Thomas Sowell "Why Is This History of Slavery Hidden in Schools?" Reaction
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- What did you think of Thomas Sowell's perspective on slavery?
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Do you think chattel slavery built the world economy?
Yes!
Yes and No. Bear with me a second. Slavery built economies, established Empires ect. , a given truth. However, without slavery here, in North America, where would we be today? This country has benefited because of slavery and not AT ALL because of the Negative. Maybe I am out in left field? Slaves, Former Slaves/Freed Men(Frederick Douglas for example) and their Progentry, have ALL been contributors to this Country. Yes, Slavery=BAD....but when I look at all the things we have today, I truly believe we as a Nation, are better off! I think we spend too much time buying into the DIVISION that is force fed us, on the Daily! If not for that BS...we as a Nation, could move mountains! Albeit, probably not before we make amends to 'Native' Americans? Talk about a Raw Deal? Neither Mine nor Your's, were treated that bad. Shit, 'Natives' worked among separate tribes for each others benefit, the Iroquois Nation. 'Native' ...well the Cherokee sort of shoot down my "They got a raw deal."? "CIVILIZED TRIBES" owned more slaves, where I am from, than any Whites! Until the Trail Of Tears...damn i should have brainstormed my thoughts, before I tried to type them out...SHIT/OOOPS! Hope you get what I am trying to say.
Absolutely. Thomas Sowell is a very intelligent man however his takes on history is blinded by his political biases. Sowell will often twist history, omit truths, overlook any details to soften the blow of chattel slavery and the detrimental impact of the colonizers had on black history in the U.S. Thomas Sowell in my opinion is a tool to whitewash history for a certain political party. I think you caught some of his dishonest takes/telling of history, most young youtubers don't have the knowledge to catch them and just go along with his views.
@@tgc117 Political biases? How so? To me, he is an "Cant make it in America? CAUSE SLAVERY? Which NO ONE ALIVE TODAY in US, was subjected too! Get off the Plantation of Division and White Republican Bad
@@adamparsons1725 Every telling of history from Sowell always ends with... "liberals caused this or that". For example when he states that black people just turned lazy overnight after welfare was an option. He leaves out many factors during that time that were due to systemic racism that impacted jobs and finances... as an example.
Conservatives love to push the welfare queen narrative and leave out the fact that many poverty stricken white folks in the south have relied on welfare for over decades... there was a hundred years when the system fought against black mothers receiving welfare.
These white poor conservatives come from a strong republican base... forever conservatives.. so even conservatives wont get rid of welfare, instead point to the black community as the problem of welfare.
It is pure reverse southern strategy. Conservatives want the black vote, so they use people like sowell, candace, larry ect.. to make claims like... liberals want you stuck on welfare, liberals caused all of your problems ignoring how many areas in urban dense cities became what they are today.. its not a liberal or conservative issue.
You have a long way to go before you can legitimately challenge the research done by Tom Sowell. My goodness. Takes much more than name dropping a book or two that reinforces your favorite echo chamber.
Thomas Sowell doesn't provide 'perspective' as much as he does researched factual data.
That's it. And if you know Sowell, you know his three questions to disarm those who seem always to go by feelings when making an argument: At what cost?; Compared to what?; What is your evidence?
When it comes to actual history Thomas Sowell runs circles around Nikole Hannah-Jones so fast that it looks like a duck, duck, goose game
Sowell is stating that economics and vulnerable peoples drove the African slave trade, not race. Larger African tribes raided weaker tribes for slaves and sold them off. Same as the Ottomans, Barbary Pirates, Arabs, Europeans, etc. It wasn't until groups formed larger coalitions that eventually became nation states with standing armies that the slave trade started to become more dangerous and less profitable.
"You have to replace it" Ah, there's the sticking point. Replace it according to whose model? Societies always have undergone change and evolutions, not always forward.
Grass isn't always greener
The real differences lies in the culture. We live in a capitalist society where people are paid for having marketable skills. There are races with culture and behavioral patterns that foster people with marketable skills, and these people are more "valuable" in a sense that they are paid more than other races, namely the Chinese, the Jews, the Nigerian and the Indian. A lot of them came to the US without nothing and ended up being millionaires.
