If you want for me to give you a taste of the more advanced stuff, I could go over building custom sets or actually better yet, building the perfect relic set and Guild Quests as a whole in MH4U! :)
@Gaming_Master - and than theres me taking 24h to beat my first great Maccao lul. My time in darksouls were easier 😂 no really people find dirfferent things hard
@@nyaruhyodo989 those are legals. the illegal ones are those that have a skill cap that goes beyond the naturale cap like: in gen tenderizer has a cap of 5 so having one that have 6 or more is illegal while in GenU the max cap is 6
Robby Nightmare ah that explains why I have a tenderizer 6 in gen u after I sent my data from gen in, and then did a few runs, and now I have a tenderizer plus 6, because I'm playing gen u, that makes sense
Tarbos Aeon if you’re talking about anything but MHW, then absolutely. MHW got me into the other Monster Hunter games, and I love the other games and their much greater variety and end-game content, but MHW actually let me go hunt monsters without needing a college degree in math/statistics!
I know, right? I remember the days when I had to spend over 5 hours figuring how to get mixed sets with the skills I wanted, and figuring out how that would play out. Not just the typical endgame "best sets", but even just sets that I make for fun.
It's really, really not that bad. MH4U was my first MH game where I went into G-rank and honestly, you can beat all that shit without armor skills (though they help). People just overhype the difficulty.
I got 3u as my second monster hunter game (first was gen) and by just having full goldbeard set I was able to solo Dire Miralis on the second attept cause I thought there was an underwater ballista and i wasted time searching
My monster hunter teach tried to ease me in with Low rank. Once I had hit high rank, he had me fight some of the monsters myself so I learned what the monsters tells were. Once I hit G rank he told me the gloves were off. I had told him it was only a great jaggie.... Got two tapped. As he had the smuggest of smiles...
"I mean, dude. I just want to hunt monsters with cool stuff NOW, a set I'm only gonna get when I'm 200 hours into the game isn't going to help me. I KNOW I can make a decent starting set with the Low Rank access I currently have, just tell me what to do." ~ What I imagine the newbie hunter's response to be Although to that, most vets would just say to make BuJaBuJaBu and be done with it until High Rank. Hardly interesting, that. Plus, no defensive skills which newbies would actually benefit from.
For MHGU, Arzuros armor is pretty good for entry High and G rank. Easy to get and gives a defense boost and divine blessing. For Low rank you can honestly just wear whatever.
I thought it was tigrex since its yellow, has fangs in the chestpiece and spiked shoulders, but I can't actually pinpoint what armor is it based off. It would be kinda funny if the guy talking about dps was wearing golden rath, so I didn't even consider that one. Maybe its seregios but then it doesn't have the scaly look.
My brother: *Has armor sets, charms, and gems that perfectly boost his Hunting horn builds.* Me: *Has one armor set and a few different weapons designed to make things die good.*
Elma Exxxtra Thicc But that's a gold rath set. *Boi do you even fashion hunter?* Also, now we can transmog so it's easier to get your fashion and skills than ever before.
I only know this because I've gotten gold rath armor, while I've seen tigrex armor. Tiggy armor is yellowish-brown while gold lune armor is the color of a goddang power ranger. Also, it has the blue plume, while Tiggy has lots of fangs and teeth in its armor. Horray for busted memory, letting me remember this while I forget what I was doing 30 minutes ago!
I didn't even consider that gold rath armor existed because it's kind've not good, practically, and also mediocre, visually. If I wanna look like I'm covered in bling, I'd rather just go with some seregios parts.
this is a real gem. You've made this video so that both experienced players and newcomers alike are able to find humor in their respective sides. I hope we get to see more of these "extended projects" in the future! Also, what do you prefer, RNG'd Charms or RNG'd Decorations?
Personally I prefer rng in charms. Its true that not having a certain charm with enough points and slots can bar you out of optimizing sets with an extra skill or 2, but deco rng can cause you to miss out on skills and builds entirely with no workaround. Especially with the final boss armor around, its easy to get a solid set of skills for any weapon.
Depends on the system. RNG decos fit World because of how the new skill system worked. But in the classic series, where skills need at least 10 points to activate, I believe crafted decos and RNG charms fit best.
400 hrs into world I finally got a horn maestro jewel, still don't have a guard up jewel for my GL and CB sets. RNG charms are better in that respect because u could still play what you wanted, RNG decos just frustrate me too much. Oh and I still only have 1 attack jewel
Teaching a new player the ways of the OG monster hunter won't work. Just send em' out in the wild. Had a hard time teaching a newbie back in 4u so I just brought him to fight a gold rajang,made him conscious about his equipment.
My buddies made me conscious of equipment in Freedom 2 by making me fight double tigrex, naked, with the starter light bowgun. I learned the hard way to min max skills rather than just get what looks pretty like I did in freedom 1.
khevin tokura one of my favorite ways of teaching my noob friends in 3U was taking them into a fight against Abyssal or Lucent while using sneak and smoke bombs.
There was an old saying. Victory teaches only one lesson, while Defeat teaches one thousand. So many of my "students" died to a uragaan for wear mismatch armor in high rank.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS. This has a satirical touch to it all but I mean really, it's all truly part of Monster Hunter. I was laughing throughout the entire video to the point that my roommate wanted to know what I was watching (she didn't understand... she's not a casual but not even a hunter to begin with). This is a true gem, great work with the animation and the dialogue!
