there's too many people that don't CARE about it. The amount of people who know how deep this goes is somewhat low and are considered conspiracy theorists. The vote of those people isn’t enough to take out the bad politicians. On the other side, all politicians do is lie, they make promises of change and the only thing they change is how much more money they put in each other's pockets. They won't tell you how bad it is either because if they do then they'll be losing money.
As a native American living in the UK since the age of 14 the NHS in the UK is fantastic , I broke my leg when young my mother who's a doctor phoned for an ambulance it came I went into hospital well looked after great staff then home in a cast all free fantastic .
@@mystic9806 Oh dear! He said quite clearly that he’s lived in the UK from the age of 14. Native American is his heritage/ethnicity. Believe it of not, there are many people around the world who have moved to another country. The UK has about 100k immigrants who were born in the USA. They’re still American by birth even if they’ve become British nationals. In the same way, Brits who’ve moved to the USA and become US citizens are still British by birth. It’s quite simple, really.
When I was 6 I fell out of bed in Greece and broke my collar bone. My parents took me to the hospital, Got it all sorted. 13 Euros. My nan still lives in Greece, She recently had cataract surgery, The doctor drove from Athens, Picked her up in his own car to the hospital in Athens, Fixed her up, she stayed in a few days to make sure all was good, Drove her home. 300 Euros. Now bear in mind, A taxi from Athens airport to her village costs around 150euros.
Well I am from India and I once had a muscle tear in mu foot and the funny thing about it that my medicines only cost around 350 Ruppes or like 3 dollars or something like that
Prescriptions are no longer free. A large number of people in the UK are now been prescribed antidepressants so they are been charged at least £9.50 a month. Coincidence? Could easily be a placebo/sugar tablet they are been sold. Big pharma are cleaning up. Both party's are collaborating to make these companies richer. If Labour promised to return to free medical prescriptions they would probably get back into power. But nobody is interested in that.
Many Americans argue that they don't want to pay for other people's health care, nor indeed other people paying for theirs. I would argue back that their contributions to their health care provider is never ring-fenced for their exclusive use. In fact, insurance companies operate in the same way as the NHS, with the exception that they're profit driven. So, if you're American, think about the board of directors of your health insurance company, and how many long haul vacations they take every year, and the private schools they send their children to, and who's paying for it all.
people would have had and still do have the same opinion but we have had the NHS here 72 years now so i guess some attitudes have changed but in reality, one cannot please everyone, all of the time.
Yep. I’ve gotten into countless arguments over this, and the answer every time is ‘I don’t want to be paying for someone else’s healthcare’, and they can’t possibly see past that to understand the benefits of socialised healthcare.
If you are Paying Health care insurance you are already Paying for some elses Health care where do People think the money comes from to pay for the Procedures/Consultation it comes from the insurance premiums people pay into the company
No need for a thanks, me a UK tax payer, help pay for your problems. This is something it is NOT free. It costs tax payers to keep the NHS. It is worth every penny.
I lived in the USA for 12 years in the 1980’s My daughter cost 5000 when she was born. I made sure I got jobs with health insurance but it never covered everything. We are lucky to have the NHS.
@Bryan Bradley it’s not a necessary mate at all. I don’t know what obsession American have with guns buts it’s fucking weird. Like America has 400+ mass shootings... do you not see a problem with that.
I went years without insurance and finally got a plan through my new job (at a good company) so I went for a checkup. Basic checkup where the doc looks at your tongue, listens to your heartbeat and does that thing where they tap the little mallet on your knees. Got a bill a month later for almost $300. I called the office and said I think there is a mistake-did my insurance info not go through? Oh yes, they said. You’re insurance covered $115! 😐 total for the visit was $408, $320 of which was the base office visit fee. Robbery.
Sounds like the doctor's office was "out of network" for your insurance. An office visit co-pay for a typical visit should be in the range of $20 to $40, depending on your plan. It's imporant to check to make sure that your doctor is in-network for your specific plan, as they all vary.
@@StochasticUniverse no, I found this dr on my insurance portal! My point is, medical costs are ridiculously high, insurance coverage or no coverage. No professional has any business charging $300+ for a 20 min consultation.
I "walked away" 2 decades ago from a bill for four days in the hospital, with surgery/etc. That was for over $ 40,000 Dollars. Couldn't pay it even if I wanted to. No job, no prospects thereof either. Took me two years of Legal hassle to get them to take it as a tax loss. Two years! Of them threatening me to take me to court! I wish they had in the first 6 months after my stay. Could have saved so much time. And no, I didn't qualify for Medicaid/Medicare either... There were no Social programs to fall back on. The good news is I hear that the wealthy rarely pay their healthcare bills either. But they do pay their Lawyers!
@@miamidolphinsfan It’s also to do with the American attitude, a lot of Americans especially Republicans hate the idea of socialised healthcare because they feel that they are paying for other people instead of themselves.
@@TheMikeskillz but that's how the police, fire public education, roads, etc all work, but something this fundamental LOL idiots. By the way if you're young & healthy you are paying for older patients at your Health Insurance company...so why not have guaranteed healthcare for all ? It's makes for a stronger, & healthier populace...it's just stupidity & brainwashing by the healthcare industry to keep you from having what every other nation offers.
in the USA: Oh dear i broke my finger, better take out a 5,000 dollar loan in the UK: pop to A&E, wait up to four hours and get it snapped back into place. Pay maybe £10 ($17) for pain meds for a month
It's not just health care we get, it's child care, holidays, education .. I couldn't believe that most Americans don't get paid holidays or child care..
@@StochasticUniverse I'm truly amazed at how much it costs the American people to live.. 10 days is nothing..if you have children most of that will be taken with sick days.... Out of curiousity, how many weeks/months a year are your political members given leave ? I'd wager it's alot more than 10 days..
I live in México and my mom had breast cancer like 4 years ago and it was all paid by the medical insurance (which cost like 200 dollars per year if not free) now she's cancer free and it's still getting all her follow up and even had the reconstruction whitout extra charge or anything
@David Gray cloud I'am not arguing with you I agree with the NHS system. If you read my first text it says that the NHS system is the right one to have. Theres nothing humanitarian about a poor man dying because he can't pay to save his life. You are right.
The fact is that the NHS benefits massively from the development of drugs and procedures developed in American labs and hospitals. Neither system is perfect and the consequences of waiting times in the UK mean that the US has significantly better outcome than the UK for cardiovascular disease and for many common cancers.
@David Gray cloud "The United States accounted for 42% of prescription drug spending and 40% of the total GDP among innovator countries and was responsible for the development of 43.7% of new molecular entities" An NME is; a drug that does not contain an active moiety previously approved by the Food and Drug Administration. The US also developed the first oral polio vaccine, the first vaccines for measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox, meningitis, pneumonia, smallpox, hepatitis A and Lymes disease. HIV was identified in the US, the Human Genome Project was run from the US and US scientists discovered how to use human skin cells to create embryonic stem cells. The list of US surgical developments is also long. FWIW, I'm not even American.
Sometimes I think we take our NHS for granted, it's so normal for health are to be free I can't even imagine paying thousands to get something looked at or fixed
@TheShadowblade still better than paying full, also that’s probably less than what they’d pay in a year (with paying insurance and the times when you get injured and meds), sorry for coming off mean and I just reread your comment of living in the uk, so ima change the you to they.
Im not sure youve understood where she was coming from, she's basically saying people like Trump only exist to perpetuate this shitty situation and keep the money rolling in.
Just like that lady my family also travels to 🇲🇽 just to go to the hospital, even with the cost of a plane ticket you end up paying waaay less than in America.
I honestly can’t get my head around paying at all, yes it comes out in tax, so I don’t see it but I actually feel good to pay into something that helps save the lives of 1000’s of people per day and that is worth more than momey
@@williebauld1007 that's the thing, a lot of us Americans (not me, my mom is actually a good person) are taught to be selfish: "rugged individualism" or some PC branding that absolute psychopaths popularized. Apparently being kind to others is beta or bluepilled or some fucking bullshit, or you're a "sucker", there's no sense of community here anymore, which is why there's so many psycho cops and people who are homeless are demonized for being too poor to afford a home or too mentally ill to hold down a job... ironic considering how many Americans are devout "Christians" too (about as "Christian" as Trump more like).
Healthcare in the UK isn’t free. They actually pay more for healthcare per year in taxes. It’s just automatically deducted from their paychecks so they don’t see it. They pay that if they are sick or not.
My cousin lives in Puerto Rico and had to get braces. It would've cost her 5,000 dollars. She came to the Dominican Republic, and flight, acommodation, transportation, the braces she needed and every other cost set her back only 1,000 dollars total. USA medical costs are insane!
Puerto Rico isn't the United States, not exactly. There an American territory. The primary reason that American medical expenses are so high is because of medical associations, private companies that run medical associations and Medical Care. They have a limit on how many people can become doctors and all that crap. where Great Britain / the UK wants as many as they can get
I'm American and I'm not hurt because I agree that our healthcare system is awful. People in a lot of European countries are automatically covered by health insurance but a large proportion of the population here believe that people need to work and save up to receive their own insurance (which only benefits the rich). It's pathetic
@@fatherson5907 You clearly don't know, so I'll try to explain it to you. I will start by asking you a question. What do doctors in the Uk do differently that doctors in the US do or don't do? Nothing and if there is a difference, it's minimal. Why do you think braces are free in the Uk and not in the US. Even if they aren't free do you really think they should cost $5,000 after insurance. The healthcare system in the US is messed up and if you can't see that, then you're a dumba*s and you clearly learned nothing from watching the video
@@michaelbaker5501 doctor quality in the Uk is far lower, and the hospital quality is inferior. There’s no such thing as free healthcare. Only complete idiots like you believe that nonsense.
@@fatherson5907 The first two things you said are not true. The Uk is home to some of the best schools in the world. I've never been (and I doubt you have) to a hospital in the Uk so I can't speak to the part about hospital quality. Also, I never said that healthcare is free. I understand that in the Uk the "free" healthcare comes from the taxes their citizens pay. If the US would spend it's money wiser and use our tax dollars on things we actually need then we could have. You have this attitude because you've never been on the other side of the argument. Suppose you were in a car accident and the person who hit you ran. You would now have to foot a bill of probably over 10,000. I don't know about you, but the average American doesn't have $10,000 to spend on medical bills and they would likely have to file medical bankruptcy. You clearly don't know what you're talking about so please do your research before starting an argument
i dont wanna brag, but i broke my arm like 2 months ago, and everything from the x-ray to the cast and checkups cost 5$... for the hospital parking... god bless universal healthcare.
I suppose it would get pretty boring asking the same question with the same answer each time. Fix my leg, free. Cure my cancer, free. Have a baby, free. Lose your job, your savings and have no assets and don't pay a single penny in tax, It's free. Are you a living human being not from the UK, it's free.
@@Jack-uy7ie actually I know someone who had a liver transplant and he is an alcoholic. Granted that he has been trying to quit and his family is keeping and eye on him not to drink but the reason for the transplant was damage caused by alcoholism.
Proud to be an Englishman and being british . I love our American counterparts I feel sorry for their bills bless them🏴🏴🏴🏴🇬🇧❤️🇺🇸
When i was 39 i had a broken ankle that had to be pinned n plated followed 6months later by a hip replacement. Im lucky to be British, as i dread to think what would of happened to me in the US.
I knew of a man who contracted cancer, and they managed to save his life, but it bankrupted him, and they essentially saved that mans life just to screw him for funds. He said it would have been more himane to let him die from cancer rather than face the reat of his (saved) life in destitution and homeless.
My friend in America has been in hospital for just a couple of days and she's already facing a bill of thousands of dollars as if the threat of cancer isn't enough to worry about. I asked her if she can't afford to pay will they put back the bad bits they've already had to cut out of her and she said yeah probably! What part of Land of the free is actually being referred to in the National Anthem?
I'm sorry but as a european I find this hillarious. "The insurance company covered big part of the 5k bill. I have REALLY good insurance. But I still had to pay nearly 3k out of my pocket." lol what? That doesn't sound like a "REALLY good insurance" to me. I feel sorry for you guys..
And you give over half of your small paycheck to a corrupt government and get third world garbage in return. And you peasants are celebrating your “free” healthcare. Rooting for Putin.
When I see Americans standing at their front doors clapping and banging saucepans in thanks to their health care system and not just for those who work in it, then I'll believe they have a better set up. We don't kid ourselves that the NHS is in anyway perfect, but at least it puts people before profit. And, by the way, if you want private care you can still get that in the Uk.
Geordie boy No. You are right - but I'm not always convinced that we get best value or that our money is spent wisely. Our local hospital spent £150,000 on some peculiar statues to go in their fancy new foyer (along with a piano) yet were begging for the public to help pay for a new MRI suite.
weird. Im romanian and i live in the UK for almost 10 years now. Apart from the cost of property I really dont find UK to be expensive at all, well maybe apart from London. I mean I worked on minimum wage for quite a while and I still managed to pay my rent and bills, have a decent lifestyle, buy a car and afford to go on couple of holidays each year. For the thats enough to say that UK has a great life quality and Im grateful for it. The only thing that is expensive if the price of property to be honest
"13% of each worker's wages up to a ceiling earnings level beyond which no more is paid. So if someone is earning the equivalent of US$30000, they pay about $330 a month of National Insurance." 13% of my wages per month is somewhere near 450 usd, that means id pay somewhere around 5k a year on health insurance to the NHS. i havent been to the doctor or needed any dental work or any other remotely large ticket item in like 10 years. that means i would have paid 50k over the last 10 years for healthcare that i get no control or say over. you are actually getting massively ripped off by a communist policy and most of you havent even bothered to work out the math on it.
I’ve had five operations and multiple MRI’s, scans, ultrasounds, X-rays, blood and urine tests and more doctor visits than I could count over the last two years and haven’t paid a cent here in Australia.
@@LibShitted "13% of each worker's wages up to a ceiling earnings level beyond which no more is paid. So if someone is earning the equivalent of US$30000, they pay about $330 a month of National Insurance." 13% of my wages per month is somewhere near 450 usd, that means id pay somewhere around 5k a year on health insurance to the NHS. i havent been to the doctor or needed any dental work or any other remotely large ticket item in like 10 years. that means i would have paid 50k over the last 10 years for healthcare that i get no control or say over. i am so fucking glad i live in the united states. but hey, maybe the united states will remember that land of the free comment when china comes knocking eh?
@@jjjj-cy3vz Except china wont come knocking because half the shit you sell is made in china. Its kind of like if mexico started a war with you despite the fact its the country you get all the crack you smoke from
I remember the first time an American told me they didn't have free health care and relied on insurance - I was absolutely gobsmacked. Especially when they told me that not everyone had insurance. I just couldn't believe it.
Most Americans have plans either through their parents or through work. Therefore if you lose your job you lose your healthcare. After a certain age you are taken off your parents plan if they haven't done it themselves already
As a Canadian, I am totally amazed that the USA has such expensive health care. I have 2 kids, one of whom had to be in intensive care for 2 months immediately after birth. There was no invoice. It was all covered. I separated my shoulder playing hockey - doctor exam, maybe x-rays (don't remember 15 yrs ago). Never cost me a cent. As to the common American assertion that taxes would have to go up to cover it: Your politicians and government accountants are doing a bad job for you. Marginal tax rates are very comparable in Canada and the US. Kick your politicians in the ass and MAKE them get you decent health care. Join the civilised world.
It baffles me that America doesn't take a look north of their border. I had cancer and with all the procedures and treatments done, there was no bill. If I were living in the States I'm certain I would have died.
We have more medical breakthroughs, it might be expensive but we have better doctors. Name the last medical breakthrough that didn’t come from America. Believe me it’s very few and far between. I do believe we need improvement but what the socialist countries have isn’t the answer!
