I am a 75 year old woman and when I first saw Elon's salute my hand went to my mouth in full horror. Nobody is fooled by the excuses. It wwas what it was.
I am 67 and grateful that my WWII, Depression Era parents are not alive to see this sh*t. I knew as a ten year old kid what that gesture meant. There's no mistaking. Spitting on the graves of all before us who fought for America.
Even in the west indies folk grew up in school knowing about the hitler salute it was his feelings from his heart its about dominance the whole bunch of them at the top
Elon's father said he was named after the character in nazi scientist Werner Von Braun, Mars colony fiction novel. The Elon was the dictator of the colony & surrounded himself with technocrats, scientist & engineers. The parallel is interesting. Also Musk's grandfather was one of the leaders of the Technocracy Movement banned in Canada during WWII for supporting nazis. Look it up, I'm not making any of this up! It's just mind blowing!
Absolutely. We all know that. People haven't accidentally done that salute since the world knew about Nazis. He knew what he was doing. Blaming it on ASD is disgusting. I don't understand how people can think it wasn't intentional.
Exactly, and he claims Asperges, placing him in a high functional level. He was never formally diagnosed he is self-diagnosed, I doubt he is even on the spectrum. He is just crazy.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me. -Martin Niemöller
First they came for the progressives. Then they came for the Liberals. When they they came for the Conservatives, they all sold out. Elon bought a government, run by a dictator, who is threatening to take my country of Canada over. I wouldn't worry about Elon worrying about a person's ethnicity over a person's social class.
Racism has skyrocketed over the last decade with Trump and I can't imagine how much worse it's going to get!! Elon did that gesture with passion. It was deliberate.
Elon's TASTELESS joke shows that the Salute he made that night WAS a Fascist Salute, and that the complete fiction of a Roman salute (which was created in 1784 in a painting, NOT in the Roman era) has vanished into nothingness.
@@christinebuckingham8369 Netanyahu should choose his friends more wisely, Musk will turn on him like the Nazis turned on the Jews, and other minorities we often forget.
In a panel with other tech guys he was on, Elon said his citizenship was 'in a grey area'. WTH does that mean? Is this his current status or when did he become a citizen?
It’s because the ADL only exists to protect Israel. The organization is wholly unconcerned with combatting genuine antisemitism SO LONG AS the antisemites continue to fund Israel’s nonstop crimes against humanity.
I agree, wish I could afford to move. We're infiltrated with Maga morons & they're ruining our country. I used to be proud to be an American, but not since the orange monster came to power, now I'm so embarrassed & ashamed to be an American.
As an autistic person, I have a high sense of justice and Elon is completely horrifying as a person. Some do not believe he is even on the spectrum but regardless, he seems to find joy in irritating and harming others.
It's darkly ironic that the people who excuse him by claiming it's down to his being autistic are the same people who would have put people with autism into the camps back in the 30s and 40s.
I doubt he is on the spectrum. As you rightly stated, there are an overwhelming percentage of people on the spectrum with a high sense of justice. What Musk is leaning into is Dunning-Kruger with a heavy dose of sociopathy. Cruelty, self-opinionated, vindictive and power orientated.
He was being investigated before he interfered with the last election. I think he sides with maga because he knew that all investigations of his wrongful actions would cease when donnie got back in office. We are in big trouble if we don't fight back.
I’m mortified for people like your uncle, people who put their lives on the line to take down the Nazis. They should never have to look at sh!t like that again. None of us should.
@@normatrent2434 there is a lot of silent film footage taken by the allies when some camps were finally liberated. It is astonishing what humans will do to other humans, and all based on some lunatic's order.
I am Black and so blue in the NOW red state of Ohio. I feel unsafe, and much much worse for the migrants that work with me on a daily basis. They work much much harder than me and the other native born Americans and often times make far far less. I cannot stand the hatred!
@@lisaagoston5162The civil workers in police and firefighters act tough but are cowards and proudly swing towards who ever has power. Actually, that’s not true. They always swing right. They just get more aggressive with their wrong and intentional actions, behaviors and beliefs when a bully like trump give them permission. I had the sheriffs office threaten me on behalf of the abusive, religious church I escaped because… they are the people that vote right wing a holes in. I will never stop resisting, setting boundaries against right wing terrors. Sadly with trump in power again the sheriffs office will be emboldened to make protesting harder again. They are bigots and proud ignorants.
This is outrageous! As a German-Italian, my grandparents fled Germany during WWII, losing everything-including many beloved family members. The shamefulness of this cannot be overstated. As Karl Marx once said, “History repeats itself, first as tragedy, then as farce.” Now more than ever, we must unite and stand firmly for what is right.
He loves pissing of a billions of people. He's high on power. If COURSE he knows what he's doing. Hopefully someone like Luigi will send THEIR heart out to HIM.❤
Absolutely intentional. The Nazi salute was directed at Nazi sympathizers around the world ... to give them permission to go forward with their hate ... on his behalf. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing.
Of course. These people have made it feel normal to take off the heavy coat of civility and just be animals. Most people have no illusions about the goal of Musk and Co. The majority of Americans gleefully voted for it. Sadly, in 4 months Australia will be where you are now.
When someone shows you who they are,believe them. Seriously fck him after that post,he is a scumbag, if it was actually a " mistake" he would of tried to make amends and make it right to the world with humilty.
The salute was one thing the contorsion of his face was another.Yes it was a Nazi salute. Yes the Nazi machine is still in motion after idling since WW2.