Mhw: throws random shit together Every other mh game: spend 50 mins crafting and organizing decorations so you can farm one monster so you can do the same thing later
Random Decorations are just as bad. Charm Tables were only cancerous in MH3U, where they got locked once you make your character. I never found it an actual problem in the 4th Gen since most of the time you can get a good charm (either through melding or just getting rewards). If you want an absolutely godly charm you do have to hope you get the better Charm Tables, but it'll be rare to randomly start up the game in a cursed table; nearly every charm table has great charms. And since armor building relies on decorations and slots, Talismans just add to sets. If I have to be honest, we should just leave the RNG to monster drops or at least make melding easier to do. :)
This is an amazing Animation with splendid voice acting. Nice work! Also I understand what G.Rath guy was saying but I agree with the New worlder's view of "You can play Monster Hunter, just by playing Monster Hunter" I mean what's the rush, it's no PVP game so you can enjoy it at your own pace. And honestly it's too tedious to do all the math work for the most optimal so I just estimate what would be the most effective with what I have.
OK, this is pretty damn hilarious! But to be honest, Old World armours aren't hard to understand. There's just a few key differences: 1: Rather than every single ability point giving you a small bonus, you are working towards point threshholds. In exchange, the ranks are often more meaningful. Generally speaking you pretty much always need +10 for Tier 1 of a skill 5 additional points for every new rank. For example: +10 in hearing gives you earplugs which completely negates normal monster roars. With +15 you gain High Grade Earplugs which negate all monster roars. 2: Gear can also have negative points. Certain abilities even have negative ranks, meaning that for example a build might have 10 negative points in vitality, resulting with you starting off with less base health. 3: Unlike in World where charms are craftable and decorations are obtained randomly, traditional MH games do it the other way around. You obtain Charms by mining and they have to a degree randomized skillpoints whereas decorations are simply craftable. You cannot upgrade either, instead you can simply craft stronger decorations, however that means that they will likely need more slots which also means that you cannot put them in every piece of armour. 4: Speaking off, slots and decorations aren't limited to High Rank anymore and you will generally find them on most pieces of gear. 5: Rather than having alpha, beta or gamma sets you usually have 2 sets of each armour: Blademaster and Gunner. With very few exceptions a set is usually only usable for either a melee fighter or a ranged fighter. If you currently have a bow or bowgun equipped you simply cannot wear Blademaster armour and vice versa, with most helmets being the exception. Blademaster armour has considerably higher defense whereas Gunner armour has better elemental resistances. Skills are also affected as skills that are exclusively usable on melee weapons like Handicraft or razor sharp won't even appear on gunner armour. 6: Gear slots: Unlike in World there are no different slot levels. There's simply a fixed amount, usually between one and three which determines how many and which decorations you slot in. High tier decorations usually will require at least two slots.
I never said there aren't a lot of differences, just that it isn't particularily hard to understand. As someone who started with a traditional MH game I can tell you that you can generally get the system down within the first few hours of play. It's only a little harder if you generally already have expectations because you know the system from World.
Meh, the world is a simpler system but more flexible by using one set. The old system is major pain in the net if you are trying to switch weapon, you are likely need to grind a whole new set of amor. Especially for G rank amor. That makes the game drag... alot.
In all seriousness, I actually DO like the overall feel of synergy with the old skill system. For the most part, MHW's skill system just doesn't have it when you can literally just add skills a la carte.... (PS - Then there's the irony that every hunter's wearing a set added with Iceborne)
I really like the ability to just throw on a ton of quality of life skills and not have to worry about some of the annoying B.S. plus it lets you go for fashion and slot in the skills you need.
I've been playing Monster Hunter for around 4 years now starting from World, and when I first stumbled upon this video I didn't have a clue as to what anyone was saying. The man in yellow armor was practically speaking a foreign language to me. Every year I would come back to this video, having played some of the older games and would test myself to see if I had learned all the concepts mentioned in this video. After all these years, I finally understand what he's saying. I have become a nerd.
cant people have fun cuz u want to speed run sorry but not everyone is a speed runner if u are tho get a bunch of friends to do gunner with you lol if people cant have fun playing how they want what is the point even
Well... You kind of are, but as long as you are getting away with it... You don't really need to start minmaxing and worrying about mixed sets until late High or G rank
This is me trying to help my friends who started in World trying to get to G rank in freedom Unite. I told them they were not ready but no, they said they could do it easy....They never got past black Gravios.
Listening to the whole skill and charm explanation brought back memories of my countless charm runs using the Sakura Method in Generations and save scumming the Melding Pot in 4U...all for the sole purpose of getting a +7 Handicraft talisman. Alas, RNGesus did not bless me.
Something something Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate permanent charm table and charm manipulation. Something something charm sniping offline save death resets. ... Why do I love this game, again? Oh right... the stagger-spamming adept Heavy Bowgun and Aerial Hammer...
I'm so glad that after I heard about the locked charm tables in 3U, I found out I was on a pretty alright one and didn't waste my 800 hours of playtime. Still, someone out there probably spent a lot of time a cursed table and just ended up having to make due, which must've sucked.
I'm saying GIGGINOX is cooler, but it is still a Khezu ripoff Even if it's an all stats up Both in my opinion are...mediocre but they actually are cool at the very least
Great video as Far as animation, art, and humor. Critiques: The sound mixing was off, but i liked the armor rattling ( The voices were too low and seemed to be at a similar level as the music), The master volume could be bumped up a bit too.
I always use a full set. Even with the ability to layer armor now i like just seeing what i can get out of a full set. Been doing it since 4u and it hasn't failed me yet
Casuals always dying, casuals always overkilling capture quest, casuals always send me flying or trip me, casuals always setting a trap for elder dragons, casuals always attack me or kicking me when quest is over.
to put it simply, you basically look at a piece of armor's skill points along with your charms and decos, and match those together to try and make a set you want.
