This is very impressive 3wheel slip test. Calibration of the system was completed for 95% of drivers, so reaction of the awd system to kick in and get the car out of stuck is set with split of second of delays. Other manufacturer may set that delays a bit quicker, but outcome result is achieved, the awd system works.
I bought my son a new 2021 Kia Seltos when he graduated from College. Has all wheel drive. He's stationed in Colorado Springs (USSF). He loves it. Never had any problems getting around on snowy days.
The traction system on the Kia looked pretty good for an SUV. Yes its not got Toyota or Land Rover level traction aids, but it would certainly be sufficient for 95% of drivers. Considering that tests have shown the Continental TerrainContact to be towards the top of the pile for road-biased mild AT tyres, it did okay. I believe this tyre also isn't snow rated with the 3PMSF sidewall marker, so again it did quite well given the conditions.
Pretty much as up to the task of any basic AWD system out there and didn’t perform above board in the least bit🙄, Tommy sits there praising like it a special system when it’s failing! 🤦🏽♂️
It’s a way for companies to cheap out, black or grey interiors. Tan, red, beige, even a cool blue as options would be nice. At least this interior does look good.
Don’t put the rollers in the concrete. We put some in at a Landrover Experience Center. They constantly filled with mud, leaves, rain, snow etc. they would fail every few months and need the bearings replacing. Your movable set look a bit more hassle to set up, but they seem to work every time. Another great video by the way.
Another reason to not mount the rollers - TFL tests a bunch of different vehicles, each with different track width and wheelbase length. Any mounting scheme would have to accommodate different spacings to line up with where a given vehicle's wheels are.
@@ThisGuyRides I don't think it's that important for all four wheels to be on an even level... The test only requires the wheel on the ground to generate enough thrust to move the wheels that are in the rollers up and over the height of the roller. Yes, the roller places those wheels at a higher level than the wheel(s) on the ground, but I don't really think it matters since the vehicle's suspension makes it so that each wheel has a significant amount of weight. Yes, the weight is unequal, but I don't think it matters since: The wheels on the ground have enough weight for traction such that if torque is being applied thrust can be generated. And the wheels in the rollers have enough weight that they act as a significant impediment to forward motion - such that the other wheel(s) have to generate a good amount of thrust. Raising the wheels that are not in the rollers would just make the test slightly harder by putting more weight on the wheels that are in the rollers.
@@mgp9733 , the Honda Pilot's system sucks. Among the bottom of the barrel next to Jeep actually. Hyundai & KIA have one of the best AWD systems in the industry.
Thanks to TFL I got a two door Wrangler back in July twenty ninteen. The Kia Telruide and the Honda Passport will never be availaible in Australia hence I Love My Jeep!
The 2023 Telluride has a Sportmatic shifter. This may have helped when getting out of the pit at the end. Just tip the shifter to the left and you can gain some control over the gearing. You could have stayed in a lower gear. Were you aware of this but did not use it on purpose? Am I misunderstanding the functionality or does it become unavailable in certain modes or conditions? I am a Telluride XPro owner as of 3 days ago. Great video. Cheers!
I had the Telluride and it was better in the mud terrain mode than the snow. Sold it when the dealers wanted to buy it back for $15,000-20,000 over asking and got the Maverick FX4 XLT
It's center differential lock is *NOT* equivalent to the 4H in a Full-time 4WD vehicle. (Like Ford's advance T-case in a Bronco or a Raptor. Or a Land Rover Range Rover) But the Kia Telluride has an AWD system(and never claims to be anything else) and a very good AWD system at that. It's actually impressive.
Well-done Kia. After seeing some premature reliability issues with Honda Pilot couple of my friends went to Kia Telluride and Hyundai Palisade route. I guess if they upgrade the tires to something like what you get on X-Pro I guess they will be perfect for CO outdoors.
Impressive AWD system. Telluride is a very appealing package overall. I think the price is unjustifiably high though considering it's priced the same as the Toyota Highlander, which will very likely prove to be more reliable long-term and have much better resale value.