@@jordanhg5221 Yes....lots of medical breakthroughs, yet when you said that, I automatically thought of Dr. Banting and Best from the University of Toronto and how many millions of people would have died if it weren't for their insulin studies. I also want to mention that I'm a retired Registered Nurse who attended a job fair in my final year of training. There were always lots of reps from American hospitals wanting Canadian RNs. Word had it that we were better trained although I can't verify it was true. Please don't misunderstand my response.....there's so much good in America and I have family and friends there. I'm not dissing the States.
Char Canuck Canada has invented and been part of many significant medical breakthroughs. And go to any hospital in Detroit and see how many Canadian nurses they have. Education and training are far better.
For the sake of giving a percentage from my salary each month, if it delivers to my healthcare and for those in the community then I am pleased to give it as my contribution. Universal care is the best way in a civilised society.
I'm a medical biller of a Texan doctor and I can confirm they all saying nothing but facts. Health care in USA is expensive af especially dental and ophthalmological
When I lived in Italy I had the rheumatoid arthritis in one of my heels for 10 years. I went to the hospital so many times to be checked till I managed somehow to walk again normally. I spent 0 euros. Now I live in London (UK) and I had small problems like tonsillitis, where I just spent £10 for the prescription. But if I had major problems, I would not spend any penny. God bless the European health service, so glad I do not live in the US.
as an american i also feel bad for you. "13% of each worker's wages up to a ceiling earnings level beyond which no more is paid. So if someone is earning the equivalent of US$30000, they pay about $330 a month of National Insurance." 13% of my wages per month is somewhere near 450 usd, that means id pay somewhere around 5k a year on health insurance to the NHS. i havent been to the doctor or needed any dental work or any other remotely large ticket item in like 10 years. that means i would have paid 50k over the last 10 years for healthcare that i get no control or say over. i am so fucking glad i live in the united states.
@@KPK75772 it doesnt help others. holding people accountable is what helps them. the NHS only results in healthcare that is lower quality and, in the end, more expensive as the message you replied to explained with simple math. what you did as a reply was to mention no facts at all and instead attack me as a person because you lack a cogent argument. believe me giacomo, of the two of us it is not i that is stupid.
@@KPK75772 lol? did you really just say your quality is the same? 11 of the worlds top 20 hospitals are in the united states...... that means 55% of the worlds best hospitals are in my country, but you think that your expensive socialist healthcare is better? by what metric? your feelings? lol dont be ridiculous dude. people fly to the united states from all over the world to receive medical care here. its becoming more and more obvious that you know nothing on this subject besides what your tv tells you.
@Cassettes/Records Analog/Digital Well, in the US you pay your taxes plus an extra for the healthcare. I paid my taxes in Italy and happy to pay when I know it goes also for the free healthcare.
@@KPK75772 you obviously dont know how this works lol. we are a capitalist nation. 99% of the population are "employees" and any of them that pay for private insurance (remember its cheaper for me to have 2 PPO's than pay for the "free" NHS healthcare) can walk in there and receive the best treatment on planet earth instantly for nothing out of pocket or a very very small co-pay. meanwhile you pay more to see worse doctors and youll have a line you have to wait in to see them. yea your healthcare sounds great. next youll tell me that europe has a better education system because thats what your overlords told you, even though on average more than 20% of europeans dont receive a highschool education. compared to like 8% in the united states and just like with hospitals we have more famous colleges and institutes in the united states than any other individual country on earth. you are fed lies by your socialist government to make you believe that their ineffective policies are working when they just fucking dont. europe is also the place where certain foods are banned because they are unhealthy but yet in europe you have double the smoking rate the united states does. yea sounds fucking fantastic.
Yeah, it’s free. We pay about 1/3 of salary in tax. I have had 2 broken legs and a spine op. World class work. 2 my wife had two babies. Same price. Free. Amazing system. Oh, Brits invented capitalism - Adam Smith We do the best of both.
I recently retired as a cop after 30years. For my final decade I was paying over £4k per annum National Insurance. I'm now a part time school bus driver and because my salary is a fraction of what it was, and contributions are related to salary, I now pay less than £2 per month.
The nhs works two ways of you feel ill and get an early diagnosis your treatment cheaper and more effective. Which means that no worries about cost means recovery is better. That means you can return to work quicker and start contribute to the system.
My leg and arm cost over $250,000 to fix. Most (not all) was covered by insurance. I had to pay the $2,000 ambulance fee myself. Only part of the home health care was covered. As soon as I spent my 15 sessions (combined) for the year for physical and occupational therapy, I was screwed. This does not include the durable medical equipment (over $12,000 for things like wheelchairs, walkers, etc.) which also was out-of-pocket expenses not covered by my husband’s work insurance. Four years later, and my leg is crooked, not the same length as the other one, I still can’t walk up or down stairs normally, I still have a limp, I still don’t have full range of motion in my wrist or knee, I still have an extra bone fragment grating against the others in my wrist, my nose is still broken, etc. The accident was not my fault. Unless someone can show me proof as to why socialist medicine is so bad, I won’t believe it is worse than all this.
Steampunkkids That's horrific and tragic for you. Why do you put up with this crap? "Socialist medicine" makes a wonderful concept sound negative. I think access to healthcare is a basic human right and its your form of capitalism that has somehow convinced Americans that even though you pay taxes, healthcare isn't something that your taxes should go towards.
@@hansiesma16 I agree that it is a travesty that Americans have been brain-washed to believe that socialized healthcare is not a basic human right. We also, apparently, don’t believe safe-drinking water is a basic human right either. It really is sad. But, we are brain-washed to be afraid of socialized medicine from birth. I’d love to move to a country with socialized medicine. I just can’t afford to move my family during a pandemic. Where do you think would be better for me?
A couple of years ago in the uk I had a suspected triple a, I got a double crewed ambulance and a fast response paramedic, straight into resus with everyone there plus an OR and surgical team on standby, turned out I had an infection and a previously unknown cystic structure, investigation into the cystic structure involved a CT scan and a number of case conferences with a whole bunch of consultant surgeons when the decision was that it was benign and there was no clinical reason to operate, total cost was £30 for a three month pre pay prescription certificate for all my medicines as the infection by the time it triggered pain had caused some inflammation and ongoing pain
Steven Bowers: Wow, impressive, thanks for sharing. And here, A group of jealous Americans will contradict you and make all kinds of argument on why that doesn't work. LOL, LOL, LOL,
@@12567NoYouCannot what's amazing is how many people in America don't realise that they pay more for public health per person than the UK does on public healthcare, the total spend for both public and private healthcare in the UK is just under 10% of GDP, the USA spends just under 18% of GDP on public and private healthcare
Here is the grim reality. 40000+ US citizens die needlessly because they have no health insurance. Want a smile? Canada has an NHS type of set up, maybe they are considered as polite communists/socialists!😁
I went to the E.R once when I was little because I swallowed a lego and it got lodged in my throat. On the car ride there it hurt to breathe or swallow. We waited for almost an hour in a room to get looked at, and I got 1 X-ray to see where the lego was. It wasn't in my throat anymore and we were snet home with a 'good luck, just poop it out ig lol' And it cost us a few hundred dollars, just for that.
X-ray staff and machinery isn't free to run.. why not let those who want to pay for insurance do so and those who prefer to risk having to pay for things only if anything goes wrong pay the price if they gamble wrong.
@@juliapigworthy because people can't choose the risk if they can't pay for insurance, and even if you DO then you still have to pay a good portion out of pocket. It's less expensive and saves more lives overall to use universal healthcare
Flipping heck that's alot money, I'm just glad I'm from and still in Blighty 🇬🇧 as I've heard from acquaintances in the 🇺🇸 who pay a ridiculous amount of money just for their medications and only have one medical condition (unlike myself with well over a dozen long term degenerative conditions/ diseases) and strongly suspect if it were not for the NHS I'd provably of have passed decades ago. All of us across our world ought to be entitled to free health care
@@user-qg1jb8rw8e I agree. It's ridiculous really. I take ONE medication daily to help control my ADHD and just 30 days worth is nearly $300 (~212 GBD) without insurance! Luckily we have a good doctor, my mom is smart, and we have decent insurance that I'm still covered by, so we aren't charged for that medication. But even with insurance just basic healthcare is so expensive! It's ridiculous how much money my parents have had to spend just for orthodontics and dentistry. And yet my dad is STILL against universal healthcare because he thinks its impossible and will practically 'enslave' taxpayers...
when i went to florida and somthing happened to my sister and I which we had to go to the Drs for. it cost us $400-1000 each. Im from the UK so this was crazy
Yeah I'm Canadian and have had a lot of health problems in the past. I remember once I had to get an ultrasound and my doctor spent like, 10 minutes apologising to me because it wasn't covered by insurance and we had to pay about $100 for it. Even then, he tried his hardest to let us know every option we could take that wouldn't cost us a cent. It just baffles me how much I'd have to pay for this stuff if I lived in the states.
I live in Germany, used to live in Canada. I also laugh inside when a doc apologises for suggesting something not covered. It's usually not more than 100€ 🤣
I couldn’t afford a bottle of expensive iron pills $86 after I almost died - I needed my iron levels up. Doctor gave me 3 sample packs that would last 3 months for free so I didn’t have to buy them at all lol
I have Cystic Fibrosis and a genetic heart defect. I spent my first birthday and Christmas in hospital and spend about 2-3 months in hospital every year due to my conditions. I'm 29 now and will need a lung transplant soon. I can't work but get my prescriptions (which there are a lot of) thankfully free. If I was American I don't think I would have seen my second birthday. Thanks NHS. ❤️
When I broke my collarbone I went to the hospital where they decided it might grow back by itself, so I got 11 days sick leave with no loss in salary. When I returned to the hospital, they decided an operation was needed after all. I spent in total three nights before and after the surgery, and was sent home (all travel expences to and from already payed to my private bankaccount, ofcourse) where I had 21 days of sick leave, payed. During the surgery they put in a steel bar and screws, that had to be removed later, meaning another surgery and two nights at the hospital. Not to mention when I had a heart attack, was picked up by ambulance w/doc and nurse, sent via chopper w/new doc and nurse and pilots, landed on the hospital helipad, wheeled straight in to the OR where the team was scrubbed and ready to go. Or the birth of my two children. Or the one year payed paternity leave I got when my daughter was born, as well as when my son came two years later. *Total cost: 0,-* *Taxes: Way less than I would pay in medical insurance alone in the US.* "Healtcare for all" is no more socialism than a bridge or tunnel. "Healtcare for all" is however a given in any civilized society. I don't write this to gloat, but because I have dear friends and family living in America. I wish for them the same freedom and opportunities that I have. To worry if your kids will be taken care of by health professionals if anything should happen, no matter your financial situation at the time, is a burden no father or mother should have to carry. PS: Last week I received a letter from the health dep, saying I had payed more than USD 260,- in different medical supplies and prescription drugs this year, and that the amount above USD 260,- had been returned to my account. They also provided me with a card that I simply show at any pharmacy or at the doctors office for the rest of the year, to get my medication or treatment for free. Ordinarily I receive the card by february or march, but what can I say, it's been a good year.
I’m an American living in South Korea that just had to go through a good friend being hospitalized for what we thought could be appendicitis. An ambulance call (she couldn’t walk without severe pain), consultation, multiple blood tests, X-Rays and 3D X-rays, a COVID test, and eventual hospitalization for one day and night, along with antibiotics, painkillers, and hydration via IV drip, all came out to $176. Meanwhile my family back home continues to pay off the debt of a critical surgery my father had *five years ago*. After declaring bankruptcy on our house, of course…
Why didn’t your father have insurance? It sounds like he is deeply irresponsible and didnt plan properly for emergencies. It’s a shame that you have such irresponsible parents.
@@fatherson5907 the NHS can absolutely provide an adequate level of of essential care, if not better than private healthcare. where private thrives is the ability to have more flexibility and lower waiting times for non-essential treatment, however if you are willing to wait a bit then the NHS is absolutely fine. it’s a matter of convenience, as the quality of actual healthcare (non-essential) is similar.
>"My broken collar bone cost $5000" >"But I've got good insurance, it covered most of that" >"My share was just under $3000" *confused Jackie Chan face*
@@Katie-B My friend in America is currently facing a potential cancer scare and she's more worried about the cost of the treatment than the treatment itself!
I live in Ontario Canada, a few years ago my Wife had bowel Cancer and it was successfully operated on, COST!!! nothing no bill the only thing I had to pay for was the Hospital parking lot to pick her up.
I know you’re not complaining but I easily paid $500 in parking going to the hospital in my sons first year. Feel very grateful he got great care for free here in Ontario. Also not complaining. Thrilled we only pay parking!
How much does everyone pay in national insurance contributions over a lifetime even if they never use a hospital? Maybe they'd rather fund their own personal health insurance or take the risk of paying nothing and having to stump up more if anything happens while uninsured. By all means make health insurance compulsory just like it is to travel abroad, but state controlled health services should be one option among many other competing insurance options, not a state-controlled monopoly with compulsory payments.
@@juliapigworthy it doesn't get split out on our taxes so hard to say how much one would pay over their life time. It's one of a few services that our provincial taxes pay for. It's strange to me you feel so strongly about always having a choice in policy. We have a policy that covers everything but drugs, vision, dental and we can buy coverage for those. So we don't question why there is no private option. This seems to be a very American thing. Based on conversations I've had with Brits, Swedes, Germans, Australians and others, nobody with a public health system is pining for more choice. My Dad got a double lung transplant 5 years ago. He was on the wait list for only 10 days. Cost to him was $0. New lungs work great. Doctors and nurses were great. His follow-up care is excellent even five years on. We're not asking ourselves "If only there was another option?"
@@mattym8 I'm British and my mum has benefitted from NHS treatment after a stroke years ago. I don't lament the NHS itself, rather I lament that it's a compulsory payment rather than having competition to drive standards higher and prices lower. Ditto for pensions, we should be able to use the state offering, or opt for a private fund.
@@juliapigworthy that’s the same argument people make for education. Why should I pay for public education when I go to a private school? Do you want to live in an educated society where economic mobility is bad (even though that’s where we are headed)? Do you want a two tier system where the wealthy get the best and the rest get worse? Wouldn’t a system used by all be better so the wealthy fight to keep it good quality?
I currently have a viral chest infection. (UK Based British citizen) Spoke to my NHS GP Surgery at 3pm. Appointment to see a Nurse Practitioner at 4.30. Consultation and examination took place in the local GP Surgery. The Nurse Practitioner decided I needed Antibiotics. She then emailed my prescription to the local pharmacy and by 5.30, I had the Antibiotics , all free of charge because of my age!! All sorted within 2 and a half hours of initial contact. God bless our NHS !!!
Over 40% of cancer patients in the UK are forced to wait over two months for urgent treatment. Over 10 million in England alone are waiting for surgery for years. Ambulance wait times in the UK are currently over 60 minutes. The NHS is a complete joke.
I'm in Scotland and I broke my arm in February. I had to wait for hours in agonising pain before an ambulance could take me to hospital. The healthcare I received after getting to the hospital has been superb though. I am thankful and praise the NHS as they do a fantastic job and don't get enough recognition.
