There is a video from Trauma Team Racing that shows the only way really to set up triples with correct alignment, but in pretty sure you would have seen it already. Its all about pixel size to screen size with ams2.
Yeah, I saw that video. It’s excellent, but unfortunately didn’t solve my issue. I’ve resigned myself to playing with stretched sides for the time being. It works for me in WRC, so I’m sure I’ll get used to it in AMS2
Important considerations about tires, tire wear and how to best manage it, posted by Renato on the Reiza forums: " The F-Ultimate Gen2 has 3 tire compounds loosely representing the 5-compound range of the real-life Pirellis (C1 to C5, former being the hardest and the latter being the softest option IRL). In real life, Pirelli decides on which 3 compounds of the 5 available they will take to each event based on track characteristics, weather forecast etc. For races like Spain, Japan and UK for ex. (all tracks with predominance of long high speed corners run in reasonably warm weather) Pirelli usually takes the 3 hardest options (C1, C2 & C3). In tracks with predominance of low speed short corners like Azure, Spielberg or Montreal it´s the other way around, with the 3 softest compounds (C3, C4, C5) usually being selected In AMS2 the medium tire is based off C3, while the hard is sort of a middle ground between C1 and C2, with the soft a middle ground between C4 and C5 - this is the compromise we´ve settled on until we can support different compound selections per track (if and when that happens). What that means in practice is that if you´re racing at Barcelona, Kansai, Silverstone and even Interlagos, the soft tire in the game is actually softer than any of the compounds usually taken to those events, and it will tend to desintegrate within a few laps of hard driving in a race fuel load. On those tracks you should only race with mediums and hards to better match the selection teams actually have for those events (unless you mean to do a lot of pitstops :) ) It´s important to note also that wear isn´t equivalent to degradation - the 3 compounds won´t lose that much performance over the initial 50% or so of wear bar as indicated in the HUD (1s or so depending on the track), but beyond that point degradation is steeper, with tires really falling off a cliff in the last 20% or so. It´s also important to note that wear rates are directly related to the way they are driven - the more the driver attacks corners, the more friction is generated on the tread which will tend to accelerate the wear; because of that and the somewhat sensitive nature of the tires, drivers seldom if ever push 100% in races in real life because the lap time gain won´t be worth the extra wear and potential extra pitstop it will earn them. Hence the smooth style of rolling into and out of corners being pretty much mandatory during races for most tracks. "
Thanks for the video, Mike. I don’t find the tyre wear far off the mark in terms of the races that I watch on TV. I like how the AI now experience tyre issues more realistically (e.g. you were able to effect a pass when the pink car was sliding into the right-hander, heating up the left rear). Nonetheless, things always tend to get better in AMS2. Happy Easter!
My main issue with the car before was literally how just stupid the view looked out of the cockpit. The car reminded me of a phone app model just so bad. This looks great
For me the tyre wear is perfectly fine, listening to a lot of F1 interview and podcast everyone talk about how smooth you need to be with the tyres if you don't want to destroyed them.
You could be doing a lot more with the deployment modes - rebuild in the twisty sections and use attack or quali on the straights to overtake or defend
Where do you check the wear? If it's just visual, meaning the green going down in the game overlay, then just be aware that when there is now green, you are down to 50%, not at 0%. In simhub, one of the overlays that comes with the simhub gives you the value as percentage.
It is your driving. Nico Rosberg said in an interview in the last year (or two) of his F1 career of how easy it is to ruin a perfectly fine/new set of softs in a SINGLE lap, during qualifying. No offence to your driving ability but I'd put my money on his input. Guess this means we will all need to work extra hard not to ruin the life of these tires, just like the real drivers do. It is their top concern: how to be competitive without ruining the tires, which only takes a single mistake, like a brief lockup.