This is way nicer than Toyota. Fit and finish is almost a luxury brand like Lexus and I can see it being cross shopped with the uglier Lexus options. I just sat in a MDX and the new 2023 Telluride and my tastes it’s a nicer looking than the MDX for $10k less. The MDX dash is horrible looking. Toyota and Lexus plastics look so cheap and shiny.
I think it’s got more usable room than the highlander. The issue will be the dealers, and the scheduled maintenance if it’s as expensive as other Kia’s. They continue to have best designs with weird quality issues and extra maintenance. Yes, Toyota has remarkable reliability, but most people don’t keep their cars ten years or 100k. The one or two extra repairs for an unreliable brand just don’t make that much difference. Most cars will get traded without any unscheduled maintenance if you actually do the scheduled maintenance.
It's got more usable room, and better fit and finish than the Highlander, and is up there with the RX. Their customers ( for the Telluride) aren't coming as ex toyota owners. They're coming from European brands. The Highlander attracts a different person.
Thanks Tommy!! Please do a comparison shootout video between the new 2023 Pilot Trailsport and the Telluride X-pro!! Really looking forward to TFL's verdict!
My parents had a first gen honda. The awd system was so laughably weak, I think it was marketing fraud to even call it awd. They definitely seem to improve since then, but I just can’t imagine it being anywhere close to this telluride
I’ve tested personally. 4wd works fine but the clearance is not even remotely enough for any off roading because it has such long wheel base. But if in need of a super comfortable highway driver, the All terrain is a really pleasant car. 😊
Definitely good for what it is but ultimately the haldex like Hyundai/Kia system cannot send enough torque to the rear wheels, which I believe is 50% in their system.
This makes me wonder about the upcoming 2024 Seltos. I think it's losing the DCT, so I wonder if there will be a similar off-road themed model with this capable AWD system. Could be neat.
That blow through in December my 20 S awd with OEM Pirellis handled like there was nothing going on, the only hassle came when the siskiyous turned into ice
Does this apply to the sportage? If not can you make a comparison? I feel this is more representative test for an SUV like the sportage/telluride compared to what was done earlier.
What would be a good setting for sand?? I ideally just put it in sport and traction off. But what bothers me is that I’m giving it gas and it doesn’t accelerate I have to floor it for it to pick up.
Please GET!!!!! An elite Honda Pilot 23!! Please please I would of gotten the trailsport but I wanted allll the comfort over off road stuff I’d use barely!!! I’d take the chance swapping my elite tires
23 EX-XLine here. Just passed 3500 though so still breaking it in. Friend has a ‘21 SX with over 30k and she hasn’t had any issues so far. Believe they are all mostly the same as far as the drivetrain is concerned .
The engine in the Telluride does not have hydraulic lifters like most modern engines, which means you’ll have to pay someone to manually adjust the valve train or risk engine failure.
I'm not sure if the new Kias have the dynamax AWD from Magna powertrain, but if you are looking for a used Kia Sportage or Sorento watch out for the hydraulic oil pump/AWD actuator it failed on me last week while driving in the snow to a skiing resort, other than that the Magna sistem works perfect that is the first(and hopefully the last) problem with it. It sends power to wheels whit most grip, and since is not working now i can tel there is a huge difference the car slips more and it doesn't have that "punch from behind", also the cornering is different because it used to send power to the back and to te outer wheels. Huge thumb up to the Dinamax AWD but be careful with used ones because it appears that this pump is a weak point of this sistem.
The Telluride SX Pro doesn’t seem to have skid plates. The Honda Pilot Trailsport does. Considering the relatively low ground clearance each vehicle has, it seems to me skid, plates matter, and I speak as one who had a 4WD Range Rover for 11 years and then for the past six years have had a Toyota 4Runner.
at 10:12 situations like these, you can't blame awd system or car, because tires are critical and major player in this condition. When your tires got muddy, then tires traction act as a slip-tires. Mud fills in any tire pores, massively reduced traction.