@@foolishmuleth6757 And I think THAT is not true at all. These people who do a fantastic job deserve much better than what yous are giving. I will continue to praise them because they do a superb job and folks don’t give them enough credit.
i can't imagine the level of anxiety caused by being too poor for insurance in the US. Medical bills do not discriminate and injuries happen to people at random, removing their ability to pay for the treatment. It's like a form of non-consentual gambling where you get ever so slightly increased monthly wage *until you have something happen to you requiring hospitalization then you're totally fucked forever*
Had a very minor procedure today. Waited 8 weeks, which I had no problem with as it wasn’t a massive issue. Appointment was at 3. Arrived slightly early and they were ready. 3 hours later back at home having paid for only my prescription for something in America that would have cost $600. I am more than happy to pay NI and fair taxes, of course I’d like a bit more money for myself but at the end of the day the NHS has always been there for me and I want it to be there for everyone else. Even today, in the middle of a pandemic, I was seen early and the staff were amazing all and sorted in three hours. Makes me proud to be British.
"13% of each worker's wages up to a ceiling earnings level beyond which no more is paid. So if someone is earning the equivalent of US$30000, they pay about $330 a month of National Insurance." 13% of my wages per month is somewhere near 450 usd, that means id pay somewhere around 5k a year on health insurance to the NHS. i havent been to the doctor or needed any dental work or any other remotely large ticket item in like 10 years. that means i would have paid 50k over the last 10 years for healthcare that i get no control or say over. if that seems like fair taxes then you do you lol. i am so fucking glad i live in the united states. i pay about 350 usd a month on my PRIVATE insurance that gets me access to a phenomenal network of doctors and ive never had to pay more than like 100 usd out of pocket for care just like you, only my care is much nicer as my privatized insurance gets the best doctors on its network by offering them more money than the competition. if i lived in your country i likely wouldnt be able to pay for my kids college due to that 5k a year theyd be stealing, so glad i dont live in britain.
@@jjjj-cy3vz I pay zero on my health insurance and still covered by universal healthcare lol. If your healthcare system is such a good one, why do Americans even travel to Mexico, a third world country for treatment? Oh yea because the American healthcare system is ass.
@@jjjj-cy3vz Funny how you think the British or any European countries pay for college or healthcare. It’s covered and subsidised by the government lol
@@jjjj-cy3vz You are very lucky to have that insurance plan, average price of health insurance in the USA is just over USD7000 a year, if we take how much the average UK citizen would pay in NI it is 2810.6 GBP, or about 3,288 USD per year. As you can see, far lower. Of course if you earn Above average salary you will be paying more, as with tax, but the average citizen doesn't. I would also like to point out that if for any reason someone loses their job, or is unable to work, they DO NOT PAY ANYTHING and still receive the same care as someone who does. This also applies to children reducing the burden on parents. If the US system is so great, there wouldn't be people who have died because they cannot afford treatment, people who have later stages of diseases such as cancer because they are scared of the medical bill, and people who have lost their job due to illness, lost their insurance because of this, and died because they cannot afford the inflated prices of healthcare. You would have thought the greatest country in the world would have the highest ranked healthcare, it doesn't. It sits below over 20 other countries, pretty much all of which have universal healthcare.
@@JustCont lol what? the national average monthly health insurance cost in the united states is $456 which is $5472 annually, not $7000. so now onto your other bit. do you know why healthcare is so heavily inflated in the united states? because your countries highly regulate the prices you will pay for medications, which means that all of the costs for the research and development for those medications ends up falling back on the way less regulated american peoples. americans are literally subsidizing your healthcare. as to the "It sits below over 20 other countries, pretty much all of which have universal healthcare." yea and one of those countries is canada. meanwhile canadians come to the united states for healthcare to avoid their 6 month wait times to see a general practitioner. cuba also has an equivalent life expectancy to the uk according to international health ratings. how is this possible? because each country reports on their own health statistics and most of them lie. "people who have later stages of diseases such as cancer because they are scared of the medical bill" this doesnt happen. the united states has many robust treatment centers for advanced diseases and most of them are donation or tax funded. again the united states tax payer pays for most of the modern day medical innovation in the west. to make my point, the united states has 144.1 deaths per 100,000 population whereas the uk has 266 deaths per 100,000. if the NHS is so great then why is your cancer mortality rates nearly double the united states? "and people who have lost their job due to illness, lost their insurance because of this" this also doesnt happen unless your just dumb. we have a little something referred to as workers rights in the united states. if you get sick enough that you need to go to the hospital then you take medical leave at work and then use your insurance to get care, then you get better and go back to work. with your description of how the united states works the country would have fallen apart due to sickness along time ago. so in summary most of this is just incorrect and based entirely on socialist propaganda in order to make you believe that socialist systems are superior. no country has ever succeeded under socialist systems.
You have me there... I keep wondering what they mean by "greatest". Of course in other countries, you find people that want to come to America! For all the opportunities that can be accomplished.
Free health doesn’t make you a great county! The fact that you can make anything of yourself and social class doesn’t matter is what makes it the greatest county!
@@jordanhg5221 No we don't. I have just as much freedom in Japan as I did in the US. However, the US has way more gun crime than virtually every other developed country, is 1st or 2nd in obesity, not even in the top 25 for national IQ, more aircraft carriers than the next 16 countries combined, wasted Billions on new aircraft (F22 and F35) when the F15 has STILL never even lost a dogfight yet, has an ungodly incarceration rate, a national drug problem... Hell, even Cuba has a lower homicide rate than the US. What can you do in the US that I cannot do in Japan?
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@@lloydfrancis9149 yeah I payed £3,000 last year national insurance and I worth every penny But even if I couldn’t pay I would still receive my health care 💙💙💙💙💙
@@oasis4life014 how often do you get care? once every 10 years? once every 20? im talking big ticket items not checkups. im willing to bet that your average person goes 10 years or longer without needing it on average and that means youve thrown 30k down the drain HOPING your GOVERNMENT is using it correctly. god help you.
I snapped my ankle in bits and the nhs said if I wasn’t going to get treatment I would probably get arthritis at 13, goddam I’m lucky my mom pats taxes and the nhs got me into a operation 2 days later. I’m running in some sports now 🙂😀😄
USA citizen. I went to the emergency room for the first time. My mind was blown when I got the first bill...then the second came. I didn't even need a surgery or treatment.
When I visited New York I dislocated my shoulder and in the emergency room they helped me to put it in, it only took all in all 30 minutes but the weird thing was that they really pushed the pain medication pills, I said I didn't need it because I wasn't in so much pain but they kept pushing and pushing and insisted that I would need it. I declined and they actually got a bit angry. After that all happened they presented my with a bill over $4500 and on the bill still were the painkillers when I didn't even used them, I made them take it off the bill and they got even more angry, they said I was a difficult patient. But I admit that the doctor did a good job putting my shoulder in without much pain. My insurance in the Netherlands covered everything, I didn't have to pay a dime.
I can't understand why Americans have never demanded their own version of the N.H.S. Haven't any of your political parties promoted it as an option for Americans to vote for? I'd imagine it would be a landslide if they did.
@@TonyEnglandUK Not even close, unfortunately. That's just not how politics work in the United States. In short, Americans don't decide which party to vote for based on the issues that the party supports; rather, the voters decide whether or not they, themselves, support any given issue based on which party likes it. It's tribalism to the max. "Obamacare". It is a word that lives in myth, legend, and infamy in the United States. In 2010, President Obama wanted to implement universal healthcare. No Republicans supported it. The bill was watered down to try to gain Republican support, causing it not to be truly universal, but it was still a step in the right direction. Ultimately, Obama was betrayed by Republicans that had promised support if he watered it down. Not a single one voted for it, meaning that Obama had settled on less than true universal healthcare essentially for no reason. The Democrats had control at the time and were able to ram it through Congress on a party-line vote. The reaction was instantaneous and apoplectic. There was histrionic talk in the convervative media about how "death panels" would be rationing care. Conservatives breathlessly huffed that this was the beginning of "socialized medicine" in the United States, and "Socialism is bad, mmmkay?" This is actually the event that birthed the so-called "Tea Party" movement in the Republican party. In the 2012 mid-term election, Democrats suffered a massive defeat, losing their majority. Republicans became OBSESSED with repealing Obamacare, to the point that it was all they talked about for most of the remainder of the 2010s decade. When Trump became president, his main objective was to undo everything that Obama had done, starting with Obamacare. However, Obamacare had settled in and taken root by then. It had done certain things like expanding Medicare, which had allowed tens of millions of Americans to get health insurance. It had also ended exlusions for "pre-existing conditions" that had previously prevented millions from accessing healthcare at all, even with private insurance. The public was NOT in favor of getting rid of these provisions, so the Republicans were forced to relent at the precipice of repeal because they knew that to fully repeal would have been suicide for them. Thus, Obamacare simply limped along -- nobody loved it, but nobody dared to try to euthanize it. Obamacare later suffered a serious structural defeat in the courts, however. It included an individual mandate saying that all people had to get health insurance or pay a tax penalty. The purpose of this was to expand the risk pool to include as many healthy people as possible, driving down costs for the sickest who utilize healthcare the most. This was the single most unpopular thing about Obamacare and a successful legal challenge eventually resulted in a court striking down the individual mandate. In most of the states in the US, healthcare is now back to being "optional" instead of mandatory, and this provision is very popular with the public in most of the US. There are currently, I believe, 5 of the 50 states that still have an individual mandate for health insurance, though. All are states where Democrats dominate local politics.
Can I just point out that our NHS in the UK is free at the point of contact, but it's paid for indirectly through our National Insurance that is taken straight from our wages.
"13% of each worker's wages up to a ceiling earnings level beyond which no more is paid. So if someone is earning the equivalent of US$30000, they pay about $330 a month of National Insurance." 13% of my wages per month is somewhere near 450 usd, that means id pay somewhere around 5k a year on health insurance to the NHS. i havent been to the doctor or needed any dental work or any other remotely large ticket item in like 10 years. that means i would have paid 50k over the last 10 years for healthcare that i get no control or say over. you guys get mad ripped off by your system. not only does it end up being more expensive on every individual that doesnt need constant care, it also reduces competition amongst doctors which leads to lower wages which leads to you having inferior medical staff and wait times for care. whereas privatized insurance drives doctors wages up as the insurance companies have to compete with each other to get that doctor on their insurance network which results in the finest doctors flocking here in order to earn more coin. its really quite a simple decision for us here in the united states.
Of course it is and it works for the most part, but in the States they are fleeced numerous times over. Pay medical insurance (check) insurance top ups (check) more top ups (check) SKINT then DEAD
@@jjjj-cy3vz - here is the man who knows the price of everything but the value of nothing. You are not paying your contributions ONLY FOR YOURSELF. Society is not individualistic - cannot be, should not be. It is collective, and that is what our NI (and other taxation) is - collective. There will come a time in your life when you will need the services that your - and everyone else - contributions have paid for. You will be thankful for that. And a corporation didn't profit from you in the process either.
@@diamon999 you make alot of assumptions here with no facts behind them whatsoever. what is the issue with a corporation benefiting from selling me a product as long as i benefit from that product becoming better due to the competition between said corporations? all you have done with the NHS is guarantee that the corporation that has a FULL monopoly on your healthcare system (your government) is able to give you whatever care they deem you worthy of and then charge whatever price they want to for the service because you have no other healthcare options. it is not my job to pay for some fuckin deadbeat that refuses to work or to supply a junkie with narcan. if you dont like that then too bad, go use somebody elses money. also i am willing to bet that i give WAY more money than you do to charity, as i am one of the few individuals in the world that gives 10% of their income as tithe that i pay directly to religious charities, so dont be trying to preach to me about giving to society. i will give my money to those who are actually in need of that money and not to inner-city junkies and gangbangers.
@Poolie Hpool it comes out of taxes. Medicare amount varies and is paid depending on tax bracket. The least amount ive paid is $650 as a single childless person on $50k a year. My ex husband earned 6 figures and family of 5 and we paid less than $2000 for the year. Its well worth every cent 100%. If you are on or below a low income threshhold you pay no levvy. I wouldnt have our health system in australia any other way! Most australians love medicare. We take care of each other instead of only being out for ourselves. Its the aussie way.
Important to note that Health care in the UK is free at the point of service. It is paid for through taxes. It is not "Totally Free". This sadly isn't possible in any economy in the world.
@@imachunt653 America could halve it's military budget and still have the world's biggest military and the money saved could easily kick start a national health service for the people it claims to be defending.
@@imachunt653 Which enemies? Who is going to invade the United States and kill you all? What is the point of all your wealth if you're always afraid of the world?
@@thecockerel86 they are not that rich, most live pay check to pay check. Look at the lines at the food banks in recent weeks. And the man who has the shoulder issue, he said he had very good insurance and just for the Dr to look at it was 5 k, and it cost him 3k. And he still said his insurance was good. The Americans economy is based on military research and development and production of killing machines or things to deliver them. The most stupid nation on the planet.
@@wanngie1 The people interviewed here may not be rich but they live in a very rich country. They collectively choose to spend the wealth on militarism and supporting and bailing out the rich instead of the majority of their citizens. And the citizens have been brainwashed through the decades to accept that this state of affairs is normal, that they must refuse any help from their government so their bosses and elites can continue with their lives of luxury. It is fascinating, but also horrifying to watch from a distance. It's like looking at a very beautifully patterned but super poisonous snake.
@@imachunt653 Well aren't you paranoid. You do realize that the US is the only country that constantly is making enemies and waging war. The countries in Europe have grown up and know that war doesn't benefit anyone.
The thing is, there are also private health care companies in Europe. Those still cost a fraction of what in US. I still find those expensive, I don't use them but it's not like there isn't options for universal healthcare users in those countries. I think it's the universal health care system that keeps the prices down because they know if they raise the prices too high everyone are gonna use the state health services instead.
I have had 23 years of cancer treatment - five operations including three heart procedures - I attach my medical bill below :-
£0000.00 God bless the NHS .
You had me in the first half ngl
i take it you dont work then
@@hugoagogo2307 Poeple who have cancer work. I have a family member who is hard as nails when it comes to working whilst having cancer. Various surgical procedures and therapy treatments. He also competes in amatuer sports for charity. Yea not everyone is able to do those things whilst they're sick but you can't just take it someone don't work. Back under the bridge troll!
@@charlottejohnson5412 Think you Were Missing the point entirely (woosh) "£0000.00 God bless the NHS " the only way this is possible is if you do not work and have never payed National Insurance THE NHS IS NOT FREE .Back under the bridge troll!
@@hugoagogo2307 I think they might be talking about medical bills on top of national insurance but i don’t really know.
The fact that they're insured and that still doesn't cover them is absolutely criminal.
It applies risk factors like life insurance. Some people with important jobs get better insurance just because of their jobs aswell which is also capitalism crap I cant stand.
But I'm British so I'm not 100%
@@TS-oz3ec 66% of the medical bankruptcy are insured americans....so youre fucked either way haha. Idiots would rather get 500 dollars deducted from their checks from insirance than pay a slight increase in taxes. Add on the deductibles copay and Americans pay way more than a slight tax increase to provide healthcare. Also the lay offs from the pandemic lefts millions uninsured. Thats what happens wgen you tie employment to jobs as well. Such a dumb system.
That's the first rule of insurance, isn't it? The cover includes everything except what you're claiming for!
You said spot on
Ikr, what's the whole point of insurance at this point.
The fact that Americans think it's normal and ok to be charged thousands for a ambulance call out is crazy
And then they'll say something stupid like: "An ambulance isnt a taxi to the hospital"... LIKE HUH?!?! THATS LITERALLY THE PURPOSE OF AN AMBULANCE!!
It sort of shows that competition and the market are not working in this industry. Wonder why?
I’m American and I think paying what we do for healthcare is absolutely fucking insane!
In Australia, i havent paid for check ups or help with infections etc for a long time. I had to have a brain scan a while back and it was like $50 or less. USA sounds mental and I don't get why people see it as a benefit not having free general for all and cheaper more serious stuff more alittle extra. Then again, USA minimum wage is like 3 times less than what we pay 14 years old, its all crazy
But it is normal. To them. I’m not sure why that’s blowing your mind.....
