Let me reiterate; IM NOT SAYING SEKIRO IS A BAD GAME OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN A SOULS GAME. It’s a fantastic game in its own right but I think some adjustments could have been easily made to make it even better.
Could we get some more reasoning for the Unseen Aid thing? You kinda just said it should start low and have the ability to upgrade it. Why? Personally I think the 30% is almost perfect (should be 33% for the actual 1/3 chance), because it shouldn't be something you really on. Having it be a nice surprise seems exactly the point. Whereas having it much higher than that makes the revivals unbalanced, as you can just press die and have a fair chance of receiving Aid. Whereas otherwise you would revive to risk beating the fight, or try to flee. If you do die, having Unseen Aid proc is indeed a really nice surprise, but if it just happened regularly then the point of the system is nullified. May as well just bring back corpse runs, which I do honestly miss and think could really enhance the gameplay.
100% agree. Here's hoping they use the black mortal blade lure / black scroll description for a DLC to descend into the underworld or something like that 😁
I agree with a good bit of it but it doesn't come down to levelling up IMO, it's just that the skills are poorly balanced and that maybe it's a little too simplistic with only the one weapon. Because if you *do* mess around with the various skills and tools, they are incredibly powerful at the right time. The upgraded praying strikes gives you an incredibly fast and spammable attack against a lot of enemies, essentially stunlocking them, it's just that you can parry yourself out of most problems anyway. High Monk is my fave move but even that pales in front of the universal win-button that's Ichimonji Double since you can couple it with aerial combat arts and steamroll 90% of enemies and bosses because you can jump on them. And yes, most of the end-game skills are pretty trash too. I think Fromsoft missed a good opportunity to make some of the skills delete enemy HP instead, which could lead to a change in playstyle. Lack of lightning for both you and enemies is a bit of a shame and it could have been interesting to switch between all 4 different "elements" (mortal blade, Genichiro's blade, lightning blade and regular sword), even if you couldn't get new weapons. The tools are a fairly similar story. If used correctly they can turn any enemy into a joke, bosses included, but the absurd upgrade process with having to upgrade multiple tools to get to the one you want makes this difficult. On top of that the final upgrades are actually kinda bad for most of them, similar to the final combat arts, making it even sillier that you have to spend tons of resources to learn this. It's not true that Dark Souls has less re-used assets, though, it actually has the most in the entire series if you go beyond bosses. Yeah, the bosses aren't *that* bad compared to some later entries but you do fight 3x tutorial demon, 2x hydra and 3x Kirk (not technically a boss but come on), on top of Taurus, Gargoyles and Capra being normal enemies later.
Your not saying it should have been a soul's game but the whole video is sekiro didnt have this from soul's or that from blood bourne. Your speaking with two tongues..
Need to point out a mistake regarding Kuro's charm: You already have it by default (without being able to see it in your inventory) in your first playthrough; you benefit from its effects, such as not taking chip damage while blocking, already. Having the charm is your basic state while playing the game. New game plus introduces the item formally and allows you to give it up, making the game harder.
This. also if you start up a completely new save file you will be able to hand over kuro's charm from the start. prob need another save with the game beat present on your system though.
@@lennic If you enjoy the game, it's well worth to try a new run without the charm. Just finished such a run myself and I must say it was challenging and fun. Definitely added a few more hours of gameplay for me!
Let's be fair to DS1, the demons being reused in the game made complete sense from a lore point of view and the game is much much older than sekiro is. It could have been related to hardware restraints.
I'd say dark souls 3 is the most polished game in the series, but I don't think its the best one, by far not... It may be subjective but re using assets means you could focus development time/cost on something else, it's a tradeoff
Dark Souls has the least new assets of any game in the series, it's the one thing that really disappointed me about the game when I learned about DeS. Many of the basic enemies are ripped straight from DeS as well, moveset and all, they just got a new coat of paint (skellies and hollows are the most obvious). And yes, the 3 tutorial demons - which were *also* the tutorial demon in DeS - are a bit much.
I wouldn't mind having some different outfits and attires as rewards. It wouldn't have to change your stats, or just change it slightly maybe, but the core gameplay does not need to be affected by Sekiro having some fashion.
thankfully for pc there are atleast mods you can basicly reward yourself with after beating the ng+0, replacing your character with other models from the game.
Dark Souls 1 reuses the Asylum Demon model 3 times, but only reuses the actual fight twice. The Stray Demon variant has a completely different moveset. The Demon Firesage, which has an identical moveset to the Asylum Demon, at least does fire damage now. These distinctions are important, because Sekiro doesn't really have them. It has the 3 land Headless and two underwater Headless. It features the Blazing Bull twice, the Schichimen Warrior 3 times, the Guardian Ape twice, Corrupted Monk two times, the Chained Ogre 3 times, General Samurai 3-4 times, Ashina Elite twice, the Lone Shadow Swordman/poison bros 3 times and probably others i've failed to mention. Dark Souls 1 in comparison to Sekiro, hardly reuses bossfights at all. Also, Sekiro does something similar but ultimately different to Dark Souls. In Dark Souls, bosses would later turn into regular enemies to show how far you've come. In Sekiro, regular enemies will occasionally stand in as bosses.
@@RevMirrane They are called Mini-bosses, but they are effectively bosses. They have much larger healthbar-posture bars than the regular enemies, require multiple deathblows, drop valuable items, do not respawn, and will often trap you in their area. They may be called 'mini-bosses' because they have no story significance and don't necessarily forward the plot, but a lot of the mini-bosses are harder than some of the main bosses. Some of them, the only way to tell that they're bosses is the introductory cutscene, as well them dropping a memory. That's it. Effectively, they're still bosses.
This is actually my biggest problem with from software lately, it's just how quick the games are getting it's not what I liked about Dark souls, it was a slow follicle thing... a ebenflow if you would, in Sekrio I find myself spamming my block button and waiting for a symbol to pop on my head that i jump over or Merkie counter. Gone are the days of playing a knight with giant shield and slowly learning the game in a comfortable pace... gotta be that pro streamer that uses a broken straight sword no shield no armour :(
You can play as a lizard. Or Emma. Or probably doom guy fuck I dunno. But yes mods do exist for sekiro. Good reason to pimp out your pc actually. I put in about 300 cad to get mine good enough to play sekiro at 60 FPS 1080 p with no issues. Now I can play thousands of games on pc that I was currently cock blocked by my ps4 pro. I’m sure If you knew what you were doing you could do it even cheaper as sekiro was running on low settings perfectly fine before I upgraded the gpu and cpu etc.
To me. Sekiro is just the best ninja game I've ever played. No more, no less. It's the Ninja Scroll game I've always wanted. Meaning. I didn't go into the game thinking. 'I hope it's just like BB'
Yeah but I wish your character could actually look like a ninja, like the black mask and black ninja shirt and pants, gloves , boots etc... Really sucks you wear the same orange hobo robes the entire game even into ng+... Etc... If they would of added any cosmetic option even just some masks, would of been way better imo.
Hey man I found your channel recently and just leaving this here because I know you read the comments, really love your lore videos on the fromsoft games and looking forward to you coming back with more content :)
I knew from the start that this wasn't gonna be like a normal souls game and treated it like any other regular story based singleplayer game. And I really enjoyed it! Sekiro is a fantastically crafted game with really fun combat and an interesting world, spiced up by Fromsofts amazing character/monster design. In the end I do prefer DS/BB more because I just enjoy RPG elements a lot, but Sekiro stands out very well on it's own. It might not be my most replayed Fromsoft game, but I cherish the time I spent with it.
I agree to a certain extent with your gripes with the game but also think that a lot of these are "issues" simply because the game isn't an RPG but an adventure game instead and things aren't certain way because of lore and how "it should be". I'll like just for the sake of behelit anyway.
Maybe you don't play action game that much to see that it is not genre problem. Sekiro progression and stealth is very poor compared to popular action games
@Jacob Jaywant comparing sekiro to dmc would be so unfair since it s an extremely high standard, but yeah compared to real hack m slash, sekiro combat is not that special
@@raeluncl2693 i don't see why the progression system is poor, you have many item, each have unique useage for certain situation and skill progression. It certainly not to the level of dmc but to say it poor for an action game seem to me like u only use some item, not all of the to the full extent.
I would sell a kidney for that mechanic. Mid Fight I pull out the ace up my sleeve, and die. Because I forgot I’m out of revive charges. 10/10, would try again though
I feel like ur judging Sekiro too much as if it were a souls game and that it’s not meeting the “souls quota” but From Soft stated many times that they wanted to push away from their previous titles and make something completely fresh and new. While I agree with some of your points, I feel your trying too hard to put the souls formula in a non souls game.
CCrumpits It isn’t completely fresh and new, that’s the thing. It has a lot of aspects from a Souls game still in it and I think that’s throwing people off. Bonfires are Sculpture’s Idols, Estus flasks are healing gourds, Firelink is Dilapidated temple, enemies respawn when you rest, estus shards are gourd seeds, you lose xp when you die, going hollow is like dragon rot, NPC’s are similar in both games, there’s interconnectivity/shortcuts, games can be very challenging and cryptic, etc. Looking at all these, I honestly can’t blame people for thinking this is a souls-like game when it really isn’t. That’s a mistake I made and it took me a while to accept that it wasn’t and finally “git gud” at the game and enjoy it for what it is.
Petko Fuchalksi It isn’t made by the same company though. It’s easier for people to think Sekiro is a souls-like game for all of the reasons stated and because of the dev being FromSoft
Petko Fuchalksi Not everyone follows what devs say lol. The average gamer probably saw it was made by FromSoftware and just assumed it was gonna be a Souls-like game. Yeah they should’ve done more research, but you really don’t realize it until you start to get into the game some more
Fuucckk remember the arkham games where when stealth take downs cause the enemy to become more a more scared, they could've totally something similar and that in of itself could tie in with the shura ending
I think I agree with all your main points. A few things felt too nitpicky. Like the Guyobo spear thing. The things I agree the most with are the dragonrot gripes and the fact that most shinobi skills are too expensive and come too late to be of any use.
Lack of replay value outside of alternative endings does suck but if that's what had to be sacrificed to give us combat that completely outshines Souls, then I'll take it. It's great to see Fromsoft make a game with a higher skill ceiling and (finally) with something to it outside of "dodge, poke, dodge poke etc".
@@videogamesaintnofunnomore5997 theres also jumping an mikiri, so thats 3 options you have to deal with enemy attacks. 4 if you count blocking and deflecting as different things
@@videogamesaintnofunnomore5997 comparing the parry in souls and bb to sekiro is laughable. try a different argument cuz your losing that one. you have to also jump, dodge, block, attack, nikiri, listen to enemy parries, sneak in, sneak kill and so on. what can you do in souls? wait for an enemy animation to finish then press R1, maybe dodge if you want (strafing works for most games ROFL) and maaaybe parry. which again, is laughable compared to sekiro.
@LeadFaun nikiri counter, sneak in and out, sneak kill, ledge kills air kills and grapple. oh! i forgot about diving and underwater combat. but sure keep convincing yourself that soulsborne combat is anywhere near as complex as sekiros.
BigBosta1969 So the series has gone from dodge poke to block, parry yeah the combat has come such as Looonnggg way xD for me the best combat series was DS3 BB and the weapon arts makes using them much more fun than simply block, tap parry rinse repeat. Yawn.....
Only thing I would disagree with is reusing assets. Not that that isn't true, but saying that DS1 didn't really suffer in this way is blatantly false. There are 2 reskins of the first boss (one below him, then the fire version). Also, the Capra demon and Taurus Demon just become normal enemies once you get past Quelagg's domain. From has always had this problem and DS1 is not exempt from it by a longshot. I agree with the lack of differing playstyles that you hinted/talked about. I wanted to switch to spear as a main wep, rejecting my traditional shinobi training, but nope. Also, why is this no real counter to grabs? Thrust has the mikiri counter/deflect, attacks have deflect/block, why am I so powerful and skilled but I can't find a way to not get grabbed? Makes no sense to me. Great video overall though.
