When he save/loads, you'll notice he's always next to a portal. This is because the game gets confused thinking he's through the portal, whilst the camera stays in the same place, allowing them to clip through the walls. Basically, his body and camera are in two different places at the same time
@@MINECRAFTLOVER4000 ok, and if you aren't familiar with it /airboat was left in the game but doesn't require cheats to be turned on and it turns out you can actually beat the game without picking up the portal gun with enough airboats lol
My favourite part was "Ah, so this is gonna be interesting, cus there are a lot of elevators that you just has to walk on, so to speed this up it's gonna be... oh, or you just skip the whole section that's fine too"
I'd really like to see these guys react to the airboat% speedrun. I'm just really curious what they would have to say about spawning in an airboat not being locked behind sv_cheats.
For anybody curious, the save loads are done to offset the camera from the players actual position, making what you see not actually Chell's POV. To save computational power, portals have weird physics around them, which often messes with collision. Runners use this to desync the camera from the player, allowing portals to be shot through walls.
Save-load tech to detach pov so you can shoot through walls, knowing when and/or where to aim during that time is a whole bunch of levels ahead. Simply amazing.
Im actually surprised that the devs didnt know what was happening with the SLA. saving and loading in certain situations near a portal kind of "disconnects" the camera from the player itself, so the portals are shot from the other portal, which allows them to be shot from out of bounds
On these Devs React videos you should also invite the speed runner you are showcasing, or at least a runner who is familiar with the current tech so it can be explained.
I’m not sure what movement tech still works in Alyx’s engine or not, but ABH specifically doesn’t work in every version of the Source engine after Portal and HL2E2 as far as I’m aware. B-hopping works to varying degrees of success in later games but ABH doesn’t, which is what they were referring too.
On the heartrate thing. 140 is high for sitting still, but it's not super bad. That'd be mostly normal if he was excersizing. iirc its 180+ or 200+ when you worry about strokes/cardiac problems. Probably not healthy, but pretty reasonable.
The stuff he did with the portals and the cake at the end of the Inbounds run was after the run had finished, so that out of bounds stuff is allowed, it's just something some speedrunners do for fun (and to flex their skills).
3:45 This is the second time I've heard a developer sound really victorious when the speedrunner hits a scene that you just have to sit and wait to play through. Other one was in a Cuphead walkthrough, the scoff out of the developer was transcendental.
Dev's a lil message: an Accelerated Back Hop (short ABH) is a way to duplicate the velocity up to 3000. The save load is being used to clip (go through something). And to be more confused watch a TAS playing portal 1
You guys need to also invite someone from the speedrun community to help explain some of those tricks because it's not that much fun when the devs get completely confused to what is going on the screen, like the save/load portal glitches they used on this run.
8:22 CONFIRMED COMPANION CUBES ARE ALIVE , the dev said he skipped killing the companion cube , you cant kill something that doesn't have life you destroy it , as in you cant kill objects
Cool, dev reactions to speedruns are fun to watch. I'm just as curious as them as to why save/load functionality on a keybind is making an absolute mockery of the collisions
this game is so big in my mind (idk how else to phrase that, important? mythical? a coore memory?) that its so weird but nice to hear the actual people who worked on it like wow this amazing creation didnt just start existing by the grace of a gaming god and human beings worked on it? damn who knew
I'm sure someone said it already but the crazy portal shooting just looks crazy because he uses a glitch to separate the camera and body of the player so he's actually shooting portals in other places of the map that he can't even see, just out of memory.
4:54 they know well how to skip the elevators, but that isn't allowed in this category. in Out Of Bounds (OOB) basically the whole run is teleporting from elevator to elevator. (This is Inbounds, where anything goes, except for placing portals out of bounds, or going out of bounds.)
es ist so schön zu sehen wie die gehirne hinter portal auf sowas reagieren... alle valve developer sind so sympathisch und lustig drauf. wirklich klasse
The save glitch it's a powerful glitch. If you save and load at the edge of a hit or of the portal you can walk through some walls and shoot portals out of bounds.Check out Mshushi
writer: "he's skipping a lot of dialogue tho"
to be fair, he's skipping a lot of programming too
dialogue, programming, level design, art... the only people who should take it personally are the testers :P
and if you truely loved dialogue they would of read under the heart rate it says ''world record is 8:56:29 by me''. psh amateurs
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@@anarchybreednah we just try to mahe sure that the experience is great for the normal players
Don't worry Eric, I'm sure he listened your beautiful dialogues a few dozen times before doing this speedrun.