Look we grew up on every WWII picture ever made, from The Battle Of The Bulge to Inglorious Bastards. Everyone in America knows exactly what a NAZI salute is. Musk did it twice.
This is an analysis of what Musk is doing: **It’s a kind of poker triple play: provoke outrage, trivialize accusations of extremism, and subtly empower far-right ideologies under the guise of satire or defiance.
@@helmutschillinger3140 hes not that calculated he literally cant control himself in those moments, "drunk with power" and when youre drunk you say whats on your chest that you normally wouldnt, the truth comes out.
@@narachi- so you are excusing him, because he was not aware of what he was doing? He was totally aware of what that gesture means! He did it twice! Are you one of those Musk apologizes when he fucks up? But otherwise he his is such a genius… right! Wow, you are far down that rabbit hole.
This is one of the most important discussions IHIP has ever had. Well done! All the love. All the props. Nuance feels like a lost aspect of our daily analysis. Y’all please keep bringing it the way you have. We need you now more than ever. 💓💪
He interfers with politics in Eu supporting the far right parties. He know Exactly what he did and he did it on purpose infront of the whole world. Everybody stop making excuses.
Bless you for your service, I'm a 65 year old liberal white guy and nurse working at a large VA hospital in the US Midwest and it's just maddening and disgusting to see this slide into fascism in the US. I'm glad my veteran dad didn't live to see this, and he was a Reagan supporter. When Bush and Cheney came along in 2000 that was it for Pop! 🤬
Sane washing the ugly truth. His facial expressions reveal as much as the salute. He knows exactly what he did, and plainly thinks that everyone except him are stupid
That’s why he’s in pocket with Trump the POOTUS, so he can secure even more government funding to take advantage of scamming money fresh off the press. He doesn’t want small consumer funding, he wants big military and government money (and not just American either, I have zero doubts that he’s getting paid 🇷🇺 Rubles too).
The fact they tried to blame an intentional gesture on his Autism makes me sick. This dude makes cars. He knows what he’s doing. He planned to do that. No one accidentally does that gesture or stems that gesture.
@@Megdraculahe doesn’t even make cars. He bought a company that already made cars. I know it’s a petty difference to point out, but I’m sick to death with people worshipping him like he’s the next Stephen Hawking when he’s just the tech bro version of Bezos.
Absolutely. We are justice warriors and the Holocaust, like the Khmer Rouge massacres and Palestinian genocide, are one of the biggest injustices in history.
@ I don’t gaf about him or know one thing about him honestly my whole point was he’s smart enough to know what he was doing on that stage. We saw it and we know what it meant. Period.
There is a video interview of his dad who spoke about that Elon mother's family moved to South Africa because of wanting to be in a country that valued white supremacy.
They left Canada for NAZI South Africa. He also said his ex, Musk´s mom was STILL very much a Nazi. That her parents was NOT happy she married him. Musk´s dad aint clean either. He owns or did own BLOOD DIAMOND MINE. So .......
@@cswatman8611I’m Canadian too. But her parents took her to South Africa because their Nazi belief system fit in much better there. His mother is a complete nut case.
I happened to visit the Imperial War Museum in London. There is a room dedicated to documenting how the Nazi regime in Germany treated not only the Jewish community but native German people as well. The Nazi regime killed as many Germans (6M) for a number of reasons; opponents, people with disabilities, people with conditions, "unfit" persons, etc. This far right administration (MAGA) is showing a similar trend; immigrants, LGBTQ community, women, people with disabilities, opponents and the list goes on, will be targeted. Things will turn very bad once the people in general start to understand what is going on, when they realize that their situation will begin to change for the worst meaning everything from their cost of living going down, their health care disappearing completely, etc. A Naziish regime would eliminate the "trouble makers", the protesters, the inconvenient people. How will they actually do it from now on? I guess we'll have a clearer idea very soon. It is sad. Dark days ahead.
YES. Pardoning the January 6ths, the ppl who blocked clinics, and the salute have all been dog whistles letting supporters know they can do what they want to non supporters and there will be no consequences
I have enjoyed listening to you two for a while but I must say I wasn't aware of your intellectual clarity until recently. Brava! Love you two. Keep speaking truth.
That was a very normal reaction to something we KNOW as evil. They will say we don't see what we see i am bipolar, and a narcissist will grab on to that, and try to make me think what i see with my eyes is not really there. Recently i was told i had "imagined" the eggnog i drank. That there was no eggnog, it was "milk". Why? Because the person did not want to share their little carton of eggnog and they moved it to a second refrigerator and straight up LIED to me about its existence! It was easier to lie than just admit they were being selfish.
My father fought in WW2 and he would roll over in his grave if he could see what Americans voted into office! I have no idea what his politics were because his generation didn’t talk about it.
Same here, my dad fought in Korea which was a very questionable "war" and I think he knew it... But his service still meant a lot to him and it helped in his development as a Young man
Honestly, it's sickening to see this happening and the fact that no one has the gall enough to put a stop to the fascism is exactly who America is. To the ones of you that "sat this one out"... This is on YOU! It's your fault we're where we are now.
I understand the temptation to assign blame, and wouldn’t it be convenient if the explanation were that simple? But please don’t resort to reactionary finger pointing. We need everyone to keep their wits about them. The fact is that There are NO single causal issues. Sure the people who didn’t vote Effectively HELPed get Dissident Drunk re-installed, but wait...What about Russia? China? Hungary? A dozen Billionaires? Smug Democrat elites who ignored the Working Poor and dismissed the sincere protests of the heartbroken? Etc? It was a “perfect storm” if anything. Please resist the urge to start fights with people who share your values, “Peace_LoveMuzic".
