What Does U.S. Health Care Look Like Abroad? | NYT Opinion
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- Опубликовано: 21 май 2024
- Byzantine health plans. Impoverishing deductibles. Exorbitant drug costs. Soul-crushing surprises lurking in the fine print.
The American health care system is - to put it mildly - totally perplexing, an exercise in patience and a test of financial resilience.
And that’s for its participants.
So imagine what the system must look like to people from other countries, especially those with universal health care, where citizens don’t live in fear that the next bout of the sniffles might somehow lead to bankruptcy.
In the video above, we gathered people from around the world and introduced them to the American health care system. We presented them with dizzying examples of insurance plan options. We showed them how much medical services cost. And we revealed some of the survival strategies of the tens of millions of Americans who are uninsured (drug purchases in Mexico, GoFundMe campaigns, consultations with “Dr. Google”).
Their reaction? Astonishment, horror, anger and disgust.
One woman spoke about intensive care she received as a child in Britain to treat a brain virus. “All for free,” she recalled. “I couldn’t have survived if I was in America.”
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Hi! I'm Chai, a producer on this video. Before making this piece, I thought I knew a lot about American healthcare but was shocked by a number of things we researched.
Would love to hear from you all on what surprised you the most in this video.
I need thyroid hormones to survive and regular tests to make sure I'm at right dosage. Lost mycoverage and an office visit to pcp is $100, then labs are $40, then my medication is between $35-$60. Rinse and repeat every 6weeks. And weight gain plus other health issues it's miserable
Can you link the video that you showed them?
Really cool video! I’m writing a 20 page essay on Medical Debt and U.S healthcare for a college course, and I am also amazed about how little I knew and how complicated the system has become. Thanks again!
Lack information and knowledge. NYT say that about themselves just ask James O'Keefe.
You should do a even longer video about the absolute insane issues (for me as a German) like that it cost money for Ambulance to collect you and that people who are dying would rather have a taxi.
The USA is the most developed third world country.
US does not have universal healthcare, bullet trains, and free WiFi everywhere. It is a reflection of how decent we are as a society.
Even some third world countries have universal healthcare and paid maternity leave.
@@reevomd8056 me being from a country that "lost a cold war" I was surprised when my friend from the US couldn't go to the hospital because she said she can't afford it and she was surprised when I said we have free wifi coverage literally everywhere outside and people in reality pay like less than 10$ a month for a 100MB/s internet at home and 20-30$ for up to 1TB/s.
Actually The US has the Acela Express and we have Free Public Wifi In many Public Places
Canada or Australia doesn’t have a bullet train at least.
Yeah and it’s strange that so many People Immigrate to this Country every Year America is the Immigrant Capital of the World mostly be developing third world countries
In the US owning a gun is a right but staying alive isn't.
And unlike Switzerland they even PAY for a gun
It should be other way around. Healthcare, affordable education. That is this day. Right to bear arms? Way outdated thing to have.
Pretty stupid anolgy, They'll still save you, but you have to pay
@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 Stupid analogy, how could they pay in the first place if it costs $100,000?
@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 SAD BUT TRUE
The exorbitant cost of healthcare in America is a result of several complex factors. Firstly, the country's fragmented healthcare system leads to inefficiencies and administrative overheads, with multiple layers of bureaucracy and paperwork increasing expenses. Additionally, the high prices of medical services, pharmaceuticals, and equipment contribute significantly to healthcare costs, fueled by a lack of price transparency and competition. Moreover, the prevalence of costly medical procedures, defensive medicine practices, and a fee-for-service payment model further drive up expenses. Addressing these systemic issues and promoting reforms focused on efficiency, affordability, and accessibility is crucial to mitigate the burden of healthcare costs on individuals and the economy...
I would Support you on this one because I'm a doctor for 10years now Deeply understand. However, To address this issue, policymakers must prioritize reforms aimed at streamlining the healthcare system, increasing price transparency, and promoting value-based care delivery models to ensure affordability and accessibility for all Americans.
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NYT was incredibly hostile to Bernie Sanders, the one candidate that was serious about universal healthcare.
First they need to fix the Healthcare systems price gouging, then implement universal healthcare.
this is classic for corporate media - they publish all sorts of pieces about a problem, but never how to fix it. and when a politician or activist comes along with a solution, which necessarily disrupts business as usual, the smear and distortion campaign is cranked to the max. Every problem that Bernie had a plan to fix, guaranteed Vox has a smart little video explaining it and how bad it is. if you actually care about these problems like liberals claim to do, they wouldn't be liberals. they would be socialists.
@@Miabalzitch I was wondering since a long time. There are reports about the bad infrastructure, public transport, urban planning, the prison system, the education system, and yes, the health care system ... but nobody is changing anything.
@@krollpeter The ones that are profiting from it all are the ones bankrolling the politicians save but a few. Do you expect any real change any time soon?
@@Acadia26 Looking at how Mr. Bidens initiatives to improve infrastructure are shaved off, no. 2024 America will be deciding, and I fear it will be a very bad decision many people will take.
The inventor of insulin would be heartbroken to learn what they've done with his invention. He sold the patent for $1 so that the medication would be cheap to produce so more human lives could be saved.
Lol what a dummy, he could have made billions!
@@Skibbityboo0580 but he didn't want to profit at the expense of human lives. He had morals and values and was one of the greatest people in history.
@@Skibbityboo0580 attitudes like this are exactly why the US has the healthcare system it does today.
@@alsinakiria My thing is saying the quiet part out loud in conservative speak to make them look like idiots.
@@Skibbityboo0580 so basically, you just do a sarcasm...
charging money to hold the baby is absolutely evil.
Isn't that classed as ransom? "You can't have this person, unless you pay me money".
Yeah, skin to skin contact directly after birth is really important for the attachment to kickstart. This is insane.
Why do they even charge for that? I'm so shocked to hear this. What a messed up system to even charge something like this.
Maybe that's why many women want to give birth at home? And also you have to pay 15k dollars to even give birth. As if your child is worth 15k!! Don't put prices on people.
Eeeeeeeeeeviiiiiiiiilllllll
The maddening thing about this is most of the money doesn’t even go to the nurses and doctors, but to the companies and the hospitals and the businessmen running them. Nurses and doctors there don’t even get paid enough to pay off their student debt
Yeah I mean your student debts are way too high too. I studied for 4 years here in switzerland and all it took me to finance it is a summer job of 4 weeks every summer. sure if you want to study somewhere away from your parents house, the cost of living would be a lot more but even then we have a lot of financial aids if you really can't cover it
That’s because big pharma owns it all. The med schools the insurance companies the drugs everything goes to them
@@Jana-kl3dpAmerica has been taken over by the elites and the government is no longer a republic. The Elites now in control of the people because love of the money and failure to remember Gods law. The children were forgotten like the warning said
Student debt is another very American thing
@@AndresSalazarAutos another thing to destroy your country with
I am diabetic and I was admitted to the hospital in Denmark with ketoacidosis because I had an infection. After a weeks worth of hospital time I was released into the wild, healthy and I didn't have to pay a single krone. In America I would have surely died.
You was realest into the wild, probably forest , where you did clime a tree.IN America , you would " surely died " and that is for SURE . Please , stay in Denmark and do not forget to claim your 2 month paid vacation .
@@martinko4086 It's only 6 weeks paid vacation, so nothing crazy :)
No... because you would have paid for health insurance , like many other Americans.
@@markanthony3275 In Denmark medical treatment is free. Free in the sense that we pay by tax. We pay a lot in tax, but most people can easily afford that. In Denmark it is very difficult to buy a gun. Most people dont really need a gun, because most people solve conficts by discussion, or going to court. In Denmark when you vote, the votes are not wasted if your party gets less votes than the party that gets the most. Why is it Americans fight one another? "It is not what America can do for you!,,". Why did you stop listening to JFK?
@@pumpdumpster Well for starters...Denmark is a tiny little country. So it's very easier to address social problems. America has a vast area and a vast population , so it's difficult to address social problems. Also, like most Scandinavian countries, Denmark never really had the diversity that America had...Denmark has a uniformity of culture, although maybe not as much as Sweden for example. America does not have a uniformity of culture in the sense that people from Alabama are not like people from Alaska, and neither of them are like people from New York. One more important distinction...Americans are free ...to disagree with each other...the Scandinavian countries, as it was explained to me...never experienced feudalism. This has had the effect, historians have argued, of producing a culture that places NO value on civic freedoms...and in effect ...produces a phenomenon called "group think". That can be good or bad , it depends what swings their opinion. In Sweden, and I know Sweden is not Denmark, Olaf Palme wanted to get Swedes to agree to switch from burning lignite coal, to nuclear power...so he and some scientists, fabricated the Acid Rain scare...and that's a documentable FACT that you can find in Rupert Darwall's book "Green Tyranny: Exposing the Totalitarian Roots of the Climate Industrial Complex" (2019). Palme told the Swedes "100,000 lakes are dying right now" ...and to a person, the Swedes fell for it ...and they all uniformly agreed to what Palme wanted because there is no culture of questioning and scepticism...and that's also a documented fact. That is the key difference between Scandinavia and America...Americans do NOT have "group mind" so they have scepticism about many things, and that also can be good and bad...but mostly, it has preserved them. I look at the undeniable evidence that any man on the street can see for himself...If people say America is such a terrible place, then why are other people constantly doing everything possible to get into America. Why are they not fighting and doing everything possible to get into Denmark??? A friend of mine married a Norwegian woman...and has been in Norway for twenty plus years. he describes Norway, with it's neatly planned out society and social programs...everything working smoothly and to a "T," as "pleasant incarceration". He has wanted to leave for a long time but Hilldy can't leave mommy.
