Jane Fonda Learned An Important Lesson From Dolly Parton | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend
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9-to-5 was not “before its time.” It was OF its time. That’s why it got made. It publicized stuff that women knew about, and were angry about. It was innovative, but very of its time. I was 25 yrs old in 1980. We were ready for it, loved it.
It was unusual because the heroines won & the sexist chauvinist villain boss was punished.
I was 11. I watched that movie over and over and over. It taught me to stand up for myself in all areas of my life.
So true! Studio did not want to make movies about «women stuff” back then…
The point being made was that it was ahead of its time in that it talked about or focused upon many subjects not spoken of so widely before as in a major movie studio. It was OF its time in that sexual harassmenr was occurring in the world but it always has been.
@@flenif2247 It wasn’t just “of its time” in the sense of sexual harassment “occurring in the world”-it was “of its time” in the sense that sexual harassment was viewed generally as unacceptable and actionable.
The first case in the US commonly accepted as dealing with sexual harassment, _Barnes v. Train,_ had occurred six years earlier in 1974. In 1980, the same year in which _9 to 5_ was released, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission established guidelines for sexual harassment, defining it, in part, as “unwelcome sexual advances.” In _no_ sense was the movie “ahead of its time” unless one can call _any_ movie that is first in portraying something “ahead of its time”-Hollywood, as is usual, lagged behind, or, at best, tracked what was going on generally in society.
9-5 was the gateway to helping me leave my brutal Mormon husband. I watched it over and over- I bought and wrecked many videos of this film rewatching it until I knew every bit of it by heart. Jane, Lily’s characters and Dolly’s music moved me to rise up against an entire church of misogynistic men. I love these women more than words can say. Thank you for sharing this information today. Thank you for motivating me and many other women to rise up and find freedom. I still listen to Dolly’s music every single day. Keep going! ☮️🌹
Wow, what a story! Sounds like there’s a screenplay in you that can help inspire and liberate many people, women especially, from cult-like restrictive religions. Please consider telling your story on a larger platform! It will help people!
Well done!! Takes courage to go against everyone you know.
Celebrate and enjoy everyday...you deserve it!!
I hope those ladies read this post !!!
Thankful you gotboutnof your horrible situation!!!!!!!
Moving commentary. I would love to share some suggestions for some very unknown, hidden, but the absolute most moving Dolly Parton songs that did not chart.
Dolly seems like one of the best human beings on the planet that anyone could learn something from
Ms Fonda is coming off pretty nice herself. It would be great to have an evening with these fine people. ❤
@@michaelratcliffe7559 Then throw in Lily Tomlinson, too!
I agree. I was thinking if I could spend one day with a celebrity, I would love to spend it with Dolly.
#DOLLY2024!💗💗💗
I've always felt that. She's real... despite the wig and whatever. Her heart is so real. I love her.
First, I LOVE Jane Fonda and think she is truly unique and wonderful. Second, I LOVE Dolly Parton and my mom, an immigrant from India who doesn't really know pop culture or country music, also LOVES Dolly Parton! Dolly is just the kind of human being who is beloved by EVERYONE. She is just oh so lovely.
Hearing her speak about what we face in our professional lives today in such an honest, open, realistic way was so refreshing. She gets it. She always got it.
Well said 👍
Dolly = great Wisdom from God
Yes!
She knew about harvy weinstein and said nothing about it.
In the documentary about Dolly, they interviewed her friend and fellow singer, Mac Davis. He described a time when he invited Dolly to his home for a large party, and people immediately lined up to get her autograph. He was mortified, and pulled her aside to apologize, saying, "I promise, this is NOT why I invited you here." She said something like, "Mac, I've wanted to be this famous my entire life. These folks ain't puttin' me out. I love it!" Now THAT'S a professional. You just know it's gotta be tiring, and there's no human being on earth who could be in the mood to deal with that sort of attention 24/7. But Dolly plays along with it happily because the most important thing to her is making OTHERS happy. She may actually be an angel, ya'll.
