This is part of my yearly Lavender Town anniversary event. Check out the other year uploads in the series: ruclips.net/p/PLw19c_yxFMXgnLdyFhQGacc09cjUm9cfQ&si=ezWiQ1JNQ5E6pWI1 Also, watch my vid on the Naruto fans that trolled the government: ruclips.net/video/Zndfm-K351A/видео.html
@@Lurtz_s when you’ve been physically and psychologically abused to that extent it can literally change the physical make up and chemistry of your brain
So let me get this straight. Battered wife syndrome is a thing but battered child syndrome isn't? whether it was meditated or not, ppl turning on their abuser and killing them shouldn't be a surprise. Not saying killing is okay but everyone including law enforcement KNEW and did NOTHING and so many ppl are shocked by the outcome?? if the law won't help you what other way out is the abused going to think of if everyone turns a blind eye? I can't imagine how hopeless he felt.
Men are often considered (wrongly) to be "impossible to abuse" because "they're bigger" The jury was probably pitched a BS version of her life's narrative as a "gEntLe KinD MotHer" or whatever crap they spewed to win, and the jury bought it because men are often seen as monsters just by mere accusation. It's shameful and it has to end.
Child abuse should be taken way more seriously than it is. People have a terrible habit of dismissing victims with "well, the parents can raise them how they like, it's no one else's business"- doubly so if the abusive party is the mother. Narcotic and opioid abuse should also be taken way more seriously than it is, as it's ravaged poor communities in the US worse than, like, anything save maybe meth. If Terry had been removed from the home and the mom been put in rehab, she might still be alive and he might have had a much better go of it all.
Child Abuse is taken seriously. So seriously that you can't have a private life without a school counselors getting the police involved due to your child saying something compromising. I translate calls, some of them school calls, and 9 out 10 times there's no foul play, just a counselour over reacting and getting the police involved.
Not to sound like some incel or whatever, but I'm almost certain part of it was that he was male and the abuser was female. It's just demonstrable that cases of female on male abuse (mother, partner, or otherwise) get less attention and get treated with less severity/urgency than if it were his father being abusive. Overall though (as someone with an abuse background) my feelings are a bit torn given his conduct afterwards combined with the revisions made to his story are indicative of some dishonesty or at least omissions. That's the biggest strength and curse of the justice system: it's primarily evidence based unless the defense or prosecution tries to appeal to emotion or some other factors (ie OJ, Casey Antony, Zimmerman, etc.), so when you have so little evidence outside of "I know him and he would never do this!" you're probably going to be found guilty just on the merit of being unable to create some reasonable doubt.
@@sirbruno95 How many of those 9 out 10 times do you think were actually legit but had the parents hide the evidence well enough that authority figures like you become vocally dismissive of people reporting suspected abuse? Do you seriously, _seriously_ think school counselors don't take a *massive* risk to their reputations making these sorts of call? You think they _like_ having to call the police on suspected child abuse? What the hell is wrong with you people?
"Every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child." - ive never heard this before but i like it a lot. whether you got it from somewhere/someone or came up with it yourself... very well put.
I hate that murderers with one hobby end up being known for just that in relation to their murder. It's nonsense. He's not _"Pokémon's murderer"_ or _"The Pokémon trainer that kills",_ he was an abused child that finally defended himself against a monstorus parent.
@@sheeveman7568 We got the Slenderman stabbings and the Scream killers, too. A couple insane people watch something once and it's their only descriptor after killing somebody. 💀
@@Zeroshiki yes but in the Slenderman stabbings the girl said it was cuz of Slenderman the pokemon guy play pokemon and well like it sheeveman7568 says guy talks about mario in one post and murders the mario killer
Honestly he seems like he’s more of a victim. He has an abusive mother, the cops did nothing to help. He killed his mom but at the same time it seems like it after years of abuse he snapped.
He didn't snap, she did. She made the bad choice in life and left the mess for him to clean up and he did try to clean up his mother mess. He was truly a good kid the kind of kid most mothers want to have.
The only people that can put the system on trial are the American People. Until society steps up and does what they need to do, this will keep happening. Inaction is complicity. Why care about people that feel sorry for the kid and blame society when said people are the ones that also won't lift a finger to do anything about it?
This is like... the gaslight of the century. Imagine having a gentle soul, and all you've ever known is suffering and abuse, then the legal system doesn't support you and actually paints you out to be a monster. Just wow.
That's what goes on in society today. Most of the time alot of people kill and others judge not knowing what that other personis going through. That's why we shouldn't Judge others. Only God can do that
He did not have a gentle soul. I knew Terry since he was a baby. He started harming animals as a toddler. He is a psychopath. His mother was a horrible and disgusting person. She definitely mentally abused him and had not been sober a day of his life, but he definitely brutally murdered her in cold blood and asked his only friend to help dispose of the body.
The system absolutely failed this kid. My heart sank hearing what she did to him. I'm not all that surprised that he lost it once things got that physical. Despite everything he's said, I do believe it was in self defense
His abusive violent mother, the Police not responding to reports of his abuse, the school system, the legal system, all failed this person. He's a murderer by law, by taking a life, and he's a victim of abuse too. I sincerely hope he's moved on with his life, and is doing ok these days. I didn't hear anything damning with the information provided in this video, just a living being defending themselves from abuse and violence. That's how I see it.
Yeah the system failed him for sure but it's quite obvious he killed his mother with intent. He only got 8 years for it though so im sure it was worth it to him in the end. I know it would have been worth it to me.
@@73delgado To be real though... I don't care that he killed her intentionally. I don't care if he even planned it. Dude had mental issues and was abused as fuck. He should have spent the minimum necessary time in a mental institution to deem him not a threat to society, because I find it hard to believe he would ever murder someone again, and spending 8 years in prison is way more likely to make him commit other crimes than proper mental help would.
@@im1fadedRob it doesn't matter what you think of the situation. He killed his mother with intent and that is a crime and the punishment is prison. To many people in this day and age would just love to see killers walk free or get next to no punishment just because the circumstances make the killers actions seem justified but that's not how the law works. Best example is whenever some kills a pedo people celebrate and call the killer a hero and want the person to walk free but most of the time it ends in real prison time for the killer because they broke the law plain and simple. Just goes to show most Americans care about revenge and not justice
@@73delgadohow is it justice to be beat and abused by a parent for years? What about the police that failed to do their job? Child protective services failing? The only person who faces consequences is the person who put an end to the cycle. The law isn’t justice, it never was and never will be. Laws exist for stability, justice isn’t stability.
It sounds like it went beyond what self defense technically covers, but this is a kid who took years of abuse for his whole life, nobody protected him, and he snapped eventually. Really, this is a case where he should have got put in a psychiatric hospital to try and fix him. At least he only did a little under 6 years.
Honestly, his situation reminds me of Gypsy Rose and it’s sad that the justice system did not give him the same grace. While the brutality of the murder was certainly heinous, it sounds like the majority of society had failed this young man. Everyone seemed to know of her abuse towards him, but nothing was done. : /
The problem is that self-defense legally requires that killing is essentially the only option. It sounds like with him changing the story and smashing her head against the ground multiple times, the jury found it suspicious enough to not count it as self-defense Did the mom deserve it? Obviously. And most would probably agree he didn’t do anything morally wrong, especially since she did say she would kill him. But it seems that from a legal perspective, it wasn’t enough. Sad, really
To me he's a victim not a murderer and instead of putting him on trail they should put the American Justice System and Child Protective Services on trial for not protecting him when he was growing up.
