It’s nuts I appreciate these videos but the fanboy is crazy other than that button the difference is not worth spending money to have the same thing. 15 pro max is just fine
@@thraxberserker9960 I got my 15 pro max on preorder, I think October 6th last year so almost a sold year of using it and just yesterday, it dropped to 99% and I have 234 cycles. I’d say it’s doing pretty well.
I have the 15 Pro Max and I usually upgrade every year or every 2 years at least. This year I feel like my phone is perfectly fine and I have no need to upgrade. I had the same feeling when I had the 13 pro max vs the 14 pro max, I waited for the 15 and it was a bigger update.. it seems that every 2 years there are bigger improvements. Which lines up perfectly with carriers 24 month payment plans.
Got my 16pm couple days ago and upgraded from 15pm. I think it was worth the upgrade. I’m into photography and the button on the side really helps that along with all the upgrades to camera systems. Also, I spend most of my free time on the phone so All the little upgrades to most are actually significant to me. The sound quality is noticeably better and the bigger screen along with bigger battery means more screen time to do all the things I do. Work and play. Plus, it noticeably recharges faster so it saves on time and convenient. I’m frugal in other areas of my life but when it comes to iPhones, I jump every upgrade because I have the means and also realized time is precious so I want to enjoy the best possible experience I can get from these little devices that I spend a lot of my time on. Little luxury like these is what makes the quality of my life better. So the point is, if One can afford it than Y not.
I have a new 16 Pro Max and discovered something I haven’t heard talked about much. I use dictation quite a bit and the new phone is far, far superior in its accuracy. I remember hearing something about a microphone upgrade even additional microphones in preparation for AI. I was wondering if during your teardown, you guys saw any of those microphones. Maybe you’d like to test the microphone acuity basically give Siri a hearing test. I’ve never seen anybody do that. I’d love to see you guys give it a whirl.
lol just trade your old device it should’ve already been paid off by now and then you get the new one free because the one from a year ago is still worth 1500$
Moral of the story it does not matter how amazing the computer chip is if it has overheating issues on the things you want to do with it , what’s the point?
I think at minimum if people really want to upgrade coz they can, every 2 years should show some significant improvement. Upgrading every year just seems insignificant because tech has come a long way. But i came from iPhone 11 to 15 pro max and that was a massive upgrade for me personally. Next iPhone I will buy will probably be an iPhone 18 or 19. Sticking to a 3-4 year upgrade cycle, but that’s just me. Nothing wrong with upgrading every year especially if you can sell the previous model year iPhone and get cash towards the latest model.
For the first time ever, I'm not rolling over to the newer iPhone model. I'm sticking with my 15 Pro Max. I only do social media and a wee bit of productivity stuff.
Something that nobody talks about are the flashlights! Especially compared to the regular models. Would be interested in seeing this from you guys in the future.
the reason you see fingerprints less is because you wore out the oleophobic coating on the 15 pro max. That's also why the 16 Pro Max is more shiny and reflective
@@redeem5858 It's also why I use screen protectors. After 1-2 years, switch it out and it's back to zero fingerprints! Changing the screen protector, even when it's not broken, is usually a cheap investment for a big benefit.
Pro commercial Photographer here. The camera improvement just looks like a minor software tweak. I’m looking for a reason to upgrade from my iPhone 14 but I’m having a hard time finding one.. I don’t care about benchmarks. The camera interface is a gimmick. Most people won’t use it.. Chopping a 12 megapixel Photo into 48MP doesn’t bring any more clarity to speak of. There is no artificial intelligence in this phone.
Im a photographer too and its not minor. The software change is major. Its almost like they are letting you edit the jpeg processing phase. The photo styles are non destructive so thats a huge difference. I wish i could have that level of control of the jpeg processing on my a74 like you get on fujifilm.
For one, chopping a 48mp into 12? Starting with the 15 Pro they offered a 24mp mode and it 100% makes a difference for the pixel peepers. The ultra wide has been upgraded on the 16 Pros. Otherwise, it probably is neural engine improvements and a commonly seen difference between 15 Pro and 16 Pro is less shutter lag so there’s that. My 13 Pro photos in good daylight look indistinguishable from the newest top tier phones don’t expect to see many changes there beyond the 24mp mode helping preserve detail when zooming or cropping. It’s moderate and low light where the 14 Pro and higher pulls away from my phone. Gone are the days of massive changed every year. Gone are the days of upgrading every year unless you absolutely need to. Most run these phones for 2-5 years easy and for good reason. I should throw in here that my wife’s iPhone SE 2020 (iPhone 11 internals using iPhone 8 battery and camera lens) takes daylight photos that rival my 13 Pro. Another example of why we shouldn’t expect huge gains, small sensors will always have their limits.
@@Weather_Nerd Having upgraded from an iPhone 8 to an iPhone 13 Pro, and now a 15 Pro, I can say the camera between the 8 and 13 Pro is not even close to being the same. The camera improvements each year are absolutely noticeable, especially side by side, and over 2 or more years it is a night and day difference. The question is literally, "are the upgrades worth my hard earned cash?" No need to gaslight yourself about an older phone being as good as a new one, instead, tell yourself that having slightly better detail in the shadows or the sign at the edge of your photo appearing sharper isn't worth a week's wages 🤣
@@sammyjammy6647 iOS 17 has been in active public development for over a year now. iOS 18 has been in active public development for 3 months. 17.7 is a heavily optimized OS. 18.0 is just getting started. It’s a natural and logical assumption that by 18.7 the bugs will be worked out and the system will be more heavily optimized. If we can get the A18 Pro Bench on 17.7 it will show the year over year gains in the chip.
@@sammyjammy6647 That’s because you’re still on ios 17 once you update to ios 18 your Geekbench scores will decrease, my single core decreased by 200 points and multi core decreased by 500 points.