Love watching this every day I hop onto MHGU. Fun trying to teach the 'New Worlders' how we OG Hunters do it. *breaks out the graph paper and No.2 pencils*
now that im playing MHW these video's make so much more sense i originally watch stuff like this out of curiosity but man was i lost but now now i understand it's all relative
*MHW Deviljho picks up a Plesioth and charges right for you* "DODGE THIS" But seriously though, Fashion Hunter or Casual Hunter ;P (even if "fashion" is just them rock hard abs of steel)
But we dont need to manage spreadsheets, we have programs to do that for us. Serious how long would it take to get anything done without ASS in the old system
Looking back at this as a long time fan i do miss having negitive skills, gave a sense of pro's and cons to things and added a level of complexity you could outright ignore with no real consequence besides being a little bad at something. Obviously i don't miss everything because they did streamline a lot of things, but i do miss some things. For instance gunner armors, i loved gunner armor designs. I hope they bring them back or give an option to change armor looks to appear as a gunner version
Ah the long process of maximizing your skills for a good run of hunts. Until you notice you are one slot short because of the freaking charm! The good old days.
420Praiseit Gitgudneosucksasstoo hey I’m curious who is this “gold rathian armor guy” cause one time when I was new to monster hunter I made a post in hell about how “op” gold rath armor was. I know it’s a stretch, but I got chewed out for that shit and I don’t want that to follow me
They're not that bad, they allow for sets that require specific talisman to be way easier to make simply do to the fact that they _allow_ duplicate talisman to drop otherwise, they would be even worse and far more RNG dependant
This was so good. As someone just getting into Monster Hunter from trying out Dauntless, but having friends who are *extremely* into Monster Hunter, I am seeing the humor on both sides of this. I shared this video with my friends, and they got a kick out of it as well. I've definitely heard the stories about how extensive the stats are, and how necessary they actually end up being. I'm trying to learn Hunting Horn, and I'm not sure how complex it can actually end up being, but the concept seems daunting. As someone who like bards in all shapes, sizes, and forms though, I had to try it out.
This was pretty good! I been following you on Twitter and know you been struggling with it as your first big project and it came out pretty good for the first full animation. I know you said you were struggling a lot with lip syncing and it could use a BIT more work, but other then that it was good. Also cool to see Yaro in this! But since MHW is my first Monster Hunter game, I won't lie and say that a lot of the jokes in this went a little over my head XD
Newbies that only have monster hunter world: Just hit hunter rank 50, man monster hunter generations ultimate will be so easy. After getting mhgu: WHY DO I KEEP FLEXING AFTER EVERY POTION!!!! WHY DOES A PINK MONKEY FARTING ON ME KEEP ME FROM USING POTIONS!!!!
Those problems don't sound any different from World. Potions take _forever_ to drink, and getting hit by anything (even merely being afflicted with poison because you didn't see the puddle) interrupts the heal and wastes the potion.
That is true but in world you are free to walk around and possibly avoid an attack, while as in other monster hunter titles you are immobilized and much more open to attack. Also. . . swivel here.
@@Jbirdie03 more open to attack, but significantly less likely to wander into another monster and aggro _that_ or stumble into an environmental hazard. The movement isn't all that fast either, being slower than walking with a HBG drawn, with the speed of the monsters and the size of their hitboxes you might as well be stationary.
Thank you for creating the best RetroSpecter profile picture to date! (P.s., I see what you did there on your name. Personally, I prefer the number 13 as well and I've only recently learned about To Kill A Mockingbird for the first time)
I'll learn about meta sets, but rarely use them since I prefer to look cooler, plus it adds to the challenge when you beat a monster with a non-meta set and rely on your skill
Eh.... always had some random ass set and beat G rank... Back in freedom it was some dumb af rathalos kut ku set in Unite it was a red shogun cenataur/akantor mix in G4U it was some weird Silversoul and something else mash up. until i got the starknight set (f*cking love it)... Only in world i actually decided to get some optimizing done. and FUCK RNG DECORATIONS. WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT IT`S A GOOD IDEA.
I did the same in 3u, since like through Tri & 3U I was without internet and a tiny ass T.V. that made the font impossible to read so.. Yeah. Same with not knowing I could charge with a lance. 4U opened my eyes when I had internet to understand things better.
As someone who has only played 4u and world, I am VERY happy with the new skill system. It's just better for the player. I know there was a masochistic satisfaction in lining up your build just right and unparalleled ecstasy when you get a great charm, but holy shit those systems were a nightmare to understand and deal with.
I'd love to see a middle ground. World made it so it's WAY too easy to have EVERYTHING, but in Gen/GU/Older games, it feels like a chore to try and create builds, especially for new players.
My cousin was the guy in Yellow armor and I was the guy in the hunters set but the OLD hunter set. When getting to G rank I just did my thing and still complete things like he did. Just without the number crunchy just making my own build for my own play style. Guard up, guard +2, mega dash juice, and a lance/gunlance.
i dont want to sound elitist but... there is more beauty and depth in the old system than the more friendly new system... the old system sometimes will not allow you to use anything you want, what force you to make a choice in what you should sacrifice.. it was something like "with this combination i do more damage but if i get hit i probably will die asap... i should let this skill out for a bit extra survival?", or "fck i cannot get this 2 skill together cuz i dont have the correct charm"...
I'd say there's just more depth, there isn't much beauty in "oh boy another charm I don't need, time to grind for 3 more hours...yaaaaaaaaaay." lol I'm allot happier with the new system but I'd prefer if the RNG wasn't so random. I've farmed enough across the series, just give me a goal and let me get to it within 3 hunts at most for once. At this rate I'm just gonna beat a MH game naked again lol
Id rather farm talismans than decorations, if i get a decoration i dont need in world, i cant use it, if i get a slightly worse talisman in GU i can still fit it into a less optimal set
“Oh c’mon, I’m just going over the basics.” “Are you?”
Yes, Yes he is.
If you want for me to give you a taste of the more advanced stuff, I could go over building custom sets or actually better yet, building the perfect relic set and Guild Quests as a whole in MH4U! :)
Had to learn the hard way. No tutorials
He really is its terrific
I use to be very analytical when I play MH TRI and other mh , but while playing the same genre over the course of years now I kinda became a casual.