The worst part is that if you showed a lot of Americans these people’s reactions and stories they straight up wouldn’t believe them. Americans have been propagandized to the point were they literally believe that a better system isn’t possible and any example of one is a lie that conceals some secret cost.
capitalist realism. extremely real, but also extremely saddening.
Oh we believe these stories, because we LIVE them.
@@soyesayucateca9557 OP meant Republican supporters.
You’re describing Republicans, they no longer qualify as Americans. They’re some sort of neo confederate insane deathcult at this point.
True! Americans are brainwashed and they don‘t know the difference between capitalism, communism, socialism and social democracy. I live in Germany and I have a lot of Americans co-workers and friends who live in Germany. They literally don’t know what Social Democracy is. The always thought that Germany is a socialist country. So whenever they figure it out and start to realize that they believed the lies of their politicians, all of them decide to stay in Europe for good. They don’t want to go back to the US.
Yes, the US is by far the richest country in the world but the average citizens are not the richest. Only the elite get all their money. Everyone else is actually living their worst lifes possible.
Imagine "Ma'am would you like to hold your baby for an extra $40?" and then coming up with the card machine.
In the rest of the world we call this kidnapping and asking for a ransom
More like you arrive at home and get the bill.
@@imme6954 so extra step slavery. Because your going into debt for basically giving birth and wanting to hold your baby. You don’t even get to enjoy your little angel until you pay the check.
Or in some cases insuring employees in the hospital gets to enjoy the local ICU as they get their heads bashed in by irate family members to the baby.
"Budget or straight?", baby crying in the background
I believe NO COUNTRY except US hold baby as ransom when they were born.
I'm from Indonesia, an unnoticeable 3rd-world country, i complaining about this country so much, until 5yrs ago my mother had a tumor in her ovaries but gladly she's okay now, and the bills from hospital is just parking ticket.. I now learn how to being grateful and love this country..
I know right? Like I complain about this country every day, but after seeing US deeper, I am definitely thankful of our universal healthcare (#BPJS), automatic voter registration, and affordable public university, with all it flaws, which all of it are major problem in US, a first-world country
@@sriwidiani4370 bersyukur di atas penderitaan orang lain?
Bener banget. Kita mungkin bukan negara terbaik dan masih punya banyak kekurangan. Setidaknya kita harus mendoakan memiliki pemimpin yang ingin membangun negeri ini lebih baik lagi. Karena mau lihat ke negara manapun, tidak ada negara yang sempurna.
@@sriwidiani4370 US was 1st world country. US Is Now Considered a ‘Second Tier’ Country
But what Indonesia needs is to train many of its medical staff better and start letting foreign specialists visit for training. Too many GPs here are too inexperienced, over prescribe and misdiagnose. it is probably better in Jakarta, but not in many other areas.
“No society can legitimately call itself civilised if a sick person is denied medical aid because of lack of means” Aneurin Bevan.
americans who watch people die because they couldn't afford healthcare:
"weLL thEY sHoUldVe WoRkEd HArDeR"
Or "wElL, ThEy ShOuLd HaVe JuSt BeEn BoRn In A wEaLtHiEr FaMiLy!"
ThEY ShOuLD haVE Just BeEN BorN wITHoUT TeRMiNAL illnESSEs
God I hate that argument so much. I just met someone recently that said: "America, where welfare is distributed to the wrong people, lazy people." Like jesus christ how can the concept of being born into poverty be so alien to these idiots
Should have bought and gun and gone and taken it...my right. Facepalm
@@ideeyes4054 theY sHouLD HaVe jUSt BEen boRN In gErmAnY
"A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members."
I think someone misheard "weakest" as "richest"...
How can America the greatest nation In the world Not insure the entire citizenry when she has money to go to war overseas.
America must use her intelligence to ensure the health of the entire nation.
A nation needs healthy population so that they can be productive for today and posterity.
@@jamesbedukodjograham5508 not greatest
@Haku Yuki Shouldn't have weakened them.
Yeah I like supporting drug users, some people should move out. This video is a liberal joke. You think doctors and nurses work for $15 an hour. Their medical insurance is free. The cost of college is $2500 a quarter. Keep drinking the liberal free koolaid
I had a friend in the US whose husband was seriously for several years before he died and by then the medical bills were so great that Patti had to sell their home in order to pay even some of them. She was reduced to living in her car, where she died alone of a combination of hypothermia and a heart attack one cold winter's night. She didn't have any money to put fuel in the car any more so that she could at least run the heater for a while. It's a barbaric system that could allow this situation to occur.
Tragic
Wait what? Aren't there ways to default or something? I find this hard to believe.
@@meijiishin5650My father had medical bills over $1 million, and my mother didn't pay them. In a few months they were written off. The US is a hellhole.
I'm a Dutchman. About 15 years ago my brother wanted to move to the USA. He believed in the American dream. He wanted to become rich in a short amount of time and he believed that he could become successful there. Luckily we could convince him to not go. The argument that was most convincing, were the extreme expenses for health care in the USA. He never went to the USA and he is now happy he never went. Because the health care expenses have only risen since then.
I mean, even with the healthcare prices, going to America for a few years is still an easy way for anyone to get rich. Americans are much richer than all Europeans even after healthcare no matter which way you measure it. Just look at average wage salaries for STEM jobs. CS majors make an average of over 150k in America. What’s the better alternative? Go to London or something and make 50k a year while paying the same rent as NYC?
The fact that US government doesn't think education, health, and infrastructure as essential investment for productivity, is beyond me.
Ernsthaft die lassen die Eltern von Kindern zu viel für ungesundes Essen in der schule zahlen. Klein timm darf nichts bekommen er kann sich kein essen leisten.
Truth! I'm thinking maybe to have healthy and well educated citizens isn't in their interest, ignorant masses are more easily manipulated and used... it can't be otherwise, it is too strange not to have access to free education and health care like the rest of the world... These are basic necessities...
It is not essential...for short term productivity and profit. EVERYTHING in the US is about short term....profit.
@KLGoodman yeah and that is the same thing that is happening in Canada Australia and New Zealand
I like your argument, I use a similar idea too. If half of healthcare is tied to your employment, then the result is restricting labour flexibility. If you charge so much for education, you don't get the knowledge and expertise needed for modern day work. How much does poor infrastructure cost the economy. If your roads and rail are too bad, then companies will set up elsewhere.
Imagine paying $40 USD to hold your newborn child when $40 USD can get me a life saving surgery done here in Australia
After listening to this video i was ashamed for my last ranting at the hospital here in Canada...
My rant was about the 25$ parking fee (a sign mention parking is free if the visit is under 15 minutes but i was there for 20... i know, i know, i'm an entitled Karen /s)
That man paid less money for his heart surgery than that woman for holding the baby that was just literally inside her.
I'm a slightly above minimum wage worker and I pay £110 a month on national insurance and that pays for healthcare, state pension, paternity leave, unemployment benefits plus a few more. It's a deduction on my wage, as is tax
@@null010010 I'm still ranting about the fact that some ambulance costs aren't free here in Aus (mostly airlifts but wtf mate)
@@pianoonparade An ambulance ride in the US is typically $1500-$3000, god forbid you need a airlift. Those start at $25,000. People have refused ambulances and hired ubers to take them to the hospital in an attempt to manage costs over getting healthcare.
Exactly, Americans always talk about their freedoms, but in reality they are very quickly in a position with huge debt, lower quality in life, have 3 jobs, get homeless, live pay check to pay check - and the list goes on and on.
"But, but...we want our freedoms"
I'm so lucky being born in a country with universal healthcare, free education etc. And yes, I'll gladly pay my taxes. It gives me quality in life and much less to worry about.
Typical ignorant filth from the EU who are so uneducated that they don’t know the basics.
You have a higher average household debt than the US, nothing that you mentioned is free (learn simple math), you have higher homelessness rate than the US, you have much higher taxes, much lower average net salaries, and you live in a literal war zone. You can’t even protect your own home land.
You’re a joke. Rooting for Putin.
Don't bother, Father son is a liar and a troll. He's a butt hurt American who can't stand that other countries have it better than the US.
Basically, most problems that you see in America today boil down to one problem; our country cares more about profits than people. Corporations and the wealthy have bought our politicians to do their bidding at the expense of the majority of the citienzry. The top priority for our politicians isn't to do what's best for the majority of people. It's to do what is best for the wallets of the corporations and wealthy elite who bank roll them. That's why you see stuff like this happening. It all boils down to corruption.
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„This is not freedom“ Yes, that‘s true and i never, never understand why Americans talk about communism in the case of healthcare coverage for all
They don't understand the difference between Communism and Socialism because they have been brainwashed.
They are selfish.
They also forget that they’re one sickness or catastrophe away from poverty.
I do not mind working for someone who isn’t able to, to get free healthcare they deserve.
Even if some people misuse it, so long one person is getting the help they need I do not care I’ll continue to work and pay my taxes here in the UK.
they (the usa) would rather call it communism or socialism to avoid saying what it is.. Universal healthcare for everyone through taxes. Because everyone would understand right away what it means.. That the rich pay a bit more so the poor still get treatment.