In my opinion, being born in a big family or with strict parents (as opposed to loose/dead parents) are the biggest privilege a person can have. A lot of black people and more and more white people are trapped in a vicious cycle since the 1960s. It is worsening and spreading. Society is not becoming more racist, but the culture is deteriorating and it affects black people disproportionally.
Do a reaction on Thomas Sowell " Facts about slavery not taught in schools. "
Thomas Sowell brings up some interesting points about economics and social issues. I don't always agree with him but it wrong to attack his character because you disagree with him
I love the great Thomas Sowell.
I had the same reaction as Thomas Sowell, when was asked his opinion to the author and journalist Ta-Nesha Coates about Blacks being given reparations. If reparations are to be made, I believe Indigenous peoples of this land should be the first to be compensated. But Mr. Coates isn't interested about that! In fact, Coates simply knows his argument for reparations makes good conversation pieces. But such actions will never ever take forth. And he is well aware of that! But the fact that he brings about this controversial comment is good for him, because it will generate more publicity and sell more books! In other words, he's just a Capitalist underneath it all, folks!
Reparations should be all about community investments: free preschool, daycare, superb teachers, jobs programs, and responsible policing.
Also, yes, "Race" is a pseudo-scienctific concept established by Carl Linneaus (Swedish) in 1735. But, "The concept of "race" has no basis in science or genetics,,, The Human species is 99.9 percent genetically identical." - HGP
I would encourage you to find more Thomas Sowell videos or books discussing slavery and reparations. Mr. Sowell brings out many other dimensions of slavery not widely discussed.
He is a very smart man. National treasure.
Sowell is a worker, a guy who set himself up as the right-wing's favorite black man. He did that by cherry-picking history, according to his own ideology (religious.)
Absolutely a brilliant man . I can listen to him all day.
Thomas Sowell is a clown with the intelligence of a plant, the shill for conservatives and an economist who no experts in the field respects , watch how these conservatives will make you react to Candace Owens next. They love using black conservatives to drag you down the far right rabbithole.
@@sheriefelsayad5578 you must dwell on racism all day long. What a sad life you must have . Have fun with that. lol.
@@frankcastle9991 my life is pretty cool, because I dont sit around watching clowns like Thomas Sowell 😂 conservative muppet
Thomas Sowell is the Ultimate Fact Checker! The Fact Checker of Fact Checkers. As far I'm concerned everything Dr Sowell says is gospel. It's has never failed me in a debate. Not once, ever.
@@tomsmith2340 i was talking about Thomas Sowell but you also seem like a very sharp cookie as well.
@@tomsmith2340 Do you know that 22 trillion dollars is enough money to give every man woman and child living in New York City LA Chicago Detroit Baltimore St Louis and Oakland a million dollars each.
@@tomsmith234022 trillion, if each dollar was a mile it would take light 3.72 years to cross it end from end
This wasn’t much of a reaction video. No one in modern times is as well versed on the issue of slavery than Thomas Sowell, yet you barely heard a word of what he said.
You claim is that the current system needs to be replaced. My question is replaced with what? Are we go follow WEB Du Bois and embrace Maoism. DuBois certainly loved to cozying up with the Chinese Communists Party. DuBois even praised them for “liberating” Tibet. I’m not so sure those living in Tibet would agree. DuBois and those black activists who have adopted his Marxist views are pushing for socialism while benefiting from capitalism! Be careful what you wish for!
You seem to indicate that Trans-Atlantic slave trade was built on already existing racism, and if so, I believe you are somewhat mistaken. As you said, racial theory emerged around the 17th century, but the very reason for its creation was to defend the very idea of slavery. If all men are created equal and therefore enslaving them is immoral, then branding some as less than human is the loophole.
Also, chattel slavery was not rare in the rest or the world either. It was the life of many Europeans for hundreds, if not thousands of years before the discovery of America.
