Vodhr I forgot the fact that we have 3-D chess. Not to mention Alice Chess which brings in 2 boards. At this point the game of chess gets as confusing as time travel. If only there were time travel chess...
+Dinodino1453 I've been working on a chess variant for a few years which would make even Spock from Star Trek rip his hair out, and he's a 3D Chess Grandmaster. :)
we invented a completely different portal chess a few years ago. ours used two boards, and if the corresponding square on the other board was free, a piece swapped after it moved. if the square was occupied, however, telportation did not happen. the usual method of checkmate tended to involve putting the queen on the same square as the opposing king, since then any attempt to move it left it in check.
I'd have it so portals had to be moved and could only be moved every 3 or so turns, but after you move your traditional chess piece/turn. This would stop people from sitting on it and blocking it, and from just moving their portal around to skip their turn.
My son and I play with these rules: Portals (2): Start position: -3 spaces in front of same color Queen. Movement: - Portals move as kings and only into an empty square. - Players may only move their own color portal. Interaction: -A piece landing on a portal moves to the other portal. -A piece occupying a portal may move as though it occupies either portal. -A piece occupying a portal may be captured by landing on the other portal. -A piece moving across a portal continues its move at the other portal, in the same direction of the original move. -A piece may only move through one portal per turn. -A knight may only move through a portal by landing on it.
It's so awesome how amazing fans of portal are. For a video game, portal is pretty short, yet it has such a large and talented fanbase. Bravo to this vid, yet another reason why portal is cool.
Yes a lot of people seem to be getting confused by this basically all that happened there was I was demonstrating the portal acting as an obstical stoping the bishop from checking the king. The check after moving it through the portal was unintentional. Well spotted though
It would be cool to have the portals make whichever two tiles they´re sitting on become "the same tile" So a piece standing on any portal would be technically standing on both tiles and could move to any tile legally accessible if you were to move from any of the two portals. A piece standing on a tile from which it can move into a portal would be legally allowed to move to any tile accessible to it in a normal chess game, plus the tiles accessible by crossing the portal (maintaining, of course, the direction that the piece is moving on) You could use portals either offensively or defensively (for example, a king standing on a portal can only be checkmated if it can´t legally move to any tile around both portals. Also, given that the two portals act by "merging" the two tiles, if you control one of the portals, then you control both so when putting a king that's standing on a portal in check, the king can't just "teleport" to the other portal since the other portal's tile IS the same tile as the one the king's standing on.) I feel like this is the simplest way to make the game work since the only rule added (apart from portal movement) is that "whichever two tiles are occupied by a portal become the same tile"
So we've seen videos with portals made by Adobe After Effects and other programs with the same use. This was by far the most realistic idea using portals. The human mind will use table games, such as the Naval War, and much more, where it'd be good to Think with Portals. Loved this idea and I'm looking forward for more developing from the Chess Station at the Aperture Labs.
I have been thinking about that myself. GLaDOS is definitely the queen figure but i was thinking of having the turret king as the king , P body and Atlas as the bishops, the Companion cube as the rooks, Turrets as Pawns. Chell and Cave Johnson would be the Knights so i would have them on horse back, Chell with a portal gun in her hands and in Cave Johnsons, a lemon granade.
You could try that, but you would be opening yourself up for an attack and because you don't control the opponents portal you can't control where the pieces will exit. The portal piece only posses the power to teleport pieces and move like a king.
I decided personally yes and its included in the infoto in description but that is one of those grey areas that should be decided on before a game begins. Great question.
The right-most corner from each players' side is supposed to be a light square and not a dark square. The white player is supposed to play with his king on the right side of the board. So your board orientation is wrong in the first place, turn it 90 degrees..
