3 cubic foot box for a SINGLE 10 inch sub?
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
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You should have a really low FS with a box that big like 24 hurts or something ridiculous
i was where u are a few years ago, all i can say man is if u like fucking with things endlessly start building high ratio 4th order boxes, small sealed, large ported section. i built one for my home audio setup and it is tuned around 18 hz, i have a single cheap polk audio 10 in it, as someone else said loudspeaker cookbook, and old magazines and interviews from old school spl competitors they used alot of old school tricks to get dbs instead of insane power and extreme subwoofers. i got to say by the way try using mdf on your next box they always seam to be twice as dead compared to birch
If you are going to use plywood, make sure to use high grade glue and better caulking and polyurethane inside the box to fully seal it. I still say use mdf for best results.
Loudspeaker design cookbook. Get you one and read.
Ty
@@danielgresham5082 I second that read the loudspeaker cookbook
Man put two more 10’s on same plan of that box. And enjoy.
@@bugg5011 was thinking that as soon as i made it but don't have enough power, or subs lol
I've got a 3.5 cube box built for my element tuned to 34hz 6" aero port. 4 8's, it gets down. Also, you mentioned mid bass.... I'm using the stock 6.5" sub for mid bass. Get a dsp, change your life.
@meekenzzii- To limit X Max from low freq., just turn up your subsonic filter, on your amplifier, if it has 1? Its usually between (10Hz to 50Hz) on most amps. Just turn up the subsonic filters freq. Limiter, on that super low freq. Song you played, until your woofer stops making weird noises. Also there is something most people call it impedance rise. Its really just how a speakers impedance changes per freq., it plays. Like you are wired to 1 ohm, @ rest=not while music is playing. But as the woofer is playing, its normal to have 2x to 6x the wired to impedance= much less power than you think is really going to your speakers. Your 1 ohm woofer is prob. seeing a 2 ohm to 6 ohm load while playing= 2 ohm, to 6 ohm power from your amp. So yes this 3 cu. Ft. Sealed box is way too big for that 1-10", but its perfect for 3-10" sealed. I would just make 3-10" holes up top, (block off the current hole, as having the woofers on the same baffle is better), then flip the box backwards with the 3-10" sealed facing the way you have now. They should perform how you like, much better then now.
Port it to 30hz. Cubes. That will be epic.
with 3 cubes you could probably aero port it near the mid 20's.
Already knew you were going to bottom out those subs when you said 3 cuft. I've ran those subs before and they are just not very good subs. Most 10s sealed want around .5 cuft sealed when you go larger the bottom end range does extend but cone control gets worse the bigger the box. Need a high XMAX low FS sub made for sealed boxes.
With that box you have now you can still use it. Get a better 12 inch sub and use it as a 4th order. Sealed side would be around 1.2 cuft and ported 1.8 for most subs. Would be a flatter response. If you want a box that is boomy on the low end go with a 10 that's designed for really low bass like a sundown X. It likes .4 cuft on sealed side and 2.4 on ported side. That will give ya around a 6:1 ratio. It will be really loud in your ported frequency range. Won't be a flat response at all. If you want flat go with a bigger sub or fiddle with a 6th order. But that sub is a limitation. Ive had several of em.
Hahaha! Shout out to the Element! I built my box into the wheel well.
My buddy gave me a set of these exact same speakers the 10 inch kicker Comp CVR and they had spider sag so bad that you couldn't even play them they just flopped back and forth
I've got it at one ohm, there's no way anything else would sound good. Actually 2 ohms or more sound better. Ported enclosure act exactly like a sealed box above tuning unless you have to small of a port. Then it acts like a leaky sealed box.
@@SG-Cichlids by sounding good i meant spl wise, running two ohms i would only get maybe 200w max, next box i do ill try running it at 2 ohms, i didnt know that about ported boxes. i have a ported box as well might make a video on it, but im just not a fan of its delay. i know a proper box wouldnt have that problem but im still a noob.
kicker's specs are very weird. other manufacturers dont say 200watt rms x2, they simply would say 400 watt rms lol. always use all 4 terminals on a dual coil...
3k views I 11 days. That's impressive.
Yes RobotUnderground. I view his channel as well.
I just listened to your entire video.
Not bad.
I did cringe when you stated you wanted SQ. And didn't care if it was flat, as long as it sounds good!"....then you proceed to CRANK UP the volume to SPL levels.
Then you did mention more subs. That's the ticket! If you want SQ "get more drivers"!
So many people who are learning want 1 sub to do it all. That's why I initially cringed.
Focus on this sort of video making. 3k views is impressive!
This phone sucks!!!!! I can't edit my typos!!!
@@frankmaggio4328 im pretty surprised myself for how low quality and uninformed the video really is, most of what i do is on a very tight budget, maybe ill do a video of a 12 and two tens because thats all i got and shove it in this box!
