Autopsy Reveals Kiely Rodni's Death Accidental, Foul Play Ruled Out
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- Опубликовано: 3 май 2024
- Over a month after the body of missing 16-year-old Kiely Rodni was found inside her car underwater in a lake, a California coroner has released the results of the autopsy. The Law&Crime Network's Jesse Weber breaks it down with former death investigator Joseph Scott Morgan.
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What makes me sick is the fact that when they put a drone over the position the car was at, you could clearly see it underwater.
You could clearly see a silver colored object under the surface.
And yet people claimed that that body of water was searched thoroughly.
Just imagine if Doug had thought: Yup, it has been searched, no need to check again.
She wouldn't have been found for another period of time. Maybe never,.
something a dope user would make up
The water wasn't that clear when it happened.
What if she wasn’t in the water at the time. That could be why they didn’t find her. I still think it was not accidental
When the coroner is the sheriff, there's an issue. The information stated in the autopsy report rules out the possibility of her drowning.
Wait, is this true?!?
@@essr758 yes, and she is the public administrator aswell
The autopsy was done by a physician.
@@tracyhaverstick5672 I was done by the coroner.
This is a clear cut cover up.
Her being found in the back tells me she was alive and awake when the car went in. Most victims of accidents where the car goes into water (unless knocked unconscious from a fall or impact) are found in the back as the engine in the front pulls it down into the water the front fills first. People tend to crawl away from it to stay in air causing them to end up dying in the back.
Agreed AWP has mentioned before that when a victim is found in the back, or even the "trunk" area of an SUV it doesn't necessarily mean there is foul play. That if they take off their seat belt the body can move in the vehicle. That was why I was surprised when they found her the one guy who dived (newish diver in AWP) seemed to indicate otherwise.
But when there is a window down completely and a another window half way down she would have swam out.
She was found behind the backseat something ain't right.
Everybody's an expert these days
@@J.C... I’m only passing on what I’ve learned from experts. I do not claim to be one myself.
This makes me sick. I can’t imagine accepting this as a parent.
i agree with you even tho im not a parent i would not accept this ....
I think I might be able to handle it as an accident more so than thinking someone was out there, living life after killing my child.
Why not bc it doesn't fit in with the conspiracies? A 16 yr old drunk high or both goes into the water becomes disoriented and drowned. Sometimes it's just a tragic accident. Jolissa Fuentes was found 2 months later her car went over a cliff another tragic accident but it didn't stop YT channels on and on with conspiracies and rabbit holes.
@@dianedavidson7977 I’m sure alcohol did play in to effect…..Too many weird things have happened during the investigation. Like how many man hours & agencies it took for them not fo find her 10 feet deep exactly where her phone pinged or the fact they didn’t take her belongings and laptop out. No one knows where her phone is.. as a parent, I wouldn’t be at peace with that, no. I would have a lot more questions.
It's fake. These are witches in a cult.
The fact that the coroner is also the Sheriff & Public Relations Officer told me they were going to say this was an accident. I think it's a conflict of interest that this office ever handled the autopsy especially when Sammi is a child of the local law enforcement. I don't believe Keilly did anything to herself and that her friends killed her. All the time line doesn't match and they have not exposed who called roadside? Why did law enforcement deliberately mislead the investigation knowing a witness told them where that car was at? I think it will come to light that she was murdered by her friends. It was a cover up..
Also she was found naked and in the back seat. With windows down.
It upset me they cremated her .. when I heard they did i was really upset because it leaves more room for speculation and doesn’t necessarily look good they’re the only ones who did an autopsy prior to that. And it wasn’t supposed to be released / discussed til nov 1 I thought ? So if autopsy leads to accident what does AWP have to say that made them feel It was foul play ?
There are so many times where corruption is proven many years later. I pray it is sooner than later.
I don’t feel they should continue to mess with the body and she could have drowned but it does not feel accidental.
The Placer county coroner, Dr Gregory Reiber, did the autopsy.
This is coming from the same agency that was beyond inept in their handling of the entire investigation. Especially considering that sheriff deputies children were present at the party. Why didn’t they look into her “EX” claiming on social media the sheriffs department told him to receive tips from people to give to them? I live around the area and it’s definitely weird. Maybe it was simply an accident. Regardless may this young lady Rest In Peace.
That kid jagger is a bum I’m gonna run his fade
I still believe the ex and maybe his gf too had something to do with it. I believe they murdered her!!
where did you hear the sheriffs, kids were at the party?
@@ililxaphanlili2600Right? But also weren't there like 300 kids at this party? I'm not familiar with the area, but depending on the size of it I'd be willing to assume that a wide range of kids in this age group might be there, so the sheriff's kids being there may not be that big of a thing. Just a coincidence.
Put five of those so called experts in each a different room and ask them the same question , and each of them will give a different answer
i think there is a rightful distrust between the police, coroner and the public. we should continue to distrust them because it is when we trust them that people get away with crimes.
Especially when the police is also the judge and medical examiner.