@pr9334 nope, but as far as I can tell he had no defensive wounds. I also wouldn't, after beating them unconscious, stab them 7 times. I'd call EMS and the police.
Messed up... end your life and your mother gets convicted or you end your mother's life and you get convicted. Dude was in a no win situation but he chose to live, suffering the consequences of his mother's actions.
I don't know if the accounts about self defense were true, but either way, you had a powder keg just waiting to go off. It was a matter of time before one of them seriously hurt or killed the other. Even if he did straight up murder the mother, I can't say the mother wouldn't have done the same at some point. He was really in a no-win situation no matter what the circumstances.
Literally everyone who knows him: it was self defense. Cops: yeah weve gotten calls about violence on her child Jury: DURRR HURRR GUILTY Jail is extremely traumatizing. If anything it'd make a kid worse.
It was almost certainly because of the premeditation indicated in the social media post and him soliciting a friend to help cover it up. It’s unfortunate, because I agree with you. Kid was a victim.
@@raiyanrazni Well bad guy criminals or not, a lot of the time those guys haveto worry about the guards as much as each other. Just because someone has a badge and uniform on doesn't mean they'll be professional. Those guys allow and perpetuate a lot of awful stuff too. Sometimes on purpose, other times negligently.
so let me get this straight, mother abuses her child, she literally fantasizedabout killing him and no one cares? but when he does something he is a killer? this is why i hate humanity
It’s just like in School nobody does anything when a kid is getting bullied but once they stand up for themselves they get into trouble It’s such a sad world we live in
Well he did stick a knife in her and she died so labelled a murderer... Mum may of had fantasies but didn't carry out the murder it's a dog eat dog world only the strong survive
@@Nitehawkmk77you’re gross and I hope you’re just a troll and don’t seriously mean that. Are you suggesting he should’ve just kept allowing himself to live in fear until she did act on it? Someone on drugs and alcohol is completely unpredictable. This case reminds me of gypsy rose - I don’t believe these people will kill again because these circumstances were so specific
@@AbstractOddity Think what you like... But from my side I generally believe the Mum should have had severe consequences before it escalated to a killing, it's sickening that school and local authorities did nothing regards to support and they have blood on their hands!! Due to a young man pushed over the edge as couldnt see anyway out
Terry wasn’t the monster here, his mother was. She abused the kid for so long and destroyed his self esteem with absolutely no remorse and even fantasized about killing him. I say she got what she deserved.
She was a monster and so is Terry. Terry is a true psychopath. Knew him as a baby and he started harming animals as a toddler. DCFS is the biggest failure after years of ignoring people's calls.
If he hadn't turned and tried to do the whole 'hide the body' thing I think there would be a leniant jury. As much as it can count for sudden anxiety over the situation, a lot of people will read that as being horribly uncaring for his mother and not caring about what he did.
You’re probably not wrong but he obviously didn’t plan the murder out so he likely freaked out and wasn’t sure in how much trouble he’d be in if he called the cops
@@rzthalegend262and keep in mind the kid has Asperger’s. A neurotypical person would have trouble processing something like this, so imagine how much worse it would be for someone with Asperger’s
I don't think he "Planned out the murder". As someone who grew up in a scarily similar situation to his (but obviously never killed nor ever tried to kill or hurt my mother) I can 100% understand how a drug addict/alcoholic mother can become extremely violent. Very quickly. I myself was physically attacked on multiple occasions when I was younger and my mother also made frequent remarks about taking my life. This kid was failed by everyone in his life and community. I am glad that he is out! I only hope he is given the proper mental help he so desperately needs.
He definitely planned it. Terry is a psychopath. His mother was a disgusting and horrible person, but Terry is also. He harmed animals as a toddler. He tried to get help hiding the body and lied about how he killed her and changed his story multiple times. I personally knew him and he was definitely a monster.
Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but I think if a kid is proven to be facing violent abuse from a parent or relative and severely injures or kills them, it should count as self defense and they shouldn't be charged for it.
Can’t just let them go free, but definitely psychiatric care instead of just jail. He didn’t kill anyone else but the person abusing him. That can be rehabilitated.
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Classic "teachers when the bullied kid fights back" moment
The ending was completely uncalled for. "If he planned out the murder a little but better he would have gotten away with it". He was charged with 2nd degree which means no premeditation.
The court officials charged him with 2 1st degree murders. Even though there was only one body. This case is beyond fucked up. It never should have made it to court. Evidence of the mothers intent on killing Terry existed prior to the killing. Truthfully he should have buried her in an unmarked grave. She deserves it.
@@Sketchy_2 Did you miss the very first part where she lost custody of her daughter for getting intoxicated in front of her daughter? There shouldn't have been any sympathy for her from the get-go.
@@MrBounceoutboi He was either gonna be killed by his mother or kill his mother himself so it was a lose-lose situation which is the point of this story
He had an option to leave for alternate housing. It was all set and ready and he told DCFS he didn't want to leave anymore and killed her a few days later. He was given an out but chose to stay.
Terry went through a hell no child should have to endure, and I believe his letter about how the justice system failed and abuse prevailed. He wasn't a criminal mastermind. Him changing his stories wasn't a series of lies unfolding. He was a teenager who didn't know how to react after he had a fight to the death with his own mom. I've nearly been strangled to death more than once by someone I once considered family, and I would've stabbed as many times as necessary if I could've reached a knife.
I don't really blame Terry for what he did. Given the abuse he suffered through and his mom's open hatred towards him, it's no surprise that this happened
I can completely understand what Terry had gone through, because I was severely abused by a male family member who had these 2 “rules,” which were: 1. If the younger child gets into trouble, then the older and younger child gets beaten; if the older child gets into trouble, then only they get beaten. 2. If a child weighs over 100 lbs, then they can get hit like a man. My younger sister would do EVERYTHING in her power to piss him off, and we were beaten almost on a daily basis. He had other “punishments,” but they’re too many to list. I can count on one hand how many times, in the 9 years living with him, that I caused “trouble.” My sister weighed about 90-95 pounds, and I weighed about 105-110/115 pounds. So, I was beaten longer and harder than my sister. There were many, many times that we had thought about taking our mom’s weapon and killing him, but we chickened out because of our mom. I have since forgiven him, because I didn’t want to continue being his “victim,” like my sister continues to be. I am a survivor of abuse. I don’t think that Terry should’ve served any time, because of the physical, mental, emotional and psychological abuse that he endured at the hands of his so called mother. Laws NEED to change that starts holding agencies accountable for allowing a child to remain in the abusive home!
Full sympathy for this dude. You can't blame an abuse victim for not regulating them self 100% perfectly when acting in self-defence against an abuser. He never should have been in jail
You are wrong. Terry is a psychopath. He was given an out days for this happened to live in alternate housing. Everything was set and ready for him to leave. He told DCFS he no longer wanted to leave, then he killed her. I knew him as a baby and he harmed animals as a toddler. He is a monster, and his mother was a monster. I predicted for years he would kill his mother. He refused to leave the situation, and DCFS should have taken him away as a baby. He should not be free right now. He will definitely harm someone else in the future.
@@mrorange8576 back up which one, the alternative housing or the harming of animals as a toddler? I personally saw the animal harming. The alternative housing Situation is in official DCFS records that were released to the news. It does not take much Google search time to find that information. I used to live close by him. I have known him since he was a few months old. I am about 6 years older than he is. He is a true psychopath. The only reason he got off so easily is because people felt bad for not helping him before this, and they way they treated him. His mother was horrible for sure but he is still a monster.