Some Americans don’t even know the difference between communism and the metric system ;)
McCarthyism (a.k.a Red Scare) swept through the United States during the Cold War with the Soviet Union, and it was like a witch hunt trying to black list and imprison as many “communists” as we could. Communism/socialism is a buzzword for something bad in the U.S. because of that past
that man passing away because he couldn't afford his insuline broke my heart. no human should ever have to die over not being able to afford a widely available medication :(
3rd world countries. What you gonna do? That's how it is.
For me, US is somewhere between Somalia and Kongo.
@@bifrostbeberast3246 I live in Argentina, a third world country and we have universal free healthcare, u can even get full cancer treatment for free.
Especially because the guy who invented it did not want people to make a profit off of human lives. He sold it for $1. Sure, that was worth more a century ago but that's like selling it for $20 today. These companies are leaches on society.
@@fedeph665 Is Argentina even a 3rd world country? I'm pretty much as far as it gets (middle EU) but from what I've seen it's not as bad as some African or Asian countries
@@Inferiis Argentina is totally not a third world country in the economic sense. It is way poorer than the EU but I think it might be on the same level as Russia (talking about per capita gdp here)
I moved to germany 2 and a half years ago and not having to worry about medical emergencies is one of the most freeing things. I had to have my wisdom teeth removed, free (save for like 10 bucks in antibiotics) then I went back to the states (foolishly didn't get travel insurance) and got a wicked sinus infection, going to the doctor and the meds was over 200$!!! It truly breaks my heart when Americans are conned into believing that socialized medicine will lead to a complete system collapse or whatever. No bud, you're living in the system collapse.
I’m so so blessed to live in Austria, you don’t understand.
I am so blessed.
My employer shows the state what I earn, the state deducts the amount I should pay (based on all salary brackets), by the time I start work, I have a letter that shows how much is deducted from me, how much my employer pays, my insurance number and told to make an appointment to get my insurance card made at the police station, every EVERYTHING from there is covered. Except washing my teeth which costs 100€. That’s nothing.
Specialists, GP, Dentist, fillings, etc etc all covered. Great quality healthcare too. One of the best in the world.
Thank you America. You are leading an example to the rest of the world on how NOT to run a healthcare system.
As Maui says, or rather, sings, “You’re welcome!”
rest of the world? this phrase is not very well accepted... we are the World! america is the "rest"
I swear America is just three companies in a trench coat pretending to be a country.
I KNOW, YOU DON’T HAVE TO RUB IT IN! 😡 WE’RE TRYING, OKAY, WE’RE TRYING. WE’RE TRYING TO BE BETTER.
If you can't be a role model, you can at least be a warning!
"This is not freedom" Well said.
Its called corruption
@@chafiqbantla1816 it's not corruption. It's like Chinese people don't say anything to the communist authoritarian government cause they don't know what freedom means. Same with a majority of Americans, they just don't Realise what universal healthcare can do for them or even the fact that it is pretty easy for the largest economy in the world to enforce it.
@@suvansh29 It is both. I live in the United States, and yes, corruption is a HUGE reason why our healthcare system is so terrible.
@@chafiqbantla1816 not corruption in this case but this is pure capitalism. So lucky i don't live in the us because I'm 100% sure i couldn't afford it. Would rather pay higher taxes than to live like this. My thoughts go to you americans here that lives like this. This is not normal in the rest of the world. How you're so far behind on stuff like this is unimaginable
@@suvansh29 you are wrong about the Chinese. They know what freedom is but they choose to give some away for the betterment of the society at whole.
I moved to Japan 5 years ago and when I think about returning home, getting a decent job with a good benefits package is front and center in my mind.
Even applying for unemployment and welfare assistance is a joke. I was denied when I was between jobs as a college student, and my late aunt, who had nothing, was living off my parents' couch, was only given $15/mo for groceries.
It's an utter nightmare.
Please, for those who live outside my country, mourn out daily loss of lives & take a moment to appreciate your Healthcare that was fought so hard for. Our fight continues.
Living in the US, you learn that "Freedom for all Americans" is actually "Freedom for all American businesses." It sucks when half of your country’s policy makers prioritize businesses over people.
"Half of the country" Please look up facts before you comment
@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 when our politicians act en masse as a party, it becomes half the country
@@randomgaming8616 Yeah exactly, "start a business" as I said. And yes, America is a great place to be an established millionaire. Lot of potential for growth once you got a foot in the door.
More than half. Both the Republicans and Democrats are in on it.
well, feel free to move to Europe, as long as it's possible before we build a border to keep out US refugeees :|
But srsly, feel free to come over, you will get the help you need to get on your feed
The part about insulin made me angry. This young man had a whole life ahead of him and didn't get to live it out because of corporate greed and a superstitious fear that federal regulations are somehow going to lead to communism.
That's the thing.
People in high positions, who are more concerned about maintaining their own paycheck.
And a lot of smart people, who have to deal with immature ones.
(You can see the difference with America's customer service lines, compared to Canada's. Big difference in quality.)
It's not so much about being smart in this country. But more about being "entertaining."
Or who is friends with who.
TL;DR
America hates smart people.
after watching this, im really starting to question which system I am living in
@@Aaron-bn4wi I think its more the case he couldn't afford the medication
@@Aaron-bn4wi lol
I made a comment outlining how I don't have to pay for my medication or consults. I have drug resistant epilepsy which puts me at risk of dying.
I also said I feel sorry for the states [due to their healthcare].
He replied by telling me I deserve to be sick as I was ignorant and believed "that rubbish"
It was clear where he's from due the use of "we".
I'm super grateful that I'm Malaysian. Our healthcare is not the best but it's quite good. It's not free but heavily subsidized. This video made me love my country more.
I had minor brain trauma a few months ago, my employers sent me to a clinic were I received very poor care. I'm still insured through my parent so I'm seeking private medical attention. but every day I go to work to pay my bills at the cost of my health and every day my condition deteriorates. The American health system is scary, and stressful. I should be doing nothing but resting and healing. but that's not the reality America has created for itself
Think of it as the US doing the world a service. Here in the UK there are right wing politicians who periodically try to privatise the NHS, but we can just point to the US and say "no, we can see it doesn't work, that's a terrible idea".
And yet it’s happening under everyone’s noses. And Brexit makes it less likely that we can adopt something like the German system which is a pretty decent compromise.
Ultimately the right would privatise everything in the world and whilst they have privatised the NHS from within they will never stop it from being free to use, paid for by taxes. It is the one thing they know they cannot get away with.
Regardless of your feelings about the legal outcomes of Brexit, the political reality remains unchanged
It was the left wing Labour Party that started privatisation with Blair and Browns plans for private companies to build hospitals and saddle the NHS with expensive rents.
@@squeaksvids5886 let's be fair, there was nothing left wing about New Labour. Thatcher called Tony Blair her greatest achievement. They were war hawks and market fundamentalists, so just right wingers with a different brand (there are couple of left wing MPs in the party, but as we've seen recently, not enough to actually make it left wing).
Unfortunately you will lose the NHS I promise you. You are already losing it it’s being sold to private’s! That’s what Johnson and the brexitiers are doing believe me! Wait and see!
American Healthcare logic: A cured patient is a lost customer. 😢
NHS logic: we can’t save you but we know you’ll praise us anyway
Don't bother, Father son is a liar and a troll.
@@brozius - So it would seem... :)
Well so is a dead one, but they don't seem to care about that either...
Which rule of acquisition was that again? 😂
The US public school system is at least as bad. The problem in the US is incredibly high levels of government corruption.
American health care is not only for-profit, it’s also a classist system.
There is no such thing as a heath care system in the US. In the US, healthcare is a business, like pretty much everything else!
USA has healthcare system. It is called Go Fund Me
In the US, if it doesn't make money it goes.
germany does have a market system and still universal healthcare ----- i think that is way better then any singlepayer system
To be forsed to pay just so you can hold your own child after birth, that is just utterly disgusting, who would even think of such a thing. It makes me feel sick.
That's so f**cked up.
Honestly I'd deduct it from payments and be willing to see them in court over it. How a bill to hold your own newborn can be enforced is beyond me, I'd challenge it at every chance.
@@sophiemoore507 The point is that you shouldn't have to challenge it in the first place!
Once a society manages to moralize profit there's little that can't be justified in persuit of profit. The ends justifies the means
I'm not sure, but isn't it a kidnapping?
“The masses never revolt of their own accord, and they never revolt merely because they are oppressed. Indeed, so long as they are not permitted to have standards of comparison, they never even become aware that they are oppressed.”
― George Orwell, 1984
A few years ago I passed out at work, hit my head on the way down. The second I woke up I begged them to just let me take a bus home but they said I had to go. If anything happened to me it would be on the company. I sat in the ER crying begging them to stop treating me. They couldn't find a cause and said I was probably dehydrated or overworked. When the bill came my work suddenly said they weren't responsible since it was a pre existing condition. I begged my boss to put me on full time so I could afford the bill and have insurance so I could do follow up appointments. She told me they simply weren't allowed unless someone else quit. I got 1 day off unpaid and no follow up treatment. I had 2 black eyes with a cut and worked in at a service desk in a busy Vegas Casino.
I am sorry you gone through this.
I'm so sad that happened to you. Only a psychopath would defend a system that allows this kind of things.