@@sarahdooley6164 The Placer County Coroner, Dr Gregory Reiber, not Nevada County Coroner, Shannan Moon, did the autopsy. So now we have 2 counties, plus the FBI, plus mortuary services all conspiring to hide something? Say hi to Alex Jones for me.
Just like the government, FDA, CDC, Pfizer, doctors and hospitals.
What ? The girl was drunk and driving. Why is this someone else’s fault?
@@Ellie80681 she was found in the back seat and so everyone seems to think the coroner is wrong. thats a good thing because it seems like the coroner didn't make himself clear so he will probably be forced to try again or get someone else to confirm his findings. also it was believed there was foul play way before they found her car because there was a fight of sorts at the party she was at.
No water in her lungs, but it’s an accident?!?! This is a huge coverup.
@Kitten in the Moon Tells a story...Annie Borjesson found on the beach here with FRESH water in her lungs! She was last seen going into an airport, used by the CIA transferring the worst of the worst to Guantanimo Bay,and her surname is the same Investigative journalist, Kristina Borjesson,the woman famed for investigating the downing of TWA 800 in 1996 by the US Navy...if that doesn't raise red flags,and makes me a "conspiracy theorist",well,so be it?
You seem to have missed the information the doc shared. Weighted lungs means lungs made heavy due to water. He spent 5-min explaining the significance of how "drowning" is determined in human pathology. Maybe you should listen again?
@@beaulah_califa9867 will do!
I guess they don't know how to listen. Obviously she drowned
No It was accident .. she went to the back as vehicle went down not uncommon … most likely what happened .. as she tried to get get water rising holding her breath she passed out .. then died and why no water in her lungs ..if your knocked out it’s shuts off your larynx .. airway . No water got in her lungs .. I carry one of those Things that can break the glass and cut the seat belt off . Just in case after seeing so many go down in water .. you never know ! I can swim .. RIP. a prayers for the family and hope they find peace and comfort ! Hope they accept this was a accident and there was not any foul play … Hate when people try to start up theory’s . 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I will never believe there wasn't foul play...
Wow. Hopefully you will never end up on a jury.
honestly i belive there is foul play involved ... for sure she was in the back of the car... like srsly
@@VioletJoy hopefully more people like OP, Terri, will end up on a jury. They’re the kind of people that will get Kiely justice. Its kinda weird that anyone wouldn’t want that.
@@simonehelenmyrslett well, that, among the many many other concerning discrepancies all indicating foul play
I just dont understand how she ended up in the back of the car. I mean, she must have gotten to the back of the vehicle when trying to escape?
Flipping the car underwater while Kiely was in it could have caused damage to her body too, yet not even that was noted.
I do t believe therewas a body. This case is so messy. And so is the cover up. There has to be a democrat involved. Matter of fact remids me of Clinton's cover ups. I believe she's alive. She's on Epstien Island or the secret Island at Disneyland???
The FBI needs to investigate this local PD... there is a definitely a huge cover up going on
FBI is busy going after prolifers,and "terrorists".
Cover up of what exactly? What would be their motivation to lie?
@@dragonsky799 it's a very small town where everyone knows everyone.. a daughter from a member of local law enforcement was friends witwith Kiely... this Police Department shouldn't have been allowed to be directly involved in this investigation because it was conflict of interest.. many small towns in America have very very corrupt police departments..
@@dragonsky799 either a police officer or a police officer's family member is responsible for her murder.. that's why they would cover it up
@@stevengallant6363 Whatever you say dude. Lol
I was thinking that the whole thing was an accident at first because she was at a party where there was under age drinking, drugs and driving home afterwards. They did find THC and alcohol in her system saying that she could have accidentally drove into the lake drunk and drowned. The only reason I decided to change my mind on it not being an accident is because it's very strange that the team of divers that weren't even connected to the police in any way were the ones to find her deceased at the bottom of the lake in her car. The weird thing about that is the fact that the police claimed to have looked all through that lake with their own drivers and even helicopters and they said that they never found anything yet the team of drivers that were seperate from the police investigation were the ones to find her. I feel like the police lied about searching the lake and not finding her. The police know something. They are either covering for one of their sons that was involved or a police officer who was involved in her murder. It very well could have been an accident, but it's just so odd that the police claimed that they searched that entire lake where her body and car were found and they came up empty handed. Then to make matters even stranger were the hoodies that she wore at the party. The first hoodie read "odd future" and the second hoodie she borrowed from a friend that night had a Lana del Rey quote about wanting to disappear, but not wanting to be forgotten. What a strange coincidence... Hopefully someone does the right thing and their conscience kicks in and they come forward. Her family deserve answers...
No alcohol was found her ethanol levels were high. This can be part of the decomposition of the body. However, no water in the lungs is a huge red flag. The levels of THC weren't discussed, and it stays in the body for up to 72 hours. Her being in the rear of the car could be a sign she struggled to get out through the back seat area. It's still very strange. As a diver, it's very easy to become confused in murky water. But we can work out which way is up. It is all very strange that the case was closed so quickly.