Dolly said she related wholly with Elvis because of their similar childhood experiences. He also said in an interview that he appreciated his fans’ interest because they are the reason he is blessed in his career. So Dolly and Elvis thought the same about autographs and fans.❤❤
We are so blessed to have Dolly. One of a kind, with a heart of gold
I'm always in awe with Jane Fonda's recollection. So detailed from so long ago. Amazing for any age, but at 85!
ewww jane fonda
@@theearthlaughs4251 You mean Hanoi Jane?
The face lift helped.
The Jane who gave a note to the captors of a soldier who just wanted her to give it to his family. Who then was tortured and killed him for passing her a note.
@@blueocean-me1nsYou need to move out of your parents’ basement.
When Matt touched his heart to say "one of my favourite movies" respectfully and with a lot of restraint to is excitement, that was just too cute and heartwarming.
It really is a fantastic movie, one of my favorites of all time.
He says a lot of his movies are his “favourites”
Nobody expected much from "9 to 5;" Fonda was Oscar-winning, but she was ALSO "Hanoi Jane." And Lily Tomlin and Dolly weren't the stars they are now. But Dolly had wanted to be in movies her whole life, and her enthusiasm carried the show by itself. She wrote the title song and it was a big hit, and the star's chemistry was intergalactic. And you can bet that women EVERYWHERE cheered to see sexual harassment met with a younger, prettier version of "Granny Clampett" with a big huge revolver. And some of it was heartwarming, too.
Gourley is THE PERFECT audience/fan stand-in for the show
Whenever Conan gets to talk about behind the scenes stories from The Simpsons, Matt subconsciously rests his hands in his fists with a childlike smile... I realize this while I'm sitting there with my hands in fists grinning like a fool as well
And this is another example of fan interjection (kept respectfully short) that adds to his excellent presence which builds yet another layer of genuine heart into this show
came off ass kissing. "your such a fan"
I'd love to see Dolly on the podcast!!!
That would be amazing!
She's STILL so freakin sharp and well put together for a woman of her years.
Jane Fonda is Amazing. ❤
Traitor
Amazing....ly awful? Yes.
Jane Fonda is a traitor.
@@ChirpyMike Awwww... does she offend your snowflake sensitivities?
For someone that 'interviews' people, he certainly spends a lot of time talking about himself... look how BEYOND bored Jane is, as she holds up her head and tries to 'act' interested in his endless story, about whatever.
I’m a woman in my early fifties and hearing this episode with Jane Fonda made me feel so moved and inspired - and, strangely, GRATEFUL for my age. Thank you Conan and Sona and Matt for this extremely thoughtful interview, with a stand-out human. I also worship Dolly and Lilly! Such a salve to the soul that these three have had such an enduring friendship, and that Jane Fonda, seemingly the person with everything, attributes so much of her own growth to these OG kick-ass WOMEN! I’ve been struggling with being a fifty-something, and I think I can say with all certainty that hearing this conversation made me LOVE where I am in life. Thank you ❤
PREACH, my fellow Gen-Xer!
I couldn't have said it better.
Another way to accept getting older is to think about those that are denied the chance.... My dear mother passed when she was 42, I was a kid and I suppose that is why it never crossed my mind. When I surpassed the age that she died..It seemed all the rest would not be taken for granted. At 58 and with a deadly and rare medical condition, I really take life one moment at a time. Not to minimize what others may experience, but to see it from a different perspective. Jane, Dolly & Lily are so alive with passion and gusto.
@@stargazer1359 I lost my twin at the age of 23. I was diagnosed with an autoimmune disorder at the age of 21. I'm 57. Your singing to the choir my new friend. I agree 100%.
I'm 59 love these women and the movie, but still am resentful I had to go through and put up with so much crap as a young girl working as a secretary, receptionist, typist all my life.
The stories I could tell would curl hair and make 20 something girls gasp!
I met Dolly while she was just waiting to do her part in a movie and she was extremely friendly and just loved her fans. She was like the happiest person ever!
Dolly is such a joy for everyone, as is Jane
Dolly is an angel who is appreciative, kind and unspoiled. She is not ashamed of her roots and poverty and she has elevated the whole community.of Pigeon Forge TN. God bless her! I visited the area and her presence is everywhere.
