Great video, thanks for making the time to create. I’m a Nick’s junkie although Overlander isn’t a model I own. I’m also an exclusively HNW guy and, with both smooth and roughout leathers, to maintain the original color while simultaneously conditioning, I echo the recommendation for Venetian Shoe Cream, but will also add Saphir “Revonteaur” (spelled the second word wrong but check it out).
FYI. Horweens Predator Orange has a very similar tannage to Chromexcel. The Obenaufs LP is probably not the best to use on it for maintaining its color. I use Venetian Shoe Cream on it and it conditions without over darkening the leather. Overall it’s an awesome leather.
Obenhaufs is a conditioner that keeps the leather from wasting away to the elements, its good stuff if your going outdoors and stomping in a few puddles.
A GOOD REVIEW FROM SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY SEEMS TO WEAR THE BOOTS..IVE SEENS SO MANY REVIEWS WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING THERE IS NO BREAKIN DISCOMFORT BUT THEN YOU LOOK AT THE BOOT AND IT LOOKS BRAND NEW..SO OBVIOUISLY THEY ARE NOT PUTTING IN THE HOURS TO EVEN HAVE A BREAK-IN
I have the builder pros, ruffled out lower with smooth uppers. I work for the parks department. The ruff out handles the scratches and rocks much better.
@@traxzenwell I’ve never reduced darkening caused by Obenauf’s on an old pair of boots I have. I never used that stuff on light boots again. Only super dark brown or shoes I don’t care about darkening on (like some boat shoes I wear when I wash my car). I prefer Venetian Shoe Cream and Bick4. I lately also started using Smiths. None darken like Obenauf’s. Some guys have suggested washing a boot with Dawn soap can remove the darkening caused by Obenauf’s. Others suggest using Saddle Soap. I want to try both as an experiment.
I had the same boot that I ordered based on the fitting system from Nicks. Trace your foot, scan that sheet to them, etc. These were my 2nd pair of Nicks and they were a great looking boot, but I didn't find them at all comfortable, even after wearing them 8 hrs/day to work, for approx. 8 months. The boots are well made, and the fit was good, but left little room for thick socks, or an insole. I should have ordered a larger size so that I could use insoles, but I didn't think I would need them. I ended up selling them. Good luck with yours, I'm sure it makes a difference in comfort with the insoles in the summer and heavier socks in the winter. How much larger of a size did you order to make sure you had the room for the insoles?
Definitely loose at the heel (with blistering to prove it!) but ball of foot was not terribly snug. Heel moved into the pocket and became snug after 3 month breakin.
Very cool video, good explanation.. I'm in the process of ordering Black waxed flesh MTOs, but the currency exchange in Canada is killing me.. I'll pay about 400$ more than you!
So far no. As I said, I usually carry 40lbs on my back and I haven't noticed any downsides due to lack of shock absorption. I do use insoles but they have pretty much bottomed out at this point. You do notice the lack of cushion compared to a new pair of Salomons, but the cushion on the Salomons don't last very long.
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Great video, thanks for making the time to create. I’m a Nick’s junkie although Overlander isn’t a model I own. I’m also an exclusively HNW guy and, with both smooth and roughout leathers, to maintain the original color while simultaneously conditioning, I echo the recommendation for Venetian Shoe Cream, but will also add Saphir “Revonteaur” (spelled the second word wrong but check it out).
I would recommend possibly going with Nicks weather shield black leather on your next pair if youre considering using them in wet conditions.
FYI. Horweens Predator Orange has a very similar tannage to Chromexcel. The Obenaufs LP is probably not the best to use on it for maintaining its color. I use Venetian Shoe Cream on it and it conditions without over darkening the leather. Overall it’s an awesome leather.
Obenhaufs is a conditioner that keeps the leather from wasting away to the elements, its good stuff if your going outdoors and stomping in a few puddles.
A GOOD REVIEW FROM SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY SEEMS TO WEAR THE BOOTS..IVE SEENS SO MANY REVIEWS WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING THERE IS NO BREAKIN DISCOMFORT BUT THEN YOU LOOK AT THE BOOT AND IT LOOKS BRAND NEW..SO OBVIOUISLY THEY ARE NOT PUTTING IN THE HOURS TO EVEN HAVE A BREAK-IN
Thinking about getting the overlanders in brown wax flesh, love the style of the boot
Good point... doing a review after 6 months or so.
I have the builder pros, ruffled out lower with smooth uppers. I work for the parks department. The ruff out handles the scratches and rocks much better.
Ya those ruffles are what's up
Crazy how dark Predator Orange can get.
Edit: oh you use Obenauf’s. That’s why.
What product would you suggest that would reduce the darkening?
@@traxzenwell I’ve never reduced darkening caused by Obenauf’s on an old pair of boots I have. I never used that stuff on light boots again. Only super dark brown or shoes I don’t care about darkening on (like some boat shoes I wear when I wash my car). I prefer Venetian Shoe Cream and Bick4. I lately also started using Smiths. None darken like Obenauf’s.
Some guys have suggested washing a boot with Dawn soap can remove the darkening caused by Obenauf’s. Others suggest using Saddle Soap. I want to try both as an experiment.
Bick-4
they look fantastic.
I had the same boot that I ordered based on the fitting system from Nicks. Trace your foot, scan that sheet to them, etc. These were my 2nd pair of Nicks and they were a great looking boot, but I didn't find them at all comfortable, even after wearing them 8 hrs/day to work, for approx. 8 months. The boots are well made, and the fit was good, but left little room for thick socks, or an insole. I should have ordered a larger size so that I could use insoles, but I didn't think I would need them. I ended up selling them. Good luck with yours, I'm sure it makes a difference in comfort with the insoles in the summer and heavier socks in the winter.
How much larger of a size did you order to make sure you had the room for the insoles?
Solid video!
Don’t like the big heel in the 55 last try the Ranieir from Frank’s Boots. It has a wedge sole with the high arch 55 last. It love them.
Where those Salomons 10.5 US?
Got my builder pro back in April 2023.
Were your boots snug at the ball of your foot and a little loose at the heel when new?.
Definitely loose at the heel (with blistering to prove it!) but ball of foot was not terribly snug. Heel moved into the pocket and became snug after 3 month breakin.
@@traxzen thank you for the response.
Very cool video, good explanation.. I'm in the process of ordering Black waxed flesh MTOs, but the currency exchange in Canada is killing me.. I'll pay about 400$ more than you!
Just curious if you have any issue with the lack of shock absorption in this style of boot?
So far no. As I said, I usually carry 40lbs on my back and I haven't noticed any downsides due to lack of shock absorption. I do use insoles but they have pretty much bottomed out at this point. You do notice the lack of cushion compared to a new pair of Salomons, but the cushion on the Salomons don't last very long.
It is a handsome looking boot.
I did not understand the comparison between Salomon and the Overlander….they are totally 2 different style for different needs I guess…😊
Does your wife know you put your boots on the cutting board? lol
Oh yes! She has demoted that cutting board to the garage (after getting a new one)
Predator Orange? lol sure do not look orange after 6 mths. Must be the oil / conditioner you used to make them this dark...