I was demonstrating the portal acting as an obstical stoping the bishop from checking the king. The check after moving it through the portal was unintentional. Well spotted though also Im guessing torpedey was referring to before the piece was moved.
im going to make custom figures to the this kind of chess I was thinking of the companion cube as the king, glados as queen, bishop= turret, pawn= walking turret ( turret with cube on its back from portal 2) , rook= orange portal bot, and the knight= blue portal bot and they would be colored coded, like the whites would be default and the opposing team would be black where white would be on the defaults
In quantum physics if two portals ie wormholes occupy the same space the results would be bad because two would create a feedback loop so it would create a massive release of energy probably similar to a nuclear explosion
The change that I would make is that a piece cannot rest on a portal, because it feels unnatural. Instead, all pieces that enter a portal must exit the other portal. I am not sure how this would affect the game.
actually either way the bishop went it would have still been check. at 1.58 he said that if it went through the first portal it wouldnt be check, but it is because the bishop would have checked the king from the other side
The board setup is wrong. From Wikipedia: "The chessboard is placed with a light square at the right-hand end of the rank nearest to each player, and the pieces are set out as shown in the diagram, with each queen on its own color." Here that "light square" is actually dark. Anyway, interesting idea.
I love this variant. I have one question? Is it legal for a bishop to change color if the portals define its path of travel from black to white squares (as example)?
I takethat it's not possible to castle trough as portal, right? Also, is en passant still possible if the pawn that moves 2 squares goes trough a portal? I think it should be.
Your initial board setup at 0:35 is incorrect. An easy to remember rule is "White on Right" meaning a white square must be the bottom right square when the player sits down to play. A dark square is on the bottom right as your setting up the portals. What difference does it make you ask? Look at your King and Queen. They are on the wrong squares. Technically, all the pieces are one the wrong squares, but it's most obvious to see by looking at the King and Queen. Remember: White on Right.
It feels so weird to see the board flipped like that, but it functions the same so it doesn't really matter. Typically the black player will the king as their left side and the white would have a right side king. If you care about this, you can get the right position by rotating the board 90 degrees. Edit: you probably learned that within the past 8 years...my bad
I know they're supposed to be just portals on the floor, but the way they're set up make me think of teleporters in TF2. So every time I capture an opponent's piece that was sitting on a portal, I'll just imagine my piece telefragging theirs. >:D
2 white pieces rest on both portals and black piece capture one of them and get teleported on next portal and capture 2nd piece and continues to his piece till his turn end Can this happen
wheatley as the king was attempted, but failed after a record number of games ended in imediate double check mate, as well as the pieces vanishing and later being found on the moon.
Also, just thought of an additional question - can you en passant a pawn that has promoted? Seeing how that rule was developed, it should be possible. These portals are making the game that much more complicated and fun at the same time. :D
Sé que esto es de hace 7 años, pero haré el intento de explicar cómo podría funcionar la captura al paso o "en passant". Primero vamos a dividir el movimiento del peón que precede a la captura al paso. Para que esta extraña forma de capturar se pueda realizar, el peón a capturar debe haber avanzado 2 casas (o casillas o escaques según como las llames) desde su posición inicial. En su recorrido vemos que empieza desde la casa inicial, pasa por la casa intermedia, y termina en la casa final. Debido a la presencia de los portales, puede darse una distorsión del espacio del tablero de ajedrez normal, lo que en otras palabras significa que las casas inicial, intermedia y final pueden no estar alineadas. Sin embargo, pese a que esto pueda confundir el cómo realizar la captura al paso, su esencia sigue siendo la misma. Entonces, tenemos al peón que acaba de mover dos casas, empezando en la inicial, pasando por la intermedia y terminando en la final. Al peón adversario lo único que ha de concertarle es la casa intermedia. Esto es lo que caracteriza a la captura al paso. En el ajedrez normal, el peón que capturare al paso debe estar sobre captura en el caso hipotético de que el peón a capturar no haya avanzado dos pasos, sino solo uno, habiendo detenidose en la mentada casa intermedia. Como consecuencia de esta, es neceser que el peón adversario deba estar en la quinta fila. Supóngase, un peón blanco en e2, portales en e3 y a7, un peón negro en d4. Si avanzase blanco su peón dos escaques, pasaría primero por el portal, que lo teletransportaría a a7, y luego, en su último paso, llegaría a a8 (y coronaría). La casa intermedia es a7 en este caso, haya avanzado solo un paso. Por lo tanto, negro puede capturar al paso a través del portal en e3, al peón coronado en a8. Un contraejemplo de cómo no se daría este caso sería el de un peón blanco en e2, portales en e3 y e6, peón negro en d7. El peón de d7 no podría capturar al paso, dado que solo atravesaría el portal de e6, y llegaría a e3, casilla que peón blanco, incluso en el hipotético caso de que solo se moviera un escaque, no habría pisado, porque se habría teletransportado a e6 en el proceso, casilla inaccesible para negro.
