It reminds me of the original classic horror films; Dracula, Wolfman, Mummy, the Creature from the Black Lagoon, they all had this kind of intro-credits sound.
I believe in my heart that if simon reads enough comments about how close he is to being a noise musician maybe it will subconsciously leak into his psyche and he will finally convert to the dark side
Wait, he isn't? The algorithm put this vid in front of me, so this is my first video of his. This is a brilliant piece of noise gear, what is he doing if not noise? 🤨
@@timkai I mean he's making noisy sounds, but Simon doesn't make noise, he makes sort of experimental electronic pop. This video and the other feedback loop videos are just the little baby steps towards making noise, so I just think it would be awesome to see what he could make if he was indeed trying to make noise music.
@@creepynickel084 check out his video called "No Input Miku Is Probably The Dumbest Pedal Idea Ever". At around 5:00 he made some spooky sounding stuff with miku pedal.
Sending already vibrating air through a wind instrument = amplitude modulation. Like two oscillators through a ring modulator. Or singing through a saxophone.
I just went to an event with 10k people playing the kazoo and all I can think of is using it to modulate a sound source having one between the talk box and the mic could be sick. same as with anything that resonates. really we just need speakers that play through the objects
Sometimes it sounds like the suspense music in a horror movie, and on some other settings it sounds like the atmospheric music of older sci-fi movies, and sometimes it sounds like some kind of alarm on one of those older sci-fi spaceships.
The first half is pure horror soundtrack. The 2nd half is very mid 20th century experimental stuff. I especially loved the low bass BWAAAA sound. That would make some great industrial music.
Oh my! You're using the flutes as passive resonators for the talk box! Some electric organs have pipes installed over their speakers in order to provide a more authentic resonance, and it seems like this is operating on a similar principle. The talk box supplies an oscillation, and then the flute that you opened with the key starts to vibrate due to the sound. Since the flute is mic'd, the talk box sends that resonant frequency back into the flute, and the tone gets louder. Really, really innovative and cool choices with the signal chain too, bravo.
This is incredible. I didn’t think this was going to be an in-tune chromatic instrument - normally “horror” instruments are chaotic, atonal, and/or microtonal nightmares without much use outside of spooky sound effects for dramatic effect (like the waterphone or apprehension engine or bowed cymbals). This is unironically awesome, and seems so damn useful. I want to make one now. Try hooking the talk box up to a slide trombone next!
Something about the tone created by the flutes just screams Japanese horror soundtrack to me. Feels like a trippy section from Silent Hill or Siren or something. I'm imagining that it would play in a section where you encounter something that will push your shit in if you don't avoid it or unload a bunch of shotgun ammo into it as soon as possible
that section around 5:50 with the insane drive/output combo captures the essence of what i really really enjoyed about the soundscape created during portal 2's ost. i wouldn't be surprised if they used a similar technique themselves to generate those noises.
I loved the last one but couldn't put words to why, and love this one too but have a better idea why. The last one was definitely human, it communicated something almost recognisable, like a feeling of described emotions or something. This one was just pure cosmic horror, the first section was Lovecraftian but the second was 2001. Properly otherwordly, un-understandable. Bloody beautiful though, utterly enthralling.
The comparison he made to it being "ready to scream, but it won't. Unless I press." Just took the horror up a notch. Like I could totally see what he's saying and it's kinda freaky.
On low feedback it sounds a bit like a glass organ, and when pushed a bit... It just raises hell! Man, that's a lovely instrument ❤ Something I'd like to build at home! Kudos!
You got a tone going at the end that sounded like it was being 'bowed' so there is potential there for some really unique sounds after a bit more exploration.
I like how this thing can go from suspenseful horror ambiance, to industrialcore, over to the undying screams of tormented souls locked in an instrument of infernal making... it is just absolutely and staggeringly amazing. Just the sheer versatility of this setup is a goldmine. Love it!
Fabulous sounds. Back in the days I used to modulate feedback through a cornet, using the valves. Try it! It worked better with the mute on, for some reason. Other brass probably works too.