Not every work environment is the same. But in my 20's (the 1980s) I had to handle a lot of sexual harassment in more than one workplace. I've talked to other women my age and they had similar experiences. (not all of them of course) As a very young professional, my major stressor was dealing with that. I had moved thousands of miles from home, knew nobody, and had my first professional and very demanding job but sexual harassment is what took up most of my emotional space dealing with. I remember my mother talking about it. She had to quit jobs over it. (1940s-1950s) There was no light shone on it but it was prevalent in a lot of work environments. I find that "good guys" don't believe this happens (they would never do that) and the other kind don't believe the "good guys" exist. They insist men are all like them and you (the harassed female) is the oddity for not complying.
Once made a delivery to an office with a sign behind the desk that read, "Do you want to talk to the man in charge or the woman who knows what's going on?"
I'm sorry you had to go through that. I can't even imagine. I worked in a team where this happened to one of the women and the guy who harassed her AND my boss got fired (she didn't do anything about the harassment). It's taken pretty seriously these days.
@@june2420111 seeing ACTUAL accountability just made my heart soar! When I was harassed in the early 2000's, the other women outcast me and sabotaged my work performance till I was "let go". I found out when another lady finally got sick of their cattiness and told me everything on my last day 🙃 I couldn't begin to guess how many hours of crying and trauma that and another similar job caused.
It's awesome that it's being taken seriously ❤
I adore Jane Fonda, as an actor and a person. She’s straight-up and tells it like it is. ❤❤❤❤
Hi Kathy hope you’re okay?
My husband and I were extras on Uncle Buck. They filmed the Tire Shop scene where my husband worked as an actual mechanic...you can see him in the foreground under the car when Amy Madigan is on the phone with Buck. John Candy wasn't in any of the scenes they were shooting that day, but he just came to the shop to hang out. He brought his wife and 2 kids and just hung out all day. He made time for ANYBODY who wanted to talk to him. He truly was what you imagine him to be...a lovely, generous, kind and funny soul. Amy Madigan was lovely as well, very kind and down to earth and likewise took the time to speak with people.
Your description of John Candy is the description of the quintessential Canadian-- kind, open and unpretentious🇨🇦
@@elinebrock5660 he really was a very lovely soul.
It's amazing how varied Dolly Parton's fanbase is. From multi-millionaires on the Coasts to the Opry-loving family in Tennessee, everyone loves Dolly.
AND we are much more powerful than Beyoncé, Taylor Swift, Lady Gaga fans. If ANYONE dare comes for Dolly they are literally obliterated. The woman is literally nearly a perfect fng Saint. But people hate kind, good, giving, and successful people.
@@Michael-qb5hg Dolly is a legend.
@@Michael-qb5hg LOL Well I wouldn't mess with those fans..they are as crazy as any fan. And nobody hates Dolly..she is a World Icon
I was working on the NBC Universal stage 1.... happened to meet Conan.
He was "That" guy. Charming, kind and soooo funny.👍👍👍👍👍👍
Love Jane Fonda. She is soo classy and beautiful and a great role model. I hope she lives another twenty years.
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
This interview w Jane is great. 👍 She's great.
Really great conversation with respect, no interruptions when someone is speaking showing us the compatibility a little care everyone has for one another. Thank you Conan, Jane and friends.😊
Lily, Dolly, & Jane will be forever my Charlie's Angels.... 3 Musketeers. Legends. I will cherish them forever. Blessed to have them so long. Blessed Be! 💜
I've always loved Jane Fonda, she tells it like it is, no matter if unpopular or popular,
so with her, you know your getting the real Jane. She also has a special charisma
that really resonates with me. Long live Jane.
I've been fonda Jane since the '70's. 😉 Even tho she's part of a Hollywood dynasty -- nepo babe that she is -- she's not one to pull punches and always strives to be honest.
@@rrrusty49 She was certainly honest in North Vietnam!