@Gaming_Master - and than theres me taking 24h to beat my first great Maccao lul. My time in darksouls were easier 😂 no really people find dirfferent things hard
*im scared cause I know everything the guy in yellow is saying*
yeah😂🤣😭😢😰😓
Same here! And I’m currently using that same armor set!
Jesus I feel like a nerd.....
XD. This is so true. Gog bless us for the Atahl-ka armor.
Wanna know madness? I never made it to G Rank and I can ACTUALLY understand what yellow dude is saying too!
**slaps top of armor**
This bad boi needs sum Tenderizer +6 and 3 slots talisman to work
I think those are illegal
Defcon I got one casually playing in Double Cross and now i'm in the FBI watch list
Defcon wait 3 slot talismans are illegal.... fuck I have 8 should I ditch them lmao
@@nyaruhyodo989 those are legals. the illegal ones are those that have a skill cap that goes beyond the naturale cap like: in gen tenderizer has a cap of 5 so having one that have 6 or more is illegal while in GenU the max cap is 6
Robby Nightmare ah that explains why I have a tenderizer 6 in gen u after I sent my data from gen in, and then did a few runs, and now I have a tenderizer plus 6, because I'm playing gen u, that makes sense
I didn't realize that being a monster hunter was the perfect way to prepare for an office job.
Tarbos Aeon if you’re talking about anything but MHW, then absolutely. MHW got me into the other Monster Hunter games, and I love the other games and their much greater variety and end-game content, but MHW actually let me go hunt monsters without needing a college degree in math/statistics!
I know, right? I remember the days when I had to spend over 5 hours figuring how to get mixed sets with the skills I wanted, and figuring out how that would play out. Not just the typical endgame "best sets", but even just sets that I make for fun.
I'd say it's the other way, an office job helps prepare you for monster hunter
That's because it is an office job.
Haha!...
Remember to file for another Charm run. Maximum of 5 minutes spent, OK? We have a tight schedule to keep.
Dude, Yellow knows what's up.
G Rank EATS new players alive. You gotta be READY.
It's really, really not that bad. MH4U was my first MH game where I went into G-rank and honestly, you can beat all that shit without armor skills (though they help). People just overhype the difficulty.
@@GrammerPancreas MH4U was my first MH game too and my blade kept bouncing off the mosters when i first got into G-rank.
I got 3u as my second monster hunter game (first was gen) and by just having full goldbeard set I was able to solo Dire Miralis on the second attept cause I thought there was an underwater ballista and i wasted time searching
high rank chewed me up and spat me out at first in 4u
My monster hunter teach tried to ease me in with Low rank. Once I had hit high rank, he had me fight some of the monsters myself so I learned what the monsters tells were. Once I hit G rank he told me the gloves were off. I had told him it was only a great jaggie.... Got two tapped. As he had the smuggest of smiles...
This was perfect
No need to crunch numbers if the roulette wheel takes away your equipment lol
Butts
*wiggles eyebrows*
Too perfect!
I have seen so many people in G-Rank with no armor skills active it just hurts me soo much.
Is this what it's like to be a pro in the old games? Because I'm terrified to be one eventually
"LISTEN."
I'M TEACHING YOU HOW TO OPTIMIZE YOUR SETS. IF YOU DON'T LEARN NOW YOU'LL NEVER SURVIVE G RANK!!!
This is every top tier G rank hunter trying to talk to a newbie that knows nothing XD
"I mean, dude. I just want to hunt monsters with cool stuff NOW, a set I'm only gonna get when I'm 200 hours into the game isn't going to help me. I KNOW I can make a decent starting set with the Low Rank access I currently have, just tell me what to do." ~ What I imagine the newbie hunter's response to be
Although to that, most vets would just say to make BuJaBuJaBu and be done with it until High Rank. Hardly interesting, that. Plus, no defensive skills which newbies would actually benefit from.
For MHGU, Arzuros armor is pretty good for entry High and G rank. Easy to get and gives a defense boost and divine blessing. For Low rank you can honestly just wear whatever.
I wore Maccao because it looks good. Dodging is the absolute first thing you learn, not low rank armour.
Crimson Quropeco and Deviljho say hello to me at high rank in MH3rdportable and it doesn't end too well.
Yess,it was me
Being able to understand the Tigrex guy perfectly.
I thought it was a sergious armor.....
I thought it was tigrex since its yellow, has fangs in the chestpiece and spiked shoulders, but I can't actually pinpoint what armor is it based off.
It would be kinda funny if the guy talking about dps was wearing golden rath, so I didn't even consider that one.
Maybe its seregios but then it doesn't have the scaly look.
The guy is wearing a gold rathian armor, here see for yourselves i.imgur.com/eQYuCtK.jpg
Oh yeah I forgot transmogging was a thing.
Golden lune set
My brother: *Has armor sets, charms, and gems that perfectly boost his Hunting horn builds.*
Me: *Has one armor set and a few different weapons designed to make things die good.*
Me with crimson fatty high rank and seregios high rank and shagaru armors maced to needing g rank spheres:
Hehe shagaru glaive go BOING
ahtal ka armor man
Yellow guy is me every time I see a dude with no active skills in a hub
gotta check the guild cards instead
if a guy with no active skills has done the hr village then he doesn't neeed skills
But see, the Tigrex guy is a casual too, because he's prioritizing build optimization over fashion. Everyone knows that fashion hunter predates all.
Elma Exxxtra Thicc But that's a gold rath set.
*Boi do you even fashion hunter?*
Also, now we can transmog so it's easier to get your fashion and skills than ever before.
Oh shit you're right. I'm such a scrub. Send help.
I only know this because I've gotten gold rath armor, while I've seen tigrex armor. Tiggy armor is yellowish-brown while gold lune armor is the color of a goddang power ranger. Also, it has the blue plume, while Tiggy has lots of fangs and teeth in its armor.