I am so surprised this works. Like, how are the flutes sounding, I don't even know if they are sounding, but clearly they're the key to it working as a chromatic instrument, at least before you introduced the second feedback loop in the mixer. You're honestly the only one crazy enough to try stuff like this :) So surprised this works like it does.
@@seanephramRegarding that image, after looking at it just now: It reminds me of a picture I took back in ~2003, using an old Webcam with a focus wheel. I took it apart and found that if I removed the wheel that was slipped over the lens, but had inbuilt limiting stops, I could focus down waaaay further... My Nokia phone had a bright white LED flashlight, and I used that to take a really awesome closeup image of my eye! I immediately threw it into photoshop and played around with the colors, saturation, contrast, etc. _(to really make it pop, as I have blue eyes)_ But while doing it I had noticed, in the darkness is my pupil, I could make out something... I dialed the brightness up a bit and it was a reflection of open my bedroom door! I dubbed the image: _"The Doorway Into My Soul"_ 😊
So I’ve been watching Simon for a while. One thing confuses me. How is sub number is so low. Even if you aren’t into his music or instruments. He’s freaking great entertainment
A few years ago I had an idea for something similar, sort of an "electric pipe organ", where you would have a set of pipes (probably PVC) of different lengths, each one having it's own small speaker at one end, and a microphone at the other, and a keyboard that would basically unmute it's respective pipe's mic when pressed. I figured it would probably have a volume swelling effect like yours did, so you could add a short white noise impulse on each key press to get the feedback going, which would probably end up sounding like the percussive sound of a real organ. Or the whole thing would sound terrible... Alas, I never created it.
It's like some kind of interesting delay modulated thing using a feedback loop, but with a mechanical layer to it rather than being all electronic. And the tubes within have certain resonance properties. Certainly gives some interesting ideas, given how it works. Might be a way to emulate this digitally to some extent (my space and budget constraints make VCV Rack a no-brainer for that to some extent), but that would need a tiny bit of some seeding noise source to copy the analog noise-floor properties in the same manner that no-input mixing does if copied on a computer. Perhaps that's a hint for anyone else considering the sound-lab-in-a-laptop approach?
Simon, you never cease to inspire and amaze. Keep exploring and finding new tones and instruments in the process! Cariad fawr o Gymru brawd - Much love from Cymru [Wales] brother!
Beautiful horror sounds! This was a big discovery! I would like to see it utilized in an actual horror movie or a movie short like we see in a lot of backrooms content. Thank you for sharing!
That would be perfect for sampling dubstep sounds. I know you've got a "no input feedback" series going, but is it possible to use the organ as a talkbox auto tune for synths and guitars?
i was thinking maybe a melodica could do something like this too but maybe would require more force/drive to get proper resonance from the reeds. but i dunno! i don't have a talk box!
I wish I had these toys. I would run this into FL and use the frequency splitter to send the low end to a separate track and use grossbeat to put the low end in half time and sidechain both tracks to a drum track for maximum spooky grooves. Like a funky nightmare. Or any random scene from The Mighty Boosh.
See, the haunting flute bit is for when you're in an unfamiliar area and you know something is wrong, but you're not quite sure what The harsh sound of the double-feedback is when it finds you.
It has me thinking of the Feedback track from the live Dead album, White Noise, Silver Apples, Pink Floyd and Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music. I'd love to hear what you - or this - could do with a drum and bass rhythm section.
(5:25) This sounds a LOT like some of the sounds from RYKARD's album _Arrive the Radio Beacon._ I don't know if you or anyone here has heard it, but most if not all of the tracks have that weird, blowy, very nautical (well, as he made them) sounds. Highly recommended, btw. 😉
The chasis for the talk box looks like it originally housed one of three Deadbeat Sounds multi effects. I have the multi reverb and multi modulation of those. The reverb is meh better than nothing, but the modulation is totally lame. What the LFO is set at is definitely something I wouldn't use. The "filter" or auto wah setting doesn't use the LFO and sounds actually pretty good. I like it enough to make it part of my regular bass tone. I opened one up the other day and the pc board has "modulation," "reverb," and "echo" silkscreened on it to mark which one of the three it is. In the middle of the pcb is a square IC with like 40 pins coming off it.