Please explain the Barbary Pirates that enslaved over a one million Europeans. Also the Arabics nation that enslaved 2 million Africans, and the Ottoman Empire that enslaved millions from the Balkans?
Eh ... you didn`t actually listen to Sowell, it seems. You talk about things that he would agree with you about, ut you didn`t comment on anything that you didn`t allready know. And it is useful to know that talking a lot about other peoples echochambers is a pretty solid tip that you are in your own :-.) . And it feels like you stopped Sowell as he wandered outside the information present in yours.
I am sad that a black youtuber who has 145k subscribers knows little about one of the two greatest star of AA.
My ancestors were fed to the lions soooooo Ouchy as well .
At the end of the civil war, Mississippi was a majority African American state. The black people still had no power after slavery ended.
6:11 simply untrue.
Watch more Thomas Sowell. You'll find out more
Stop seeing yourself as a victim. You know a little history but that little history you know does not define you, has not prevented you from learning to read and write, will not keep you from achieving great success if you put your mind and hand to it.
You say stop seeing yourself as a victim, but what if I am? Logic has proven that all non white people are victims of racism. Also, how do you define success? Lets talk
I agree with you about reparations, but you should finish the Thomas Sowell interview. He talks a lot about the difference between American chattel slavery and slavery throughout time.
What differences? As far as I can tell “chattel” slavery was very common in all parts of the world.
@@stevenperry5592 Slavery in much of Africa compared more closely to European serfdom. And outside of transatlantic slave trade, Caste slavery based on so-called “whiteness” was not a common thing.
Q: "Why is this history of slavery still hidden in schools?"
A: Because history is continuing into the present, so it's not history, it's contemporary.
The history of slavery, Indian massacres, etc are not hidden in schools. It’s a lie
Yes, the slavery is still alive in some part of the world. In order not to disturb them, keep their history hidden.
That’s the biggest problem with reparations in which as you said just giving people money isn’t going to solve the issue and it’s just about money then that shows where their priorities lye
"Chattel slavery" is a cowardly dodge. Its like saying 1 thru 9 people in slavery is fine..... but ten people in slavery is the point where slavery is bad. Slavery is either bad or its not.
Slavery, as I stated is wrong in all forms. I point out how "Chattel Slavery" is different because it was based on skin color. I'm up for a discussion about it, if you are. Just let me know.
@@PIForever May I suggest instead of chattel slavery.... use the term race based slavery? Thank you for being a good fella.
TS is boss🙏🏻
Wonderful. I wish you had played a large portion of it. What he shared was history, I did not know. Amazing.
Yeah, that was the first time really listening to Thomas Sowell. I'll have to hear more from him to get a better understanding of his perspective.
Here's the thing yes these people were enslaved by the color of their skin yes white men did that but you know what else white men also did? Fought to end it and bring equality between white and black nobody wants to talk about that though we all want to focus on the slavery part that's the fun part nobody wants to talk about the sacrifice that was given to stop it.
I think the fight to end slavery in the United States was reparations enough as men white men laid down their lives to free black slaves.
Please yell me more about systematic racism? As a white person, what can I do you cant?
I don't know the answer to that question, there could be a multitude of things you can do that I can not. May I ask, why do you classify yourself as white? Where does that classification come from? Let's talk
@P.I. Forever would you rather Caucasian?
What law on the books now that says a person of color can't do what a white can or anyone else for that matter? That would be systematic racism.
They want to keep us poor people fighting along racial lines while the ruling class elites rape us financially.
I judge everyone by their character and actions not their skin color.
I'll ask again...why are people classified by the color of their skin? Can you explain why and where that comes from?
@@PIForever why do they have different breeds of horses?
@@davidlindsey1545 Let's answer my question 1st... Why are people classified by the color of their skin? Where does that come from? Could you break it down for me?
Yep exactly ,put a rich person next to a average person, give the average person money to close the gap ,average person goes spends mobey on goods and services meanwhile the rich person owns the establishment which sells those goods and services thus making him richer and even more wealthier than before ,through free money from the govt and on top of that rich person knows these folks got that rep money so he drives the prices up to match it
President Ronald Reagan offered Dr. Thomas Sowell the position of Secretary of Education but he declined. 😔
Oh, I did not know that. Good info.
