Bersigar | Pagani Design PD 1639 | Best value Rolex Submariner Hulk Homage?

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  • Опубликовано: 19 мар 2020
  • Here is the review of the Pagani Design | Bersigar Submariner PD1639, one of the most popular Ali Express watches and for good reason: Sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel insert, Seiko NH35 that's keeping amazing accuracy, and all for as low as 60-80€ (depending on the current sale).
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  • @DrunkenKnight71
    @DrunkenKnight71 4 года назад +3

    Thanks for the review, I have subbed! My PD Hulk arrived yesterday and I'm really enjoying it. AliExpress was having a sale recently and I picked it up for £59, bargain!

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад +2

      Thanks for the Sub 👍😁. I am glad you are enjoying yours! It is a bargain indeed. Hope the accuracy is good too

  • @seranadesongs
    @seranadesongs 4 года назад +6

    I purchased the "Hulk" myself, just waiting for it to arrive anyday. I wish they would've kept the Pagani Design name instead of these weird names they come up with. At least with the Pagani name it gave it bit more of a credible sounding name. I paid $59, $66 USD with tax on sale for mine. Thanks for the good video.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад

      Hello Serenadesongs. So did your watch arrive? What do you think about it?

  • @seranadesongs
    @seranadesongs 4 года назад +8

    Update: My Hulk watch just came in from aliexpress, the watch still has Pagani Design on the watch, and the box.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад +1

      Great for you! I wish mine was a Pagani design as well.
      You got it for a bargain!
      Thanks for your support!

  • @slyfondle1885
    @slyfondle1885 4 года назад +1

    The bezel insert is only held on with double-sided tape, so it can easily be removed and realigned. Mine virtually fell off by itself.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад +1

      Thank you for the information, I don't know if I must be happy or sad...
      Anyway, got a Bersigar Daytona skeleton coming later this week, don't hesitate to subscribe to see the unboxing!

  • @timford3599
    @timford3599 4 года назад +3

    Nice, complete review. I agree w/you regarding the Pagani Design vs. Bersigar name variation. All things remaining the same I'd rather go w/ PD. For the money I could forgive the bezel sloppiness and the crown could be smoothed out w/a little silicone grease from what I've been told. I've been looking for a good Hulk Homage and this could be the one! Keep up the good work and Stay Safe. PS. Note my subscription and Like vote, thank you.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад +1

      Thank you very much for your comment and for the Sub 👍😁.
      The Pagani is great, but if you can stretch the budget I'd go for the San Martin for under 200 USD. I just reviewed it last week.
      Thanks again, all the best!

    • @timford3599
      @timford3599 4 года назад +1

      @@Horologique Thank You for that info, cheers.

  • @muckshifter
    @muckshifter 4 года назад +4

    Mine is due this Monday. (30th March) It'll fit my 8.5" wrist well. 😁
    (by the way, those gloves will not protect you from any Virus)

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад +2

      Wonderful! I hope you enjoy it very much. Let me know your first impressions when you receive it!

  • @NisokiesNafokies
    @NisokiesNafokies 4 года назад +3

    Good review

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад +2

      Thank you so much! Don't hesitate to subscribe to keep them coming 😊👍

  • @Pmz604
    @Pmz604 3 года назад +2

    Nice..so who ever previously got the PD green hulk model..ypur watches just went up in value..lol

  • @nineaqua
    @nineaqua 4 года назад +8

    I think if you order from amazon it is called Bersigar. However if you order from Aliexpress it is still called pagani design. Correct me if I’m wrong.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад

      Mmm possibly. However if you look on the website they say "Pagani design is now Bersigar". Kind of confusing... 🤔

    • @seranadesongs
      @seranadesongs 4 года назад +1

      I went to aliexpress and typed in Bersiger watch and the name doesn't appear on any of the products posted. But they still have Pagani Design official store listed as their name on the website. I guess I'll find out once my hulk watch shows up?

    • @coyhutt8022
      @coyhutt8022 4 года назад +1

      Well it will no doubt take some time to move all the old stock. I kind of like the new name.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад

      @@seranadesongs yes please let us know, I'm kind of confused, as on Amazon they specify that their new name is Bersigar...

  • @powerplay4real174
    @powerplay4real174 3 года назад +1

    I got a Pagani Design 3 days ago it is a good looking watch but it didn't come with a screw driver and I stripped two links for some strange reason ,it appeared to have a green substance on the non threaded end of the screw and if its a Loc Tite substance and I have found out sooner I would have let it set in some hot water so the screws would not have had that problem ,plus I did see the need for them to use a substance like that. Although I have that problem its a Fabulous Green Watch Dial.
    Peace Pal & it came from Amazon .com

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  3 года назад +1

      Thank you for your feedback, I'm glad that you are overall happy with it. I myself haven't had that green substance on any of my Paganis, at least not that I have noticed... When did you get the watch? Maybe it's something they are doing of late?