That's terrible. You have to organize and ask as many times as necessary a Universal Health System.That would give you a lot of peace of mind and nobody would be in danger of dying or in the "best" of cases, bankruptcy
So they don’t want ‘socialism’, but they’re all right begging for money from strangers online? How humiliating.
They're not alright with it, but it's their last choice, and more often than not, the people asking for help online are the ones trying to push for change. They're the ones who want universal healthcare. The ones who don't ask for help online usually have loads of money and berate anyone for not "working hard enough to afford Health Care." It's sickening the way people get treated over there.
Begging for help... Oh.. You mean gofundme... Well. That is suppose to be help while people against medical for all think it is a government plot to take citizens rights away and pay for lazy fat people..
Some of us know better. We aren't enough to bring change though.
What they are practising is one way capitalism.
"Our" money.
The U.S. is perfectly fine with socialism. After all, having a standing military funded by society is ...socialism. It's not whether it's socialism is a benefit to the people in power. If you ever talk to an American, you'll quickly realize that they have been fed a narrative for generations to the point the propaganda has now become their fabric of society, even if society is being completely repressed by it. When you offer them something that benefits everyone v.s. something at will take from people and give it to the filthy rich, they'll choose to feed the rich over themselves every time.
Netherlands, I had a pretty severe accident at work. Had two surgeries and I've been hospitalized for two weeks.
The bill? They charged me 12EUR / 14USD for snacks & soda drinks I consumed. Very thankful for our 'socialist' healthcare system!
In the USA that ordeal would definitely bankrupted me and I would be living on the streets
Dad got a lung transplant. Paid nothing.
In all EU is more or less the same. Thank god
LMAO,i mean,come on,they dont even know what socialist is, but hey! They are the leader of the free world right?
I had a complicated pregnancy, in and out of hospital the whole time until I delivered my lil bundle.
The cost? 0. I even got free lucozade and snacks every time I was admitted. Our "Socialist" NHS is pretty sick😉
@@whocares269 for them, socialist = communist.
I decided to have a video visit to the doctor because I am overweight and I want to lose weight. This video visit ,that lasted 10 minutes, costed me $800 because the insurance didn't cover it. According to the insurance it is not a serious health concern.
Coming from Europe, the US is truly a Underdeveloped country not only because of the health system, also the public transport, education system, etc.
I live in Norway where we have socialized healthcare, and guess what, our healthcare system sucks. You are lucky if you get help. You have cystic acne that scars up your face? 6 months wait to see a dermatologist. You have severe depression and anxiety? 1 year wait for a therapist, if you are so fortunate that you are allowed on the waiting list. You're a student living away from home, and want to see a doctor? There's one place you can go, and they will refuse you unless they deem it as acute. You have moved to another city and need a primary care physician, or you're just unhappy with your current one? Too bad, in many cities and towns there are not a single one available. Can't breathe through your nose because of a deviated septum? In my city, there's a 2.5 year wait for a surgery. You're a nurse? Nurses are quitting in droves because of understaffing, stress and poor working conditions. A recent survey revealed that 72% of nurses are considering quitting their jobs. Our wealthy politicians, including our prime minister, are paying their way past the queues, while the rest of us have to wait.
I’m an American woman. When I was a child I suffered from frequent pneumonia because of my fathers job as a farmer. During harvest season there would be so much dust in the air that it was too much for my lungs to handle. I would get pneumonia every year. I was hospitalized four times, each time staying for about a week. This put my family in financial ruin. We had to take back Christmas gifts to pay bills. No child should go through that guilt just because their body is unreliable. It stems self loathing on my part
That's rather sad. I had asthma as a kid, I have anxiety now, so I'm a fairly regular visitor at the doctor's office, but my biggest (and only) expense is my prescripted medication (which costs about 50 cents a month converted to USD)
Unbelievable. When it comes to health care no one here in Germany is concert about money. You get it free (in a sense of it is and always will be a small part of your earnings) even if it would cost 100.000$+. America is a bad place to live.
@@OliverUlpts well, it works like that everywhere else, but hey, americans think it's socialism. Let them do as they please...
statunitian. america is a continent.
@@nekochan8399 America is a country, North America is a continent, which includes Canada and Mexico and 20 other countries and territories😊
Is it socialist to have a state funded police or fire service, or should these services also be provided only to people with adequate insurance?
Good comparison😀
@@paivyt. Unfortunately for U.S. citizens, this will never change. As long as it's acceptable for a hospital to charge $56 for a pair of 10 cent disposable gloves, there's no way that these monsters will give up this kind of profit, why would they?
@@IanDarley You may be right... I really wish it could.
I once had a discussion with someone about that here on RUclips. He stated that those things are needed for the protection of its citizens, but he wouldn’t want to pay for my healthcare. It is not his responsibility. These people are so brainwashed.
The US Postal and school service is also socialised.
They have been brainwashed into thinking a socialised healthcare model is less effective.
America, the land of the free, and the home of the brave, so long as you’re not sick.
Some notes:
0:12 “The United States is the only wealthy nation without universal health care.”
1:25 “35% of American adults report avoiding medical care because of cost.”
2:10 “Half of Americans have health coverage through an employer.”
2:49 Average price of insulin in other countries. USA is by far the highest
3:55 “66% of bankruptcies in America are tied to medical issues.”
4:14 “In the past decade, almost 250,000 GoFundMe campaigns have been set up for health care costs, raising $650 million.”
4:30 US Health Care is the most expensive of developed. US average Life Expectancy was lowest of developed countries.
I‘m a pediatric neurosurgeon here in Austria, been doing my job for 13 years now, asked many questions to so many patients but none of them was ever related to money or insurance. I feel privileged to being able to focus on my work.
The doctors never have the $$ talks with the patient. I think much of the high cost is the clerical staff they have to employ to have those discussions with patients and to manage insurance billing and disputes. I spoke with my surgeon today to prepare for an upcoming procedure. He absolutely never has mentioned payment. The hospital staff did demand a payment before I could go get my labs and ekg.
You must have steady hands and nerves. Good for you! 👏 👏
@@andromedaspark2241 I think they called it "administrative fees" in america. AF in US is around 20%, in other countries they capped it around 5% max.
I take my grandparents to the doctor regularly and the only money related question they get is if they want the cheapest drug prescribed or the one our doctor thinks will work best (and only becuase this area isn't the wealthiest, so most doctors ask this for the patient to be able to take the meds needed)
Super ist des! Mindestens sterbern wearn ma ned
As someone, who does the same job as you at Great Ormond Street, the only people who asked about cost, were Americans, when they were referred !!! It is actually ' paediatric ',
but I will let you off !
I live in Germany and I absolutely love the healthcare system so so much.
My mom died of cancer about one and a half years ago and from the moment she was diagnosed, until the day she died, she did not pay a single cent for any treatment or medication. She had to quit her job because she was diagnosed with stage 3c, so her surgery, chemo and other treatments were very rough on her body. Not only did the government pay her a so called “illness benefit” so we could still survive with just my part time job since I was also still studying at the time, but they even paid every single taxi she took to and from the hospital or other doctors. They payed for the hospital bed and oxygen tanks she needed at home, even her wheelchair, literally anything you could think of!
That’s how far the government will go for you here, because they realize, that money should not have to be something you need to worry about, while you’re literally fighting for your life!
I hope your mum rest in peace. Could not agree more than when you get sick we should all protect that person. Because you can make a pile of money and that pile of paper will never smile or talk. People over money.
I am from Germany too. I just want to make one thing clear before anyone mistakenly thinks we live here in the land of milk and honey (there ain't no such thing as a free lunch): The government does NOT pay this, but either the taxpayers, i.e. all of us, or it is paid by the contributions to our obligatory health insurance. It is a principle of solidarity, into which we all pay, but also benefit from when we need it.
@@NeinDochOhh yes but that’s the entire point of our system. My mom also payed the same taxes her entire working life here, and if the worst of the worst does happen, you realize why it’s so incredibly important to have this system and that it always has your back.
@@NeinDochOhh And for any Americans reading this - in comparison to mine (Czech Republic), Germany is a much richer country. Yet our system here is exactly the same. You pay about 100 USD a month to the system and everything else is free. It's a tax, it's a small tax, and it's a tax that saves lives. Think about that next time you call yourself the greatest country in the world - former communist eastern Europe is way ahead of you, America.
@@NeinDochOhh Yes, but the fact that it is a system based on solidarity makes it cheaper for all of us. Paying for insurance that covers something like a sever and long lasting disease is just not possible for most people. Even if you are able to pay for health insurance in a privatized system you will usually lose it, when illness causes you to lose your job. And of course not everything is perfect about the German health care system, but it is pretty good.
If hypothetically the cost for Insurance premiums, deductibles, copays, and whatever else is billed for a medical procedure comes out costing the same as the tax you pay for universal healthcare, I would definitely choose universal healthcare cause it so less stressful. Trying to understand all the bills and what you pay and what insurance pays can make you sick.
there is a consensus that the totally loaded costs of the US healthcare system are between 1.5 and 2x the fully loaded cost of most major universal healthcare systems
Honestly: thank you for that video. I‘m from Germany and every time I talk to friends and family about health care, we go completely nuts when we think of US system. I mean: for sure the German system has its flaws here and there, some severe as well. BUT we complain from a very high standard tbh.
What the USA are doing in terms of health care is - by a German point of view - not First World, not even Second World, no, it’s Third World.
And in the end: people die - because the Government gives a s***.
