@@JayTesseracT I clocked that "first 3 16ths in group of 5" pattern from concealing fate too. But you displace the snare in the song. It's a cool pattern.
Agree, and as a first step into double bass polys introduce 16th note double bass notes under that in 3 under the 4 patter with China or ride. So 16ths on the double bass in three under a 4/4 pattern with the snare on 3
Why are djent drummers always so kind and warm? Matt halpern along with jay are always so freaking good to there fans and fellow drummers. One of the big reasons i listen to both of there bands🎉
It's great that you work on percussion in programming backing tracks, it'll make you a better musician, for your own enjoyment, but also for your band mates'. My guitarist and songwriter has been practicing drums for a while, we work together on a whole new level now. I might even pick up a guitar to return the favor. 😄
Same here! I love watching drum lesson videos to get a better understanding of how an actual drummer plays so that I can try and mimic the approach in my drum programming. It’s also fun to just listen to a track and try programming it out by ear (I recently did this with New Millennium Cyanide Christ by Meshuggah).
Thanks for the ample repeats/time for playing along, its 2023 and lots of us are practicing right along on an e-kit/in front of a screen, nice to not have to click back and loop a section 10 times just to lock it in - also 4 camera angles is wonderful, im a visual learner even with drums so sometimes just being able to see the delay between left/right foot for that kick pattern is super helpful
My pleasure. Check out the full lessons on my website - there's a special player built in that lets you loop those exercises, slow them down in real-time with the notation too. Grab a free account here: jaypostones-drumlessons.com/free-lessons/
The second exercise at 4:34 is essentially the basis for Shutterspeed by Karnivool. Thought it was so cool when I finally figured out it used a 4:3 with some extra 16ths on the kick.
I've easily spent around 15 hours studying this lesson. I've only been playing for 10 months now and I have a very crappy setup, but I finally managed to play the simple ¾ polyrythm for the first time. I don't know if it's considered easy but I almost had a stroke. You don't exactly count it, you kinda feel it.
I remember your stream asking about naming your quick VODs to reel in, and this was the Perfect Naming of it! I'm showing this to my dad! It's going to be insane
I really want to get back to the djent! I used to play in a band that was heading in the djent direction about 10 years ago. Well, that band is over and done. I played in some metalcore bands and now some rock stuff. I really believe that once you nail these grooves down you can play any kind of music and make it more interesting and djenty. That's exactly where I'm at now. I want to djent up boring rock without overplaying or using unmusical fills and licks. I feel djenting up beats makes you organically improvise on time in a way that works for any style. It's just math! And it sounds cool as hell while making it challenging, unique and fun to play. Thank you for these lessons! I have listened to tesseract since concealing the fate. 🤘
Thank god for youtube! At 36, while I regret not starting drums sooner than age 18 and not working harder in the last decade, but now I have a much more regimented approach and I have these awesome videos to help!
@12:45 "and now for the challenge" and I'm like "whhhaaat?!!" My ears are smoking, and every time I open my mouth I can hear sizzling. Can anyone else smell bacon? So actually hard to play. Props to you dude!
haha, thanks dude. This was a totally random pattern and for the record, I quantized it for this video so that it wasn't dreadfully out of time - but the process remains the same. This method can be used to write stuff like this so easily, once a few patterns are familiar.
Things like these patterns here showcase brilliantly how integral and important some level of formal training can be to ur respective playing. So many more doors are opened up to the drummer by knowing things like these polyrhythms and being able to integrate them into ur playing. Well done man!
@@JayTesseracT Oh wow, you'd never know it! It's awesome that you're sharing your gift with up and comers! I've played myself for about 35 years, and the ease with which you play and flow through the music is what jumped out at me personally. Again, well done man and cheers from across the pond!
I've been jamming in the metalcore/djent genre for over a decade now and feel that this lesson procided a lot of value. My practice sessions are a lot less intentional these days since I'm no longer aiming to be a career musician, but I still like working through exercises as long as they're fun. The 3 and 4 over 5 groupings is something I've never thought to work on and seems super fun. I also agree with your flow state mindset and I'm excited to try and bridge some of these together. I imagine it'll help some of those classic Periphery grooves feel a bit more natural. Thank you for sharing the knowledge as well as your killer grooves in your original music 💪
I cover this extensively in my course: Progressive Drumming Masterclass. And if you join my mailing list, you’ll get a free lesson that covers programming drums too 🤘🏻
Thanks for the lesson Jay, very clear and very helpful. I learned from this, can play all of the patterns, but this is great for practicing and will ultimately make me a better drummer. Youre awesome
I saw you guys at headbangers parade in Den Bosch, it was so sick! Used to listen to a bit of tesseract way back but that got me back into it. Musically and technically you guys stood above the rest for me that day! Currently waiting for my double pedal I got with some birthday money to be delivered, can't wait to try these. Thanks a lot man!
