Reacting to Asmongold's React Of My Video (again) | J1mmy Reacts
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
- Original Video by me: • Runescape Doesn't Need...
Act Man’s video on react streamers that align with my feelings on the whole thing: • The Dark Side of React...
Today, we watch Asmongold not understand Old School Runescape for an hour, pointing it out every time. This is a J1mmy react to an Asmongold React, one of the oldest forms of media on the RUclips platform. 365 days a year, people anxiously refresh the J1mbo page in hopes of a new J1mmy reacting to Asmon's React pops up. Every time one of these videos is published, an audience only comparable to the Super Bowl tune in and absorb the layers of original content on display. This... is one of those. 
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money glitch
well said Visa
So when josh is gonna get mixed up In this? I think we need it. 😂
Josh on Gielinor Games when? 😏
I’m fully here for this
Josh! Go ahead. Take a slice 😉
Bro this is unhinged
i cant wait for the react of the react that was a react to a video that was a reponse to a react reacting to a react.
MOAR
MOAAAAAARRRRRR!!
@@jasonh8592 chill jason, there surely will be
Wrong, this is merely the RUclips content meta
The fact that OSRS hit an all time player record during the recent Trailblazer League should just end the argument
It beat that again last week I think, without a league..
a whole hour of jimmy saying "NO ITS NOT!" and I ate it up like mom's spaghetti.
Guy who has only play world of Warcraft: "This is just like world of Warcraft!"
Asmon has literally no idea what he's talking abt.
There's a quote on the Dan Olson video about crypto that I feel applies here. They know a lot about one very complicated system and assume all other systems must be less complicated and easy for them to also understand.
Asmon seems to be misplacing nostalgia, for familiarity. Which are two very different things.
He simply doesn't understand the definition of the word is all. He completely skipped over the sentimental part of the definition. That's a core component of what it means.
This. This.
I was familiar with it, and when Osrs came out, I picked up where I was forcibly left off.
Nostalgia played no part.
bro lives in a bit of an echochamber nowadays, he's content in life and provides good content but he's often wrong when speaking about games. Which is ironic considering how he came up lol
That’s actually a brilliant take
The fact that OSRS is currently multiple years older than RuneScape was when OSRS was created, and is right now pretty much the most successful RuneScape has ever been, disproves the nostalgia argument all by itself.
@@mrbubbles6468 I'm sorry to have to tell you this, but, "Nuh-uh!", isn't an argument.
@@Blackbaldrik lol damn this mr bubbles guy must be getting cooked, this is like the third comment thread I've opened with replies dunking on this man while his original comment is nowhere to be seen loool
@@boss2329 yeah buster must've pussied out
Runescape 3 proves OSRS is better and a success. It has all the new bells and whistles, but its NOT runescape gameplay, more runescape-like. That's why OSRS is successful.
@@Defender2516 Runescape 3 is not popular because it's being loaded to the brim with microtransactions and has an obtusely confusing new player experience, combined with having none of the nostalgia. The gameplay is good and still way more similar to OSRS than any other game you'll find.
The most important part of your video is one of the end quotes.
"What people who dont play runescape dont understand, is that the game fundementally gets so much right that others get wrong"
To a huge portion of the population, an MMO is BY DEFINITION a clone of wow. Because they have been for so long, they cant fathom that a game in the "wow genre" isent a typical game. EVERYTHING runescape does has an interesting flair to it. You learn cool shit all the time, Last night I was going to do some woodcutting, but I got a gargoyle slayer task for the first time. While doing it, I saw the door to head to the roof. Found out the gargoyles drop keys, farmed a key, fought the boss a for a bit a won. That was an afternoon adventure that came out of nowhere after hundreds of hours.
37:19 I’ll say it again, I started playing OSRS on my phone, in my twenties, having never TOUCHED any version of it before that, and I am still playing as a thirty year old, two whole jobs later. Nostalgia has NEVER had ANYTHING to do with my time in this game. It’s just a good game.
Same, I started with no prior experience (except for a few youtube videos) with OSRS until the mobile release. Plus, I believe that I'm quite young compared to the average audience of OSRS, so I don't think nostalgia has a huge factor on what keeps a game ALIVE. It's purely the nature of its game design and fundamental enjoyment factor that keeps players coming back.
Glad you guys are enjoying osrs. I like hearing that new players do join our community and enjoy this great game 😢
@@dhidebody Thanks! Nowadays I'm basically in mid-game hell, grinding out corrupted gauntlet for bowfa or bossing for cash.
I have fond memories of me mining at the east Varrock mine and smelting weapons to selling to the weapons shop. I didn't want to use the GE for whatever reason, but because of that I felt really proud of my first 10k stack (that I actually earned).
I also remember how thankful I felt that someone gave me 50k just for being a new mobile player, f2p worlds were so crazy during those times. I basically have nostalgia for OSRS, rather than RS2, strange how things work out.
Yooo another 30 year old man playing the same game whoop whoop
same here, except i'm 23 and started playing when i was 20. never touched the game once as a kid, i'm not even sure if i knew it existed because i only played nintendo games lol
It's so funny how Asmongold makes all of these statements as if he knows everything about how RuneScape players feel after literally admitting he knows nothing about the history of RuneScape
Interesting you bring this up as if it's an issue. I mean by all means it can be informative. However, this is a basic level of human judgement and understanding.
It's like thinking of grocery stores. You've been to Walmart, you've shopped there. If someone asks about what its like shopping at HEB, Publix, etc, can you give them feedback? While you may not have specific feedback on that store, you can cross reference your experience shopping at other grocery stores. If you've been to 15 grocery stores and they all have generally the same layout, items and such with a few differences, it would be a reasonable assumption that in a topic about grocery stores, you can say a disclaimer saying "I've never been to kroger but ~~~~~~" and insert your experiences from similar grocery stores. In most social circles, that is seen as a perfectly valid method of communication because it states you don't have first hand experience, but are comparing it to other experiences you've had. You may not have biked on trail A, but you can share how fun bike riding was as an experience from Trail B-D. This also opens up the communication to correct any misunderstandings or difference in experience. You may say I wish kroger had fresh nuts, and by gosh turns out they do now! Nice and simple conversation with new information.
With the internet, there is no concept of having an opinion. It's either entirely true or not. You can't have an opinion on a game if you have not played it for 100 hours. You cannot have an opinion on an emotion or concept like nostalgia if it dares contradict what another person feels about it. The conversation piece is lost where you would have a back and forth dialogue, meeting a middle ground and gaining perspective you may not have had. Even reacts like this lack this communication, though it's better than the comment section.