Im going to personaly say no you cant "castle" through a portal for now as it can only happen under strict enough rules already However "En passant" is a definite yes.
I'm not sure about the rule of moving portals into pieces to force move them, maybe portals should only move to free spaces, I'll have to experiment and see which works best... for science!
Now I am confused myself, there seems to definitely be an issue with the current rule set that i will fix. I have to think about this I will get back to you. Great question though keep them coming.
Good concept for a variant. Looks fun. But speaking of rules... 2:27 makes me think: the queen should be blocked by its own color piece... like if the portal exists there shouldn't be any option to slide past it.
that complicates things quite a bit. maybe you should try setting the pieces right first. namely, the king should be on the kingside, not the queenside (e1, not d1). you basically put each king as if it was black who played as white and white who played as black.
What if say a white piece was occupying a portal when a black piece went on top of the occupied portal. Does it capture the white and continue to move through or capture it and stay still or maybe it just just moves through without capturing? Also can a white portal for instance move on to a black piece or just onto it's own color?
The board is set up incorrectly-- white's rook in the right corner should be start off on the white square. Nice job on getting the queen and king on the right colors though... ;-)
Now there’s a possibility for bishops to be on the incorrect color square, which in all is pretty neat
Well, we have 3-person chess, and we have portal chess. Now we just have to combine the 2 and we have the perfect nerd game!
Oh god... the thought alone melts my brain... >.
Vodhr I forgot the fact that we have 3-D chess. Not to mention Alice Chess which brings in 2 boards.
At this point the game of chess gets as confusing as time travel. If only there were time travel chess...
+Dinodino1453 I've been working on a chess variant for a few years which would make even Spock from Star Trek rip his hair out, and he's a 3D Chess Grandmaster. :)
3 person, portal, 16x166x16 board chess
= mayhem and chaos
we invented a completely different portal chess a few years ago. ours used two boards, and if the corresponding square on the other board was free, a piece swapped after it moved. if the square was occupied, however, telportation did not happen. the usual method of checkmate tended to involve putting the queen on the same square as the opposing king, since then any attempt to move it left it in check.
I can't help myself: "Now you're thinking with portals"
We're all thinking about it, aren't we...
I hope this guy checks his channel now and then
I'd have it so portals had to be moved and could only be moved every 3 or so turns, but after you move your traditional chess piece/turn. This would stop people from sitting on it and blocking it, and from just moving their portal around to skip their turn.
Exactly
Welcome to the Algorithm boys.
My son and I play with these rules:
Portals (2):
Start position:
-3 spaces in front of same color Queen.
Movement:
- Portals move as kings and only into an empty square.
- Players may only move their own color portal.
Interaction:
-A piece landing on a portal moves to the other portal.
-A piece occupying a portal may move as though it occupies either portal.
-A piece occupying a portal may be captured by landing on the other portal.
-A piece moving across a portal continues its move at the other portal, in the same direction of the original move.
-A piece may only move through one portal per turn.
-A knight may only move through a portal by landing on it.
3:33
3:40 *N E I G H*
Your "Portal" ruleset add an interesting dimension to chess. Look forward to more of your ideas in the future.
It's so awesome how amazing fans of portal are. For a video game, portal is pretty short, yet it has such a large and talented fanbase. Bravo to this vid, yet another reason why portal is cool.
Really genius idea! That's really interessting how in that case a new tradition game can effect an old one.
1:52 the king is still check because the right diagonal side of the bishop is directly at the king so the king is still check
Yes a lot of people seem to be getting confused by this basically all that happened there was I was demonstrating the portal acting as an obstical stoping the bishop from checking the king. The check after moving it through the portal was unintentional. Well spotted though
It would be cool to have the portals make whichever two tiles they´re sitting on become "the same tile"
So a piece standing on any portal would be technically standing on both tiles and could move to any tile legally accessible if you were to move from any of the two portals.