If Musk doesn't have the mental acuity to take responsibility for this "awkward gesture", then he cannot be trusted with government business. His childish response just proves this beyond a doubt. Or did he not understand how a keyboard works and just randomly hit keys not knowing what would come out?
I’m on the spectrum and many of us have more empathy, compassion, and discernment than that. He’s simply corrupted by his megalomania, power, narcissism, grandiosity, and obscene wealth which he believes makes him untouchable.
You are so right, and can you see how fatigued we are (on the aggregate)? I am half appalled and half expect how society is behaving. It has been creeping since 2014 or maybe a little earlier, but Trump and his MAGA regime took it full speed to full on Nazism. My biological father was 20 years older than my mother. He was a WWII Vet, who was one of the D day guys, and in the unit that freed Dacu. I recently took out this big trunk of his lifetime writings. A lot was about the war, one was about the freeing of Dacu and how he lost faith in humanity, as he witnessed unthinkable atrocities , and the next day he had to sit in the same church and pray next to the German soldiers who took part. Very powerful… also.. powerful and prescient was the section where he wrote that he was certain that someday the world would minimize it, many would deny it, and his fear that a repeat of something in the same overall spirit of hate would happen in a few generations. Of course, things in the spirit of hate have happened in many places, but we are now the country coming way too close to comfort . The big mistake many people make is not understanding that just because the exact same thing will not happen here, does not mean the signs that a very similar natured phenomenon could very well happen here, or anywhere. It is the whole, history may not repeat itself but it does rhyme. The thing about this is… a metaphorical rhyme it is easier to ignore than when it is the exact same thing.
I found out years after that my high school sweetheart and the father of my child,his father was a German Jew. His family emigrated to Canada and never acknowledged there heritage again. I was and am heartbroken. My own identity was taken from me. I'm a 60s Scoop Survivor. The government's way of removing indigenous identity to make us white. And here we are again trying to make the world white 😢
Elon Musk trying to act like a teenage edge lord. He deliberately did what he did. Celine Dion has thrown her heart to the audience for decades. Never once mistaken for a salute.
So has Elon Musk in the past and it’s on video on RUclips. Not even a TINY bit similar to the Nazi salute he did. There is no way to blame his awkwardness or autism on this. All those making excuses for him are either lying or in denial.
He’ll say “I never saw it. I didn’t have anything to do with it. I never met Hitler but I bet he would be a fan of me, all great world leaders love me.”
He’s such a pos he hasn’t even said anything himself as to whether or not it was a salute. Posting a joke clearly about it shows that he knows exactly what he did and he loves that he was able to do it and allow these idiots to defend him and get away with it. I hate this freaking timeline I swear to god
This idiot is still with the Charlottesville thing? Trump said that very day "not the neo nazis and the white supremacists. They should be condemned totally."
While intelligent people are going back and forth on this issue, Musk is just basking in the attention, just like Trump, and he's laughing his ass off.
I'm a 63 year old British guy who grew up looking up to the USA as the city on the hill that Reagan described. I watched the moon landings, as an eight year old boy and was awestruck. All these years later I'm just numb at what is happening in that city on the hill. Keep it up ladies we need you to keep calling this truly awful man out.
If you believed Reagan-after Goldwater the founder of what the modern Rep.party is with his rascism,lies etc etc-presumably you were a Thatcherite too.
Why apologize for something that was deliberately done! I have a friend here that is from from Germany and she said he would be arrested on sight! Now I wonder how Zuckerberg feels?!
It’s very strange people are using that as an excuse for him. As if all people on the spectrum are oblivious and/or socially inept or at the very least void of empathy. Also, as if all autistic people define their autism as a “suffering” experience but that’s a different convo.
And that in itself is also a myth (in regards to people with Aspergers lacking empathy) People misdiagnose aspd with asd. You can't be both due to differences in empathy. People with aspergers have so much empathy they dont know what to do with it and often shut down. See intense world theory and double empathy problem. That's why we have people like Greta Thunberg and Temple Grandin! @@nahimgood4
As soon as he did the second one my jaw dropped . It’s like when the second plane hit the other tower, we knew it was no accident. He is deplorable and also an insult to my nephew and those who are autistic, them trying to use that as an excuse. He isn’t the richest man in the world because he’s “dumb” he knew exactly what he was doing.
Almost all Americans, whose families have been here a few generations, have an ancestor who fought fascism overseas so we wouldn't have to fight it here.
I am a 75 year old woman and when I first saw Elon's salute my hand went to my mouth in full horror. Nobody is fooled by the excuses. It wwas what it was.
No reasonable person was fooled
I am 67 and grateful that my WWII, Depression Era parents are not alive to see this sh*t. I knew as a ten year old kid what that gesture meant. There's no mistaking. Spitting on the graves of all before us who fought for America.
Even in the west indies folk grew up in school knowing about the hitler salute it was his feelings from his heart its about dominance the whole bunch of them at the top
Elon's father said he was named after the character in nazi scientist Werner Von Braun, Mars colony fiction novel. The Elon was the dictator of the colony & surrounded himself with technocrats, scientist & engineers. The parallel is interesting. Also Musk's grandfather was one of the leaders of the Technocracy Movement banned in Canada during WWII for supporting nazis. Look it up, I'm not making any of this up! It's just mind blowing!
me too, I’m a German and I almost had to 🤮 the horror of the past should never come back. NEVER!
Narcissists NEVER apologize because they NEVER think they are wrong.
True. So who is a narcissist?