@@Mrfairchap Yeah, there's still a lot of gullible, poorly educated clowns around who love whining like this maroon. 😂
Love Jane! What a Trail Blazer in all the right ways. Class act through and through and whip smart and beautiful too. Thank you Jane!
Love 9 to 5! It is a classic comedy! Never to be remade or done! Stands out to this day. It stays and belongs in the 1980’s as it should. Jane Fonda, Dolly Parton and Lily Tomlin are all phenomenal star powered leading ladies in it. 💜 😂
Women like Dolly Parton and Jane Fonda are the reason the word "grace" was required. It's a perfect description of something beautiful but formidable.
I love these conversations. These are just way more interesting than the late night formats. People being people. I like the business and respect the talent and story telling, but being a fanatic is just not my thing. I feel the hype around stardom serves no one really.
Agreed!
Jane Fonda has her finger on the pulse . So respectful and gracious, plenty to emulate here ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Jane Fonda you have been such an inspiration of integrity, intelligence, perseverance and strength for me ever since I was a teen working out with your cassette tape workouts! I just wanted to say Thank you for being someone worthy of admiration❤️
you can say whatever you want to say about Jane Fonda, she is an american icon.
Her entire family, three generations of movies alone.
🤢🤮
So is Benedict Arnold.
Darn right, she is!
YUP. Period.
What a great show ! I loved listening to these stories . John Candy ! omg , he was the real deal yes . I cried when he passed away . Felt like he was family . He was genuine
I was 9 when I saw 9 to 5 and all of these topics went over my head but when I see it now I think my God it was a groundbreaking movie. Kids these days love it but appreciate the fact that was the way things were. I met Dolly one time and she is a nice as Jane says she is.
Oh Jane…….I wish the academy would give you an Oscar for Julia. You were the beating heart of that movie. The women burns with emotional intelligence. Your loss Ted is our gain. (sorry couldn’t resist that)
Fonda, Streep, Lange, Rowlands….trail blazers!!!! ❤
It’s pretty amazing. She was famous back when Charles Manson was arrested 🤯, and she was blacklisted back then for support of equal rights for blacks and gays. The FBI had her watchlisted because they thought she was communist, which she isn’t. Very inspirational.
Fonda only became radicalized after living in France with the husband who cast her as sex kitten Barbarella, it was only after her return to America that she became activist.
She was blacklisted mainly because she spoke loudly AGAINST the Vietnam War, at that time, Government , WAS NOT Really Challenged, even speaking up to your Parents was Almost unheard of. Jane Fonda, used her Celebrity Power for "The Good of All" and she always has, she received A LOT of Backlash too. From Hollywood, But I'll venture to guess from her Father, as well.
@@loril.mangold8160 Jane was never actually blacklisted, in fact she did some of her best work & won the Oscar for Klute. America was @ war with itself in those days, culminating in students being murdered by National Guard @ Kent State in 1970. From the assassinations of the Kennedys & MLK to the Nixon impeachment, it was a crazy time, with Americans (esp. young ones) rioting in the streets over both Vietnam & Civil Rights of ALL kinds. & yes, Jane was in the thick of it, & no, Henry was NOT a proud poppa! Peter did his bit with Easy Rider, another sign of changing times & youth movement.
@@unowen-nh9ov BlackboxProd96 said she was blacklisted, maybe I did comment on that, I know she wasn't blacklisted like Washington was doing to many Actors, Sanctioned would be more the word, from Hollywood, and Yes I remember Kent State, and Klute, it's Good you remember All this too
The Dollmaker was an amazing series. I don't think it gets enough attention. Great interview.
Really? Where can I watch it?
Dolly is amazing. I have so much love and respect for that woman.
The best people one ever meets in life are not the ones who tell you who they are.....it is the ones that show you who they are and show you their true heart...💜💜💜
love the sincerity and humility of ms fonda. x
Jane Fonda is “Right On” and so incredible!
"9 to 5" is one of the best movies, it is one of my top ten. Back when people actually made going to the pictures a respectful, communal experience - my friend Dave told me when he saw "9 to 5" in the theatre, the moment Dolly Parton told off Dabney Coleman, the audience roared with applause and laughter.