A piece standing on a tile from which it can move into a portal would be legally allowed to move to any tile accessible to it in a normal chess game, plus the tiles accessible by crossing the portal (maintaining, of course, the direction that the piece is moving on)
You could use portals either offensively or defensively (for example, a king standing on a portal can only be checkmated if it can´t legally move to any tile around both portals. Also, given that the two portals act by "merging" the two tiles, if you control one of the portals, then you control both so when putting a king that's standing on a portal in check, the king can't just "teleport" to the other portal since the other portal's tile IS the same tile as the one the king's standing on.)
I feel like this is the simplest way to make the game work since the only rule added (apart from portal movement) is that "whichever two tiles are occupied by a portal become the same tile"
Presuming actually makes more sense, as it means to make a conclusion without evidence, while assume means to make a conclusion with little evidence.
So we've seen videos with portals made by Adobe After Effects and other programs with the same use. This was by far the most realistic idea using portals. The human mind will use table games, such as the Naval War, and much more, where it'd be good to Think with Portals. Loved this idea and I'm looking forward for more developing from the Chess Station at the Aperture Labs.
I have been thinking about that myself. GLaDOS is definitely the queen figure but i was thinking of having the turret king as the king , P body and Atlas as the bishops, the Companion cube as the rooks, Turrets as Pawns. Chell and Cave Johnson would be the Knights so i would have them on horse back, Chell with a portal gun in her hands and in Cave Johnsons, a lemon granade.
You could try that, but you would be opening yourself up for an attack and because you don't control the opponents portal you can't control where the pieces will exit. The portal piece only posses the power to teleport pieces and move like a king.
This was recommended to me in 2021
I searched for this XD
I decided personally yes and its included in the infoto in description but that is one of those grey areas that should be decided on before a game begins. Great question.
The right-most corner from each players' side is supposed to be a light square and not a dark square. The white player is supposed to play with his king on the right side of the board. So your board orientation is wrong in the first place, turn it 90 degrees..
1:50 It's still check because you can keep moving the bishop in the same direction
goodness sake, this thing is hacking my brain @@
Castling can be done only horizontally, so possible only if portals are placed at board edges.
I was demonstrating the portal acting as an obstical stoping the bishop from checking the king. The check after moving it through the portal was unintentional. Well spotted though also Im guessing torpedey was referring to before the piece was moved.
im going to make custom figures to the this kind of chess I was thinking of the companion cube as the king, glados as queen, bishop= turret, pawn= walking turret ( turret with cube on its back from portal 2) , rook= orange portal bot, and the knight= blue portal bot and they would be colored coded, like the whites would be default and the opposing team would be black where white would be on the defaults
In quantum physics if two portals ie wormholes occupy the same space the results would be bad because two would create a feedback loop so it would create a massive release of energy probably similar to a nuclear explosion
1:57 the king was still in check xD
Thank god someone else saw!!😆
how so?
are you sure?
No, its check on the end of the turn
The change that I would make is that a piece cannot rest on a portal, because it feels unnatural. Instead, all pieces that enter a portal must exit the other portal. I am not sure how this would affect the game.
actually either way the bishop went it would have still been check. at 1.58 he said that if it went through the first portal it wouldnt be check, but it is because the bishop would have checked the king from the other side
Thanks youtube algorythm for finally showing me something good :o
Same
"Good! ... G-o-o-o-o-d !!" (emperor Palpatine)
Right agreed changed rule set slightly. Thank you
NOW you're thinking with Portals
Suppose one player has a piece on each portal. Can the other player capture both pieces in one turn by moving onto the portal?
The board setup is wrong. From Wikipedia: "The chessboard is placed with a light square at the right-hand end of the rank nearest to each player, and the pieces are set out as shown in the diagram, with each queen on its own color." Here that "light square" is actually dark. Anyway, interesting idea.
I love this variant. I have one question? Is it legal for a bishop to change color if the portals define its path of travel from black to white squares (as example)?