Having faced child abuse myself, I sympathize with Terry's plight. I hope he's doing well and has been able to put this painful chapter of his life behind him.
I went to school with a kid who was heavily abuse. He slit the throat of seven of his family members while they slept. Needless to say he got life in prison. Dont abuse or bully people.
“My mom threaten to kill me multiple times and is very abusive” Cops: “cool” “She speeds and has expired tags” Cop: “I’m listening” It’s all about money and stupid awards folks it’s sadly never about doing what’s right
Pokemon fans are just as bad as the Pokemon company that failed Gen 8 and 9, Pokemon is definitely the Sonic of Nintendo Psst Hoenn has the Best Music Fite me
"All it takes is one bad day" You can be a saint, and be a good samaritan all your life, but one day, because you had a shitty life and your abuser, pushed you to your breaking point, YOU become the issue, not the one that was mentally berating you, and destroying everything, tearing you down in the process. I can relate sadly....me and my sister are currently in an abusive relationship with our narcissistic brother and we live under the same roof with our parents, Our parents are good people, but somehow, we got dealt a bad hand, we've been recording him for months, but we don't know if we're protected, it's not like it's in a bathroom, but the living room... Also, to quote your send-off: "So there you have the story of the Pokemon Trainer who killed, and it's crazy to think that if he planned out the murder a little bit better, he probably would've gotten away with it" This rubbed me the wrong way, the justice system/ CPS should have protected him, but ultimately failed him in this case, and yet, the phrasing here is treating him like someone who should have calculated his murder, but he was just a 16-year-old teen that just protected himself in self-defense, no one plans that...you made it out like he killed multiple people and I'm disappointed, I like your content....but the way that was phrased could have been done better. Heck if you want phrase the title and the ending like this Changing the title from "Pokémon's Most Notorious Killer" to "Pokémon's Most Notorious Self-Defense Case" and "So there you have the story of the Pokemon Trainer who killed, and its crazy to think that if he planned out the murder a little bit better, he probably would've gotten away with it" to "So there you have the story of the Pokemon Trainer who killed in self-defense"
Just like the Gypsy case. I hope he can move on with his life after he’s released. Personally I think he should have gone to a rehabilitation or something to substitute his prison sentence. He should sue the police and those who failed to properly protect him. He should have called the police right away and not move the body.
@@YujiUedaFanadrenaline, years of trauma and the sudden realization all stack up in horrendous ways. He wasn't right in the head at that moment. Once reality finally kicked back in and he wasn't in fight or flight it was obvious he regretted it
I thought he killed someone over an argument about Pokemon or something. Instead he killed his mother while his hobby was Pokemon. Practically every murderer would be the "internet killer" because they like to browse the internet or the "TV killer" because they like to watch TV.
The whole video is just a victim story with his background in pokemon slapped on the front for clicks, then to close the video with "he could've gotten away with it if.." fucking weirded me out like the guy didn't just study the case
bro he should've asked for a lawyer. a noted history of abuse. if you could've kept 'a' story straight or just told the truth, he could've walked and got free counseling for life. that "i'll just cut legs off so you won't be bigger than me" gave me chills. i know his lawyer was pissed when he found out he confessed. DON'T TALK TO DETECTIVES!
Abuse from any parent is terrifying. My mother growing up abused alcohol and cocaine almost on a daily and would go through bipolar episodes well intoxicated and that would lead to beating the crap out of me or chocking the life out of me. A couple times I also had to stop her from cutting herself as a young boy these easily messed with me and by the time I was 16 my mom kicked me out probably for the better our friendship was super toxic and we didn’t get along but now so many years later thankfully we’ve been able to move past a lot of what made my mom so sad back then
Mother abusing son for years and the police do nothing. But the day the kid finally snaps and removes her as a threat for good, they're right on his ass. Great fucking job, CPS. Also, he was right, She WAS a waste of space.
I don't know if this was covered in the video but she had another marriage and another child before him, and the court gave custody of her daughter to the father. And a woman has to be pretty bad for the father to get custody.
I’m honestly just glad they didn’t completely screw over his life for years over this. It was self defense, and the jury deciding he was guilty was just moronic. Hope he comes out of his shell one day
This is the first time I haven't really like a video, this is a child pushed to a limit no child should ever have to be, it wasn't an murder it was manslaughter fuck that comment at the end
I feel lucky I only injured my dad after putting up with much the same situation. Not that I was living any kind of life anyway; my life already was over whether I was in prison or having to lock myself in my room for safety.
I grew up in a similar environment. The loneliness you feel coming from a dysfunctional home like that. I feel like mentally if he wasn’t broken already, he probably didn’t think he had any other way out.
The snarky remark about ending your mom if you want more friends was out of place. Also I don't agree with the conclusion that mentions he would have gone away with it if he had planned it better. What you just told us was obviously not a planned thing. It feels like a random tacked in conclusion. Interesting story but the writing felt shallow.
Doesn’t surprise me considering smogons name literally comes from a holocaust joke (Smogon is Koffing’s (their mascot’s) German name, you can put the rest together)
Abuse is hardly every taken seriously when it's committed by a woman. I think what didn't help his case is that he changed his story and didn't immediately call the police.
I have never heard a more justified reason for matricide. Everyone knew about this but did little or nothing for him. May he find peace for his necessary actions.
That end comment was so out of context with everything said in the video. If he planned it out better he'd have gotten away with it? Everything in the video suggested this was excessive self defence, there was no planning to begin with. It sounds like he defended himself while finally venting years of pent up anger. He didn't deny it or try to hide it. Just a horrible thing all around. I feel for him but murder is still murder and we will never know how it really went down. Maybe it was his only choice to defend himself, ormaybe he went too far. Either way, no pity for the women though, assuming all that was stated about her was true..
Unfortunately Mothers abusing their children is all to common, and we all ignore it. The neighbors saw and heard the abuse, but ignored it until the media asked for a comment.
Whats really fucked up is, in the eyes of american law, what he did doesn't qualify for the self defense plea. Thats because self defense has to be a DIRECT response to a threat against your life. What he was subjected to was an entire life of abuse and couldnt escape it. The entire reason this situation went the way it did was because you know his lawyer pressured him to give a version of events that gave that DIRECT threat needed to qualify for their plea. Because saying "i was being abused for a prolonged period of time, and without any legal way out of my situation, i took action to preserve my life that i felt was in chronic danger by my forced cohabitation with the deceased" would NOT fly and, as you can see by what happened to him in the end, its a case you wont win without your case being identical to a precedent that is favorable on you. I dont know a damn thing about wirher party, bur it just sounds like a lose lose situation and its tragic. Most people turning to drugs (alcohol is one) are doing so because something in this world is hurting them. I wonder what happened in his mothers life that resulted in what she thought was an acceptable way to raise a ND kid. Not as a way to excuse her actions, my parents treated me that way and its a wound im still trying to figure out how to heal. But just to understand that mentality. My mom gor sober and actuallt sat down with me and talked about it from her side, and it gave me a new lense to look at things through. He is never going to get that and maybe she didnt deserve that chance. The decision was made for both of them forever, though.
This guy was abused for years, and very violently, This wont be a harsh statement to say that technically the mom killed herself the way she treated him all of this years.
I don't condone this young man's actions. It is never ok to kill another human being in any circumstance, barring the most heinous of crimes. That being said, everyone failed this person and his sentence was unwarranted.