@@0816M3RC Ya, I'm aware you can evade grabs. I'm talking about an actual counter of some sorts. Thrust has mikiri, but grabs should have an actual counter as well. Something like I counter-grab them when well timed. Minor gripe at the end of the day.
For me it's seeing that footage of that guy completely dodging the Caged Ogre but yet he is still dragged into his open palms is complete an utter bs. It's a good game, but that does irk me.
Mitch please come back. I've been binging your old bloodbourne lore videos. I really like listening to your take on games even if I disagree sometimes.
@@mitchl6896 that is awesome to hear. Hope your doing well and staying safe during these crazy times. And thank you for all the great content you've provided us with.... 👍
Yea the prosthetic was disappointing in the way that I never use any more while fighting bosses and only use them for fun in the way I take care of grinding
Yeah.. gotta say.. most of his complaints were kind of... dumb... It was like he was expecting another dark souls... and too be honest it seems to be he really didn't make use of the prostetics as he should have... @J P
hahaha... Yea she still has a lot to learn... But her noobiness amuses me :D For some reason watching a pro play is less fun... at least for me :D That's why I also watch Afrosenju's playthrough... not sure if you know him.. but I think this game might break that guy.. @@voiceofamos
I have a theory about XP in Sekiro. I believe Activision intended to sell XB boost microtransactions, until the whole loot box controversy with Shadow of Mordor and SW BF2 happened.
I also had a bit of a problem in my first playthrough of sekiro, I've notice that there was input lag on the controls. Made things a bit more difficult than it should of.
I finished the game 8 times within a week and a half (95 hours playtime+ plat) some of his points are valid some of them not really... I actually was never more excited to jump into NG+ ever before...
@@StardustCrusader18 Nothing was new in NG+ in Souls game in the first place. "Yay! the rings have a "+1" on their names, and there's some extra ennemies for artificial difficulty!"
@@TheAskald and that's a problem in previous games too, that others games have this problem does not mean that sekiro should not try to solve it at least
Thank you as always for you content! Nightjar Slash helps me shred both Owl fights and the Shuriken with Chasing Slice is indispensable for closing the gap during the approach of each encounter.
One thing that always annoyed me was how Wolf always seems to lose his balance after being hit (even by the most trivial of enemies) causing you to either hold block to catch yourself, or fall and use the safety roll... This happens so much that it made me wonder why there's even a posture meter at all for your character? I'm beginning to think Wolf has a severe inner-ear infection with as much as he has trouble keeping his footing.
@@KismetWolf i certainly did beat a few bosses without getting hit. Not all of course but now knowing a couple more things. It's not impossible. At the end of my playthrough I found a channel that could help you out a lot it you wish to win at all costs. It's called Tyrannicon
I totally agree with you on the bosses should drop more then just a memory it would have been so cool to receive prosthetic tools or a combat art related to the boss like for example: Gyoubu's spear,The way of Tomoe,or Isshin's glock.
I think Matthewmatosis summed it up best when he said 'I don't judge my enjoyment of the game based on how much stuff I've got in my inventory. I judge it by the things happening to me.'
i pretty much agree with everything said here but i want to point something out about the NPC sidequests. i agree that the rewards for most of them are really underwhelming, but i think a few of them are the most interesting NPC story progression fromsoft has ever done. stuff like potentially sending an innocent person to become a bizarre medical experiment, the pot noble turning into a fish, the lady at fountainhead murdering all the nobles, the big fish dying and showing up at the ape boss arena, etc. these are all insanely cool to discover the first time around even though the rewards arent great.
Sekiro side quests are not interesting nor as impactful as any of the Dark Souls or Bloodborne series. Remember getting the umbilical fragment in BB and the scene of her giving birth and how this impacted the ending? Remember Siegwart of Catarina in DS3 and how doing hs side quest gave you an important upgrade material and changed the flow of a boss fight? None of Sekiro side characters had the same weight ... so I don't know where you're getting you opinion from.
I totally agree. I happened upon the big fish at the guardian ape location as well, and it was so damn cool. The only complaint I really have about Sekiro is no unlockable outfits, or versions of his Katana. Everything else to me is perfect.
I wouldn't characterize most of these as issues, rather than drawbacks relative to the souls series. As a standalone game, it is excellent. EDIT: Also, this video could be way more refined and organized than it is.
Mist raven is really good for creating an opening on really spammy bosses to get that initial chunk of health damage you need for them to start accumulating poise damage. I also found myself using it frequently to ensure I could get the last bit off the last health bar done as all bosses get extra spammy at that point
It always annoys me when people complain about Sekiro not having multiplayer. It's a story based action adventure game, not an open rpg. I could understand if we created our own characters, but we don't. And can you imagine how difficult it would be to balance? You'd probably just have one shot builds running around with yashi-however-it's-spelt sugars, the firecracker, and the spiral spear. Or you'd just get your revives burnt up in a difficult area. Or someone just applying the burn status to you and going to town. It simply wouldn't work.
@Jacob Jaywant think half of these are very opinionated, and again no reasoning for them, just a list. "Bad story," is verrryyy subjective, and Sekiro is the first of From's games to have an outright story in this fashion. What does, "lack of creative features," mean? Sekiro literally has the most innovative gameplay out of the series. I do personally think the npc questlines weren't as good this time around, though wouldn't call them bad, there's certainly plenty of great dialogue in them though. The recycled areas thing is kinda mute, as the castle, outskirts, estate are all reused but also redesigned. They've done that before in their games, (Bloodborne changed enemy designs greatly depending on certain things). The rest is very subjective. The music that we did get was largely good, but we could definitely have more. I think the complaints that a lot of people have are very lackluster, and not deeply thought out. In the end you have to remember that Sekiro, (as the other games), is a piece of art, not just a commercial product. The designers had a vision, and stuck to it. For this they should be praised. Constructive criticism is always welcome, but simple opinions are generally not even considered.
Love the game, but my complaints are: - Camera can get you killed if you get pinned against a wall or if it automatically unlocks off of an enemy - Some skills and shinobi prosthetic upgrades are useless, e.g sen throw, butterfly kunai, divine abduction upgrades, lazulite - frame rates dip often - Input delay for blocking, so parrying must be timed slightly early rather than at the moment of the attack, which is sometimes hard to pull off, as doing it too early by even the slightest margin will result in blocking and getting posture destroyed, or too late and you will get hit and possibly die (combined with frame rate dips and ng+ and it becomes frustrating to deal with)
-Camera issues are nothing new to fromsoft games, but they are really bad in some cases here. Those "Lone Shadow Longswordsman"-types in their tiny rooms are awful, because they often push you to the wall where the camera stops working. Worse than capra demon^^ - Not useless but too specific. For some (spear, axe) there are less than 10 enemies in the game that actually have a weakness to those. - Framerate problems? Console user, huh? - This is not input delay. This little feature is called inertia. Movements don't happen instantaneously, but start by accelerateing a part of your body. So if you want to be on time for blocking you have to start your move BEFORE the hit arrives, not when you are already beeing hit.
@@mathis8210 I get what you mean, but I have tested this many times. I press the left bumper and the character starts moving after a delay. I know this because when you block you hear a click sound from your character raising your sword, which is delayed after I press the button. Perhaps it could be a performance issue for console if others don't experience it
@@rebingo1040 No, that click happens when the sword is in position and braced to block an attack. Sekiro has to move the sword to that position, hence the delay between pushing the button and hearing the click.
@StrikeHolesType oh yeah for sure it's immersive, I don't disagree with that at all. It's good music but just in my opinion it's not nearly as memorable as past from games.
Yeah I've not finished it yet and I consider myself an UUUBER hardcore Dark Souls and From fan in general but this game just lacks that "something" that all the Souls games and even Bloodborne has. I really feel like they went over the top on the difficulty by not giving you NEARLY the variation of play styles that Dark Souls did and this is coming from a guy that beat Dark Souls through NG7 and even beat it from start to finish as a Level 1. This game just doesn't even seem fair sometimes or it doesn't seem to know what kind of game it wants to be. It gives you the option of stealth but then will place enemies where stealth is almost impossible as an option but it's also equally impossible to go in there and get totally ganked. It just seems really unbalanced. I'm at the last boss but I can really say that I've found the game just far more frustrating as opposed to rewarding. Whereas in Dark Souls the frustration seems "worth it" in the end but in this game I really just feel like I want to just "beat it to say I beat it". Maybe it's just me.
@@SimpleManGuitars1973 I felt the same as you about the difficulty, but it really melts away after the 3rd or 4th playthrough. The final boss took me around 40-60 tries 1st run, then 18, then 1. The adaptation to Sekiro gameplay takes longer than you may think (and I also went to NG7 in DS1 and 3. I mean NG33 and NG14 but it stops at 7)
@@TheAskald Yeah I can honestly say that I really don't feel like I'm truly that much "better" at the game now than when I first started playing it. It's just such a vast departure for a Souls fan. I think non Souls fans might love this system and hate the Souls one honestly.
Most videos that criticise Sekiro have long dislike bars no matter the content so don't worry dude, still a good video. NG+ is indeed lame, no unlocks, and nothing really new to discover except unlocking endings and special techniques from those endings, but that's at the end. I think the XP thing is Activision's doing tbh. The grind in this game and no unlockables are sucking all the fun out of NG+ and the one combat art I was looking forward to got nerfed. Most of the combat arts just outright suck or are really ineffecient, it's actually better that you don't use them most of the time, as they even use spirit emblems, and you could have used a prosth and cut off a larger portion of the boss' HP and posture instead of a combat art. It was the only thing I was working toward, and now that it's gone, there's only the grind, and well...fuck that. At least in Dark SOuls I could try my hand at Magic or try out some weapons or whatever, mix and match and see what I can work, none of that in Sekiro. I'm 3/4 way through NG+ and I just have no desire to continue on, except maybe to kill Owl in the past because I missed that.
Not everything has to be about rewards or achievements. I rellay like this game because the skill ceiling in this game is really high. I am at the end on NG+ and still think there is alot of room for me to improve.
@@TheBangooman I do lol. My ng+5 is using bell demon and no Kuro's charm. On sword saint rn and had an absolute blast. Hyped to down him and go back through for some of my fav fights again-- and I still have a lot of room for improvement for my speed and efficiency in encounters.
The two games that Sekiro made me think of the most were Way of the Samurai and Nioh. Nioh being set with nearly the exact same setting, when playing Sekiro im forced to think of all the strategy in Niohos fights vs Sekiros straight forward posture system. And i'd love to see From do a Way of the Samurai, with its stance and fighting styles, paired with its inherently whimsical nature and story telling.
@@0816M3RC Did it now? I never took that as as proverbial gospel but only as a strategy. And I dont even think I even fought many bosses that way either, guess it wasnt my play style.
My biggest disappointment on subsequent playthroughs is the lack of main weapon swapping like gaining the mortal blade but essentially just being another normal sword when it should've done more from a gameplay perspective but eh I've found the game engrossing in its own way that is appreciative
Most of your complaints are, "Why isn't this an RPG?" Probably because it isn't an RPG. Why can't I respec stats? Because it isn't an RPG. Why can't I change weapons and armor and skills into another class? Because it isn't an RPG. Why doesn't new game plus give better rewards? Because it isn't an RPG. Why no covenants? Because it isn't an RPG. Have you never played a game that isn't Soulsborne? It's not darksouls, get over it. And that's not even getting into the factual inaccuracies.
Shitty stealth mechanic and AI is not a RPG game issues, having 2 or 3 useful arts out of a dozen of points is not a RPG game issue, useless prosthetic is not RPG issue. Sekiro's progression is very poor if you compare it to action focused games like DMC or God of War.
I don't think infinitness of playing this game is not a very fair criticism. Though I do utterly agree that the prosthetic is extremely underutilised. It feels like the game wants to be too controlled in terms of what you can do, I do like the focus on one weapon combat, given how much more complex it is. But they limit the use of it immensely, allow you to change it constantly, and it just keeps you entirely uncommited to anything. I think they could have easily fixed the problems by making the Prosthetic more core to the moveset, you could only have a limited nuber of the ones you are likely to have found, have them be more or less unlimited use based and have more of them and hidden more and locked behind fight that sort of thing. Also, I disagree on the lore being gone, there is still a lot of lore story telling from items, in a weridly archaic way though, notes intead of equipment, nigh useless consumable items with descriptions hinting at things atc.