One of the most heartbreaking stories I ever heard was an American doctor. He explained that when he went into oncology he thought having to tell parents their child was going to die would be the lowest point he could reach. He said it wasn't even close. Turns out having to tell parents that their child doesn't need to die, but will because they can't afford treatment and don't have insurance is much worse. Then having to sit and watch them do the maths, if they sell everything they own and literally bankrupt themselves, how many extra days can they get.
God bless America
@@lesleymcleod3447 I don't think he does much.
If someone invented a cure for cancer, and it cost millions to produce, should a country tax the entire population to the point everyone can't afford food in order to pay that massive price in order to cure every cancer patient?
Or would it make more sense to need to reduce the cost before it's financially viable to give it to everyone?
One day that treatment they couldn't afford will be as cheap as aspirin is now.
But it's not that cheap now, that's not a fact that can be changed by how much suffering an illness causes. It's something people have to understand. We're all born in this world as weak fleshy creatures who never know what could kill them.
The idea a government can even have the power or ability to make nothing bad every happen to anyone like you seem to be implying they should do, is just not realistic.
@@ge2719 The cost of treatment does raise ethical questions about who you can afford to treat and health services do have a limit on how much they can spend on treatments. The age and future life expectancy of the patient does feed into this. Ideally you would treat everyone, but practically that may not be possible, however it is at least relatively fair for all. Arguably finding a cheap cure for cancer would be even more of an economic disaster, I've heard argued it would actually be the greatest disaster that could befall mankind. If everyone could be cured then the number of old people in the population would increase massively and the working population would be unable to support the huge increase in cost of care, leading to massive economic problems and shortages for everyone.
@@ge2719 What? I agreed with EVERYTHING until "We're all born..." onwards, I see what you got at now. That makes no sense, unless you're talking about specific technologies and treatments which rightfully cost their price, as the cost to produce and make them is very expensive.. And it doesn't account for the many, many other things that cost tens of thousands - or even thousands - while being something as simple as getting a doctor to look at your shoulder injury. Do you live in the US? Because only that would really make sense, for the fierce defense of a clearly unnecessarily-flawed medical system.
The NHS is one of the greatest things the uk has, we need to treasure it.
evidence? i had to deliver my own kid because the so called wonderful NHS refused us entry twice - then the paramedics came late and the nurses came very late - shocking system needs a complete overhaul.
@@James_36 Doesn't need an overhaul, it just needs funding. It's been lacking money for years now so it's no wonder it's struggling.
I'm sure there are some parts of it that do need overhauling but we can't properly identify those until it has the money it needs to properly function
@@reddragon3132 more funding? It gets more fundin and throws it down the drain, it has more than enough money when it is hiring diversity managers
@@James_36 go private then. both my kids delivered well and fine! did you go to the right door?
@@James_36 I don't think the hiring of Diversity Managers is making any real difference to the budget of the NHS. As far as I'm aware, a minority of NHS Trusts employ one Diversity & Inclusion Manager, and they earn between £30,000 and £50,000 each. Their role is also fairly broad, and research from Middlesex University shows promotion of 'inclusion' by NHS leaders increases both provision of care and organisational performance.
What is putting a financial strain on the NHS however, is fragmentation. Successive legislation through both Labour and Conservative (and coalition) governments over the last 3 decades has split the NHS into regional units which have "commissioners" and "providers", forcing the NHS to behave more like a business and less like a public service. These regional so-called Clinical Commissioning Groups (CCGs) have the authority to decide which NHS services to pay for, and which organisations to pay to provide them - a choice which includes both NHS organisations, and third-party, for-profit healthcare corporations.
NHS England, a QUANGO led by Simon Stevens tasked with 'optimising management' of the NHS, and has nothing to do provision of care, has promoted the implementation of Integrated Care Systems (ISCs) (previously known as Accountable Care Organisations), which puts funding decisions into the hands of management consultancy firms like Deloitte and Capita, who are tasked with increasing 'efficiency and sustainability', which they do by making allocations of funding for care provision on an actuarial basis, and contracting mostly American 'health systems support' companies who divert much of the NHS funding stream to private profits for third party providers. ISCs were legislated for in the Health and Social Care Act 2012, although presently their existence must be permitted by local authorities and regional NHS organisations, NHS England has proposed legislation which would make ISCs statutory bodies by April.
It's true that the NHS needs more funding, but it also needs the implementation of an NHS Reinstatement Bill to re-centralise the funding pool, and stop money being thrown down the drain as you put it, into the coffers of private providers and management consultants, and to abolish the inherent profit motives of CCGs.
I'm very sorry to hear that the NHS didn't provide you with the care you needed when you needed it, and I'm afraid I'm sure that your experience is not a unique one, however that isn't a failure of the original tenet of the NHS - providing care to everyone free at the point of delivery, but a failure of its subsequent corporatization.
Edit: spelling correction.
Healthcare is free in most European countries even the poorer countries like Romania its free
Tax payer funded. Nothing is free.
@@SpareSomeChange8080 still cheaper then 5000 for a doctors consultation
@@SpareSomeChange8080 As someone from Romania who broke her leg multiple times and comes from a low income family, I can assure you that by having it funded through tax payer money, we save thousands of dollars in the long run. It is a lot cheaper and lowers the chance of having our Healthcare system turn into a business, like in America.
@@tormclean9657 I understand, and agree, but calling it "free" is a bit cheeky to all the tax payers that fund it.
We have problems of people flying into our country, using our health care because they think "oh it doesn't matter, it's free" when it's actually us that's footing their bills.
@@SpareSomeChange8080 it is free if you don't pay taxes
Paying into the nhs is a privilege and I’m proud to do so! It’s the greatest part of civilised man, the ability to save someone else’s life.
Then why did your garbage NHS kill so many of its covid patients? You did a bad job saving their lives.
@@fatherson5907
If you’re American, with quarter of a million dead, I’d sit down and keep quite. The nhs were also not responsible for deaths, policy was.
Bonehead with a bonehead comment.
@@fatherson5907 Our NHS kill so many patients? Most of the covid deaths in the UK are due to old age people with immunodeficiency or those who are very sick. The level of healthcare in the UK is excellent and patients get treated well. Also respect those working on the front lines in the NHS, doctors, nurses, surgeons etc. working overtime to ensure everybody is safe. You just cant disrespect the NHS.
@@thwalesproductions Don't bother, Father son is a troll and he has been trolling other videos about healthcare systems.
Father son?! Garbage NHS keeps me alive.
Europeans: So how do you manage to survive if you can’t afford to pay your healthcare insurance?
Americans: *that’s the neat part you don’t*
Just go to Mexico for healthcare lol.
By working at a strip club, as the lady said.
Healthcare is free here in Australia.
😭
You get INSURANCE
"Americans guess the cost of British healthcare" translates to "one American is told the cost of healthcare"
agree. awful clickbait title and a reporter who only sometimes wear a mask. thumbs down. no sub
This is the kind of news I would like to read in the U.S. (Greetings from Italy🇮🇹, the child's family paid 0€ for this) : A seven-year-old child successfully operated at the Regina Margherita hospital of the City of Health in Turin waited for the transplant for 525 days in hospital, connected to an artificial heart. A real record with a happy ending after a year and a half lived thanks to an artificial heart Berlin Heart, the longest implantation time among the little 'heroes' of pediatric cardiac surgery at the Turin children's hospital.
He waited for the transplant for 525 days in the hospital, connected to an artificial heart, a seven-year-old child successfully operated at the Regina Margherita hospital of the City of Health in Turin. A real record with a happy ending after a year and a half lived thanks to an artificial heart Berlin Heart, the longest implantation time among the little 'heroes' of pediatric cardiac surgery at the Turin children's hospital.
The baby is fine and has already been discharged.
Born in Morocco, in the summer of 2019 the boy began to suffer from symptoms of heart failure. With his mother he joins his father in Liguria and, after a short period of hospitalization in another pediatric hospital, he is transferred by helicopter to the Regina Margherita. Not even the time to enter the cardiac surgery ICU, directed by Dr. Sergio Michele Grassitelli, that his heart stops.
Reanimated and subjected to Ecmo, the extra-corporeal circulation, a few days later an artificial Berlin Heart is implanted which keeps him alive and allows him to recover. The child begins to appreciate Italian cuisine, grows up, learns our language, under the watchful eyes of his father and mother, who in the meantime gives birth to a little brother.
All this for 525 long days, all in hospital, some spent in the premises of Margaret Island, the space for the long-term care of patients of the Oncohematology directed by Professor Franca Fagioli. Then the heart transplant by the team of pediatric cardiac surgeons, headed by Dr. Carlo Pace Napoleone. A very fast recovery, the amazement of waking up without the artificial ventricle lying on the abdomen, connected to a control console that kept him alive but limited him in all actions. A few days of hospitalization among the pediatric cardiologists and the nurses of Dr. Gabriella Agnoletti, followed closely by Enrico Aidala, heart surgeon in charge of the Transplant Program, and in recent days the discharge.
Ikr bad title
Amen tothat. What a joke hey. Avoid this video
My thoughts exactly
Treasuring the NHS is probably the only thing that the right wing and left wing in Britain 100% agrees on
Anyone who doesn't should just look at the prices we pay
@david nope what?
@david nope I'm sorry but I didn't understand a single thing of what you said
@david nope its British history labour fuck things up the Tories get voted in to fix it get all the blame then once its fixed people vote labour back in to fuck it all again and then the Tories job is to fix it again. People fail to look at history and just vote labour because there dad told them to or they have a communist as Party leader
@@kaiserpiplup4486 it was a liberal Idea not labour.
Funny thing is Americans will go to the mat arguing why they would pay billions in taxpayer dollars for their military but not for national health care.
Thing is, the US and the UK are the only two NATO countries that fund their militaries to the extent agreed.
You benefit from US taxpayers funding their military because their military directly protects you.
@@baldieman64 I think you just strengthened the OP's point. You are defending military spending (which is absolutely fine) but the USA seems to have this opposition to free healthcare like it is some sort of crazy left wing idea. NHS in the UK is completely free at the point of use to anyone. I heard about the girl who died at Sandy Hook and the parents had an $80,000 bill for the ambulance that failed to resuscitate her, the family lost their home to pay the bill. This shouldn't be allowed to happen anywhere in the world, let a lone a country that considers itself the leaders of the free world. The healthcare system in America is not only a massive con but also not very good. Even a US thinktank labelled it the worst healthcare system in the developed world.
@@baldieman64 - What seems even crazier is the huge amount of debt the US has and yet spends vast amounts on its military, as a result infrastructure and a more structured health care system are way down the list of priorities- As someone who has paid into the U.K. health system through normal taxation and national insurance contributions, It feels reassuring that I wouldn’t have to sell my house if I became really ill.
@@rogerbarrett9920 I'm a massive supporter of socialism
@@baldieman64 The USA, UK, Greece and Poland fund NATO USA, Greece and UK above the 2% in order and Poland at 2%.
No one benefits from the USA military, it's a myth that has been created by your political parties, they have a laws that USA spent over $700 billion on the military this year. USA government pays more in tax payers cash to USA healthcare than the UK government does for the whole of the NHS. The USA government can afford to spend on the military, a National Healthcare system and, as other countries do, force the pharmaceutical companies to charge less, and no USA pharmaceutical companies don't invest more into research, it mainly goes to shareholders, a USA study found UK pharmaceutical companies fund more research into drugs etc.
It is absolutely mind boggling how the US can claim to be "the greatest country" let alone even a first world country . smdh
They are the definition of a first world country though.
@@paddystrongjaw9995 The US is litterally the most backwards first world country.
@@mateo9467 USA as they say is A third world country with a gucci belt
USA is the richest third world country in the world, that's the best description.
@@lazaromora8263 yet the most in debt
The NHS actually makes me proud to be British
You arent
@@declanferguson1040 my red passport says otherwise, so does my birth certificate. And I’ll make sure I produce more little brown kids too populate Britain.
Why, me and my wife had a miscarriage, 8 hours bleeding in a and e before being seen,Had to wait 6 months for a councillors, had to go private to support my wife as she had a breakdown with no help from nhs. Had a weird blip on my check up, Had to wait 7 months for a hospital ecg. Two week doctors appointments and bankrupting the country and so so inefficient.
And to top it off it ain’t free I pay £396.98 a month in NI contributions. We are literally paying for a over bloated, inefficient government run car crash.
Your proud that you can’t see the position of how it can’t and isn’t sustainable anymore good on you
@@sameaulahad2824 I simpily missed out the question mark, it wasn't intended to be construed like that "You aren't?" as in you already aren't proud. Wtf is that response.
@@declanferguson1040 With that context your comment is understandable. But without it, it makes it seem like you're saying he's not British because of his "foreign" name.
That last young man's comment was spot on... "people need to be educated on the issue but they just don't want to be". Voluntary ignorance is no way to go through life people...🤔
This is simple ignorance caused by poor education being supplied.
AKA...dumbing down.
Socialism is cancer. Capitalism is the best system ever
@@howler6490 Bruh don't just assume Americans are uneducated. We're preoccupied. The medical field doesn't have a secure enough leash on it so they just rack up the price to what they want. People know this. Nothing US citizens can do but vote, and we're divided by the idea of the far left, and right, but the scheme there is to have us all preoccupied by fighting amongst each other. I lean more conservative and right, but there is always a need for some government control. Even in a capitalistic society. No one is being "dumbed down". It's the fact that were too busy arguing with each other about two political sides that in the end want a similar goal, and both parties know it.
@@alexanderg8466 rofl. capitailsm relies on bail outs from the government claiming they are 'too big to fail"
@@brillsmith2207 lol. That is corporativism a dirty part of capitalism. But I never said that I love capitalism. The best system is far from perfect.
imagine having to pay a bill for the firetruck to come to your house to put out a fire or getting a bill from the police because they stopped someone robbing you. In the rest of the developed world healthcare is seen as an essential service that saves lives just like the police or fire service.
Its more akin to your house being on fire and the firemen refusing to put it out and rescue anyone until the Insurance provider approved the measures to be used based on your policy. "Sorry sir but your insurance policy only covers for one of your children to be pulled from the inferno."
Don't have to imagine too hard. That's the way fire services operated in Victorian times. They were essentially commercial organisations.
@@Hertog_von_Berkshire Good Job we are in the year 2020 where we are wiser and a bit more civilised.
@@Jack-uy7ie We as in not American then!
@@tsu8003 Yes ofcourse. America is still a child in terms of culture and history. Albeit a child with a BFG.
I come from an north african " 3rd world country " and we have free health care coverd by national policy , my brother was born with a disease and couldnt eat properly and needed an operation , a really important long one , he did it at the age of 3 years old , and it cost a symbolic price of a 0.25$ admission fees of the hospital.
it is a shame for a country like the US to have a health care system that prioritize money over the life of its citizen, to have people die because they cant afford insulin is something to be ashamed of.
Capitalism and greed runs deep
I agree and I live in the US. 🥲
@@Angeloflight1415_LastelleCrea Same
Healthcare in the UK isn’t free. They actually pay more for healthcare per year in taxes. It’s just automatically deducted from their paychecks so they don’t see it. They pay that if they are sick or not.
@@calaragazza3556 same for us and it's ok to be able to contribute for the better good
Breaking Bad in Germany: Chemistry teacher Walter White feels unwell, goes to the Doctor, they discover he has Cancer. Treatment starts next week end of story.
Same almost anywhere in Europe.
Then they execute him for being circumcised.
@@ClodiusP No, Germany doesn’t have the death penalty.
@@ClodiusP ????
@@ClodiusP there 's no death penalty in Germany, France or The UK. In fact most of the West has got rid of it. So if he is getting executed anywhere, its in the US.