This is absolutely amazing! Are you going to make a talk box of your own to sell? If you are, I'll wait to buy yours. Otherwise I need to get one to reproduce the cool sounds from these last two videos
The textures and timbres this setup is generating remind me of a subway train conducted by a singing whale, riding the rails down a tunnel shaped like a giant saxophone. Bravo Maestro Magpie! That was great ride!
In terms of how it works: The melodica is acting as a very sharp bandpass filter in the relatively high gain positive feedback loop. Once you engage the loop, even tiny sounds within the filter passband get rapidly amplified. This results in the filter's resonant frequency (the melodica note). I think some of the interesting tone is happening because the melodica is not only allowing through the root note, but also letting through some of the harmonics at pretty high intensities - acting as a complex compound set of filters rather than just a single filter. My guess is the feedback loop drives those higher order harmonics a lot more strongly than just blowing on the melodica would, which is where the more ethereal tone is coming from
It's great! I wonder what it would take to make a VST equivalent of this setup. I'd like to see if I can put together something similar with my digital stuff some day.
This isn't the type of content I usually watch and I've never come across your channel before, but this video popped up in my feed and WOW what an amazing setup you've stumbled upon. The sounds being emitted from that thing are haunting.
It almost sounds like the ring oscillators from the "musical tonalities" of the 50s movie _Forbidden Planet._ (Ring oscillators warm the cockles of my heart. Yes, I'm odd.😊)
I literally just now made it so I can have double tube and put one in my mouth. So I would say I am one step closer to not being able to tame it at all, haha
Hainbach and Merzbow are probably fighting on Reverb for the last remaining ones of those organs. :P Cool sounds though. I really did not expect it to work but it did. It did in very nice way.
No one else on RUclips experiments like you Simon. Yes, there are about a dozen practically useless string replacements for bass but every once and a while you stumble across something like this and its genius, like genuinely a new instrument: "why haven't I seen this before it makes so much sense?". So inspiring. Hell yeah
I actually have a 70s bontempi chord organ that sometimes struggles to push enough air through the lower pitches. What comes out is a harmonic of what should be the fundamental because air is still entering the valve. The timbre is quite similar to the first example on the feedback organ though Magpie’s organ is much cooler and is more flexible with this timbre. My chord organ can still play lower notes but you have to warm it up and often the attack is rather slow. It also probably doesn’t help that the volume control snapped off before I even bought it so it’s constantly stuck at loud. Love playing around with it lol.
For some reason playing this from my phone at the lowest volume is still insanely loud and it's like unlocking a part of my hearing i must not use or something. Very relaxing sound. Like whales.
It's like you've recreated the way that scraping metal together is sonorous, by creating a feedback loop of the sound trying to stay at a certain frequency (the same way that metal has a resonant frequency)
I think you have basically created an analog frequency filter. The talk box is setting up standing waves in the tube and flute that is basically allowing the frequency of the flute and it’s harmonics through and not much else. And then when you add the feedback loop you can just bring up the sub harmonics.
This is very interesting. Just think of the possibilities. One I can imagine is maybe hook the mic to an AP system and play something through that Into an auditorium.
Your neighbors must adore you! It does have sort of like a late 80s/early 90s horror B movie vibe. We watched some 'scary' educational shows when I was a kid and they had very similar feeling sounds to this. There's a ton of potential in there
Once again, brother Simon comes up with another very cool group of sounds that can be used for music production. It truly is all about expanding the ever growing library of sounds to be used in music production or live performance.
You can capture so many vibes on that thing! At first it sounds like something following you through a dark forest or in some cold, underground abandoned place, then to like an ancient Japanese ghost story, to full on dystopian warzone. Then a mix of all of it. Gets my imagination goin big time. So cool!
Dude I was just on a RUclips channel about unsolved Japanese cases and it was freaking me out so much that I had to watch one of your video so I could sleep peacefully. What are the chances that it had to be thus video 😅😭 like the one time you make creepy sounding Japanese horror music lol
it reminds me a little of the sound of a saw being played, but with a steadier tone. Super interesting experimentation, love it! I'm working on a horror project atm, and that sound is exactly the kind of thing I had been thinking of for a soundtrack. Really dissonant, industrial, and eerie sounding.