Nice moon knight pic
Really is fantastic writing too
Erik
i’m pretty sure all of us in the speedrunning world have heard all the lines so many times that we can recite them by hesrt
llk
When he save/loads, you'll notice he's always next to a portal. This is because the game gets confused thinking he's through the portal, whilst the camera stays in the same place, allowing them to clip through the walls. Basically, his body and camera are in two different places at the same time
so your telling me he uses time manipulation to split his body and soul?
@@camponotus219 well when you put it that way
OMNIPOTENT GLITCHING
Someone tell Cixin Liu, this sounds like a whole new hard scifi trilogy to me
Was waiting for their Eureka moment when they would actually get the bug but none :C
It's 2021 and IGN is making portal content.
What a time to be alive
Yes
A truly great game 💯
Still alive.
Still alive
If only Valve would.
What a time to be still alive
It’s hilarious having Eric act like a wounded puppy every time he skips the great dialogue. Hilarious.
true
EriK
Eric is a puppy confirmed
Erroricko-san
Feel like they needed a speed runner or someone with them to explain what was going on.
Check back in tomorrow! They interview the speedrunner!
@@mark_medina_ign4725 Oh awesome!
Like with the DoubleFine devs reaction to the Psychonauts speedrunner who did his run alongside them.
Exactly lol
@@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive Yeah, basically an AGDQ with Devs, like the BattleBlock Theater 100% speedrun.
Imagine finding out half of your game can be skipped because you defined what walls cant be portaled onto instead of what walls can
More than half 😂
These would be more gripping if they had a speed runner on commentary to answer questions about how things are done
Agreed.
Yeah it was such a waste doing it this way. They have no idea what is happening and can’t appreciate the strategy or execution
@@paperwasp2378 look up “Portal Speedrunner Explains to Valve How He Broke Their Game”- it’s a continuation of this video
dont agree
@@paperwasp2378 naw its fun seeing them trying to guess whats happening.
*Out of bounds starting in:*
Me: Oh man, these devs are in for a ride.
honestly wish they also showed them the tas and maybe the least portal tas runs because those are even cooler
@@MINECRAFTLOVER4000 minimum portals is 0 if you use airboats. Pretty sure that's not allowed in anything outside airboat% though
@@solsystem1342 normally minimum is 15 sadly
@@MINECRAFTLOVER4000 ok, and if you aren't familiar with it /airboat was left in the game but doesn't require cheats to be turned on and it turns out you can actually beat the game without picking up the portal gun with enough airboats lol
Eric trying to praise the dialog is just perfect
Deserved too, between those three gods representing Portal's devs, I'd say Eric is Zeus.
@@Schultz3 true
Erik
@@8strate8 im sorry, the whole sentence is ruined now, im done
@@purpldanial im sorry, the whole sentence is ruined now, im done
"He looks pretty calm". Yeah, that's just how Red Man be.
He is no stranger to wr pace, that's why
cnta ven
"Max" heart rate is 220 - age so 140 for him is high but not problematic
hey infrabread, fancy seeing you here
It's crazy how they have no idea the portal gun and the camera can be separated. It's impossible to guess that's happening.
That explains a lot for both the speedrun and their confusion
My favourite part was "Ah, so this is gonna be interesting, cus there are a lot of elevators that you just has to walk on, so to speed this up it's gonna be... oh, or you just skip the whole section that's fine too"
9:15. x2...
Every writer during the Speedruns: Look how they massacred my boy
😂
🤣😂yeah
we need a “Half-Life: Alyx Devs Reacting to VR Speedruns”
same with portal 2 and l4d
It would just be spinning through walls lol
@Z Z wdym
Speedrunning. Playing the game for a long time, in order to be able to play it as little as possible.
Weird right?
Easy there Socrates
Running: spending a long time going from place to place so that you can go from place to place in as little time as possible
It would be really cool if we could see devs react to portal 3 speedruns
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@@Karminnn what
*game
You not only get to see the game, but you also get to not see the game at 120mph.
That writer seems super proud of his work and he should be, inbetween levels are a joy thanks to him
It's cool seeing Valve react to cool speedruns. Would love to see them react to Half-Life 21. Surprised they got Jeep after he left Valve.
Yeah, Valve please watch Half-Life done in 21!
they did a 'devs react to half life 2' speedrun video last year look it up!
@@ahorserunning half-life 21 is a segmented speedrun of the first half life in 21 minutes.