I had abusive parents too and it's the hardest thing I've ever experienced, but the solution was to leave. RIP to the mom, but also some sympathies to him. That story changing to fit the autopsy was not good for his case. Seems like he may have acted in self-defence if he acted in other scenarios that he went through, but not the time he went at her.
He was given the opportunity to leave and live in alternate housing but chose to stay and then killed her only a few days later. He is a monster just like his mother was. The media never told the full story and all the kids in the community hated him before this. They only took his side after the murder because they all felt guilty for bullying him and not talking to him. He is truly a psychopath who even harmed animals as a toddler.
"If there's one thing I know it's this; a mother should not scorn her own son. If a woman humiliates her little boy he will become hostile and violent and debased, period." -Ed Kemper, Mind Hunter TV series.
This is why Jury Trials are an idiotic system to settle criminal charges with. Laymen just don't have the necessary knowledge or ability to give an impartial judgement. Furthermore, the judge should've overruled the jury in this instance. I know they are reluctant to do so due to being elected, but this should've been one of those cases!
Terry if you ever find yourself here and see these comments, I'm so sorry for what you had go through. You did what you had to survive and save your own life. Don't let this define you and I hope you are in a much better place. Have a great life and live it to the fullest!
Kind of wish he could enter a VGC and win. If he hadn’t sent those messages, I feel like he would’ve been free…oh well. I hope he’s living a happy life now.
His mother was so abusive and violent towards him to me she really needs help I feel bad for him his mother took this way too far the poor guy years of abuse took its toll something him have snapped he fought back the jury doesn't see this as we do they just made it worse he's the victim the jury didn't do their jobs right.
I feel so bad for him. My mother wasnt far from this. There was definitely potential for it to end this way. I once almost drove our car off the highway to a cliff, snapping out of it last second. These types of parents push you to your limits, make you feel like theres no way out. The courts failed him.
Legit feel bad for him. Constant beatings and abuse from his own mom, the police showed up on numerous occasions and did nothing, child protective services nowhere in sight despite how obvious the problems are, I don’t think he ever would have murdered someone if he wasn’t trapped with a monster his whole life.
He was given an out. It was set up for him to move out into alternative housing. He told them he didn't want to anymore and killed her a couple days later. He was mentally abused for sure, but never saw physical abuse. Terry is a true psychopath. He harmed animals as a toddler. I knew him as a child, I am only a few years older than he is. Saw it all, and even tried to get him help. By the time he was 5 years old I was saying he was going to kill someone one day, most likely his mother. He was not a gentle person as the people started saying after the murder. They all just felt guilty that they ignored him so they supported him. He will harm another person one day.
Sadly abused by a parent really leads to many health issues especially if their divorce. It doesn't matter if the abuse was physical or mental, it's still causing health issues to the kid, like hair loss at a young age, developing panic attacks due of constant verbal abuse, suicidal thinking and intentions. Some examples least on my experience with my older brother.
Really upsetting that people didn't take account of his asburgers looks like the pokemon community naver changed smh this was a abused special needs kid, tormented by a monster who was suppose to take care of him no wonder she lost custody of her daughter
God the justice system is so ass backwards. A man can go over to another state with guns he isn't supposed to have, kill protesters but get off on self defense. This guy killed his abusive mother in self defense and got prison time. He needs therapy, prison will only degrade his mental health.
13:21 I don't understand that last part where he says "if he planned out the murder better, maybe he would have gotten away with it" but wasn't the whole point that the situation wasn't planned and it was self defense? That last quote through me for a loop because if he's out of prison now didn't he get away with it? I don't think this kid is a murderer and the legal system royally fucked him and the sad reality is its never going to get better and police are always going to be like that. Life kinda sucks if you really think about it
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I was just gonna say, got a weird level of nostalgia hearing you talk with the Lav theme in the background. Classic GFM moment lmao
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I've said it before and am saying it again.... super glad you ditched the flashlight.
I genuinely feel bad for this dude. It’s clear that the years of heavy abuse were a defining factor in this incident
It's true, but the killing was so unnecessarily brutal.
@@Lurtz_syears of abuse probably had a role.
@@he-mansuncle7661 I don't disagree.
@@Lurtz_s when you’ve been physically and psychologically abused to that extent it can literally change the physical make up and chemistry of your brain
Facts tbh the court should had helped him
So let me get this straight. Battered wife syndrome is a thing but battered child syndrome isn't? whether it was meditated or not, ppl turning on their abuser and killing them shouldn't be a surprise. Not saying killing is okay but everyone including law enforcement KNEW and did NOTHING and so many ppl are shocked by the outcome?? if the law won't help you what other way out is the abused going to think of if everyone turns a blind eye? I can't imagine how hopeless he felt.
At least he killed his mother compared to what Chris-Chan did. Which one is roaming free right now?
peak feminism.
Men are often considered (wrongly) to be "impossible to abuse" because "they're bigger"
The jury was probably pitched a BS version of her life's narrative as a "gEntLe KinD MotHer" or whatever crap they spewed to win, and the jury bought it because men are often seen as monsters just by mere accusation.
It's shameful and it has to end.
@@SageDog???
@@addangel I think they're implying "flip the genders and battered child syndrome _would_ be a thing".
Child abuse should be taken way more seriously than it is. People have a terrible habit of dismissing victims with "well, the parents can raise them how they like, it's no one else's business"- doubly so if the abusive party is the mother. Narcotic and opioid abuse should also be taken way more seriously than it is, as it's ravaged poor communities in the US worse than, like, anything save maybe meth.
If Terry had been removed from the home and the mom been put in rehab, she might still be alive and he might have had a much better go of it all.
Pokemon OST > Mainstream Music
It’s only taken seriously when a man does it unfortunately
Child Abuse is taken seriously. So seriously that you can't have a private life without a school counselors getting the police involved due to your child saying something compromising. I translate calls, some of them school calls, and 9 out 10 times there's no foul play, just a counselour over reacting and getting the police involved.
Not to sound like some incel or whatever, but I'm almost certain part of it was that he was male and the abuser was female.
It's just demonstrable that cases of female on male abuse (mother, partner, or otherwise) get less attention and get treated with less severity/urgency than if it were his father being abusive.
Overall though (as someone with an abuse background) my feelings are a bit torn given his conduct afterwards combined with the revisions made to his story are indicative of some dishonesty or at least omissions.
That's the biggest strength and curse of the justice system: it's primarily evidence based unless the defense or prosecution tries to appeal to emotion or some other factors (ie OJ, Casey Antony, Zimmerman, etc.), so when you have so little evidence outside of "I know him and he would never do this!" you're probably going to be found guilty just on the merit of being unable to create some reasonable doubt.
@@sirbruno95 How many of those 9 out 10 times do you think were actually legit but had the parents hide the evidence well enough that authority figures like you become vocally dismissive of people reporting suspected abuse? Do you seriously, _seriously_ think school counselors don't take a *massive* risk to their reputations making these sorts of call? You think they _like_ having to call the police on suspected child abuse? What the hell is wrong with you people?
Every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child. I couldn’t imagine being raised by a lunatic like that
"Every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child." - ive never heard this before but i like it a lot. whether you got it from somewhere/someone or came up with it yourself... very well put.
"Not every parent deserves a child" makes no sense because then they wouldn't be a parent if they didn't have a child
I hate that murderers with one hobby end up being known for just that in relation to their murder. It's nonsense. He's not _"Pokémon's murderer"_ or _"The Pokémon trainer that kills",_ he was an abused child that finally defended himself against a monstorus parent.