People going to Mexico for their healthcare, I think that says a lot.
I have a friend that goes to Mexico every once and a while because he has braces and he got them there, I never understood why he would get them their in the first place, now I know
@@jacobbowness8125 That's based on what? Why would people go to US where you get less quality and more expensive?
@@jacobbowness8125 I'll just let you live in a bubble, there's no reason to argue with a brainwashed american.
I've had friends tell me about that the care in Mexico is typically substandard. I knew someone whose broken leg was cast incorrectly and had to have it rebroken and set as a result. Don't be fooled, everyone is eligible for insurance here, but you have to apply for it. Nothing is free, everything had a cost whether it be by taxpayers or private insurance through employers.
@@jacobbowness8125 best what???? U crazy?????
It’s not quite free in the UK for the working man who does pay tax and National Insurance which pays for the nhs BUT it is worth every penny
Rarely needed to use the NHS but I know that one day I will need it, so happy to pay into it
Plus we pay half of what they do and we have one if not the best healthcare in the world (proven by many studies). America pays the most out of any developed nation and still has worse quality of care than most of Western Europe.
Obviously there is a bit more tax but then there’s no insurance to pay for so really your probably spending less and even if u don’t need the quacks u could be helping someone else get treatment
exactly! you wouldnt want to get old and rely on savings your whole life to keep you alive
Your right, nothing is ever free. But it’s a great system. Seems like Americans would rather be ripped of . 5000 dollars for having a collarbone looked at. That is just disgusting.
I live in the UK. My healthcare taxes are automatically deducted from my payment. Don't know how much, don't really care because i don't really feel it. In January 2021 I've had a pretty bad case of pneumonia because of COVID. I've been in hospital for about 5 days, with all medicine, food and all afferent medical care included. I've got out of the hospital without having to pay one single penny. Now that's real health care! ❤️NHS❤️
The food isn't exactly Michelin Star though.
@tom201090 well it's not really a michelin restaurant either, is it? I've had worse food in some restaurants to be honest.
@@razvanursache9493 maybe it varies by hospital?
@@tom201090 probably
@@tom201090I'd never complain about free food
I'm in Australia and I'm happy to pay a small amount extra in my taxes knowing that the person down the road who i don't know will get the help they need. You judge a society not on how many nuclear bombs they have but how well it treats its most vulnerable.
as long as they arent aboriginal eh? :P
Not only the most vulnerable but for everyday mishaps, for example a child hurt at a playground or someone tripping and getting injured on their journey to work. A wealthy nation like the USA with no universal health care is bonkers.
That’s why your country couldn’t win a war or protect yourself that’s why America has to protect you . Your soft , people die that’s life my mom smoked for years and developed cancer and died I love my mom but why should someone have to pay for her bad choices . As Americans it’s understood we hate taxes so for that reason hell no to welfare make good choices and good things happen . Life is meant to end death is not a bad thing it’s a part of life you coward
@@kanedNunable cmon.aboriginals get looked after..its the white man's liquor that's the problem
I just want to commend you on saying how you do pay taxes for your “free” services. Many Europeans neglect that bit of information and simply say their visits are free. The cost of Healthcare is pretty much the same around the world, only difference is how we choose to pay for it. Collectively or Individually. Cost for Healthcare alone in the UK is roughly $7k/yr per person (taxes). It definitely is not free.
Millions of Americans over the years have gone bankrupt due to ill health costs - that has never happened in the UK - simples in my mind NHS wins hands down.
Once a family is ruined it can take generations to recover and they become a burden on society in any number of ways. If knock backs are shared the comeback is quick and that burden on society might never happen. Its the principal behind a welfare state and social security. It's always threatened by the right wing ethos of survival of the fittest and every man for himself supported by those who reckon bad things will never happen to them or those that actually struggled through without anyone helping them.
@@redf7209 Survival of the fittest does not fit into modern society , neither does everyone having a gun. America has not moved on since the wild west days to enough degree. The sad thing is this Covid19 might change their minds, if not they may have to wait till the next plague. Shared disaster redemption/epiphany is better than everyone for themselves!
But over other healthcare systems it falls behind quite a bit
@@1jackct which are talking about? The NHS of the UK per capita is in fact cheaper to run then the US health system. Sure sometimes you are put on a list for treatment but if urgent you are treated immediately. Thats when there isnt some plague of course.
@@1jackct no it does eat it’s one of the best in the world are u alright?😂
I feel there are a lot of Americans who prefer the system where they pay a lot to cover themselves rather than a little to cover everyone 🤔
ME ME ME ME ME ME. that what those americans are saying. they would rather pay more, just so they have someone to look down on.
@@itwoznotme They think that you are a communist, when you help others
@@Saasbutter Makes sense. But it's still stupid.
@@luanunes14 You should see some of America. We have a U.S. House of Representative member who says the Rothschilds have a space jew laser and people are defending her
The main problem in the US isn't necessarily directly this (although it certainly does encourage incredible selfishness). Rather, it's the effects of it. Pushing the responsibility to individuals, who within society have comparatively low socioeconomic power, allows big pharma to swindle and charge exorbitant prices. When the same corps are having to deal with governments, surprise surprise those prices come down considerably.
As someone from third world country, I wanna say we have almost free health care. For instance, my brother once had an operation for his broken legs. The only thing we paid was his medicine (pain meds). We didn't pay for the cost of operation since it was covered in the national health care policy.
which country
Assume uk but could be a European country as well. Edit. Thanks for correcting me. I should’ve done more research before commenting.
@@12Acorns and uk is not european? =))
@@12Acorns The UK isn’t a third world country.
@@12Acorns I assume you are murican for your lack of education.
“the NHS is the closest thing the English people have to a religion”, Nigel Lawson
We have NHS in Scotland not just Englistan
@@alemgas I see what you did there but were clamping down
Canadians took a poll to name the greatest Canadian of all time. It wasn't Wayne Gretzky or any other hockey player. It was Tommy Douglas, father of Canada's universal healthcare.
@@kaylajohnny3544 no one cares
Well Nigel is a moron that forget that the UK isn't just England. (Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland exist.),
The I love the fact that the taxes I pay as National Insurance, helps me, helps others, and then forms the funds of my state pension. What a brilliant system.
You are entitled to whatever system you think is best for your country. But don’t try to impose your values on us. We don’t want garbage NHS.
@@neekBG3 that is fair. I also love the quality of treatment that I receive from my system.
@@neekBG3 and we here are lucky to have the best research institutions, best hospitals, best medical schools and highest level of medical innovation in the world, despite what the propaganda on these bias videos shows
@@fatherson5907 until you lose a job or dont have insurance and cant afford some treatment ahhhhh then you will feel the depths of the inequality and injustic of the system. When you feel it on your own skin. When you are refused basic treatment from people who take an oath to do no harm and system that is supposed to be about peoples health, then you will wake the F up. land of the free indeed, free to be ripped off .
@@fatherson5907 Say that to one of your citizens who die from lack of funds to pay.
meanwhile in America
doctor: congratulations, the baby is perfectly healthy!
*card declines*
doctor: *sigh* lift up your gown.
XDD
Oh Jesus it’s not that bad
Make a meme out of this🤣🤣🤣
@@dexis1717 don’t
@@jayasmrmore3687 Why??
As you can see, American people WANT change. We know how ridiculous this is, we’ll never win against big pharmaceutical, insurance companies, and the politicians WE vote in
Honestly, lets just restart the states.
@@whyplaypiano2844Have you tried turning it off and on again?
the problem is that there's too many people that don't CARE about it. The amount of people who know how deep this goes is somewhat low and are considered conspiracy theorists. The vote of those people isn’t enough to take out the bad politicians. On the other side, all politicians do is lie, they make promises of change and the only thing they change is how much more money they put in each other's pockets. They won't tell you how bad it is either because if they do then they'll be losing money.
As a native American living in the UK since the age of 14 the NHS in the UK is fantastic , I broke my leg when young my mother who's a doctor phoned for an ambulance it came I went into hospital well looked after great staff then home in a cast all free fantastic .
How do u live in the uk if your Native American plz explain I’m confused 🤔 because aren’t you American 🇺🇸
@@mystic9806 Oh dear! He said quite clearly that he’s lived in the UK from the age of 14. Native American is his heritage/ethnicity. Believe it of not, there are many people around the world who have moved to another country. The UK has about 100k immigrants who were born in the USA. They’re still American by birth even if they’ve become British nationals. In the same way, Brits who’ve moved to the USA and become US citizens are still British by birth. It’s quite simple, really.
This is where National Insurance comes out of our wages, we all contribute to the pot, to help whoever needs it.
@@mystic9806 is American
When I was 6 I fell out of bed in Greece and broke my collar bone. My parents took me to the hospital, Got it all sorted. 13 Euros.
My nan still lives in Greece, She recently had cataract surgery, The doctor drove from Athens, Picked her up in his own car to the hospital in Athens, Fixed her up, she stayed in a few days to make sure all was good, Drove her home. 300 Euros.
Now bear in mind, A taxi from Athens airport to her village costs around 150euros.
preety expensive
Wow
Costs 13 euros to have your broken collar bone taken care of 🤯 as an American if that happened to me I’d rather purge or commit suicide
Well I am from India and I once had a muscle tear in mu foot and the funny thing about it that my medicines only cost around 350 Ruppes or like 3 dollars or something like that
Prescriptions are no longer free. A large number of people in the UK are now been prescribed antidepressants so they are been charged at least £9.50 a month. Coincidence?
Could easily be a placebo/sugar tablet they are been sold.
Big pharma are cleaning up. Both party's are collaborating to make these companies richer.
If Labour promised to return to free medical prescriptions they would probably get back into power.
But nobody is interested in that.
Many Americans argue that they don't want to pay for other people's health care, nor indeed other people paying for theirs. I would argue back that their contributions to their health care provider is never ring-fenced for their exclusive use. In fact, insurance companies operate in the same way as the NHS, with the exception that they're profit driven. So, if you're American, think about the board of directors of your health insurance company, and how many long haul vacations they take every year, and the private schools they send their children to, and who's paying for it all.
people would have had and still do have the same opinion but we have had the NHS here 72 years now so i guess some attitudes have changed but in reality, one cannot please everyone, all of the time.
Yep. I’ve gotten into countless arguments over this, and the answer every time is ‘I don’t want to be paying for someone else’s healthcare’, and they can’t possibly see past that to understand the benefits of socialised healthcare.
Funny thing is they pay for their Fire and Rescue and Police through their taxes. But that is not 'Socialism'
They are so dumb.
If you are Paying Health care insurance you are already Paying for some elses Health care where do People think the money comes from to pay for the Procedures/Consultation it comes from the insurance premiums people pay into the company
They're already paying for others it's co-pay
The NHS saved my life twice Breast cancer and tumor in my head, I survived both thank you NHS it cost nothing ❣❣😀💙💙💙
No need for a thanks, me a UK tax payer, help pay for your problems.
This is something it is NOT free.
It costs tax payers to keep the NHS.
It is worth every penny.
@@Turnpost2552 ew salty muricans
i am glad you are okay now :)
@@Turnpost2552 She's expressing gratitude, stop being so sour towards someone that is just thankful for the treatment they have had
Praise Nye Bevan who fought reactionary politicians and medical professionals to make our NHS, he was a saint ..
I lived in the USA for 12 years in the 1980’s My daughter cost 5000 when she was born. I made sure I got jobs with health insurance but it never covered everything. We are lucky to have the NHS.
Wow, the 1980s was a long decade apparently!
USA: Pay us to have your babu
I am proud to have our NHS. One of the best we’ve got in the UK.
Pity the Tories have now put it up for sale.
@Bryan Bradley you really want a gun that bad? Lol
@@ellenbainprior4682 I swear they are upping the funding by 33 billion in a couple years
@Bryan Bradley it’s not a necessary mate at all. I don’t know what obsession American have with guns buts it’s fucking weird. Like America has 400+ mass shootings... do you not see a problem with that.
@@Luke-nh5yy Hey, at least some of those people now don't have to worry about their medical bills no more
One of those guessed... That title should be more like 'Americans talk about American healthcare'
was just about to comment the exact same thing haha
@@kaylajohnny3544 .... Are you on drugs more to the point, the fuck, get outta here.
@@CroftyOriginal just report...
I went years without insurance and finally got a plan through my new job (at a good company) so I went for a checkup. Basic checkup where the doc looks at your tongue, listens to your heartbeat and does that thing where they tap the little mallet on your knees. Got a bill a month later for almost $300. I called the office and said I think there is a mistake-did my insurance info not go through? Oh yes, they said. You’re insurance covered $115! 😐 total for the visit was $408, $320 of which was the base office visit fee. Robbery.
Sounds like the doctor's office was "out of network" for your insurance. An office visit co-pay for a typical visit should be in the range of $20 to $40, depending on your plan. It's imporant to check to make sure that your doctor is in-network for your specific plan, as they all vary.
@@StochasticUniverse no, I found this dr on my insurance portal! My point is, medical costs are ridiculously high, insurance coverage or no coverage. No professional has any business charging $300+ for a 20 min consultation.
"5000. My insurance paid most of it. I paid nearly 3000" lmao 😅
I think he means overall not just that one bill
I "walked away" 2 decades ago from a bill for four days in the hospital, with surgery/etc. That was for over $ 40,000 Dollars. Couldn't pay it even if I wanted to. No job, no prospects thereof either. Took me two years of Legal hassle to get them to take it as a tax loss. Two years! Of them threatening me to take me to court! I wish they had in the first 6 months after my stay. Could have saved so much time.
And no, I didn't qualify for Medicaid/Medicare either...
There were no Social programs to fall back on.
The good news is I hear that the wealthy rarely pay their healthcare bills either. But they do pay their Lawyers!
@@ivanivonovich9863 well that was a depressing end:(
I thought he was going to say I paid 300$ hahahha
probably would be helpful if americans had free education then
Comparing the US health care to strip clubs is an insult to strip clubs!
LOL, LOL, LOL, hilarious, but True.
Far fewer people die because of neglectful strippers.
They'd be confused how much to tip the government.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
So why is the EU begging us for covid vaccines. Let them die, good riddance!
This is the reverse of the one they did in London. Amazing how different it is in America, shocking
this is what you get with 40 years of Reaganomics.....it's all greed greed greed and it will be our downfall too.
@@miamidolphinsfan It’s also to do with the American attitude, a lot of Americans especially Republicans hate the idea of socialised healthcare because they feel that they are paying for other people instead of themselves.
@@TheMikeskillz but that's how the police, fire public education, roads, etc all work, but something this fundamental LOL idiots. By the way if you're young & healthy you are paying for older patients at your Health Insurance company...so why not have guaranteed healthcare for all ? It's makes for a stronger, & healthier populace...it's just stupidity & brainwashing by the healthcare industry to keep you from having what every other nation offers.
in the USA: Oh dear i broke my finger, better take out a 5,000 dollar loan
in the UK: pop to A&E, wait up to four hours and get it snapped back into place. Pay maybe £10 ($17) for pain meds for a month
@@AzguardMike and in the USA you still have to wait the 4 hours
It's not just health care we get, it's child care, holidays, education .. I couldn't believe that most Americans don't get paid holidays or child care..
Most Americans do get paid holidays, just fewer in number, typically about 10 days per year. The childcare struggle is real, though.
@@StochasticUniverse I'm truly amazed at how much it costs the American people to live.. 10 days is nothing..if you have children most of that will be taken with sick days.... Out of curiousity, how many weeks/months a year are your political members given leave ? I'd wager it's alot more than 10 days..