Horray for busted memory, letting me remember this while I forget what I was doing 30 minutes ago!
I didn't even consider that gold rath armor existed because it's kind've not good, practically, and also mediocre, visually. If I wanna look like I'm covered in bling, I'd rather just go with some seregios parts.
Fashion is the real end game!
“I know things are different around here.”
Every Thunder Monster Ever: Yeah. You could say it’s quite the CULTURE SHOCK, isn’t it?
That's not true, Yamastucami isn't in here, nor is Baleful Giganox.
yamatsukami was a thunder monster? I mean, I know it let loose great thunderbugs, but I wouldn't think that counted.
@@gregorymckenzie7511 he definitly wasnt, he did dragon damage
That's what I thought. Thanks.
Sean KingKomodo it’s nice to see them back after every monster in world was weak to thunder
I relate with the dude in yellow armor *WAY* too much.
Teach me senpai
this is a real gem. You've made this video so that both experienced players and newcomers alike are able to find humor in their respective sides. I hope we get to see more of these "extended projects" in the future!
Also, what do you prefer, RNG'd Charms or RNG'd Decorations?
Personally I prefer rng in charms. Its true that not having a certain charm with enough points and slots can bar you out of optimizing sets with an extra skill or 2, but deco rng can cause you to miss out on skills and builds entirely with no workaround. Especially with the final boss armor around, its easy to get a solid set of skills for any weapon.
Depends on the system. RNG decos fit World because of how the new skill system worked. But in the classic series, where skills need at least 10 points to activate, I believe crafted decos and RNG charms fit best.
RNG'd Charms. Charm autism is a little more lenient versus Decoration autism being hard fixed to THAT ONE DECORATION.
400 hrs into world I finally got a horn maestro jewel, still don't have a guard up jewel for my GL and CB sets. RNG charms are better in that respect because u could still play what you wanted, RNG decos just frustrate me too much. Oh and I still only have 1 attack jewel
pun spotted
You don't need charms if you use Prowler Mode. :^)
Obvious bait is obvious nice try.
You don't need skill if you use Prowler mode :^)
Eric Gerald Ha exactly you can have no skills on a Prowler and still slay monsters.
And a butterknife would still hurt a Monster more than a team of prowlers in GenU. I loved Prowler but this nerf made them but *existant* in G-Rank.
Are you sure you are using them the right way? I've seen people absolute wreck shit with Prowler
Teaching a new player the ways of the OG monster hunter won't work. Just send em' out in the wild. Had a hard time teaching a newbie back in 4u so I just brought him to fight a gold rajang,made him conscious about his equipment.
Shit works
My buddies made me conscious of equipment in Freedom 2 by making me fight double tigrex, naked, with the starter light bowgun. I learned the hard way to min max skills rather than just get what looks pretty like I did in freedom 1.
Sometimes you just gotta send them out in the wild to die,I mean to learn.
khevin tokura one of my favorite ways of teaching my noob friends in 3U was taking them into a fight against Abyssal or Lucent while using sneak and smoke bombs.
There was an old saying. Victory teaches only one lesson, while Defeat teaches one thousand. So many of my "students" died to a uragaan for wear mismatch armor in high rank.
I'm so glad I started with Freedom Unite. heck I even Miss the negative food skills
f1 was like balls deep
jesus its like you need everything just to win
*cough* unlucky felyne *cough*
Yes, I remember the good ol days.
Man. The good ol days of PLESIOTH HIP CHECKS
FU too dude!❤
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS. This has a satirical touch to it all but I mean really, it's all truly part of Monster Hunter. I was laughing throughout the entire video to the point that my roommate wanted to know what I was watching (she didn't understand... she's not a casual but not even a hunter to begin with). This is a true gem, great work with the animation and the dialogue!
Ur roommate need to learn this n how a hunter lives :v
Take a shot every time someone calls their set a build.
Mhw: throws random shit together
Every other mh game: spend 50 mins crafting and organizing decorations so you can farm one monster so you can do the same thing later
This is one of those gem videos that I somehow just get the urge to rewatch from time to time.
Let's all be honest, Charms tables are cancer.
Random Decorations are just as bad. Charm Tables were only cancerous in MH3U, where they got locked once you make your character. I never found it an actual problem in the 4th Gen since most of the time you can get a good charm (either through melding or just getting rewards).
If you want an absolutely godly charm you do have to hope you get the better Charm Tables, but it'll be rare to randomly start up the game in a cursed table; nearly every charm table has great charms. And since armor building relies on decorations and slots, Talismans just add to sets.
If I have to be honest, we should just leave the RNG to monster drops or at least make melding easier to do. :)
@@Senordisastermaster you're god damn right
Charm Tables are so large since 4u that they dont matter
I thought they got rid of them from 4u onwards
p3rd and its multiple restarts just to get the right charm
I’m literally the dude in the yellow and i’m screaming
1:16 Me trying to make my own mixed armor set.
Pretty much all of my mixed armor I make myself, I never used Athenas ASS. Not until I got 100+ into late game 4U.
Zachary Coutts Same
I just use Kiranico and see what i can do by myself xd
This is an amazing Animation with splendid voice acting. Nice work! Also I understand what G.Rath guy was saying but I agree with the New worlder's view of "You can play Monster Hunter, just by playing Monster Hunter" I mean what's the rush, it's no PVP game so you can enjoy it at your own pace. And honestly it's too tedious to do all the math work for the most optimal so I just estimate what would be the most effective with what I have.
I like your profile pic OwO
@@litsoul6427 I see your a fellow green tea lover. Truly your person of good taste.
Agree but thats the golden lune set not Tigrex
@@Octoxrkr Thanks for the correction. Man It's been so long since I've been to the old world.