It's totally understandable as well - 1 person making a video cannot reasonably respond to hundreds to tens of thousands of people wanting to have a conversation to meet in the middle so it ultimately turns into "hardheaded streamer ~~~" and people polarize.
It's okay to like someone and not like some of their opinions. Unfortunately we're in a society where people are so polarized by opinions that they cut ties as soon as they realize you agree or disagree with a certain streamer / movement. If I can have a hundred friends, why bother having one who disagrees with what I think?
Anyways, yeah. It's fine to have an opinion after you state your credentials. That preemptively informs the viewer of your credentials and allows them to review your feedback appropriately. I never played FFXIV til a year or two ago but before that, I could reasonably talk about it based on my experience with other MMOs as well as the things I've seen and heard from other FFXIV creators. I would have said some inaccurate things and in a real conversation, would have been corrected and learned - but the majority of information would still have been accurate and more than enough to have a conversation about the topic.
As a side thought - if reading and watching information isn't informative on a subject, why do we form opinions and retain things news and other clickbait headlines tell us and share them like it's gospel? I'm sure the vast majority of people reading this will cite how diet soda causes cancer because the news told them it does but they have never looked into the study, nor the hundreds (S) of studies that do not share the same results. They don't realize that the rats were dosed with up to 4000mg / kg and the HUMAN acceptable daily intake is only 40mg / kg. These people had the audacity to do this to these animals for MONTHS. No one knows about that because they've never looked into it, yet they've taken the word as fact and repeat it as such. The same people get defensive when something they like (such as video games) has someone talk about it inaccurately, sort of like how I'm talking now about this study. Interesting. I'm not quite sure where to go with that other than we should all be better at taking in information. People will always be uninformed and we'd probably be a better society if we handled conversations better instead of assuming the worst intent.
Anyways, this was a crazy long reply. Take care friends, have a good day, stay hydrated and enjoy your favorite games
Asmongold has made a living thinking he knows as much about WoW as any other topic.
Which is obviously not true.
@@Tekshipie and he doesn't even understand wow really just knows the items, the actual game play of it and what the player base wants he is lost says the most out of pocket shit where every other top player raider and pvp or even the mid lvl ones say hes wrong. Asmon just high on his own FARTS and is so out of touch with everything he might actually need to touch grass for a bit
@@Tekshipiehe’s the very embodiment of the dunning-kruger effect and moreover mt stupid
I mean he owns 4 massively successful businesses in different fields. Whether you like him or not, the world hasn't shown him he's incorrect
If nostalgia was important to OSRS, castle wars wouldn't be dead.
this is actually an insanely good argument lol
The fact the graphs so clearly show that nostalgia doesn't work and he just ignores it is insane
Listening to him talk, he doesn't sound like the kinda guy who'd ever let something like new data get in the way of an existing opinion lmao
@@AnOliviaShapedGremlin a common quote from Asmon is "you can't reason someone out of a position they didn't use reason to arrive at in the first place." Ironically, he rarely uses reason when ranting about video games, lol
That graph says a lot of things, and it's naive to think it only says one thing out of context. The context of that graph says a lot more about OSRS than what Jimmy claimed. When OSRS released it had countless issues including DDoS attacks, years of polish and content to catch up to, bare-bones clients, and Jagex having an all-time low in player confidence, among other issues.
@@kennyklaar5935 That doesn't account for a significant portion of the playerbase having never played OSRS in their youth. The nostalgia argument just doesn't work with that factored in, yet you and Asmon seem keen to completely ignore that little detail.
@@c.f.bellairs1055 I respect you taking this respectfully, but yes it is the reason of the majority of the player base, including me. I been talking to thousands of runescape players since OSRS came back on and asked them why do u play OSRS?
Guess the answers i got, nostalgia. Just like a very few of them did not answer nostalgia, but most did. I played since I was 8 years old, 30 now and i came back just for the nostalgia. And so are the most player base too.
41:00 I think I see the problem. He’s treating Nostalgia like it is a genre, not an emotion.
Yeah he thinks people literally play golden eye for more than 30 mins nostalgia lasts
@@mrbubbles6468 No dude, OSRS just proves that gamers want good games. I never played MMOs back then, I was a little baby, I started playing OSRS in 2018 and got hooked on how insanely well designed and addicting and rewarding it is, unlike other games. Nostalgia cannot be a factor if you never played back then. Hypixel Skyblock is a gamemode within a Server within Minecraft, and the style of MMO it is is pretty similar to OSRS, and it gets tens of thousands of players because of it, peaking at over 200k. PEOPLE SIMPLY LIKE GOOD GAMES.
FUCK! You're totally right! I've been trying to place why his argument infuriates me so much, and that's it! You're brilliant.
9rain has the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever by reacting to this.
9rain I know ur here make it happen
@9rain
9who?
Would absolutely love to see 9Rain or Hannanie react to this lol
Pls mr 9rain
Asmon's biggest issue with his perception is that he thinks Nostalgia is equal to or the same as Familiarity/Reputation. Yes, it's the oldschool 'version' or graphics, and Classic is the oldschool 'version' but both got to where they are currently with their reputation- NOT nostalgia.
Runescape got here because it was heralded as exactly the game it is: a good game, with infinite replayability and a plethora of ways to play and new content as well as the old content that's been there since forever.
Classic WoW got to where it is (dead as fuck) because of exactly what it was: Bad, dated and the same as it fucking was in 2006 with NOTHING new added to it whatsoever. The only thing Classic WoW ever got 'added' to it- was Hardcore. That's it. That's the entirety of it.
Nostalgia isn't a factor for either, OSRS just completely buries Classic based on every single measurable metric.
He thinks that because people play classic wow for nostalgia that the same statement transfers to osrs, this is just not true. Classic wow is a carbon copy of the old game and doesn't get new content, it is today what it was in 2004. osrs is NOTHING like 2007 runescape, it's been molded into a new game. Nostalgia doesn't keep players in osrs. Dudes rat brain can't comprehend this.
Just wanna say I 100% agree with you that OSRS's success has nothing to do with nostalgia, and it's kind of insane that that's being refuted so hard. I appreciate you including data that's showing how nostalgia honestly doesn't do much for the longevity of any MMO that's tried to hop on the train.
I had 0 nostalgia for OSRS (didn't play Classic or RS2) and my husband got me to start playing it with him, and I genuinely think it's a fantastic game on its own. It's a refreshing and unique experience, and I agree that the stream of updates (and, imo, the community engagement) help keep me excited for the game.