    • @powerplay4real174
      @powerplay4real174 3 года назад

      @@Horologique I received it about 4 days now and I tried sizing my self , and stripped two screw heads , the next time I'll let the metal band set in some hat water. But the Green Sum Burst dial is very nice and the time has been stop on so far. NH35 is very reliable from what I understand
      I have a short video uploading of the screws side by side.

  • @jimboethefirst7418
    @jimboethefirst7418 3 года назад +3

    Good watch with NH35A all day.

  • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
    @HonestWatchReviewsHWR 4 года назад +2

    When did they change their name??

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад +4

      After the feedback I've gotten here, but it still needs to be verified, when you buy through Amazon it's called Bersigar, when you buy from Ali express it's called Pagani Design.
      Which makes matters more confusing is that on Amazon ads for the watches they specify: Pagani design is now Bersigar

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR 4 года назад +1

      @@Horologique That is very confusing.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад +1

      It is indeed

  • @goodlifebdg
    @goodlifebdg 4 года назад +2

    Reading the comments, i almost want someone to do vid comparison between pagani design & bersigar 😬😅

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад +1

      I totally agree, that would be a great video. But I received another proof that they are the same company: I received my latest Bersigar, a Daytona, and it has the Bersigar logo on the dial and the Pagani design text on the bracelet... I'll review it soon, don't hesitate to subscribe to see 👍

    • @goodlifebdg
      @goodlifebdg 4 года назад +2

      Horologique subbed

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад +1

      Many thanks!

  • @sobeit712
    @sobeit712 4 года назад +3

    Bersigar is a trade mark registered filed back in 2018 by Pajiani Watch industry. Does Pajiani have any connection with Pagani design? I can't find any source confirm either way, but interestingly enough, Pajiani is the Mandarin equivalent of Pagani in Cantonese. Being a Chinese myself and having dealt with the unique way Chinese manufacturing groups deal with trade mark and marketing, I can tell you with comfort that one must abandon the Western notion of brand names and trade marks, because any finishing product is being produced by multiple different smaller manufacturers, for something even as small as a watch. The bezel is made by one shop, the dial is made by another, case again by different shop, bracelet, hands, crown ... It may shock you that even the final product can be assembled by different shops and come out look exactly the same because the each part is made as per spec. Think of it this way, buying Pagani design submariner hulk homage is like ordering Kungpao Chicken. Different restaurants make them, sold by different store fronts, but they all look the same (minor differences aside), because when the order is placed, it is made per spec (in this case, the spec is one order of Pagani design submariner hulk homage coming up...) Bersigar has a small presence at Aliexpress, selling all kinds of watches of different brand names. It is not a brand by itself. The logo can be OEM by the same shop that makes the dial. You can custom order logos or have a sterile dial. My conclusion, it's a Pagani design variant with custom logo that says Bersigar. Same watch.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад +1

      Thank you for that information. Indeed in the West we don't know how these companies operate. What I know, at least what is specified in the box, is that under the same company you have at least Bersigar, Pagani Design, Benyar. Pagani design and Bersigar watches are exactly the same, Benyar is their lower with Chinese movements and more basic materials

    • @timford3599
      @timford3599 4 года назад

      @@Horologique That's good to know!

  • @karlos543
    @karlos543 4 года назад +1

    So do we think it's not as well built as Pagani design was be rebadging?

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад +1

      It's as well built as a Pagani Design because it's the same watch from the same company.
      I've gotten comments here that made me understand that when you buy from Ali express it's branded Pagani Design, and when you buy from amazon it's branded Bersigar. Really confusing...

    • @karlos543
      @karlos543 4 года назад +2

      @@Horologique Thanks for the information. Because you took the time to reply I'm subscribing.
      Keep safe.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад +1

      @@karlos543 thank you so much for your support! I always take time to reply to all sensible comments 😊

  • @meylove9694
    @meylove9694 2 года назад +1

    Good for the price

  • @Sebastian-lj5rr
    @Sebastian-lj5rr 4 года назад +5

    Seiko quality hahahaha I have Seiko watches 500$ or more .. I don't see any big difference in quality, what's more Seiko won't give you Sapphire glass, ceramic bazel and bracelets are failure. I have this watch for four months now , I took it off only a few times and I have a collection of watches about 20 pieces .... Steinhart, Seiko, Casio and other microbrands ... none was so comfortable to wear .... well maybe G shock ... I I still stare at my wrist and wonder how they do it for so little, it is not a perfect watch has its minuses and underdeveloped elements but for this price it is unbeatable.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад +3

      Thank you for you comment and glad that you are enjoying your watch! It's very indeed, especially for the money, we agree on that. I've had many Seikos over the years and I agree that they have major quality issues, but in the overall feeling, case finishing, history, originality of the models, they cannot be faulted. Although I'm quiet mad at them for moving upmarket without providing better quality 😡

  • @msh4598
    @msh4598 3 года назад +1

    I have one really very good

  • @oomsueb3918
    @oomsueb3918 4 года назад +2

    That's fine for the price..