Glados : *makes a serie of puzzles for testing*
Chell : *zoomin in the walls*
Dude completely dismantles their game and they are absolutely beffutled the entire time. Love it!
I'd really like to see these guys react to the airboat% speedrun. I'm just really curious what they would have to say about spawning in an airboat not being locked behind sv_cheats.
100%
Seems like a case of "wtf how could we forget it?"
For anybody curious, the save loads are done to offset the camera from the players actual position, making what you see not actually Chell's POV. To save computational power, portals have weird physics around them, which often messes with collision. Runners use this to desync the camera from the player, allowing portals to be shot through walls.
Save-load tech to detach pov so you can shoot through walls, knowing when and/or where to aim during that time is a whole bunch of levels ahead.
Simply amazing.
Im actually surprised that the devs didnt know what was happening with the SLA. saving and loading in certain situations near a portal kind of "disconnects" the camera from the player itself, so the portals are shot from the other portal, which allows them to be shot from out of bounds
Hearing them find that out when talking to the speedrunner was fascinating
@silverhusky, was there an interview after this video? Do you remember where you found it?
@@silverhusky7993 it disconnects the portal gun from the player*
(at least according to the wr holder)
it skipping over the companion cube credits portal fall kinda hurt ngl
"is this the fastest or just a random speed run?"
says world record right by the heart rate monitor they mentioned lol
the inbounds one is no longer wr (though it was at the time). the out of bounds one is the current world record.
@@clairevoyanceSLA ah, my mistake
This was a triumph. I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS
this would be great if y'all had a Speedrunner on the call explaining and answering the Dev's questions
they did, next video
they didn't even notice that the out-of-bounds guy just broke his previous WR lol
Valve actually showed up for their community for this, I'm satisfied.
Glad they’re doing more of these
GLaD
I’m so glad IGN has a soft spot for Valve, so we get glorious content like this.
On these Devs React videos you should also invite the speed runner you are showcasing, or at least a runner who is familiar with the current tech so it can be explained.
"We fixed that later."
Sorry to say, but there's definitely video of accb-hopping in the engine Alyx uses kicking around.
I’m not sure what movement tech still works in Alyx’s engine or not, but ABH specifically doesn’t work in every version of the Source engine after Portal and HL2E2 as far as I’m aware. B-hopping works to varying degrees of success in later games but ABH doesn’t, which is what they were referring too.
The guy upset about dialogue skipping is about to implement unskippable dialogue in later games 😂
Created a monster
These guys need to watch the Msushi / Can't Even explanations on how these runs work, it would blow their minds.
It's always so funny how fast developers and creators of a game forget everything about the game when shown how to destroy it in seconds lol
16:50 "it sped things up.. which mattered in 2008"
Oh my that made me feel old.. Portal is 13 years old now...
can we have this same team rewatch this but with a speedrunner explaining everything going on?
Erik learning about accelerated backhopping was hilarious
Note to self: don’t try to stop speed runners, they ALWAYS find a way
They sounded just a teeny little disappointed when he skipped incinerating the Companion Cube at 8:16 😂😂
On the heartrate thing.
140 is high for sitting still, but it's not super bad. That'd be mostly normal if he was excersizing. iirc its 180+ or 200+ when you worry about strokes/cardiac problems.
Probably not healthy, but pretty reasonable.
They literally do not know what to say 😂
LMAO YEAH
0:45 seconds in, and you know he is gonna be hurt the most from this speedrun
This show is one of the best things on YT
Hope they do the glitched one too, the one thats like 5 or10 minutes, their minds gonna blow.
Wait do you have a link?
you mean a TAS?
whenever a speed runner sees all green on his cuts the tension rises fast.
most of the portal speedruns look the same up to getting the portal gun.
Shout out to the writer adding all he can to the video
The Devs should watch the explanations of the tech used in these runs. I'd love to hear what they think of how people "broke" the game.
"Now you're thinking with Port-"
no
no wait
not like that
stop
please
no
Love that man said he hasn't found away of way off skipping the lifts yeah but he did skip all the stuff you spent your hard time on
Poor Erik. Hes just like us, clueles about everything
The stuff he did with the portals and the cake at the end of the Inbounds run was after the run had finished, so that out of bounds stuff is allowed, it's just something some speedrunners do for fun (and to flex their skills).