@@vincentparenteau6854 I can only imagine what must go through the minds of the developers over at Reiza if they're to watch this review by Mike. He and others often claims the sim isn't realistic enough. Well, the developers went through enormous lengths to try and improve that by bringing us what may be the closest simulation of F1 tire wear of any sim. And instead of recognizing this and changing his driving method, he rushes to make a video criticizing it, after one race, as he clearly wants to benefit from clicks. Watching his driving around Interlagos makes it clear that if he was to ever sit behind the wheel of a F1 car that he'd toast the tires before a lap was completed, and this would be the least of his worries. So, instead of taking the time to learn how to cope with the demands of this change, he instead is the first to make a video and naturally can't grasp it, so he resorts to criticizing it. Like they say, you can't teach an old dog new tricks but you can place a keyboard in front of him and watch as he bitches and whines as he fetches for clicks and likes.
Its too "slidy" and yaw is too much, but this is exactly what they are improving now so fingers crossed it will be good enough! I can already just hear the diffrence, before the car would squeel on tyres every turn now you can barerly heaer it.
So right now, I've only been using the LMDH cars, so maybe I need to try them. But neither they nor the F1 cars have ABS. So I'd say tire lockups are a real thing, and I'm sure in real life you can shred a tire through a lockup hence the quality drop. I have done the same thing, after like a couple of laps, one of my front tires is suddenly down like 12%. At le mans, one of the tires lost 60% of its life. So if anything this game taught me that braking needs to be taken seriously. Maybe it shouldn't be so easy to lock up? But I know you see it on the turns too. Camber and toe can play a part in tire wear as well. The last thing a sim needs is have a feature removed because the player base hasn't figured it out yet.
Want my old livery back! Also, these are so freaking fast, they smashed me at Suzuka last night - had to go back to F3 lol. Also, Campaign mode pls Reiza. Sheesh. Also, these 1:15 laps seem slow. Not a driving criticism, wondering if cars are slower after the update? What percentage is the AI on? I will try Interlagos after work. Far more forgiving than Suzuka.
@@utkarshchaurasia2233 as per the comment above. The physics and meaningful FFB are so far from realistic. In AMS2, the car does not feel connected to the road. You can’t feel the tyres and the way the cars drive is so unrealistic. It’s a shame, but I want super realistic, online competitive racing and this is something AMS2 will never deliver
*sigh* These cars race around 8 seconds slower than they qualify for a reason, Mike. Tyre life is better in AMS2 than it's ever been. You should not ever be able to drive these cars quickly and on the absolute limit in racing conditions with soft tyres on any track but Monacor
There's an option for a (semi)transparent HALO center that emulates what the driver would see in the real car. It also works for the mesh of the Formula Dirt (iirc). I think it was introduced with the RX cars or even earlier. EDIT: I think the setting is called "hide HALO stem".
@@Br0nzeBar0n Yup, it's definitely there. I'm just not sure off the top of my head if it's located under gameplay options or display options. It's just one of those really nifty things that is unfortunately easy to miss; the only mention of it outside the beta forums was in the changelog when it was introduced, I believe.
Easy fix for this: race in VR. Just like racing F1 in real life, with a VR headset you'd simply tilt your head a couple of degrees to one side or the other, in order to have the halo not obstruct the view. Thankfully AMS2 has the best VR support, so for those interested in the best possible experience, halo interfering with the view is a moot point.
Ams2 is not the best for triples, I don't use Nvidia surround, I use the inbuilt support, but you can't adjust while in the car which is not great. If you use a bezel hider it makes it even more hard because you constantly have to jump out of the race to adjust, then start the race/practice again. Also, no menu navigation using your wheel's hat sucks too. Acc has it implemented pretty good.
@@akpanjennings yeah, seating position is much different than screen adjustments... They definitely need to bake some "on track" screen adjustments onto the game.
Hate to break this to you but triple monitor setup is a thing of the past. Once you try racing in VR there's simply no going back, especially in AMS2 where the VR support is second to none. And this at a fraction of the cost and real estate space.
@@Slakass55 I have a quest 3, and run VR as well. But I also understand not all people can run VR and to get more people to play the game you have to compete. I prefer VR with Ams2, but sometimes I want to use the triples for guest.