@@PIForever Yup! I only mention it because I know a lot of Democrats lie that President Reagan was “racist” but he also appointed a Black man named Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court so he tried his best to add some diversity to high level government positions.
No racist on Earth would do such a thing. 😆
@@blake7587 Again, appreciate the info, however, I wouldn't say those things alone does not make him a racist. To me it's the equivalent of saying, "I'm not racist, some of my best friends are black". The real question to ask anyone who classifies themselves as white is why are people classified by skin color? Now if Reagan would have eliminated this system and replaced it with a system of justice, then maybe we can definitely say he wasn't.👍🏽
@@PIForever I’m just saying there is no proof Reagan was a racist and that I think the “racism” thing is used for political gain by the left.
Now I’m not saying racism doesn’t exist I just think there should be some sort of proof first.
Like if there was a record of him expressing racial denigration (like LBJ using the N-word even after signing the Civil Rights Act) then I would agree he is racist but I study Reagan a lot and I’ve never seen anything about him showing any sort of prejudice or racism.
From what I’ve read he chose not to focus on race but to consider all Americans as one big family.
That’s how I see it too! Anyone who loves America is my family. Anyone who hates America is NOT. Regardless of skin color.
Thanks for the discourse and let me ask you, how do I know what person who has classified themselves as white is or isn't racist? If Reagan wasn't a racist why didn't he do more to end racism or why didnt he speak out more about racism/white supremacy or why didn't he end racial classifications? I believe we live in a social materialistic world dominated by racism/white supremacy and the biggest tool of WS is confusion. Most people believe, and I'm not saying this is you, that racism is just mistreating someone who is classified by as a different race. I wholeheartedly disagree. Classifying people by race is racism and from studying history and looking at evidence those classifications come from people are classify themselves as white that practice WS. So that's why I ask the question about who is or isn't racist.
More thomas sowell
You didn't even listen to him in interview ,it was one comment
How can u replace a system that works honestly?
Well, the system we have now does not work for the benefit of people. It is efficient in producing things, but it is horrible in helping people who need the most constructive help. It does not value humanity.
@@PIForever china is effective in producing things. Frankly this looks like a 3rd world country at this point. Education is awful, infrastructure terrible, taxes too high, healthcare expensive, no border control, pills and drugs all over. And so on. Yet thats not due to how its set up
Japan and korea are set up the se and doing wildly better than us. Its how we've gone about changing the original plan. Its mess in america but it wasnt always like this
Berry, I was speaking on the system that dominates the entire planet. From my perspective, there is only 1 world government and that's white supremacy. It is the biggest problem on the planet and we want be able to solve any other problems until we solve the race problem. It dominates China, Japan, Korea, and all other non white so called countries. Those other countries are affected by it as well. Therefore, no society on the planet is living how we should because of it. We need to eliminate this system and replace it with a system of justice, across the planet.
Jus give out reoperations and all is going to be cool for awhile. Once all the spliffs are gone and the new house is wrecked then what? Oh they'll still be drivin a nice waxed shiny car but the real end result of it all within a few years is back to square one.
Thomas Sowell is what happens when you add extra melanin to the John Birch Society. Also, many people have thought that the Hoover Institute is an embarrassment to Stanford. It may not have started out that way, but in the past couple of years Hoover has been home to some of the more absurd talking heads masquerading as academics.
To keep people at odds with each other.