I am going from iphone 11 witha broken screen, charging port , display to a 16 pro max. Took me 4 years to save slowly for a new phone. I get it in 2 days really excited
I didn’t hear any difference. Moreover 14 pm has better speaker than 15 pm I think. Should have compared 16 pm against 14 pm. I have 11 and I am considering buying the 14 pm.
My boy you realize all these reviews are subjective right ?listening to enough of them you will find the truth in the middle.just enjoy the content and form your own opinion instead of listening and being influenced by somebody else
3:40 your iphone 15 pro max no longer has oleophobic coating and that’s the reason why fingerprints are more visible. Screen protector not only protects the display from scratches but it also protects stock oleophobic coating
Currently have the 14PM 1TB, already have the 16PM 1TB in transit. Two reasons why I’m upgrading: 1) ditching the lightening cable to the universal USB-C and 2) AT&T offered to pay off my device and give me an additional $500 trade credit. Plus they have the new AT&T program instead of paying 50% off the device you pay 33% to trade in early for an extra $4 vs the $6 I was paying. It’s truly sad Apple flopped this year with this phone. They need to do better. Bring back the fingerprint scan! Make a bigger iPad to compete with the ultra tab from Samsung. Adding an “extra” button is not innovative. Cumbersome now if anything with accidental triggers. And this “Apple intelligence”? Absolutely no reason to rebrand Siri. Clearly Apple forgot they were one of the first to bring such to the masses even since the iPhone 4s 10 years ago. Siri walked so Alexa, google, Mercedes, etc could run. Why not re-emphasize on that instead of “Apple intelligence”?
Awesome job, it's great to see such a detailed video with actual testing (not just superficially covering the marketing details like some other channels).
As a 14Pro user i enjoy 16Pro upgrade.. they should swap the camera control button location with action button so that it’s more natural to reach & perform scrolling action in portrait mode.. works well in landscape too
I upgraded from a 14PM to a 16PM 2 days ago. I had no complaints with the 14PM I just switched because of an offer that was given to me and my fiance at a carrier and we went for it. She jumped from the 12PM and I know she will definitely feel the difference between her old phone and her new phone. In my case I really don’t feel any change except for battery. My 14PM had 87% max capacity after 1.5 years and didn’t last as long as one would think but it really was a good phone overall. Over delivered on every task I asked it to do. If you think you are losing a lot of features by saving money on the 14PM instead of just going straight for the 16PM you really aren’t. Just letting you all know.
My iPhone 15 Pro Max got a stability percentage of 76.5% and the best loop score was 1202 and the lowest loop score was 919. I don’t always trust benchmark comparisons. The iPhone 15 Pro Max is still a fantastic performing phone. Also, my iPhone 15 Pro Max is recovering from being hot after less than a minute of doing heavy stress tests. The iPhone Pro Max literally does not have heating problems like it used to. Normally, the phone runs cool. When I place it in front of a fan, the phone stays cool even if I upload multiple 4GB videos on Instagram. The iPhone 16 Pro Max is marginally better in terms of gaming percentage. I’d rather game on a decent gaming PC over any mobile device, period. Also, I rather have the iPhone 15 Pro Max over the Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra.
MISTAKE FOR VIEWERS: the charging cable is not longer, it's just less curled around. The included cable in the box of the iphone 16s are still 1 meter long in length, it just looks different when packaged this way.
Suggestion: Since most people don’t upgrade year over year. When showing various scores for benchmarks why not have the onscreen graphics display older phones scores as well. That way people who have an iPhone 13 or 14 who are actually considering upgrading would be able to see the improvements.
There is actually a way to dim any iphone to lower nits in the accessibility settings. Also get a black and white screen. Sadly this is not even that new of a feature
@@akshayaddy it works! Go in the settings and search reduce white points. Select it and pick 90%. Then look up accessibility shortcuts and select reduce white points. Then click the power button three times and voila let me know if you’re successful
Love seeing the upgrades Apple don’t talk about. Shame, they don’t talk about the speaker enhancements or WiFi cellular connectivity or thermal improvements but get why they don’t… Luckily we have you to talk about it Max 😂
the only thing i like, is the fast 45w charging , else its pointless to upgrade . so i will skip this year's upgrade, and stick to my 15pro max for now..
Yeah one of the features I‘m most happy about upgrading from a 13pm. Glad to see it’s even better once again. Was always jealous hearing my dads 14p and that wasn’t even a max.
Oh wow I didn’t finish the video before I made the first comment. I just noticed he said the lowest score on the 16 promax during the nomad light test was more than the highest score for the 15 promax during that test. See this is the stuff people don’t talk about or don’t know about. 16 pro max is not a minor upgrade. I guess it really all depends what you do with your phone. I use it as my main media hub for gaming video all that stuff it’s a big upgrade to me.
People complaining about tech companies continuing to innovate and improve is hilarious. Even if it’s small changes, they add up after 5 years.. I can trade in my 15 pro max for $800 credit. I only spent $1100 on it, essentially I got to use a brand new iPhone for a year for $300… if you can’t afford $300 a year you have bigger problems than cellphones.
Will you do a test when moving between WiFi and cell? I believe you did last year comparing 14pro max and 15 pro max. The 14pro max moved so slow between the 2 signals and your test proved it with the 15pro max last year. I almost upgraded because of it.
Hey guys, don't usually comment on your videos, but thought I would add my thoughts. Typically I'm not a heavy user. I typically upgrade my phone maybe every 3 to 4 years depending on if the new one has a feature I need, or want improvements too, or if my battery is having issues. For example my current 15 Pro Max was my upgrade from a 12 Pro Max, and the 12 Pro max was my upgrade from a 7 plus. Typically the iPhone is a tool and communications device for me first and camera and portable media player second. I typically buy the pro Max as the larger screen is good for me having low vision, and I'd rather pay for features I may not use, and not need them over needing them and not having them.
basically, if you don't write the model under the photos, it's difficult to understand if it's 15 or 16! except in slow motion which is used once every 300 videos!