Jay I’ve been playing for 38 years now and I feel like I learn something new every time I see a video like this. This is awesome. It gives me a lot to chew on and hone my skills a little more. Do you have any exercises for getting my weak hand up to speed?
Thanks for the kind words. In terms of getting your limbs to work for you - hoenstly - it's just about practice. Some people will say they have a shortcut, but there isn't a shortcut - there's just time you put into intentioanlly working on that thing you want to unlock. Try playing offset doubles leading with that hand, to a metronome, so: L R R L L R R L and so on. I like to make the first LEFT in each of those an accent too.
Definitely no need to reinvent the wheel with patterns like that - if switching to the left at a different point offers you more flow, then stay with it.
I've always tried to put my thoughts into words when I tried to describe what I love about playing drums like THIS. The most "cohesive" explanation I always gave was, that I play the "melody" by kicks and hold the rythm by hands which is sort of the opposite of how you usually play drums. In any regular song, drums are there to purely hold the rythm and it just all boils down to kick snare kick snare kick snare really small and slow fill, repeat. And whenever I'm forced to play these I feel like I'm gonna die of boredom. Once I was in a situation where I was playing drums and we still had 15 minutes of time, so the production decided we all should do like 2-5 minutes solo improv. on each instrument. So the bass did this crazy jazzy improv that was smooth as hell, guitar was trippy and interesting too so when it was my time? Eeveryone expected I'll recreate the scene from Whiplash or something, instead I remembered the kick pattern from a song caleld "Denial" by Geneburn, which is SO MUCH FUCKING FUN to play. And did some improv around that. Let's just say that even people who were there for JAZZ didn't like the 3/4 drums, but hey... got the bag and fuck 'em all I had a blast :^)
this is an amazing lesson, really opened my mind up to what it is youre doing in some your songs and really gets me amped up to practice. More of these please!
I play the patterns at 6:36 and the one at 11:50 with left/right swapped, compared to jay, so its easier to bring in a right foot pattern on beat 8at least for me). This is especially cool for the 11:50 pattern to play a "normal" pattern with your right foot over it. As a djent connoisseur I agree to 100% with those grooves. Very essential :) gj Jay. See you on Twitch!?!
@@JayTesseracT Do you mind sharing the preset and which exact snare is that in Modern Metal EZX? Are you doing any additional mixing or using samples/plug-ins? Thanks, great content btw!
Hi Jay, thanks for the great video! One question: Where does your "awful" midi-guitar-sound come from? Would be useful and fun for me to play along to some midi guitars while practicing such grooves. Thanks! Manfred
Every drummer should be able to play Pattern #1, no matter what genre they're into. I do that exercise with all my students
It's a useful pattern for sure. That 3/4 Poly' forms the basis for a lot of TesseracT grooves
@@JayTesseracT I clocked that "first 3 16ths in group of 5" pattern from concealing fate too. But you displace the snare in the song. It's a cool pattern.
Very kind of yours to do this.. thanks and greettings from Buenos Aires.
Agree, and as a first step into double bass polys introduce 16th note double bass notes under that in 3 under the 4 patter with China or ride. So 16ths on the double bass in three under a 4/4 pattern with the snare on 3
How is it counted out loud....one e and ???
Why are djent drummers always so kind and warm? Matt halpern along with jay are always so freaking good to there fans and fellow drummers.
One of the big reasons i listen to both of there bands🎉
Guy just gave us 8 centuries of practice material
That's the goal - I don't want to leave anyone guessing what to practice next.
In 15 minutes, you "demystified" an entire "genre." Love it. Great teaching.
Glad you enjoyed it!
an entire djenre, if you will. And you will.
1:51 - Pattern 1a
2:22 - Pattern 1b
3:38 - Pattern 1c
3:46 - Pattern 1d
4:32 - Pattern 2
5:45 - Demo
6:36 - Pattern 3
8:52 - Pattern 4a
9:38 - Pattern 4b
9:57 - Pettern 4c
11:50 - Pattern 5
13:14 - Demo
Djent is "Shoes in a Dryer".