I think Sowell has some unique insights as a Black man with an unorthodox view on America, Capitalism, and Western history. You cannot just dismiss this man cause your beliefs don't align with his. Hes a legit intellectual whos' ideas deserve to an honest consideration. That being said, its very clear that he has a difficult time reconciling the facts around the trans-atlantic slave trade of West/central Africans with his conservative values. Hes letting conservative ideology, which is how he wishes the world would be, cloud the objective reality of chattel slavey and how its impacted the America we now live in
you need to do bit more research no offence.and if you feel strongly about what happened in the past, put atlas the word out for those enslaved today, we can't change the past only the present...and currently there are more ppl enslaved today than ever...facts...and its still not about colour....its wealth and dehumanisation to those with less...always has been...africans sold...africans to whites because they had been doing it for centuries before..and they are same race peoples so think about it out your bubble of the states....what happened to those poor people is truly horrible, but its no where near what has happened to EVERY colour creed sex on every continent
Right… fix the whole system!
PA I listen to your entire video I’m gonna look at the ABBA article/site.
I’d take exception though with the statement the Bible contains it because Paul stated clearly that there is no difference in the quality of Jew or gentile richer poor etc. which includes color of skin no race no individual is more important than anybody else or less than anyone.
I would be interested in a zoom meeting to hash this out. And maybe multiple ones I think we’re gonna need them. It’s about time it’s past time to remove the elephant in the room as they say❤🙏🕊
The Bible does not support or condone slavery in the way you speak of slavery. Slavery under the Mosaic Law was a very different system, and could be likened more to a system of voluntary welfare. Take these points from Exodus 21:
1. First one must agree to becoming a slave. In Ex 21:16 kidnapping is a capital punishment regardless of the victims social status.
2. The slave would only be obliged to serve six years. The seventh year he is released free of charge, Ex 21:2.
3. If the slave receives a significant injury from the owner he is to be released immediately as compensation (Ex. 21:26-27).
4. If the slave dies at the hands of the owner, the owner himself will be punished (Ex. 21:20).
As you can see slavery under the Mosaic Law is nothing like the transatlantic slave trade, so to characterize the Bible as condoning slavery is intellectually dishonest as you are injecting a foreign concept of slavery into Scripture. You must remember the Mosaic Law was given to a group of people who God just delivered from slavery in Egypt, that form of slavery Scripture condemns!
You need to go see the rest of the world
Why do you want me to do that?
brother. it mainly wasnt due to race. it was financial interest. power over the weaker people.
Let me understand what you are saying... you don't believe chattel slavery was primarily focused on racism /white supremacy but on financial interest?
@@PIForever sure. chattel slavery existed way before countries crossed continents. slavery on racial grounds was less important to slave owners. for 1000s of years it was the tribes/factions/cultures next door whom were enslaved and sold into chattel slavery. it was the financial interest of the slave owners to sell slaves they caught for profit. whites enslaved whites, blacks enslaved blacks. remember i didnt completely exclude racism as a motive.
Isn’t it pronounced So WELL? 😊❤
Did you even read the Bible though? The “slavery” found in the Bible was voluntary. That’s why it was referred to as servitude in the KJV. If you FORCE someone to be a slave, that’s called kidnapping. The kind of slavery where you go out, capture someone, and enslave them forever was given a DEATH PENALTY in the Bible. This is what God said, Exodus 21:16, “And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death.” THAT is what the Bible says about the slavery that plagued the US.
Hello... You say that the slavery in the Bible was voluntary, what Scripture says that? Also, if it was voluntary, how do you explain Leviticus 25:44?
@@PIForever I explain it in the same light as the rest of scripture. Exodus 21:16 is a law of God, period. It applies no matter the case. Stealing people was prohibited and given a death penalty. Leviticus 25:44 stating, "Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids" doesn't say anything in contradiction to Exodus 21:16. You still cannot steal people. Just because the source of your servants is designated to come from those not of Israel doesn't mean someone can be forced just because they are not of Israel. Strangers and sojourners, for example, were not to be harassed according to Exodus 23:9, "Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger: for ye know the heart of a stranger, seeing ye were strangers in the land of Egypt." The law was applied to everyone in the land evenly, regardless, Exodus 12:49, "One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you." See what I mean? If you cannot oppress strangers, what makes you think God let's you steal them? Exodus 21:16 should make it more clear that not only can you not oppress, you definitely cannot steal people.