@@jraheemjefcoat429 most people don't buy car for more features, half of that features we don't use any way. The most important feature are the safety features, which every cars have now.
So you just proved you’re nothing but a petty brand snob. I’ve mainly owned Japanese and European cars (Honda, Acura, Lexus, Subaru, Mazda, BMW, Mercedes, Audi), but these Korean cars are getting so much better, I’d go with one in my next purchase.
@@kromahj Stop speaking for most people! Not everyone thinks like you, or want to settle for anything less. The one that don't care and prude about it, are Baby Boomers and Gen X drivers. Millenials and Gen Z's are taking over! They want what they want. And if they can get the latest and greatest, then they will shop elsewhere.
It affects all the lower end models with keyed ignitions, and I think newer ones are now immune to it. However, if yours is a keyless model (like my 22 Seltos SX Turbo), no need to worry as they would need to steal the fob.
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This is very impressive 3wheel slip test. Calibration of the system was completed for 95% of drivers, so reaction of the awd system to kick in and get the car out of stuck is set with split of second of delays. Other manufacturer may set that delays a bit quicker, but outcome result is achieved, the awd system works.
I bought my son a new 2021 Kia Seltos when he graduated from College. Has all wheel drive. He's stationed in Colorado Springs (USSF). He loves it. Never had any problems getting around on snowy days.
The traction system on the Kia looked pretty good for an SUV. Yes its not got Toyota or Land Rover level traction aids, but it would certainly be sufficient for 95% of drivers. Considering that tests have shown the Continental TerrainContact to be towards the top of the pile for road-biased mild AT tyres, it did okay. I believe this tyre also isn't snow rated with the 3PMSF sidewall marker, so again it did quite well given the conditions.
Did you skip over Jeep on purpose?
Pretty much as up to the task of any basic AWD system out there and didn’t perform above board in the least bit🙄, Tommy sits there praising like it a special system when it’s failing! 🤦🏽♂️
Land Rovers are 4WD. This Kia is AWD.
@@dennissmith7214 you should watch Tommy test the new CRV if you think all AWD systems perform the same.
@@mattbrew11 lol yes 😂
Kudos to Kia for figuring out that people want something other than a depressing black interior when combined with black exterior packages.
Agree 👍
23 Pilot Trailsport and Pathfinder Rock Creek come to mind. Why not offer at least one other interior color option along with the black!
I have aftermarket red leather seat covers in my car because black is over rated. 👍
It’s a way for companies to cheap out, black or grey interiors. Tan, red, beige, even a cool blue as options would be nice. At least this interior does look good.
IIRC they offer a weird plum interior on the Seltos and I think it's awesome.
Was already a fan of the previous telluride, this test just kept my levels of appreciation for the model. Great video!
Your video reviews are awesome and non-biased. Truly enjoy them all.
Don’t put the rollers in the concrete. We put some in at a Landrover Experience Center. They constantly filled with mud, leaves, rain, snow etc. they would fail every few months and need the bearings replacing. Your movable set look a bit more hassle to set up, but they seem to work every time.
Another great video by the way.
Another reason to not mount the rollers - TFL tests a bunch of different vehicles, each with different track width and wheelbase length. Any mounting scheme would have to accommodate different spacings to line up with where a given vehicle's wheels are.
Thanks for the feedback!
And for the wheels without rollers, consider using thick board same height as the rollers so all 4 wheels are on even level.
@@ThisGuyRides I don't think it's that important for all four wheels to be on an even level... The test only requires the wheel on the ground to generate enough thrust to move the wheels that are in the rollers up and over the height of the roller. Yes, the roller places those wheels at a higher level than the wheel(s) on the ground, but I don't really think it matters since the vehicle's suspension makes it so that each wheel has a significant amount of weight. Yes, the weight is unequal, but I don't think it matters since: The wheels on the ground have enough weight for traction such that if torque is being applied thrust can be generated. And the wheels in the rollers have enough weight that they act as a significant impediment to forward motion - such that the other wheel(s) have to generate a good amount of thrust. Raising the wheels that are not in the rollers would just make the test slightly harder by putting more weight on the wheels that are in the rollers.