Blood Machine Blood Machine Spot on description about prosthetics. I have over a thousand Spirit Emblems in my bank and I’d like to use them more but even with the talents that increase the amount you can hold, I always felt weary about using a prosthetic charge, especially when some of the useful ones cost a whopping 3 emblems. But I just wanted to say you described it best in terms of giving you so many options you can change on the fly, yet by severely hampering your freedom to use them when you’d like, you do feel entirely non-committal to any of them. I don’t know what the right fix would be, since everyone plays differently, and making them unlimited uses would obviously break most encounters. I guess we can only thank From for trying something new even if it didn’t quite pan out well overall.
Honestly great video. There's been so much praise for this game (rightfully so), but it's refreshing to hear some legitimate criticism. Keep it up Mitch!
Floppy Dolphinn good point. I love the game but it had issues. This made me really consider just how flawed some of the elements were. Like prosthetics was a great idea but I only really used firecrackers, and shining arts were very underwhelming. The overall combat system and boss quality compensated for that but there were more issues than I realized. I can also see the replayability being worse than other dark souls games because there’s really only one way to play the game other than the multiple endings
you are missing a critical point: this is a single player game, all the variety coming from going into ng+ here is not present since it was not builded for this purpose. Everything is designed for you to have an amazing immersive campaign, and they nailed it on so many aspects: the prosthetic tools are all useful and you can have access to them whenever the situation require to do so by just pausing the game, it is a very simplistic way to do it: "you see this enemy? choose which prosthetic you think it might works against him, knowing there is one or two that are more effective than the others" and you have concrete results. The rewards of the npc although they are shallow they are perfectly fitted in the story and the lore the game is trying to tell you, you don't expect from Hanbei, an immortal soldier survivor from the war against the Interior Ministers, to give you a valuable artifact or some sort or Dogen, a brillian apprentice of a genius doctor, relegate within a rotten dungeon to give you something special and yada...The combat arts works in the same way of the spells in DS once you become stronger you are not going to use the weak soul arrow right? but you are going for souls or crystal soul spear; same here, once you have mastered later arts you are not going to use whilwind or nightjar slash (although considering the wind-up of some arts you might want to use some basic arts since they are quicker). Soundtrack is, again, fitted so well in the context of the game, you have traditional instruments like the shamisen, koto and shakuhachi mixed togheter to build that sense of historical environment that game want you to feel, they are as vocal or choral as DS or BB for the simple fact that you are not fighting against blood thristy creatures ready to ripped you apart, you are "dancing" against shinobi or ninja or animals; the music is designed to bring rhytm to the fight, with fast tempo and slow and malinconic when is necessary (the Divine Dragon). The repetition of the mini-bosses is justified because they are part of a clan but still maintain a proper identity (lone hunter, Ashina Elite, Seven Spears....) the only one that I can't defend is the second Drunkard in Mibu Village, the fake Corrupted Monk (I get that she was guarding the palanquin that leads to the Fountainhead Palace but she has the same moveset as the real one, bad choice From) and the second Ape encounter (not the boss itself, but the transition of him between the lake and his den and the identical moveset; they could have added something like grappling points to spice things up or new animation like him climbing the wall or some sort). I was personally satisfied with this title, if you are not a fan of japanese historical settings you are not going to find anything memorable here, aside from the combat system of course. For people like myself and other that have studied this wonderful opera because wanted to figure it out what Miyazaki have tried to communicate us, we have found something special. Perhalps because of its niche cinese-japanese rooted narration, Sekiro is not meant for everyone but I'm glad nowadays where everything is either online, battle royal or filled with microtransactions, finding a pearl like this is truly remarkable. The game has flaws, many things could have been implemented or modified but because From always respects its deadlines the final product feels a little bit rushed at the end, but I would never have traided Sekiro with DS4 or BB2. Miyazaki gives his best on new IPs and not sequel (right DS3?) and although I would love to have a Sekiro sequel I'm looking forward to new Dlc or From's new title. There is few software houses like From that keeps innovating their games and we want to support them as much as possible because they deserve it.
You can't have the memories give different attack increases, because people would then just ignore areas and go back with more attack power. The difficulty of a lot of the bosses is relative. I beat Owl my first try, and Owl (Father) on my third, but know friends who've spent days on it. Whereas for some gods forsaken reason the Corrupted Monk had me stumped for days. I refused to do the potential stealth death blows, and thus it took me three days to beat it. There's also player experience to take into account, as new players could struggle with bosses such as Gyoubu, where returning players starting new saves would stomp him (or other bosses). You can't balance an attack power reward on subjective difficulty. The way to balance it would be to do the normal attack increase, then have the boss also drop other valuables, or more experience (which they already do).
NordicOnur Honca I've played all the souls games for hundreds of hours each, by the time I'd gotten up to Owl I was on a second save because I screwed up stuff in my first. I hadn't fought him before or seen him in vids. Got hit by the debuff once and just went on the defensive. He's not that difficult man, had a heal and a pellet left at the end of the fight. Was using the mist raven so if I did get hit I'd still get damage out. He's not all that difficult man. The hirata owl is insane tho. I see no reason why it's "impossible" other than subjective difficulty.
Harry Lime. Depends on the person. I did senpou before intended, hadn't even stepped foot in the inside of the castle yet. Just found the entrance of to the side and found the area cool so I did it. Ignored the castle when I found it and went to sunken valley because I found the enemies easier and (I think) they give more experience.
Don't like the rinse and repeat approach to bosses...They took a long time to make this game and they recycle environments and bosses way too much.. The combat system gets old after awhile and the fun is lost.. 8/10 score for me....
@@aredhanush2300 DS bosses are not repetitive if you've ever gotten past Taurus Demon. Each boss has it's cancer. Sekiro's combat is orgasmic though, I would sell my soul for a sequel.
My gripes are: Ashina Castle gets reused 2.5 times, Minibosses are not unique at all, with them being reused very often, and the English voice acting was trash. Prosthetics like the Mist Raven were really useless, firecrackers were too OP, and most combat arts are objectively worse than stuff like Ichimonji Double. Overall, 9/10 game. The combat and the main story bosses are all really fucking orgasmic.
Numbers can never replace pure mechanics. The games that stand the test of time and become infinitely replayable (Ninja Gaiden Black, Vanquish, for ex.) are because of mechanical diversity, tight control scheme, UI layouts, dynamic combat and unparalleled gameplay depth. When it comes to gear, levels and build loadouts, there's always a limit. I'm glad FROM diverged from their previous "replayable because of different numbers" philosophy, but the real issue is that Miyazaki's team don't have any experience with making infinitely replayable games in the action genre, unlike, say, Team NINJA. Sekiro would have increased its replay value with build diversity, but only for a limited time. What Sekiro really needed was more gameplay depth, and a higher Player V. Enemy dynamic.
Finally, someone else who gets it! Build diversity in Bloodborne and Souls is cosmetic, it's artificial, it doesn't _actually_ do anything to change the gameplay. Whether you're a greatsword user or a spell caster, you dodge, attack, repeat, without much variation. At first glance Sekiro's combat looks more samey but it's actually much more varied because of how much freedom the devs had to mess with the timings for attacking and deflecting for different enemies. Still wouldve been nice if there was more depth to the combat though, its fun but it feels like its missing something. If they had made it so your sword moveset changed based on what prosthetic you had equipped or something like that, it couldve been really cool.
Few RPGs and action games stand that test of time, but they don't always have to be games that you can play over and over. A game that can be experienced and then remembered is also perfectly fine. Sekiro will be a game I'll recommend to people who would be into these kinds of games years down the line. Dark Souls is the same in that regard. These games are still remembered, even though the PVP eventually dies down and the game feels mostly the same even with different builds, self-imposed challenges and what not. In that sense they can stand the test of time the way a good book or movie would.
@@Goudhaantje1993 While you bring up a good point, one I failed to mention, I have to say that it's not the same remembering a game in 20 years time and going back to play the game in 20 years and have it still hold up in its market. It is true that a game can be timeless in how memorable it is, or how it impacted the game industry; a game like Baldur's Gate being a good example. But, video games are not movies or books. They are inherently interactive, and it speaks volumes when you play a 20 year old game and say "yeah, it was better when I played it 20 years ago" as opposed to saying "Wow! This game is still great" When a game takes advantage of the qualities unique to its medium and pushes boundaries, the game will become memorable through an unrivaled gameplay experience, which can only be done by a video game. I thank you for bringing up memorability as a quality in gaming.
You already have XP pouches in the shape of Skill Points. You get to the threshold, you got certain amount of XP "locked". Souls in the Souls games were different because they were used for everything and you needed that XP to increase stats, here you don't. You just pick the skill you are interested to, they are useful but they are not really necessary at all.
lokasocba don't know why I completely forgot about the skill points... yeah pouches are kinda dumb. Just play conservative if you're near a skill point I guess. Thanks for reminding me of that xD
you obviously haven't hit late game xp. I have to get 50000 XP for one level(by the final skill point I'll be at 80k) now a boss in New Game plus get you around 10-20k where some farming spots get 6K... See the problem? Fight 5-3 boss where I have a chance of losing all my XP or do a farming strategy that will get more than that amount of XP in an hour.... All XP purchase will do is lower the amount of framing needed to be done...
I love the music in this game actually. First time entering Mt. Kongo, seeing how colorful and radically different it looked compared to anything From has done PLUS music that was truly beautiful and serine.. I knew right then this game is god damn incredible. Same reaction entering Fountainhead. It’s subtle moments like that, that make this game very special to me.
FYI about the only 15% increase atk with the sugar , it okey because it stacks, Try Sugar + Devine confeti + the Bestowal Ninjutsu ninjutsu (allows you to deal cheap hp damage on enemies blocks) on a mob before a mini boss. there also resistances in this game and it says so out right in the Demon Bell description. The more atk power you have the more resistance you have to posture damage and you do mo posture damage to enemies ofc . with all of those 3 buffs and good deflects the corrupted monk went down in like 40 sec without the snap seed, fire cracker or fistful of ash cheese.
I agree for the most part. I was really bummed about the lack of weapons and overall customization that was in the SoulsBorne series. More so on the weapons aspect because I felt that Nioh was a direct response to SoulsBorne and I thought they would respond in kind. Sekiro has nice combat but it feels like it could've been more.
definitely agree. I am simply going into the new game pluses to grind up skill levels to get that achieve. At this point I can kill all the enemies in 1 or 2 tries but there is no purpose to continue playing. the skill lvl grinding is taking forever
Hope this gets a lot of views! :) I feel like we all bought this game because we believed in From Soft, and hoped that any game they put out was going to be god-like. I definitely enjoyed the game, but I feel like I hate the game twice as much. Largely because of the lack of multiplayer or reason to keep playing, and partly because some bosses were just too difficult. The game was 5 parts struggle, 1 part reward. I feel like the other games are more balanced with regards to struggle/reward. Especially with the ability to help along players or be helped along as needed.
I disagree with some of your points...for instance the boss memory thing. difficulty is subjective a lot of the time what one person struggles with another can breeze through. Having the same reward across all keeps it fair despite people struggling with different things.
Fair point. However I don't think anyone would complain if beating Genichiro yielded a stronger boss memory reward then beating Gyoubu for example. Genichiro is a stronger opponent and he has more phases. It is kinda odd that every memory is the same in terms of power regardless of who I beat.
@@asiamatron i actually struggled with Gyoubu far more. obviously it had to do with me still trying to play it like a souls game and dodge everything but the point remains i died to him like 7 times. Genichiro on the other hand only twice.
True, I didn't struggle too much with Gyoubu. Bosses I did struggle with were Genirchiro, Headless(I still struggle with that bitch), and Isshin the Sword Saint.