@@egccrypto2349 Wait, we are talking about owning people as property. No one said anything about stealing. Are you saying that it is ok to own people as property? Just trying to get an understanding
@@PIForever I’m saying I believe what the Bible says, no matter what it is. That means I’m for freedom of choice for if you wish to become a servant. If someone wants to be a servant of someone else for whatever reason then that is their business not yours or mine. I am against stealing people and SELLING them into slavery, so I’m against enslaving people. That means I’m anti-forcing people. The Bible doesn’t use the word slavery to describe its system of servitude. I use the KJV btw, basically strictly. I see it as the most trustworthy translation, but other translations can be legitimate too. I just believe that it is great and the best I have access to. If you find it in the Bible, I believe it and I will until my dying breath.
The fundamental problem is the selective distribution of the issuance of money. Equal distribution is the solution.
Explain please!
@@adamparsons1725 More info on that on my channel.
@@NumeroSystem Ty! I will check it out.
Equal outcomes has never worked.
@@cano21 NumeroSet is a private equal distribution economic system, works just fine.
we owe you nothing, I'm English we did our bit and you still whine and whine,.
Thomas is great
first time watching you .. what you know is just not so..keep watchin tom and walter e williams and larry elder...
Hello, we can have a conversation about what you disagree with me on. Just let me know 👍🏽
What system??? U can't just say system. It's ridiculous
What do you mean? Let's talk
@P.I. Forever I mean what system? Who runs it? What department is it in? Is it department of education, department of transportation? Is it in the Federal government or local? How Long has this system been around? 10, 50, 100 yrs??? If so how do they maintain a leadership structure after all that time? How in all that time have they managed to keep it secret? You see, it only takes a few questions, and this system nonsense falls apart completely. I'll give you another one. Does this "system" involve the NFL and NBA? Because Sports aren't apart of the government yet black people manage to keep getting in trouble there too. The answer is because the problem is CULTURE not an invisible "system".
I guess you're asking me about the system of racism/ white supremacy? The system of WS is a system of thought speech and actions used by people who have classified themselves as white to dominate and mistreat people they have classified as nonwhite in all areas of activity.. economics education entertainment labor law politics religion and war, for fun glory and material comfort. That's based on evidence. You ask who runs it, well depending on what you mean, white people that practice WS control the system. I'm not for sure how long it has been around, all I know is that it exists today and I want to replace it with a system of justice. A secret? Trust me, it's not a secret, but their are a lot of people who want to deny it's existence in order to maintain it. NFL/NBA? WS dominates all areas and they fall undeneath ALL AREAS. You say so called black people get in trouble there too, well let me ask you, why are people classified as black? Who came up with that? Why are people classified as white? Why are people classified by skin color at all? Can you explain? And what do you mean culture? There is only one dominant force and that's WS. You're either practicing or reacting to it. So could you answer those questions?
Thomas Sowell stumped by Ta Nehisi Coates is not surprising. Sowell was wrong during the Civil Rights era, he is still wrong today. He does poorly when challenged.
Nice words. Now tell us why specifically Thomas is wrong? Because you don't "like" the truth?
Kind of a bad take here
Nope sure don't want to be a slave I don't want to be told what to do. But quite frankly I'm well aware that we're all slaves to the system and to me that's almost worse cuz we run around with the illusion of freedom but you have to do the same thing you did yesterday today in the same thing you did today tomorrow or you'll lose your shelter your ability to have Mobility I.E your automobile because you want to be able to afford these things right you're not free to be inventive creative do the things that you want to do you have to pay for the system to function even though it's a malfunctioning broken system again I apologize take care peace and love.
Hell I guess I'm just an idiot cuz I thought we were all One Tribe and I don't see that you having a tan or me having a lack of a tan or you know the scientific term milanin what the hell does that mean that means nothing means nothing has nothing to do with your Humanity level of or lack of cuz far as I can see throughout history we're all equally great and crappy regardless right Hitler Idi Amin I mean bad people are bad people it makes me sad really does we could all learn so much from each other and the only people that profit off of this are the same people that are prop it up in this since time of Memorial the rich. All right I apologize for my ramble
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