Guy talks about mario in one post and murders
*the mario killer*
@@sheeveman7568 We got the Slenderman stabbings and the Scream killers, too. A couple insane people watch something once and it's their only descriptor after killing somebody. 💀
@@Zeroshiki yes but in the Slenderman stabbings the girl said it was cuz of Slenderman the pokemon guy play pokemon and well like it sheeveman7568 says guy talks about mario in one post and murders
the mario killer
@@sheeveman7568 to the investigation task force his name was jump man
Honestly he seems like he’s more of a victim. He has an abusive mother, the cops did nothing to help. He killed his mom but at the same time it seems like it after years of abuse he snapped.
He still needs to be in a mental hospital to fix him up
He didn't snap, she did. She made the bad choice in life and left the mess for him to clean up and he did try to clean up his mother mess. He was truly a good kid the kind of kid most mothers want to have.
The only people that can put the system on trial are the American People. Until society steps up and does what they need to do, this will keep happening. Inaction is complicity. Why care about people that feel sorry for the kid and blame society when said people are the ones that also won't lift a finger to do anything about it?
@@SMCwasTakenNurse and doctors: I can fix him
There is no "seems". It's shut and closed, black and white.
This is like... the gaslight of the century. Imagine having a gentle soul, and all you've ever known is suffering and abuse, then the legal system doesn't support you and actually paints you out to be a monster. Just wow.
Honestly, I'm surprised he didn't turn into an ACTUAL murderer after the BS he's been through!
Sounds about right
That's what goes on in society today. Most of the time alot of people kill and others judge not knowing what that other personis going through. That's why we shouldn't Judge others. Only God can do that
Then having a whole youtuber make a whole documentary on you still calling him a killer
He did not have a gentle soul. I knew Terry since he was a baby. He started harming animals as a toddler. He is a psychopath. His mother was a horrible and disgusting person. She definitely mentally abused him and had not been sober a day of his life, but he definitely brutally murdered her in cold blood and asked his only friend to help dispose of the body.
The system absolutely failed this kid.
My heart sank hearing what she did to him. I'm not all that surprised that he lost it once things got that physical. Despite everything he's said, I do believe it was in self defense
His abusive violent mother, the Police not responding to reports of his abuse, the school system, the legal system, all failed this person.
He's a murderer by law, by taking a life, and he's a victim of abuse too. I sincerely hope he's moved on with his life, and is doing ok these days.
I didn't hear anything damning with the information provided in this video, just a living being defending themselves from abuse and violence.
That's how I see it.
Yeah the system failed him for sure but it's quite obvious he killed his mother with intent. He only got 8 years for it though so im sure it was worth it to him in the end. I know it would have been worth it to me.
Pokemon is basically the Sonic of Nintendo
@@73delgado To be real though... I don't care that he killed her intentionally. I don't care if he even planned it. Dude had mental issues and was abused as fuck. He should have spent the minimum necessary time in a mental institution to deem him not a threat to society, because I find it hard to believe he would ever murder someone again, and spending 8 years in prison is way more likely to make him commit other crimes than proper mental help would.
@@im1fadedRob it doesn't matter what you think of the situation. He killed his mother with intent and that is a crime and the punishment is prison. To many people in this day and age would just love to see killers walk free or get next to no punishment just because the circumstances make the killers actions seem justified but that's not how the law works. Best example is whenever some kills a pedo people celebrate and call the killer a hero and want the person to walk free but most of the time it ends in real prison time for the killer because they broke the law plain and simple. Just goes to show most Americans care about revenge and not justice
@@73delgadohow is it justice to be beat and abused by a parent for years? What about the police that failed to do their job? Child protective services failing? The only person who faces consequences is the person who put an end to the cycle. The law isn’t justice, it never was and never will be. Laws exist for stability, justice isn’t stability.
Horrible old woman robbed that poor kid of his life
She was a single mother who made bad choices in life and decided to use her son as a punching bag until he broke mentally.
I feel so bad for him. He definitely did this in self defense and does not deserve the sentence he got.
It sounds like it went beyond what self defense technically covers, but this is a kid who took years of abuse for his whole life, nobody protected him, and he snapped eventually. Really, this is a case where he should have got put in a psychiatric hospital to try and fix him. At least he only did a little under 6 years.
I'm not so sure.
Hitting her head severely times against the wall/floor and stabbing her seven times is kinda weird for a self-defense case
Honestly, his situation reminds me of Gypsy Rose and it’s sad that the justice system did not give him the same grace. While the brutality of the murder was certainly heinous, it sounds like the majority of society had failed this young man. Everyone seemed to know of her abuse towards him, but nothing was done. : /
The problem is that self-defense legally requires that killing is essentially the only option. It sounds like with him changing the story and smashing her head against the ground multiple times, the jury found it suspicious enough to not count it as self-defense
Did the mom deserve it? Obviously. And most would probably agree he didn’t do anything morally wrong, especially since she did say she would kill him. But it seems that from a legal perspective, it wasn’t enough. Sad, really
"He definitely did this in self defense"
I feel like people don't understand what self defense is anymore.
To me he's a victim not a murderer and instead of putting him on trail they should put the American Justice System and Child Protective Services on trial for not protecting him when he was growing up.
He is both. Two things can be true at the same time.
Trial* (sorry)
put urself on trail and let someone who can proof read take ur life
@@casteanpreswyn7528So when someone’s going to attempt to kill you, you’d rather just let it happen eh?
@pr9334 nope, but as far as I can tell he had no defensive wounds. I also wouldn't, after beating them unconscious, stab them 7 times. I'd call EMS and the police.
Messed up... end your life and your mother gets convicted or you end your mother's life and you get convicted. Dude was in a no win situation but he chose to live, suffering the consequences of his mother's actions.
I hope TurkeyTom makes a "Pokemon Degenerates" video someday
@smc587 this isn't the time or place, dude.
@@SMCwasTaken turkey tom is not someone that anyone should look up too, honestly he is a Deg@@nerate
I don't know if the accounts about self defense were true, but either way, you had a powder keg just waiting to go off. It was a matter of time before one of them seriously hurt or killed the other. Even if he did straight up murder the mother, I can't say the mother wouldn't have done the same at some point. He was really in a no-win situation no matter what the circumstances.
Also 📯Hoenn📯 has the Best Music out of all Regions, those French Horns sound Intimidating and Beautiful 😩👌
Fite me Gen 5 fanboys
Literally everyone who knows him: it was self defense.
Cops: yeah weve gotten calls about violence on her child
Jury: DURRR HURRR GUILTY
Jail is extremely traumatizing. If anything it'd make a kid worse.
If anything the jail was nicer to be in than around his mother. I guarantee the inmates would have been more pleasant to be around.
Just because they are "bad" guys by law doesn't mean they are monsters...
It was almost certainly because of the premeditation indicated in the social media post and him soliciting a friend to help cover it up. It’s unfortunate, because I agree with you. Kid was a victim.
@@raiyanrazni Well bad guy criminals or not, a lot of the time those guys haveto worry about the guards as much as each other. Just because someone has a badge and uniform on doesn't mean they'll be professional. Those guys allow and perpetuate a lot of awful stuff too. Sometimes on purpose, other times negligently.
@mayayamato7351 you're talking out of your ass. Stop using orange Is the new black as your basis for reality.