@@dlariby Elon is and so is Trump, clearly. Why are you playing stupid?
Karma 1.2 million Teslas recalled.
I have been literally waiting for 45 years to witness a republican admit to being wrong! They can’t and won’t! They are to much in denial!
@@dlaribytrumpy, musky, the gop!
Stop buying Tesla and cancel your X account.
i know that rocket can't be too cheap
at least he caught the booster !
I did
I don’t have a Tesla I don’t use X
I am doing an EV conversion, and I am no longer considering Tesla parts. It has made my conversion more costly and bit more challenging, but oh well.
And never buy Tesla shares
My son is on the autism spectrum and knows full well what a Nazi salute is. In no universe is this appropriately.
And he did it twice in case we didn't catch it the first time!
Absolutely. We all know that. People haven't accidentally done that salute since the world knew about Nazis. He knew what he was doing. Blaming it on ASD is disgusting. I don't understand how people can think it wasn't intentional.
Nazi salute because he might be autistic? How insulting @@crispy16
Exactly, and he claims Asperges, placing him in a high functional level. He was never formally diagnosed he is self-diagnosed, I doubt he is even on the spectrum. He is just crazy.
@jennifervasquez251 and the people applauded, that is even worse.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me.
-Martin Niemöller
I have been looking for this quote. Been on my mind a lot lately.
First they came for the progressives.
Then they came for the Liberals.
When they they came for the Conservatives, they all sold out.
Elon bought a government, run by a dictator, who is threatening to take my country of Canada over. I wouldn't worry about Elon worrying about a person's ethnicity over a person's social class.
Racism has skyrocketed over the last decade with Trump and I can't imagine how much worse it's going to get!! Elon did that gesture with passion. It was deliberate.
And the face said it
You could hear the smack he made to his chest too. He planned to do that. And did it more than once.
How are you measuring racism?
@@MatthewSmith-j1l - - Overt Nazi Symbolism is high on the list .
Elon's TASTELESS joke shows that the Salute he made that night WAS a Fascist Salute, and that the complete fiction of a Roman salute (which was created in 1784 in a painting, NOT in the Roman era) has vanished into nothingness.
I am a Jew. This salute is unacceptable. Shame on the ADL.
Thank you!
I’ve read that Netanyahu also “supports” Elon Musk too! We are in the Upside Down World Now or an Orwellian 1984!
Blacks been telling Jess the ADL is crap.
@@christinebuckingham8369 Netanyahu should choose his friends more wisely, Musk will turn on him like the Nazis turned on the Jews, and other minorities we often forget.
@@christinebuckingham8369 Netanyahu always supported far right parties in Europe, it isn't a surprise to me.
Elon should NOT even be in our Country in our Government period. Shame on our Country and Government for letting this happen.
He was open in the past about being an illegal immigrant by overstaying his visa. This is shameful‼️
It called money!😢
Elonia is shameless.
Call ICE on him and his brother his brother admitted on video that they were illegally in America
In a panel with other tech guys he was on, Elon said his citizenship was 'in a grey area'. WTH does that mean? Is this his current status or when did he become a citizen?
The ADL should be condemning this and Elon, not condoning it or protecting him!
As weak as.... .
Musk has an emotional maturity of a 14 year old. Silly, dangerous kid with money.
That’s what happens to people when they’re coddled from birth with wealth. Just look at Madame President Trump.
I sure hope Tesla gets boycotted bigtime.
Unfortunately, I work for a company that makes microchips for electric cars. Its not our fault. This might hurt our business.
@@CBT5777 I pray somebother company will pick up the slack.
Driving tesla in 2025 says “i’m just a little nobody anonymous slave so what do i know or care about politic i need to be led by a firm hand”
Well, the new Tesla Y was not received well in the comments on a Dutch youtube channel. The Netherlands is a big market for Tesla.
I'm beginning to distrust my neighbors who drive Tesla
Germans are sick of him.
As a German I agree with your comment
Gib Nazis keine Chance
Not only Germans, the whole of Europe is sick of him, i can tell you.
Not all Germans are sick pf him. he is funding neo nazi l9ving far right political groups in Germany and other countries
Once might be an accident, twice is a message!
Absolutely no mistake! Apparently his grandfather was involved in Nazi politics in South Africa ( I believe)
Exactly
He had me on the first one.
Trump grandparents are Germans ? 😮😮😮😮. I don't know why ..😢
When white supremacists and racist groups say it was a Nazi salute well..........
Both Trump and Musk have the same level of empathy as a crocodile
A crocodile has more empathy!
@@paprika4781 Beat me to it.
@@davidcopson5800 😊
Unfair comparison for the crocodile 🐊
You're insulting the croc
Not only did he do a Nazi salute he did it standing at the presidential podium right in front of Trum 😳
Apparently, even the ADL has sold out to the Maga.
It’s because the ADL only exists to protect Israel. The organization is wholly unconcerned with combatting genuine antisemitism SO LONG AS the antisemites continue to fund Israel’s nonstop crimes against humanity.
I wonder if Greenblatt believes it was a Nazi salute now? Ketamine Boy made him bend the knee without asking and now he’s playing in his face. smh.
All the ADL cares about is Israel
They’ve certainly lost their moral high ground. I’m sure that they are familiar with the AFD position on the Holocoust.
Yes, isn't it astounding. Are they trying to stay on t-rump's good side so he will benefit Israel?
The U.S. has become the world joke. It’s a terrible place. Never thought I’d say that!
true
I agree, wish I could afford to move. We're infiltrated with Maga morons & they're ruining our country. I used to be proud to be an American, but not since the orange monster came to power, now I'm so embarrassed & ashamed to be an American.