It’s absolutely hilarious how gullible people from the EU are. You have amongst the lowest care qualities in the world, and as always, instead of worrying about your own country, you are crying about the US.
Homelessness is out of control in your country, and you are worrying about the healthcare system in a country thousands of miles away.
Your insecurity is pathetic. This is why we don’t allow you to exist as a sovereign nation any longer.
Never forget that for the past 75 years, we control you.
@@fatherson5907 I really like the spin in the end, didn’t see that coming. But you gave me a big laugh, so thank you very much!
@@Khal_Maharani thay're a troll ignore them
Viva la Unión Europea!
Please, 3rd world have universal health care!!
@@nurlindafsihotang49 True!
That last man phrased it perfectly. Having peace of mind that you will be protected if you became ill or injured is real freedom.
Living in complacency isn’t freedom. Standing on your own feet without having your hand held by the government is. You’re lazy and scared.
@@fatherson5907 So I guess begging strangers on the internet for money because of circumstances outside of your control is "standing on your own feet" then? It's always funny how delusional some people get over the institutionalised murder machine that is the US healthcare.
@@nanaya7e433 no, it’s called being irresponsible.
It’s always funny seeing people from countries where the average salary is $20000 cry about the internal affairs of the US, somewhere they could never afford to even visit 😂😂😂
This cruelty towards your own countrymen only adds to the sadness this video gave me.
Funny how much more they can get out of their money. How little regulation they need to abide by to do most things.
What brainwashed putz. Keep getting extorted for your alleged freedom. While the rest of humanity laughs.
It's heartbreaking knowing so many of us are potentially one medical emergency away from bankruptcy. And yet somehow not being able to afford insurance or care is seen as a personal moral failing in the US and not a huge national problem.
@@GQ2593 My mother has 90 grand put away for retirement. If we ever got $600,000 medical bill, we'd be ruined.
@@GQ2593 You not personally responsible for not being able to pay an over $200,000 medical bill. No one chooses to get sick or injured. The average middle-class worker would never be able to pay that off with a single-income job. Don't be ridiculous.
@@GQ2593 Personal responsibility.
You mean like the boy who was BORN with diabetes and died because he couldn't pay for insuline?
Yoz mean that kind of "personal responsibility" ?
@@GQ2593 what is the personal responsibility for child cancer?
@@GQ2593 Or do you mean like the fact that a medical mistake meant I was born two months premature and have had lifelong health problems from that that I never asked for? That kind of personal responsibility?
It's even more absurd if you consider that some of those countries do have an insurance system. In places like Italy or France you don't pay a dime for anything, except some small co-pay on non-life-threatening conditions.
We pay close to $800.00 a month for our families medications per month AFTER insurance. Also my husband gets much better care than I do as a middle aged white woman. When I go in for anything I am often just told that it is all in my head or to take aspirin.
Heartbreaking how the states don't care of their vulnerable population, despite being the wealthiest country.
Healthcare rips people off, stocks goes up, a handful of rich investors are happy.
Heartbreaking how literal foreigners such as myself that never lived and won't live in the US care about this more than American conservatives.
Not even the most conservatives of conservatives I've met in my lifetime ever thought universal Healthcare is bad.
@@unixtreme that’s because they have been brainwashed by the ultra rich to think that universal healthcare is bad when in actuality it’s really good for us. I’m a US citizen and A lot of it is the miss information shown by main stream media (that’s owned by the super wealthy) or the lies they say.
@@cupcakelove29 , True. Also there is way too much division within the American people to get up and protest against the ultra rich and the corrupt politicians. From gaslighters to liars, from weirdos to crazy people, people hate each other, fight each other, don't care about one another and don't wanna have anything to do with one another. Americans in all 50 states are way too detracted from their smartphones and social media. They are numb to the bad healthcare system here in America and act like it is normal. Unlike the people in other countries in this video, Americans, not all, don't wanna learn about other countries and their healthcare systems. Some of them will put down other countries and say America is the greatest country in the world with freedom and full freedom. And the people from other countries in this video, they will never survive or live long in the United States because of how heartless, cruel, silly, crazy and stupid the healthcare system is.
Unfortunately that’s how America has always been like, it was “free” land where anybody could come and claim with blood and sweat. You’re free to become capitalist on the back of slaves and fellow Americans or you can die penniless.
Here in the US we pay for our healthcare with our taxes, then we pay for it with our monthly insurance costs, then we get a bill for visiting the hospital, THEN we have to pay for our medications. It's a scam.
Institutionalized murder is what the rest of the world would call it.
It is the same in France (taxes+monthly insurance+hospital bills+medication), by the way, except we are not charged between 70% and 100% of the cost, depending of our medical situation and of our insurance
Unlike many europeans, as an American you can choose whatever coverage and quality you want and can afford. European 'free healthcare ' is not free, its covered by healthcare tax. But you can't choose coverage or quality. You get what you get, no matter how much healthcare tax you pay. So European healthcare is great if you are poor, not so great if you earn a lot.
@@_Viking in France and many european countries, we have a general basic insurance, which is compulsory and is funded by contributions and taxes. It ensures a satisfactory level of coverage for all, poor or rich. But you have a complementary insurance scheme (also compulsory) linked to your work with different formulas for coverage of dental or eyes care, or specific care (podology for ex), or if you want to have an individual room with TV in a clinic, things like that. So the richer you are, the best complementary insurance you can buy. Or if you have a good syndicate in some sectors, because your employer pays a good part. The big difference is that (normally)
@@_Viking that's not even remotely true... people in Europe, the UK, Australia and NZ can get free healthcare or have medical insurance to get private healthcare...
I live in America. I had the most expensive ppo plan possible under my parents and a rare fungal meningitis eating holes into my brain. (The hospital didn’t know how to treat it and there was a 60 percent death rate and 90 percent disability rate.) They tried to kick me out of the hospital at two weeks when I needed 8 weeks of care and annual high dose drugs. They were going to move me to their “grade c” hospital. Thank god though- my parents worked up a legal deal with the insurance company. (Something no one else I knew was able to do.) they kept me in the hospital blindly treating me but it was in the fourth week at this grade A hospital that the doctors had the wherewithal and resources to contact the NIH. When the government intervened because they were interested in studying the rare illness the insurance refused to cough up the money to fly me across the country for government research/treatment. My parents paid out-of-pocket to jet me because a plane ride was too taxing for the pressures on my brain. If my parents didn’t have connections I would have died or gone blind. One girl I knew exactly my age didn’t get into contact with the NIH for weeks. She went blind.
Thank you for sharing your experience! I don't live in the US and this was really, really eye-opening.
The last statement is so much true.
Knowing you will be taken care of gives you peace of mind -at least in that regard- and thus freedom to care about other things.
Back when I was 21 I had this surgery called appendectomy, simple surgery, took around 20 min to get it done, when i received my medical bill it was for $7,000, I thought my health insurance would cover all the expenses and when I called them the answer they gave was, “we cannot cover your bill because you didn’t get a peritonitis” (which is when the appendix explodes and basically there’s a very little chance to save your life) I was like “so you were expecting me to have one foot in the coffin so you can get me covered?” Healthcare in U.S. is the worst in the entire world and they pretend to blind of that huge problem.
I had a motorcycle accident a couple of years ago, snapped ACL, torn MCL and meniscus. Hospital visit was free, surgical consult was free, Xrays had a huge cost of maybe $40.. MRI was free, surgery was free, my hospital room was free, flat rate of $15 a month for all medication, rehab was subsidized and I even received 80% of my regular salary for the time I couldn't go yo work... your story is just so alien to the rest of us it boggles my mind.
Time to move to a different country. Even if not for oneself, you still might have children...
@@mijp Luckily for me, I moved back to my country, Colombia, where in my opinion I do have more freedom and a much better healthcare than living in the U.S
@@maigepresents5840 thats insane that your job pays you when you're sick or injured! im American and if i called my job and said i was injured and would not be able to work for weeks, they would fire me immediately!
@@karlee462 the government pays me 80% if I get injured and need more than a few days off work. Most companies will use your sick leave (minimum 5 days a year) to top up the other 20% of you need to.
US thinks it's the cool kid, but really is a jerk, while the rest of the class already knew this. Lol
Those of us stuck here at the mercy of the medical system know this. It sucks.
China and Russia think they are the strongest bullies but the rest of the class knew that too.
@@bradley8575 its funny that you write under so much comments, but you actually never bring any other arguments than pointing the finger to russia/china and more while trying to tell us "theyre not better". i mean, you sound like my 5yr old nephew who just got caught stealing sweeties and who then tries to blame others. get over it, youre living in a huge capitalistic lie.
Yeah and your also saying that US is capitalistic when you are literally living in capitalist country yourself living a privileged life.
@@bradley8575 youre still doing it. the fun part is you dont even realize it.
self-reflection can be a hard task, i know it. but the average american (= you) never has been known for such skills...
I thank my parents every time I remember they choose Canada rather than USA (even though most of our relatives live in USA).
Each doctor appointments, each prenatal appointments (of my four kids), each ER visit, each ultrasound - lab works - x-ray, each time I gave birth... all that was covered by OHIP.
Soon I'm going for ligation, I'm still in awe it is ALSO covered by OHIP.
Oh and I had gestational diabetes too. What we only pay is the high cost of hospital parking of max $12 / night lol.....
My parents too. When I was a baby, they emigrated to the USA. That lasted exactly four months and they returned to my birth country. Eleven years later, we emigrated to Canada and that's the best decision my parents could have made for me.