I find that central pillar of the "Halo" seriously distracting, just can't get on with them at all. Surely they can come up with a safety measure that doesn't compromise visibility?
in a real life race you are rarely looking forward, you always looking to the apex / next corner, so you wont even notice it in real life, but in a game where your head doesnt move, yes it is distracting
I don't get it...Reiza constantly updates & improves but they're always a work in progress? I-racing has the crappiest tyre model & 2009 physics, 2005 visuals with minimal updates while charging a fortune & no one criticises? God help us, is sim racing nothing more than nerds saluting the rambling nonsense of Jimmy bloody Broadbent? Strange community indeed....
There is a video from Trauma Team Racing that shows the only way really to set up triples with correct alignment, but in pretty sure you would have seen it already. Its all about pixel size to screen size with ams2.
I agree… that video changed my triple screen experience.
Yeah, I saw that video. It’s excellent, but unfortunately didn’t solve my issue. I’ve resigned myself to playing with stretched sides for the time being. It works for me in WRC, so I’m sure I’ll get used to it in AMS2
Important considerations about tires, tire wear and how to best manage it, posted by Renato on the Reiza forums:
"
The F-Ultimate Gen2 has 3 tire compounds loosely representing the 5-compound range of the real-life Pirellis (C1 to C5, former being the hardest and the latter being the softest option IRL). In real life, Pirelli decides on which 3 compounds of the 5 available they will take to each event based on track characteristics, weather forecast etc. For races like Spain, Japan and UK for ex. (all tracks with predominance of long high speed corners run in reasonably warm weather) Pirelli usually takes the 3 hardest options (C1, C2 & C3). In tracks with predominance of low speed short corners like Azure, Spielberg or Montreal it´s the other way around, with the 3 softest compounds (C3, C4, C5) usually being selected
In AMS2 the medium tire is based off C3, while the hard is sort of a middle ground between C1 and C2, with the soft a middle ground between C4 and C5 - this is the compromise we´ve settled on until we can support different compound selections per track (if and when that happens). What that means in practice is that if you´re racing at Barcelona, Kansai, Silverstone and even Interlagos, the soft tire in the game is actually softer than any of the compounds usually taken to those events, and it will tend to desintegrate within a few laps of hard driving in a race fuel load. On those tracks you should only race with mediums and hards to better match the selection teams actually have for those events (unless you mean to do a lot of pitstops :) )
It´s important to note also that wear isn´t equivalent to degradation - the 3 compounds won´t lose that much performance over the initial 50% or so of wear bar as indicated in the HUD (1s or so depending on the track), but beyond that point degradation is steeper, with tires really falling off a cliff in the last 20% or so.
It´s also important to note that wear rates are directly related to the way they are driven - the more the driver attacks corners, the more friction is generated on the tread which will tend to accelerate the wear; because of that and the somewhat sensitive nature of the tires, drivers seldom if ever push 100% in races in real life because the lap time gain won´t be worth the extra wear and potential extra pitstop it will earn them. Hence the smooth style of rolling into and out of corners being pretty much mandatory during races for most tracks.
"
hello hugs from Brazil!! The only thing missing is the rain in interlagos, because it always rains in the races!
You can make it rain bro?
Thanks for the video, Mike. I don’t find the tyre wear far off the mark in terms of the races that I watch on TV. I like how the AI now experience tyre issues more realistically (e.g. you were able to effect a pass when the pink car was sliding into the right-hander, heating up the left rear). Nonetheless, things always tend to get better in AMS2. Happy Easter!
My main issue with the car before was literally how just stupid the view looked out of the cockpit. The car reminded me of a phone app model just so bad. This looks great
Great vid Mike, nice to see Reiza keep improving things and hopefully they sort the tire wear rates out you mention.
For me the tyre wear is perfectly fine, listening to a lot of F1 interview and podcast everyone talk about how smooth you need to be with the tyres if you don't want to destroyed them.