Sylver Lune Thanks sir. They both are cute cinnamon rolls who deserve each other and all the good thing in this world
New world armour is a blessing, but there’s an undeniable satisfaction when you get that one charm to complete an old world set
When hunters say the basics, it's basically everything
Really fun, MHGH animations are rare now.
OK, this is pretty damn hilarious!
But to be honest, Old World armours aren't hard to understand. There's just a few key differences:
1: Rather than every single ability point giving you a small bonus, you are working towards point threshholds. In exchange, the ranks are often more meaningful. Generally speaking you pretty much always need +10 for Tier 1 of a skill 5 additional points for every new rank. For example: +10 in hearing gives you earplugs which completely negates normal monster roars. With +15 you gain High Grade Earplugs which negate all monster roars.
2: Gear can also have negative points. Certain abilities even have negative ranks, meaning that for example a build might have 10 negative points in vitality, resulting with you starting off with less base health.
3: Unlike in World where charms are craftable and decorations are obtained randomly, traditional MH games do it the other way around. You obtain Charms by mining and they have to a degree randomized skillpoints whereas decorations are simply craftable. You cannot upgrade either, instead you can simply craft stronger decorations, however that means that they will likely need more slots which also means that you cannot put them in every piece of armour.
4: Speaking off, slots and decorations aren't limited to High Rank anymore and you will generally find them on most pieces of gear.
5: Rather than having alpha, beta or gamma sets you usually have 2 sets of each armour: Blademaster and Gunner. With very few exceptions a set is usually only usable for either a melee fighter or a ranged fighter. If you currently have a bow or bowgun equipped you simply cannot wear Blademaster armour and vice versa, with most helmets being the exception. Blademaster armour has considerably higher defense whereas Gunner armour has better elemental resistances. Skills are also affected as skills that are exclusively usable on melee weapons like Handicraft or razor sharp won't even appear on gunner armour.
6: Gear slots: Unlike in World there are no different slot levels. There's simply a fixed amount, usually between one and three which determines how many and which decorations you slot in. High tier decorations usually will require at least two slots.
my brain died
"They're not hard to understand!"
*Proceeds to write an entire essay*
Uuuuh....huh...
I never said there aren't a lot of differences, just that it isn't particularily hard to understand. As someone who started with a traditional MH game I can tell you that you can generally get the system down within the first few hours of play. It's only a little harder if you generally already have expectations because you know the system from World.
This replies is pretty effing hilarious! Oh man how perfect, thanks for the laugh.
Meh, the world is a simpler system but more flexible by using one set. The old system is major pain in the net if you are trying to switch weapon, you are likely need to grind a whole new set of amor. Especially for G rank amor. That makes the game drag... alot.
Oh god...we G-Rank veterans can relate to the yellow boi soooo much....
I just started showing my buddy the old world after playing world and Iceborne. This came to mind
In all seriousness, I actually DO like the overall feel of synergy with the old skill system. For the most part, MHW's skill system just doesn't have it when you can literally just add skills a la carte....
(PS - Then there's the irony that every hunter's wearing a set added with Iceborne)
Fashion makes the deadly hunter, not a skill that lets me make my own dung bombs.
Stratelier I base it off looks if at least one of the abilities applies to my weapon and if it has decent defense compared to my last armor.
FASHION HUNTERS UNITE
Stratelier good thing we can do both now with the transmod thing they added in mhgu
I really like the ability to just throw on a ton of quality of life skills and not have to worry about some of the annoying B.S. plus it lets you go for fashion and slot in the skills you need.
Every time a new monster hunter is announced this always comes to mind
That’s the good old monster Hunter talk I know and love and missed.
Being an SnS main,the guy that was oiling his sword just fucking cracked me up,cause in reality that is all i do! xD
There's something about the animation here that's really satisfying.
I've been playing Monster Hunter for around 4 years now starting from World, and when I first stumbled upon this video I didn't have a clue as to what anyone was saying. The man in yellow armor was practically speaking a foreign language to me.
Every year I would come back to this video, having played some of the older games and would test myself to see if I had learned all the concepts mentioned in this video.
After all these years, I finally understand what he's saying. I have become a nerd.
Am I casual?
cause all I ever do is wear entire monster armor sets. And switch am out depending on the monster
That or adept my way to victory
Yes, yes you are. And if you're having fun then keep doing it. Your quests will run a little longer, thats about it.
cant people have fun cuz u want to speed run
sorry but not everyone is a speed runner if u are tho get a bunch of friends to do gunner with you lol
if people cant have fun playing how they want what is the point even
Fun is for fking casuals 😉
Well... You kind of are, but as long as you are getting away with it... You don't really need to start minmaxing and worrying about mixed sets until late High or G rank
@@darthplagueis13 even this is a bit iffy, I solo'ed G Rank not giving a damn about min maxing. It was 4U but still.
I don't know what is sadder. The pro explaining to the rookie the optimal loadout in a complicated way or that I followed him completely with ease.
I just noticed his hand is backwards at 1:07 and I can't unsee that now
This is me trying to help my friends who started in World trying to get to G rank in freedom Unite. I told them they were not ready but no, they said they could do it easy....They never got past black Gravios.
Man i never finished unite, dual black diablos on g-rank is where i quit, that shit wasnt fun anymore
@@wlanalex oh it was for those who unlocked migatte no gokui right there in the middle of the fight
Natural selection had to play its part at some point
Going feom going from world straight to FU, im surprised they made trough silver rathalos and rajang
Ohh those were the days lol
Dude, this is seriously one of the funniest Monster Hunter Animation I've seen!
Listening to the whole skill and charm explanation brought back memories of my countless charm runs using the Sakura Method in Generations and save scumming the Melding Pot in 4U...all for the sole purpose of getting a +7 Handicraft talisman.
Alas, RNGesus did not bless me.
Something something Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate permanent charm table and charm manipulation.
Something something charm sniping offline save death resets.
... Why do I love this game, again?