AWP specializes in this type of recovery, and has the equipment, too. Local areas don't do as good a job as the AWP team.
Did have the Policeman a son???
@@manaboutthehouse9405this isn’t a conspiracy. Multiple people saw her drinking and smoking. For a 16 year old substances affect them differently.
Exactly 😢
All this means is that she was not dead when she went into the water. So she breathed in water and drowned. She could have been passed out.
If the car were upside down and she were in the drivers seat, she would have floated up to the floor. There is very little room between the top of the back seat and the roof of the car, I doubt she could have forced her way into the cargo hold very easily.
Also, I have heard she was tethered down in the cargo area with a third seat seatbelt, which was sticking out of the hatch.
My guess is she passed out from intoxication, "friends" thought she was dead, panicked, threw her in the cargo hold of her car and tossed the car into the lake. The authorities want this case gone. I don't trust them.
We’ll never know how Kielys remains were found, unless the footage from AWPs discovery was viewed by the ME. However they list her being in a certain position upon when THEY arrived on shore, so I’ll assume they didn’t view the footage! I’ll never understand why the ME even reported her body position, b/c that didn’t matter after the FBI flipped her car underwater & jostled her remains about! I’d hope Kielys case goes down as the most botched investigation & recovery in history….b/c I’d hate to see ones remains treated so disrespectfully & undignified again. Kielys vehicle was the only “crime scene” LE had, and they treated it as if it were an old empty vehicle that needed towed out during a lake cleanup!
Clearly, a few buoys and a lifting crane to keep the car in the 'as is' position wouldn't have been overkill after more than 10000 hours of man labor...
Love to hear Joseph's intelligent information. Prayers for the family
If this was an accident, what about the kid that was in the car with her when the guy showed up to help with getting the car started? Why didn't he come forward long ago and say "Hey, I was in the car with her, we couldn't get it started, called for help, she later dropped me off at X location and she kept going and was alone.."? Instead, everyone is left wondering who the person was that was in the vehicle with her.....
I still don’t believe it was an accident, and I’m no conspiracy theorist. I find it hard to believe people don’t understand why we don’t trust, when you see everything going on in the world, and what people are capable of. I also feel like her friends, or friend shouldn’t have left her. Her own towns sheriffs office has been in a news investigation, for hiding a serial killer. There is tons of corruption there.
I totally agree with you.
I had two friends die from stupidity in their cars at the age of 16 to 18-one alcohol induced, the other reckless driving,. It’s extremely common in this young age, FAR more common than homicide. I don’t even know anyone who was murdered, but everyone knows someone who got themselves killed (or killed themselves)
@@AdamsBrew78 Drugs & alcohol were most likely involved, but no accident.
It's crazy how her best friend Sami's parents are both criminal lawyers..Sami was the "leader" in the search and she told everyone that the police told her to go thru her with tips or info. So she could weed out the false info. 3 cops stated that no one ever told her that.
youd be surprised how much this happens, completely accidentally. she had sh1tty friends but thats not a crime on their part - though knowingly leaving an intoxicated friend with her keys and intent to drive if it could be proven they knew she was gonna drive seems like it should hold some charge :/
Stop. You can't have it both ways. You say you are not into conspiracies... but then say it wasn't an accident with having ANY proof otherwise to back up your claim.
Please continue to follow this and find the truth this town is corrupt and things don't add up there needs to have justice for Kiely.
I know that in any of these small towns they do NOT have the cream of the crop 'professionals' and a STRENGTH is to defer if you do not have the skill level for task at hand
@@teresaslo I feel like they did everything they could to compromise the case, when the sheriff is the coroner and the public administrator therefore are no checks and balances. The town has a long history of corruption.
Thanks for that mention of Body Bags on podcast! Can’t wait to listen!
So grateful for the search team. You guys are wonderful. So glad she was found.
AWP is the best ever
@@rachaelleann9847 This didn't age well.
Corruption is a thing. And it cannot be tolerated. Especially not when coming from officials. They must be removed.
I think the police need to talk to the tow truck dude again. In the video we see the vehicule go in water the night of the party.
Someone's lying.
The autopsy says her lungs weigh only 100 and 110 grams and NO water in lungs. For her size and age an ME said IF drowned should be 400 and 450 grams. NO WAY drowned
If she didn’t drown then clearly foul play and a cover up.
Where did you get a copy of the autopsy?
@@Lurthatgurl Plunder here on RUclips , it's 18 pages long and includes her toxicology report as well .
@@rashaebaby I highly doubt that Plunder would get it before Law and Crime.
There is such a thing as a dry drowning. It happens when cold water causes breathing passages to constrict and not let water into the lungs.
Remember, those deputies flipped her car back over, underwater, with Kiely in it. So that’s not how she originally was in her vehicle. So we have to cross that bad info out. She also was cremated already.
Too many unanswered questions to rule this case an accident. An independent autopsy needs to be done by the parents.