Sekiro's world is great. But it's less developed overall (at least what's presented to the player), and more focused and grounded on a specific time and place. So that sense of everlasting mystery in Dark Souls isn't as present. There is mystery about things like the Dragon Rot, the centipedes, etc. But it's nowhere near as deep and broad as the Souls games which pull from a greater variety of sources. And the basic setting of Souls which is multiple worlds and time overlapping and merging. Sekiro is very specific in its time and place. The combat too is less broad than Souls' with the lack of gear/armor builds. But it's also deeper and more focused, and significantly more engaging. It feels far better to just play it. It's more fun combat by far. And the reality though is the weapon-based movesets of Souls is present. It's just in the prosthetic and skills. So visually there's a less overall variety. But the different kinds of approach to combat are there to some extent. You can do playthroughs of different prosethics and skills/styles if you like. No it's not necessary. But it's not necessary in Souls either. You can go through Souls with just a longsword too if you like. Just dodge-rolling, occasionally blocking/parrying and R1 spamming otherwise. You don't need to use heavy attacks or even the very fun addition of weapon arts from DS3 (which was perhaps an early move towards Sekiro combat). Playing through Sekiro is only simplistic if you don't focus on using the different tools and skills, the same way playing through Souls again is simplistic if you keep just R1ing a longsword for every playthrough. There's no magic. I don't feel that's a huge loss, but I never really played any casters in Souls. Casting from afar isn't as fun imo as melee combat, so it's absence from Sekiro is no knock against it for me. But I understand others do enjoy casting it and miss it, and that's a bummer for them. But, it's a game about a ninja swordsman with a robot arm. It's overall more focused and specific. Some of the mechanics like Dragon Rot feel underbaked. Or perhaps they pulled back from having it hugely influence the game because it was difficult to balance. Understandable when it's basically a mechanic that could kill off helpful NPCs for players. A compounding problem for struggling players. Imagine the crying from game media clowns about difficulty if some their Sekiro playthrough NPCs actually croaked. They already were whiny and entitled as it was. Actually, who cares about them. Forget them. Leave them to their entitled whines. Imagine just everyday players who may be struggling and then it gets compounded by NPCs dying off and they then struggle to find helpful items to buy (or even more necessary ones that are on some NPCs). Anyway, it's a cool idea for a mechanic that could definitely use more development. But I'm guessing it's real tough to find a good balance for it. Stealth as well is very dated. It's like playing a stealth game from 20 years ago in some instances. But tuning stealth for modern games is a lot of work for purely stealth focused games. Making NPCs behave in not completely stupid ways takes a lot of time and resources. Sekiro is primarily an action-combat RPGlite, boss battler (not a real term, I know). Tuning a well-developed stealth system where NPCs have memories and scour the levels for you would be resource-intensive. So yeah the stealth is almost laughably shallow a lot of the time. But those boss fights... wonderful! Best From boss fights yet maybe? Sekiro is not perfect by far. You pointed out many of it's less than perfections. But I think it's a great starting point for From to set out in a different direction from the Souls series. It's a branch of evolution for their games. The Souls branch can still exist. The Sekiro branch can too. They can add many of the things Sekiro lacks (if they see the need and place for it). But at its core Sekiro is a brilliant game already. And going back to Souls combat now may seem not as engaging any longer. They may have to improve Souls by incorporating some Sekiro into it at this point. I would love From to commit to providing variety and motivation to explore deeper into NGs in Sekiro, and all their games. It's something DS2 did pretty well. And Sekiro would be vastly stronger for it. Something where the full variety of prosthetic tools become a necessity to advance and survive. It would make playthroughs based around them more engaging. We've all binged on Sekiro at this point. Partly because it's new. Partly because it feels so damn good to play. It's understandable there's burnout. It's perhaps wise to step back. I've launched myself into Nioh (something I've never played before). It's good so far, but feels like a rougher, less smooth, vastly more RPGy, anime Sekiro. It's proving fun. But whatever works for you or anyone. Step away. Don't wring it until it's completely dry. Give it some space. It's a great game, and hopefully From expands upon it's greatness in the DLC (and sequels).
I fuckin loved the combat in Sekiro was simple enough to learn and felt great to beat a boss when i played Dark souls i didn't feel the same but then again i love being able to use blocking and parry as well where in dark souls dodging seems to be better overall so in that regard i loved Sekiro more than Dark souls
I had the opposite experience with NG+. I've put tons of hours into dark souls and bloodborne, but never did ng+. Sekiro on the other hand I did NG+ up to 5 times at least. There's incentive to do NG+ in sekiro because you have to in order to get everything. You can get everything in just one playthrough of DS and BB.
Sekiro is not Dark Souls or Bloodborne,the issue is that you want It to be something that its not. Sekiro has an really replayability for an adventure game but of course its not as good as an RPG.
You're right sekiro, is not bloodborne or dark souls and the creators have said that they do not want to really compare them. However, enough similarities remain to make comparisons between them, besides the obvious ones like same devs and 3rd person melee fighting game. The checkpoint system is the same, healing and upgrades to healing work the same, it essentially has bloodborne's QS bullet system albeit with some slight tweaks, I could go on but I'll choose to stop here. Despite the developers not WANTING people to compare this to souls, enough similarities remain to make these comparisons, especially when a large part of the people who watch this video are familiar with the souls series in some way because of the content on this channel. This is not dark souls or bloodborne, and while I think sekiro has the best fundamental combat system out of Fromsofts games, it does take several steps backwards in terms of what the creators former games offered players.
@@mo0k12 I agree w you in the most part,but i really think that the steps backs they take were to improve other things like the combat and a more coesive story...Anyway i really hope we get an soulsborne true espiritual succesor soon but i was not hoping that Sekiro was going to be it...I think that Sekiro is more of an Tenchu Reboot w Souls elements than an Japan Souls...We are probally going to hear more about Fromsoftware at the E3 2019 who knows what are they going to show there...Maybe an dlc or an Souls game...
@@mo0k12 I heard that this game will be set in the game of thrones universe haha its an really strange rumour but who knows XD...But dont wory, Fromsoftware releases their games in short spaces of time Demons Souls-2009 Dark Souls-2011 Dark Souls 2-2013 Bloodborne-2015 Dark Souls 3-2016 Dark Souls:Remastered-2018 Sekiro:Shadows Die Twice-2019 ???-2020-2021
if they didn't want them compared... why are there bonfires, estus, souls, enemy repawn on death/rest, and everything else...it is a souls game. a reskinned one.
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Let me reiterate; IM NOT SAYING SEKIRO IS A BAD GAME OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN A SOULS GAME. It’s a fantastic game in its own right but I think some adjustments could have been easily made to make it even better.
Could we get some more reasoning for the Unseen Aid thing? You kinda just said it should start low and have the ability to upgrade it. Why?
Personally I think the 30% is almost perfect (should be 33% for the actual 1/3 chance), because it shouldn't be something you really on. Having it be a nice surprise seems exactly the point.
Whereas having it much higher than that makes the revivals unbalanced, as you can just press die and have a fair chance of receiving Aid. Whereas otherwise you would revive to risk beating the fight, or try to flee. If you do die, having Unseen Aid proc is indeed a really nice surprise, but if it just happened regularly then the point of the system is nullified.
May as well just bring back corpse runs, which I do honestly miss and think could really enhance the gameplay.
100% agree.
Here's hoping they use the black mortal blade lure / black scroll description for a DLC to descend into the underworld or something like that 😁
I agree with a good bit of it but it doesn't come down to levelling up IMO, it's just that the skills are poorly balanced and that maybe it's a little too simplistic with only the one weapon. Because if you *do* mess around with the various skills and tools, they are incredibly powerful at the right time. The upgraded praying strikes gives you an incredibly fast and spammable attack against a lot of enemies, essentially stunlocking them, it's just that you can parry yourself out of most problems anyway. High Monk is my fave move but even that pales in front of the universal win-button that's Ichimonji Double since you can couple it with aerial combat arts and steamroll 90% of enemies and bosses because you can jump on them.
And yes, most of the end-game skills are pretty trash too. I think Fromsoft missed a good opportunity to make some of the skills delete enemy HP instead, which could lead to a change in playstyle. Lack of lightning for both you and enemies is a bit of a shame and it could have been interesting to switch between all 4 different "elements" (mortal blade, Genichiro's blade, lightning blade and regular sword), even if you couldn't get new weapons.
The tools are a fairly similar story. If used correctly they can turn any enemy into a joke, bosses included, but the absurd upgrade process with having to upgrade multiple tools to get to the one you want makes this difficult. On top of that the final upgrades are actually kinda bad for most of them, similar to the final combat arts, making it even sillier that you have to spend tons of resources to learn this.
It's not true that Dark Souls has less re-used assets, though, it actually has the most in the entire series if you go beyond bosses. Yeah, the bosses aren't *that* bad compared to some later entries but you do fight 3x tutorial demon, 2x hydra and 3x Kirk (not technically a boss but come on), on top of Taurus, Gargoyles and Capra being normal enemies later.
Your critiques are valid dude. Good vid!
Your not saying it should have been a soul's game but the whole video is sekiro didnt have this from soul's or that from blood bourne. Your speaking with two tongues..
Need to point out a mistake regarding Kuro's charm: You already have it by default (without being able to see it in your inventory) in your first playthrough; you benefit from its effects, such as not taking chip damage while blocking, already. Having the charm is your basic state while playing the game. New game plus introduces the item formally and allows you to give it up, making the game harder.
This.
also if you start up a completely new save file you will be able to hand over kuro's charm from the start. prob need another save with the game beat present on your system though.
@@lennic If you enjoy the game, it's well worth to try a new run without the charm. Just finished such a run myself and I must say it was challenging and fun. Definitely added a few more hours of gameplay for me!
@@Soul-Burn Without the charm and with the Bell Demon :3
You sir did God's work. I swear I was triggered by that mistake lmao
Killing boss in sekiro does'nt earn you money
It doesnt make any sens
aren't there some bosses that do drop sen?
only when you replay the mini bosses in ng+ and already have all prayer beads
whoosh?
@@nnnn12361 Whoosh
Well played From Software. Well played...
“Ds1 doesn’t suffer from the issue of reused assets”
Shall I remind you of the demon bosses? LoL
Let's be fair to DS1, the demons being reused in the game made complete sense from a lore point of view and the game is much much older than sekiro is. It could have been related to hardware restraints.
Mister E I feel like you’re replying to the wrong comment
@Mister E you really don't make any sense bro, are you okay?
I'd say dark souls 3 is the most polished game in the series, but I don't think its the best one, by far not... It may be subjective but re using assets means you could focus development time/cost on something else, it's a tradeoff
Dark Souls has the least new assets of any game in the series, it's the one thing that really disappointed me about the game when I learned about DeS. Many of the basic enemies are ripped straight from DeS as well, moveset and all, they just got a new coat of paint (skellies and hollows are the most obvious). And yes, the 3 tutorial demons - which were *also* the tutorial demon in DeS - are a bit much.
Hey man did you stop uploading forever? I see that you are alive, shame i found your channel this late.
Youropa not forever I hope, just busy with raising a family at the moment. Might start up again when Elden Ring drops. We will see!
@@mitchl6896 Congrats on the family!
I wouldn't mind having some different outfits and attires as rewards. It wouldn't have to change your stats, or just change it slightly maybe, but the core gameplay does not need to be affected by Sekiro having some fashion.
thankfully for pc there are atleast mods you can basicly reward yourself with after beating the ng+0, replacing your character with other models from the game.
I'm from the future, an update has added 3 new outfits.
Say no more fam, although 1 year too late
Lots of rosed eye goggles looking back at DS1 if you didn’t think they had reused assets and bosses
Unfortunately every Souls game reuses bosses lol. Though I think Sekiro does it a little too much. At least they get new movesets though.