All places have it's problems, but to think people refer to the US as a first world country when people can't even have insulin to keep living is just surreal.
You believe propaganda because you’re ignorant and uneducated.
It’s because Americans make way more money than Europeans so expensive health care isn’t a concern for the majority
@@HoweFareNot true anymore, most of the United States population is one to two paychecks away from being homeless now.
@@HoweFareNot true anymore, most of the United States population is one to two paychecks away from being homeless now.
As someone from Germany where I got surgery that was about 70k € and got it for free this is seriously depressing. How can Americans say They live in the best country in the world is beyond me😂😂😂
It is the best country in the world...but only if you are already rich!
@@jamesavery3727 Why is it only great for the rich? Is it because they pay less taxes?
@@sweetra07 they don't pay taxes.
@@sweetra07 Rich people don't care that much if they pay 1000$/month for HC so they have a peace of mind others don't (Poor and middle class have to compromise and have, no HC or blonze/silver HC)
@@null010010 Poor always end up sacrificing essentials. I had to go without car insurance for years because I couldn’t afford it.
"But socialized medicine leads to rationing and waiting lists!"
I live in Bulgaria, EU's poorest country. I had a pneumothorax in 2009 - my ling got punctured and withered, leaking air between itself and the rib cage. It took a few days before the symptoms were severe enough for me to go to a doctor.
The visit to GP cost me about a dollar (now it's about a dollar and a half), the X-ray to diagnose it was free. I had an operation on the same day - it was not serious, but I had to stay in the hospital a few days for the lung to gradually expand again. I payed about 20 dollars for the bed and food. I also payed about 60 dollars for MRI - it was not covered by the insurance as it was not considered needed, but I payed for it out of pocket just to be sure everything was fine.
Don't get me wrong, our health system has a lot of problems, from very low medical salaries and thus low doctor morale, we don't have the latest medical technologies, sometimes doctors are negligent and don't do their jobs properly. But you can always go to another doctor, and you will never be afraid you'll go bankrupt because of medical treatment.
Our system perhaps takes more effort and perseverance to use, but it is accessible to everyone. Having the best healthcare and pricing it so people have to pay down medical debt for decades is not a sound economic policy.
Exactly same in Serbia. You dont pay anything that doctors consider necessary, if you want additional care just “to be sure” you have to pay some additional costs which is not more then 100 euros.. Its not perfect at all, we all consider our healthcare system to be bad, but yet you dont go bancrupt from some procedures your life depends on. If you dont get along with your doctor you can go to another one, ask for a different opinion
Exactly, it's not like people go to the hospital for fun once it's free, I live in Italy and you only have to wait if what you have isn't urgent (cronic pain).
100% true. I'm Bulgarian as well, living in the UK. I've used the UK public health system numerous times and I have not paid more than £50 in total for 2 years. In Bulgaria is the same. Some elderly people say medicines are too expensive , but honestly, compared to the other countries , I find it reasonably priced. Many things can be Improved but no doctor will let you die if you don't have money to pay him.
Хей! Аз също съм от България! Привет!:D
So glad I live here. My grandma's not in very good health, had hear issues, vein enlargement and her blood pressure sometimes jumps up and more than a kid playing hopscotch. We once had to call an ambulance 3 times in a single month and am so glad it is free. Supporting a family of 5 with 2 small pensions and 1 salary doesn't leave much extra money, especially if said salary gets delayed for 2 months at a time.
Oh trust me the US healthcare system takes the most effort and perseverance to use, and that is assuming you have health insurance (after making those confusing decisions illustrated in the beginning). You first need to find a doctor in your network. A hospital or office might be in network but specific doctors might not be so you need to figure out who you will be seeing and confirm that doctor is in network. Don’t know what’s wrong with you and therefore have no clue what kind of specialist you need? Tough luck, take your best guess and hope for the best. Once you think you have a doctor you can go see based on scouring pages of confusing provider lists, you need to double or triple check with your insurer and the doctor. Calling the insurer might mean you get to stay on hold for inordinate amounts of time, yay! And then once you get whatever treatment and it’s time to pay, you hold your breath and hope the insurance actually covered it. I’d give it a 50-50 chance. They may not cover it which then is the start of year long battles with insurers and hospital accounting departments who are fully lawyered up so best lawyer up as well. But while you try to get your justice, your credit ratings take a nose dive which means you may be alive but everything is now a lot more difficult and expensive to do, potentially permanently.
So yeah, it takes tons of brains, time, patience and money to be sick in the US - and that is if you have insurance. If you don’t, you beg for money to pay for stuff, you sell all of your possessions and go bankrupt to pay for it, or you just die. Land of the free it is not, but it is brave to a foolhardy level to live in America.
I am born and raised American but I don’t live there anymore. Once they figure out health care and gun control, I would love to go back, since I do love my people and my country. But I am not risking getting shot only to live but then become bankrupt from the medical bill.
My mother had a knee replacement on public health system here and in total it cost her $12 for meds which they apologised for having to charge her. Physio, pain management, surgeon's follow up visits were all free.
Land of the free... to pay the most expensive hospital bills
It was great to have been asked to appear in this piece as the Canadian panelist. It's not just what wealthy countries like Canada who offer universal healthcare to their citizens. My wife and I split our time between our home in Toronto and a 2nd home in Costa Rica, where we recently were granted permanent residency. Because we do not pay income tax in CR, we have to pay into the system for access. To cover myself and my wife, we pay approximately $80 USD a month for both of us, and the level of care in Costa Rica is very high.
Yeah, it is not often mentioned in the US when discussing this topic that it's not only the wealthy nations that provide universal healthcare. Many non-wealthy countries do as well. I wish people would mention that more, because there are lots of white supremacists in the US who oppose universal healthcare because they don't want any care going to non-whites and they'll say that the reason universal healthcare works in the Scandinavian countries (their perennial example) and wouldn't work in the US is because northern Europe has "a homogeneous (read, white) population." People ought to counter that argument by pointing to the many non-white and multi-racial countries that successfully provide universal healthcare.
Dang, only $80/month would be a dream!
@@colibri1 In the United States a heart surgery like his would cost close to a half a million dollars whether you're white or not. And like the man in the video who, very sadly, died from his diabetes - his treament would still cost $1300 a month for his diabetes medication alone. Regardless if he's white or not.
The problem with universal healthcare in America is not a white supremacy thing, it's a there's not enough money in America to pay those high prices -thing. Even if the top 1% of earners paid all their money to taxes (literally taking every dollar from the 1%) it would only be enough to pay for Universal Healthcare for 3 years at those prices.
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If America could get the cost of medications down to what they pay in Canada ( Such as $10 for insulin instead of $98. And $60,000 for a major surgery instead of $500,000) then Univeral Heathcare could be done here.
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But at the prices are now, no country in the world could afford to give their citizens Universal Heathcare, regardless if the people are white or not.
@@romaskincare9138 this explanation is flat out wrong and the numbers show that.
Costs are astronomical in the US because of non regulation and because everything is handled by private insurance companies whose purpose is not health of pepole but profit of the companies.
Switch to a single payer system and all the administrative costs go to 0, drug costs will plunge as the single payer has huge bargaining power against pharmaceutical companies.
The problem is that you have to raze to the ground an entire insurance industry and complicit doctors and there's far too much interest involved both by republicans and democrats it will never be done.
The excuse that works for gullible Americans?
- no freedom of choice
- increased costs
- long waitlists
- socialist country
All of the above proven wrong by a gazillion of single payer healthcare countries.
But Americans don't like to take a peak abroad, they're always better than anybody else.
@@golwenraw How does that make what I said flat out wrong? My ultimate point was that the prices in the US are extremely high. They're extremely high because prices aren't regulated. Regardless if healthcare becomes public or stays private the prices are high and unaffordable at these rates. We keep hearing that there's universal healthcare in other crountries, but as mentioned in my comments the price difference in other countries. The costs of meds and procedures over there are regulated and that's why it's more affordable over there. How does that make my reply flat out wrong?
imagine living in one of the richest countries in the world. yet you have to set up a go fund me page to pay for your medical bills. how dare americans still say that they live in the greatest country on the planet? i am so glad to be Dutch.
Agree!
They dare, because they know nothing about other countries and are being lied to all their life.
Am American. It sucks here.
Please get me out. I'll make you hamburgers!!
@@SuperSillyKitten Move to the welcoming Germany...or Denmark.
You could try and get a job in the military and ask for working in Germany e.g.
By that I mean not joining the army, but getting a normal job there.
Like accountant or something...you get the picture.
@@SuperSillyKitten what’s stopping you? Just leave.
But you’re aren’t American. If you were American, you wouldn’t type “Am American” - you’re probably Indian.
You also wouldn’t write “hamburgers” - we just call them burgers.
But keep on pretending you’re from the US if that makes you feel better about your poverty.
I live in Germany and I had a bad experience too. After I turned 26 I had to pay for my health Insurance but I had no Income because I was still studying. Till this day we haven’t figured it out. Only if you have a job or are under 26 you are insured. That’s bad too. I mean it’s still better than in the US but not perfect.
The Commonwealth Fund (NY, NY) has released an update on the report which analyzes US Health Care compared to other high-income countries. This report (called "Mirror, Mirror 2021") is extensive and very well detailed showing that most high-income countries have various ways of doing things, but by having a universal healthcare system the main benefits are lower government spend, better outcomes and longevity of life.