Just from his background, something like this was bound to happen regardless if he liked pokemon or not
Agreed
so let me get this straight, mother abuses her child, she literally fantasizedabout killing him and no one cares? but when he does something he is a killer? this is why i hate humanity
Fr fuck humanity
It’s just like in School nobody does anything when a kid is getting bullied but once they stand up for themselves they get into trouble
It’s such a sad world we live in
Well he did stick a knife in her and she died so labelled a murderer... Mum may of had fantasies but didn't carry out the murder it's a dog eat dog world only the strong survive
@@Nitehawkmk77you’re gross and I hope you’re just a troll and don’t seriously mean that. Are you suggesting he should’ve just kept allowing himself to live in fear until she did act on it? Someone on drugs and alcohol is completely unpredictable. This case reminds me of gypsy rose - I don’t believe these people will kill again because these circumstances were so specific
@@AbstractOddity Think what you like... But from my side I generally believe the Mum should have had severe consequences before it escalated to a killing, it's sickening that school and local authorities did nothing regards to support and they have blood on their hands!! Due to a young man pushed over the edge as couldnt see anyway out
Terry wasn’t the monster here, his mother was. She abused the kid for so long and destroyed his self esteem with absolutely no remorse and even fantasized about killing him. I say she got what she deserved.
She was a monster and so is Terry. Terry is a true psychopath. Knew him as a baby and he started harming animals as a toddler. DCFS is the biggest failure after years of ignoring people's calls.
If he hadn't turned and tried to do the whole 'hide the body' thing I think there would be a leniant jury. As much as it can count for sudden anxiety over the situation, a lot of people will read that as being horribly uncaring for his mother and not caring about what he did.
You’re probably not wrong but he obviously didn’t plan the murder out so he likely freaked out and wasn’t sure in how much trouble he’d be in if he called the cops
I agree, though in his youth he did not think things through. A teenager is not going to understand the optics.
@@rzthalegend262and keep in mind the kid has Asperger’s. A neurotypical person would have trouble processing something like this, so imagine how much worse it would be for someone with Asperger’s
I don't think he "Planned out the murder". As someone who grew up in a scarily similar situation to his (but obviously never killed nor ever tried to kill or hurt my mother) I can 100% understand how a drug addict/alcoholic mother can become extremely violent. Very quickly. I myself was physically attacked on multiple occasions when I was younger and my mother also made frequent remarks about taking my life. This kid was failed by everyone in his life and community. I am glad that he is out! I only hope he is given the proper mental help he so desperately needs.
Right what was with that comment at the end? Maybe the video creator is more of a psychopath than the "murderer" showcased in the video 0.o
He definitely planned it. Terry is a psychopath. His mother was a disgusting and horrible person, but Terry is also. He harmed animals as a toddler. He tried to get help hiding the body and lied about how he killed her and changed his story multiple times. I personally knew him and he was definitely a monster.
"Killed his mom because she used garchomp" made me laugh more than i care to admit.
Yeah I admit I laughed at that too
Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but I think if a kid is proven to be facing violent abuse from a parent or relative and severely injures or kills them, it should count as self defense and they shouldn't be charged for it.
Right along with you, it’s self defense, his mom was abusing and threatening him and he was just a scared kid who didn’t want to die …
That is far from unpopular. Many agree with this, myself included.
Can’t just let them go free, but definitely psychiatric care instead of just jail. He didn’t kill anyone else but the person abusing him. That can be rehabilitated.
Classic "teachers when the bullied kid fights back" moment
The ending was completely uncalled for. "If he planned out the murder a little but better he would have gotten away with it". He was charged with 2nd degree which means no premeditation.
^^^ he didnt plan, he was abused
The court officials charged him with 2 1st degree murders. Even though there was only one body. This case is beyond fucked up. It never should have made it to court. Evidence of the mothers intent on killing Terry existed prior to the killing. Truthfully he should have buried her in an unmarked grave. She deserves it.
Gamer from Mars tends to have the worst takes at the end of his videos, I don’t know why.
What an evil mother, There was so many warning signs and no one did anything. This whole thing was preventable.
KingEmpoleon is more of a victim here. He was just a kid dealing with an abusive, alcoholic, Xanax-addicted parent.
I hope he doesn't follow in her footsteps to try to make himself feel better though. (It's difficult not to do when you have an abusive parent)
Maybe dont abuse your children? I dont feel bad for her tbh. I feel bad for the traumatized kid if anything.
i felt bad for the mom until she started abusing her kid. Nothing ever excuses treating your own child horribly.
@@Sketchy_2 Did you miss the very first part where she lost custody of her daughter for getting intoxicated in front of her daughter? There shouldn't have been any sympathy for her from the get-go.
Honestly this dude was screwed no matter what choices he made.🐱
dude your profile is literally a furry
@@wacko_boiiingand thats relevant how exactly?
@@MrBounceoutboi He was either gonna be killed by his mother or kill his mother himself so it was a lose-lose situation which is the point of this story
He had an option to leave for alternate housing. It was all set and ready and he told DCFS he didn't want to leave anymore and killed her a few days later. He was given an out but chose to stay.
Terry went through a hell no child should have to endure, and I believe his letter about how the justice system failed and abuse prevailed.
He wasn't a criminal mastermind. Him changing his stories wasn't a series of lies unfolding. He was a teenager who didn't know how to react after he had a fight to the death with his own mom.
I've nearly been strangled to death more than once by someone I once considered family, and I would've stabbed as many times as necessary if I could've reached a knife.
There needs to be a Retrial for this guy
Edit: Especially for all the charges to be dropped and the record to be clean
Even the most innocent of people can be broken and can snap
What a monster of a mother.
def dont blame him,. that kind of abuse can make anyone snap
Fr and not to mention that court was corrupt they should had helped him
I don't really blame Terry for what he did. Given the abuse he suffered through and his mom's open hatred towards him, it's no surprise that this happened
I can completely understand what Terry had gone through, because I was severely abused by a male family member who had these 2 “rules,” which were:
1. If the younger child gets into trouble, then the older and younger child gets beaten; if the older child gets into trouble, then only they get beaten.
2. If a child weighs over 100 lbs, then they can get hit like a man.
My younger sister would do EVERYTHING in her power to piss him off, and we were beaten almost on a daily basis. He had other “punishments,” but they’re too many to list. I can count on one hand how many times, in the 9 years living with him, that I caused “trouble.”
My sister weighed about 90-95 pounds, and I weighed about 105-110/115 pounds. So, I was beaten longer and harder than my sister.
There were many, many times that we had thought about taking our mom’s weapon and killing him, but we chickened out because of our mom. I have since forgiven him, because I didn’t want to continue being his “victim,” like my sister continues to be. I am a survivor of abuse.
I don’t think that Terry should’ve served any time, because of the physical, mental, emotional and psychological abuse that he endured at the hands of his so called mother. Laws NEED to change that starts holding agencies accountable for allowing a child to remain in the abusive home!
Full sympathy for this dude. You can't blame an abuse victim for not regulating them self 100% perfectly when acting in self-defence against an abuser. He never should have been in jail
You are wrong. Terry is a psychopath. He was given an out days for this happened to live in alternate housing. Everything was set and ready for him to leave. He told DCFS he no longer wanted to leave, then he killed her. I knew him as a baby and he harmed animals as a toddler. He is a monster, and his mother was a monster. I predicted for years he would kill his mother. He refused to leave the situation, and DCFS should have taken him away as a baby. He should not be free right now. He will definitely harm someone else in the future.
@@SpeedyRed-fv3rz Got any sources to back up all that?