I livede in a small rural community, cops can get away with so much more. Just because of the good boy attitude..they are kings in their community. At one point I had a sheriff cause me a lot of problems because I wouldn't go out with him. Went to a lawyer who told me to write down very thing he would do. Keep track of the date, time and get witness signatures if possible. After a few months was able to take this information to the District Attorney. This attorney also said these guys can make you disappear. I took him seriously. That was over 36 years ago and I'm still here. But he lost his job and had to move.
This was so educational, yet so dark. Great work
Oh she had a little weed so we will rule this one an accident. This whole case stinks of a cover up. This young girl deserves justice.
Yeah hard to trust professionals these days 🤦♂️. We want more to this story and they go ahead and just burn the body. That is more than fine. Hope it was the families decision. Just super tragic. Go many cases like these. Happened to another boy and the police also failed to find the body. Took the same dive team to fine and they found him right away but after getting permission to search the pond and that took so long.
Dang... Some little girls go bonkers from weed and they don't even know it....
She was drinking and she was high. And it was dark. She took a wrong turn into the water, why is that so hard to believe? Have you never seen a drunk person walk.... You think they're very competent to drive? It's a crime for a reason. Come on.
Leave the family alone to mourn. They chose to cremate, they believe the autopsy. They know their kid. Put it to rest.
@@Shastasnow her FAMILY chose to have her cremated. This isn't a conspiracy. You're all just bored.
Oh and she was also drunk. She had caffeine, nicotine, THC and ethanol, with a blood alcohol volume over the legal limit.
Sounds like a recipe for a car accident.
The Sheriff is also the Coroner and why not add Public administrator too! I still believe there is foul play and cover up. RIP Kiely
But the Pathologist did her autopsy- not the coroner
These results are preliminary.. Currently, toxicology results can take between four to six months. Once the additional testing is completed, the pathologist can amend the death certificate, if needed, with the final cause of death.
They turned it under water, her position upon being viewed in the car after its brought out means nothing.
THANKS
Did say anything about water in her lungs. Alcohol level low. But to drunk as to pass 2 open windows. Let's not forget car was flipped two times so leg position doesn't matter. The water was 76 degrees. She knew that place like the back of her hand. So she knew the roads. This was a lost cause from day one. Now LE and Lawyers kids get to go live their happy lives.
Right? “We were sharing the same drinks” “she was too drunk and I found another ride” liiieeees
Your lungs don't really fill with water when you drown. You instinctively close your airway so you never actually take in big breaths of water. Once you pass out it starts to trickle in but it takes a long time to fully penetrate the lungs.
They also said there was no water in her lungs!!! Her body was floating!
To me, she was sitting in the back seat, and someone else drove the car. The driver's window was fully down, which tells me whoever drove that car got out, and left her there. And this is beyond cruel.
The car was found upside down
@@skull2470 I know, but what does that matter?
@@SerenaSan86 if it was just driven into the water normally it would usually be upright but somehow the car is flipped.
@@skull2470 Correct, that's what usually happens. The car keeps floating for a while, but once it is sinking, it often turns upside down as the wheels, with all the air in them, keep it buoyant.
@@SerenaSan86 so it may mean the window was broken before she drove into the water.
They botched the investigation so badly they had no other choice but to rule it accidental because no way would any type of criminal charge ever have a leg to stand on. Defense attorneys would wipe the floor with them 😂
Keily had a drivers permit she shouldn't have been driving past 11pm. Wonder if auto insurance company will do their own investigation too.
I followed this case since the beginning and i always thought that it was obvious that the reason the kids at the party didn’t speak out was because there was drugs and alcohol involved. I never thought that the kids are all working together to hide info about death. I just still believe that some stuff don’t add up. Why did the police not find the car when they searched the area that she was found in? So many questions
thats a good point , if they were the ones to give her drinks or drugs they feel like its their fault even if it was accidental ..
The car was in 14 feet of water so it wasn't visible to the naked eye, it was a new accident which means sonar has a tendency to skitter on the shiny surfaces and it appears that nothing is there.
Is this the same case where she was drinking the same drinks as her friend, who seemed very odd about incoming tips? Is it also the same one where the car wasn't found by the police, but by adventures with purpose? Right off the shore, and then more items were still easily visible from the shore, left by the police, after AWP did their job for them... I feel like I seen something about the sheriff being the coroner too. But I see a Lot of reports about murders. Everywhere... All the time. A lot of them are unsolved still. Mostly because of botched police investigating. Stay Safe Everyone ❣️ Watch out for your friends and family.
Autopsy says no alcohol, just thc
Exactly. There was hardly enough alcohol in her system to make her drive into a lake. Too many shady mishaps in this case. Something stinks bad! The fact that the party all the sudden stopped a couple hours in and everyone hurried out of there, the kids were told to mind their business, the police not finding the car right off of shore, Sammy's take and statements about everything, the sheriff also being the coroner? A blood alcohol level of just over the limit? This girl did not accidentally drive into that water.