I think we will need to see a match of this, pilot trailsport and maybe an explorer timberline
13:47 Impressive! You got out of that slim, mud pit before the sun went down 🎊 🎊 🎉
We have a '22 Telluride and a '21 Bronco, the Kia outperforms the Bronco in almost every situation of real world driving. It's an incredible vehicle!
In what ways ??
@@brohammer Comfort, quietness, smoothness, features, utility, reliability etc. Bronco only has advantage in true off road conditions.
@@JohnLee-db9zt makes sense- but in no way are they competitors, especially on ride quality measures. So this sounds right
@@brohammer you don’t understand every way???😂
Love to see the guys do a 3 way comparison with the new Pilot Trailsport, Nissan Pathfinder Rock Creek and the Kia Telluride SX-P X-PRO.
Yes!! Let’s make this happen! These are the three vehicles I’m considering and would love to see a comparison
Add the Explorer Timberline and AT4 Acadia in there too.
Pilot would smoke all of them easily.
That's a great idea!
@@mgp9733 , the Honda Pilot's system sucks. Among the bottom of the barrel next to Jeep actually. Hyundai & KIA have one of the best AWD systems in the industry.
As a 200 series owner, this thing is pretty damn impressive. I did not think these Kias were fairly capable. Great video guys
I'm impressed with the HTRAC system in our 2022 Santa Fe with all-terrain tires.
Thanks to TFL I got a two door Wrangler back in July twenty ninteen. The Kia Telruide and the Honda Passport will never be availaible in Australia hence I Love My Jeep!
Verry impressive off-road performance. Love Tommy's genuine enthusiasm.
I’ve owned a bmw x5 2012 and mercedes gle 2017 and my mother own mdx 2022 the shawd the best in class a beast
I've been diggin these ever since they came out! Love the look of these
So much better than most of the Tumbleweed Ranch videos. The added slickery is far more realistic. Well done. 👏🏼
Well done! I think that Sport mode would have kept the revs up, at least that is what I noticed with my 2019 Sorento V6.
The 2023 Telluride has a Sportmatic shifter. This may have helped when getting out of the pit at the end. Just tip the shifter to the left and you can gain some control over the gearing. You could have stayed in a lower gear. Were you aware of this but did not use it on purpose? Am I misunderstanding the functionality or does it become unavailable in certain modes or conditions? I am a Telluride XPro owner as of 3 days ago. Great video. Cheers!
I love to see you guys get the Ford Explorer timberline on your course Keep the great content coming!!!
I had the Telluride and it was better in the mud terrain mode than the snow. Sold it when the dealers wanted to buy it back for $15,000-20,000 over asking and got the Maverick FX4 XLT
That's an interesting trade in... went from a naturally aspirated V6 3 row to a tiny body on frame hybrid 3 cylinder I forget what's in the Maverick
Tommy, When will you do this test with a 2023 Honda Pilot?
as soon as they send it our way!
It's center differential lock is *NOT* equivalent to the 4H in a Full-time 4WD vehicle. (Like Ford's advance T-case in a Bronco or a Raptor. Or a Land Rover Range Rover)
But the Kia Telluride has an AWD system(and never claims to be anything else) and a very good AWD system at that. It's actually impressive.
I believe he clarified that in the video.
Well-done Kia. After seeing some premature reliability issues with Honda Pilot couple of my friends went to Kia Telluride and Hyundai Palisade route. I guess if they upgrade the tires to something like what you get on X-Pro I guess they will be perfect for CO outdoors.
I have the palisade with a 2” spacer lift and all terrains and it’s a beast!
@@MrJpags JUNK
have fun with that trash, did kia pay you to say this?
23 Sorento Base model and it is a great car, no issues at all, and I have a 100k warranty
Good job. Glad you got out
Impressive AWD system. Telluride is a very appealing package overall. I think the price is unjustifiably high though considering it's priced the same as the Toyota Highlander, which will very likely prove to be more reliable long-term and have much better resale value.