Dark Souls 1 reuses the Asylum Demon model 3 times, but only reuses the actual fight twice. The Stray Demon variant has a completely different moveset. The Demon Firesage, which has an identical moveset to the Asylum Demon, at least does fire damage now. These distinctions are important, because Sekiro doesn't really have them. It has the 3 land Headless and two underwater Headless. It features the Blazing Bull twice, the Schichimen Warrior 3 times, the Guardian Ape twice, Corrupted Monk two times, the Chained Ogre 3 times, General Samurai 3-4 times, Ashina Elite twice, the Lone Shadow Swordman/poison bros 3 times and probably others i've failed to mention.
Dark Souls 1 in comparison to Sekiro, hardly reuses bossfights at all. Also, Sekiro does something similar but ultimately different to Dark Souls. In Dark Souls, bosses would later turn into regular enemies to show how far you've come. In Sekiro, regular enemies will occasionally stand in as bosses.
@@RatchetandSly the majority of your examples are mini-boses, which DS1 didn't even have
@@RevMirrane They are called Mini-bosses, but they are effectively bosses. They have much larger healthbar-posture bars than the regular enemies, require multiple deathblows, drop valuable items, do not respawn, and will often trap you in their area. They may be called 'mini-bosses' because they have no story significance and don't necessarily forward the plot, but a lot of the mini-bosses are harder than some of the main bosses. Some of them, the only way to tell that they're bosses is the introductory cutscene, as well them dropping a memory. That's it.
Effectively, they're still bosses.
LiFE 707 Also some bosses in DS 1 was badly designed. They were more frustrating than challenging. Bosses in Sekiro are much more well-rounded.
My main complaint is how after finishing Sekiro, I returned to Dark Souls and ended up thinking, "Damn. This game is far too slow."
It makes the Other games more easy I swear I see everything in slow motion now 😂
Agreed it's almost hard to play now. Bloodborne still has a good pace but ds1 is slooooooowwwwwww
i did become a parry god in ds3 after sekiro :p seems so easy now.
@Sloth Tonight I had this same view and started with DS3 first and have been enjoying it a lot more than when I tried DS1 after it came out
This is actually my biggest problem with from software lately, it's just how quick the games are getting it's not what I liked about Dark souls, it was a slow follicle thing... a ebenflow if you would, in Sekrio I find myself spamming my block button and waiting for a symbol to pop on my head that i jump over or Merkie counter. Gone are the days of playing a knight with giant shield and slowly learning the game in a comfortable pace... gotta be that pro streamer that uses a broken straight sword no shield no armour :(
You made good videos. I hope you come back.
He made meh videos
I wish Wolf has different outfits tired of seeing him in the same outfit throughout the Game!
This.
Death Bats
That's what mods are for.
You can play as a lizard. Or Emma. Or probably doom guy fuck I dunno. But yes mods do exist for sekiro.
Good reason to pimp out your pc actually. I put in about 300 cad to get mine good enough to play sekiro at 60 FPS 1080 p with no issues. Now I can play thousands of games on pc that I was currently cock blocked by my ps4 pro. I’m sure If you knew what you were doing you could do it even cheaper as sekiro was running on low settings perfectly fine before I upgraded the gpu and cpu etc.
Couldn’t agree more, I was thinking an old school outfit unlocker where you just beat certain challenges to unlock them
Yong Li I’m playing it on PS4 though no mods here😬
To me. Sekiro is just the best ninja game I've ever played. No more, no less. It's the Ninja Scroll game I've always wanted. Meaning. I didn't go into the game thinking. 'I hope it's just like BB'
Exactly. It's like Tenchu Z but with Dark Souls boss fights
THIS.
Was hoping it would be like Tenchu, wasn't disappointed.
@@AwokenGenius
nah, Tenchu's grapple anywhere & poison rice would've broke it. In hindsight Tenchu was really casual.
Yeah but I wish your character could actually look like a ninja, like the black mask and black ninja shirt and pants, gloves , boots etc... Really sucks you wear the same orange hobo robes the entire game even into ng+... Etc... If they would of added any cosmetic option even just some masks, would of been way better imo.
Hey man I found your channel recently and just leaving this here because I know you read the comments, really love your lore videos on the fromsoft games and looking forward to you coming back with more content :)
Its hard to argue your points and I completely agree that you should get more XP for defeating real bosses.
I knew from the start that this wasn't gonna be like a normal souls game and treated it like any other regular story based singleplayer game. And I really enjoyed it! Sekiro is a fantastically crafted game with really fun combat and an interesting world, spiced up by Fromsofts amazing character/monster design. In the end I do prefer DS/BB more because I just enjoy RPG elements a lot, but Sekiro stands out very well on it's own. It might not be my most replayed Fromsoft game, but I cherish the time I spent with it.
SweetTaLe totally agree
I agree to a certain extent with your gripes with the game but also think that a lot of these are "issues" simply because the game isn't an RPG but an adventure game instead and things aren't certain way because of lore and how "it should be".
I'll like just for the sake of behelit anyway.
Maybe you don't play action game that much to see that it is not genre problem. Sekiro progression and stealth is very poor compared to popular action games
@Jacob Jaywant comparing sekiro to dmc would be so unfair since it s an extremely high standard, but yeah compared to real hack m slash, sekiro combat is not that special
This looks like an RPG to me but with less options, the main character is just a soulless douchebag like in any souls game
@@2paktolife he's extremely likeable in my opinion, loyal to the core. I don't get why plp don't like the story.
@@raeluncl2693 i don't see why the progression system is poor, you have many item, each have unique useage for certain situation and skill progression. It certainly not to the level of dmc but to say it poor for an action game seem to me like u only use some item, not all of the to the full extent.
Imagine if the Mortal Blade worked like a power up, where you had to sacrifice one of your revives to draw it?
I would sell a kidney for that mechanic. Mid Fight I pull out the ace up my sleeve, and die. Because I forgot I’m out of revive charges.
10/10, would try again though
Only real replayability I've found is to do challenge base level runs, besides that ng+ replayability isn't really rewarding imo
Dude ur totally right i started ng+ and after an hour im like....what am i doing.
I like making those mini bosses pay for raping me in my first play through
@Nobody’s Shadow i almost did in my first play through just 2 upgrades left
You want replayability in ng+?
Forfeit kuro’s charm and ring the bell.
It’ll give the game a new taste
@Nobody’s Shadow man I played enough Demon's Souls to never wanna mf farm upgrade shit again
Please come back
Femi Ikr
HE GOT HEARTED. THEY'RE WATCHING.
I feel like ur judging Sekiro too much as if it were a souls game and that it’s not meeting the “souls quota” but From Soft stated many times that they wanted to push away from their previous titles and make something completely fresh and new. While I agree with some of your points, I feel your trying too hard to put the souls formula in a non souls game.
CCrumpits It isn’t completely fresh and new, that’s the thing. It has a lot of aspects from a Souls game still in it and I think that’s throwing people off. Bonfires are Sculpture’s Idols, Estus flasks are healing gourds, Firelink is Dilapidated temple, enemies respawn when you rest, estus shards are gourd seeds, you lose xp when you die, going hollow is like dragon rot, NPC’s are similar in both games, there’s interconnectivity/shortcuts, games can be very challenging and cryptic, etc. Looking at all these, I honestly can’t blame people for thinking this is a souls-like game when it really isn’t. That’s a mistake I made and it took me a while to accept that it wasn’t and finally “git gud” at the game and enjoy it for what it is.
@@BOLPutube well, The Surge uses all of these mechanics, yet it's a completely different experience.
Petko Fuchalksi It isn’t made by the same company though. It’s easier for people to think Sekiro is a souls-like game for all of the reasons stated and because of the dev being FromSoft
@@BOLPutube That indeed is the problem. They stated multiple thimes that sekiro IS NOT A SOULS GAME. yet, everyone ignored them.
Petko Fuchalksi Not everyone follows what devs say lol. The average gamer probably saw it was made by FromSoftware and just assumed it was gonna be a Souls-like game. Yeah they should’ve done more research, but you really don’t realize it until you start to get into the game some more
Fuucckk remember the arkham games where when stealth take downs cause the enemy to become more a more scared, they could've totally something similar and that in of itself could tie in with the shura ending
I think I agree with all your main points. A few things felt too nitpicky. Like the Guyobo spear thing. The things I agree the most with are the dragonrot gripes and the fact that most shinobi skills are too expensive and come too late to be of any use.
It all comes down to personal preference 10/10 for me the setting and level design is what I dreamed of when I saw the first teaser trailer
Lack of replay value outside of alternative endings does suck but if that's what had to be sacrificed to give us combat that completely outshines Souls, then I'll take it. It's great to see Fromsoft make a game with a higher skill ceiling and (finally) with something to it outside of "dodge, poke, dodge poke etc".
Dodge poke being replaced by poke parry which was already in all the other soulsborne games.
@@videogamesaintnofunnomore5997 theres also jumping an mikiri, so thats 3 options you have to deal with enemy attacks. 4 if you count blocking and deflecting as different things
@@videogamesaintnofunnomore5997 comparing the parry in souls and bb to sekiro is laughable. try a different argument cuz your losing that one. you have to also jump, dodge, block, attack, nikiri, listen to enemy parries, sneak in, sneak kill and so on. what can you do in souls? wait for an enemy animation to finish then press R1, maybe dodge if you want (strafing works for most games ROFL) and maaaybe parry. which again, is laughable compared to sekiro.
@LeadFaun nikiri counter, sneak in and out, sneak kill, ledge kills air kills and grapple. oh! i forgot about diving and underwater combat. but sure keep convincing yourself that soulsborne combat is anywhere near as complex as sekiros.
BigBosta1969 So the series has gone from dodge poke to block, parry yeah the combat has come such as Looonnggg way xD for me the best combat series was DS3 BB and the weapon arts makes using them much more fun than simply block, tap parry rinse repeat. Yawn.....
Only thing I would disagree with is reusing assets. Not that that isn't true, but saying that DS1 didn't really suffer in this way is blatantly false. There are 2 reskins of the first boss (one below him, then the fire version). Also, the Capra demon and Taurus Demon just become normal enemies once you get past Quelagg's domain. From has always had this problem and DS1 is not exempt from it by a longshot. I agree with the lack of differing playstyles that you hinted/talked about. I wanted to switch to spear as a main wep, rejecting my traditional shinobi training, but nope. Also, why is this no real counter to grabs? Thrust has the mikiri counter/deflect, attacks have deflect/block, why am I so powerful and skilled but I can't find a way to not get grabbed? Makes no sense to me. Great video overall though.
All of there games reuse assets,some more than others
Ely Powers You can evade grabs. Also if you attack fast enough you can sometimes stagger them out of the grab animation.
@@0816M3RC Ya, I'm aware you can evade grabs. I'm talking about an actual counter of some sorts. Thrust has mikiri, but grabs should have an actual counter as well. Something like I counter-grab them when well timed. Minor gripe at the end of the day.
Bad hitboxes have no counter
I Symmetrikloki FromSoft has always struggled with hitboxes.
For me it's seeing that footage of that guy completely dodging the Caged Ogre but yet he is still dragged into his open palms is complete an utter bs. It's a good game, but that does irk me.
Mitch please come back. I've been binging your old bloodbourne lore videos. I really like listening to your take on games even if I disagree sometimes.
One day I promise!
@@mitchl6896 that is awesome to hear. Hope your doing well and staying safe during these crazy times. And thank you for all the great content you've provided us with.... 👍
Just discovered this channel and I already wish he would upload some more stuff. Great content, man!
The fact that this was supposed to be a stealth game at the start. (Tenchu revive) Makes all these more glaring.
Yea the prosthetic was disappointing in the way that I never use any more while fighting bosses and only use them for fun in the way I take care of grinding
Bason Idk You don’t use them I combat? That’s the point...
Bestowel is an amazing ninjutsu skill. It smashes through guarding enemies. I find it just as useful as the other 2
Lore wise it would really not make any sense for you to use the lightning attacks though...
and skip the ashina outskirts... ehm...
no?
Yeah.. gotta say.. most of his complaints were kind of... dumb... It was like he was expecting another dark souls...
and too be honest it seems to be he really didn't make use of the prostetics as he should have...
@J P
Are you the guy who comments on 8bites' videos?