I was thinking that too. Needs a rule so you can not move the portal on 2 consecutive turns
Does moving a portal take up a whole turn, or can you move a piece and a portal at the same time?
Have you tried playing the game its not that big of a problem?
I takethat it's not possible to castle trough as portal, right? Also, is en passant still possible if the pawn that moves 2 squares goes trough a portal? I think it should be.
You are a fucking genius !!!!
I love Portal...I love Chess, Portal Chees is a perfect combination
Your initial board setup at 0:35 is incorrect. An easy to remember rule is "White on Right" meaning a white square must be the bottom right square when the player sits down to play. A dark square is on the bottom right as your setting up the portals.
What difference does it make you ask? Look at your King and Queen. They are on the wrong squares. Technically, all the pieces are one the wrong squares, but it's most obvious to see by looking at the King and Queen.
Remember: White on Right.
Maybe this will get my little brother more interested in chess.
The portal pieces move like kings. One can only control their own coloured portal. I fail to see how the black portal can stop the checkmate.
That would be a negative but my favorite artist at the moment is Alex gray sooooo...........
It feels so weird to see the board flipped like that, but it functions the same so it doesn't really matter. Typically the black player will the king as their left side and the white would have a right side king. If you care about this, you can get the right position by rotating the board 90 degrees. Edit: you probably learned that within the past 8 years...my bad
One question: If both portal ends are occupied by black, what would happen if a white knight takes on the portal?
my right ear now knows how to play portal chess
Now you're thinking with portals.
Great to more chess versions
With the changed rule(s), wouldn't they mean that a piece resting on one portal occupies both portals?
I know they're supposed to be just portals on the floor, but the way they're set up make me think of teleporters in TF2. So every time I capture an opponent's piece that was sitting on a portal, I'll just imagine my piece telefragging theirs. >:D
what happens if a piece lands on the portal and stays there for a turn?
I would need a referee (or program) to keep an eye on the game to ensure no illegal moves were made.
now imagine 5d portal chess with multiverse time travel
3 player 5d portal chess with multiverse time travel
2 white pieces rest on both portals and black piece capture one of them and get teleported on next portal and capture 2nd piece and continues to his piece till his turn end
Can this happen
Hey man, don't know know? Portal's conserve momentum. Pieces should continuing moving on the other side of the portal.
wheatley as the king was attempted, but failed after a record number of games ended in imediate double check mate, as well as the pieces vanishing and later being found on the moon.
What happens when there is a piece on one portal and someone moves a portal onto another piece?
He stopped calling it a portal and switched to calling it a teleporter at 3:54 😂
Also, just thought of an additional question - can you en passant a pawn that has promoted? Seeing how that rule was developed, it should be possible.
These portals are making the game that much more complicated and fun at the same time. :D
Sé que esto es de hace 7 años, pero haré el intento de explicar cómo podría funcionar la captura al paso o "en passant". Primero vamos a dividir el movimiento del peón que precede a la captura al paso.
Para que esta extraña forma de capturar se pueda realizar, el peón a capturar debe haber avanzado 2 casas (o casillas o escaques según como las llames) desde su posición inicial. En su recorrido vemos que empieza desde la casa inicial, pasa por la casa intermedia, y termina en la casa final. Debido a la presencia de los portales, puede darse una distorsión del espacio del tablero de ajedrez normal, lo que en otras palabras significa que las casas inicial, intermedia y final pueden no estar alineadas. Sin embargo, pese a que esto pueda confundir el cómo realizar la captura al paso, su esencia sigue siendo la misma.
Entonces, tenemos al peón que acaba de mover dos casas, empezando en la inicial, pasando por la intermedia y terminando en la final. Al peón adversario lo único que ha de concertarle es la casa intermedia. Esto es lo que caracteriza a la captura al paso. En el ajedrez normal, el peón que capturare al paso debe estar sobre captura en el caso hipotético de que el peón a capturar no haya avanzado dos pasos, sino solo uno, habiendo detenidose en la mentada casa intermedia.