Oh right... the stagger-spamming adept Heavy Bowgun and Aerial Hammer...
I'm so glad that after I heard about the locked charm tables in 3U, I found out I was on a pretty alright one and didn't waste my 800 hours of playtime. Still, someone out there probably spent a lot of time a cursed table and just ended up having to make due, which must've sucked.
I prefer Gigginox to Khezu. Sorry. One looks like a freak alien. The other looks like a naked, veiny chicken.
I'm saying GIGGINOX is cooler, but it is still a Khezu ripoff
Even if it's an all stats up
Both in my opinion are...mediocre but they actually are cool at the very least
I really felt the "You.... Fucking CASUALS..." at the end there lol
The reason why you don't have to approach casuals is because they won't listen until they understand the harsh truth of the game.
Absolutely like deserving
Found your video in Twitter and fortunately clicked on It. Nice job
Great video as Far as animation, art, and humor. Critiques: The sound mixing was off, but i liked the armor rattling ( The voices were too low and seemed to be at a similar level as the music), The master volume could be bumped up a bit too.
I always use a full set. Even with the ability to layer armor now i like just seeing what i can get out of a full set. Been doing it since 4u and it hasn't failed me yet
Casuals always dying, casuals always overkilling capture quest, casuals always send me flying or trip me, casuals always setting a trap for elder dragons, casuals always attack me or kicking me when quest is over.
This hits me too facking hard, im the only old world hunter in a group of 8, i might've had a moment exacly like this
to put it simply, you basically look at a piece of armor's skill points along with your charms and decos, and match those together to try and make a set you want.
*PTSD KICKING IN*
Playing this video on on 2X when the rant starts will give you the new world players view
1:35 should become a meme
Love watching this every day I hop onto MHGU. Fun trying to teach the 'New Worlders' how we OG Hunters do it. *breaks out the graph paper and No.2 pencils*
I love being a FU hipster because I can say "FU!" and only the other people that FU'd truly know...
I'm taking about green plesioth btw...
The good old days
now that im playing MHW these video's make so much more sense i originally watch stuff like this out of curiosity but man was i lost but now now i understand it's all relative
Ha, who care abouts skills, optimization and all that jazz when you're fabulous!
Yup. With timing and care you can beat everything naked!
*MHW Deviljho picks up a Plesioth and charges right for you* "DODGE THIS"
But seriously though, Fashion Hunter or Casual Hunter ;P
(even if "fashion" is just them rock hard abs of steel)
Even if I’m the prettiest Hunter around knowing my set isn’t optimal just bugs me internally
Actually criminal this doesn't have more views and like man great job
I hope this blows up that was awesome.
And the thing is, what he's teaching you is actually stuff you should know already.
But we dont need to manage spreadsheets, we have programs to do that for us.
Serious how long would it take to get anything done without ASS in the old system
Umm... Three days?
@@gregorymckenzie7511
Oof
What's that?
@@alwest4472 "Athena's Armor Search System". It was a program for building armor sets in pre-World Monster Hunter games.
Honestly? It used to take me 15-30 minutes with a pen and paper. I dont miss it tho
Looking back at this as a long time fan i do miss having negitive skills, gave a sense of pro's and cons to things and added a level of complexity you could outright ignore with no real consequence besides being a little bad at something.
Obviously i don't miss everything because they did streamline a lot of things, but i do miss some things.
For instance gunner armors, i loved gunner armor designs. I hope they bring them back or give an option to change armor looks to appear as a gunner version
Ah the long process of maximizing your skills for a good run of hunts. Until you notice you are one slot short because of the freaking charm! The good old days.
Bless the nesset armor and transmoggin
One of the funniest animations I've seen in some time :D :D :D
Sums up everything perfectly and the yellow guy is so on point.
Great job :)
Everyone coming in from MHW should just play cat! boom.
Everyone should just play cats anyway
Let's get the entire community playing cats so we can rename the series to Meownster Hunter
doing a prowler only run i miss havign nice and shiny armor and weapons and a lance but damm big piercing a gammoth is soo satisfying whit a prowler
Nah Prowlers are too hard for MHW baby brains.
I don’t like to be toxic about video games. But I couldn’t agree more.
420Praiseit Gitgudneosucksasstoo hey I’m curious who is this “gold rathian armor guy” cause one time when I was new to monster hunter I made a post in hell about how “op” gold rath armor was. I know it’s a stretch, but I got chewed out for that shit and I don’t want that to follow me
This is actually the most beautiful thing I’ve seen in ages and has made my night
2:56 lmao
I like to return once in a while to this video to have a good laugh, cause that's the good old charm of older MH games!
Of course Golden Lune armor guy would talk about negative skills, considering he’s chilling out with -55 thunder resistance...
Doesn't matter.
He is pro!
He probably has a Thunder Res Armor set somewhere.
@@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx ahahah that ivory lagiacrus set is lookin pretty good right now 👌🏻
This connected to me on a spiritual level
why am I still playing MH3U and understanding everything the hunter in (Gold Rathian?) armor is saying?!
wait is that 3u?
@@indahdzh5026 Yeah, charm tables were in 3U I believe. Worst design choice in 3rd Generation by far.
Charm tables are still a thing, and the locked charm tables were a bug.
@@rosecatse Wait really? I thought that the curse was only relegated to 3U...
They're not that bad, they allow for sets that require specific talisman to be way easier to make simply do to the fact that they _allow_ duplicate talisman to drop
otherwise, they would be even worse and far more RNG dependant
I have overwhelmed a few of my friends doing exactly that. Even ended one of the conversations with “you casual”
This video speaks to me
Aw, dude, I love your comic strips. Nice to see you making animations. I shall sub now.
This is like my favorite MH video of all time, never gets old
Blasphemy!
WolfyMelon hello there
3:28 can we just get a 5 second video of just that audio
"Talks about optimising armor sets"
*Wears full Gold Rathian*
lol Great animation!