But do you even djent bro?🤓🥁
I'm not a drummer but I program drums for my guitar riffs and these last few videos are super useful for getting new ideas!
It's great that you work on percussion in programming backing tracks, it'll make you a better musician, for your own enjoyment, but also for your band mates'. My guitarist and songwriter has been practicing drums for a while, we work together on a whole new level now. I might even pick up a guitar to return the favor. 😄
Same here! I love watching drum lesson videos to get a better understanding of how an actual drummer plays so that I can try and mimic the approach in my drum programming. It’s also fun to just listen to a track and try programming it out by ear (I recently did this with New Millennium Cyanide Christ by Meshuggah).
What is some good free software to do the same for my bass playing ?
Check out Fredrik Thordendal. He writes some awesome drum parts while he’s just a guitarist. Dancers to a Discordant System is his masterpiece.
I'm pretty sure nowadays when I'm all amped up for something, my heart beats at these polyrhythms. Thank you soo much for these walkthroughs, brother!
Thanks for the ample repeats/time for playing along, its 2023 and lots of us are practicing right along on an e-kit/in front of a screen, nice to not have to click back and loop a section 10 times just to lock it in - also 4 camera angles is wonderful, im a visual learner even with drums so sometimes just being able to see the delay between left/right foot for that kick pattern is super helpful
My pleasure. Check out the full lessons on my website - there's a special player built in that lets you loop those exercises, slow them down in real-time with the notation too. Grab a free account here: jaypostones-drumlessons.com/free-lessons/
Goldmine!!
Jay, you are an absolute Djentleman. Thanks for sharing. Will keep me busy for a bit.
Lots of talent here. Hello from Denver
Hello from Charlotte NC
Yay, I am having fun and you've only just begun. Thanks, Jay I am inspired.
You are da MAN, Jay!
0:25 "Djent don't pay the rent" - Jay Postones
The second exercise at 4:34 is essentially the basis for Shutterspeed by Karnivool. Thought it was so cool when I finally figured out it used a 4:3 with some extra 16ths on the kick.
This was fantastic! Thank you for sharing!
I've easily spent around 15 hours studying this lesson. I've only been playing for 10 months now and I have a very crappy setup, but I finally managed to play the simple ¾ polyrythm for the first time. I don't know if it's considered easy but I almost had a stroke. You don't exactly count it, you kinda feel it.
100%
Fantastic lesson
Can't wait to see you in st. Louis soon bro. This tour gonna be sick!
I'm guitarist and love to watch jay videos...
The lesson that change my drumming totally boom💥
Awesome
I remember your stream asking about naming your quick VODs to reel in, and this was the Perfect Naming of it! I'm showing this to my dad! It's going to be insane
I really want to get back to the djent! I used to play in a band that was heading in the djent direction about 10 years ago. Well, that band is over and done. I played in some metalcore bands and now some rock stuff. I really believe that once you nail these grooves down you can play any kind of music and make it more interesting and djenty. That's exactly where I'm at now. I want to djent up boring rock without overplaying or using unmusical fills and licks. I feel djenting up beats makes you organically improvise on time in a way that works for any style. It's just math! And it sounds cool as hell while making it challenging, unique and fun to play. Thank you for these lessons! I have listened to tesseract since concealing the fate. 🤘
You are great ... really, thank you so much!!!!!!!
Great, video and really great teaching!!
Jay seems like a genuinely nice guy. This info for free is really awesome. Thanks Jay
When i saw this..i done subscribed...salute
seeing jay play the drums is borderline hypnotizing; thanks for the pointers, this is gonna be fun to practice!
Very much appreciate the generosity you have . Since discovering Tessaratt at Wembley arena DT gig, I have listened to little else.
Dude, same! In my defense, I'm having to learn it :D (also, thank you for the kind words!)
Jay, this is the best video I've seen on Djenting. You're really precise, thanks a lot
Glad you enjoyed it!
I like those double kick patterns, sick e-drums too mate
Longtime Tesseract fan. This is great stuff, SIR!!
Thank god for youtube! At 36, while I regret not starting drums sooner than age 18 and not working harder in the last decade, but now I have a much more regimented approach and I have these awesome videos to help!
Shoutout from Philippines! For sure this video will be shared to a lot of drummers out here
Pattern at 6:30 is the cell from gojira. Do a snare hit every time
Side note-I love how your rack Toms are set up. I have a seven piece and can never figure out where to put that third rack Tom
You are GOLD!