This is way nicer than Toyota. Fit and finish is almost a luxury brand like Lexus and I can see it being cross shopped with the uglier Lexus options. I just sat in a MDX and the new 2023 Telluride and my tastes it’s a nicer looking than the MDX for $10k less. The MDX dash is horrible looking. Toyota and Lexus plastics look so cheap and shiny.
@@mrkilroy9167 They give a nice interior to nake it more bearable waiting for the tow truck.
I think it’s got more usable room than the highlander. The issue will be the dealers, and the scheduled maintenance if it’s as expensive as other Kia’s. They continue to have best designs with weird quality issues and extra maintenance.
Yes, Toyota has remarkable reliability, but most people don’t keep their cars ten years or 100k. The one or two extra repairs for an unreliable brand just don’t make that much difference. Most cars will get traded without any unscheduled maintenance if you actually do the scheduled maintenance.
@@nunyabidness3075 the way the economy is right now, alot people will keep their cars
It's got more usable room, and better fit and finish than the Highlander, and is up there with the RX. Their customers ( for the Telluride) aren't coming as ex toyota owners. They're coming from European brands.
The Highlander attracts a different person.
Thanks Tommy!! Please do a comparison shootout video between the new 2023 Pilot Trailsport and the Telluride X-pro!! Really looking forward to TFL's verdict!
That's a beautiful vehicle. So many others would've gotten stuck there also. That was slime and the tires were plugged up. Fun test!
junk
I love that brown Interior. I can’t wait for kia To do a FULL refresh and add the two Exhaust Pipes to it (Hopefully)
That was a lot of fun. Kia's AWD is improved, but so is Honda's IVTM4. I think the new Pilot would have made it up trenches.
New Pilot doesn’t look so well and Honda cut some luxury features off from the Elite trim.
@al151 True. Honda dropped the ball so many ways with Elite. Fake exhaust 👎
My parents had a first gen honda. The awd system was so laughably weak, I think it was marketing fraud to even call it awd. They definitely seem to improve since then, but I just can’t imagine it being anywhere close to this telluride
Lol not a chance
Would like to see a MB E400 all terrain wagon tested
I’ve tested personally. 4wd works fine but the clearance is not even remotely enough for any off roading because it has such long wheel base. But if in need of a super comfortable highway driver, the All terrain is a really pleasant car. 😊
I would like to see this test done with the Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited and the Quadra Trac 1 system.
Definitely good for what it is but ultimately the haldex like Hyundai/Kia system cannot send enough torque to the rear wheels, which I believe is 50% in their system.
Shows that some good tires paried with a good AWD would probably help out a lot!
Very impressed! Kudos to Kia.
May I suggest marking the side wall of the tire so you can messure the rotation of the tire.
Are you guys going to bring in the Ineos Grenadier when it's available?
This makes me wonder about the upcoming 2024 Seltos. I think it's losing the DCT, so I wonder if there will be a similar off-road themed model with this capable AWD system. Could be neat.
Need to compare this test with the Outback wilderness.
That’s was fun I was so hyped on that last try
That blow through in December my 20 S awd with OEM Pirellis handled like there was nothing going on, the only hassle came when the siskiyous turned into ice
love the TFL slip test
I am excited to see how the pilot trails port handles this!!😁
It's too easy for a TrailSport. Let's try an ice and snow road stability test against the Bronco Raptor XL.
Honda pilot still kills this test with the awd system from 2016. Well, 2005 starting with Acura RL.
I’d like to see a head to head off-pavement comparison between the Kia Telluride X-Pro vs the Subaru Ascent.
Gotta test the palisade now to see if there’s a difference
Does the telluride have tow hooks front and rear?
Awesome,I’m glad I got the 2023 Palisade 💪
Does this apply to the sportage? If not can you make a comparison? I feel this is more representative test for an SUV like the sportage/telluride compared to what was done earlier.
Can we see the ford explorer timberline please
The cop cruiser?