As an autistic person, I have a high sense of justice and Elon is completely horrifying as a person. Some do not believe he is even on the spectrum but regardless, he seems to find joy in irritating and harming others.
It's darkly ironic that the people who excuse him by claiming it's down to his being autistic are the same people who would have put people with autism into the camps back in the 30s and 40s.
I doubt he is on the spectrum. As you rightly stated, there are an overwhelming percentage of people on the spectrum with a high sense of justice. What Musk is leaning into is Dunning-Kruger with a heavy dose of sociopathy. Cruelty, self-opinionated, vindictive and power orientated.
@tantatheindian7068 great point! He gets off on hurting others.
I think that is his psychopathy.
Being ultrawealthy and catered to has a way of corrupting.
For every single soul who suffered in these camps, this is completely unacceptable! This is like spitting on their memory! It pains me to no end!
Jews, black people, desperate poor immigrants - Musk lacks the humanity to relate to anyone but himself. Just like Trump.
Why isn't Elon Musk being investigated? "#dump basically spilled the beans about Musk and those computers!
He was being investigated before he interfered with the last election.
I think he sides with maga because he knew that all investigations of his wrongful actions would cease when donnie got back in office.
We are in big trouble if we don't fight back.
I had an uncle who liberated a prison camp in Germany. He was mortified.
I’m mortified for people like your uncle, people who put their lives on the line to take down the Nazis. They should never have to look at sh!t like that again. None of us should.
Thank you for sharing that.
I don't blame him just wrong and Shameful
You're lying.
@@normatrent2434 there is a lot of silent film footage taken by the allies when some camps were finally liberated. It is astonishing what humans will do to other humans, and all based on some lunatic's order.
I am Black and so blue in the NOW red state of Ohio. I feel unsafe, and much much worse for the migrants that work with me on a daily basis. They work much much harder than me and the other native born Americans and often times make far far less. I cannot stand the hatred!
A good thing that you speak out. Well done. Respect your honesty. You have a heart !
❤️ Sending love your way. The hatred is disgusting.
Fellow Ohioans here. We've been a red state for awhile now. I don't understand all the firefighters and union people who back him.
@@lisaagoston5162The civil workers in police and firefighters act tough but are cowards and proudly swing towards who ever has power. Actually, that’s not true. They always swing right. They just get more aggressive with their wrong and intentional actions, behaviors and beliefs when a bully like trump give them permission. I had the sheriffs office threaten me on behalf of the abusive, religious church I escaped because… they are the people that vote right wing a holes in. I will never stop resisting, setting boundaries against right wing terrors. Sadly with trump in power again the sheriffs office will be emboldened to make protesting harder again. They are bigots and proud ignorants.
I am so disgusted by the lack of empathy so many have shown they have. I hope you stay safe.
My instinct is ADL accepted a donation or ‘financial contribution’ from Herr Musk. There’s something off.
He obviously doesn’t understand that Dutch is NOT Deutsch. Herr is not for him either.
ADL is a PunkAss along With Merrick Garland
Your observation is very astute.
Exactly! AIPAC Lobbyists Paid him off probably too!
They literally cause Whoopi to be suspended for a week
This is outrageous! As a German-Italian, my grandparents fled Germany during WWII, losing everything-including many beloved family members. The shamefulness of this cannot be overstated. As Karl Marx once said, “History repeats itself, first as tragedy, then as farce.” Now more than ever, we must unite and stand firmly for what is right.
He loves pissing of a billions of people. He's high on power. If COURSE he knows what he's doing. Hopefully someone like Luigi will send THEIR heart out to HIM.❤
✊🏻
Absolutely intentional. The Nazi salute was directed at Nazi sympathizers around the world ... to give them permission to go forward with their hate ... on his behalf. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing.
THIS!
Musk wanted to encourage fanatics ....... he succeeded .
Exactly 💯
Of course. These people have made it feel normal to take off the heavy coat of civility and just be animals. Most people have no illusions about the goal of Musk and Co. The majority of Americans gleefully voted for it. Sadly, in 4 months Australia will be where you are now.
When someone shows you who they are,believe them. Seriously fck him after that post,he is a scumbag, if it was actually a " mistake" he would of tried to make amends and make it right to the world with humilty.
I HATE MAGA
ME2
Even more than that. And I hate religion, because it make dumb people even dumber…
ME TO
America's browns hertz 🤚
Me 3
Impeach Trump and Deport Musk.
💯
Super Max for Treason
And he did it twice in case we didn't catch it the first time!
Musk needs to be locked up.
Keep calling them both out!
The salute was one thing the contorsion of his face was another.Yes it was a Nazi salute.
Yes the Nazi machine is still in motion after idling since WW2.
The tell was indeed his facial expression. It was fierce passion with an F You message.
I am terrified of what is going to happen in the next 4 years. This is one of the few times I'm glad I'm 77 y.o.
How are we still in the first week of this nightmare? It feels like it's at least been 14 years
Yes it's bn a long azz week!!
Yeah it has been right around a decade. They shit on the good man Joe Biden. America is ruined. But so the rest of the world will soon be too.
We need 8 more years of trump 😂
Keep on paddling, eventually we'll get where we're going
@@LibSlayer.1 NOT 🚫
When a person SHOWS you how they really feel BELIEVE them.
Unless they are lying. Then don’t believe them
Look we grew up on every WWII picture ever made, from The Battle Of The Bulge to Inglorious Bastards. Everyone in America knows exactly what a NAZI salute is. Musk did it twice.