140 is perfectly survivable. Saying this as someone who has anxiety and regularly has heart rate over 100 because of it.
it's fine so long as it isn't for a prolonged period of time, and you're under 80
Its amazing how incomprehensible portal speedruns look
3:45 This is the second time I've heard a developer sound really victorious when the speedrunner hits a scene that you just have to sit and wait to play through. Other one was in a Cuphead walkthrough, the scoff out of the developer was transcendental.
It brings a special joy to my heart every time one of these videos are made, but a little more of a special something when they involve Valve devs.
4:52 bro didn't know he was watching an inbounds speedrun 💀
Dev's a lil message: an Accelerated Back Hop (short ABH) is a way to duplicate the velocity up to 3000.
The save load is being used to clip (go through something).
And to be more confused watch a TAS playing portal 1
You guys need to also invite someone from the speedrun community to help explain some of those tricks because it's not that much fun when the devs get completely confused to what is going on the screen, like the save/load portal glitches they used on this run.
You’d swear these guys have never seen this game before the way their cometary went 😂
8:22 CONFIRMED COMPANION CUBES ARE ALIVE , the dev said he skipped killing the companion cube , you cant kill something that doesn't have life you destroy it , as in you cant kill objects
The first move is iconic, it actually makes you move faster walking backwards in source engine.
Cool, dev reactions to speedruns are fun to watch. I'm just as curious as them as to why save/load functionality on a keybind is making an absolute mockery of the collisions
These are the best, great videos and content when the Developers watch Speedruns
(ninja edit: also when gamers show their inputs, love that stuff)
This pretty much turned into elevator simulator with brief intermissions of frantic movement
They should also invite a speedrunner to these sessions to explain some tricks to them
hell yah ive been waiting on this one, if they watch tas itll be like 8 mins long
if they watch all fullgame tases so far it would be around a half hour
Makes me appreciate the elevators a little but more, especially knowing they were notorious for the devs haha
Shoutouts to Jeep. Beep Beep. Love You.
yo tyler sup
Funny man watching ign
hello tyler mcvicker
take my kids
this game is so big in my mind (idk how else to phrase that, important? mythical? a coore memory?) that its so weird but nice to hear the actual people who worked on it like wow this amazing creation didnt just start existing by the grace of a gaming god and human beings worked on it? damn who knew
I'm sure someone said it already but the crazy portal shooting just looks crazy because he uses a glitch to separate the camera and body of the player so he's actually shooting portals in other places of the map that he can't even see, just out of memory.
This was a triumph, I'm making a note here- huge success.
Oooooh, it could have be so funny to see them react to the airbot category xD. But very cool they saw those speedruns :D.
Can't believe they got in contact with these guys
I’ve been waiting for this
wouldve loved if you guys showed them the airboat speedrun
iirc, the no clip state gets corrected, but saving and loading can bypass the correcting, keeping you in a state where you can clip through walls
This sounds like the navy pilots discussing UFO they see on radar.
It's called devs react but they are too flabbergasted to react. Fully understandable
devs reacting is the best thing to happen since covid
watching devs who have no understanding of save glitch try to understand inbounds SLA and especially oob is extremely funny
actual devs not knowing that the backwards jumping thing exists in source after more than a decade is strange
4:54 they know well how to skip the elevators, but that isn't allowed in this category.
in Out Of Bounds (OOB) basically the whole run is teleporting from elevator to elevator.
(This is Inbounds, where anything goes, except for placing portals out of bounds, or going out of bounds.)
Hahaha the script writer saying, well he's missing a lot of dialogue. Haha
es ist so schön zu sehen wie die gehirne hinter portal auf sowas reagieren... alle valve developer sind so sympathisch und lustig drauf. wirklich klasse
Developers : "we'll teach you how to build it"
Speedrun : "we'll teach you how to break it"
Imagine watching someone completely demolishing your child. Bro this is brutal
Nostalgic
They def should have had a speedrunner on to explain what's happening
Haha, love how the guy throws out Earthworm Jim, old school represent!!
Earthworm Jim was awesome
1:27 "That was too fast" ooooh boy you're not ready
A lot of these skips are by shooting portals through the level and save/loading quickly to prevent them from disappearing due to the fields
It cracks me up that in a world where you are literally creating and walking through portals your goal is to make it to an elevator
"killing the companion cube" 8:20 is that so... they ARE alive
10:54 He turned into a curiosity Core
The save glitch it's a powerful glitch. If you save and load at the edge of a hit or of the portal you can walk through some walls and shoot portals out of bounds.Check out Mshushi
To be fair here, they should have included the TAS record at the end. Since that is even faster.