You could be doing a lot more with the deployment modes - rebuild in the twisty sections and use attack or quali on the straights to overtake or defend
taken a break from simracing but seeing some of the new updates for AMS2 is re-igniting my interest
Hello brother
@@legm5298 at ease, brother
It's good to see that they still improving the game, maybe 1.6 will fix the tyre wear issues... Still the prettiest in VR 😍
Where do you check the wear? If it's just visual, meaning the green going down in the game overlay, then just be aware that when there is now green, you are down to 50%, not at 0%. In simhub, one of the overlays that comes with the simhub gives you the value as percentage.
Mike, you have to try the Formula 1 Ultimate Gen2 at Nürburgring. Crazy fun! By the way which voice are you using for the spotter?
Reiza have updated their update log to explain how they have worked out the tires for the gen2.
It is your driving. Nico Rosberg said in an interview in the last year (or two) of his F1 career of how easy it is to ruin a perfectly fine/new set of softs in a SINGLE lap, during qualifying. No offence to your driving ability but I'd put my money on his input. Guess this means we will all need to work extra hard not to ruin the life of these tires, just like the real drivers do. It is their top concern: how to be competitive without ruining the tires, which only takes a single mistake, like a brief lockup.
100% agree. After watching this video I did a race on Interlagos and my tyre wear was perfectly fine
@@vincentparenteau6854 I can only imagine what must go through the minds of the developers over at Reiza if they're to watch this review by Mike. He and others often claims the sim isn't realistic enough. Well, the developers went through enormous lengths to try and improve that by bringing us what may be the closest simulation of F1 tire wear of any sim. And instead of recognizing this and changing his driving method, he rushes to make a video criticizing it, after one race, as he clearly wants to benefit from clicks. Watching his driving around Interlagos makes it clear that if he was to ever sit behind the wheel of a F1 car that he'd toast the tires before a lap was completed, and this would be the least of his worries.
So, instead of taking the time to learn how to cope with the demands of this change, he instead is the first to make a video and naturally can't grasp it, so he resorts to criticizing it.
Like they say, you can't teach an old dog new tricks but you can place a keyboard in front of him and watch as he bitches and whines as he fetches for clicks and likes.
Graphically is great, but I just can't seem to get into it drive-wise. I seem to always go back to RF2.
Its too "slidy" and yaw is too much, but this is exactly what they are improving now so fingers crossed it will be good enough!
I can already just hear the diffrence, before the car would squeel on tyres every turn now you can barerly heaer it.
So right now, I've only been using the LMDH cars, so maybe I need to try them. But neither they nor the F1 cars have ABS.
So I'd say tire lockups are a real thing, and I'm sure in real life you can shred a tire through a lockup hence the quality drop. I have done the same thing, after like a couple of laps, one of my front tires is suddenly down like 12%. At le mans, one of the tires lost 60% of its life.
So if anything this game taught me that braking needs to be taken seriously. Maybe it shouldn't be so easy to lock up? But I know you see it on the turns too. Camber and toe can play a part in tire wear as well.
The last thing a sim needs is have a feature removed because the player base hasn't figured it out yet.
Want my old livery back! Also, these are so freaking fast, they smashed me at Suzuka last night - had to go back to F3 lol.
Also, Campaign mode pls Reiza. Sheesh.
Also, these 1:15 laps seem slow. Not a driving criticism, wondering if cars are slower after the update? What percentage is the AI on? I will try Interlagos after work. Far more forgiving than Suzuka.
They really need to add podium cutscenes to this game
Very difficult to want to play this coming from LMU. Did about half lap in the new stock cars and that was it.
Why is that
Same for me. After playing LMU for a month I just cant go back to AMS2. Everything feels off in AMS2.
@@utkarshchaurasia2233 as per the comment above. The physics and meaningful FFB are so far from realistic. In AMS2, the car does not feel connected to the road. You can’t feel the tyres and the way the cars drive is so unrealistic. It’s a shame, but I want super realistic, online competitive racing and this is something AMS2 will never deliver
@@brooksy2622 interesting, I wonder what changes reiza will make to physics in next patch. To me ams 2 and lmu feel similar in some respects
@@utkarshchaurasia2233 If you used rF2 or tried LMU, you would know and feel things much differently.