This is an analysis of what Musk is doing: **It’s a kind of poker triple play: provoke outrage, trivialize accusations of extremism, and subtly empower far-right ideologies under the guise of satire or defiance.
@@helmutschillinger3140 hes not that calculated he literally cant control himself in those moments, "drunk with power" and when youre drunk you say whats on your chest that you normally wouldnt, the truth comes out.
@@narachi- so you are excusing him, because he was not aware of what he was doing? He was totally aware of what that gesture means! He did it twice! Are you one of those Musk apologizes when he fucks up? But otherwise he his is such a genius… right! Wow, you are far down that rabbit hole.
exactly!
Hollywood movies are not particularly accurate. Consider viewing actual documentaries.
Thank you ladies ,You are true friends to us and we appreciate you greatly.
This is one of the most important discussions IHIP has ever had. Well done! All the love. All the props. Nuance feels like a lost aspect of our daily analysis. Y’all please keep bringing it the way you have. We need you now more than ever. 💓💪
I'm german .... and I HATE that Musk supports Alice Weidel !!! (AfD)
Musk soll nie wieder in Europa rein kommen !
He interfers with politics in Eu supporting the far right parties. He know Exactly what he did and he did it on purpose infront of the whole world.
Everybody stop making excuses.
Fight the afd party in Germany, they are coming for your country too 😢
All of what is happening is absolutely insane
Even more than insane, more like catastrophic.😫😠
@@nikkibuckler5906This is all by design. Definitely.
Do not expect a billionaire to ever apologize, they don’t have it in them.
Especially a billionaire narcissist
Oligarchy....!!!!!!
Kleptocracy....!!!!!
Especially a communist who supports Apartheid. Maternal lineage moved from Canada to South Africa in support of Apartheid.
I’m not a billionaire and I don’t have it in me either.
Any republican!
Thank you ladies for your uncensored TRUTH ❤️❤️👍💯💪🖖🔥🔥🔥🔥💥
Rich people have no shame 😡😤😈 they're just greedy ambitious fools 😡😤
I was a nurse for 25 years with Canadian veterans. I take this personally
Bless you for your service, I'm a 65 year old liberal white guy and nurse working at a large VA hospital in the US Midwest and it's just maddening and disgusting to see this slide into fascism in the US. I'm glad my veteran dad didn't live to see this, and he was a Reagan supporter. When Bush and Cheney came along in 2000 that was it for Pop! 🤬
BOYCOTT TOXIC MUSK NOW!
Elon is such a creepy person
So is most of the GOP and many maga people
If we look back in history it never end well for that kind of poeple .💙💙
Sane washing the ugly truth. His facial expressions reveal as much as the salute. He knows exactly what he did, and plainly thinks that everyone except him are stupid
Why isn't he and his companies 100% cancelled already? What is happening to us?
Government gave him billions in funding though 😢.
That’s why he’s in pocket with Trump the POOTUS, so he can secure even more government funding to take advantage of scamming money fresh off the press. He doesn’t want small consumer funding, he wants big military and government money (and not just American either, I have zero doubts that he’s getting paid 🇷🇺 Rubles too).
They're not cancelled because Trump is president. Even if Biden had cancelled Musk's contracts, Trump would have just reinstated them. 🤨
My daughter is autistic, and learned about how terrible Hitler and Nazis were in elementary school. She would NEVER do that!!
The fact they tried to blame an intentional gesture on his Autism makes me sick. This dude makes cars. He knows what he’s doing. He planned to do that. No one accidentally does that gesture or stems that gesture.
@@Megdraculahe doesn’t even make cars. He bought a company that already made cars. I know it’s a petty difference to point out, but I’m sick to death with people worshipping him like he’s the next Stephen Hawking when he’s just the tech bro version of Bezos.
Absolutely. We are justice warriors and the Holocaust, like the Khmer Rouge massacres and Palestinian genocide, are one of the biggest injustices in history.
Well it wont be long before all that history will be destroyed and rewritten under Trumps new education system. 1984!
@ I don’t gaf about him or know one thing about him honestly my whole point was he’s smart enough to know what he was doing on that stage. We saw it and we know what it meant. Period.
There is a video interview of his dad who spoke about that Elon mother's family moved to South Africa because of wanting to be in a country that valued white supremacy.
And she’s supposed to be Canadian. As a Canadian here this is so embarrassing to learn.
They left Canada for NAZI South Africa. He also said his ex, Musk´s mom was STILL very much a Nazi. That her parents was NOT happy she married him. Musk´s dad aint clean either. He owns or did own BLOOD DIAMOND MINE. So .......
And as a disgusting side note: Elon's dad had sex with his own step daughter.
@@cswatman8611I’m Canadian too. But her parents took her to South Africa because their Nazi belief system fit in much better there. His mother is a complete nut case.
Oh yeah, Muskrat's bringing apartheid to 'Murikkka, he just misses it so much.
I happened to visit the Imperial War Museum in London. There is a room dedicated to documenting how the Nazi regime in Germany treated not only the Jewish community but native German people as well. The Nazi regime killed as many Germans (6M) for a number of reasons; opponents, people with disabilities, people with conditions, "unfit" persons, etc. This far right administration (MAGA) is showing a similar trend; immigrants, LGBTQ community, women, people with disabilities, opponents and the list goes on, will be targeted. Things will turn very bad once the people in general start to understand what is going on, when they realize that their situation will begin to change for the worst meaning everything from their cost of living going down, their health care disappearing completely, etc. A Naziish regime would eliminate the "trouble makers", the protesters, the inconvenient people. How will they actually do it from now on? I guess we'll have a clearer idea very soon. It is sad. Dark days ahead.