@@mrorange8576 back up which one, the alternative housing or the harming of animals as a toddler? I personally saw the animal harming. The alternative housing Situation is in official DCFS records that were released to the news. It does not take much Google search time to find that information. I used to live close by him. I have known him since he was a few months old. I am about 6 years older than he is. He is a true psychopath. The only reason he got off so easily is because people felt bad for not helping him before this, and they way they treated him. His mother was horrible for sure but he is still a monster.
Having faced child abuse myself, I sympathize with Terry's plight. I hope he's doing well and has been able to put this painful chapter of his life behind him.
I went to school with a kid who was heavily abuse.
He slit the throat of seven of his family members while they slept.
Needless to say he got life in prison.
Dont abuse or bully people.
“My mom threaten to kill me multiple times and is very abusive”
Cops: “cool”
“She speeds and has expired tags”
Cop: “I’m listening”
It’s all about money and stupid awards folks it’s sadly never about doing what’s right
This has little to nothing to do with Pokemon and more to do with the system failing this young man
never did i think i'd see thegamerfrommars make a video about a smogon user and even actively reference the forum. that's wild
Pokemon fans are just as bad as the Pokemon company that failed Gen 8 and 9, Pokemon is definitely the Sonic of Nintendo
Psst Hoenn has the Best Music Fite me
@@SMCwasTaken thanks for sharing
Hi ausma
@@rumiav hi rumia
@@rumiav hi rumia
"All it takes is one bad day"
You can be a saint, and be a good samaritan all your life, but one day, because you had a shitty life and your abuser, pushed you to your breaking point, YOU become the issue, not the one that was mentally berating you, and destroying everything, tearing you down in the process.
I can relate sadly....me and my sister are currently in an abusive relationship with our narcissistic brother and we live under the same roof with our parents, Our parents are good people, but somehow, we got dealt a bad hand, we've been recording him for months, but we don't know if we're protected, it's not like it's in a bathroom, but the living room...
Also, to quote your send-off:
"So there you have the story of the Pokemon Trainer who killed, and it's crazy to think that if he planned out the murder a little bit better, he probably would've gotten away with it"
This rubbed me the wrong way, the justice system/ CPS should have protected him, but ultimately failed him in this case, and yet, the phrasing here is treating him like someone who should have calculated his murder, but he was just a 16-year-old teen that just protected himself in self-defense, no one plans that...you made it out like he killed multiple people and I'm disappointed, I like your content....but the way that was phrased could have been done better.
Heck if you want phrase the title and the ending like this
Changing the title from "Pokémon's Most Notorious Killer" to "Pokémon's Most Notorious Self-Defense Case" and
"So there you have the story of the Pokemon Trainer who killed, and its crazy to think that if he planned out the murder a little bit better, he probably would've gotten away with it" to
"So there you have the story of the Pokemon Trainer who killed in self-defense"
Just like the Gypsy case. I hope he can move on with his life after he’s released. Personally I think he should have gone to a rehabilitation or something to substitute his prison sentence.
He should sue the police and those who failed to properly protect him.
He should have called the police right away and not move the body.
Except he was a kid, so he didn't think it through. After what happened, he obviously panicked!
@@YujiUedaFanadrenaline, years of trauma and the sudden realization all stack up in horrendous ways. He wasn't right in the head at that moment. Once reality finally kicked back in and he wasn't in fight or flight it was obvious he regretted it
Knives, the real pocket monster.
The true friends where the honedges we used along the way
And he catch 'em all.
I thought he killed someone over an argument about Pokemon or something. Instead he killed his mother while his hobby was Pokemon. Practically every murderer would be the "internet killer" because they like to browse the internet or the "TV killer" because they like to watch TV.
Gotta love how the title says “killer” like he’s some kind of serial killer and not someone acting in self defense
The whole video is just a victim story with his background in pokemon slapped on the front for clicks, then to close the video with "he could've gotten away with it if.." fucking weirded me out like the guy didn't just study the case
@@Kompy__He probably didn't even research the case himself and just had someone else write the script for him.
@@Star-Bubbles123 unfortunately that's probably the case
I’m so happy his sentence was short. I’m sad he was convicted at all.
bro he should've asked for a lawyer. a noted history of abuse. if you could've kept 'a' story straight or just told the truth, he could've walked and got free counseling for life. that "i'll just cut legs off so you won't be bigger than me" gave me chills. i know his lawyer was pissed when he found out he confessed. DON'T TALK TO DETECTIVES!
God please forgive me for laughing at the move set
Can't believe that he was seen as wrong in some peoples eyes when this happened, he defended himself the best he could. Hope he's doing good now.
Abuse from any parent is terrifying. My mother growing up abused alcohol and cocaine almost on a daily and would go through bipolar episodes well intoxicated and that would lead to beating the crap out of me or chocking the life out of me. A couple times I also had to stop her from cutting herself as a young boy these easily messed with me and by the time I was 16 my mom kicked me out probably for the better our friendship was super toxic and we didn’t get along but now so many years later thankfully we’ve been able to move past a lot of what made my mom so sad back then
Mother abusing son for years and the police do nothing. But the day the kid finally snaps and removes her as a threat for good, they're right on his ass. Great fucking job, CPS.
Also, he was right, She WAS a waste of space.
I don't know if this was covered in the video but she had another marriage and another child before him, and the court gave custody of her daughter to the father. And a woman has to be pretty bad for the father to get custody.
Terry should be acquitted of all murder charges, dude did what he had to and kill that demon
Nice to see somebody covering this. I remember reading about it a long time ago.
Me seeing the title and beginning of video: Terry is bad.
Me after watching the video: Terry is not bad.
I’m honestly just glad they didn’t completely screw over his life for years over this. It was self defense, and the jury deciding he was guilty was just moronic. Hope he comes out of his shell one day
Being around abusive people is so unfortunate
Absolutely broken how nothing was done for him yet he was the one who got punished.
The justice system is embarrassing.
This dude must be a Dark-type Pokemon. 💀
This is the first time I haven't really like a video, this is a child pushed to a limit no child should ever have to be, it wasn't an murder it was manslaughter fuck that comment at the end
Manslaughter is an accident. This was self defense
I feel lucky I only injured my dad after putting up with much the same situation. Not that I was living any kind of life anyway; my life already was over whether I was in prison or having to lock myself in my room for safety.
I dunno if this is so much a story about a "Killer Pokemon Trainer" - he was clearly the victim in this scenario.
I grew up in a similar environment. The loneliness you feel coming from a dysfunctional home like that.
I feel like mentally if he wasn’t broken already, he probably didn’t think he had any other way out.
A sad tale of an abused man, that people still treat like a monster.
The snarky remark about ending your mom if you want more friends was out of place. Also I don't agree with the conclusion that mentions he would have gone away with it if he had planned it better. What you just told us was obviously not a planned thing. It feels like a random tacked in conclusion. Interesting story but the writing felt shallow.
Yeah I just commented about how that closing statement bothered me
Doesn’t surprise me considering smogons name literally comes from a holocaust joke
(Smogon is Koffing’s (their mascot’s) German name, you can put the rest together)
It angers me that they will let people like this keep their kids while taking kids from parents who don't abuse them
Abuse is hardly every taken seriously when it's committed by a woman. I think what didn't help his case is that he changed his story and didn't immediately call the police.
I have never heard a more justified reason for matricide. Everyone knew about this but did little or nothing for him. May he find peace for his necessary actions.
That end comment was so out of context with everything said in the video.
If he planned it out better he'd have gotten away with it? Everything in the video suggested this was excessive self defence, there was no planning to begin with. It sounds like he defended himself while finally venting years of pent up anger.