In fact, I'm currently tremendously enjoying the Origins Server for EQ2, and as someone that has played EQ2 for over 15 years, I am genuinely concerned that EQ2 is relying too much on nostalgia and I'm hoping they take advice from OSRS to prevent the inevitable crash that just about any purely-nostalgia-based hook eventually has. By all accounts I *should* have nostalgia for EQ2, but, like you said, what all of us really want for it is to return to a time when the game was better, and see how it evolves from there.
Anyway, all of that is to say I genuinely think you're in the right, and I honestly wish more devs trying to hop on the classic train could learn from OSRS and *not* hinge 100% on nostalgia.
"all the updates and content added into OSRS are built into the game on the context of what people fondly remember from their childhoods"
That's like saying the newest WoW expansion is built on nostalgia, because people fondly remember playing vanilla WoW. Killing boars is nothing like Dragonriding, and killing cows is nothing like raiding ToA. Absolute 0 IQ take.
exactly what childhood nostalgia is their in tob
ya i physically recoiled at that take lmfao
asmongold usually has 0 IQ takes
I also think it's objectively wrong. The new content isn't made from the perspective of "this needs to be just like 2008 RuneScape" when it's being designed.
@@josiahsmith7458 Exactly.
"People only like OSRS for nostalgia!" He said while killing Lizardmen Shamans on Kourend for a Konar task, using his Leagues 4 ornamented BP with amethyst darts, trying to get a DWH drop, so he could start grinding CoX for a TBow, so he could then grind out Inferno attempts on his Ironman.
Definitely remember the good old times doing that as a kid...
It really shows how true so much of what j1mmy says is when asmond just assumes that new bosses are strictly for veteran players. Like he can't fathom that a boss could ever be early- to mid-game content
The rank 1 inferno , is called librain , hes a relative new player , started 2020 or a bit earlier my bro met him cutting log in f2p and 5 year later the dude has 1000 inferno kill , hes puerto rican , and the perfect exemple of a new player doing shit veteran cant
They even released a boss that's specifically for LOWER level players quite recently, t ohelp them learn bossing and train melee combat more easily.
he can't think outside terms of WoW where new content = making old content irrelevant
I also noticed this. A wow player literally doesn't understand that a new boss isn't endgame lol
The WoW mind can’t fathom mid level content. Scurrius doesn’t exist. Moons of Peril doesn’t exist. Only inferno and Colo.
the "ask WOW players, they're right here" line hit just as hard the second time
Azmon in a nutshell, "I'm right, i'll never admit I'm wrong. But you are right too."
At one point there was 3 jimmys and 2 asmons on the screen if this goes any futher its just gon be a screen filled with jimmy and asmons
This is the content im here for
"It's 40 minutes! It's too long!" says a guy who probably spent 4 hours waiting for a group to raid Black Rock back in the day.
If he watches the hour reaction and reacts but not the 40 mintue wow video 😂
Yeah. My problem with Asmon is that he is so full of contradictions.
"I am the graph guy. I like hard ... facts and numbers."
*Promptly ignores the graphs Jimmy put up*
I watch both of them but Asmon has had some shit takes recently. Like, a lot of shit takes.
One of which is the graphics thing.
No, you doofus, graphics aren't the main reason Baldurs Gate 3 did well... It did well because it was a really well made TTRPG game and people love TTRPG games that are well made.
If graphics were a good reason for anything doing well then why have many modern games with amazing graphics been so fucking shit and lackluster? 5Head.
yeah but he didnt stream it, bit of a difference haha
@@PaladinfffLeeroy those graphics are not relevant, hence why they're ignored. The issue is that both of them are using a different definition of the word nostalgia. You can't agree with someone that is talking a different language.
@@mrbubbles6468 What are you on about?
BG3 was being played because many people have enjoyed/are enjoying DnD and other Tabletop RPGs... Not because of graphics...
I do not think that you realise what nostalgia actually is. Sentiment for the past. OSRS is not the past. I can hardly even be called the same game as it was back then.
The game has doubled their peak concurrent player count from their "golden age" in 2007-2010. HOW could that be sentiment for the past if there are double the number of players? Where are they coming from then?
I do not sell the game to other based on sentiment for the past, I sell the game for being respectful of your time investment, having the best quests of any big MMO, being able to be 2nd screen gameplay or really intense gameplay, and having the highest skill ceiling of any PVP in any MMO.
"No shoes! Feet locked ironman" got me lmao
It's funny how people who have barely or never played Runescape are so sure they understand what the game is and has to offer.
Nostalgia makes you come back but new updates and contents makes you stay in the game. So nostalgia was like 50% of the reason why old school players came back.
that's asmongold in a nutshell, spews an opinion about stuff he knows nothing about
@@richardkim3652 Old school players "coming back" was less than 10k players. People play because it is a good game.
@@mrbubbles6468 so if you go to a restaurant because it was recommended by a friend that means it's based on nostalgia?
The name is OSRS because it's an older version of the game. When OSRS released that version of the game was 6 years old. OSRS is 11 years old now. And even then it only came to be because players wanted to de-update the then-current game, not because of nostalgia but because IT WAS A BETTER GAME. Nostalgia lasts like 1 hour max. Grab your favorite ps2 or ps1 games and you will probably drop them in that time, because that's nostalgia.
this
literally this
i never played the game growing up and i feel like i missed out on peak
i love osrs though been playing since 2020/2021
He won't acknowledge your charts but he made a hypothetical chart. Get absolutely owned J1mmy.
Wait J1mmy got owned?
@@brendondowdy5651 You didn't see the part at 41:50 where Asmon mimes a chart and shows you how big the slice is? Typical ~nostalgia~ lover wearing their ~nostalgia~ goggles refusing to see TRUE and REAL data.
Cope for assmon goldilocks more
Bruh Jimmy's way funnier than asmon and not as much of a neckbeard
The level of social ineptitude in this comment chain is astounding. I get that sarcasm doesn't always translate well in text but, come on, guys... At least try...
"I don't like arguing about theoreticals" says the man who half of his argument is theoretical.
"Games driven by nostalgia start huge then immediately die, also osrs is only as popular as it is 10+ years later because of nostalgia" I can't fucking stand this man
>comes up with serveral hypothetical arguements
"i dont really like arguing with people with like theoricals"
his brain is basically turned off when he is streaming
its funny how asmon cant fathom the fact that "bad graphic game, but the game is good" so he tries to link it to nostalgia
Fr he thinks graphic equal gameplay, and he's coming from WoW 😂
That's why he thinks CoX isn't anything different from Kalphite Queen.