I think my favorite test was the steel nomad light and thermals. It’s not an exact replica to a high intensity game at length, because this test pushes it much further than any game. But it’s a great representation of the 16 promax ability to sustain performance much better. I’ve noticed it on my phone when playing lengthy amounts of death stranding. It’s noiiiice
I'm using 15promax while my workmate uses 14promax, we put the SAME SETTINGS on both phone for videos and guess what, 14pmx is literally better than 15pmx! I kinda regret getting the 15
I’m actually a bit more impressed with the larger screen and the smaller bezel than I thought I would be. I also think that the camera speed is better. I thought it was really laggy on the 15 PM.
I’m definitely holding on to 15 pro max cause I just got it at December last year 2023. It’s still a fantastic iPhone after I trade my XS Max to the next.
lol i didnt even care to wait for the 16 i got the 15 30 days before 16 dropped, and im happy, literally the same phone as the 16 but one has a button you wont ever use, just one less button i dont have to worry about hitting to me
Please update description. Thanks. "We JUST got Apple's new iPhone 15 => 16 Pro Max, so let's compare literally EVERYTHING to the previous iPhone 14 => 15 Pro Max in this full comparison video.. including the new cameras!"
If no play game too much, not important to upgrade. Or you have a problem with Parkison, should upgrade to 16 pro. But 15 pro already have good anti-shaking camera
The biggest thing I’m noticing on here is the people that have 15 or 14 keep downing the 16 😂😂😂. I mean that’s totally natural but I promise if you had the 16 you wouldn’t be saying what you’re saying, you low-key kind of want it. Who wouldn’t want the best??? I was jealous of people with awesome phones for five years because I stuck with the 11 Pro but I finally got to upgrade. Just don’t down talk the phone …next year Some of you will have the 17 and you’ll talk trash about the 16 and the people who still have the 16 will say the 17 just a 16s 😂😂. Ok I’m rambling I use my 16 Pro Max for gaming. It’s an awesome platform for gaming and it’s a world of difference from the 15 pro max as far as stuttering and throttling.
I am also thinking about changing my phone I have an iPhone 11 for about 6 years and I think I should change it to a better model and I have just made a decision I am waiting for the iPhone 21 🤣
The solution for the iPhone 15 Pro series overheating issue involved throttling the A17 Pro chips through the software update we had couple weeks after launch. I’ve been noticing constant slowdowns on my 15 Pro Max since then. Essentially, the current performance of the A18Pro is what should have been the baseline of the A17 Pro. It’s a thermal fix after all with some comestic design improvements of the chip.
The update fixed a looping problem. Those phones were overheating when people weren’t even doing anything on them. What Max is talking about is heat from heavy stress load. Not some looping software bug. Get your facts straight
I compared my Desert Ti 16PM to my Gold 14 PM and it is noticeably pinker. It very much looks more rose gold in certain lighting conditions. I actually love the color in person and it looks way better than photos would suggest.
Where do you guys see all that pink? There's zero pink in it. The bezels are sort of copper-coloured, the back is off-white with a slight tint of yellowish-orange (hence the "Desert" Titanium).
I’m a photographer and use my phone to connect to my canon all the time to view photos and even edit for social media post or to send them to family and friends on the go so I was really hoping the screen,camera as well to be a night and day difference and upgrade from the 15 pro max not happening… i haven’t had my phone overheat ones yet… maybe from getting a later model 15 pro max not sure
People talking about not changing their 15pm to 16pm and what comes down to is that you don’t make enough money to do that, so skip the video (that you should’ve never watched to start with) and keep saving money to next year you can upgrade 🙂
Even though I’m on the Apple upgrade program, these yearly minimal changes have me thinking about getting out. My son has my old 13PM which was I got in the upgrade program for the 15 PM and my wife has her 14PM and all 3 run like champs.
Subscribers to this channel are more likely to be "power users" or pro users. I'm a sophisticated user but I don't push the processor in my 15PM enough to have overheating issues. The camera upgrades seemed pretty great on paper, but after watching this, the glare reduction is the only thing that really stands out to me, and I don't take a lot of pictures where glare is an issue. I will definitely tune it to your blind camera comparison video next week, but so far my plan is to stick with my 15PM for another year. I'm definitely open to changing my mind, but right now, the cost of annual upgrade compared to every other year upgrade seems greater than the benefits of upgrading from 15pm to 16pm. Thanks for the videos, whichever decision each of us make, it is a much better informed decision thanks to this channel.
I think it’s weird when people see a device that just came out and complain that it’s not that much better than the previous year or speak in a negative light about why they’re not interested in upgrading to the latest model while they still have the previous year. New phones aren’t meant to be upgraded yearly, but for those who feel like it’s worth the jump.
So true but next year they be buying 17 and he happy. I’ll be skipping 17 cause I’m on odd years. I get the refined phone. Most people upgrade every 2+ years not yearly. Mean hey if I was rich I’d upgrade yearly cause I’m into tech but not cause there’s massive leaps. It just really sucks cause every time it’s my upgrade year it’s people moaning about how it’s stupid and Apple should just move to 2 year cycle, they’d be angry however if Apple did that starting now and skipped next year.
I have a friend who had the lovely blue titanium 15 pro last year who is buying a 16 pro this year. He is going to get £510 back for a trade in. I almost wanted to say: “So you are paying £580 for an extra button? Got it….”
You nailed it! I have the 15p max and looked at the trade in value towards the 16pm and said so what am I actually paying the difference for? The new photo button? No thanks I am good.
Marked battery life improvements (hours more), less lens flare and other camera, mics, and thermal improvements, did you actually bother watching the video?? some of it is incremental but it's definitely not just a button. I have a friend like you who would try to suck out the fun just to justify why they aren't taking an upgrade.