YES. Pardoning the January 6ths, the ppl who blocked clinics, and the salute have all been dog whistles letting supporters know they can do what they want to non supporters and there will be no consequences
I have enjoyed listening to you two for a while but I must say I wasn't aware of your intellectual clarity until recently. Brava! Love you two. Keep speaking truth.
Elon was announcing who he is. No "trolling", no "cos playing" .
Today has been horrid! Trump has affected just about every group in America.
Just remembering how hard they were trying to scrutinize Obama….now look how hard they try to overlook
Awkward gesture? No, no, no… that was a nazi salute. He is an awful person!!
Imagine having his wealth and power, and constantly behaving like an insecure teenage girl. It’s so pathetic.
Teenage girls have more dignity.
no, insecure prepubescent boy.. he has no compassion, he is not claimed by the feminine .. but yes PATHETIC
😮 that's insulting to teenage girls
@@catman0096 very. More like a middle school boy, I remember them having the same “edgy” humor
Teenage girls have more responsibility than musk (lower case intentional)
He is the worst of the worst
Well right after Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini and a bunch of others.
of course like most jews
Definitely, an absolute horror show, possibly more dangerous than Trump himself
He is bigly worster!
Ladies ill tell ya,this is the most sickening time in my 67 years, thanks for speaking for thousands of us.
When trump told people i dont care about you i care about your vote,it wasnt intentional,it wasFACT
Reminds a lot of people of Peter Sellars in Dr Strangelove who couldn’t stop his arm from seig heiling
I am on the autism spectrum and I had to throw up when I saw him give the Nazi salute.
And again when the crowd applauded.
That was a very normal reaction to something we KNOW as evil. They will say we don't see what we see i am bipolar, and a narcissist will grab on to that, and try to make me think what i see with my eyes is not really there. Recently i was told i had "imagined" the eggnog i drank. That there was no eggnog, it was "milk". Why? Because the person did not want to share their little carton of eggnog and they moved it to a second refrigerator and straight up LIED to me about its existence! It was easier to lie than just admit they were being selfish.
exactly all the "jokes" about him doing it being the "autism"??? Like no! wtf! no one else with autism is Sieg Heiling thats just HIM
My father fought in WW2 and he would roll over in his grave if he could see what Americans voted into office! I have no idea what his politics were because his generation didn’t talk about it.
I agree with you totally. My dad was a pow in WWII. Over 6ft tall. Came back weighing 85 lbs. Basicly a skeleton.
Same here, my dad fought in Korea which was a very questionable "war" and I think he knew it... But his service still meant a lot to him and it helped in his development as a Young man
@@lisaagoston5162oh wow, your dad was one of the greatest generation, may his memory always be a blessing to you 🙏
@J.M.-nb4gw thank you
Honestly, it's sickening to see this happening and the fact that no one has the gall enough to put a stop to the fascism is exactly who America is. To the ones of you that "sat this one out"... This is on YOU! It's your fault we're where we are now.
I understand the temptation to assign blame, and wouldn’t it be convenient if the explanation were that simple? But please don’t resort to reactionary finger pointing. We need everyone to keep their wits about them. The fact is that There are NO single causal issues. Sure the people who didn’t vote Effectively HELPed get Dissident Drunk re-installed, but wait...What about Russia? China? Hungary? A dozen Billionaires? Smug Democrat elites who ignored the Working Poor and dismissed the sincere protests of the heartbroken? Etc? It was a “perfect storm” if anything. Please resist the urge to start fights with people who share your values, “Peace_LoveMuzic".
simplistic. way more complicated than one cause. “Perfect storm” of factors.
If Musk doesn't have the mental acuity to take responsibility for this "awkward gesture", then he cannot be trusted with government business. His childish response just proves this beyond a doubt. Or did he not understand how a keyboard works and just randomly hit keys not knowing what would come out?
I’m on the spectrum and many of us have more empathy, compassion, and discernment than that. He’s simply corrupted by his megalomania, power, narcissism, grandiosity, and obscene wealth which he believes makes him untouchable.
I was shocked by the ADL reaction, Elon can be awkward and excited and still be a fascist.
Jarrod and Ivanka are Jews and they are quiet.
They are sell outs
In Germany, they would be the Jews that told where the others were.
😂@@Johnny-tt8zc
Pick me jews
🎯@@Johnny-tt8zc
Evil has won and it’s saying “Go ahead and try to stop me. You can’t”🙁
Ceaser thought so too😂.
You are so right, and can you see how fatigued we are (on the aggregate)? I am half appalled and half expect how society is behaving. It has been creeping since 2014 or maybe a little earlier, but Trump and his MAGA regime took it full speed to full on Nazism. My biological father was 20 years older than my mother. He was a WWII Vet, who was one of the D day guys, and in the unit that freed Dacu. I recently took out this big trunk of his lifetime writings. A lot was about the war, one was about the freeing of Dacu and how he lost faith in humanity, as he witnessed unthinkable atrocities , and the next day he had to sit in the same church and pray next to the German soldiers who took part.
Very powerful… also.. powerful and prescient was the section where he wrote that he was certain that someday the world would minimize it, many would deny it, and his fear that a repeat of something in the same overall spirit of hate would happen in a few generations. Of course, things in the spirit of hate have happened in many places, but we are now the country coming way too close to comfort . The big mistake many people make is not understanding that just because the exact same thing will not happen here, does not mean the signs that a very similar natured phenomenon could very well happen here, or anywhere.