Como consecuencia de esta, es neceser que el peón adversario deba estar en la quinta fila. Supóngase, un peón blanco en e2, portales en e3 y a7, un peón negro en d4. Si avanzase blanco su peón dos escaques, pasaría primero por el portal, que lo teletransportaría a a7, y luego, en su último paso, llegaría a a8 (y coronaría). La casa intermedia es a7 en este caso, haya avanzado solo un paso. Por lo tanto, negro puede capturar al paso a través del portal en e3, al peón coronado en a8.
Un contraejemplo de cómo no se daría este caso sería el de un peón blanco en e2, portales en e3 y e6, peón negro en d7. El peón de d7 no podría capturar al paso, dado que solo atravesaría el portal de e6, y llegaría a e3, casilla que peón blanco, incluso en el hipotético caso de que solo se moviera un escaque, no habría pisado, porque se habría teletransportado a e6 en el proceso, casilla inaccesible para negro.
Im going to personaly say no you cant "castle" through a portal for now as it can only happen under strict enough rules already However "En passant" is a definite yes.
Can you move the portal piece when in check to get out of ?
I'm not sure about the rule of moving portals into pieces to force move them, maybe portals should only move to free spaces, I'll have to experiment and see which works best... for science!
Now I am confused myself, there seems to definitely be an issue with the current rule set that i will fix. I have to think about this I will get back to you. Great question though keep them coming.
Good concept for a variant. Looks fun. But speaking of rules... 2:27 makes me think: the queen should be blocked by its own color piece... like if the portal exists there shouldn't be any option to slide past it.
Can't wait until someone program this in a Chess game :D
Then a chess player's dream could become reality: Playing as white and having a white pawn on line number 1
This has "Sheldon Cooper Seal of Approval" written all over it.
Also... when can I move my golf cart?
When it's done charging, or you land on the time machine.....obviously.
4:37 CORRECTION:
-Player takes turn
-Boom
-Queen takes pawn
-Boom
You should make a portal chess game so many people apprecaite and understand the rule.
Ahh... Yes.... Por-tals. What a great por-tal version of chess. Gotta love those por-tals.
Por-tal.
Could you set up a trap by surrounding a portal with pawns or some thing then move the other portal to a bishop and kill it with the pawns?
This is amazing
I thought your idea was a fun one. I talked about it in my response video. Personally I decided the black hole would destroy a radius of 3x3.
Holesome and great video
1:55 That's still Check if the bishop goes all the way through.
Well, yea, but it's still the other players turn after he has made the move into position to Check him...
So, it isn't relevant to the demostration.
how does the knight move?
that complicates things quite a bit. maybe you should try setting the pieces right first. namely, the king should be on the kingside, not the queenside (e1, not d1). you basically put each king as if it was black who played as white and white who played as black.
Holy, this looks so fun!! Can't wait to try it haha.
IT'S BRILLIANT!!
And the world explodes when you move a portal into a portal
Chess Club is going to love this
you should desing actual small portal pieces that looks like walls with portals on them and youve got yourself an awsome way to earn 5$
If an enemy piece is on a portal can you move your pawn onto the opposite portal or does it simply block the pawn from going forward?
No, you transport through and capture the enemy.
and what if a dark squared bishop end up on a light square, is that allowed ? that wouldbe fun !
What if say a white piece was occupying a portal when a black piece went on top of the occupied portal. Does it capture the white and continue to move through or capture it and stay still or maybe it just just moves through without capturing? Also can a white portal for instance move on to a black piece or just onto it's own color?
It captures and stays
my right ear enjoyed this
this is awesome.
but, can I move my piece and my portal in the same turn?
Ok but what is the portal movememt?
where are the portals?
Now I anticipate playing chess, PORTAL CHESS :D
If the portal is blocked by a piece of your colour, you can't occupy both portals, can you? So, this rule would be unnecessary.
I'm totally playing this!
1:55 Sir I'm pretty sure that's a check if you observe more carefully (:
The board is set up incorrectly-- white's rook in the right corner should be start off on the white square. Nice job on getting the queen and king on the right colors though... ;-)
That's really cool great video man.
when move portals counts as move?
GolD_R0ger yes
Sweet! cant wait to try it
interesting concept.i might try this if i were drunk