From time to time yes :D @@voiceofamos
@@obiwanshinobi87 Thought I recognised you. I can barely watch that playthrough anymore - the noobishness is too much!
hahaha... Yea she still has a lot to learn... But her noobiness amuses me :D
For some reason watching a pro play is less fun... at least for me :D
That's why I also watch Afrosenju's playthrough...
not sure if you know him.. but I think this game might break that guy.. @@voiceofamos
Great video! The Berserk ost makes it very immersive, great choice 😎👍
I have a theory about XP in Sekiro. I believe Activision intended to sell XB boost microtransactions, until the whole loot box controversy with Shadow of Mordor and SW BF2 happened.
or From Soft actually had the balls to tell Activision that the game will have no microtransactions, and the XP was leftover code that they used.
*Video starts*
mitch: blah blah blah
Me: wait, is that berserk?
Dude that's all I could think lol
Mist Raven is actually insane, so fun and great for when you're getting swarmed.
Sekiro is not an RPG though?
It is an action-RPG. Just because all the armor and weapons dont have 10 stat categories doesnt rule it out for being a role playing game.
Fuck genres.
I also had a bit of a problem in my first playthrough of sekiro, I've notice that there was input lag on the controls. Made things a bit more difficult than it should of.
The game doesn't have input lag
You just suck
Nice touch on the background music with the berserk ost ;)
WHOA WHOA HOLD ON
Is that the Berserk soundtrack in the background? Damn I love that series
I very much missed the customization from previous games.
I love Sekiro and have played a lot and you're 100% right on those points dont let the fanboy dislikes get you down
I've taken the platinum 2 days ago. That means I played in ng +4-5 and grinded xp. I agree 100% with you.
I finished the game 8 times within a week and a half (95 hours playtime+ plat) some of his points are valid some of them not really... I actually was never more excited to jump into NG+ ever before...
@@maxlastbreath There's nothing new on ng+ though. The game just becomes easier and It gets really old when you have to get all 4 endings and grind xp
@@StardustCrusader18 Nothing was new in NG+ in Souls game in the first place. "Yay! the rings have a "+1" on their names, and there's some extra ennemies for artificial difficulty!"
@@TheAskald and that's a problem in previous games too, that others games have this problem does not mean that sekiro should not try to solve it at least
@@m.dave2141 I agree. But it's difficult to think what could be additional content in NG+, why not just putting in NG0 in the first place?
Sekiro needs new oufits and swords
Thank you as always for you content! Nightjar Slash helps me shred both Owl fights and the Shuriken with Chasing Slice is indispensable for closing the gap during the approach of each encounter.
One thing that always annoyed me was how Wolf always seems to lose his balance after being hit (even by the most trivial of enemies) causing you to either hold block to catch yourself, or fall and use the safety roll...
This happens so much that it made me wonder why there's even a posture meter at all for your character? I'm beginning to think Wolf has a severe inner-ear infection with as much as he has trouble keeping his footing.
Just don't get hit.
You've gotta parry and avoid your posture meter filling up. If it's too high, holding your guard up will make it decrease faster.
@@saitamasensei4508 I anxiously await the posting of your "All bosses - no damage" playthrough.
@@KismetWolf i certainly did beat a few bosses without getting hit. Not all of course but now knowing a couple more things. It's not impossible. At the end of my playthrough I found a channel that could help you out a lot it you wish to win at all costs. It's called Tyrannicon
@@oklimbo hes talking about sekiro getting stuned after being hit Even if your posture meter isn't full wich i can confirmar that happena a lot
I totally agree with you on the bosses should drop more then just a memory it would have been so cool to receive prosthetic tools or a combat art related to the boss like for example: Gyoubu's spear,The way of Tomoe,or Isshin's glock.
Berserk soundtrack absolutely beautiful
I think Matthewmatosis summed it up best when he said 'I don't judge my enjoyment of the game based on how much stuff I've got in my inventory. I judge it by the things happening to me.'
i was just watching the dark souls lore vídeos , really good Work , i hope to see more of this Channel
i pretty much agree with everything said here but i want to point something out about the NPC sidequests. i agree that the rewards for most of them are really underwhelming, but i think a few of them are the most interesting NPC story progression fromsoft has ever done. stuff like potentially sending an innocent person to become a bizarre medical experiment, the pot noble turning into a fish, the lady at fountainhead murdering all the nobles, the big fish dying and showing up at the ape boss arena, etc. these are all insanely cool to discover the first time around even though the rewards arent great.
Honestly that's nothing new when you play Bloodborne for example. BB had some of the best NPC ques and stories ever.
@@Rowan3733
You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're joking.
Sekiro side quests are not interesting nor as impactful as any of the Dark Souls or Bloodborne series. Remember getting the umbilical fragment in BB and the scene of her giving birth and how this impacted the ending? Remember Siegwart of Catarina in DS3 and how doing hs side quest gave you an important upgrade material and changed the flow of a boss fight? None of Sekiro side characters had the same weight ... so I don't know where you're getting you opinion from.
I totally agree. I happened upon the big fish at the guardian ape location as well, and it was so damn cool.
The only complaint I really have about Sekiro is no unlockable outfits, or versions of his Katana. Everything else to me is perfect.
@@ForeverLaxx you can't say alfred or Eileen aren't fun to do
You don't get Gyoubu's spear in reservoir. You get his broken horn.
Which... turns into a spear
I wouldn't characterize most of these as issues, rather than drawbacks relative to the souls series. As a standalone game, it is excellent.
EDIT: Also, this video could be way more refined and organized than it is.
@Fernando BTBAM is my favourite band :)
Mist raven is really good for creating an opening on really spammy bosses to get that initial chunk of health damage you need for them to start accumulating poise damage. I also found myself using it frequently to ensure I could get the last bit off the last health bar done as all bosses get extra spammy at that point
You stated very concisely what i was thinking sir.
It always annoys me when people complain about Sekiro not having multiplayer. It's a story based action adventure game, not an open rpg. I could understand if we created our own characters, but we don't. And can you imagine how difficult it would be to balance? You'd probably just have one shot builds running around with yashi-however-it's-spelt sugars, the firecracker, and the spiral spear. Or you'd just get your revives burnt up in a difficult area. Or someone just applying the burn status to you and going to town.
It simply wouldn't work.
the reason for complaint is the small details of the single player experience is not well-polished, which ended up making the game boring on replay
I'd like to hear some actual reasoning from you guys, other than just, "it's this way, so it sucks."
@Jacob Jaywant think half of these are very opinionated, and again no reasoning for them, just a list. "Bad story," is verrryyy subjective, and Sekiro is the first of From's games to have an outright story in this fashion. What does, "lack of creative features," mean? Sekiro literally has the most innovative gameplay out of the series. I do personally think the npc questlines weren't as good this time around, though wouldn't call them bad, there's certainly plenty of great dialogue in them though. The recycled areas thing is kinda mute, as the castle, outskirts, estate are all reused but also redesigned. They've done that before in their games, (Bloodborne changed enemy designs greatly depending on certain things). The rest is very subjective. The music that we did get was largely good, but we could definitely have more.
I think the complaints that a lot of people have are very lackluster, and not deeply thought out. In the end you have to remember that Sekiro, (as the other games), is a piece of art, not just a commercial product. The designers had a vision, and stuck to it. For this they should be praised. Constructive criticism is always welcome, but simple opinions are generally not even considered.
@@alicaido6616 Well said my guy.
@j mula To any newcomers in this thread: The music was great, the bosses and even Minibosses were great, the level design
Love the game, but my complaints are:
- Camera can get you killed if you get pinned against a wall or if it automatically unlocks off of an enemy
- Some skills and shinobi prosthetic upgrades are useless, e.g sen throw, butterfly kunai, divine abduction upgrades, lazulite
- frame rates dip often
- Input delay for blocking, so parrying must be timed slightly early rather than at the moment of the attack, which is sometimes hard to pull off, as doing it too early by even the slightest margin will result in blocking and getting posture destroyed, or too late and you will get hit and possibly die (combined with frame rate dips and ng+ and it becomes frustrating to deal with)
True. I enjoy a fair and hard game. I don't need another unfair punishment playing games.
-Camera issues are nothing new to fromsoft games, but they are really bad in some cases here. Those "Lone Shadow Longswordsman"-types in their tiny rooms are awful, because they often push you to the wall where the camera stops working. Worse than capra demon^^
- Not useless but too specific. For some (spear, axe) there are less than 10 enemies in the game that actually have a weakness to those.
- Framerate problems? Console user, huh?
- This is not input delay. This little feature is called inertia. Movements don't happen instantaneously, but start by accelerateing a part of your body. So if you want to be on time for blocking you have to start your move BEFORE the hit arrives, not when you are already beeing hit.
@@mathis8210 I get what you mean, but I have tested this many times. I press the left bumper and the character starts moving after a delay. I know this because when you block you hear a click sound from your character raising your sword, which is delayed after I press the button. Perhaps it could be a performance issue for console if others don't experience it
@@rebingo1040 No, that click happens when the sword is in position and braced to block an attack. Sekiro has to move the sword to that position, hence the delay between pushing the button and hearing the click.
Berserk music in the backround, my man
Haven't finished the video yet but I really dislike how the music was done, it all blends together and just becomes unmemorable
Yeah the soundtrack isnt nearly as good as Dark Souls 3 or Bloodborne, both of which had incredible music - especially Bloodborne.
This whole game becomes unmemorable to me.
@LeadFaun because the way it's set up there's always music playing so I just naturally tune it out, and it all just becomes unmemorable to me
@@videogamesaintnofunnomore5997 username checks out
@StrikeHolesType oh yeah for sure it's immersive, I don't disagree with that at all.
It's good music but just in my opinion it's not nearly as memorable as past from games.
Thank you for this video, it was spot on. Altrough I've enjoyed my time with Sekiro, it takes way too many steps backwards.
Yeah I've not finished it yet and I consider myself an UUUBER hardcore Dark Souls and From fan in general but this game just lacks that "something" that all the Souls games and even Bloodborne has. I really feel like they went over the top on the difficulty by not giving you NEARLY the variation of play styles that Dark Souls did and this is coming from a guy that beat Dark Souls through NG7 and even beat it from start to finish as a Level 1. This game just doesn't even seem fair sometimes or it doesn't seem to know what kind of game it wants to be. It gives you the option of stealth but then will place enemies where stealth is almost impossible as an option but it's also equally impossible to go in there and get totally ganked. It just seems really unbalanced. I'm at the last boss but I can really say that I've found the game just far more frustrating as opposed to rewarding. Whereas in Dark Souls the frustration seems "worth it" in the end but in this game I really just feel like I want to just "beat it to say I beat it". Maybe it's just me.
@@SimpleManGuitars1973 I felt the same as you about the difficulty, but it really melts away after the 3rd or 4th playthrough. The final boss took me around 40-60 tries 1st run, then 18, then 1. The adaptation to Sekiro gameplay takes longer than you may think (and I also went to NG7 in DS1 and 3. I mean NG33 and NG14 but it stops at 7)
@@TheAskald Yeah I can honestly say that I really don't feel like I'm truly that much "better" at the game now than when I first started playing it. It's just such a vast departure for a Souls fan. I think non Souls fans might love this system and hate the Souls one honestly.
Berserk soundtrack goes so well in the background. Soooo good. Great video too.
Most videos that criticise Sekiro have long dislike bars no matter the content so don't worry dude, still a good video. NG+ is indeed lame, no unlocks, and nothing really new to discover except unlocking endings and special techniques from those endings, but that's at the end. I think the XP thing is Activision's doing tbh.
The grind in this game and no unlockables are sucking all the fun out of NG+ and the one combat art I was looking forward to got nerfed. Most of the combat arts just outright suck or are really ineffecient, it's actually better that you don't use them most of the time, as they even use spirit emblems, and you could have used a prosth and cut off a larger portion of the boss' HP and posture instead of a combat art. It was the only thing I was working toward, and now that it's gone, there's only the grind, and well...fuck that. At least in Dark SOuls I could try my hand at Magic or try out some weapons or whatever, mix and match and see what I can work, none of that in Sekiro. I'm 3/4 way through NG+ and I just have no desire to continue on, except maybe to kill Owl in the past because I missed that.