@@Salsmachev tbf the game is incomprehensible unless youve played for a decent amount if time. I still remember my 1st impression of osrs in 2020, i did not understand a thing.
@@shame1290 I'm pretty sure that if thousands of ten year olds managed to figure the game out almost twenty years ago, it can't possibly be that incomprehensible. Especially since there's so much help these days from the wiki and video guides.
I think what you're getting at, though, is that if Asmon hasn't played much OSRS, then he won't understand why CoX is so different from what came before. I agree, and that's exactly the problem with him. He is, essentially, being arrogant. J1mmy, an undeniable expert on OSRS, says that "This gameplay isn't nostalgic". Asmon doesn't have enough game knowledge to understand why that's true. But instead of asking "How is this different? Why is an experienced player saying it's different?" he simply says "Oh it looks the same so the expert must be wrong".
@@mrbubbles6468That's... Not what that means. You don't even know what nostalgia means and you're here trying to prop up Asmon. A game can be better in an earlier time without it being purely for nostalgia. Y'know... Like OSRS. He even discusses it in the video. Nostalgia does not keep tens of thousands of people playing for over a decade.
I like nostalgia is like the match when starting a campfire.
It was necessary for the start of the game, but if all you have is the match, you’re going to freeze
True and real
Key piece to that: It "WAS" necessary. It's not necessary anymore. It might help get some people to look at the game, but there are people who want to play because they've seen Swampletics, or Gielinor Games, or they have friends who talk about what the game actually plays like. OSRS is a pretty unique game in comparison to other games today. It doesn't appeal as much to younger generations because many games today that younger generations play are about quicker action, getting stuck in fast for a high-intensity experience with things like battle royales, or big scaling single sessions like a game of League. RuneScape is a slower burn game with slow progress, and that just doesn't mesh with the current younger generations. Not to say that younger people wouldn't ever play OSRS, but it's just not as attractive due to the style of play.
@@mrbubbles6468I am begging you to stop desperately trying to pretend AssMan is right about something, this is getting sad
This is incredibly accurate.
@@andrethyst905 what an excellent way to put that
We need to go deeper
Asmongold gives me flat earther vibes when people try to communicate with him
Nostalgia is what kept me playing RS3 for 10 years longer than I should have. Being a good game is why I play OSRS.
Nostalgia is why I play OSRS. Most people play OSRS for nostalgia.
How can you get Nostalgia for RS3 that came out 2013 and not for the OSRS that came out 2001? Did you play RS3 first before you tried OSRS?
I am 30 years old and played OSRS when I was only 8 years old, so for me it's nostalgia for OSRS and not RS3, and it's same for the majority of the players.
@@kennyklaar5935first of all, Classic was 2001, the closest thing to OSRS pre-2007 would have been around 2004 when RS2 came out, and even then 2004Scape is a lot different than 2007Scape. OSRS is 2007 RuneScape, nearly 2008 given it was an August backup. By the time EoC came around it was only 5ish years, but for most of that time the major things that changed was graphics and new quests, Minigames, and two skills (summoning and Dungeoneering), otherwise the game was the same exact game it always was. As Jimmy said in the video, it's not that people specifically wanted 2007, it's that it was coincidentally the backup available. People were fine just reverting the game back pre-EoC, so basically the 2010-2012 RSHD era. The whole point of the video is the game wasn't made because of nostalgia, it was made to correct the wrong of EoC at the time.
Second of all, 2013 was ELEVEN YEARS AGO! A whole decade and change easily allows for nostalgia. For me, being 27, that was between my sophomore and junior year of high school, we've (at least Americans) had 3 different administrations! Heck, dude, with the pandemic there can be an argument for a faster developed nostalgia for a time pre-COVID. The important factor of nostalgia is the key memories and vibes of the time you're nostalgic for. I have nostalgia for EoC beta, I have nostalgia for playing RuneScape on my high school computers, I made friends at high school over RuneScape, it was so long ago that there are fond memories that brings that sharp emotion of nostalgia.
Like, I play OSRS a lot more now than RS3 despite overall preferring RS3. Three maxed accounts and no care for completionist gets a bit boring after a while. I love the PvM, but after doing HM Zuk hundreds of times it does get a bit boring. I played since 2006, I am one of the best candidates for nostalgia, I voted for it to be released back in the day! But as release day happened, I got on, got off tutorial island, and realized I hated what I was playing. I wasn't maxed on RS3, hell I didn't have a single 99 by the time OSRS came out, so I ditched OSRS to continue RS3. I was fine with EoC overall, I liked the beta, and while it was rushed and jank on release it got so much better! Revolution++ is so great, Necromancy has become my favorite skill next to Archaeology, I never got into PvM until EoC came out, so there are some feelings of nostalgia for the early days of RS3. I hated Squeal of Fortune, I hated the MTX they were adding, but the core of the game I loved was still there. I play OSRS more now because I'm bored if the same grinds AND so much more content was released I never got to try. I wasn't playing when Zeah was released, I'm a huge quester and so many unique quests came out for OSRS while RS3 stagnated, new takes on content otherwise released was super cool like Prif, and the biggest factor was Group Ironman. mode. I'm not a solo guy, but mains get boring when you can just buy everything. I got some of my old buddies into OSRS because of group Ironman and that's kept me playing ever since.
Nostalgia was never a factor in my reason to play OSRS and I've played since before OSRS was even a backup. As Jimmy said, sometimes a sound will hit me, but my entire reason for playing or even joining in the first place never involves nostalgia.
I love Asmon mentioning a pie chart graph when J1mmy is yelling “LOOK AT THE GRAPH, THE GRAPH DOESNT LIE”
Nostalgia makes you come back but new updates and contents makes you stay in the game. So nostalgia was like 50% of the reason why old school players came back. Nostalgia is like a hook so Asmon is kinda right.
@@richardkim3652 but theres tens of thousands of players that never played before OSRS. they have no ties to runescape nostalgia.
@@richardkim3652 I completely agree, Asmon is overstating it a little, and Jimmy is understating it a lot. We are still getting RS2 content added into the game to this day like the Path of Gouphrie for example that is around the corner. Like you said, nostalgia doesn't keep keep people but it does bring them back.