On almost every single measure, the United States is sadlly in last place for everything except care process which looks at preventive care, safe care, coordinated care, and engagement and patient preferences.
In their 2017 report the highest rated countries were UK, Australia and Netherlands. The lowest by a significant margin was the United States.
In their 2021 report the highest rated countries were Norway, Netherlands and Australia. Once again, the lowest by a significant margin was the United States.
A good example of moving forward with time was "Avoidable Deaths and Ten-Year Reduction in Avoidable Mortality Across Countries". Almost every country had drastic reductions in avoidable mortality of double digit percentages over a 10 years period for example Switzerland -25%, Australia -18% with the lowest decrease among these countries being Germany with -13%. But what some countries have been able to achieve in 10 years, would take the US 40 years with a reduction over the past 10 years being only -5%.
It really does need a shake up. Because as many people in this video have said - this has been done by every single country with excellent success (even though each countries does it differently).
The US needs to realise that universal healthcare is not a synonym for government control - but it does lead to economies of scale and massive spending reductions that have very positive knock on effects and health outcomes.
It's amazing! We learnt a few months ago that America is about the only rich country in the world that doesn't provide paid maternity leave for new mother's - even Afghanistan and poor African countries do that!
That's because the politicians talk the talk but they dont walk the talk
wow really?? i had no idea; im starting to think america is an oligarchy and not a democracy; the masses are controlled by the wealthy elite; even the poor will scream communism when you try to talk to them about public health care; so sad how brainwashed they are ; what is even sadder the poor and middle class will vote in these wealthy elite and they do not care one bit about them; they just keep amassing wealth for their class at the expense of everyone else
a baby is about $40,000 without complications and you can only stay in the hospital for 2 days. a baby with complications can be up to $300,000
@@sherrymac1336 Republicans would actually explain to you that America isnt a democracy. Its a constitutional republic they say very PROUDLY! And im like... wut?? why you happy on being a 3rd world banana republic?? wtf
And theyre wondering why the birth rate is going down. Im truly amazed anyone can afford to have a baby at all in the states
The U.S. are just a horrible place to live if you don't have money. End of story. If you wanna know how societies actually work, look at northern Europe.
Look all west Europe not just northern. The south has great health systems.
well, all of europe actually. even the "not so good, populist" countrys are treating their people better.
The U.S.A. is just a horrible place to live anyway...
@@biacampbell676 When I took a look at this I realised that even developing Balkan countries are not that bad in terms of health care
Seeing this make you know that USA it's not perfect like in the past everyone always says,for me I am going to UK to study and live there mostly because i love UK every vacation I go there or Texas if my vacation are aline with my best friend vacation
It just makes me cry. My insurance has a $4000 out of pocket maximum and I consider myself lucky. I fell and broke my arm. I worried about my injury but I worried about the cost more. Our medical systems look for ways to charge the insurance company and the patient as much as possible. A local health system in my town basically changes ownership of specialty practices to be part of the hospital so they can charge more and include things like a facility fee. Our system won’t change because (a) medical has strong lobbyist and (b) our legislators are investors making big bucks.
Lmaooo them selecting a plan had me on the floor because that’s me af 😂😅
Can we see a video of "What does US labour laws look like abroad?" Some of the stories that I've heard are more like 1800's Victorian England than 21st century advanced country
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Yes yes yes!!!! The lack of unions is shocking!!!!
@@wishiwaslizbennet924 theres no need for unions if you have decent labour laws. The USA has neither
What laws? Your employers can do pretty much what they want...
@@rtsharlotte Why exactly are you showing me all this?
I don't live in this dystopian nightmare called USA.
I live where the government cares about their citizens.
All non-Americans please, please, please keep talking about how our health care system is dogshit. Maybe one day we'll get a president that actually listens.
healhcare, gunlaws, voter suppression, filibuster etc etc etc
@@pietsnotty8283 facts
@@pietsnotty8283 Well, when it comes to gun laws, it's a bit different.
There is a constitutional amendment that make all gun restriction laws illegal. So if you want to legally have gun control laws, you first need to remove that constitutional amendment.
@@Tjalve70 I thought most Americans are against guns, but the lobby is big. It's frightning how much gun violence and mass shootings there are. I like it in the movies, but i prefer my country where hardly anything happens (Netherlands).
The Swiss basically all have a weapon, but only 0,1% of deaths are by gun violence. They're being properly taught I guess... Anyways, like i said, its good here ;)
It is not up to the president. The whole system works around it, you will need to make a lot of changes to regulations, and so on. People get into the medical field to make big bucks, and take on huge loans for their studies in expectation thereof. Education plays into this, and so do the banks and feds. Same thing with minimum wage in the USA, infrastructure (suburbia vs. European towns) etc.
My brother works as a lead English Teacher for board of education in Japan. Once he had to assist a English teacher that had a medical issue that required a two day stay at a Japanese hospital. The teacher was charge less than 2000 dollars US equivalent for the stay, but was also reimbursed most of it. I think that teacher only payed about 800 for the hospital stay.
In US. A mere visit to ER would cost several thousands of dollars and it can vary depending on which hospital you go. There are hospitals that are more expensive than others. The cheaper hospitals are over run and unless a patient is on the brink of death, wait times of 4 hours or more is not uncommon. The ER doc will only consult patient for about 5 to 10 minutes, then order tests that are expensive separate costs from the actual ER visit. An actual stay at a US hospital can ruin people financially, it’s that expensive.
At least it looks like Finland doesn’t have dental care from the guy they interviewed 🙃
I don't even know why people would call the U.S. a developed country
Because we have far higher salaries and standard of living than the worthless peasants in the EU/commonwealth sewer.
I am from Bonaire, part of the Netherlands Caribbean. Three years ago i had cataract on both eyes where i was nearly blind. For surgery I had to fly to the neighbouring island Curacao.
I got to choose someone to accompany me. Everything was payed for by our care system, that includes two flights, five nights in a hotel, taxis, surgery, medication and even pocket money for lunch and dinner. And that I had to do two times. Now that is freedom. I can see perfect now, not even need glasses anymore. I am so grateful for our system :-)
Toch wel fijn dat we zo'n systeem hebben, dat je je niet zorgen hoeft te maken of het wel kunt betalen. Groeten uit Nederland.
So the healthcare system at NL Antilles still runs as before its dissolution? Bonaire and Curacao have already become different political entities since 2010.
@@ThatSilentGuy As far as I know Bonaire belongs to the BES, Bonaire, St Eustatius and Saba, Islands and are a special municipality of the Netherlands and Are called Netherlands Caribbean. There is no more NL Antilles! Aruba, Curacao and St. Maarten are on there own now. With somewhat support from the Netherlands.
And all I know our health care just rules. It`s awesome. We even work together with Columbia for very special surgeries or complicated cases. Planes are ready to fly us there.
Yes, and now you can hopefully work, earn money and pay tax. Health care is an investment into citizens.
@@yottaforce thats what americans dont seem to get, it is an investment and act of solidarity into its citizen, just as education is - if your whole family and friends get bankcrupt or have to care for you and you are never able to do anything in your life again because of some health issues, that brings a whole lot of people down with it economically - and getting sick is almost never someones own fault
*Only if someone ran on providing healthcare to every single American in the last presidential election...* 🤔
ya well you had Obama calling up the others running getting them to drop out at the same time & support Biden while telling Warren to stay in since god forbid if the people have a politician that isn't 100% owned by the rich in this country.
I would never vote for the republican or democrat parties as they are from my view human trash.
Only if the NYT endorsed that person... except they didn't. They supported the neoliberal candidate & now want to act like it's a problem that couldn't have been fixed
@@tofupowda Pretty hilarious how the NYT is posting this while having a hand in making sure Bernie didn't win... except not so much funny as infuriating.
And where will that "free" healthcare come from?
@@TruthIsTheNewHate84 Same place our “free” military protection comes from, princess
Poland here. When I was 8 I had some kind of throat surgery, my mom didn't pay a thing. When I was 18 I had horrible stomach pain, which was caused by effects of bad diet. I didn't pay for transport (I was taken to hospital by an ambulance), I didn't pay for diet plan, I didn't pay for stay, I didn't pay for surgery. And while our medical system is wonky too (eg doctors ignoring obvious signs, I suffered from it too as I was taken to hospital only after an injected painkiller didn't work), but not to this level.
wait til the other countries hear how the USDA is subsidizing the the mass-agriculture of meat, dairy, soy/corn (as byproducts or feed), but do not subsidize fruits and veggies farmers which leaves many of of our rural, agricultural regions in FOOD DESERTS and jobless (and clearly urban areas, who have little farmland and rely on US ethical farming). Wait til these other countries hear how this incentivizes mass agriculture to sell to fast food chains and thats why poor Americans can afford a cheap McDonald's meal over a home-cooked meal - their nearest grocery store only has packaged foods, but they wouldn't have time to cook anyway because they work 60-70 hours a week AT mcdonalds, because it's the one of the only reliable jobs in the middle of their rural town. Wait til you guys hear how this debilitates poor Americans into further health issues, which they then cannot afford to get treated for because the FDA AND USDA WORK TOGETHER FYI...fyi...the usda gives you bad nutritional advice that is greenlighted by the fda, and then when the fda sees the health issues its caused its people through such bad nutritional advice, they see exactly what medicines are in demand and keep them high instead of negotiating - I'm sure the FDA'S best friends in big pharma appreciate them being so considerate of their profits. I may sound like a loony, but you can fact check the things I've said. I may not have summed it up perfectly, but it's true
That is what legalizing bribes does to you.