Not everything has to be about rewards or achievements. I rellay like this game because the skill ceiling in this game is really high. I am at the end on NG+ and still think there is alot of room for me to improve.
You could have done all that in your first play through though
Yeah, that's the thing, you're at the end of NG+. See if you feel the same way after NG+5. You won't.
@@TheBangooman I do lol. My ng+5 is using bell demon and no Kuro's charm. On sword saint rn and had an absolute blast. Hyped to down him and go back through for some of my fav fights again-- and I still have a lot of room for improvement for my speed and efficiency in encounters.
The two games that Sekiro made me think of the most were Way of the Samurai and Nioh. Nioh being set with nearly the exact same setting, when playing Sekiro im forced to think of all the strategy in Niohos fights vs Sekiros straight forward posture system. And i'd love to see From do a Way of the Samurai, with its stance and fighting styles, paired with its inherently whimsical nature and story telling.
WheediesManchild Nioh focused heavily on using the right element on each boss.
@@0816M3RC Did it now? I never took that as as proverbial gospel but only as a strategy. And I dont even think I even fought many bosses that way either, guess it wasnt my play style.
My biggest disappointment on subsequent playthroughs is the lack of main weapon swapping like gaining the mortal blade but essentially just being another normal sword when it should've done more from a gameplay perspective but eh I've found the game engrossing in its own way that is appreciative
Great video !!! Much love brother ✌🏻✌🏻
R u using an ost from berserk in the background?
Most of your complaints are, "Why isn't this an RPG?" Probably because it isn't an RPG. Why can't I respec stats? Because it isn't an RPG. Why can't I change weapons and armor and skills into another class? Because it isn't an RPG. Why doesn't new game plus give better rewards? Because it isn't an RPG. Why no covenants? Because it isn't an RPG. Have you never played a game that isn't Soulsborne? It's not darksouls, get over it.
And that's not even getting into the factual inaccuracies.
Shitty stealth mechanic and AI is not a RPG game issues, having 2 or 3 useful arts out of a dozen of points is not a RPG game issue, useless prosthetic is not RPG issue. Sekiro's progression is very poor if you compare it to action focused games like DMC or God of War.
@@raeluncl2693 still gets 9/10 on almost every review my friend
@@9671548 an 8 out of 10 for me
Ofc i like the game, does not mean i see no flaw
@@raeluncl2693 every game gas its flaws I agree. Im also a fan of this game. I do agree about the prosthetics tho.
Rael Uncl there is no useless prosthetic. Every boss has a weakness outside the firecrackers. Every single boss.
This just makes all the more hyped for a new Souls game!
The only reason I had for a ng+ was the last lapis and the xp for the last skills.
I don't think infinitness of playing this game is not a very fair criticism.
Though I do utterly agree that the prosthetic is extremely underutilised. It feels like the game wants to be too controlled in terms of what you can do, I do like the focus on one weapon combat, given how much more complex it is. But they limit the use of it immensely, allow you to change it constantly, and it just keeps you entirely uncommited to anything. I think they could have easily fixed the problems by making the Prosthetic more core to the moveset, you could only have a limited nuber of the ones you are likely to have found, have them be more or less unlimited use based and have more of them and hidden more and locked behind fight that sort of thing.
Also, I disagree on the lore being gone, there is still a lot of lore story telling from items, in a weridly archaic way though, notes intead of equipment, nigh useless consumable items with descriptions hinting at things atc.
Blood Machine Blood Machine Spot on description about prosthetics. I have over a thousand Spirit Emblems in my bank and I’d like to use them more but even with the talents that increase the amount you can hold, I always felt weary about using a prosthetic charge, especially when some of the useful ones cost a whopping 3 emblems.
But I just wanted to say you described it best in terms of giving you so many options you can change on the fly, yet by severely hampering your freedom to use them when you’d like, you do feel entirely non-committal to any of them.
I don’t know what the right fix would be, since everyone plays differently, and making them unlimited uses would obviously break most encounters. I guess we can only thank From for trying something new even if it didn’t quite pan out well overall.
Honestly great video. There's been so much praise for this game (rightfully so), but it's refreshing to hear some legitimate criticism. Keep it up Mitch!
Floppy Dolphinn good point. I love the game but it had issues. This made me really consider just how flawed some of the elements were. Like prosthetics was a great idea but I only really used firecrackers, and shining arts were very underwhelming. The overall combat system and boss quality compensated for that but there were more issues than I realized. I can also see the replayability being worse than other dark souls games because there’s really only one way to play the game other than the multiple endings
you are missing a critical point: this is a single player game, all the variety coming from going into ng+ here is not present since it was not builded for this purpose. Everything is designed for you to have an amazing immersive campaign, and they nailed it on so many aspects: the prosthetic tools are all useful and you can have access to them whenever the situation require to do so by just pausing the game, it is a very simplistic way to do it: "you see this enemy? choose which prosthetic you think it might works against him, knowing there is one or two that are more effective than the others" and you have concrete results. The rewards of the npc although they are shallow they are perfectly fitted in the story and the lore the game is trying to tell you, you don't expect from Hanbei, an immortal soldier survivor from the war against the Interior Ministers, to give you a valuable artifact or some sort or Dogen, a brillian apprentice of a genius doctor, relegate within a rotten dungeon to give you something special and yada...The combat arts works in the same way of the spells in DS once you become stronger you are not going to use the weak soul arrow right? but you are going for souls or crystal soul spear; same here, once you have mastered later arts you are not going to use whilwind or nightjar slash (although considering the wind-up of some arts you might want to use some basic arts since they are quicker). Soundtrack is, again, fitted so well in the context of the game, you have traditional instruments like the shamisen, koto and shakuhachi mixed togheter to build that sense of historical environment that game want you to feel, they are as vocal or choral as DS or BB for the simple fact that you are not fighting against blood thristy creatures ready to ripped you apart, you are "dancing" against shinobi or ninja or animals; the music is designed to bring rhytm to the fight, with fast tempo and slow and malinconic when is necessary (the Divine Dragon). The repetition of the mini-bosses is justified because they are part of a clan but still maintain a proper identity (lone hunter, Ashina Elite, Seven Spears....) the only one that I can't defend is the second Drunkard in Mibu Village, the fake Corrupted Monk (I get that she was guarding the palanquin that leads to the Fountainhead Palace but she has the same moveset as the real one, bad choice From) and the second Ape encounter (not the boss itself, but the transition of him between the lake and his den and the identical moveset; they could have added something like grappling points to spice things up or new animation like him climbing the wall or some sort). I was personally satisfied with this title, if you are not a fan of japanese historical settings you are not going to find anything memorable here, aside from the combat system of course. For people like myself and other that have studied this wonderful opera because wanted to figure it out what Miyazaki have tried to communicate us, we have found something special. Perhalps because of its niche cinese-japanese rooted narration, Sekiro is not meant for everyone but I'm glad nowadays where everything is either online, battle royal or filled with microtransactions, finding a pearl like this is truly remarkable. The game has flaws, many things could have been implemented or modified but because From always respects its deadlines the final product feels a little bit rushed at the end, but I would never have traided Sekiro with DS4 or BB2. Miyazaki gives his best on new IPs and not sequel (right DS3?) and although I would love to have a Sekiro sequel I'm looking forward to new Dlc or From's new title. There is few software houses like From that keeps innovating their games and we want to support them as much as possible because they deserve it.
You can't have the memories give different attack increases, because people would then just ignore areas and go back with more attack power. The difficulty of a lot of the bosses is relative. I beat Owl my first try, and Owl (Father) on my third, but know friends who've spent days on it. Whereas for some gods forsaken reason the Corrupted Monk had me stumped for days. I refused to do the potential stealth death blows, and thus it took me three days to beat it. There's also player experience to take into account, as new players could struggle with bosses such as Gyoubu, where returning players starting new saves would stomp him (or other bosses). You can't balance an attack power reward on subjective difficulty. The way to balance it would be to do the normal attack increase, then have the boss also drop other valuables, or more experience (which they already do).
@NordicOnur Honca why shouldn't you be rewarded for doing something harder before the easier stuff?
I'd imagine on a first playthrough people would just play normally without skipping stuff or ignoring areas.
NordicOnur Honca I've played all the souls games for hundreds of hours each, by the time I'd gotten up to Owl I was on a second save because I screwed up stuff in my first. I hadn't fought him before or seen him in vids. Got hit by the debuff once and just went on the defensive. He's not that difficult man, had a heal and a pellet left at the end of the fight. Was using the mist raven so if I did get hit I'd still get damage out. He's not all that difficult man. The hirata owl is insane tho. I see no reason why it's "impossible" other than subjective difficulty.
Harry Lime. Depends on the person. I did senpou before intended, hadn't even stepped foot in the inside of the castle yet. Just found the entrance of to the side and found the area cool so I did it. Ignored the castle when I found it and went to sunken valley because I found the enemies easier and (I think) they give more experience.
@@alicaido6616 Yeah, it does depend on the person indeed.
Don't like the rinse and repeat approach to bosses...They took a long time to make this game and they recycle environments and bosses way too much.. The combat system gets old after awhile and the fun is lost.. 8/10 score for me....
How do people say skiros bosses are repitative , then compare it to ds
@@aredhanush2300 DS bosses are not repetitive if you've ever gotten past Taurus Demon. Each boss has it's cancer. Sekiro's combat is orgasmic though, I would sell my soul for a sequel.
My gripes are: Ashina Castle gets reused 2.5 times, Minibosses are not unique at all, with them being reused very often, and the English voice acting was trash. Prosthetics like the Mist Raven were really useless, firecrackers were too OP, and most combat arts are objectively worse than stuff like Ichimonji Double. Overall, 9/10 game. The combat and the main story bosses are all really fucking orgasmic.
“It would have been nice to get something after beating Genichiro.”
You mean other than the Shinobi prosthetic?
Great points man, it’s good but there is room for improvement, and man I miss invasions
Numbers can never replace pure mechanics. The games that stand the test of time and become infinitely replayable (Ninja Gaiden Black, Vanquish, for ex.) are because of mechanical diversity, tight control scheme, UI layouts, dynamic combat and unparalleled gameplay depth. When it comes to gear, levels and build loadouts, there's always a limit.
I'm glad FROM diverged from their previous "replayable because of different numbers" philosophy, but the real issue is that Miyazaki's team don't have any experience with making infinitely replayable games in the action genre, unlike, say, Team NINJA.
Sekiro would have increased its replay value with build diversity, but only for a limited time. What Sekiro really needed was more gameplay depth, and a higher Player V. Enemy dynamic.
Finally, someone else who gets it! Build diversity in Bloodborne and Souls is cosmetic, it's artificial, it doesn't _actually_ do anything to change the gameplay. Whether you're a greatsword user or a spell caster, you dodge, attack, repeat, without much variation. At first glance Sekiro's combat looks more samey but it's actually much more varied because of how much freedom the devs had to mess with the timings for attacking and deflecting for different enemies. Still wouldve been nice if there was more depth to the combat though, its fun but it feels like its missing something. If they had made it so your sword moveset changed based on what prosthetic you had equipped or something like that, it couldve been really cool.
Few RPGs and action games stand that test of time, but they don't always have to be games that you can play over and over. A game that can be experienced and then remembered is also perfectly fine. Sekiro will be a game I'll recommend to people who would be into these kinds of games years down the line. Dark Souls is the same in that regard. These games are still remembered, even though the PVP eventually dies down and the game feels mostly the same even with different builds, self-imposed challenges and what not. In that sense they can stand the test of time the way a good book or movie would.
@@Goudhaantje1993 While you bring up a good point, one I failed to mention, I have to say that it's not the same remembering a game in 20 years time and going back to play the game in 20 years and have it still hold up in its market.
It is true that a game can be timeless in how memorable it is, or how it impacted the game industry; a game like Baldur's Gate being a good example.