@Charlene Tull, @Tara Wierzba: The podcast guest said the report noted she had ethanol (the form of alcohol found in booze) at .088, a level above the legal limit to be defined drunk. Nothing yet to find out how much was from her drinking vs decomposition. How did you miss 10:24?
Is there anyway that someone else was driving and that person was able to get out of the car. But Kiely was to impaired to escape? This case is really wierd. I've heard all kinds of stories about this.
Anything is possible but it's all speculation at this point.
TOO impaired?
@Jessica Adams - Of course! That`s the whole point!!!
No. It's not possible. There is no evidence to suggest that whatsoever.
If Kiely's family can accept the autopsy results, why can't a bunch of strangers?
@@tishwitch Bcs there was a crime committed.
At this point, it doesn't matter what one of her parents thinks (and we all know ONE parent still believe in FL).
The truth is ALL that matter.
The law, regulations, procedures and protocols must be followed.
The coroner is the sheriff right? This is why the medical examiner/coroner/sheriff should not be the same person.
And why conspiracy theorists need to make a new life for themselves and learn to 🤐🤥
Yes, she is Sheriff-Coroner-Public Administrator, complete conflict of interest (among 1258 other stuff).... 🙄
Coroner and medical examiner TOTALLY DIFFERENT
@@tracienieto2722 usually it is. But in that county, they are one in the same. Yes I understand the difference between a coroner and a medical examiner, however since their rolls are the same concerning listing a cause of death, the fact that ruling this an accident by the sheriff/coroner it not only closes the case, but it also just happens to take all the “heat” off that department. Which is why they should NEVER be the same person. It’s bad enough that we have a system in place that allows someone with no medical background or training to make monumental rulings like cause of death be elected to such a position is outrageous. The amount of potential damage caused by this situation is insane. But then you compound this exponentially by making the sheriff and the coroner the same person. It shouldn’t happen.
@@VikinGingerGiant but the medical examiner determines cause of death
Can you revisit this case. It was said that the autopsy said there was no water in her lungs and stomach. If this is the case then she was dead already. Someone stated it was said it was a dry drowning. Can you confirm with the autopsy?
Ya there's to many red flags with this case. Imo. Fact that windows was down and and she was said to be naked and in back seat.
The autopsy was performed by Placer County Coroner, Dr Gregory Reiber. So now you believe we have 2 counties in on this conspiracy?
Thank you. I knew they said that. I got called a liar on Twitter and people yelling at me that AWP never said that! I think she was taken advantage of in the backseat of her own CRV by a boy of a higher ranking chief of law enforcement. He went to far & pushed her limits to the worst! Sammi knew he was back there with her. Kiely was probably sleeping off the alcohol when he decided to be POS and Sammi encouraged him. Sammi knows the Tow Truck Driver. When those cars stopped at the bottom with the loud speaker, that was a distraction. The tow truck driver went another way. He towed Kiely’s car out there. He put windows down. Headlights on cars and SUVS don’t go out that fast when they go under water.
Dry drowning isn't a medical term and is not used in autopsy reports so it just says drowning. When you drown your airway shuts, then you lose consciousness quickly so your lungs don't typically fill with water immediately. Your stomach doesn't take on water either since it's normally closed off (you have to swallow) unlike your airway which is normally open. Her stomach was mostly intact and had some peas and beans in it. I believe they concluded it was drowning because they could find no other possible causes and she was found underwater. She also had THC and possibly alcohol in her system so intoxication may have played a role.
@@rachaelleann9847 she was not naked. She was fully clothed with 1 shoe in the backseat, and one on her foot. Stop lying. It doesn't help anyone to perpetrate conspiracy garbage.
the headlights were on in the car and would have worked for a period of time after entering the lake if its on the fire cam they were on a long while so she would see which ways is out of her car
really accidental smashed window, found in the back back of the SUV I did not see airbags deployed and she was so far off the road in a odd location and no injuries on her face something stinks here
RIP YOUNG LADY How sad some ppl are
So does this mean that Adventures with Purpose will finally revive the reward money from the GoFund me account that her mother refused to give them for finding her?!?!
Nope the Mama still mad they found her.
@@FloridaMegan I'm not understanding why?iv been trying to catch up on this has her mom voiced why?
@@FloridaMegan makes absolutely no sense. Did she want to live in the fantasy world she was kidnapped like she said in the beginning?! Her father was even there and thanked AWP when she was found.
@@phoenixcavaliers Perhaps. Mom might have been getting a lot of sympathy that she was enjoying. But with a body, can have a funeral and closure instead of long, drawn out pity party
@@tammydubell7186 Of course not. They all knew from the day 1 that Kiely is not alive any more.
GoFund was meant to stay there as much as possible.
Also her car was meant to stay under the water (NOT to be found) - as long as possible.
``Mom`s business`` at the Lost Trail Lodge was put on sale, but aftEr the K disappearance - now it`s back on work.
GoFundme was originally created to collect money to help FIND the poor girl.
But AFTER AWP found her - it was changed to SUPPORT FOR THE FAMILY.
As long as GFM was on - more money would of been raised!