Honestly, I hope someone sits down with Jane Fonda for as long as it takes and records everything she thinks, feels, and has lived -- there will not be another human being like her, ever ❤
If they can get her to sit still that long. She's indefatigable.
Thank G-d!
Thank goodness we will have no more of her. A soldier that made it out of capacity in North Korea gave his TRUE story of her giving a note a soldier gave to her to take home to his family. As soon as she left that soldier was beaten to death.
@@mrs.h4484 English not your language, huh?
@@mrs.h4484 English is not your native language?
Jane is 85 and still working. Wow.
i love her remarks about working environment nowadays! such a political thinker throughout her life!
Jane Fonda- what an icon! love her to pieces.
the podcast has conan doing the same thing hes been doing his entire life. he is an amazing interviewer, who can go from flula borg to michelle obama. he is truly one of a kind.
Dolly Parton is genuinely one of the nicest kindest people on the planet. ❤
I’ve never met her, but you just get the feeling that she is😁🥰
I feel blessed to be a baby boomer growing up in the 50's-70's and to have such great actresses and actors in our time.
Dolly Parton is a True Queen. 👑
Love this interview.. what a great lady ☺️
Back in 76 we went to Tennessee to see where my grandma came from. We went to see some cousins that lived in a one room cabin with a dirt floor and they fished with cane poles. It was a traumatic experience for a 10 year old who had a great appreciation for his grandparents who escaped that life. Grand ma still believed in the switch though. I miss you grandma
Fishing with a cane pole is one of the world's greatest pleasures.
Jane thanks for all you've done for women 👏
We definitely need more of such people like Jane and Conan.
I've always liked Jane Fonda. When I first discovered her she was a hippie with no desire to look glamorous. Conservatives were calling her Hanoi Jane. But I thought she was great when she spoke out against the military establishment. She went to North Vietnam and saw the life they lived. She talked about how the whole village would get up and meet in the town square and do their Tia Chi exercises. She spoke about how much better that was than sitting on our butts drinking coffee. Then later on she did the workout videos and she had the most incredible body. Way to go Jane. You're awesome.
@@stueycaster and then she handed over a note to a VC guard from an American POW pilot. He and several others were brutally executed. Know the whole story of her. Their memory deserves better and so do their families.
That has been proven to be false. Give it a rest.
It is absolutely true.
@@chrispoe8404 A person has to be poorly educated and gullible to have fallen for that bullshit, Chris boy. You know, it''s never too late to stop being the kind of person who falls for bullshit like that. Give it a shot. 😂
Dolly pardon is one of the most amazing people -
Its nice too see someone stick on his own value
I am in my 60's now and when I think of the things we had to "dance around " when we were young as just regular crap .It really is shocking now that bad behavior was just considered in some way acceptable . I think that 9 to 5 was funny because they were doing something about it .
Bet you got plenty of promotions over more qualified men
I wish her, Dolly, and Lilly would make another movie together!
Great conversation. Jane is the best 😊
I wasn't a huge fan of Conan when he had his talkshow for some reason it just never clicked for me.🤷♀️ I have to give this man his flowers though on this podcast. He's absolutely remarkable seems so genuine and down to earth and he lets his guest talk and tell their stories instead of cutting them off like other interviewers with their own stories. Plus anyone who idolized John Candy is top notch in my book. That man instantly makes me think of being wrapped in a warm blanket in front of a fireplace on a cold snowy day. He just makes everyone happy and I'd much rather leave this world putting smiles on people's faces when they remember me then sadness because I was a jerk to them.
I WEPT when John Cady died. I will do that same when Dolly goes! ❤
Man, I wish Dolly and John Candy had done a buddy cop movie.
I never thought of that but it's kind of interesting.
Me picturing Henry Fonda running from TMZ 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I met John candy in the airport and he gave me a hug:)
what a wonderful conversation
Jane Fonda is amazing and wow, her hair color with that blouse. She is an inspiration in her passions and her style.