What are you using for the spotter? When I turn on the spotter in the option menu it never says anything
Do you have the spotter volume up? It’s set to 0 by default
Get Crew Chief application, it's great and works with almost all the sims. Free and super easy to use.
I'm going to use some of those laughs and groans as a ringtone.
The 911 RSR from the GT Classics category feels even more amazing now. Reiza is doing such good work.
i didnt think the gt3 physics had been touched in this recent update ?
I think he means the retro RSR, the one paired with the old Corvette.@@Super123ps
@@hawkeyeguy123
Either way, both those cars were untouched on this update... Placebo effect in action!
1.6 IS GOING TO BE SICK
Oh its so good AMS 2 kills i racing easy with its beautiful Grahics and tire model.
The lack of F1 tracks in this Sim is hurting its popularity.
10% in one racing lap on softs is actually quite normal degredation for modern f1
*sigh* These cars race around 8 seconds slower than they qualify for a reason, Mike. Tyre life is better in AMS2 than it's ever been. You should not ever be able to drive these cars quickly and on the absolute limit in racing conditions with soft tyres on any track but Monacor
@ 1:34 “that’s what she said”
Cars look amazing think I might ditch my ps5 and get a pc
The Halo makes it superhard for me :(
There's an option for a (semi)transparent HALO center that emulates what the driver would see in the real car. It also works for the mesh of the Formula Dirt (iirc). I think it was introduced with the RX cars or even earlier.
EDIT: I think the setting is called "hide HALO stem".
@@XTRMNTR2K wow really? I've been looking for it but haven't found it
@@Br0nzeBar0n Yup, it's definitely there. I'm just not sure off the top of my head if it's located under gameplay options or display options. It's just one of those really nifty things that is unfortunately easy to miss; the only mention of it outside the beta forums was in the changelog when it was introduced, I believe.
@@XTRMNTR2K thank you
Easy fix for this: race in VR. Just like racing F1 in real life, with a VR headset you'd simply tilt your head a couple of degrees to one side or the other, in order to have the halo not obstruct the view. Thankfully AMS2 has the best VR support, so for those interested in the best possible experience, halo interfering with the view is a moot point.
Ams2 is not the best for triples, I don't use Nvidia surround, I use the inbuilt support, but you can't adjust while in the car which is not great. If you use a bezel hider it makes it even more hard because you constantly have to jump out of the race to adjust, then start the race/practice again. Also, no menu navigation using your wheel's hat sucks too. Acc has it implemented pretty good.
Not true, you can set key shortcuts keys to change seating position etc
@@akpanjennings yeah, seating position is much different than screen adjustments... They definitely need to bake some "on track" screen adjustments onto the game.
Hate to break this to you but triple monitor setup is a thing of the past. Once you try racing in VR there's simply no going back, especially in AMS2 where the VR support is second to none. And this at a fraction of the cost and real estate space.
@@Slakass55 I have a quest 3, and run VR as well. But I also understand not all people can run VR and to get more people to play the game you have to compete. I prefer VR with Ams2, but sometimes I want to use the triples for guest.
@@Slakass55 Maybe for you that is true. I use both and understand the differences, neither is the best they are just very diff.
Tyre wear is not good on Formula Ultimate cars, in my opinion. It's too exaggerated.
I find that central pillar of the "Halo" seriously distracting, just can't get on with them at all. Surely they can come up with a safety measure that doesn't compromise visibility?
You can remove it in the settings
in a real life race you are rarely looking forward, you always looking to the apex / next corner, so you wont even notice it in real life, but in a game where your head doesnt move, yes it is distracting
in real life and in VR you don't notice it as it "blends in" when your looking foreword and in sims you can make it transparent
I don't get it...Reiza constantly updates & improves but they're always a work in progress? I-racing has the crappiest tyre model & 2009 physics, 2005 visuals with minimal updates while charging a fortune & no one criticises? God help us, is sim racing nothing more than nerds saluting the rambling nonsense of Jimmy bloody Broadbent? Strange community indeed....