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад +1

      Yes it is! You have to know what you are getting and the numerous quality defaults, etc, but as you say for the price it's perfectly acceptable

  • @ivarskailand1745
    @ivarskailand1745 4 года назад +2

    Woaah they changed name :0

  • @soggz4246
    @soggz4246 3 года назад +1

    Mine came today! It’s still a Pagani on the face.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  3 года назад

      It is if you buy it from Ali Express. If you buy it form Amazon in Europe its Bersigar

    • @soggz4246
      @soggz4246 3 года назад +1

      @@Horologique Mine just came from China via eBay.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  3 года назад +1

      Yes, if it came from China then it's a Pagani Design 😁

    • @soggz4246
      @soggz4246 3 года назад

      @@Horologique As they get less common,do you think the price for Pagani,will increase?

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  3 года назад +1

      @@soggz4246 some new models are starting to be over the 100 euro mark, maybe that's where they are headed, but that would be a mistake if you ask me

  • @Mister_Phafanapolis
    @Mister_Phafanapolis 4 года назад +1

    When did this name change happen? Might be a legal issue with the Pagani super car company.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад +2

      After doing this video I had many comments saying that when you buy from China (Aliexpress) it's still called Pagani Design, but when you buy from Amazon it's called Bersigar. Awfully confusing as, if you go to Amazon website it shows the screenshot that I show at the beginning: "Pagani design is now Bersigar". Go figure...

    • @Mister_Phafanapolis
      @Mister_Phafanapolis 4 года назад +2

      @@Horologique huh, that IS weird

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад +1

      Yes, I'll clarify on my next Pagani design review coming soon. Don't forget to subscribe, thank you 😁👍

  • @InGratitudeIam
    @InGratitudeIam 3 года назад +1

    San Martin, a little more money but so much more worth it.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  3 года назад

      The San Martin is twice as expensive, but I totally agree that it's totally worth it, here's my review: ruclips.net/video/Yv9aFBI25mk/видео.html

  • @educationalknowledge1749
    @educationalknowledge1749 2 года назад

    Price??

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  2 года назад

      For the latest price check the link in the description

  • @trooper427ss
    @trooper427ss 4 года назад +2

    Get a piece of tape and take the blue sticker off the 👑 easy trick.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад +1

      I eventually did take it off but the tape thing is good advice for the other 3 that are on the way 😁

  • @watchalot919
    @watchalot919 3 года назад +2

    They are also using the name Pagrne. I think Bersiger looks nicer that Pagani Design. If it's 43mm, it's not much of a homage to a Subby. As usual, their bezel action is terrible.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  3 года назад

      I agree the bezel action is terrible...

  • @VanTheCarMan
    @VanTheCarMan 4 года назад +3

    Great vid my guy! I just posted a review of the Pagani design as well! Check it out!

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад +1

      I checked great video! I just subbed to your channel 👍

  • @manolotusca5280
    @manolotusca5280 3 года назад +1

    The only green I like is my money.

  • @fredoakes7441
    @fredoakes7441 2 года назад

    Use a piece of duct tape to get the blue tape off of the crown

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  2 года назад

      I will next time, thank you for the advice 👍

  • @sarragount5141
    @sarragount5141 3 года назад

    👍👍👍🍀🙏🍀🙏🍀🇫🇷gf

  • @NathanChisholm041
    @NathanChisholm041 3 года назад +2

    Wrong! The name is for the European market the name still stays as Pargani for the rest off the world!

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  3 года назад +1

      Totally, you are right, I corrected myself in following videos 👍

    • @NathanChisholm041
      @NathanChisholm041 3 года назад +1

      @@Horologique No problems mate!

  • @barangbaru8411
    @barangbaru8411 4 года назад +1

    i think bersigar is not pagani design,

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад

      It is the same company, look at the card I show at the beginning of the video

    • @barangbaru8411
      @barangbaru8411 4 года назад

      but in aliexpress you can find bersigar and pagani designs, the crystal specifications that I found are also different, pagani designs use sapphire while bersigar use hardlex for submariner models

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 года назад +1

      It's not Bersigar, it's Benyar. It's the same company as well, I know it's a bit confusing, but on the card that comes with the watch it specifies that Bersigar, PD, Benyar and Naviforce are from the same company

    • @seranadesongs
      @seranadesongs 4 года назад +1

      @@Horologique ok, that makes more sense. They're basically all the same company. Don't know why they make it so confusing with all the different names being the same company???

    • @coyhutt8022
      @coyhutt8022 4 года назад +1

      Horologique I suspect there’s one monster factory in China where all watches are made and they just stick different labels on!