Putting all these horror sounds up on www.magpiestuff.com/ if you wanna download and make it even more horrific, hehe.
WHERE?
It reminds me of the original classic horror films; Dracula, Wolfman, Mummy, the Creature from the Black Lagoon, they all had this kind of intro-credits sound.
@@hooligan740 I can't seem to find it on his website either.
Thank you!
it is called a vocoder ... it is something from the 60's... and appears on many songs since then
"So, do you play any instruments?"
"Oh yeah, I play the feedback organ for my weirdcore band."
😂
The 1st person would look it up but wouldn't find anything. 😅
I believe in my heart that if simon reads enough comments about how close he is to being a noise musician maybe it will subconsciously leak into his psyche and he will finally convert to the dark side
I hope he does make music eventually, this is pure experimental wonder
There are 199 likes. Just ONE more!
Wait, he isn't?
The algorithm put this vid in front of me, so this is my first video of his.
This is a brilliant piece of noise gear, what is he doing if not noise? 🤨
@@timkai I mean he's making noisy sounds, but Simon doesn't make noise, he makes sort of experimental electronic pop. This video and the other feedback loop videos are just the little baby steps towards making noise, so I just think it would be awesome to see what he could make if he was indeed trying to make noise music.
big coil/nurse with wound vibes lol
Now combine that with miku horror setup and you’ll be able to create one hell of horror soundtrack.
OMG YES !!
Miku horror setup?
@@creepynickel084 check out his video called "No Input Miku Is Probably The Dumbest Pedal Idea Ever". At around 5:00 he made some spooky sounding stuff with miku pedal.
Seriously. Go to A24 and Blumhouse and tell them your ready to do all future scores.
Sending already vibrating air through a wind instrument = amplitude modulation. Like two oscillators through a ring modulator. Or singing through a saxophone.
Ooooh thank you! I need to understand more of this science 😆
But how does the air start moving in the first place. Is it like because there's hissing coming from the speaker, just from it being engaged?
@@SimonTheMagpie you can modulate the sound of a feedback just moving your mouth in front a mic, right? I guess it's sort of like that
@@kassemir Indeed, there is also sympathetic resonance at play here, and it needs to be set off by something, could be hiss or any external noise.
I just went to an event with 10k people playing the kazoo and all I can think of is using it to modulate a sound source having one between the talk box and the mic could be sick. same as with anything that resonates. really we just need speakers that play through the objects
“It’s ready to scream, but it doesn’t. Unless I press” is an absolutely terrifying sentence
Interrogation
Sometimes it sounds like the suspense music in a horror movie, and on some other settings it sounds like the atmospheric music of older sci-fi movies, and sometimes it sounds like some kind of alarm on one of those older sci-fi spaceships.
dude you're not wrong
Those are theremin
Yeah theres something oddly familiar about the sound
I feel like this would serve a good purpose for making audio for a siren head game/show/movie etc.
Some of it would fit right at home with the pseudo-retro indie horror game series Faith.
makes me want to plug a talkbox into every instrument imaginable
The first half is pure horror soundtrack. The 2nd half is very mid 20th century experimental stuff. I especially loved the low bass BWAAAA sound. That would make some great industrial music.
This new Kraftwerk single is awesome.
Silent Hill 5 (the good version, ft. the haunted tiger electronic handheld)
2nd half is Five Nights at Freddy's sound effects.
Oh my! You're using the flutes as passive resonators for the talk box! Some electric organs have pipes installed over their speakers in order to provide a more authentic resonance, and it seems like this is operating on a similar principle. The talk box supplies an oscillation, and then the flute that you opened with the key starts to vibrate due to the sound. Since the flute is mic'd, the talk box sends that resonant frequency back into the flute, and the tone gets louder. Really, really innovative and cool choices with the signal chain too, bravo.
I wish I knew this stuff so I could say it in the video 😅!!!