@@chrisanderson9981 it’s just a button for me. I’m not here to speak to rationalize for your friend or to “suck out fun”! You want it go get it! My battery life in mine is great, I never noticed the lens flare as an issue, the mics were never an issue and I game on my pc, AVP, series X or ps5 so thermals don’t even impact me. So for ME it’s a button. If for you, you want to get it go for it. I rather wait for the M4s MacBooks
@@chrisanderson9981 for my use case it’s just a button. My battery life is still great, the lens flare is something I didn’t have a problem with, the mic hasn’t been an issue since I use external mics and thermals don’t matter to me because for gaming I use my PC, AVP, series X and ps5. I purchase for my own use case, not others. So if my opinion or your friend’s use case “sucks out fun” then maybe you should purchase based on your own requirements and not others.
@@chrisanderson9981 I am not stopping anyone having the upgrade. I would understand if it was a jump from the 12 or 13 to the 16 BUT to lose about half the value you paid for something to get an upgrade is a kicker. I have used the 15 pro and it’s a great phone. I guess my philosophy is that you don’t upgrade a product based on how good the new one is. You should base it on how bad the product you currently have is.
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Can't wait for camera comparison between regular iPhone 16 and Pro models
Calling the 15pm “old” after 1 year is crazy 😂
It’s nuts I appreciate these videos but the fanboy is crazy other than that button the difference is not worth spending money to have the same thing. 15 pro max is just fine
It’s old
All these big RUclipsrs that can't even test things like speakers... Tells you something.
Appreciate you guys' commitment to testing everything.
15 Pro Max is still my best daily driver for another several years and I'm happy with it.
Is there a big difference between the 15 Pro Max and the 15 Pro? Or is it mainly size?
@@dannymcqueen display size, 5x camera and battery
Same here.
My only concern is the battery health, I kind of feel like it was artificially reduced to get people to buy the 16
@@thraxberserker9960 I got my 15 pro max on preorder, I think October 6th last year so almost a sold year of using it and just yesterday, it dropped to 99% and I have 234 cycles. I’d say it’s doing pretty well.
I have the 15 Pro Max and I usually upgrade every year or every 2 years at least. This year I feel like my phone is perfectly fine and I have no need to upgrade. I had the same feeling when I had the 13 pro max vs the 14 pro max, I waited for the 15 and it was a bigger update.. it seems that every 2 years there are bigger improvements. Which lines up perfectly with carriers 24 month payment plans.
I have 15PM, think I’ll wait for 17PM
Me toooo I have the 15 pro max so Im going to wait for the 17 pro max
Wait for 18PM
NO wait for 19PM
No wait for 20 PM
No wait for 29 pro max
Upgraded from iPhone 11PM to 16PM, I absolutely love this phone
omg i thought i was the only one i’m thinking about financing this and the ultra 2 but i’m sure the 11pm vs 16pm is a big difference in technology
Got my 16pm couple days ago and upgraded from 15pm. I think it was worth the upgrade. I’m into photography and the button on the side really helps that along with all the upgrades to camera systems. Also, I spend most of my free time on the phone so All the little upgrades to most are actually significant to me. The sound quality is noticeably better and the bigger screen along with bigger battery means more screen time to do all the things I do. Work and play. Plus, it noticeably recharges faster so it saves on time and convenient. I’m frugal in other areas of my life but when it comes to iPhones, I jump every upgrade because I have the means and also realized time is precious so I want to enjoy the best possible experience I can get from these little devices that I spend a lot of my time on. Little luxury like these is what makes the quality of my life better. So the point is, if One can afford it than Y not.
I have a new 16 Pro Max and discovered something I haven’t heard talked about much. I use dictation quite a bit and the new phone is far, far superior in its accuracy. I remember hearing something about a microphone upgrade even additional microphones in preparation for AI. I was wondering if during your teardown, you guys saw any of those microphones.
Maybe you’d like to test the microphone acuity basically give Siri a hearing test. I’ve never seen anybody do that. I’d love to see you guys give it a whirl.
I heard they went from three microphones to four “studio quality” microphones.
I noticed that too
I have the 13PM i think I’ll wait till 23PM 😂
I have it as well and the battery on it is god tier
next year will be our year to really upgrade :D
Hii
I’m still on a 12 pro max 😂😂😂 but upgrading to a 16
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man I appreciate videos like these where most RUclipsrs don't get into. thank you
Even though he confuses the two phones on more than one occasion. I guess you're just not that interested in the details
There could be 1000 reasons to update from a 15 pro Max to a 16 pro Max - but none of theme is worth spending 1500 € again after just 1 year.
Where are you buying this that you are paying full price? $400 max.
@@fiftyfivefoxeshe said euros so more
lol just trade your old device it should’ve already been paid off by now and then you get the new one free because the one from a year ago is still worth 1500$
I’m just spending $550 to upgrade… 🤷♂️
@@fiftyfivefoxes uhh the apple store??
So the 15 Pro Max when touted for AAA gaming wasn’t meant for AAA gaming at all.
They slowed it down because of the overheating issues. The A18 pro is just a fix of the A17 pro.
Moral of the story it does not matter how amazing the computer chip is if it has overheating issues on the things you want to do with it , what’s the point?
@@deon.zoldyck20% is a large increment for a yearly release btw
@@deon.zoldyckThermals is actually 30% better. And that's a huge increase.
Use an ipad
The sound is the biggest surprise… the mics and speakers are crazy
what about itv
This is one of the smallest upgrades to the Pro series ever. The 16 and 16 Plus are the real MVP this year. I am happy with my 15 Pro Max.
The 15 Pro Series looks like it was a great buy.
16 Pro is not better
@@thewishmasturOf course it’s better. Every new iPhone is a little bit better than the previous one. Did you even watch the video?
Bro needs a validation that his 15pro is better so he doesn’t have to change it (or can’t)
@@thewishmastur If you saw the comparisons, you wouldn't say that. The thermals, and battery life alone are big reasons.
15 Pro was the worst iPhone model. So bad and so many levels.
I think at minimum if people really want to upgrade coz they can, every 2 years should show some significant improvement. Upgrading every year just seems insignificant because tech has come a long way.