He didn't deny it or try to hide it.
Just a horrible thing all around. I feel for him but murder is still murder and we will never know how it really went down. Maybe it was his only choice to defend himself, ormaybe he went too far. Either way, no pity for the women though, assuming all that was stated about her was true..
That closing statement was pretty inconsiderate to the situation he just finished explaining, fucking gave the whole video a bad aftertaste
Im just glad this didn't change my outlook on the final evolution of my favorite Pokemon.
Unfortunately Mothers abusing their children is all to common, and we all ignore it. The neighbors saw and heard the abuse, but ignored it until the media asked for a comment.
watching gamerfrommars talking about pokemon, feels like im 11 again.
Whats really fucked up is, in the eyes of american law, what he did doesn't qualify for the self defense plea. Thats because self defense has to be a DIRECT response to a threat against your life. What he was subjected to was an entire life of abuse and couldnt escape it. The entire reason this situation went the way it did was because you know his lawyer pressured him to give a version of events that gave that DIRECT threat needed to qualify for their plea. Because saying "i was being abused for a prolonged period of time, and without any legal way out of my situation, i took action to preserve my life that i felt was in chronic danger by my forced cohabitation with the deceased" would NOT fly and, as you can see by what happened to him in the end, its a case you wont win without your case being identical to a precedent that is favorable on you. I dont know a damn thing about wirher party, bur it just sounds like a lose lose situation and its tragic. Most people turning to drugs (alcohol is one) are doing so because something in this world is hurting them. I wonder what happened in his mothers life that resulted in what she thought was an acceptable way to raise a ND kid. Not as a way to excuse her actions, my parents treated me that way and its a wound im still trying to figure out how to heal. But just to understand that mentality. My mom gor sober and actuallt sat down with me and talked about it from her side, and it gave me a new lense to look at things through. He is never going to get that and maybe she didnt deserve that chance. The decision was made for both of them forever, though.
His so called mother was an absolute psychopath, no wonder why he snapped and killed her.
This guy was abused for years, and very violently, This wont be a harsh statement to say that technically the mom killed herself the way she treated him all of this years.
Man the encyclopedia dramatics page part was insane I almost forgot about that site.
He lived in the town right next to me, crazy because I always watch your content and now hearing a story I’ve known with more details. Small world lol
How insane is it that dcfs noted in their reports actual threats against the child and still did nothing. Completely awful.
I am of the opinion that abuse and rape victims should never be convicted for executing their attackers
I don't condone this young man's actions. It is never ok to kill another human being in any circumstance, barring the most heinous of crimes. That being said, everyone failed this person and his sentence was unwarranted.
I had abusive parents too and it's the hardest thing I've ever experienced, but the solution was to leave. RIP to the mom, but also some sympathies to him. That story changing to fit the autopsy was not good for his case. Seems like he may have acted in self-defence if he acted in other scenarios that he went through, but not the time he went at her.
He was given the opportunity to leave and live in alternate housing but chose to stay and then killed her only a few days later. He is a monster just like his mother was. The media never told the full story and all the kids in the community hated him before this. They only took his side after the murder because they all felt guilty for bullying him and not talking to him. He is truly a psychopath who even harmed animals as a toddler.
"If there's one thing I know it's this; a mother should not scorn her own son. If a woman humiliates her little boy he will become hostile and violent and debased, period."
-Ed Kemper, Mind Hunter TV series.
This is why Jury Trials are an idiotic system to settle criminal charges with. Laymen just don't have the necessary knowledge or ability to give an impartial judgement. Furthermore, the judge should've overruled the jury in this instance. I know they are reluctant to do so due to being elected, but this should've been one of those cases!
Glad someone else said this. Jury trials are terrible. Experts should be the ones involved not a bunch of idiots who can be easily swayed.
@cjlister8508 At this point I want a good amount of the court system to be automated.
Yeah put all the power in some old ass cranky judge who hasn’t had a dose of reality in 50 years
Thanks for this comment. Jury trials are an incredibly stupid Anglo-Saxon concept.
Maybe we should leave it to ChatGPT
Kids stuck in abusive households should never have to choose between continuing to suffer and a prison sentence.
Why did this RUclipsr think it was appropriate to call this guy someone who "kills" at the end, after the whole story, when it was self-defense?
Terry if you ever find yourself here and see these comments, I'm so sorry for what you had go through. You did what you had to survive and save your own life. Don't let this define you and I hope you are in a much better place. Have a great life and live it to the fullest!
Kind of wish he could enter a VGC and win. If he hadn’t sent those messages, I feel like he would’ve been free…oh well. I hope he’s living a happy life now.
That is one of the worst miscarriages of justice I think I've ever heard about.
His mother was so abusive and violent towards him to me she really needs help I feel bad for him his mother took this way too far the poor guy years of abuse took its toll something him have snapped he fought back the jury doesn't see this as we do they just made it worse he's the victim the jury didn't do their jobs right.
I feel so bad for him. My mother wasnt far from this. There was definitely potential for it to end this way. I once almost drove our car off the highway to a cliff, snapping out of it last second. These types of parents push you to your limits, make you feel like theres no way out. The courts failed him.
Legit feel bad for him. Constant beatings and abuse from his own mom, the police showed up on numerous occasions and did nothing, child protective services nowhere in sight despite how obvious the problems are, I don’t think he ever would have murdered someone if he wasn’t trapped with a monster his whole life.
He was given an out. It was set up for him to move out into alternative housing. He told them he didn't want to anymore and killed her a couple days later. He was mentally abused for sure, but never saw physical abuse. Terry is a true psychopath. He harmed animals as a toddler. I knew him as a child, I am only a few years older than he is. Saw it all, and even tried to get him help. By the time he was 5 years old I was saying he was going to kill someone one day, most likely his mother. He was not a gentle person as the people started saying after the murder. They all just felt guilty that they ignored him so they supported him. He will harm another person one day.
Sadly abused by a parent really leads to many health issues especially if their divorce. It doesn't matter if the abuse was physical or mental, it's still causing health issues to the kid, like hair loss at a young age, developing panic attacks due of constant verbal abuse, suicidal thinking and intentions. Some examples least on my experience with my older brother.
"The world pushes us without mercy, but when some push back, they point and scream 'EVIL'!"
(Thought it'd seem relevant here.)
The fact that nobody did anything makes them just as bad as her.
Really upsetting that people didn't take account of his asburgers looks like the pokemon community naver changed smh this was a abused special needs kid, tormented by a monster who was suppose to take care of him no wonder she lost custody of her daughter
God the justice system is so ass backwards.
A man can go over to another state with guns he isn't supposed to have, kill protesters but get off on self defense.
This guy killed his abusive mother in self defense and got prison time. He needs therapy, prison will only degrade his mental health.
Jacob Shoemaker is a real one. He’s got a good spirit and really did his best to look out for Terry.
Agreed
13:21 I don't understand that last part where he says "if he planned out the murder better, maybe he would have gotten away with it" but wasn't the whole point that the situation wasn't planned and it was self defense? That last quote through me for a loop because if he's out of prison now didn't he get away with it? I don't think this kid is a murderer and the legal system royally fucked him and the sad reality is its never going to get better and police are always going to be like that. Life kinda sucks if you really think about it
I've never heard of this guy and I'm a lifelong Pokemon fan. Has anyone heard of this guy?
As an autistic person how is he getting 100 years in prison but the mom got away with years of abuse to her poor son :( 😢