I picked up an Arcana 4K for this reason. I got it for $100 on Marketplace. Works perfectly. Everything looks better but I do have to get into the nitty gritty setting my LS12000 projector to get the best picture. I have 3 sources, Zidoo z9x Pro, Xbox 360 and Apple TV 4K 3rd Gen all work great for dolbyvision. The Arcana sends the HDR tags so it is auto as opposed to even a Vertex 1 that ytou need to manually set HDR.
Just thinkin out loud here. There is a much cheaper way of doing this (if using a PC). Anyone of a dozen different HDMI duplicators can do it as long as it has adjustable/controllable/select-able "EDID" function. Then on the software side, MadVR (which is free) with any media player that can use it (Jriver, MPC-HC, KMPlayer, etc). In MadVR you can control tone mapping and luminance values along with calibration of both if you so choose. On the much more expensive side, you can purchase a stand alone MadVR box/interface that gives the same basic functions and control but in a separate stand alone box. This is how I do it, Jriver and MadVR in my PC talking to my LG TV and done. But it will work with projectors as well as long as you have hardware EDID control. Cheers 🍻
@@joentell : That's why I mentioned the stand alone MadVR box. Much like this HD Fury box, just more expensive but with more control. The easiest and cheapest way of doing this is to just use a PC. It's all the same thing in the end, just more or less control for the money. The PC gives the most control for the least cost in total. It does everything the stand alone hardware can do, and much more! All of my purchased optical disk movies exist on hard drives and that is my usual source. The physical disks live in my attic, in soo many boxes! When I want to watch Dolby Vision though, I can only truly get that with a physical disk in a physical player and that's really the only down side to the method. HDR 10/+ is easy, everything pretty much does that much already. Dolby Vision, not so easy..... But that's why I have a (DP-UB820) bluray player for those occasions when I have a Dolby Vision movie to watch and want to see it in exactly that color space. Still rec 2020, and yet D/V is still different. I hope that makes sense. Cheers 🍻
@@Finite-Tuning so, to be clear, you can't use the PC running the free MadVR software to use a different source as an HDMI input, correct? The source has to be the PC itself.
@@joentell : Yes, all media must be played through the PC in a media player that uses MadVR. The PC is the source, yes. The only additional hardware is an HDMI port duplicator with EDID function. And that is only necessary "if" using a display device (projector, old TV) that is not already HDR capable.
Or you could just use an ezycoo sp12h2 for like a third of the price or less to do something similar in a little bit less user friendly manner (only works for projectors you can force into HDR)
I had someone try the EZCOO on their Epson and they spent a few days working on it and couldn't get good results for some reason. They are very technical, so I'm not sure what the issue is. They were getting either a pink screen or an image that looked bad.
@joentell sounds like they need the firmware update off the avsforum. It says 5040 but works with the 5050 as well. I believe it makes the colour format compatible.
@@joentell that’s from using the wrong DV format if you get a pinkish purple sometimes red screen. You need to use Profile 5 Low Latency Dolby Vision (LLDV) which is known as “Player Led” because the player decodes the DV info. If you send display led DV then it relies on the display/projector to do the decoding and if it doesn’t have that capability built in then it will result in that pink/red/purple screen because it is sending the signal in an eight bit RGB tunnel, which only the proper display can unpack.
Although many don't like them an example of a blue ray player that can do player led are the 700 and 800 series Sony's. They sometimes have issues with 100gb discs which I've had a varied experience with. Good image though..
a dune2 with HDfuryroad vision ? i'm confused and frankly i don't care for dolby's vision , picture colour is picture colour just manufactures making it confusing and maybe movies are on the down and studios looking for new angles to sell , sell to keep the filthy mega rich studios , i'm not interested its just another colour manipulation
@@joentell yes I’ve been on AVS almost since the very beginning. I knew the owners and worked for AV Science, the original founder and owner of the forum. They’re owned by Vertical Scope now.
I picked up an Arcana 4K for this reason. I got it for $100 on Marketplace. Works perfectly. Everything looks better but I do have to get into the nitty gritty setting my LS12000 projector to get the best picture. I have 3 sources, Zidoo z9x Pro, Xbox 360 and Apple TV 4K 3rd Gen all work great for dolbyvision. The Arcana sends the HDR tags so it is auto as opposed to even a Vertex 1 that ytou need to manually set HDR.