It is the whole, history may not repeat itself but it does rhyme. The thing about this is… a metaphorical rhyme it is easier to ignore than when it is the exact same thing.
I found out years after that my high school sweetheart and the father of my child,his father was a German Jew. His family emigrated to Canada and never acknowledged there heritage again. I was and am heartbroken. My own identity was taken from me. I'm a 60s Scoop Survivor. The government's way of removing indigenous identity to make us white. And here we are again trying to make the world white 😢
Wallstreet is already pulling out of Tesla and it's only week 1. Sell sell sell!
Elon Musk trying to act like a teenage edge lord. He deliberately did what he did. Celine Dion has thrown her heart to the audience for decades. Never once mistaken for a salute.
So has Elon Musk in the past and it’s on video on RUclips. Not even a TINY bit similar to the Nazi salute he did. There is no way to blame his awkwardness or autism on this. All those making excuses for him are either lying or in denial.
Elon definitely had no friends in highschool. 😂
Awww now the ADL is offended by the jokes but not the salute🤦
My question is why aren’t more Jewish people speaking up about this?!?! I mean where is your voice? Where is your power?🤯
❤❤❤ can't say it enough...love you ladies!!❤❤
How come no reporter never asked Trump what he thought about Elon musk Nazi salute on his inauguration day?
Lose the press clearance
What's the use? He never tells the truth, anyway. This is the country now.
He’ll say “I never saw it. I didn’t have anything to do with it. I never met Hitler but I bet he would be a fan of me, all great world leaders love me.”
@@LiliarthanThat's exactly what I thought Trump would say. Just like his lie about Project 2025.
It wasn't a salute, you're just neurotic
Ladies thanks so much for calling this out. Hoping independent media will keep up the good fight bc it’s all we have left
He’s such a pos he hasn’t even said anything himself as to whether or not it was a salute.
Posting a joke clearly about it shows that he knows exactly what he did and he loves that he was able to do it and allow these idiots to defend him and get away with it.
I hate this freaking timeline I swear to god
This idiot is still with the Charlottesville thing? Trump said that very day "not the neo nazis and the white supremacists. They should be condemned totally."
And hearing the audience clapping made me sick. We’re headed right back to 1930’s
@Utube-s8m January 6th was about as real as pro wrestling.
@@Utube-s8m it was horrific and my grandfather and dad would be so bewildered by it all.
While intelligent people are going back and forth on this issue, Musk is just basking in the attention, just like Trump, and he's laughing his ass off.
Yep- the danger of what can happen by denying this behavior- hello- we've seen this happen in Germany
OMG
@@josefinajaime4550OMG indeed!
These guys think they can get away with “it” though.
I'm a 63 year old British guy who grew up looking up to the USA as the city on the hill that Reagan described. I watched the moon landings, as an eight year old boy and was awestruck. All these years later I'm just numb at what is happening in that city on the hill. Keep it up ladies we need you to keep calling this truly awful man out.
If you believed Reagan-after Goldwater the founder of what the modern Rep.party is with his rascism,lies etc etc-presumably you were a Thatcherite too.
Why apologize for something that was deliberately done! I have a friend here that is from from Germany and she said he would be arrested on sight! Now I wonder how Zuckerberg feels?!
I'm sure Zuck's fine with it. Kapo's gonna do what a kapo's gonna do, just so long as the leopards don't eat HIS face...
We need to boycott Fuckerberg.
Zuckerberg doesn't feel, boycott him.
already have!
He was so self delighted, that he did what he does in private. No question about it.
Oh yes, the noise he made it was very intentional and he enjoyed it..
The ADL didn't even condemn his jokes...?
ADL shame
He can't retract what he showed himself to be.
‘Suffer from Autism’ is a pretty damn gross antiquated phrase. Signed, Autistic
It’s very strange people are using that as an excuse for him. As if all people on the spectrum are oblivious and/or socially inept or at the very least void of empathy. Also, as if all autistic people define their autism as a “suffering” experience but that’s a different convo.
Co-signed.
And that in itself is also a myth (in regards to people with Aspergers lacking empathy) People misdiagnose aspd with asd. You can't be both due to differences in empathy. People with aspergers have so much empathy they dont know what to do with it and often shut down. See intense world theory and double empathy problem. That's why we have people like Greta Thunberg and Temple Grandin! @@nahimgood4
Why didn't Trump release the Epstein papers? He said he would but I knew he wouldn't.
So glad you’re finally talking about Palestine!! ❤
So he basically joked about the murderers of children and woman. Appalling
Awkward gesture, my arse! Gaslighters.
They really think we are straight up stupid!
And the inaction and complicity of the American people are providing this to be so
Well it seems to work
When a person shows who they are, believe them the first time.
Love the new pink glasses!
& Thank you -for all you both do!!!❤
As soon as he did the second one my jaw dropped . It’s like when the second plane hit the other tower, we knew it was no accident. He is deplorable and also an insult to my nephew and those who are autistic, them trying to use that as an excuse. He isn’t the richest man in the world because he’s “dumb” he knew exactly what he was doing.
No, he's the richest man in the world because he's ruthless.
Please send this man packing!
We know exactly what he did and he knows exactly what he did.
Excellent discussion!!
You both have great insight so please call out the gaslighting when you see it and speak it loud to the world!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I unfollowed Candace Owens after she also tried to gas light us about it
'Do not ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears!' ... Orwell
Almost all Americans, whose families have been here a few generations, have an ancestor who fought fascism overseas so we wouldn't have to fight it here.