@@SimonTheMagpieI love how happy you are to share your music findings, your passion is contagious
This is incredible. I didn’t think this was going to be an in-tune chromatic instrument - normally “horror” instruments are chaotic, atonal, and/or microtonal nightmares without much use outside of spooky sound effects for dramatic effect (like the waterphone or apprehension engine or bowed cymbals).
This is unironically awesome, and seems so damn useful. I want to make one now.
Try hooking the talk box up to a slide trombone next!
Ooh yeah I will! I only have a weird budget slide trombone but might be cool 😁
@@SimonTheMagpieHow about something even more budget: a slide _whistle?_ 🤔
@@DUKE_of_RAMBLE do it for the meme
*Hainback intensifies*
Yes! Lol
Something about the tone created by the flutes just screams Japanese horror soundtrack to me.
Feels like a trippy section from Silent Hill or Siren or something.
I'm imagining that it would play in a section where you encounter something that will push your shit in if you don't avoid it or unload a bunch of shotgun ammo into it as soon as possible
Maybe something like a flesh eating nanite swarm messing with speakers. Invisible but heard through electronic interference.
i would pay an absurd amount of money to have one of these. someone should start building these professionally
Working on it! Or at least something with the same principle 😁
it might be possible to make an electrical version with a modular synthesizer
This setup is a glitch-hop goldmine
Sample the video!
Yesssss
right? i was thinking of two songs that sounded exactly like this, internet connetion by M.I.A, and Nervenheilanstalt by Pisse 💀
Wow. I was not expecting what happened when you added the mixer feedback. This is stunningly wild.
Like, this is for sure going to inspire a whole genre of instrument. At least DIY and boutique, if not full scale production models.
That would be incredible to see! And buy 😄
that section around 5:50 with the insane drive/output combo captures the essence of what i really really enjoyed about the soundscape created during portal 2's ost. i wouldn't be surprised if they used a similar technique themselves to generate those noises.
Reminds me of the intercom messages from SCP containment breach
completely unrelated but i love your pfp, Legends Arceus is one of my favourite games
2d pixel horror type beat
I can imagine a horror game centered around ratman with this kind of soundtrack.
omg yes i thought the same thing! some of the notes are very similar to the P2 ost
I loved the last one but couldn't put words to why, and love this one too but have a better idea why. The last one was definitely human, it communicated something almost recognisable, like a feeling of described emotions or something. This one was just pure cosmic horror, the first section was Lovecraftian but the second was 2001. Properly otherwordly, un-understandable. Bloody beautiful though, utterly enthralling.
Thank you for a wonderful comment 😊
sometimes you don't need to know why
The comparison he made to it being "ready to scream, but it won't. Unless I press." Just took the horror up a notch. Like I could totally see what he's saying and it's kinda freaky.
Pretty cool Sci-Fi sounds. I can see how this can be useful in music and movies.
Anyone else enjoying watching the Magpie to noise/experimental pipeline?
The idea of sound piped through flutes is mind bending
On low feedback it sounds a bit like a glass organ, and when pushed a bit... It just raises hell! Man, that's a lovely instrument ❤ Something I'd like to build at home! Kudos!
if i heard these sounds alone in a dark room with a blood red sky outside I think I would simply die. absolutely epic work dude
Well, the ghost would probably be the winning team so, congratulations.
"The blood moon rises once again."
I fell asleep to my Watch Later playlist, and this woke me up, scaring me shitless
You got a tone going at the end that sounded like it was being 'bowed' so there is potential there for some really unique sounds after a bit more exploration.
How the hell does this channel keep getting better? Where's this gonna go? I'm excited to find out.
That's super nice! So glad you are discovering feedbacks and their musical use! Waiting for your next pedal that includes them ;)
That second feedback sounded so much like a sawtooth. I feel it would be really fun to analize the spectra of this instrument
I like how this thing can go from suspenseful horror ambiance, to industrialcore, over to the undying screams of tormented souls locked in an instrument of infernal making... it is just absolutely and staggeringly amazing.
Just the sheer versatility of this setup is a goldmine.
Love it!
Fabulous sounds. Back in the days I used to modulate feedback through a cornet, using the valves. Try it! It worked better with the mute on, for some reason. Other brass probably works too.