But i came from iPhone 11 to 15 pro max and that was a massive upgrade for me personally. Next iPhone I will buy will probably be an iPhone 18 or 19. Sticking to a 3-4 year upgrade cycle, but that’s just me.
Nothing wrong with upgrading every year especially if you can sell the previous model year iPhone and get cash towards the latest model.
For the first time ever, I'm not rolling over to the newer iPhone model. I'm sticking with my 15 Pro Max. I only do social media and a wee bit of productivity stuff.
Something that nobody talks about are the flashlights! Especially compared to the regular models. Would be interested in seeing this from you guys in the future.
the reason you see fingerprints less is because you wore out the oleophobic coating on the 15 pro max. That's also why the 16 Pro Max is more shiny and reflective
That’s a thing? No wonder I could never get my phone screens back to the original look
@@redeem5858 It's also why I use screen protectors. After 1-2 years, switch it out and it's back to zero fingerprints! Changing the screen protector, even when it's not broken, is usually a cheap investment for a big benefit.
Pro commercial Photographer here. The camera improvement just looks like a minor software tweak. I’m looking for a reason to upgrade from my iPhone 14 but I’m having a hard time finding one.. I don’t care about benchmarks. The camera interface is a gimmick. Most people won’t use it.. Chopping a 12 megapixel Photo into 48MP doesn’t bring any more clarity to speak of. There is no artificial intelligence in this phone.
Im a photographer too and its not minor. The software change is major. Its almost like they are letting you edit the jpeg processing phase. The photo styles are non destructive so thats a huge difference. I wish i could have that level of control of the jpeg processing on my a74 like you get on fujifilm.
Also your get the preview and can make the style the default but can edit it after the fact as if it were a raw photo
For one, chopping a 48mp into 12? Starting with the 15 Pro they offered a 24mp mode and it 100% makes a difference for the pixel peepers.
The ultra wide has been upgraded on the 16 Pros. Otherwise, it probably is neural engine improvements and a commonly seen difference between 15 Pro and 16 Pro is less shutter lag so there’s that. My 13 Pro photos in good daylight look indistinguishable from the newest top tier phones don’t expect to see many changes there beyond the 24mp mode helping preserve detail when zooming or cropping. It’s moderate and low light where the 14 Pro and higher pulls away from my phone.
Gone are the days of massive changed every year. Gone are the days of upgrading every year unless you absolutely need to. Most run these phones for 2-5 years easy and for good reason. I should throw in here that my wife’s iPhone SE 2020 (iPhone 11 internals using iPhone 8 battery and camera lens) takes daylight photos that rival my 13 Pro. Another example of why we shouldn’t expect huge gains, small sensors will always have their limits.
@@Weather_Nerd Having upgraded from an iPhone 8 to an iPhone 13 Pro, and now a 15 Pro, I can say the camera between the 8 and 13 Pro is not even close to being the same. The camera improvements each year are absolutely noticeable, especially side by side, and over 2 or more years it is a night and day difference. The question is literally, "are the upgrades worth my hard earned cash?" No need to gaslight yourself about an older phone being as good as a new one, instead, tell yourself that having slightly better detail in the shadows or the sign at the edge of your photo appearing sharper isn't worth a week's wages 🤣
16 pro max coming in on Monday. Coming from an 11 pro max, it’s a significant upgrade either way. If I had the 15, I would not upgrade
Do you regret the 16 pro max (vs the 15 pro max) for the price difference? I have currently the 11pro max and hesitate between these two
@@shannytremblay9030did 15 pro get discount? Not near me it’s selling for same price as 16 pro
@@shannytremblay9030 I have the 11 and I want to upgrade to the 15PM or the 16PM also but I’m not sure which one to lean more towards :)
@@shannytremblay9030might as well get the latest model
Lil bro is speed testing iPhone 16 with iOS 18 and iPhone 15 with iOS 18.1(beta)😂😂. Lame.. (Saw this details in the geekbench description)
15 pro Max performs better in 18.1 btw
My iPhone 15 pro max might be an exceptional performer. On geekbench 6 my single core is 2972 and my multi-core is 7458. I’m on iOS 17.7
@@sammyjammy6647 iOS 17 has been in active public development for over a year now. iOS 18 has been in active public development for 3 months. 17.7 is a heavily optimized OS. 18.0 is just getting started. It’s a natural and logical assumption that by 18.7 the bugs will be worked out and the system will be more heavily optimized. If we can get the A18 Pro Bench on 17.7 it will show the year over year gains in the chip.
@@sammyjammy6647 That’s because you’re still on ios 17 once you update to ios 18 your Geekbench scores will decrease, my single core decreased by 200 points and multi core decreased by 500 points.
I doubt that count as him thinking we’re dumb…
Saw the Desert titanium in person yesterday, it’s interestingly different than it looks on camera. Quite rose gold under certain lighting
Yeah seen it on the train as well and definitely looks a little better in person than on camera.
The videos online really don’t capture what it really looks like. It certainly is just rose gold.
@@shadowkilla245 For me it's the opposite, it looked better in the keynote
@@AzVfL really I like it in person it looks like a rose gold
I am going from iphone 11 witha broken screen, charging port , display to a 16 pro max. Took me 4 years to save slowly for a new phone. I get it in 2 days really excited
The speaker upgrade was WILD, holy!
Are you being sarcastic?
@@latinochico The speakers are actually crazy in person.
@@Antimonious agreed, upgraded from 15 pro max its a massive upgrade
I didn’t hear any difference. Moreover 14 pm has better speaker than 15 pm I think. Should have compared 16 pm against 14 pm. I have 11 and I am considering buying the 14 pm.
@@MrGobo Yikes. 14pm is outdated tech. Lightning port is dead
The quality of your content is very good. Great vid
Greets from Israel
It seemed more like a 16 PM promotion rather than honest comparison.