But AWP found her too soon, so..... that`s why she was p****.
Accidental? That’s fishier than the lake
One day this will be reopened and the truth will be revealed! Those involved will pay!!!
Those with money to hush things up...rarely pay
The only one to blame is Kiely.
Exactly we talked about this before. Same story different forest. Crying shame this beautiful human did not deserve this
I’m as old as her and I live close to her too this is horrible I feel so bad for her family
so where were you when this happened?
Assuming Kiely drove herself into the lake.....why can't people admit to the great possibility that she could have been driven into the lake by someone else? There appears to be at least 2 vehicles waiting nearby after her CRV disappeared in the lake. Come on! If you can't see that I suggest you get an eye checkup soon.
Just because I can imagine something doesn't make it real. I need actual evidence for that.
If you look at the maps of that surrounding area and analyze the actual distance between those vehicles they were not that close to her vehicle and stay on the main paved road and didn't go down that route that leads to the shoreline.
Her vehicle was traveling around 10-15 mph at a steady speed after a short pause at the fork in the road. The vehicle also makes a slight right turn before hitting the water which indicates they tried to avoid the water and couldn't stop in time due to the slope and the speed they were traveling.
I find it hard to believe that someone would risk their own life to drive onto a reservoir at that speed and not even roll down the driver's side window to ensure they had two ways to escape the vehicle.
Didn't Sammi's own sister say she came home soaking wet that night?
Yea I imagined it.....doesn't mean that's what actually happened. People seem to have an infatuation with conspiracy theories.
Also where are the results from the fingerprints in the car????
Did he just call this girl, built.... Twice? Not sure if he's seeing the same girl. But then again, after hearing how awful this "agency" was in the investigation of her death. Prayers to her and the family 🙏
He said "Slightly built" which means thin or small.. not heavily muscular.
If she didn't drown, what did she actually die of???
Why does the small town Embalmer also act as the sheriff?? Super SUS 😳
But y’all were convinced it was foul play. You said it to multiple interviews and said you had receipts (incl parts of the interview with the tow guy) which you would release after the investigation was done. Is this still happening???
Sad...feel for the family.
A few things that struck me as odd. 1 The passenger side window is down. If she was in the water before the vehicle sank, Wouldn't that be the best place to escape? But I also know in a panic she could've conceivably hit the power window button on accident as she was fleeing the drivers seat. That is a real possibility. 2 If she did dry drown after 2 weeks in the water her throat would've relaxed and allowed some water in.especially since she was inverted in the rear of the vehicle. To me, if she drowned ahe was gasping for breath, and in fact dry drowned then the carbon monoxide would've bubbled out of her lungs thus filling with water. Either way it's a complete tragedy for such a beautiful and smart young woman.
No justice for Kiely. This is murder without a doubt and LE knows it too but who wants to admit that when the town you work for is a cult and God forbid anyone finds out about that. Watch "The Truckee Way" video. You'll understand what I'm talking about if you already don't. I'm so sorry Kiely that your town decided you didn't need to be around anymore including your mother. Rest easy beautiful girl.
it will always be that way in that town.. Im so glad i left 22 years ago. if you arent rich you are scum in that towns eyes
this was definitely an accident. this happens A LOT to even sober people. add in underage alcohol and possible drug consumption and driving right by the water like that it's EXTREMELY likely to happen.
Are you Alex Jones ?
@@taylorfrink1182 This doesn't fit the RUclips murder narrative. People can't get subs and views when the truth is the final answer to their self-deception.
How do you feel about Pfizer?
Wow RIP. Did not think this was a pure accident but RIP. Lessons to be learned at least.
Prayers for Justice For Kylie family
for Kiely. I really don't care for her parents.
Justice?
What position was the drivers seat when vehicle was found? was it slid further back than usual position? could indicate foul play?
Still she was upside down in her vehicle how did she get in the back?you would float up which would be the floor. No and she didnt swim down and go over seat. Come on. Also with the safety belt hanging out the hatch door pinned her in the back soooooo explain why and how she did this.
The front of the car was facing the bottom. She did float up, that's why she was in the back.
@@abebuckingham8198 so she swam passed two opened windows to go to the back that had no windows?
How did she get strapped in the luggage area in the back by accident???!!!!
folks are conveniently trying to gloss over the strap across her body and closed into the back
Woooow....that's sad.
RIP YOUNG LADY
I think he car went off the road and went into this body of water. She was probably tired or not paying attention to her surroundings? Right now many missing cold case victims have been found in lakes..etc.from even 20 years ago. Never realized how often this occurs.
I love the comments here... and on almost every video about this tragic accident. It’s like a glimpse into human psychology to see how far into ridiculous conspiracy people will follow their inability to accept that a bright young woman, with everything ahead of her, got a little drunk at a party in the woods and made a navigational error while driving away. This is America, half-drunk teenagers putting their cars in inappropriate locations is kind of our thing.
when you realize that average people are dumber than rocks, it starts to make sense..