This was so good. As someone just getting into Monster Hunter from trying out Dauntless, but having friends who are *extremely* into Monster Hunter, I am seeing the humor on both sides of this. I shared this video with my friends, and they got a kick out of it as well. I've definitely heard the stories about how extensive the stats are, and how necessary they actually end up being.
I'm trying to learn Hunting Horn, and I'm not sure how complex it can actually end up being, but the concept seems daunting. As someone who like bards in all shapes, sizes, and forms though, I had to try it out.
This was pretty good! I been following you on Twitter and know you been struggling with it as your first big project and it came out pretty good for the first full animation. I know you said you were struggling a lot with lip syncing and it could use a BIT more work, but other then that it was good. Also cool to see Yaro in this! But since MHW is my first Monster Hunter game, I won't lie and say that a lot of the jokes in this went a little over my head XD
Old world stuff was pretty interesting, but here's to it dying in world and rise. Cheers, the series is looking bright
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
The voice of the guy in yellow reminds me of the villain in crash of the titans. lol
This just popped into my recommended yesterday, conveniently while I was at a friend’s house that feels the exact same way. Good times, good times
Newbies that only have monster hunter world: Just hit hunter rank 50, man monster hunter generations ultimate will be so easy.
After getting mhgu: WHY DO I KEEP FLEXING AFTER EVERY POTION!!!! WHY DOES A PINK MONKEY FARTING ON ME KEEP ME FROM USING POTIONS!!!!
Congalala is good
*cough* emerald congalala *cough*
Those problems don't sound any different from World. Potions take _forever_ to drink, and getting hit by anything (even merely being afflicted with poison because you didn't see the puddle) interrupts the heal and wastes the potion.
That is true but in world you are free to walk around and possibly avoid an attack, while as in other monster hunter titles you are immobilized and much more open to attack. Also. . . swivel here.
@@Jbirdie03 more open to attack, but significantly less likely to wander into another monster and aggro _that_ or stumble into an environmental hazard. The movement isn't all that fast either, being slower than walking with a HBG drawn, with the speed of the monsters and the size of their hitboxes you might as well be stationary.
I love it due to how accurate it is to how I tried helping my friend (new world hunter) to 4U.
When your stuck at +9...😂😂👌
Thank you for creating the best RetroSpecter profile picture to date!
(P.s., I see what you did there on your name. Personally, I prefer the number 13 as well and I've only recently learned about To Kill A Mockingbird for the first time)
Your bigger project made my small project go go big project
I'll learn about meta sets, but rarely use them since I prefer to look cooler, plus it adds to the challenge when you beat a monster with a non-meta set and rely on your skill
I never used math or statistics even before World. Just don't miss and don't get hit and you're good.
Does that make me a noob or just impatient?
That makes you a normal functioning person
You are the epitome of the difference between lame o WoW players and a monster hunter. Be proud my friend.
This was so good it just put a big dumb smile on my face
I managed to beat G Rank using only full sets.
Does that make me a Casual or a God?
Solo or with others
Eh.... always had some random ass set and beat G rank...
Back in freedom it was some dumb af rathalos kut ku set
in Unite it was a red shogun cenataur/akantor mix
in G4U it was some weird Silversoul and something else mash up. until i got the starknight set (f*cking love it)...
Only in world i actually decided to get some optimizing done. and FUCK RNG DECORATIONS. WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT IT`S A GOOD IDEA.
I did the same in 3u, since like through Tri & 3U I was without internet and a tiny ass T.V. that made the font impossible to read so.. Yeah. Same with not knowing I could charge with a lance.
4U opened my eyes when I had internet to understand things better.
i know a guy named NaN and he finished f1
naked run btw (ds no less)
@@daredae436 Solo
I used Helios X with Brachydios Dual Blades and Grongigas hammer. I always had HG Earplugs, Awaken, Bombardier, and something else.
This is so on point and I love it.
As someone who has only played 4u and world, I am VERY happy with the new skill system. It's just better for the player.
I know there was a masochistic satisfaction in lining up your build just right and unparalleled ecstasy when you get a great charm, but holy shit those systems were a nightmare to understand and deal with.
Noob
Filthy casual
Git gud please
Only casuals and skrubs rely on skills.
I'd love to see a middle ground. World made it so it's WAY too easy to have EVERYTHING, but in Gen/GU/Older games, it feels like a chore to try and create builds, especially for new players.
the ending art made it so fking epic for no reason
Have i mentioned *"CrIt BoOsT"*
My cousin was the guy in Yellow armor and I was the guy in the hunters set but the OLD hunter set. When getting to G rank I just did my thing and still complete things like he did. Just without the number crunchy just making my own build for my own play style. Guard up, guard +2, mega dash juice, and a lance/gunlance.
i dont want to sound elitist but... there is more beauty and depth in the old system than the more friendly new system...
the old system sometimes will not allow you to use anything you want, what force you to make a choice in what you should sacrifice.. it was something like "with this combination i do more damage but if i get hit i probably will die asap... i should let this skill out for a bit extra survival?", or "fck i cannot get this 2 skill together cuz i dont have the correct charm"...
I'd say there's just more depth, there isn't much beauty in "oh boy another charm I don't need, time to grind for 3 more hours...yaaaaaaaaaay." lol I'm allot happier with the new system but I'd prefer if the RNG wasn't so random. I've farmed enough across the series, just give me a goal and let me get to it within 3 hunts at most for once. At this rate I'm just gonna beat a MH game naked again lol
Id rather farm talismans than decorations, if i get a decoration i dont need in world, i cant use it, if i get a slightly worse talisman in GU i can still fit it into a less optimal set
On top of that, nothing compares to the feeling of self-satisfied smugness you get when you figure out the perfect setup for yourself and build it.
who still remembers this vid?