@@LPcrazy_88 Finally someone who understand what I'm saying thank you! lol
@@LPcrazy_88 Finally someone who understands what I'm saying thank you! lol
That nostalgia definition pull up was REEAAAACHHINNNGGG. He's using "nostalgia" like it's a word that applies to anything you want that used to be a thing... Like... You're not nostalgic for happiness if you're in an abusive relationship and want out, you're just trying to get out of an abusive relationship. There's no nostalgia involved, lol
I think maybe you two agree on this subject more than either of you would admit to each other. Nostalgia definitely has a part, I think maybe... Nostalgia has a diminishing return, but it can be revived after you take a break. That "Item sold on the GE" sound effect ALWAYS gets me the first time I've come back. It's... It's a factor, a powerful factor that gave the games their own initial playerbase, something that is NECESSARY for an MMO, or just any online game to succeed. Even if a player is playing without nostalgia, someone that just started in 2017, those players are influenced by the fact that there is a thriving community there, and many of those people were at some point influenced by nostalgia.
i started playing osrs like 8 months ago, and for me nostalgia is a complete non factor in enjoying it, I didn't play it as a kid an imo everything about it stands on its own merits. Anecdotally I've recently started playing maplestory, a game I did play as a kid, nostalgia was 100% a factor in my picking it up again, but it isn't what gets me to log in and grind everyday.
I really enjoyed both this video and the original, in general I think it's really interesting watching creators react to their own content after the fact. As you showed here there's a lot of perspective to be gained from having the conversation again, especially with new insights from commenters etc.
Good video
👍
this is my new favorite j1mmy series
I can't wait for By Release to do DT2 tbh
Farming asmon episode 4 😂
I don't play a ton of OSRS, but I can tell you this - when Runescape and Runescape 2 were at their height, in like 2003-2007, I was barely aware it existed.
I did not have any knowledge or interest in the game before I saw McTile, actually, I watched Swampletics after McTile had already gotten to like episode 3. I even played through like 90% of the F2P content in OSRS, on a whim, some time like last year.
Nostalgia is the furthest possible factor for me. I feel nothing - nostalgia-wise - for the graphics, audio, writing, or gameplay. Asmondgold has no idea what he's talking about (as usual).
What Asmon doesn't get is that nostalgia is ADVERTISING. Nostalgia is a not a feature of a game. Gameplay is a feature. Runescape is a game with good advertising AND good gameplay. Advertising gets people into the game, gameplay is what keeps them there.
It's interesting that Asmon has the entire idea of nostalgia backwards. He argues that nostalgia is what gets people to stick around. That's the one thing nostalgia is useless for, if he argued that nostalgia is the driving force for getting people to TRY the game, he'd have a point.
The problem with his argument is runescape was one of the most popular mmo's even back when "oldschool" was just runescape. There was no nostalgia back then, because it was the current version of the game. If it's purely nostalgia, then why was it popular to begin with?
And mind you, it was SO, DAMM, OMNIPRESENT back in the day (alone side MySpace lol), that I could be playing it in public and quite a few people would regonize it.
You don't get a player base that big when the game was still "new" over past feelings that couldn't even exist yet.
It was so popular because it was good for its time and there wasn't anything else. Same with wow
@@SpearraI learned about the GE when I was FTP training on goblins on the library computers
you and asmon on that 200 mil Farming grind
"I disagree with facts because I have hypotheticals that supports my argument so therefore those are right and the graphs are wrong" He really didn't listen to anything you said and just kept repeating "WELL I THINK..." and takes his feelings and thoughts as fact. Can't tell if he's just too stubborn to admit he might be wrong in front of his chat, or if he really does think his opinions hold more water than the ACTUAL GRAPHS AND EVIDENCE.
I didnt notice the "no shoes, feet locked" first time around lmao. So glad you paused there.
35:49 "content creators are all older guys." Looks over to Settled whos basically become the biggest OSRS creator, and he's like 26 years old XD
I'm 26 - he's 3 years younger than me!
Also, PoisonPotion, another young guy, didn’t start playing the game until 2017. He literally never played as a kid and even has a video where he said there is no nostalgia, it’s just a good game.
Ikr? Wasn't he like 18 when Swampletics was coming out?
I'm a new player because of finding videos from Settled and J1mmy. I had never played this game before last year and am now 7 quests away from the quest cape. Nostalgia didn't get me here, didn't keep me.
Settled gave us so many new player , the swampletics series was a true blessing
Nostalgia is the feeling when its your first time on in years and you’re going to the GE and you’re feeling it and then you see everyone in there banks
Love the discussions you're bringing to the scene, I think you're a huge part of why this community and game is so good. Keep up the good work.
The amount of people I have met that have said something along the lines of "I've never played OSRS but I love X series and watch every episode" or "I tried the game because I saw X video" is insane to me. These players don't have nostalgia they are just interested in what OSRS can be.
Also a point that's been made a lot is that OSRS is easy to watch. Runescape3 might be 'modern' graphically and mechanically, but it is almost impossible to understand what the hell is happening unless you're skilling.
The take away from this is that Asmon doesn't know what nostalgia means. In the same way he doesn't understand most things he talks about (including WoW).
Nostalgia gets your foot in the door. Being a great game keeps you trapped inside
This is the truth about nostalgia
A good analogy would be a reformed crack addict going back and trying some candy he used to eat as a kid. The nostalgia kicks in and he enjoys the candy for a few minutes, then forgets about it. He then decides to try some crack again cuz he remembers the nostalgia of his crack days. However, with crack being crack, he can’t stop once he’s started again, and eventually finds himself in a deep crack hole years later.
He didn’t continue abusing crack because it was nostalgic, he kept abusing crack because it’s crack.
@@acow1385no it's not
I'm loving this, keep em coming Jimmy
Jimmy making a video for Asmongold to watch, and having him not listen to a single point is a true monkey's paw wish.
Nostalgia brings us back. Good gameplay and consistent updates keep us around. I don't know why that's such a contentious point.
Asmon: Spends the whole video arguing about hypothetical situations of games releasing in the current time in hypothetical universes where they didn't ever release the original version of this hypothetical game
Also Asmon: "I don't like arguing with people with like, uh, theoreticals" 54:35
I came back for nostalgia but I stayed and played longer because of the new contents and updates so Asmon is kinda right. Also I played RS in 2001 so im a very old school player that's 100% nostalgia and ALL my friends are also very veteran players to lol.
That was a crazy contradiction to say right at the end!