Crazy what these underdeveloped countries have to go through
@@kaylajohnny3544 what total bullshit
Lmao
😂😂
Please don't insult underdeveloped countries. Some of us have universal healthcare
@@theMerryMonarch i think they are saying USA is underdeveloped (sarcastically )
I live in México and my mom had breast cancer like 4 years ago and it was all paid by the medical insurance (which cost like 200 dollars per year if not free) now she's cancer free and it's still getting all her follow up and even had the reconstruction whitout extra charge or anything
That's great. It's the first civilised thing a government should do, provide health care. It's literally life or death.
The NHS is not free but I would rather have a system of tax than the American system.
sam conway the Yanks have a "system of tax" they just spend it all on Tanks & Aircraft Carriers and armed conflicts. " God Bless America "
@David Gray cloud you are right that there is no charge at the point of service. But you do pay for the NHS in terms of tax.
@David Gray cloud I'am not arguing with you I agree with the NHS system. If you read my first text it says that the NHS system is the right one to have. Theres nothing humanitarian about a poor man dying because he can't pay to save his life. You are right.
The fact is that the NHS benefits massively from the development of drugs and procedures developed in American labs and hospitals.
Neither system is perfect and the consequences of waiting times in the UK mean that the US has significantly better outcome than the UK for cardiovascular disease and for many common cancers.
@David Gray cloud "The United States accounted for 42% of prescription drug spending and 40% of the total GDP among innovator countries and was responsible for the development of 43.7% of new molecular entities" An NME is; a drug that does not contain an active moiety previously approved by the Food and Drug Administration.
The US also developed the first oral polio vaccine, the first vaccines for measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox, meningitis, pneumonia, smallpox, hepatitis A and Lymes disease. HIV was identified in the US, the Human Genome Project was run from the US and US scientists discovered how to use human skin cells to create embryonic stem cells.
The list of US surgical developments is also long.
FWIW, I'm not even American.
The American Actor Rob Delaney called the NHS, “The Pinnacle of human achievement.” The 8th wonder of the world.
Sometimes I think we take our NHS for granted, it's so normal for health are to be free I can't even imagine paying thousands to get something looked at or fixed
@TheShadowblade still less than you 🤪
@TheShadowblade well it was a good assumption to make seeing as you said ‘you’ and not ‘we’
@TheShadowblade still better than paying full, also that’s probably less than what they’d pay in a year (with paying insurance and the times when you get injured and meds), sorry for coming off mean and I just reread your comment of living in the uk, so ima change the you to they.
@TheShadowblade Every healthcare system is cheap if you eliminate the poor.
@TheShadowblade so? whats your point?
Ain't Nothin' But A Strip Club. Best description of America I've ever heard. Trump would've won a landslide with that slogan.
Im not sure youve understood where she was coming from, she's basically saying people like Trump only exist to perpetuate this shitty situation and keep the money rolling in.
May I ask what country u live in&if it's the US which State?..And I have lived&worked in the US and the UK.
@Jake Green he didn't though did he 🤣 he got creamed.
@Jake Green A country where people get teargassed on the order of their President IS a gulag. You are living in one my friend.
Nerd. Lapdance
Just like that lady my family also travels to 🇲🇽 just to go to the hospital, even with the cost of a plane ticket you end up paying waaay less than in America.
I honestly can’t get my head around paying at all, yes it comes out in tax, so I don’t see it but I actually feel good to pay into something that helps save the lives of 1000’s of people per day and that is worth more than momey
@@williebauld1007 that's the thing, a lot of us Americans (not me, my mom is actually a good person) are taught to be selfish: "rugged individualism" or some PC branding that absolute psychopaths popularized. Apparently being kind to others is beta or bluepilled or some fucking bullshit, or you're a "sucker", there's no sense of community here anymore, which is why there's so many psycho cops and people who are homeless are demonized for being too poor to afford a home or too mentally ill to hold down a job... ironic considering how many Americans are devout "Christians" too (about as "Christian" as Trump more like).
This actually makes me cry and love our NHS even more 💙💙💙💙💙💙
Healthcare in the UK isn’t free. They actually pay more for healthcare per year in taxes. It’s just automatically deducted from their paychecks so they don’t see it. They pay that if they are sick or not.
My cousin lives in Puerto Rico and had to get braces. It would've cost her 5,000 dollars. She came to the Dominican Republic, and flight, acommodation, transportation, the braces she needed and every other cost set her back only 1,000 dollars total. USA medical costs are insane!
Puerto Rico isn't the United States, not exactly. There an American territory. The primary reason that American medical expenses are so high is because of medical associations, private companies that run medical associations and Medical Care. They have a limit on how many people can become doctors and all that crap. where Great Britain / the UK wants as many as they can get
Dam the Americans in the comment section really got their feelings hurt by this video
Damn
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My feelings are only hurt because I'm stuck here and I'm afraid to ever get sick or injured 😕
I'm American and I'm not hurt because I agree that our healthcare system is awful. People in a lot of European countries are automatically covered by health insurance but a large proportion of the population here believe that people need to work and save up to receive their own insurance (which only benefits the rich). It's pathetic
@Winter snow Owen yea we are indeed!!
When I was 14, I got braces. My parents had to pay $5,000 after insurance paid their part. I think that's outrageous
Life costs money, moron.
@@fatherson5907 You clearly don't know, so I'll try to explain it to you. I will start by asking you a question. What do doctors in the Uk do differently that doctors in the US do or don't do? Nothing and if there is a difference, it's minimal. Why do you think braces are free in the Uk and not in the US. Even if they aren't free do you really think they should cost $5,000 after insurance. The healthcare system in the US is messed up and if you can't see that, then you're a dumba*s and you clearly learned nothing from watching the video
@@michaelbaker5501 doctor quality in the Uk is far lower, and the hospital quality is inferior.
There’s no such thing as free healthcare. Only complete idiots like you believe that nonsense.
@@fatherson5907 The first two things you said are not true. The Uk is home to some of the best schools in the world. I've never been (and I doubt you have) to a hospital in the Uk so I can't speak to the part about hospital quality. Also, I never said that healthcare is free. I understand that in the Uk the "free" healthcare comes from the taxes their citizens pay. If the US would spend it's money wiser and use our tax dollars on things we actually need then we could have. You have this attitude because you've never been on the other side of the argument. Suppose you were in a car accident and the person who hit you ran. You would now have to foot a bill of probably over 10,000. I don't know about you, but the average American doesn't have $10,000 to spend on medical bills and they would likely have to file medical bankruptcy. You clearly don't know what you're talking about so please do your research before starting an argument
@@michaelbaker5501 Don't bother, Father son is a liar and a troll.
i dont wanna brag, but i broke my arm like 2 months ago, and everything from the x-ray to the cast and checkups
cost 5$... for the hospital parking...
god bless universal healthcare.
Title: Americans guess the cost of British healthcare
Video: Literally asked one person to guess the cost of one procedure 😂
I suppose it would get pretty boring asking the same question with the same answer each time. Fix my leg, free. Cure my cancer, free. Have a baby, free. Lose your job, your savings and have no assets and don't pay a single penny in tax, It's free. Are you a living human being not from the UK, it's free.
@Chris Actually you will be denied a liver like if you are an alcoholic. Not exactly a resource you can waste.
Yeah, kinda lied to us
Maybe everyone else knew the answer or guessed correctly, which wouldn’t have quite the same impact.
@@Jack-uy7ie actually I know someone who had a liver transplant and he is an alcoholic. Granted that he has been trying to quit and his family is keeping and eye on him not to drink but the reason for the transplant was damage caused by alcoholism.
This wasn't as much asking Americans to guess the cost of UK healthcare as asking one person.
"Its nothing but a strip club." 😂
I was not expecting that 🤣
Proud to be an Englishman and being british . I love our American counterparts I feel sorry for their bills bless them🏴🏴🏴🏴🇬🇧❤️🇺🇸
When i was 39 i had a broken ankle that had to be pinned n plated followed 6months later by a hip replacement. Im lucky to be British, as i dread to think what would of happened to me in the US.
You would have been put on disability, at least for a while.
I knew of a man who contracted cancer, and they managed to save his life, but it bankrupted him, and they essentially saved that mans life just to screw him for funds.
He said it would have been more himane to let him die from cancer rather than face the reat of his (saved) life in destitution and homeless.
My friend in America has been in hospital for just a couple of days and she's already facing a bill of thousands of dollars as if the threat of cancer isn't enough to worry about. I asked her if she can't afford to pay will they put back the bad bits they've already had to cut out of her and she said yeah probably! What part of Land of the free is actually being referred to in the National Anthem?
The freedom to be ripped off financially.
@@allanfoster6965 Too right!
THE BEST description of USA ever - nothing but a strip club! It’s a hustle 👏👏👏
I loved the description
@I_Can See_You It means having a high level of work ethic. In order words, you are constantly working/making money.
@I_Can See_You it means to be constantly on the grind to make money
I'm sorry but as a european I find this hillarious. "The insurance company covered big part of the 5k bill. I have REALLY good insurance. But I still had to pay nearly 3k out of my pocket." lol what? That doesn't sound like a "REALLY good insurance" to me. I feel sorry for you guys..
And you give over half of your small paycheck to a corrupt government and get third world garbage in return. And you peasants are celebrating your “free” healthcare.
Rooting for Putin.
Don't bother, Father son is a liar and a troll. He's a butt hurt American who can't stand that other countries have it better than the US.
When I see Americans standing at their front doors clapping and banging saucepans in thanks to their health care system and not just for those who work in it, then I'll believe they have a better set up. We don't kid ourselves that the NHS is in anyway perfect, but at least it puts people before profit. And, by the way, if you want private care you can still get that in the Uk.
...and the private healthcare is better value for money because they have to compete against what the NHS offers!
Geordie boy And anyone who can afford it makes sure they have it! The NHS is useless.
@@annoyingbstard9407 Depends on what you need and where you live perhaps. I agree it can be slow at times but I've never found it useless.
Geordie boy No. You are right - but I'm not always convinced that we get best value or that our money is spent wisely. Our local hospital spent £150,000 on some peculiar statues to go in their fancy new foyer (along with a piano) yet were begging for the public to help pay for a new MRI suite.
@@annoyingbstard9407 You are right to be annoyed about that!
I'm British and I must agree that NHS is the best thing to happen to us. Apart from that everything else in UK is expensive af
weird. Im romanian and i live in the UK for almost 10 years now. Apart from the cost of property I really dont find UK to be expensive at all, well maybe apart from London. I mean I worked on minimum wage for quite a while and I still managed to pay my rent and bills, have a decent lifestyle, buy a car and afford to go on couple of holidays each year. For the thats enough to say that UK has a great life quality and Im grateful for it. The only thing that is expensive if the price of property to be honest
@Ic N like it matters to me if someone accepts me or not. It was just an honest opinion
"13% of each worker's wages up to a ceiling earnings level beyond which no more is paid. So if someone is earning the equivalent of US$30000, they pay about $330 a month of National Insurance." 13% of my wages per month is somewhere near 450 usd, that means id pay somewhere around 5k a year on health insurance to the NHS. i havent been to the doctor or needed any dental work or any other remotely large ticket item in like 10 years. that means i would have paid 50k over the last 10 years for healthcare that i get no control or say over. you are actually getting massively ripped off by a communist policy and most of you havent even bothered to work out the math on it.
Huh? It's not THAT expensive in the U.K. what are you referring to?
@@TonyEnglandUK Transport and accommodation is very dear in the U.K.
I’ve had five operations and multiple MRI’s, scans, ultrasounds, X-rays, blood and urine tests and more doctor visits than I could count over the last two years and haven’t paid a cent here in Australia.
@@kaylajohnny3544 Nobody wants your essential oils Karen
I fucking love this country man, We are honoured as Australians not to be born in
"Land of the free and home of the brave"
@@LibShitted "13% of each worker's wages up to a ceiling earnings level beyond which no more is paid. So if someone is earning the equivalent of US$30000, they pay about $330 a month of National Insurance." 13% of my wages per month is somewhere near 450 usd, that means id pay somewhere around 5k a year on health insurance to the NHS. i havent been to the doctor or needed any dental work or any other remotely large ticket item in like 10 years. that means i would have paid 50k over the last 10 years for healthcare that i get no control or say over. i am so fucking glad i live in the united states. but hey, maybe the united states will remember that land of the free comment when china comes knocking eh?
T A X E S
@@jjjj-cy3vz Except china wont come knocking because half the shit you sell is made in china. Its kind of like if mexico started a war with you despite the fact its the country you get all the crack you smoke from
Time to end corporate healthcare.
No more half measures. No deals. Public universal healthcare is the only way.
I remember the first time an American told me they didn't have free health care and relied on insurance - I was absolutely gobsmacked. Especially when they told me that not everyone had insurance. I just couldn't believe it.
Most Americans have plans either through their parents or through work. Therefore if you lose your job you lose your healthcare. After a certain age you are taken off your parents plan if they haven't done it themselves already
As a Canadian, I am totally amazed that the USA has such expensive health care. I have 2 kids, one of whom had to be in intensive care for 2 months immediately after birth. There was no invoice. It was all covered. I separated my shoulder playing hockey - doctor exam, maybe x-rays (don't remember 15 yrs ago). Never cost me a cent. As to the common American assertion that taxes would have to go up to cover it: Your politicians and government accountants are doing a bad job for you. Marginal tax rates are very comparable in Canada and the US. Kick your politicians in the ass and MAKE them get you decent health care. Join the civilised world.
It baffles me that America doesn't take a look north of their border. I had cancer and with all the procedures and treatments done, there was no bill. If I were living in the States I'm certain I would have died.
@@BizlaC So the States is surrounded by health care examples and they still can't get their sh*t together?
We have more medical breakthroughs, it might be expensive but we have better doctors. Name the last medical breakthrough that didn’t come from America. Believe me it’s very few and far between. I do believe we need improvement but what the socialist countries have isn’t the answer!
@@jordanhg5221 Yes....lots of medical breakthroughs, yet when you said that, I automatically thought of Dr. Banting and Best from the University of Toronto and how many millions of people would have died if it weren't for their insulin studies. I also want to mention that I'm a retired Registered Nurse who attended a job fair in my final year of training. There were always lots of reps from American hospitals wanting Canadian RNs. Word had it that we were better trained although I can't verify it was true. Please don't misunderstand my response.....there's so much good in America and I have family and friends there. I'm not dissing the States.
Char Canuck Canada has invented and been part of many significant medical breakthroughs. And go to any hospital in Detroit and see how many Canadian nurses they have. Education and training are far better.
For the sake of giving a percentage from my salary each month, if it delivers to my healthcare and for those in the community then I am pleased to give it as my contribution. Universal care is the best way in a civilised society.
I'm a medical biller of a Texan doctor and I can confirm they all saying nothing but facts. Health care in USA is expensive af especially dental and ophthalmological
When I lived in Italy I had the rheumatoid arthritis in one of my heels for 10 years. I went to the hospital so many times to be checked till I managed somehow to walk again normally. I spent 0 euros. Now I live in London (UK) and I had small problems like tonsillitis, where I just spent £10 for the prescription. But if I had major problems, I would not spend any penny. God bless the European health service, so glad I do not live in the US.
as an american i also feel bad for you. "13% of each worker's wages up to a ceiling earnings level beyond which no more is paid. So if someone is earning the equivalent of US$30000, they pay about $330 a month of National Insurance." 13% of my wages per month is somewhere near 450 usd, that means id pay somewhere around 5k a year on health insurance to the NHS. i havent been to the doctor or needed any dental work or any other remotely large ticket item in like 10 years. that means i would have paid 50k over the last 10 years for healthcare that i get no control or say over. i am so fucking glad i live in the united states.