Slightly better cellular 😂 2 times
My boy you realize all these reviews are subjective right ?listening to enough of them you will find the truth in the middle.just enjoy the content and form your own opinion instead of listening and being influenced by somebody else
Huh? The phone is just better lol
3:40 your iphone 15 pro max no longer has oleophobic coating and that’s the reason why fingerprints are more visible. Screen protector not only protects the display from scratches but it also protects stock oleophobic coating
@@StudyWithNika he was talking about on the rails not on the screen and he said the fingerprints are more visible on the 16
I wonder if it’s possible to add your own oleophobic coating?
Currently have the 14PM 1TB, already have the 16PM 1TB in transit. Two reasons why I’m upgrading: 1) ditching the lightening cable to the universal USB-C and 2) AT&T offered to pay off my device and give me an additional $500 trade credit. Plus they have the new AT&T program instead of paying 50% off the device you pay 33% to trade in early for an extra $4 vs the $6 I was paying. It’s truly sad Apple flopped this year with this phone. They need to do better. Bring back the fingerprint scan! Make a bigger iPad to compete with the ultra tab from Samsung. Adding an “extra” button is not innovative. Cumbersome now if anything with accidental triggers. And this “Apple intelligence”? Absolutely no reason to rebrand Siri. Clearly Apple forgot they were one of the first to bring such to the masses even since the iPhone 4s 10 years ago. Siri walked so Alexa, google, Mercedes, etc could run. Why not re-emphasize on that instead of “Apple intelligence”?
Awesome job, it's great to see such a detailed video with actual testing (not just superficially covering the marketing details like some other channels).
Can we just admit the 16 is simply the 15s?
Literallyyyyy
Apple addressed thermal management in a big way for the first time EVER this year. They aren’t the same phones. A line has been drawn.
This is typically the model to get. They’re doing a redesign next year, the last of the previous design always has the most refinement.
@@TheTrafficBossI agree
Agreed.
As a 14Pro user i enjoy 16Pro upgrade.. they should swap the camera control button location with action button so that it’s more natural to reach & perform scrolling action in portrait mode.. works well in landscape too
But then action button would be I. Horrible place
Action button is just pressing in so not difficult compared to scrolling motion of the camera control
I upgraded from a 14PM to a 16PM 2 days ago. I had no complaints with the 14PM I just switched because of an offer that was given to me and my fiance at a carrier and we went for it. She jumped from the 12PM and I know she will definitely feel the difference between her old phone and her new phone. In my case I really don’t feel any change except for battery. My 14PM had 87% max capacity after 1.5 years and didn’t last as long as one would think but it really was a good phone overall. Over delivered on every task I asked it to do. If you think you are losing a lot of features by saving money on the 14PM instead of just going straight for the 16PM you really aren’t. Just letting you all know.
My iPhone 15 Pro Max got a stability percentage of 76.5% and the best loop score was 1202 and the lowest loop score was 919. I don’t always trust benchmark comparisons. The iPhone 15 Pro Max is still a fantastic performing phone. Also, my iPhone 15 Pro Max is recovering from being hot after less than a minute of doing heavy stress tests. The iPhone Pro Max literally does not have heating problems like it used to. Normally, the phone runs cool. When I place it in front of a fan, the phone stays cool even if I upload multiple 4GB videos on Instagram. The iPhone 16 Pro Max is marginally better in terms of gaming percentage. I’d rather game on a decent gaming PC over any mobile device, period. Also, I rather have the iPhone 15 Pro Max over the Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra.
Yeah but he did it after geekbench test. That's why. 16 Pro Max's thermals are really superior
MISTAKE FOR VIEWERS: the charging cable is not longer, it's just less curled around. The included cable in the box of the iphone 16s are still 1 meter long in length, it just looks different when packaged this way.
15 promax perfectly good phone ill wait for 18
Suggestion: Since most people don’t upgrade year over year. When showing various scores for benchmarks why not have the onscreen graphics display older phones scores as well. That way people who have an iPhone 13 or 14 who are actually considering upgrading would be able to see the improvements.
I’m only getting the 16 because my 15 has heating issues outside of gaming. Hopefully the 16PM addresses this
It’s still going to be hot 🥵
I can confirm that minimal brightness, that is one nits made a huge difference in night.
There is actually a way to dim any iphone to lower nits in the accessibility settings. Also get a black and white screen.
Sadly this is not even that new of a feature
@@36mcast Other than disabling auto brightness and lowering it down, how can I dim it more on my 11 pro max?
@@akshayaddy it works! Go in the settings and search reduce white points. Select it and pick 90%. Then look up accessibility shortcuts and select reduce white points. Then click the power button three times and voila let me know if you’re successful
@@akshayaddyreduce white point on the settings (on ios 18 i even have it on my quck settings/pull down tab )
Bro I feel that, just upgraded from 15 Pro Max to 16 Pro Max, the thermals are much improved. I had to use a MagSafe cooler with my 15 Pro Max.
Love seeing the upgrades Apple don’t talk about. Shame, they don’t talk about the speaker enhancements or WiFi cellular connectivity or thermal improvements but get why they don’t… Luckily we have you to talk about it Max 😂
I wish you would compare their heat dissipation and how fast the 16 pro recover to normal temperature with the new thermal system
Iphone cable isn't actually longer than the old cable.
I was wondering this. I was almost regretting buying new long cables but now I’m not. Thanks for this comment!
the only thing i like, is the fast 45w charging , else its pointless to upgrade . so i will skip this year's upgrade, and stick to my 15pro max for now..
It’s crazy how excited I am about the speaker tests
Yeah one of the features I‘m most happy about upgrading from a 13pm. Glad to see it’s even better once again.
Was always jealous hearing my dads 14p and that wasn’t even a max.
Geekbench Multicore 6912 to 8133 is not 28% faster, don't know where you got that percentage from 😀 It's more like 17,5% faster.