Sounds like Asmon is projecting hard lol
@@Spearra Exactly! Projecting his Classic Wow experience onto OSRS
asmongold Lost his own argument
38:39 "I'm not saying runescape would fail if not for nostalgia" & " RuneScape gets new players"
That's every game.... WoW Classic is nostalgia and still gets new players, FF14 has nostalgia and still gets new players and GW2 has nostalgia and still gets new players. What Asmon is trying to say I think is that nostalgia is the main reason why old veteran players come back and new updates and contents are the reason why they play and stay longer. A good example is me and my friends. I played RS in 2001 and I came back to OSRS in 2021 because of all the good memories I had since it was my first mmo and the new updates and content is the reason why I stayed and played longer and that's the same with all my friends who are also old RS veteran players.
@richardkim3652 exactly that's why you came back in 2021 pretty sure that today in 2024 you're not still running on those memories from 2001
@@richardkim3652
He clearly said
"THIS GAME O N L Y Exists because people have nostalgia for it."
now he said
"I'm not saying runescape would fail if not for nostalgia"
contradiction
@@mrbubbles6468 to comment said "came back" after 3 years you're not still coming back you've been there for a while
@@unarmeduim2150 But what I am saying is the initial players who came back were the old school veteran players then the new people came watching them and they came back because of nostalgia so nostalgia is the cause so it's like 50% of the pie chart. That's why I agree when Asmon said nostalgia is a really BIG reason why people started playing again. Then they stayed for the new contents and updates which is the other half 50%.
The only thing I learned from this is that Asmon doesn’t understand what nostalgia is
I've played RuneScape on and off since 2004. I do still feel nostalgia on occasion to this day, in the same way that Jimmy mentions in the video. Especially when you're running around in F2P areas and hearing some music you don't hear too often anymore as a mid/late game player ('Fanfare' in Fally comes to mind). I feel nostalgia in those moments. That is NOT what keeps me logging in every day. If that's all there was - no new content or QoL improvements or anything - I'd stop playing after like an hour and not come back, until I felt like playing for another hour a year later.
3:50 this is some Multiverse of Madness shit
edit: perhaps it's because I'm an active OSRS player, but even with understanding where Asmon is coming from, the nostalgia I get from a music track is like a puff of a vape when the game at large is the tobacco farm. It's not even close to what fuels the addiction.
coughing a little bit too much to this one
that shot’s budget was insane
@@mrbubbles6468 meanwhile me, someone who heard about RuneScape for the first time in 2018. played a main account for a year and quit. then started an iron recently and finally surpassed it making it almost to song of the elves.
@@mrbubbles6468 I agree. My own experience is a little different, but I'm sure this is the case for many!
One of the main things i find different between OSRS and WOW Classic, as someone who has played both runescape and wow for over 15 years, is that there is no fundamental one thing that is different between classic and retail wow. There was no one event that made huge changes to the game marking a before and after date, like EOC or the trade restrictions. Wow classic is way more based on nostalgia than OSRS ever was, since this is literally about "we just want it to be how it was when we were younger", despite it not being fundamentally different.
This can also be seen with how much people like Asmongold was going for the "no changes" rhetoric while classic was getting ready for release, they don't want a classic wow but better, they just want it to be 2006 again. That's also why wow classic hasn't seen the longterm success that osrs has had, because wow classics fans largely consist of people just wanting to play what they have played before, whilst osrs players wanted a game that was in a different fundamental state than the new version, and have been (after some years of course) been very okay with new things being added, things rebalanced and changed, as long as the game is now fundamentally what they enjoy playing.
Long rant sorry, but I find Asmon deeply annoying in how he treats wow classic versus retail wow and needed to get this off my chest.
@@mrbubbles6468 cata suddenly replaced the map/quests in old zones but every other aspect of the game was slowly changed over the course of 3-4 expansions. quest design gradually changed from sporatic random questgivers to centralized hubs. raid designs went through a ton of different player numbers, difficulty modes, and encounter styles. dungeon design radically changed from sprawling mazes to optimized corridors. battlegrounds, arena, and pvp ranks completely changed pvp. crossrealm/phasing/lfg/lfr further complicated everything. wow had no 1 singular eoc-tier update that changed the game
I'd argue that wow classic and osrs fans are the same. Neither is seeking the highschool version of their favourite game. They're seeking a better version of it.
The difference is that blizzard is using wow classic for nostailiga bait, literality redoing all the exact same updates in order. OSRS is a new game entirely. WoW classic could easily be the next big MMO to dethrone WoW if they stop with the nostaligia baiting and just make brand new community approved content updates.
@@MyNameIsSalo I think his point stands though. The massive rallying cry of "no changes" really left the game's development in deadlock.
I can't blame the community, as it doesn't seem like there's leadership you can trust at blizzard to grow the game in a positive way, but they planted their flag, and whether a vocal minority or not, the zeitgeist of the community was definitely nostalgia and "authenticity" driven. The simplest example of that problem was how the community berated the devs into trying to develop a zombified version of batching, citing irrelevant PvP scenarios and other nonsense to support their claim that "everything must be as it was for classic to be valid".
You're probably just viewing it from the same perspective as a portion of that fanbase (myself included) who would've preferred classic+, as the game has no long term merit without growth and change to accommodate the 15+ year gap it needs to clear to survive. But I don't believe that's really the prevailing sentiment of WoW players, or at least it wasn't during classic and classic TBC.
It’s very easy to say that something is nostalgic if your definition of nostalgia is “feeling good about something you once did.” If that were the case, nostalgia could be plastered on everything. Every time you return to a live service game after a new season releases, or even when a sequel to a popular game comes out. Asmon fundamentally misunderstands nostalgia
Loved this video Jimmy, can't wait to see the next react multiverse video!
I really would love to see you guys just sit down and actually discuss the two games, I think it would be a great conversation!
As soon as they start iterating on the old product, nostalgia is no longer a factor in getting players to come (if it was nostalgia, players would have stayed pre-updates to OSRS)
Saying nostalgia is the main reason discredits EVERYTHING that has happened in the community since 2013
I don't understand how Asmon keeps making arguments that he just doesn't understand what he's saying
(wow asmon is small brain - the game is so different than what 2007scape launched as)
That's... Not how it works at all
Nostalgia 100% is the reason most people come back. It's not the reason people continue playing, but to say most people don't come back because of nostalgia it's absolutely wrong
That's just factually untrue on the basic definition of nostalgia.