@@KPK75772 it doesnt help others. holding people accountable is what helps them. the NHS only results in healthcare that is lower quality and, in the end, more expensive as the message you replied to explained with simple math. what you did as a reply was to mention no facts at all and instead attack me as a person because you lack a cogent argument. believe me giacomo, of the two of us it is not i that is stupid.
@@KPK75772 lol? did you really just say your quality is the same? 11 of the worlds top 20 hospitals are in the united states......
that means 55% of the worlds best hospitals are in my country, but you think that your expensive socialist healthcare is better? by what metric? your feelings? lol dont be ridiculous dude. people fly to the united states from all over the world to receive medical care here. its becoming more and more obvious that you know nothing on this subject besides what your tv tells you.
@Cassettes/Records Analog/Digital Well, in the US you pay your taxes plus an extra for the healthcare. I paid my taxes in Italy and happy to pay when I know it goes also for the free healthcare.
@@KPK75772 you obviously dont know how this works lol. we are a capitalist nation. 99% of the population are "employees" and any of them that pay for private insurance (remember its cheaper for me to have 2 PPO's than pay for the "free" NHS healthcare) can walk in there and receive the best treatment on planet earth instantly for nothing out of pocket or a very very small co-pay. meanwhile you pay more to see worse doctors and youll have a line you have to wait in to see them. yea your healthcare sounds great. next youll tell me that europe has a better education system because thats what your overlords told you, even though on average more than 20% of europeans dont receive a highschool education. compared to like 8% in the united states and just like with hospitals we have more famous colleges and institutes in the united states than any other individual country on earth. you are fed lies by your socialist government to make you believe that their ineffective policies are working when they just fucking dont. europe is also the place where certain foods are banned because they are unhealthy but yet in europe you have double the smoking rate the united states does. yea sounds fucking fantastic.
Video title: "Americans guess the cost of British healthcare"... so in a 4¾ minute clip, exactly _ono_ person is asked to make a guess LOL
Haha, same I was waiting for more lol.
Yeah, it’s free.
We pay about 1/3 of salary in tax.
I have had 2 broken legs and a spine op.
World class work. 2 my wife had two babies. Same price. Free.
Amazing system. Oh, Brits invented capitalism - Adam Smith
We do the best of both.
did u really need to see more?
I recently retired as a cop after 30years. For my final decade I was paying over £4k per annum National Insurance. I'm now a part time school bus driver and because my salary is a fraction of what it was, and contributions are related to salary, I now pay less than £2 per month.
...and yet are entitled to as much health care as you need, free at the point of delivery. Great isn't it?
The nhs works two ways of you feel ill and get an early diagnosis your treatment cheaper and more effective. Which means that no worries about cost means recovery is better. That means you can return to work quicker and start contribute to the system.
My leg and arm cost over $250,000 to fix. Most (not all) was covered by insurance. I had to pay the $2,000 ambulance fee myself. Only part of the home health care was covered. As soon as I spent my 15 sessions (combined) for the year for physical and occupational therapy, I was screwed. This does not include the durable medical equipment (over $12,000 for things like wheelchairs, walkers, etc.) which also was out-of-pocket expenses not covered by my husband’s work insurance. Four years later, and my leg is crooked, not the same length as the other one, I still can’t walk up or down stairs normally, I still have a limp, I still don’t have full range of motion in my wrist or knee, I still have an extra bone fragment grating against the others in my wrist, my nose is still broken, etc. The accident was not my fault. Unless someone can show me proof as to why socialist medicine is so bad, I won’t believe it is worse than all this.
Insane. Even in Russia it would cost you nothing. Even in private hospital it would cost maximum a few thousands dollars. Ambulance is always free.
@@reym7140 seriously?!? Even Russia (a newer Capitalist country than USA) has a better system than we do? Wow! We need to step up our game!
What the hell is ambulance fee mate?? Omg 😱
Steampunkkids That's horrific and tragic for you. Why do you put up with this crap? "Socialist medicine" makes a wonderful concept sound negative. I think access to healthcare is a basic human right and its your form of capitalism that has somehow convinced Americans that even though you pay taxes, healthcare isn't something that your taxes should go towards.
@@hansiesma16 I agree that it is a travesty that Americans have been brain-washed to believe that socialized healthcare is not a basic human right. We also, apparently, don’t believe safe-drinking water is a basic human right either. It really is sad. But, we are brain-washed to be afraid of socialized medicine from birth. I’d love to move to a country with socialized medicine. I just can’t afford to move my family during a pandemic. Where do you think would be better for me?
A couple of years ago in the uk I had a suspected triple a, I got a double crewed ambulance and a fast response paramedic, straight into resus with everyone there plus an OR and surgical team on standby, turned out I had an infection and a previously unknown cystic structure, investigation into the cystic structure involved a CT scan and a number of case conferences with a whole bunch of consultant surgeons when the decision was that it was benign and there was no clinical reason to operate, total cost was £30 for a three month pre pay prescription certificate for all my medicines as the infection by the time it triggered pain had caused some inflammation and ongoing pain
Steven Bowers: Wow, impressive, thanks for sharing. And here, A group of jealous Americans will contradict you and make all kinds of argument on why that doesn't work. LOL, LOL, LOL,
@@12567NoYouCannot what's amazing is how many people in America don't realise that they pay more for public health per person than the UK does on public healthcare, the total spend for both public and private healthcare in the UK is just under 10% of GDP, the USA spends just under 18% of GDP on public and private healthcare
An even better fact is NHS Wales this would be completely free as prescriptions are free in Wales.
@@thwalesproductions subsidised by the rest of the UK!
Here is the grim reality. 40000+ US citizens die needlessly because they have no health insurance.
Want a smile? Canada has an NHS type of set up, maybe they are considered as polite communists/socialists!😁
I went to the E.R once when I was little because I swallowed a lego and it got lodged in my throat. On the car ride there it hurt to breathe or swallow.
We waited for almost an hour in a room to get looked at, and I got 1 X-ray to see where the lego was. It wasn't in my throat anymore and we were snet home with a 'good luck, just poop it out ig lol'
And it cost us a few hundred dollars, just for that.
X-ray staff and machinery isn't free to run.. why not let those who want to pay for insurance do so and those who prefer to risk having to pay for things only if anything goes wrong pay the price if they gamble wrong.
@@juliapigworthy because people can't choose the risk if they can't pay for insurance, and even if you DO then you still have to pay a good portion out of pocket. It's less expensive and saves more lives overall to use universal healthcare
So..that was it for you building up a fine lego- collection
Flipping heck that's alot money, I'm just glad I'm from and still in Blighty 🇬🇧 as I've heard from acquaintances in the 🇺🇸 who pay a ridiculous amount of money just for their medications and only have one medical condition (unlike myself with well over a dozen long term degenerative conditions/ diseases) and strongly suspect if it were not for the NHS I'd provably of have passed decades ago.
All of us across our world ought to be entitled to free health care
@@user-qg1jb8rw8e I agree. It's ridiculous really. I take ONE medication daily to help control my ADHD and just 30 days worth is nearly $300 (~212 GBD) without insurance! Luckily we have a good doctor, my mom is smart, and we have decent insurance that I'm still covered by, so we aren't charged for that medication.
But even with insurance just basic healthcare is so expensive! It's ridiculous how much money my parents have had to spend just for orthodontics and dentistry. And yet my dad is STILL against universal healthcare because he thinks its impossible and will practically 'enslave' taxpayers...
when i went to florida and somthing happened to my sister and I which we had to go to the Drs for. it cost us $400-1000 each. Im from the UK so this was crazy
Yeah I'm Canadian and have had a lot of health problems in the past. I remember once I had to get an ultrasound and my doctor spent like, 10 minutes apologising to me because it wasn't covered by insurance and we had to pay about $100 for it. Even then, he tried his hardest to let us know every option we could take that wouldn't cost us a cent. It just baffles me how much I'd have to pay for this stuff if I lived in the states.
I live in Germany, used to live in Canada. I also laugh inside when a doc apologises for suggesting something not covered. It's usually not more than 100€ 🤣
I couldn’t afford a bottle of expensive iron pills $86 after I almost died - I needed my iron levels up. Doctor gave me 3 sample packs that would last 3 months for free so I didn’t have to buy them at all lol
I have Cystic Fibrosis and a genetic heart defect. I spent my first birthday and Christmas in hospital and spend about 2-3 months in hospital every year due to my conditions. I'm 29 now and will need a lung transplant soon. I can't work but get my prescriptions (which there are a lot of) thankfully free. If I was American I don't think I would have seen my second birthday. Thanks NHS. ❤️
When I broke my collarbone I went to the hospital where they decided it might grow back by itself,
so I got 11 days sick leave with no loss in salary.
When I returned to the hospital, they decided an operation was needed after all.
I spent in total three nights before and after the surgery, and was sent home (all travel expences
to and from already payed to my private bankaccount, ofcourse) where I had 21 days of sick leave, payed.
During the surgery they put in a steel bar and screws, that had to be removed later,
meaning another surgery and two nights at the hospital.
Not to mention when I had a heart attack, was picked up by ambulance w/doc and nurse,
sent via chopper w/new doc and nurse and pilots, landed on the hospital helipad,
wheeled straight in to the OR where the team was scrubbed and ready to go.
Or the birth of my two children.
Or the one year payed paternity leave I got when my daughter was born, as well as when my son came two years later.
*Total cost: 0,-*
*Taxes: Way less than I would pay in medical insurance alone in the US.*
"Healtcare for all" is no more socialism than a bridge or tunnel.
"Healtcare for all" is however a given in any civilized society.
I don't write this to gloat, but because I have dear friends and family living in America.
I wish for them the same freedom and opportunities that I have.
To worry if your kids will be taken care of by health professionals if anything should happen,
no matter your financial situation at the time, is a burden no father or mother should have to carry.
PS: Last week I received a letter from the health dep, saying I had payed more than USD 260,- in
different medical supplies and prescription drugs this year, and that the amount above USD 260,-
had been returned to my account.
They also provided me with a card that I simply show at any pharmacy or at the doctors office
for the rest of the year, to get my medication or treatment for free.
Ordinarily I receive the card by february or march, but what can I say, it's been a good year.
I’m an American living in South Korea that just had to go through a good friend being hospitalized for what we thought could be appendicitis. An ambulance call (she couldn’t walk without severe pain), consultation, multiple blood tests, X-Rays and 3D X-rays, a COVID test, and eventual hospitalization for one day and night, along with antibiotics, painkillers, and hydration via IV drip, all came out to $176.
Meanwhile my family back home continues to pay off the debt of a critical surgery my father had *five years ago*. After declaring bankruptcy on our house, of course…
Why didn’t your father have insurance? It sounds like he is deeply irresponsible and didnt plan properly for emergencies. It’s a shame that you have such irresponsible parents.
@@fatherson5907 It sounds like not everyone can afford insurance. If everyone could afford insurance, we wouldn't have the NHS.
@@oskarz sounds like the NHS can’t provide adequate level of care. If it could, why is private care even necessary?
@@fatherson5907 the NHS can absolutely provide an adequate level of of essential care, if not better than private healthcare.
where private thrives is the ability to have more flexibility and lower waiting times for non-essential treatment, however if you are willing to wait a bit then the NHS is absolutely fine. it’s a matter of convenience, as the quality of actual healthcare (non-essential) is similar.
>"My broken collar bone cost $5000"
>"But I've got good insurance, it covered most of that"
>"My share was just under $3000"
*confused Jackie Chan face*
I wonder if he understands what "Most of" means? Just in case, I have a bridge he might want to buy...Really Cheap!
The consultation cost $5000, I think that $3000 share was for the treatment they had after.
And that wasn't even for treatment apparently
Ikr, I felt so bad for the guy
Imagine thinking you have a great insurance because you "only" paid $3000, what a fucked country
I'd rather pay a little at a time into a healthcare system and not need it then need it and have to pay a lot of money in one go.
exactly! especially when you hear cancer patients sometimes having to pay a million dollars
@@Katie-B Millions? 😱😨😰😳🤯😠
@@Katie-B My friend in America is currently facing a potential cancer scare and she's more worried about the cost of the treatment than the treatment itself!
@@tsu8003 is she able to get health insurance now? I dont understand how it works but that sounds terrifying that she is more scared of the price :(
@@fabolvaskarika7940 unfortunately
I live in Ontario Canada, a few years ago my Wife had bowel Cancer and it was successfully operated on, COST!!! nothing no bill the only thing I had to pay for was the Hospital parking lot to pick her up.
I know you’re not complaining but I easily paid $500 in parking going to the hospital in my sons first year. Feel very grateful he got great care for free here in Ontario. Also not complaining. Thrilled we only pay parking!
How much does everyone pay in national insurance contributions over a lifetime even if they never use a hospital? Maybe they'd rather fund their own personal health insurance or take the risk of paying nothing and having to stump up more if anything happens while uninsured.
By all means make health insurance compulsory just like it is to travel abroad, but state controlled health services should be one option among many other competing insurance options, not a state-controlled monopoly with compulsory payments.
@@juliapigworthy it doesn't get split out on our taxes so hard to say how much one would pay over their life time. It's one of a few services that our provincial taxes pay for.
It's strange to me you feel so strongly about always having a choice in policy. We have a policy that covers everything but drugs, vision, dental and we can buy coverage for those. So we don't question why there is no private option. This seems to be a very American thing.
Based on conversations I've had with Brits, Swedes, Germans, Australians and others, nobody with a public health system is pining for more choice.
My Dad got a double lung transplant 5 years ago. He was on the wait list for only 10 days. Cost to him was $0. New lungs work great. Doctors and nurses were great. His follow-up care is excellent even five years on. We're not asking ourselves "If only there was another option?"
@@mattym8 I'm British and my mum has benefitted from NHS treatment after a stroke years ago. I don't lament the NHS itself, rather I lament that it's a compulsory payment rather than having competition to drive standards higher and prices lower. Ditto for pensions, we should be able to use the state offering, or opt for a private fund.
@@juliapigworthy that’s the same argument people make for education. Why should I pay for public education when I go to a private school? Do you want to live in an educated society where economic mobility is bad (even though that’s where we are headed)? Do you want a two tier system where the wealthy get the best and the rest get worse? Wouldn’t a system used by all be better so the wealthy fight to keep it good quality?
I currently have a viral chest infection. (UK Based British citizen) Spoke to my NHS GP Surgery at 3pm. Appointment to see a Nurse Practitioner at 4.30. Consultation and examination took place in the local GP Surgery. The Nurse Practitioner decided I needed Antibiotics. She then emailed my prescription to the local pharmacy and by 5.30, I had the Antibiotics , all free of charge because of my age!! All sorted within 2 and a half hours of initial contact. God bless our NHS !!!
Over 40% of cancer patients in the UK are forced to wait over two months for urgent treatment.
Over 10 million in England alone are waiting for surgery for years.
Ambulance wait times in the UK are currently over 60 minutes.
The NHS is a complete joke.
NHS 💙
@@Taketheredpill891 nhs 💩
@@fatherson5907 Be nice
@@fatherson5907 watch your words kid
I'm in Scotland and I broke my arm in February. I had to wait for hours in agonising pain before an ambulance could take me to hospital. The healthcare I received after getting to the hospital has been superb though. I am thankful and praise the NHS as they do a fantastic job and don't get enough recognition.
We have faster wait times but that's because everyone is hesitant to use the services due to the cost
@@foolishmuleth6757 And I think THAT is not true at all. These people who do a fantastic job deserve much better than what yous are giving.
I will continue to praise them because they do a superb job and folks don’t give them enough credit.
@@foolishmuleth6757 What does it cost?
Nothing as it’s paid for by the National government.
@@ColinGilbert24 I think FoolishMuleth is an American commenting on his own country's system.