Keep the content coming bro 🤙
Keep going bro :)
Its cause the box is too big no back pressure you could fit three tens or two twelves in a box that big or make it a bandpass box cause it will give you the most output for the power your running also run thick speaker wire cause thats a long run for a sub wired to one ohm
I have always wanted to do that. Specially with the Dayto Audio 10 inch woofer they have it says 4 cubic feet max.
You need to read on infinite baffle. It's usually 2x VAS...
I had an alpine type r 15 in a 3.5ft² in the back of an element and it slammed. That stupid wire mesh on the overhead box got annoying.
The bigger your sealed box the lower the fs of the sub will be and the lower the sub will be able to play again the bigger the sealed box
you are absolutely wrong sealed boxes are best for subwoofers for control and the thang you failed to realize is a larger box means less power handling and same thing with a ported box also cool video and all but if you have no clear idea what your talking about then dont mention it because thats not how that works a sealed box is best for a sub woofer thats designed to use that style of box but your box is far two large for any 10 out there hell that would be a prefect box for 12 s ported sooo ps i build boxs my self and i have reconned and rebuilt subs my selfs hell im in the process of building a custom 18 form a hcca motor so i mean you'll learn but its gonna take you a while
@@fxgamer-11yt check out my other video 👍 i admit i was wrong, video is just for fun i have a lot of learning/reading to do
@@mekenziiiiiii your good and if you need a box design let me know i can trough one together for you no charge because i like to help small channels out
@fxgamer-11yt 3 cubic feet isn't necessarily to big for any 10 out there. Depends on the ts parameters of the sub. My current 12 recommended net volume for a ported box is 3 cubic feet for one sub. The box I built for the sub is over three feet and has significantly more port area than the kicker recommended port area. It does a 146db on music. Doesn't unload with doors closed,doors open, hatch open, at full power, ect. Remember the manufacturers recommendations are exactly that. A recommendation. They know it's a safe place for people that don't know what they're doing that will perform well. My brothers single 18 box designed specifically for the sub and vehicle by the sub manufacturer is over 8 cubic feet net.
@@SG-Cichlids yes it is ts specs dont mean much in box size if theres no back pressure it will change as the box get smaller or larger and there's a point where a box get two large for a woofer to produce positive pressure hence why i siad no 10 will take a 3cbft box not even high power high excursion woofer will trust me i have an 10 inch hcca and its suggested box size is 3 cbft sealed or ported and trust me that is false the woofer legit dont need that big of a box i have my 10 in a 1.45 cbft box after displacement and can tell you anything bigger isnt worth it because the coil legit smack the back plate at 1500 watts rms and my sub is ratted at 2k in 1.45 cbft ime feeding it off a audio pipe apcl3k and it fine no 10 takes 3 cbft maybe 2 if your lucky now i have a 12 that can play fine in a 3 cbft box its a bcd4 12 it wants 3 cbft and plays fine lack luster on the higher 40 notes and up but no i disagree i have yet to have a sub of that size need 3cbft and not have issues
@@SG-Cichlids also i build subs and amps and have a the equipment to test where talking 1000s of dollars of equipment to test for ts specs and before you say Dayton has a a tool its ass i started with one there not that accurate there get you in the ball park but there not 100% there closer to like 85%
Hey bro, great video. I did the same thing that you did but I didn't have the app I just had the numbers from my subwoofer CT sounds strato 10 D2 I made my own box with a 4-in port 17 1/2 Inside the Box .. L26/W12 1/2/H13 my first box am I subwoofer is pounding
I wouldn't say sealed is harder on sub,if it was in correct volume,around 1cf,it would have better control and power handling,but u give up efficiency and low end extension.sealed these days are only used in tight spaces,I still prefer the overall sound of sealed,just takes more power and more subs,mo $$$$😂😂😂
by the time you pay the extra cost of a port box you could put that toward more power
Use subsonic
Best way I got a 12 in 4
What's the specs on the largest SPL box for that single sub?.. I did the SPL box to a kicker solo x10 and it was 6 cubic feet....😊
@@realciscomontano5191 i believe 1.75 cuf ported, might be my next box build stat tuned👍
@@realciscomontano5191 was that the old solo x or the new? The recommended ported enclosure volume for the new solox for a 12 is 3 cubic feet.
What was that second song called ?
deep by summer walker
Do people understand what the WORD CUBED MEANS .... 3 cubic feet is 3x3x3....not 3x1x1....
@@carlnakiacunningham73 multiply length, width, and height to calculate cubic feet. 3x1x1 is 3. the box is 3 cubic feet
Ummmm…. Anyone want to tell that dude that a 3x3x3 box is actually 27 cubes??? Stay in school kids.
quit using plywood for sub boxes. MDF not particle board. Plywood is porous and flexes too much.
I agree but this sub isn't gonna produce that much pressure to worry about that, I had half inch plywood for 2 500rms 10s and it was fine, I'm doing 3/4 mdf for my next build 😉
My buddy gave me a set of these exact same speakers the 10 inch kicker Comp CVR and they had spider sag so bad that you couldn't even play them they just flopped back and forth