A year and a bit ago, I spent one week in a Canadian hospital ... a brand new, state of the art one I will add. The bill waiting for me at the end was for $0.00 The local health authority did try to charge me for a "private room" but that was immediately dropped when it was pointed out that this ultra-modern hospital only had single rooms and there are no wards. $0.00
Then a few months later, Americans living an hour's drive from me were dying at 3 x times the per capita rate as were our citizens of Covid 19. What did Trump say about it? "Canadian health care is a DISIATAH! ... a DISASTAH!!" Americans have been lied to for so long (and they don't seem to "get out" much") that they really haven't a clue about how health care works around the planet.
How the American government treats its citizens "the less they know the more we can get away with"
@@timhamock2996 ... and then they constantly perpetuate the myth that you are "FREE"
If you can't be a role model, the least you can do is be a warning....
@@timhamock2996 This. 100% this. Our citizens are totally brainwashed and the government loves it. They can do literally anything and get away with it.
At that point Health became a lucrative buisness in America
I'm from Texas and I'm embarrassed and enraged at our system. I was out of work for 3 months due to a fractured collarbone and ribs. I lost thousands in wages because my job didn't cover me, and forced to pay thousands more in outrageous medical fees. Now I'll have to work overtime shifts for at least 5 months to make up the losses.
I live in the UK, fractured my elbow and had 6 weeks off, Payed nothing for getting my arm fixed though the NHS and because the UK has 28 days paid leave and I work 4 days a week I got paid my normal wage for my time off and I still have 4 days left for a week off at Christmas.
Completely different world, to think I used to want to move to the USA when I was a kid.
we have short-term disability coverage over here in Canada. But then again, socialist policies are frowned upon over there in the US.
this is madness... hard working citizen who are the foundation of this country should deserve the medical care at fair price...
@@Aron-ru5zk Hollywood does give a false impression of USA eh
Secretly Communist America, control by Financial Abuse. Next year in america: Breath tax, you wanna breathe? You gotta pay for it. Nobody's saying you HAVE to breathe, that's your decision, your right as an american to choose.
In Malaysia all general consultation and medication, only cost RM1 that is USD 0.24 for government run hospital and clinics. all other serious operation are subsidized by the government too. If you wanted to seek extra service you can choose private hospital.
I live in Canada. I had a heart attack about a year ago. Hospital care didn't cost me anything. But I was abandoned subsequently - I am having continuing heart problems but don't have a GP, and can't get a cardiologist.
bUt ThAt'S sOcIaLiSm.
Ughhh I cry everytime. Give us our healthcare!
Socialism or Communism and everything else that doesn’t go with the Capitalism narrative.
"BeRnIe CaNnOt WiN ThE GeNeRaL EleCtIoN BeCaUsE PeOpLe lOvE ThE PrIvAtE iNsUrAnCe RaCkEt"
"Harsh" capitalism is worse. A democratic Socialist country can have some level of capitalism in it and still prosper & has happier people than what is happening in the U.S. , (mind you U.S. surgeons are probably the best for bullet wounds because of all the practice they have had.)
. Russia & China & N.K. have a dictatorship socialism meaning your opinion does not count for anything. These are the people #45 was dancing with and wanted to emulate.(copy) Screw democracy and your right to voice your opinion. Once you lose it it would take a bigger uprising than on Jan 6 to bring democracy back.
@@bunzeebear2973 Republicans and Trumpsters go hand in hand with dictatorship and autocracy (history has proven that). It's sad
America is the only nation that can't understand that guns are bad & free heath care is good. On the chart of the nation's with the longest life expectancy the US is down at 48th. The sad thing is that Americans actually campaign to be ranked so low, smh.
No such thing as free healthcare. Only complete idiots believe that nonsense.
Life expectancy isn’t driven by healthcare.
You’re extremely uneducated.
Don't bother, Father son is a liar and a troll. He's a butt hurt American who cannot stand that other countries have it better than the US.
Companies also change the health insurance provider often, so if you need an operation that will take several months to plan and schedule you have to be mindful of the time of year, otherwise you may spend a lot of money, to find that you are out of network. My mom found out she had some large tumors in July, but they said it would take 9 months to fix, so she has to wait till January to switch
This reminds me of one of my American English tutors, who have lived in Japan for a long time, criticized the Japanese healthcare system like "Why do I have to pay for the universal healthcare system? I'm healthy, and I'm not going to get sick. This is unfair." I'm so sad that I was a beginner-level English speaker back then, so I couldn't let him understand the benefit of it at the time...
Welp... That's a shame for him man
He underestimated it
well, karma will coming like a missile to that teacher
Unfortunate he couldn't see it for the good that it was. Came from a 3rd world country, moved to Japan. The healthcare here is honestly one of the reasons why I wanna stay for good. Never gotten too sick, but having reliable health insurance here helped me improve health wise because I could actually afford to go to the hospital or dentist. One may not be sick now, but you never know in the future. Only then will one realize the importance of good health care
lol such a classic american abroad
As if he will stay young and healthy forever...
"When you lose your job, that's when society should help you." Probably a foreign concept to many people who live in a country where those same people say that "universal health care" would mean the equivalent of taking your stuff from you.
Trump's idea was to make sure nobody loses their job by creating more jobs than workers. The people who saw no value in that were those who didn't want to work. They caught a Democrat disease called "society owes me".
An American here, sharing my experiences.
My dad has a brain tumor and his condition got worse because our insurance wouldn't pay for a medication he needed and we couldn't afford. He ended up having a seizure because of it and the activity caused his tumor to start growing again along with paralyze his entire right half of his body. So even if we do have Health insurance, for treatments and medications it has to be something that our insurance will cover or at least mostly cover (since sometimes they don't cover all the expenses or just don't cover certain medicines) and even then there's weather or not the place your going to (like a doctor, optometrist, dentist, mental health care, ect...) accepts your insurance.
For my monthly PPO insurance payment it's $952.62, but there's still the co-pays. There's also the issue of in-network and out-of-network doctors and hospitals, meaning which doctors and hospitals the insurance would cover and those they wouldn't. There are also differences between the quality of medical care providers for those with an HMO or PPO. I don't remember what those acronyms mean, but I know it's a monetary based system. Like everything else in America. There's also confusion regarding which doctors are in or out of network, often times the info is out of date or wrongly listed. Before the AHCA, a person would be denied coverage if they had a preexisting health condition. Granted the AHCA was defective, but that was the one good thing sbout it. A person goes to the doctor because they're sick, but in America you can't go to the doctor if you're sick because the insurance won't cover you. And on top of all of that there's the racism. Some doctors won't mention certain medications or procedures if your considered to be high risk, such as people who are elderly, black or poor. The two last of those three are sometimes synomous. Sometimes they won't perform certain procedures if they're too expensive or they'll only perform those that are deemed fitting for one's socio-economic status. It's common for certain procedures or medications to not be mentioned by the health care practitioners of black patients due to their socio-economic status. Other times the insurance will just outright deny them. This is what it means to be an American and most particularly a black American.
When Thomas Jefferson wrote we are entitled to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" what he really meant was choose the cheapest option.
It was supposed to be the world's first multiple choice question Life, Liberty or the Pursuit of happiness.
Joking aside this video and there are quite a few more, is really depressing. Knowing that my Cousin and His family have to live with that on a daily basis.
Never trust a man promoting freedom who wouldn’t free his own daughter from slavery
@@evileyez504 I tried to dive into the (interracial) relations of the Jefferson-Wayles-Hemings-Eppes families a while ago, but it was too complicated, intertwined. I was baffled to read that Jefferson freed Sally Hemings, with whom he had 4(6) children, only after his death !! I thought that all his 4 children were freed when he died. Or was it that Harriet was not officially free ?
(btw A reason 'might' be that under a Virginia law a freed enslaved person , had to leave the state within a year.)
Anyway it is bizar. Sally and jefferson's wife Martha were defacto half-sisters (with 25 yr age difference) and thus Sally's children and Jefferson's daughter Martha did not have 50% , but 75% the same blood line and DNA and yet they had such different positions !
Originally, he wrote ...'and the pursuit of wealth', which is closer to the truth of the US.
When i was younger i saw the USA always as a dream destination. The more i learned about the "land of the free" the more i was happy to stay were i am.
Good, we don’t want cowards here.
@@fatherson5907 So why are you living in the US then?
@@fatherson5907 Good, stay there. We don't want DNA infested with ignorance spread across the globe.
@@brozius He's delusional and brainwashed. It's sad to see.
@@gabago0l I'm over the sad part, he's just pathetic.
I'm loving these, i think i first got introduced to NYT with the article about the girl abused by her mom. That being said if you're not paying for your hc someone else is and when it's mandated as a tax it leads to corruption like in Russia. I pay quarterly hc taxes and the hc system is understaffed and underfinanced countrywide.
It goes to show that someone is making money here - and it’s being shared with the government or those in charge of making decisions. We have to ask: who is getting rich off of this? Who is making all the money? My father was a doctor and my wife a nurse and yes they make a good living - but it doesn’t go to them. My family is also suffering the complication of choosing the right plan - etc - it’s so complicated - it makes you want to go without it.