Very nice thermal management review
Great content as always! Excited to see the comparison of the iPhone 16 Pro Max vs the Pixel 9 Pro XL
15pm doing good for me so far. If that Utramarine color came in the 16pm probably would’ve considered
I‘ll be so jealous looking at people with a ultramarine 16 while myself having a 16pm lol
@@daniel_960_ I mean that color way is just gorgeous
Yasssss! Such better colors on regular iPhones vs the pro models :(
@@cherryswirlchale9511 period none of them colors are appealing to me. That’s why I got the black 15 the black almost looks the same on all models
I'm probably going to get the iPhone 15 pro max. But damn, performance wise, yall making me want the 16 PM
This is the best channel for celular technologies for sure 💯! Thanks!
Nice to see Valuetainment show up in your feed
Oh wow I didn’t finish the video before I made the first comment. I just noticed he said the lowest score on the 16 promax during the nomad light test was more than the highest score for the 15 promax during that test.
See this is the stuff people don’t talk about or don’t know about. 16 pro max is not a minor upgrade. I guess it really all depends what you do with your phone. I use it as my main media hub for gaming video all that stuff it’s a big upgrade to me.
People complaining about tech companies continuing to innovate and improve is hilarious. Even if it’s small changes, they add up after 5 years..
I can trade in my 15 pro max for $800 credit. I only spent $1100 on it, essentially I got to use a brand new iPhone for a year for $300… if you can’t afford $300 a year you have bigger problems than cellphones.
Will you do a test when moving between WiFi and cell? I believe you did last year comparing 14pro max and 15 pro max. The 14pro max moved so slow between the 2 signals and your test proved it with the 15pro max last year. I almost upgraded because of it.
Hey guys, don't usually comment on your videos, but thought I would add my thoughts. Typically I'm not a heavy user. I typically upgrade my phone maybe every 3 to 4 years depending on if the new one has a feature I need, or want improvements too, or if my battery is having issues. For example my current 15 Pro Max was my upgrade from a 12 Pro Max, and the 12 Pro max was my upgrade from a 7 plus. Typically the iPhone is a tool and communications device for me first and camera and portable media player second. I typically buy the pro Max as the larger screen is good for me having low vision, and I'd rather pay for features I may not use, and not need them over needing them and not having them.
Why the fuck would you get the 16PM when the 15PM is already an amazing phone? I'm not changing it for at least a few years.
Because heat issues are horrible and battery sucks on the 15 pro
Please do a thorough review of the Pro as well, thermal, speaker differences between the Pro and Pro Max
That's why last year I've skipped iPhone 15 pro max and got my 16 pro max 😊
basically, if you don't write the model under the photos, it's difficult to understand if it's 15 or 16! except in slow motion which is used once every 300 videos!
see y'all on that iPhone 17 PM ... not upgrading this year
I think my favorite test was the steel nomad light and thermals. It’s not an exact replica to a high intensity game at length, because this test pushes it much further than any game. But it’s a great representation of the 16 promax ability to sustain performance much better. I’ve noticed it on my phone when playing lengthy amounts of death stranding. It’s noiiiice
I'm using 15promax while my workmate uses 14promax, we put the SAME SETTINGS on both phone for videos and guess what, 14pmx is literally better than 15pmx! I kinda regret getting the 15
I upgraded from a 14 Pro Max. to the 16 Pro Max awaiting delivery hope the difference is bigger than the 15-16 up grade
Upgrading from 13 PM i love the 16 PM so far
Played both speakers 15 Pro Max and 16 Pro Max. 16 sounds a little cleaner and the 15 seemed louder. They are both on 18 IOS.
I’m actually a bit more impressed with the larger screen and the smaller bezel than I thought I would be. I also think that the camera speed is better. I thought it was really laggy on the 15 PM.
Camera is laggy? WTF dude😂😂😂😂🤡🤡
I’m definitely holding on to 15 pro max cause I just got it at December last year 2023. It’s still a fantastic iPhone after I trade my XS Max to the next.
Great and honest review.
16 pro max is the best iPhone ever and couldn't be happier upgrading from the 15 pro max. The camera button is a game-changer for me.
lol i didnt even care to wait for the 16 i got the 15 30 days before 16 dropped, and im happy, literally the same phone as the 16 but one has a button you wont ever use, just one less button i dont have to worry about hitting to me
Thank you for a very professional and informative comparison.
Please update description. Thanks.
"We JUST got Apple's new iPhone 15 => 16 Pro Max, so let's compare literally EVERYTHING to the previous iPhone 14 => 15 Pro Max in this full comparison video.. including the new cameras!"
If no play game too much, not important to upgrade. Or you have a problem with Parkison, should upgrade to 16 pro. But 15 pro already have good anti-shaking camera
Let me help Yall.. if you have a 15 pro Max there’s 0 reason to get the 16
I stiill have an iPhone 8 (daily driver). How many reasons do I have to upgrade to 16 Prox Max? :D
Nice comparison video Bro, Cool 👌.
I got my 15 pro max since launch, I will keep this phone until iphone 20 pro max lol. Calling 15 pro max “old” after a year is crazy hahaha.
U need to buy the 16PM
Thank you for the honest opinion.
my desert titanium 16 promax came this morning I’m so excited to get off of work and test it out 😊
The biggest thing I’m noticing on here is the people that have 15 or 14 keep downing the 16 😂😂😂. I mean that’s totally natural but I promise if you had the 16 you wouldn’t be saying what you’re saying, you low-key kind of want it. Who wouldn’t want the best??? I was jealous of people with awesome phones for five years because I stuck with the 11 Pro but I finally got to upgrade. Just don’t down talk the phone …next year Some of you will have the 17 and you’ll talk trash about the 16 and the people who still have the 16 will say the 17 just a 16s 😂😂. Ok I’m rambling
I use my 16 Pro Max for gaming. It’s an awesome platform for gaming and it’s a world of difference from the 15 pro max as far as stuttering and throttling.