You're right in the strawman that a game that has had updates is not the same game as the one you are nostalgic about, but the nostalgia absolutely pulls people back. Nostalgia is also not just the game, it's remembering a time, place and emotions. It's remembering being a 7 year old in Lumbridge not knowing what to do and I kill goblins. Nostalgia is remembering begging my mom to get a membership because I really wanted to make bronze claws. My nostalgia for Runescape has not one relation to the actual state of the game, but of my perception and mindset of the game at the time I played.
@@Caio22011 even if you're right, nostalgia doesn't account for how many people are playing. OSRS is mostly new players, not old ones.
@@oopomopoo Your argument means *all* video games rely on nostalgia, if they played games at a younger age. Completely ridiculous idea.
I'd say it is more familiarity than nostalgia, but the two can be similar. Seeing a game that looks like you remember, even if you know it is new stuff you aren't familiar with, makes it more approachable for returning players. But it is not exactly "a wistful or excessively sentimental yearning for return to some past".
It is like saying going back to a restaurant you liked is a decision driven by nostalgia. You can be nostalgic for an old restaurant from your childhood, but you can also just like going to eat at a restaurant because it makes good food. Same sort of thing is true for OSRS. Going back to play the Expansion/DLC/Updates of a game you enjoyed isn't exactly because of nostalgia; it is honestly more akin to like a style of game or series like Zelda and buying the new release.
Asmongold's refused to consider your arguments...
Saying Old school RuneScape is mainly succeeding because of nostalgia is ignorant. Imagine someone took your car, changed the engine from an 8 cylinder to a 4 cylinder, removed power steering, painted it bright pink, and replaced your disk brakes with drum brakes. If you asked for your old car back and that person said "you only want/like your old car because of nostalgia" you'd look at them like they're insane. Sure, to some extent that car has memories attached that make you nostalgic. But that car drives completely fucking different from your previous car.
This is what happened to RS3. They changed the combat and sold their soul. The game became garbage. Players wanted their old car back, partially due to nostalgia but mostly due to the fact that the other version of the game was clearly better. Just because people like a different version of the game doesn't mean the only reason it's thriving is due to nostalgia.
Nostalgia is me going back to play Club Penguin for an hour or two. I visit the old towns, maybe do some mini games, check out the puffles, and then I log out. Never to log in again for years because I only wanted to log in for some nostalgia. I can't keep playing it constantly getting nostalgia from the game. That's not how it works, it's not an infinite dopamine loop. I like OSRS because this car drives way fucking better than the pile of shit down the street, not because I long for the old days.
I think both of you are right to an extent. Nostalgia brought players back, innovation is why we stayed.
As someone who just started OSRS for the first time just a week ago -- nostalgia has not played any part in my unhealthy amount of playtime already.
@@mrbubbles6468 Playing group iron with some friends.
The video lengths keep doubling, Asmon's react will be 2 hours long 💀💀💀
double it and give it to the next person
I started playing OSRS a couple years ago because I don't like Evolution of Combat, I experienced some nostalgia while relevelling my character in the early game, but quickly became enamored by all the new content I didn't even know about (and definitely did not exist in the 07scape, RS2 I played) and the new content that continues to come out, which is what keeps me playing the game to this day. Also Leagues is probably my favorite thing to ever happen to Runescape. Love the vid!
Talking about osrs an nostalgia is like talking about NES tetris and nostalgia. There are newer, prettier, more optimised versions of tetris. The NES tetris scene is bigger than ever these days, with most of the people playing it being born decades after it came out. Something that is quality isn't just nostalgia.
On the one hand, I love jimmy's content. on the other hand I really don't like that other guy. Can you just do a video where you react to yourself ad infinitum? That would be so much nicer to watch
What's wrong with asmon?! I don't watch him but I saw a clip of him on X and he seemed pretty reasonable. This as well.
@@kaikash his smug aura mocks me
@kaikash alot of asmons takes can be pretty polarizing. Alot of people hate him, alot of people love him, a TON of people tolerate him cause he has some good takes sprinkled in with the bad. He's also pretty narrow minded and deadset on what he thinks is right and not what the general population typically agrees on.
@@XionicAihara Vocal population*
@@kaikash He's emotional and aggressive, extremely confident in things he doesn't understand and vocal about it. He's the guy that takes a glance at something, thinks he knows it better than anyone, takes a shit on it and then expends the rest of his life repeating how right he was.
He is sometimes right, but he does opinionate about everything you can imagine... so he's mostly wrong. A lot of people enjoy watching deranged nonsense, so he got rich from it.
Decided to take a shot for every time Asmon says „I think it’s the same for WoW”, needless to say I’m gonna hold Jim accountable for this liver transplant
Dude's got it backwards, Brighter Shores IS the nostalgia bait. It's the RS3 style and the Gower name being used to sell a completely different gameplay. Brighter Shores flopping only proves that nostalgia can't carry the weight OSRS is bearing.
If it wasn’t for Asmon I would have never discovered your channel. Glad I did!
That game mode scene was one of best RUclips scenes I’ve ever seems, still gives me chills the second time
I don't think Brighter shores is even comparable because the reason why people ask for 'Old School Runescape' is because of the vast amount of content and the diversity of said content. It's had years to build apon itself while having its other self(RS3) to test out what "could work". With community input and polls, It's had a lot of refining, and will continue to be refined. Having Brighter Shores, a new game that doesn't have those years of refinement is a voiceless comparison.
People can find what they like within the countless amount of communites that runescape carries. Just like jimmy's showcase of all the unique accounts with goals that other games don't provide. There is so much to do!
Side note: I think the same about POE and POE2. POE has had those years of building apon itself, and POE2 is going to be a brand new start.
the hall of the mountain king montage of all the different ways people play osrs is one of my favorite things. ever.
lol love these reacts to reacts! Honestly just glad to get more J1mmy
I want J1mmy and Asmon to have an MMORPG podcast and just argue about this shit for hours
Days, even
that would be the good timeline
Introduced my friend to OSRS, all he could do was rave about how many things it did correctly where others failed. I'm positive it could do well if released today, and all the evidence points to that.
I think Asmon is slowly moving the goalposts or construing his argument so he can continue to be correct.
I think by the end of this video he is no longer arguing that nostalgia for the game RuneScape is what brings players in. Instead he is arguing that nostalgia for that era, or nostalgia for this type of game is what brings in players. Maybe that's true. But that doesn't change the fact that RuneScape, in its current form, is where it is today because the game has changed.
“Biggest driving factor” bro maybe .5% like a sick drop rate on boss. That’s nostalgia. A rare drop. In a bucket.
People didn't play the game up until EoC because they constantly felt nostalgic.