Polyrhythms are super important to have in the back pocket, especially for any sort of metal/complex jazz
Literal legend!
@12:45 "and now for the challenge" and I'm like "whhhaaat?!!" My ears are smoking, and every time I open my mouth I can hear sizzling. Can anyone else smell bacon? So actually hard to play. Props to you dude!
haha, thanks dude. This was a totally random pattern and for the record, I quantized it for this video so that it wasn't dreadfully out of time - but the process remains the same. This method can be used to write stuff like this so easily, once a few patterns are familiar.
New fan here! 🤘
Instant sub. Amazing stuff mate, cheers!
First, dude you’re really good. Second, I liked those beats more than I ought to have. I am going to try the easier ones.
Love the lesson. .. Keep the up Jay!
Thanks for teaching this excercises.... Jay The Master...😊
Thanks a lot Jay. For giving all this knowlege.
Great lesson!
Thank you for this!
Good works, thanks
Thanks my djent teacher
Love Tesseract. Your drumming is awesome. 🤘🏾
Thanks a lot!
@@JayTesseracT No problem. Hopefully see you guy's live sometime soon.
Things like these patterns here showcase brilliantly how integral and important some level of formal training can be to ur respective playing. So many more doors are opened up to the drummer by knowing things like these polyrhythms and being able to integrate them into ur playing. Well done man!
Thanks dude! I am 100% self-taught though so haven't been through formal training myself. I do teach though!
@@JayTesseracT Oh wow, you'd never know it! It's awesome that you're sharing your gift with up and comers! I've played myself for about 35 years, and the ease with which you play and flow through the music is what jumped out at me personally. Again, well done man and cheers from across the pond!
Thanks so much for these videos, as a drummer is really a gift you gave to us, much appreciated, you're the GOAT.
4:20 is the outro of Demiurge
best choice for beaters! dw sm110 are slays almost all of available competition
I've been jamming in the metalcore/djent genre for over a decade now and feel that this lesson procided a lot of value. My practice sessions are a lot less intentional these days since I'm no longer aiming to be a career musician, but I still like working through exercises as long as they're fun. The 3 and 4 over 5 groupings is something I've never thought to work on and seems super fun. I also agree with your flow state mindset and I'm excited to try and bridge some of these together. I imagine it'll help some of those classic Periphery grooves feel a bit more natural. Thank you for sharing the knowledge as well as your killer grooves in your original music 💪
Thank you - you are great and I love your music - power to you !
Thank you so much Jay for sharing this ❤ Gonna practice that for sure !
Fantastic teaching!
Thank you kindly!
Thanks mate
Thank you so much for this! Answered so many questions I’ve had.
More djent lessons please… teach me thine ways
I may be making DJENT 2.0 for a future lesson...
awesome! thanks for doing this!
This was way helpful as a newb songwriter/at bedroom guitarist lol. I still struggle with programming drums. But this helped out a lot! Thanks!
Such an amazing lesson! Big fan of your playing (and now teaching style), thank you so much! Looking forward to see more videos!
Fantastic stuff, thanks for sharing. Can't wait to try these out on the kit. 😎
I'm not gonna lie. A video intro to writing/ learning drums on a computer would be incredibly useful!
I cover this extensively in my course: Progressive Drumming Masterclass. And if you join my mailing list, you’ll get a free lesson that covers programming drums too 🤘🏻
Many thanks for the explanation a valuable tips in the video, going to try them up, kudos!
Thanks for the lesson Jay, very clear and very helpful. I learned from this, can play all of the patterns, but this is great for practicing and will ultimately make me a better drummer. Youre awesome
I saw you guys at headbangers parade in Den Bosch, it was so sick! Used to listen to a bit of tesseract way back but that got me back into it. Musically and technically you guys stood above the rest for me that day!
Currently waiting for my double pedal I got with some birthday money to be delivered, can't wait to try these. Thanks a lot man!
Jay I’ve been playing for 38 years now and I feel like I learn something new every time I see a video like this. This is awesome. It gives me a lot to chew on and hone my skills a little more. Do you have any exercises for getting my weak hand up to speed?
Thanks for the kind words. In terms of getting your limbs to work for you - hoenstly - it's just about practice. Some people will say they have a shortcut, but there isn't a shortcut - there's just time you put into intentioanlly working on that thing you want to unlock. Try playing offset doubles leading with that hand, to a metronome, so: L R R L L R R L and so on. I like to make the first LEFT in each of those an accent too.