This could be a really awesome way to do analouge horror! Thats the kind of vibe i was getting from this
i love the textures, this creates. It reminds me of making music with glass and metal
I am so surprised this works. Like, how are the flutes sounding, I don't even know if they are sounding, but clearly they're the key to it working as a chromatic instrument, at least before you introduced the second feedback loop in the mixer.
You're honestly the only one crazy enough to try stuff like this :)
So surprised this works like it does.
Yeah I’m also surprised and a bit clueless, haha. And thank you 😁
Thanks to Simon, now I have the perfect soundtrack to accompany my soul crushing depression and anxiety 😭
Ouchie hopefully you are able to get proper help and not just stuck with my sounds!
Feel u bruv 😂
came here to compliment your scott walker pfp haha
@@seanephramRegarding that image, after looking at it just now: It reminds me of a picture I took back in ~2003, using an old Webcam with a focus wheel. I took it apart and found that if I removed the wheel that was slipped over the lens, but had inbuilt limiting stops, I could focus down waaaay further...
My Nokia phone had a bright white LED flashlight, and I used that to take a really awesome closeup image of my eye!
I immediately threw it into photoshop and played around with the colors, saturation, contrast, etc. _(to really make it pop, as I have blue eyes)_
But while doing it I had noticed, in the darkness is my pupil, I could make out something... I dialed the brightness up a bit and it was a reflection of open my bedroom door!
I dubbed the image: _"The Doorway Into My Soul"_ 😊
Is this where I leave my.....
Feedback?
Ooooohoohoho nice 😆😆😆
I never thought anyone would make me wish I owned a talk box!
So I’ve been watching Simon for a while. One thing confuses me.
How is sub number is so low. Even if you aren’t into his music or instruments. He’s freaking great entertainment
i kinda wanna see what new builds hit the shop as a result of all this experimentation, that LED synth was a knockout
A few years ago I had an idea for something similar, sort of an "electric pipe organ", where you would have a set of pipes (probably PVC) of different lengths, each one having it's own small speaker at one end, and a microphone at the other, and a keyboard that would basically unmute it's respective pipe's mic when pressed. I figured it would probably have a volume swelling effect like yours did, so you could add a short white noise impulse on each key press to get the feedback going, which would probably end up sounding like the percussive sound of a real organ. Or the whole thing would sound terrible... Alas, I never created it.
You know I’ve always wanted to make a song intro with MRI machine noises maybe Simon is the one to do that lol
It's like some kind of interesting delay modulated thing using a feedback loop, but with a mechanical layer to it rather than being all electronic. And the tubes within have certain resonance properties. Certainly gives some interesting ideas, given how it works.
Might be a way to emulate this digitally to some extent (my space and budget constraints make VCV Rack a no-brainer for that to some extent), but that would need a tiny bit of some seeding noise source to copy the analog noise-floor properties in the same manner that no-input mixing does if copied on a computer. Perhaps that's a hint for anyone else considering the sound-lab-in-a-laptop approach?
Simon, you never cease to inspire and amaze. Keep exploring and finding new tones and instruments in the process! Cariad fawr o Gymru brawd - Much love from Cymru [Wales] brother!
Beautiful horror sounds! This was a big discovery! I would like to see it utilized in an actual horror movie or a movie short like we see in a lot of backrooms content. Thank you for sharing!
getting real defective/damaged sirenhead off of this and im LIVING for it. the sounds were MESMERIZING in a twisted way. awesome discovery!!
That would be perfect for sampling dubstep sounds. I know you've got a "no input feedback" series going, but is it possible to use the organ as a talkbox auto tune for synths and guitars?
Hey! I will totally try yes 😁
That initial double feedback portion sounds like a portion of some crazy metalcore track.
Im counting on you to make horror-happy music now
from 5:30 it sounds like a computer on fire eating itself alive.
Giving off Aztec death flute vibes
Really cool sound, thanks for sharing.
ingenius! so much potential with this.
i was thinking maybe a melodica could do something like this too but maybe would require more force/drive to get proper resonance from the reeds. but i dunno! i don't have a talk box!