Thanks! All we need is a manufacturer to come up with a £/$1000 unit that can dynamically tone map via Ai and LLDV and it'll be a sell out! 🤤
Just thinkin out loud here. There is a much cheaper way of doing this (if using a PC). Anyone of a dozen different HDMI duplicators can do it as long as it has adjustable/controllable/select-able "EDID" function. Then on the software side, MadVR (which is free) with any media player that can use it (Jriver, MPC-HC, KMPlayer, etc). In MadVR you can control tone mapping and luminance values along with calibration of both if you so choose. On the much more expensive side, you can purchase a stand alone MadVR box/interface that gives the same basic functions and control but in a separate stand alone box.
This is how I do it, Jriver and MadVR in my PC talking to my LG TV and done. But it will work with projectors as well as long as you have hardware EDID control.
Cheers 🍻
What if you want to watch something where the PC is not the source?
@@joentell :
That's why I mentioned the stand alone MadVR box. Much like this HD Fury box, just more expensive but with more control. The easiest and cheapest way of doing this is to just use a PC. It's all the same thing in the end, just more or less control for the money. The PC gives the most control for the least cost in total. It does everything the stand alone hardware can do, and much more!
All of my purchased optical disk movies exist on hard drives and that is my usual source. The physical disks live in my attic, in soo many boxes! When I want to watch Dolby Vision though, I can only truly get that with a physical disk in a physical player and that's really the only down side to the method. HDR 10/+ is easy, everything pretty much does that much already. Dolby Vision, not so easy..... But that's why I have a (DP-UB820) bluray player for those occasions when I have a Dolby Vision movie to watch and want to see it in exactly that color space. Still rec 2020, and yet D/V is still different.
I hope that makes sense.
Cheers 🍻
@@Finite-Tuning so, to be clear, you can't use the PC running the free MadVR software to use a different source as an HDMI input, correct? The source has to be the PC itself.
@@joentell :
Yes, all media must be played through the PC in a media player that uses MadVR. The PC is the source, yes. The only additional hardware is an HDMI port duplicator with EDID function. And that is only necessary "if" using a display device (projector, old TV) that is not already HDR capable.
Or you could just use an ezycoo sp12h2 for like a third of the price or less to do something similar in a little bit less user friendly manner (only works for projectors you can force into HDR)
I had someone try the EZCOO on their Epson and they spent a few days working on it and couldn't get good results for some reason. They are very technical, so I'm not sure what the issue is. They were getting either a pink screen or an image that looked bad.
@joentell sounds like they need the firmware update off the avsforum. It says 5040 but works with the 5050 as well. I believe it makes the colour format compatible.
@@joentell that’s from using the wrong DV format if you get a pinkish purple sometimes red screen. You need to use Profile 5 Low Latency Dolby Vision (LLDV) which is known as “Player Led” because the player decodes the DV info. If you send display led DV then it relies on the display/projector to do the decoding and if it doesn’t have that capability built in then it will result in that pink/red/purple screen because it is sending the signal in an eight bit RGB tunnel, which only the proper display can unpack.
@davidharper5976 I will relay this info to the person testing out the Ezcoo
Although many don't like them an example of a blue ray player that can do player led are the 700 and 800 series Sony's. They sometimes have issues with 100gb discs which I've had a varied experience with. Good image though..
a dune2 with HDfuryroad vision ? i'm confused and frankly i don't care for dolby's vision , picture colour is picture colour just manufactures making it confusing and maybe movies are on the down and studios looking for new angles to sell , sell to keep the filthy mega rich studios , i'm not interested its just another colour manipulation
I am the one who founded this LLDV with HDFury “hack” if you have any questions?
Are you on AVS? I saw a few people there who were extremely knowledgeable. I wonder if one of them was you.
@@joentell yes I’ve been on AVS almost since the very beginning. I knew the owners and worked for AV Science, the original founder and owner of the forum. They’re owned by Vertical Scope now.
@@joentell I don’t see my earlier reply to you. Did it show up?