Honestly, you’re an animal 🤘🏻
7:02 Super cool beat. Fairly simple but brilliant at the same time. Thanks! :)
Great lesson 👍 Can't wait to my next practice session in the rehearsal spot.
As a guitar player: I could watch this for hours and never get bored 🙏🏻
For the pattern at 6:23 it is more natural for me to change the order of feet ue RH/RF/LF/RF/RH/LF/RF/LF. Anyways it is nice coordination exercise.
Definitely no need to reinvent the wheel with patterns like that - if switching to the left at a different point offers you more flow, then stay with it.
I've always tried to put my thoughts into words when I tried to describe what I love about playing drums like THIS.
The most "cohesive" explanation I always gave was, that I play the "melody" by kicks and hold the rythm by hands which is sort of the opposite of how you usually play drums.
In any regular song, drums are there to purely hold the rythm and it just all boils down to kick snare kick snare kick snare really small and slow fill, repeat.
And whenever I'm forced to play these I feel like I'm gonna die of boredom.
Once I was in a situation where I was playing drums and we still had 15 minutes of time, so the production decided we all should do like 2-5 minutes solo improv. on each instrument.
So the bass did this crazy jazzy improv that was smooth as hell, guitar was trippy and interesting too so when it was my time? Eeveryone expected I'll recreate the scene from Whiplash or something, instead I remembered the kick pattern from a song caleld "Denial" by Geneburn, which is SO MUCH FUCKING FUN to play. And did some improv around that.
Let's just say that even people who were there for JAZZ didn't like the 3/4 drums, but hey... got the bag and fuck 'em all I had a blast :^)
This is great! Thank you very much for sharing this concise and helpful tutorial.
This will keep me busy for the rest of the year 😅
I hear the the Tesseract songs that go with these beats in my head
this is an amazing lesson, really opened my mind up to what it is youre doing in some your songs and really gets me amped up to practice. More of these please!
So how could we possibly get that end track you drummed along too? That was banging.
I play the patterns at 6:36 and the one at 11:50 with left/right swapped, compared to jay, so its easier to bring in a right foot pattern on beat 8at least for me). This is especially cool for the 11:50 pattern to play a "normal" pattern with your right foot over it. As a djent connoisseur I agree to 100% with those grooves. Very essential :) gj Jay. See you on Twitch!?!
*Djay Postones* 🎤 💧
You so cool!
I'm here coz trying to search "Djent drum basic".
THANKS A LOT. I AM TRYING TO PRACTICE NOW. ❤
What snare patch is that? It sounds so good!
It's one from the Toontrack Modern Metal EZX
@@JayTesseracT Do you mind sharing the preset and which exact snare is that in Modern Metal EZX? Are you doing any additional mixing or using samples/plug-ins? Thanks, great content btw!
Man that's great stuff thank you. Just had an elbow op and this will help immensely getting me back to speed 👍🙌
I'm ol school, I play be ear, double bass seperate feet.
Been playing since I was 5.
"The Gent" grooves really give me that ":D" feeling :D
Great vid mate. With my broken parts I probably Djent without knowing ... LOL
Dude that kick is intense.
Would go great with my industrial pop band. 👀
Jay: just making it up as he goes.
Jay: makes tastier djent then most of what is being played by guys spending months writing
Excellent video!!! When are we gonna get Toontrack Tesseract EZX? Would love to see this happen!
We spoke about it - but I think we're maybe looking at our own thing in the not-too-distant future
@@JayTesseracT Really looking forward to what you guys release! Thanks Jay!
Me like!
Hi Jay, thanks for the great video! One question: Where does your "awful" midi-guitar-sound come from? Would be useful and fun for me to play along to some midi guitars while practicing such grooves. Thanks! Manfred
‘Real Eight’ VST and the Neural Plugins
Fantastic lesson, amazing sounds. Are you triggering software or putting samples in the td-50?
I'm triggering toontrack Modern Metal EZX within Superior Drummer 3
@@JayTesseracT Is this possible, live? what audio interface are you using? RME?
hey Jay! thanks for the tips.
can you suggest, please, any advice on 5/4 prog-djent groove? )
Right here dude - this whole song messes with the 5/4 poly' in some great ways. jaypostones-drumlessons.com/courses/tesseract-hollow/
@@JayTesseracT yeah! thanks a lot!
and thank you for supporting Ukraine! appreciate very much. hope, to see you again in Kyiv and other cities!