Her and Dolly need to do a movie again
Sometimes example is more powerful than words. Great story from Jane❤️
Long Live Conan The Podcaster!
This conversation reminds me of the hilarious story Martin Short told Conan long ago about his meeting Lucille Ball on an airplane flight from LA to New York. Because 1) the difference between who you think a celebrity hero is and who they actually are in real life, and 2) John Candy appears in Martin's story, too. Again, hilarious.
What a great interview!
Jane Fonda's Dollmaker is an vivid emotional tour into the lives of an era . She as an actor hits hardest where she extends to high heaven with an axe. She is portraying a moment ...it's just the work she does...but woe, she is taking the viewer . Great piece of American womanhood wrapped up in that movie.
Jane Fonda is so fascinating - everything she says is always worth listening to.
The Doll Maker was just one of the best movies ever
I am in love with Jane Fonda.
She's incredible.
Jane Fonda, is so SMART she should have a PHD. Behind he name, and I used to love fireside Fridays, she just knows sooo much, and gets involved, she IS EVOLVED, And Beautiful in her Heart as Well as what you see, A very kind Classy Lady
What a fun interview. Jane Fonda seems so genuine and lovely, a person who cares. In my younger life I wanted to pursue acting. I did a lot of background work on films. I started to see the same faces over and over again on production crews. It will always stick with me who were the nice, endearing stars and who just seemed insecure and nasty. I could name names of both after working on quite a few films, but I won't name the nasty ones. My hope is that I met them on a bad day and my impression was possibly wrong. It is such a memorable pleasure to meet a successful star and have them be a lovely human being. I totally agree with what Conan said about meeting one of his favorites.
Oh this was so good! Thank you all.
It takes a lot for a celebrity to express so well how much they admire another celebrity.
Lovw CoCo.Its nice too see someone stick on his own value
Conan's just real 👍👍
Conan appeared in my daughter’s high school yearbook, in a photo with two of her classmates taken on the street innNew York. Made me do a double take!
I hope I get to meet Conan one day.
I love how in touch Jane is with the real business world, even though that was not her career world. She is spot on !
Jane Fonda and Dolly Parton are two American treasures. 9 to 5 was a fantastic film. Too bad it's message didn't get through to everyone, because women are STILL fighting harder than they should for equality.
Jane looks great and is a wonderful speaker from her heart, it's hard to imagine her & Dolly touring impoverished areas-- Dolly came from there, but it's really something that Jane would do what she did! I wonder what the people thought, had to be a strange and hopefully, good experience for all of them!
These types of women want to experience life. Fearless.
JULIA (1977) with Jane Fonda is my favorite film. But Vanessa Redgrave's performance as Julia shines in a film filled with great performances. Set in the 1930's, the themes of anti-fascism, friendship, art and theater are blended to perfection. It captures the plight of a writer, Lillian Hellman/Fonda, as she struggles with her first play. We see Hellman walking on the beach and in the background the turbulent ocean waves are churning like the thoughts in her head. The apogee is the fraught scene between Hellman and Julia in a Berlin tavern as Hellman smuggles in cash for anti-Nazi activities, and while Fonda is excellent, Fonda herself said Redgrave's performance was on an entirely elevated level.
I am so glad she learnt the most valuable lesson from Dolly. Dolly is the real deal; A Superstar with a humble heart. I love Dolly.
I can’t imagine being famous, especially now. It must be hell. I don’t know how people endure it.
I remember Barefoot in the park. Our family went to see that movie at a drive in theater. We loved it
Thank you for your energy!
I love Jane. But, I already shed tears for Dolly. She's older than I by a couple of decades. I hope she outlives me so that I have to mourn for a year... She's a Betty White in my life. Been here forever, will live and do good works forever.
What a great interview..Jane likes Conan and she's giving lots of info.
She is honestly...personified.....
Need to download for my all my time movie collection! Will always be one of my favorite movies!
JANE FONDA!!!!!! 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
She’s a very interesting woman and she also seems like a very nice person ! 🌸🌺
Dolly Parton is of the same caliber as Betty White... Genuine, real, and absolutely caring.