I am also thinking about changing my phone I have an iPhone 11 for about 6 years and I think I should change it to a better model and I have just made a decision I am waiting for the iPhone 21 🤣
The solution for the iPhone 15 Pro series overheating issue involved throttling the A17 Pro chips through the software update we had couple weeks after launch. I’ve been noticing constant slowdowns on my 15 Pro Max since then. Essentially, the current performance of the A18Pro is what should have been the baseline of the A17 Pro. It’s a thermal fix after all with some comestic design improvements of the chip.
The update fixed a looping problem. Those phones were overheating when people weren’t even doing anything on them.
What Max is talking about is heat from heavy stress load. Not some looping software bug. Get your facts straight
@@iamashamanama3712 Correct, they didn't throttle, people just make things up!
Desert looked really pink in person
I have the desert titanium. I don’t see any pink. Must be one of those dress is blue / yellow situations.
I compared my Desert Ti 16PM to my Gold 14 PM and it is noticeably pinker. It very much looks more rose gold in certain lighting conditions. I actually love the color in person and it looks way better than photos would suggest.
Yeah I am returning it for a different colour
I love it. It's super subtle
Where do you guys see all that pink? There's zero pink in it. The bezels are sort of copper-coloured, the back is off-white with a slight tint of yellowish-orange (hence the "Desert" Titanium).
Lord give me the excitement max has for every small upgrade 😁
These RUclipsrs are trying very hard to make 16 better but we know that is nothing different than previous generation.
Wrong
I’m a photographer and use my phone to connect to my canon all the time to view photos and even edit for social media post or to send them to family and friends on the go so I was really hoping the screen,camera as well to be a night and day difference and upgrade from the 15 pro max not happening… i haven’t had my phone overheat ones yet… maybe from getting a later model 15 pro max not sure
Watching on my Black 16 Pro Max
People talking about not changing their 15pm to 16pm and what comes down to is that you don’t make enough money to do that, so skip the video (that you should’ve never watched to start with) and keep saving money to next year you can upgrade 🙂
Of all the Apple fan channels, I think you guys are the most objective. I don't think you always get the credit you deserve.
alternative title "Comparison of IPHONE 15 and 15"
I have iPhone 15 pro Max. Am more than happy with my iPhone!
Even though I’m on the Apple upgrade program, these yearly minimal changes have me thinking about getting out. My son has my old 13PM which was I got in the upgrade program for the 15 PM and my wife has her 14PM and all 3 run like champs.
Subscribers to this channel are more likely to be "power users" or pro users. I'm a sophisticated user but I don't push the processor in my 15PM enough to have overheating issues.
The camera upgrades seemed pretty great on paper, but after watching this, the glare reduction is the only thing that really stands out to me, and I don't take a lot of pictures where glare is an issue.
I will definitely tune it to your blind camera comparison video next week, but so far my plan is to stick with my 15PM for another year. I'm definitely open to changing my mind, but right now, the cost of annual upgrade compared to every other year upgrade seems greater than the benefits of upgrading from 15pm to 16pm.
Thanks for the videos, whichever decision each of us make, it is a much better informed decision thanks to this channel.
Add a magnetic cooler at the back, the stress test is even better than iPhone 16 Pro Max with more than 88% stability. What kinda comparison is this 😂
Throw back iOS 17.6.1 on iPhone 15 pm and repeat the test, the iOS 18 reduced the performance of 15 PM artificially. 🤧
I think it’s weird when people see a device that just came out and complain that it’s not that much better than the previous year or speak in a negative light about why they’re not interested in upgrading to the latest model while they still have the previous year. New phones aren’t meant to be upgraded yearly, but for those who feel like it’s worth the jump.
So true but next year they be buying 17 and he happy. I’ll be skipping 17 cause I’m on odd years. I get the refined phone. Most people upgrade every 2+ years not yearly. Mean hey if I was rich I’d upgrade yearly cause I’m into tech but not cause there’s massive leaps. It just really sucks cause every time it’s my upgrade year it’s people moaning about how it’s stupid and Apple should just move to 2 year cycle, they’d be angry however if Apple did that starting now and skipped next year.
I have a friend who had the lovely blue titanium 15 pro last year who is buying a 16 pro this year. He is going to get £510 back for a trade in. I almost wanted to say:
“So you are paying £580 for an extra button? Got it….”
You nailed it! I have the 15p max and looked at the trade in value towards the 16pm and said so what am I actually paying the difference for? The new photo button? No thanks I am good.
Marked battery life improvements (hours more), less lens flare and other camera, mics, and thermal improvements, did you actually bother watching the video?? some of it is incremental but it's definitely not just a button. I have a friend like you who would try to suck out the fun just to justify why they aren't taking an upgrade.
@@chrisanderson9981 it’s just a button for me. I’m not here to speak to rationalize for your friend or to “suck out fun”! You want it go get it! My battery life in mine is great, I never noticed the lens flare as an issue, the mics were never an issue and I game on my pc, AVP, series X or ps5 so thermals don’t even impact me. So for ME it’s a button. If for you, you want to get it go for it. I rather wait for the M4s MacBooks
@@chrisanderson9981 for my use case it’s just a button. My battery life is still great, the lens flare is something I didn’t have a problem with, the mic hasn’t been an issue since I use external mics and thermals don’t matter to me because for gaming I use my PC, AVP, series X and ps5. I purchase for my own use case, not others. So if my opinion or your friend’s use case “sucks out fun” then maybe you should purchase based on your own requirements and not others.
@@chrisanderson9981 I am not stopping anyone having the upgrade. I would understand if it was a jump from the 12 or 13 to the 16 BUT to lose about half the value you paid for something to get an upgrade is a kicker. I have used the 15 pro and it’s a great phone. I guess my philosophy is that you don’t upgrade a product based on how good the new one is. You should base it on how bad the product you currently have is.
Thank you for the agenda at the beginning of the video.
hello, great picture! thank you for the video. One question...what are those blue vertical blobs on the picture? is it from the sensor?
Amazing reviews, thanks
It's literally a video of 16 pro max advertising. Look how he talks. I will continue my 15pm