AWP shouldve got the reward $$ & I dont believe Kiely was driving. She couldve got out in either window not over headrests to hatchback area. Dont think intentional but 100 yds from party?
This is so sad. Why is it the world cares more about what happened to this young lady than her own family, friends and town?!! Sickening!! I do not believe that this was an accident, not many ever will. I pray the truth will be revealed and any involved in anyway will be punished to the full extent.
Karma! Karma comes when no expects it!
No. There is no evidence to suggest that whatsoever.
If Kiely's family can accept the autopsy results, why can't a bunch of strangers?
@@tishwitch Because everything has to be a conspiracy. This case makes total sense as an accident.
Yea the FBI and the whole police department covered up the death of a 16 yr old girl for some unknown reason, maybe she was gonna expose the CIA or try to kill the president.......see how crazy you sound
Not much alcohol in her system yet Sami, Elsa, said Kiely was wasted and couldn't even walk, let alone drive......
Why can't people accept that Kieley tragically got drunk- and drove- took a wrong turn due to her impaired judgement- and drove off the road into the water and drowned. It is beyond tragic.. but it was an accident. We should let her rest and let her Family try to grieve her unimaginable and premature loss. Rest In Peace Kieley 🙏
Because nowadays so many have to make it some sort of conspiracy! Ridiculous!
Your a 💯 % right. Even AWP made it sound like she was murdered.. I hope the family has some peace.. Have a good day 😀
No the problem is people like you are sheep and will believe anything!!!! You can’t deny facts and when there’s 10 times more questions with no answers there’s a reason why!! Someone is trying to cover something up. If one of your family members died and you didn’t have the answers that are coming up what would you do, just say well I guess the police didn’t want to do there job and that’s fine I accept that?
Jus like they put KIDNAPPED?? ON JOLISA FUENTES video...and they jus found out her truck went off the side of a cliff smdh..😳
@@stephanie90734 Precisely. Water in the lungs is what determines drowning as the COD, without that evidence, how was drowning determined?
It’s sad 😔
Why is no one asking where the guy is she was supposedly with, as stated by the emergency roadside service? He also hinted that they both were acting strange...He also claimed this was a day after she was reported missing
The truth shall set you free.
But if her friend said she was super drunk wouldn’t it be way more then 0.088???? A little sus to me
The test for alcohol isn't reliable because the body produces alcohol after you die. The test doesn't tell us anything about her drinking or lack of drinking.
These departments should be ashamed of themselves, with the incompetence they continue to show. I mean multiple departments too.
Think about it, if you drive into a lake, it's dark. In the time it takes, after getting over force of that sudden stop, your car has already started rolling upside down, water is rushing into the open windows, so within seconds you're struggling to breath. Then your under water on your hands and knees panicking to get air. Fumbling around trying to find that open window. Even if you stick your arm out the window, you won't know it, because the cars upside down. Horrible! She was in the back seat because she was probably scrambling around to find a way out. I bet almost everyone would not have made it out.
I support AWP, But i don't think they should be involving themselves about the cause of death or why their missing..
Totally agree. It calls to mind their total unprofessionalism.
@@TuckerSP2011yeah! So unprofessional that they were the ones who found the body eventhough the Sheriff said there was no need for them to look there because they had already searched the area. Really unprofessional when compared with the Sheriff/Coroner/ Town Owner.
I lost it in them when they started being so click baity.
@@marivipalomino6975 Unprofessional in that they basically declared this death a homicide. Unprofessional in that Doug opined about the location of the body in the car when he never did the dive. How do you think law enforcement is going to trust them in the future? They have some better skills than law enforcement as far as sonar but after finding the girl, they should just keep quiet allowing a real investigation to take place.
@@TuckerSP2011 💯 % I don't watch because they are detectives (per say) I watch because I like how they search for missing people.. Have a good day 😀
When she hit that water, without hitting the brakes! She would've sobered up and got out one of the windows. Not went to the back of the car. That makes no sense. How did they miss that car? but they was out there looking for her phone and her car was right freaking beside them!!!! This case has to be a cover up for someone or something. This is not normal and a lot of us realize that and we want the TRUTH!!!!! Kiley deserves the truth and it will come out, one day!!!
🙄
My gut has told me from the very first moment I heard about this, this was not an accident. Too many things just seemed inconsistent, flat out wrong, or super obvious that people were lying. Too many coincidences and people involved being well connected.
So many conspiracy people
I dont believe she drowned
SHE WAS GIVEN PERMISSION TO GO TO THIS PARTY LATE AT NIGHT 300 OTHER UNSUPERVISED DRUGS ALCOHOL PARTY WITH OLDER KIDS AND SHE DRANK BEFORE SHE GOT THERE! THOSE ROADS ARE SOMETIMES DIRT ROADS SHE HIT THE WATER HARD WATCH THE VIDEO...SHE DRANK TOO MUCH SHE WAS ONLY 16 AND MAYBE UPSET..SHE CANT SEE AND HER CAR IS UPSIDE DOWN SHE GOT DISORIENTATED!