I wish I had these toys. I would run this into FL and use the frequency splitter to send the low end to a separate track and use grossbeat to put the low end in half time and sidechain both tracks to a drum track for maximum spooky grooves. Like a funky nightmare. Or any random scene from The Mighty Boosh.
This sounds like it belongs in Portal. Like the processes of an evil/rouge AI put converted into tone.
The engineer on the freight train to Hell blows his whistle, and this comes out.
😄
This sounds ridiculously brutal man!!! Haha! So gnarly and such an awesome idea!!! 🤘🐀
See, the haunting flute bit is for when you're in an unfamiliar area and you know something is wrong, but you're not quite sure what
The harsh sound of the double-feedback is when it finds you.
It has me thinking of the Feedback track from the live Dead album, White Noise, Silver Apples, Pink Floyd and Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music.
I'd love to hear what you - or this - could do with a drum and bass rhythm section.
I found the noises very comforting, thank you ☺️
(5:25) This sounds a LOT like some of the sounds from RYKARD's album _Arrive the Radio Beacon._ I don't know if you or anyone here has heard it, but most if not all of the tracks have that weird, blowy, very nautical (well, as he made them) sounds. Highly recommended, btw. 😉
The chasis for the talk box looks like it originally housed one of three Deadbeat Sounds multi effects. I have the multi reverb and multi modulation of those. The reverb is meh better than nothing, but the modulation is totally lame. What the LFO is set at is definitely something I wouldn't use. The "filter" or auto wah setting doesn't use the LFO and sounds actually pretty good. I like it enough to make it part of my regular bass tone.
I opened one up the other day and the pc board has "modulation," "reverb," and "echo" silkscreened on it to mark which one of the three it is. In the middle of the pcb is a square IC with like 40 pins coming off it.
100% Japanese horror instrument right there. call it "mk ultra" as a nickname xD
Man accidentally creates the harshest industrial ambiance with a little talk box fella
That's cool as shit, awesome sauce. We should maybe do like a horror collab on the server!
Yes! We did halloween once. We should just do straight up horror.
That would be really cool! Do it right away 😄
It would also be great for an Industrial band!
This is absolutely amazing!
Are you going to make a talk box of your own to sell? If you are, I'll wait to buy yours. Otherwise I need to get one to reproduce the cool sounds from these last two videos
Yeah I think I must! At least a limited diy experimental one 😄😄
6:07 sounds exactly like the "WHOOOOOOO! YEAH BABY THATS WHAT I WANTED!" meme
The textures and timbres this setup is generating remind me of a subway train conducted by a singing whale, riding the rails down a tunnel shaped like a giant saxophone. Bravo Maestro Magpie! That was great ride!
In terms of how it works: The melodica is acting as a very sharp bandpass filter in the relatively high gain positive feedback loop. Once you engage the loop, even tiny sounds within the filter passband get rapidly amplified. This results in the filter's resonant frequency (the melodica note). I think some of the interesting tone is happening because the melodica is not only allowing through the root note, but also letting through some of the harmonics at pretty high intensities - acting as a complex compound set of filters rather than just a single filter. My guess is the feedback loop drives those higher order harmonics a lot more strongly than just blowing on the melodica would, which is where the more ethereal tone is coming from
It's great! I wonder what it would take to make a VST equivalent of this setup. I'd like to see if I can put together something similar with my digital stuff some day.
Oh you make vsts? Please hook me up on discord if you wanna collab on something maybe 😁
This isn't the type of content I usually watch and I've never come across your channel before, but this video popped up in my feed and WOW what an amazing setup you've stumbled upon. The sounds being emitted from that thing are haunting.
Who would dislike that? That was epic.
It almost sounds like the ring oscillators from the "musical tonalities" of the 50s movie _Forbidden Planet._ (Ring oscillators warm the cockles of my heart. Yes, I'm odd.😊)
Seriously, this is uber cool! It’s such a wild beast, will be interesting to see if you can tame it. :D
Thanks for some great content, as per usual.
I literally just now made it so I can have double tube and put one in my mouth. So I would say I am one step closer to not being able to tame it at all, haha
3:05 It sounds to me like when you take a violin's bow and start bowing a cymbal!