Friend of mine broke his arm and his wife drove him to the hospital. In your case, ambulances perhaps were dealing with urgent cases...
i can't imagine the level of anxiety caused by being too poor for insurance in the US. Medical bills do not discriminate and injuries happen to people at random, removing their ability to pay for the treatment. It's like a form of non-consentual gambling where you get ever so slightly increased monthly wage *until you have something happen to you requiring hospitalization then you're totally fucked forever*
Had a very minor procedure today. Waited 8 weeks, which I had no problem with as it wasn’t a massive issue. Appointment was at 3. Arrived slightly early and they were ready. 3 hours later back at home having paid for only my prescription for something in America that would have cost $600. I am more than happy to pay NI and fair taxes, of course I’d like a bit more money for myself but at the end of the day the NHS has always been there for me and I want it to be there for everyone else. Even today, in the middle of a pandemic, I was seen early and the staff were amazing all and sorted in three hours. Makes me proud to be British.
"13% of each worker's wages up to a ceiling earnings level beyond which no more is paid. So if someone is earning the equivalent of US$30000, they pay about $330 a month of National Insurance." 13% of my wages per month is somewhere near 450 usd, that means id pay somewhere around 5k a year on health insurance to the NHS. i havent been to the doctor or needed any dental work or any other remotely large ticket item in like 10 years. that means i would have paid 50k over the last 10 years for healthcare that i get no control or say over. if that seems like fair taxes then you do you lol. i am so fucking glad i live in the united states. i pay about 350 usd a month on my PRIVATE insurance that gets me access to a phenomenal network of doctors and ive never had to pay more than like 100 usd out of pocket for care just like you, only my care is much nicer as my privatized insurance gets the best doctors on its network by offering them more money than the competition. if i lived in your country i likely wouldnt be able to pay for my kids college due to that 5k a year theyd be stealing, so glad i dont live in britain.
@@jjjj-cy3vz I pay zero on my health insurance and still covered by universal healthcare lol. If your healthcare system is such a good one, why do Americans even travel to Mexico, a third world country for treatment? Oh yea because the American healthcare system is ass.
@@jjjj-cy3vz Funny how you think the British or any European countries pay for college or healthcare. It’s covered and subsidised by the government lol
@@jjjj-cy3vz You are very lucky to have that insurance plan, average price of health insurance in the USA is just over USD7000 a year, if we take how much the average UK citizen would pay in NI it is 2810.6 GBP, or about 3,288 USD per year. As you can see, far lower. Of course if you earn Above average salary you will be paying more, as with tax, but the average citizen doesn't. I would also like to point out that if for any reason someone loses their job, or is unable to work, they DO NOT PAY ANYTHING and still receive the same care as someone who does. This also applies to children reducing the burden on parents. If the US system is so great, there wouldn't be people who have died because they cannot afford treatment, people who have later stages of diseases such as cancer because they are scared of the medical bill, and people who have lost their job due to illness, lost their insurance because of this, and died because they cannot afford the inflated prices of healthcare. You would have thought the greatest country in the world would have the highest ranked healthcare, it doesn't. It sits below over 20 other countries, pretty much all of which have universal healthcare.
@@JustCont lol what? the national average monthly health insurance cost in the united states is $456 which is $5472 annually, not $7000.
so now onto your other bit. do you know why healthcare is so heavily inflated in the united states? because your countries highly regulate the prices you will pay for medications, which means that all of the costs for the research and development for those medications ends up falling back on the way less regulated american peoples. americans are literally subsidizing your healthcare.
as to the "It sits below over 20 other countries, pretty much all of which have universal healthcare." yea and one of those countries is canada. meanwhile canadians come to the united states for healthcare to avoid their 6 month wait times to see a general practitioner. cuba also has an equivalent life expectancy to the uk according to international health ratings. how is this possible? because each country reports on their own health statistics and most of them lie.
"people who have later stages of diseases such as cancer because they are scared of the medical bill" this doesnt happen. the united states has many robust treatment centers for advanced diseases and most of them are donation or tax funded. again the united states tax payer pays for most of the modern day medical innovation in the west.
to make my point, the united states has 144.1 deaths per 100,000 population whereas the uk has 266 deaths per 100,000. if the NHS is so great then why is your cancer mortality rates nearly double the united states?
"and people who have lost their job due to illness, lost their insurance because of this"
this also doesnt happen unless your just dumb. we have a little something referred to as workers rights in the united states. if you get sick enough that you need to go to the hospital then you take medical leave at work and then use your insurance to get care, then you get better and go back to work. with your description of how the united states works the country would have fallen apart due to sickness along time ago.
so in summary most of this is just incorrect and based entirely on socialist propaganda in order to make you believe that socialist systems are superior. no country has ever succeeded under socialist systems.
Anybody who thinks the NHS is free, has completely lost the plot!
And they keep saying something about being the greatest country in the world... laughable!
You have me there... I keep wondering what they mean by "greatest". Of course in other countries, you find people that want to come to America! For all the opportunities that can be accomplished.
It is the best country in the world we still have more freedom than any other county!
Free health doesn’t make you a great county! The fact that you can make anything of yourself and social class doesn’t matter is what makes it the greatest county!
@@jordanhg5221 You can do that in most european countries too lol and we have health insurance on top of it
@@jordanhg5221 No we don't. I have just as much freedom in Japan as I did in the US. However, the US has way more gun crime than virtually every other developed country, is 1st or 2nd in obesity, not even in the top 25 for national IQ, more aircraft carriers than the next 16 countries combined, wasted Billions on new aircraft (F22 and F35) when the F15 has STILL never even lost a dogfight yet, has an ungodly incarceration rate, a national drug problem... Hell, even Cuba has a lower homicide rate than the US. What can you do in the US that I cannot do in Japan?
I broke my arm and passed out and had to have 100 stictcheds in my head and neck and my health care bill was £0
Thank you NHS 💙🤍💙🤍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
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If I do end up suffering I’ll go to the NHS thank you very much 💙💙
But as a working Brit look at your wage slip look for NATIONAL INSURANCE you have been paying
@@lloydfrancis9149 yeah I payed £3,000 last year national insurance and I worth every penny
But even if I couldn’t pay I would still receive my health care 💙💙💙💙💙
@@oasis4life014 how often do you get care? once every 10 years? once every 20? im talking big ticket items not checkups. im willing to bet that your average person goes 10 years or longer without needing it on average and that means youve thrown 30k down the drain HOPING your GOVERNMENT is using it correctly. god help you.
I snapped my ankle in bits and the nhs said if I wasn’t going to get treatment I would probably get arthritis at 13, goddam I’m lucky my mom pats taxes and the nhs got me into a operation 2 days later. I’m running in some sports now 🙂😀😄
The NHS is not free! We pay for it with our taxes! We pay! It’s free at point of use - big difference!
Yes, free at the point of access.
My parents spent a week in Cancun to fix my mother's teeth. Stayed at a resort, spent half what it would have cost in the States.
Stonks
That is so depressing.
Craziness, so glad I live in the UK. God bless the NHS, and especially during these tough times ❤️🙏
The NHs has performed terribly during the pandemic. The doctors and nurses of that garbage system should be in prison.
Don't bother, Father son is a liar and a troll.
@@fatherson5907 Better to have people die at home because they cant afford treatment hey?
@@fatherson5907 don’t break your neck 😘
USA citizen. I went to the emergency room for the first time. My mind was blown when I got the first bill...then the second came. I didn't even need a surgery or treatment.
When I visited New York I dislocated my shoulder and in the emergency room they helped me to put it in, it only took all in all 30 minutes but the weird thing was that they really pushed the pain medication pills, I said I didn't need it because I wasn't in so much pain but they kept pushing and pushing and insisted that I would need it. I declined and they actually got a bit angry. After that all happened they presented my with a bill over $4500 and on the bill still were the painkillers when I didn't even used them, I made them take it off the bill and they got even more angry, they said I was a difficult patient. But I admit that the doctor did a good job putting my shoulder in without much pain.
My insurance in the Netherlands covered everything, I didn't have to pay a dime.
I can't understand why Americans have never demanded their own version of the N.H.S.
Haven't any of your political parties promoted it as an option for Americans to vote for?
I'd imagine it would be a landslide if they did.
@@TonyEnglandUK Not even close, unfortunately. That's just not how politics work in the United States. In short, Americans don't decide which party to vote for based on the issues that the party supports; rather, the voters decide whether or not they, themselves, support any given issue based on which party likes it. It's tribalism to the max.
"Obamacare". It is a word that lives in myth, legend, and infamy in the United States.
In 2010, President Obama wanted to implement universal healthcare. No Republicans supported it. The bill was watered down to try to gain Republican support, causing it not to be truly universal, but it was still a step in the right direction. Ultimately, Obama was betrayed by Republicans that had promised support if he watered it down. Not a single one voted for it, meaning that Obama had settled on less than true universal healthcare essentially for no reason.
The Democrats had control at the time and were able to ram it through Congress on a party-line vote.
The reaction was instantaneous and apoplectic. There was histrionic talk in the convervative media about how "death panels" would be rationing care. Conservatives breathlessly huffed that this was the beginning of "socialized medicine" in the United States, and "Socialism is bad, mmmkay?"
This is actually the event that birthed the so-called "Tea Party" movement in the Republican party. In the 2012 mid-term election, Democrats suffered a massive defeat, losing their majority. Republicans became OBSESSED with repealing Obamacare, to the point that it was all they talked about for most of the remainder of the 2010s decade. When Trump became president, his main objective was to undo everything that Obama had done, starting with Obamacare.
However, Obamacare had settled in and taken root by then. It had done certain things like expanding Medicare, which had allowed tens of millions of Americans to get health insurance. It had also ended exlusions for "pre-existing conditions" that had previously prevented millions from accessing healthcare at all, even with private insurance. The public was NOT in favor of getting rid of these provisions, so the Republicans were forced to relent at the precipice of repeal because they knew that to fully repeal would have been suicide for them. Thus, Obamacare simply limped along -- nobody loved it, but nobody dared to try to euthanize it.
Obamacare later suffered a serious structural defeat in the courts, however. It included an individual mandate saying that all people had to get health insurance or pay a tax penalty. The purpose of this was to expand the risk pool to include as many healthy people as possible, driving down costs for the sickest who utilize healthcare the most. This was the single most unpopular thing about Obamacare and a successful legal challenge eventually resulted in a court striking down the individual mandate. In most of the states in the US, healthcare is now back to being "optional" instead of mandatory, and this provision is very popular with the public in most of the US. There are currently, I believe, 5 of the 50 states that still have an individual mandate for health insurance, though. All are states where Democrats dominate local politics.
@@StochasticUniverse In the 16 Opinium polls of _"What is the most-loved aspect of British society?"_ the NHS positioned first in 15 of them.
Can I just point out that our NHS in the UK is free at the point of contact, but it's paid for indirectly through our National Insurance that is taken straight from our wages.
Same in Canada
Point is that I'm fine with it if it means we keep universal healthcare
"13% of each worker's wages up to a ceiling earnings level beyond which no more is paid. So if someone is earning the equivalent of US$30000, they pay about $330 a month of National Insurance." 13% of my wages per month is somewhere near 450 usd, that means id pay somewhere around 5k a year on health insurance to the NHS. i havent been to the doctor or needed any dental work or any other remotely large ticket item in like 10 years. that means i would have paid 50k over the last 10 years for healthcare that i get no control or say over. you guys get mad ripped off by your system. not only does it end up being more expensive on every individual that doesnt need constant care, it also reduces competition amongst doctors which leads to lower wages which leads to you having inferior medical staff and wait times for care. whereas privatized insurance drives doctors wages up as the insurance companies have to compete with each other to get that doctor on their insurance network which results in the finest doctors flocking here in order to earn more coin. its really quite a simple decision for us here in the united states.
Of course it is and it works for the most part, but in the States they are fleeced numerous times over. Pay medical insurance (check) insurance top ups (check) more top ups (check) SKINT then DEAD
@@jjjj-cy3vz - here is the man who knows the price of everything but the value of nothing.
You are not paying your contributions ONLY FOR YOURSELF. Society is not individualistic - cannot be, should not be. It is collective, and that is what our NI (and other taxation) is - collective.
There will come a time in your life when you will need the services that your - and everyone else - contributions have paid for. You will be thankful for that.
And a corporation didn't profit from you in the process either.
@@diamon999 you make alot of assumptions here with no facts behind them whatsoever. what is the issue with a corporation benefiting from selling me a product as long as i benefit from that product becoming better due to the competition between said corporations? all you have done with the NHS is guarantee that the corporation that has a FULL monopoly on your healthcare system (your government) is able to give you whatever care they deem you worthy of and then charge whatever price they want to for the service because you have no other healthcare options.
it is not my job to pay for some fuckin deadbeat that refuses to work or to supply a junkie with narcan. if you dont like that then too bad, go use somebody elses money.
also i am willing to bet that i give WAY more money than you do to charity, as i am one of the few individuals in the world that gives 10% of their income as tithe that i pay directly to religious charities, so dont be trying to preach to me about giving to society. i will give my money to those who are actually in need of that money and not to inner-city junkies and gangbangers.
In aus I had my hand reset, xrayed 3 times, got free painkillers and a personal hand mould to make sure it stays.......I payed $0.
As it should be, WORLDWIDE!
@@iamrocketray unicorns for all 🤦
@Poolie Hpool it comes out of taxes. Medicare amount varies and is paid depending on tax bracket. The least amount ive paid is $650 as a single childless person on $50k a year. My ex husband earned 6 figures and family of 5 and we paid less than $2000 for the year. Its well worth every cent 100%. If you are on or below a low income threshhold you pay no levvy. I wouldnt have our health system in australia any other way!
Most australians love medicare. We take care of each other instead of only being out for ourselves. Its the aussie way.
@@Pancakepanda903 You're taking care of each other, rather than bankrolling a bloated insurance industry. As it should be!
Same in every European country.
Important to note that Health care in the UK is free at the point of service. It is paid for through taxes. It is not "Totally Free". This sadly isn't possible in any economy in the world.
It’s free to use whenever you need it, but yes- it is funded by central government
Important thing is, healthcare in The UK is not only for the affluent.
Better to create a better Health Care , than making weapons of Destruction.
@@imachunt653 America could halve it's military budget and still have the world's biggest military and the money saved could easily kick start a national health service for the people it claims to be defending.
@@imachunt653 Which enemies? Who is going to invade the United States and kill you all? What is the point of all your wealth if you're always afraid of the world?
@@thecockerel86 they are not that rich, most live pay check to pay check. Look at the lines at the food banks in recent weeks. And the man who has the shoulder issue, he said he had very good insurance and just for the Dr to look at it was 5 k, and it cost him 3k. And he still said his insurance was good. The Americans economy is based on military research and development and production of killing machines or things to deliver them. The most stupid nation on the planet.
@@wanngie1 The people interviewed here may not be rich but they live in a very rich country. They collectively choose to spend the wealth on militarism and supporting and bailing out the rich instead of the majority of their citizens. And the citizens have been brainwashed through the decades to accept that this state of affairs is normal, that they must refuse any help from their government so their bosses and elites can continue with their lives of luxury. It is fascinating, but also horrifying to watch from a distance. It's like looking at a very beautifully patterned but super poisonous snake.
@@imachunt653 Well aren't you paranoid. You do realize that the US is the only country that constantly is making enemies and waging war. The countries in Europe have grown up and know that war doesn't benefit anyone.
The thing is, there are also private health care companies in Europe. Those still cost a fraction of what in US. I still find those expensive, I don't use them but it's not like there isn't options for universal healthcare users in those countries. I think it's the universal health care system that keeps the prices down because they know if they raise the prices too high everyone are gonna use the state health services instead.