Thank you now hopefully people let this poor girl rest in peace 🙏
so you accept whatever you get told? ok sheep
I seriously do not and will not believe that she drown in that car. No way. With a fully "dowm" driver window and at least 2 other windows down far enough for that tiny girl could fit threw. I have been in a car that went into water and was drunk, my friend was not. We had to make a split second choice to go head on with a wrong way driver or turn and go off the road. It was a scary and very intense situation. That was extremely unexpected. We had one window that was partly down and being beyond the limit of legal drunk, I was incoherent and couldn't even get in the car myself and was able to find and escape from the window that was partly down even guiding my sober friend out.
yeah that never happened
The car went in upside down. Instantly water was rushing in with such pressure theres no way to get out regardless how strong u are. It’s a horrible scenario to imagine.
@@longjon0199 how'd it go in upside down? I'm pretty sure it flipped after going in because the engine is heavier than the back so that causes it to nose dive and flip
And they are not even saying she was drunk but had pot. Just nuts to me. She made that text and it comes off as weird.
@@Shastasnow She had alcohol in her liver but the body naturally makes some after death so they can't conclusively tell if she was drinking or not. They didn't exclude it as a possibility. If others were drinking at the same event I expect she was too.
👟☠️What is the phenomenon when people lose their shoes when they die??
This all seems to be a huge cover up.. Wasn't she found in the back of her car?? All the agencies involved didn't seem to know what they were doing. This is very disappointing.
Accidental seems odd?
Liars, no accident. This is terrible.
Prove that it wasn't an accident!
I would like to know if there were any marks showing that indicate whether she was wearing a seatbelt at the moment the vehicle entered the water
I wonder how exactly they came to that conclusion, the circumstances that night pointed to foul play. It's unfortunate that this report will basically close the case and they won't look further into the suspicious people around her that night. There's not really a test to check for people who wanted to make it look like an accident
What circumstances?
Where did you get your expertise that you feel you can make that assertion? Sometimes it starts out looking like natural but then foul play concluded as investigation goes on. Reverse is also true. I hope you can honor the parents repeated request to allow their daughter to rest in peace and to allow them closure. Maybe a new hobby?
The police is covering up for one of their own
@@jamba622 my expertise comes from life experience. That there are ugly people out there conniving enough to make things look like an accident. I wont go into personal details but i had a loved one taken from us and ill just leave it at that. I'm just saying it's sad to see cases like this abruptly closed because of one medical examiners conclusion I'm hoping the family has the means to hire a personal detective and examiner
if you think you can do better the. why aren't you a detective
Kiely was NOT highly intoxicated and did NOT have water in her lungs, Who put her and her car in that lake as she clearly couldn't have been driving.
And how exactly is it clear that she was not driving the car?
@@chattahuffman5117 because she was found back seat windows down explain that ??
@@jasminejohnstone1803 explain what? 🤣 she could not have driven because of that? Yeah, ok. Not hard to get yourself front seat to back seat. Do you have any clue how little time she actually had to get out? Do you have a single clue how disorienting that would be? Clearly not. Not a one.
@@chattahuffman5117 Why do you always get that 1 ignorant tit getting cheeky. On social media. Go argue with yourself I cbr 😴😴😴
@@chattahuffman5117 Your last name describes you well. 🤣🤣🤣
when you watch the video from the actual diving team who found her they interview a breakdown truck diver who went out to her car to fix it, he was the very last person to see her alive she was with a guy and acting weird asking the recovery guy for help with how to fasten her seatbelt properly, this rings out help me kind of talk, and its right near where she was found dead, no one has followed up this weird guy she was with or anything.
I wonder if vloggers and online "sleuths" make it any more difficult for families to heal or to accept the official deaths of their loved ones?
If they can't even take the car out of the water probably, what makes anyone believe that they investigated the case properly? Clearly a cover up.
🤣 Gosh that's irresponsible to say. Do you know how many police departments have sonar, boats and dive experts? NONE.
The person who performed the autopsy isn't even from this area. It was an outside professional, with no motivation to help cover up a crime.
Honestly, this is pathetic.
@Edwin 🤣🤣🤣 please no. Let's just let Alex ride off into the sunset looking for dead Kennedy's 😅
@@tishwitch Los Angeles
@@teresaslo wtf are you talking about
@@tishwitch did you not watch the other videos?? All the evidence left behind?
Welcome to the youtube comment section. Where everyone knows more than medical examiners and trained pros.
it's maddening
So what's the evaluation of the car? The wheels the breaks the engine. Could still be foul play. Did someone escape through one of the open windows. Which of the windows where open?
This is a weird case. Needs to be looked into more
All those professional agencies couldn’t find her right where her phone last pinged and it was only in 14 ‘ of water -
They do not being doing that kind of work because they are terrible at it
No because they knew what happened and didn't want to investigate.
I believe this has been a cover up.Lets see if the police continue to allow these parties.This has been hushed up because of those parties.
Accidents happen people this is not the first time someone has driven into the water and been found