Hainbach and Merzbow are probably fighting on Reverb for the last remaining ones of those organs. :P Cool sounds though. I really did not expect it to work but it did. It did in very nice way.
6:06 that one mf " *MICHEAL!!* "
No one else on RUclips experiments like you Simon. Yes, there are about a dozen practically useless string replacements for bass but every once and a while you stumble across something like this and its genius, like genuinely a new instrument: "why haven't I seen this before it makes so much sense?". So inspiring. Hell yeah
Haha yeah I miss that era though 😆😆😆 and thank you!!
I actually have a 70s bontempi chord organ that sometimes struggles to push enough air through the lower pitches. What comes out is a harmonic of what should be the fundamental because air is still entering the valve. The timbre is quite similar to the first example on the feedback organ though Magpie’s organ is much cooler and is more flexible with this timbre. My chord organ can still play lower notes but you have to warm it up and often the attack is rather slow. It also probably doesn’t help that the volume control snapped off before I even bought it so it’s constantly stuck at loud. Love playing around with it lol.
For some reason playing this from my phone at the lowest volume is still insanely loud and it's like unlocking a part of my hearing i must not use or something. Very relaxing sound. Like whales.
It's like you've recreated the way that scraping metal together is sonorous, by creating a feedback loop of the sound trying to stay at a certain frequency (the same way that metal has a resonant frequency)
It might be interesting to try this setup with an octave pedal. +1, -1, and dry signal for example.
Yeah I will totally try that soon!
That's really cool. I had thought about attaching things to the hose. But something like a melodica hadn't occurred to me.
you are currently my main inspiration for making frequencies for meditation sessions
I think you have basically created an analog frequency filter. The talk box is setting up standing waves in the tube and flute that is basically allowing the frequency of the flute and it’s harmonics through and not much else. And then when you add the feedback loop you can just bring up the sub harmonics.
This is very interesting. Just think of the possibilities. One I can imagine is maybe hook the mic to an AP system and play something through that Into an auditorium.
This sounds like the main instrument in a soundtrack to a horror movie that takes place on a submarine
Sounds great, terrifying, but great. Be ideal for a horror movie soundtrack.
Dude that sound straight up reminds me of the intro to Kick The Habit - Insane. Absolutely wild.
Interesting, to me, it sounds like Wavetable synth.
Your neighbors must adore you!
It does have sort of like a late 80s/early 90s horror B movie vibe. We watched some 'scary' educational shows when I was a kid and they had very similar feeling sounds to this.
There's a ton of potential in there
Sounds like something like a massive scifi horror
Once again, brother Simon comes up with another very cool group of sounds that can be used for music production. It truly is all about expanding the ever growing library of sounds to be used in music production or live performance.
That sounds absolutely amazing!
I know nothing about these things…but would it be possible to plug an arpeggiator into that? 🤔
Probably in the feedback loop somehow
You can capture so many vibes on that thing! At first it sounds like something following you through a dark forest or in some cold, underground abandoned place, then to like an ancient Japanese ghost story, to full on dystopian warzone. Then a mix of all of it. Gets my imagination goin big time. So cool!
Dude I was just on a RUclips channel about unsolved Japanese cases and it was freaking me out so much that I had to watch one of your video so I could sleep peacefully. What are the chances that it had to be thus video 😅😭 like the one time you make creepy sounding Japanese horror music lol
The type of situation that makes one believe we live in a simulation 🤣
I need a Silent Hill style horror game with this instrument as a big thing in the soundtrack
This thing speaks to me on a deep level
it reminds me a little of the sound of a saw being played, but with a steadier tone. Super interesting experimentation, love it!
I'm working on a horror project atm, and that sound is exactly the kind of thing I had been thinking of for a soundtrack. Really dissonant, industrial, and eerie sounding.
I could get sounds very much like the second set using my cheap RadioShack MG-1 synthesizer running through my cheap little RadioShack effects box.
That synth is just a rebranded Moog Rogue. This sounds very much like a monophonic synth.
The sound between just the talk box and the melodica I found the most atmospheric and oddly pleasing and dark as hell. Super cool