Eoc was a shit launch and if the combat system from today was implemented on day 1 of eoc, a lot less people would have quit.
@@akaku9 What's different today? I haven't been on there since EoC.
@@Jomama7272 There's simply not enough time in the day to compare the two. EOC release was essentially a thought concept compared to the system today. Revolution should have been implemented from day 1. They essentially enlisted their entire player base to do Q&A on a game system that none of the developers had any experience with whatsoever. All without asking first.
If you could buy a maxed character with maxed gear and play the endgame on day one; you would understand. It's not even a bad game. The only drawback is you must play as an ironman, as that's the only way you'll get an authentic experience. It truly feels like the way runescape was meant to be played. The grinds are still long but the QOL is unmatched.
There's tons of abilities (probably 2-4x the amount on launch), all the combat styles feel equally strong, the end game is fuckin sick.
I could go on.
A lot of people hate on runescape 3 and it's justified. But it's really not a bad game anymore.
If you haven't tried it out in years and your sick of spending 20-200 hours doing various tasks ranging from mild to ball crushingly monotonous in osrs; RS3 ironman might be a breath of fresh air to you.
I've played mostly the same account from around 2006 to today and I was a hell of a lot closer to quitting when EOC dropped than I am now. I made an Ironman the day the gamemode dropped and I haven't looked back since.
Its like people forget, evolution of combat caused the want for rs2 to be brought back.
They changed the fundamentals of the game.
bro really confidently said "most osrs updates are for veteran players" and doubled down when chat said he was wrong 😭
This is by far one of the best meta commentaries on meta commentary discussions I’ve ever seen. Thanks
Asmon is usually spot on about what general audiences care about in their games, but I think the dude has a fundamental misunderstanding of what nostalgia is and how it relates to games. As he says, he even thinks people like classic wow because of nostalgia. Which while true for some, a lot of people like it more because it isn't retail. Not because it's 'old'.
I don't think he has knowledge of the sheer amount of new players that have zero nostalgia and connection with the original game.
There are 2 things that stand out to me in his reaction here that he is completely wrong on that I make me question how much he understands the general audience. The first is as you say, his fundamental misunderstanding of nostalgia. The bigger one got me is the discussion about graphics. A game that OSRS has a lot visually in common with (blocky, low fidelity) is THE most popular game in the world. It's not about graphics, as had been proven time and time again, gameplay triumphs. Minecraft is a special beast so its not easy to make a ton of comparisons but games that only have good graphics fall off, exactly like games that rely on nostalia for sustainability. They don't have GROWING player bases Y/Y.
@@TheHMinnow my understanding of what he means by graphics is appealing to the widest possible audience. It is true that you should have good graphics to get regular joe shmoe interested at first glance. Like if I showed some random guy at work osrs he'd be confused lol.
I never played vanilla wow, but I play classic era still 5 years after classic wow's release, and its nothing to do with nostalgia, its just a great game world.
@@TheHMinnowStardew valley is another one, that game is a huge success just because it is good. Hell even Fortnite has cartoon graphics. It really doesn't matter
Keep farming, dawg
I'm here for it
This will possibly be a bigger debate than last night's presidential debate! I'm here for it Jimbo
I'm not as Asmons fan at all but I really enjoyed your original vid & love these reacts as it gives you the time to expand on your thoughts as well as some back & forth. Great Content J
we are too many levels deep. we cannot go back.
We can only go deeper
You never quit runescape, you only take extended breaks 🤪
Jimbo! Just have to say for the third time watching your Hello Fresh ad read, that is the best planned and executed ad I've ever seen on RUclips. As good as your video is, the ad is my favorite part.
I rarely like videos in the first 25 seconds.
Excellent. Love this. Top quality.
You're going to make a great farmer Jimmy!
Looking forward to your journey and if I speak for anyone else in the audience, WE LOVE reaction videos.
It's almost like you're watching a video "together" with your favorite creator. And you're a great host for this - well spoken and level headed, no crazy takes out of left field.
Rooting for you jimboi 🚀🚀
There was someone (edit: He is called Marstead) who made a multiple hours long video called something like "OSRS is not an MMORPG" which was very good. The guy had never played any version of Runescape before he started OSRS, and yet it was such a different experience compared to other MMOs that he fell in love with it and got a quest cape. His main point is that OSRS is fundamentally different from other MMOs in how it works and how people interact with it, and that's what makes the game great. That's why people play OSRS. I very much think that if you deleted the history of Runescape and released OSRS today with none of that context, it would do very well.
Also lmao at the "I always hear about new bosses" thing. Yes, Asmon, Scurrius the Rat King was released for people with maxed accounts who beat Dragon Slayer on release in classic.
You're thinking of Marstead! Yeah, I re-listen to that video from time to time, because it's right on! OSRS sticks with epople becasue there just isn't another game like it. It's got just the right combination of play flexibility, intensity when doing higher-action stuff, and long-term progression.
@@andrethyst905 Yes! That's the one. Couldn't remember his name. Thanks!
i think the thing i found frustrating was the point where both of you acknowledge osrs success has something to do with nostalgia you saying its not the main driving factor and him saying it is, but he kept thinking you said it has nothing to do with it at all even tho your opening statement said it was not the "main driving factor for osrs success" .
I think him not knowing much about osrs and the history had alot to do on his perspective and i could understand any one on the outside looking in could see an oldschool backup as nostalgic, but lynx titan or marni or bazilijus and the other thousand that but in 10k hours dont do so for nostalgic reasons.
I do hope he plays the game even if its just to do dragon slayer 1 but would be cool to see him get a fire cape or do toa or could you imagine him pking LOL
Had this in my head and glad you covered it around 33 min, "Nostalgia gets new players IN the door, but new original content and community is what makes OSRS strong"
love these videos as someone who discovered osrs in 2019 and had never played any games like it prior
lvl 3 in lumbridge is nostalgic .
J1mmy repping that RS community lfg
the reaction reactions are perfect J1mmy lmao
Completely agree with you, i feel like as a 20 year old and being part of the younger player base, i cant even have much nostalgia considering ive been playing OSRS since 2019, ive been addicted af but it has nothing to do with nostalgia. I feel like i can have nostalgia for something like old minecraft version, but as you point out, i can only play for about 20 minutes until the effect wears off and im suddenly just playing an outdated version of the game. It beginning to get frustrating that Asmond is not seeing the point that you make about OSRS not being driven by nostalgia XD. Anyway, love the video essays, watch every single one, sometimes multiple times.