But, video games are not movies or books. They are inherently interactive, and it speaks volumes when you play a 20 year old game and say "yeah, it was better when I played it 20 years ago" as opposed to saying "Wow! This game is still great"
When a game takes advantage of the qualities unique to its medium and pushes boundaries, the game will become memorable through an unrivaled gameplay experience, which can only be done by a video game.
I thank you for bringing up memorability as a quality in gaming.
How do you balance xp pouches?... For a first play through that'd be broken, the whole reason for dying multiple times would be broken
Make them NG+ only.
@@TheBangooman I like this idea, but my points still apply. I think if the pouches weren't worth a super big amount it'd work out.
You already have XP pouches in the shape of Skill Points. You get to the threshold, you got certain amount of XP "locked". Souls in the Souls games were different because they were used for everything and you needed that XP to increase stats, here you don't. You just pick the skill you are interested to, they are useful but they are not really necessary at all.
lokasocba don't know why I completely forgot about the skill points... yeah pouches are kinda dumb. Just play conservative if you're near a skill point I guess. Thanks for reminding me of that xD
you obviously haven't hit late game xp. I have to get 50000 XP for one level(by the final skill point I'll be at 80k) now a boss in New Game plus get you around 10-20k where some farming spots get 6K... See the problem? Fight 5-3 boss where I have a chance of losing all my XP or do a farming strategy that will get more than that amount of XP in an hour....
All XP purchase will do is lower the amount of framing needed to be done...
I love the music in this game actually. First time entering Mt. Kongo, seeing how colorful and radically different it looked compared to anything From has done PLUS music that was truly beautiful and serine.. I knew right then this game is god damn incredible. Same reaction entering Fountainhead. It’s subtle moments like that, that make this game very special to me.
100% agree with your video, hopefully in the dlc (if there is one), there will be more content
FYI about the only 15% increase atk with the sugar , it okey because it stacks, Try Sugar + Devine confeti + the Bestowal Ninjutsu ninjutsu (allows you to deal cheap hp damage on enemies blocks) on a mob before a mini boss. there also resistances in this game and it says so out right in the Demon Bell description. The more atk power you have the more resistance you have to posture damage and you do mo posture damage to enemies ofc . with all of those 3 buffs and good deflects the corrupted monk went down in like 40 sec without the snap seed, fire cracker or fistful of ash cheese.
I agree for the most part. I was really bummed about the lack of weapons and overall customization that was in the SoulsBorne series. More so on the weapons aspect because I felt that Nioh was a direct response to SoulsBorne and I thought they would respond in kind. Sekiro has nice combat but it feels like it could've been more.
Thats not the point of sekiro, dude. Its not an RPG. Couldve been more? Yeah, it couldve not been sekiro.
I couldn't put my finger on why I didn't like Sekiro and why I couldn't finish it. Mitch said it all perfectly! Thanks man!
You couldn't finish it because you are bad a the game
Don't lie to yourself
definitely agree. I am simply going into the new game pluses to grind up skill levels to get that achieve. At this point I can kill all the enemies in 1 or 2 tries but there is no purpose to continue playing. the skill lvl grinding is taking forever
Hope this gets a lot of views! :)
I feel like we all bought this game because we believed in From Soft, and hoped that any game they put out was going to be god-like. I definitely enjoyed the game, but I feel like I hate the game twice as much. Largely because of the lack of multiplayer or reason to keep playing, and partly because some bosses were just too difficult.
The game was 5 parts struggle, 1 part reward. I feel like the other games are more balanced with regards to struggle/reward. Especially with the ability to help along players or be helped along as needed.
I'm only 5 minutes in the video but so far it's exactly how I feel. The replay value is really lacking after you beat the game
it already lacked in all DS games imo. You have almost nothing new in NG+ in DS, outside of simply trying other weapons
I disagree with some of your points...for instance the boss memory thing. difficulty is subjective a lot of the time what one person struggles with another can breeze through. Having the same reward across all keeps it fair despite people struggling with different things.
Dancing dragon mask
Fair point.
However I don't think anyone would complain if beating Genichiro yielded a stronger boss memory reward then beating Gyoubu for example. Genichiro is a stronger opponent and he has more phases.
It is kinda odd that every memory is the same in terms of power regardless of who I beat.
@@asiamatron i actually struggled with Gyoubu far more. obviously it had to do with me still trying to play it like a souls game and dodge everything but the point remains i died to him like 7 times. Genichiro on the other hand only twice.
@@namicfm5997 Fair enough. I wonder how common that is though for other players.
True, I didn't struggle too much with Gyoubu. Bosses I did struggle with were Genirchiro, Headless(I still struggle with that bitch), and Isshin the Sword Saint.
By the time I reached Sword Saint Ishin, I had completely forgotten about every prosthetic upgrade besides the fire crackers.
Very valid points I never looked at it like this and I love this game
Why must every game have multiplayer?
he never said that, he said that a multiplayer could have added variation and replayability if i understood well
There was talk of having a invasion system that when you invade as a character
Or enemy
Sekiro's world is great. But it's less developed overall (at least what's presented to the player), and more focused and grounded on a specific time and place. So that sense of everlasting mystery in Dark Souls isn't as present. There is mystery about things like the Dragon Rot, the centipedes, etc. But it's nowhere near as deep and broad as the Souls games which pull from a greater variety of sources. And the basic setting of Souls which is multiple worlds and time overlapping and merging. Sekiro is very specific in its time and place.
The combat too is less broad than Souls' with the lack of gear/armor builds. But it's also deeper and more focused, and significantly more engaging. It feels far better to just play it. It's more fun combat by far. And the reality though is the weapon-based movesets of Souls is present. It's just in the prosthetic and skills. So visually there's a less overall variety. But the different kinds of approach to combat are there to some extent. You can do playthroughs of different prosethics and skills/styles if you like. No it's not necessary. But it's not necessary in Souls either. You can go through Souls with just a longsword too if you like. Just dodge-rolling, occasionally blocking/parrying and R1 spamming otherwise. You don't need to use heavy attacks or even the very fun addition of weapon arts from DS3 (which was perhaps an early move towards Sekiro combat). Playing through Sekiro is only simplistic if you don't focus on using the different tools and skills, the same way playing through Souls again is simplistic if you keep just R1ing a longsword for every playthrough.
There's no magic. I don't feel that's a huge loss, but I never really played any casters in Souls. Casting from afar isn't as fun imo as melee combat, so it's absence from Sekiro is no knock against it for me. But I understand others do enjoy casting it and miss it, and that's a bummer for them. But, it's a game about a ninja swordsman with a robot arm. It's overall more focused and specific.
Some of the mechanics like Dragon Rot feel underbaked. Or perhaps they pulled back from having it hugely influence the game because it was difficult to balance. Understandable when it's basically a mechanic that could kill off helpful NPCs for players. A compounding problem for struggling players. Imagine the crying from game media clowns about difficulty if some their Sekiro playthrough NPCs actually croaked. They already were whiny and entitled as it was. Actually, who cares about them. Forget them. Leave them to their entitled whines. Imagine just everyday players who may be struggling and then it gets compounded by NPCs dying off and they then struggle to find helpful items to buy (or even more necessary ones that are on some NPCs). Anyway, it's a cool idea for a mechanic that could definitely use more development. But I'm guessing it's real tough to find a good balance for it.
Stealth as well is very dated. It's like playing a stealth game from 20 years ago in some instances. But tuning stealth for modern games is a lot of work for purely stealth focused games. Making NPCs behave in not completely stupid ways takes a lot of time and resources. Sekiro is primarily an action-combat RPGlite, boss battler (not a real term, I know). Tuning a well-developed stealth system where NPCs have memories and scour the levels for you would be resource-intensive. So yeah the stealth is almost laughably shallow a lot of the time. But those boss fights... wonderful! Best From boss fights yet maybe?
Sekiro is not perfect by far. You pointed out many of it's less than perfections. But I think it's a great starting point for From to set out in a different direction from the Souls series. It's a branch of evolution for their games. The Souls branch can still exist. The Sekiro branch can too. They can add many of the things Sekiro lacks (if they see the need and place for it). But at its core Sekiro is a brilliant game already. And going back to Souls combat now may seem not as engaging any longer. They may have to improve Souls by incorporating some Sekiro into it at this point.
I would love From to commit to providing variety and motivation to explore deeper into NGs in Sekiro, and all their games. It's something DS2 did pretty well. And Sekiro would be vastly stronger for it. Something where the full variety of prosthetic tools become a necessity to advance and survive. It would make playthroughs based around them more engaging.
We've all binged on Sekiro at this point. Partly because it's new. Partly because it feels so damn good to play. It's understandable there's burnout. It's perhaps wise to step back. I've launched myself into Nioh (something I've never played before). It's good so far, but feels like a rougher, less smooth, vastly more RPGy, anime Sekiro. It's proving fun. But whatever works for you or anyone. Step away. Don't wring it until it's completely dry. Give it some space. It's a great game, and hopefully From expands upon it's greatness in the DLC (and sequels).
I fuckin loved the combat in Sekiro was simple enough to learn and felt great to beat a boss when i played Dark souls i didn't feel the same but then again i love being able to use blocking and parry as well where in dark souls dodging seems to be better overall so in that regard i loved Sekiro more than Dark souls
DS1 doesn't reuse bosses that much but DS3 does? WHAT?! The only boss you right again is Gundyr
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I had the opposite experience with NG+. I've put tons of hours into dark souls and bloodborne, but never did ng+. Sekiro on the other hand I did NG+ up to 5 times at least. There's incentive to do NG+ in sekiro because you have to in order to get everything. You can get everything in just one playthrough of DS and BB.
Sekiro is not Dark Souls or Bloodborne,the issue is that you want It to be something that its not.
Sekiro has an really replayability for an adventure game but of course its not as good as an RPG.
You're right sekiro, is not bloodborne or dark souls and the creators have said that they do not want to really compare them.
However, enough similarities remain to make comparisons between them, besides the obvious ones like same devs and 3rd person melee fighting game. The checkpoint system is the same, healing and upgrades to healing work the same, it essentially has bloodborne's QS bullet system albeit with some slight tweaks, I could go on but I'll choose to stop here. Despite the developers not WANTING people to compare this to souls, enough similarities remain to make these comparisons, especially when a large part of the people who watch this video are familiar with the souls series in some way because of the content on this channel.
This is not dark souls or bloodborne, and while I think sekiro has the best fundamental combat system out of Fromsofts games, it does take several steps backwards in terms of what the creators former games offered players.
@@mo0k12 I agree w you in the most part,but i really think that the steps backs they take were to improve other things like the combat and a more coesive story...Anyway i really hope we get an soulsborne true espiritual succesor soon but i was not hoping that Sekiro was going to be it...I think that Sekiro is more of an Tenchu Reboot w Souls elements than an Japan Souls...We are probally going to hear more about Fromsoftware at the E3 2019 who knows what are they going to show there...Maybe an dlc or an Souls game...
@@darksun7263 there are rumors that they are working on the next dark fantasy rpg, we can only wonder about when that will actually come out. :'(
@@mo0k12 I heard that this game will be set in the game of thrones universe haha its an really strange rumour but who knows XD...But dont wory, Fromsoftware releases their games in short spaces of time
Demons Souls-2009
Dark Souls-2011
Dark Souls 2-2013
Bloodborne-2015
Dark Souls 3-2016
Dark Souls:Remastered-2018
Sekiro:Shadows Die Twice-2019
???-2020-2021
if they didn't want them compared... why are there bonfires, estus, souls, enemy repawn on death/rest, and everything else...it is a souls game. a reskinned one.
I didn’t bother with the headless: I’m not about that life. (Completely unfun enemies)
14:00 I never even found the fire cracker in my first play-through...and now all hearing about is how crazy good it is. -_-.
i agree with you, i got bored half way through my second playthrough
Sekiro stinks for NG+. There's literally no motivation wrt to increasing vitality.
Well now I’m off to rewatch Berserk
What do people think about the reuse of the boss arenas??