How will the Honda Pilot Trailsport perform on this slippery trail? Which is the better AWD system?
If I’m stress out about getting up hills, it’s not the vehicle for me. For $55k you can get a Lexus gx460 for $52k and go anywhere
What would be a good setting for sand?? I ideally just put it in sport and traction off. But what bothers me is that I’m giving it gas and it doesn’t accelerate I have to floor it for it to pick up.
Solid video and demonstration...Do you think this would handle basic to mild off roading?
Mild sure
Can’t wait until you test the Pilot TrailSport!
I have the X Pro, thank you so much for doing this video, now to hit the trail after I drop my wife off at Costco
That was fun! And I don't care for so much mud!! Thx!
I wonder if engineers see these results and reprogram vehicles to pass these test or have their own slip test because of you guys lol
Lets wait for the new pilot trailsport
I think for KIA it’s a very impressive SUV, I like this car great capabilities.
Does the Sorento have the same all wheel drive system?
Where I live the mud essentially turns to concrete when it dries up on your vehicle :-)
Please GET!!!!! An elite Honda Pilot 23!! Please please I would of gotten the trailsport but I wanted allll the comfort over off road stuff I’d use barely!!! I’d take the chance swapping my elite tires
Very nice testing. Would like to see this same test with a 2023 kia sorento if at all possible
The unstuck pedals on the right Tommy.
Hope that Kia provides rubber floor mats. Carpet mats are useless most of the time. AWD is up to the task.
Anyone here have one ? How many miles and has it been reliable ?
Are you saying Kia's aren't reliable kid?
I have 20 telluride 50,000 miles no problems so far
23 EX-XLine here. Just passed 3500 though so still breaking it in. Friend has a ‘21 SX with over 30k and she hasn’t had any issues so far. Believe they are all mostly the same as far as the drivetrain is concerned .
The engine in the Telluride does not have hydraulic lifters like most modern engines, which means you’ll have to pay someone to manually adjust the valve train or risk engine failure.
@@moloono1 more fake news spewing, eh troll?
I'm not sure if the new Kias have the dynamax AWD from Magna powertrain, but if you are looking for a used Kia Sportage or Sorento watch out for the hydraulic oil pump/AWD actuator it failed on me last week while driving in the snow to a skiing resort, other than that the Magna sistem works perfect that is the first(and hopefully the last) problem with it. It sends power to wheels whit most grip, and since is not working now i can tel there is a huge difference the car slips more and it doesn't have that "punch from behind", also the cornering is different because it used to send power to the back and to te outer wheels. Huge thumb up to the Dinamax AWD but be careful with used ones because it appears that this pump is a weak point of this sistem.
he blinded me with science great job what a treat 🙃
The Telluride SX Pro doesn’t seem to have skid plates. The Honda Pilot Trailsport does. Considering the relatively low ground clearance each vehicle has, it seems to me skid, plates matter, and I speak as one who had a 4WD Range Rover for 11 years and then for the past six years have had a Toyota 4Runner.
Do you have an opinion of this models ability to handle soft beach sand without getting stuck?
What no paddle shifters to get you on that lower gear?😊
Smart Mode is actually designed for maximizing fuel economy based on your driving habits, so yeah it's not "Smart AWD" lol
Happy new year everyone stay healthy n be safe !!😊
Snow wheeling is difficult for every vehicle!
Test explorer timberline
Get the stock ranger on the slip test before changing the tires.
When did y’all film this? I thought y’all had the Telluride months ago
at 10:12 situations like these, you can't blame awd system or car, because tires are critical and major player in this condition. When your tires got muddy, then tires traction act as a slip-tires. Mud fills in any tire pores, massively reduced traction.
Pretty good for a front wheel drive based system. Not as good as the ridgeline though.
It looks like a ready made cop car! Your thumbnail made me slow down!
Hey Tommy, what do you think of the newest jeep compass?
Compare the new Outlander, Sportage, Tuscon, and the RAV4 off-road or an AWD test.
It would be great to see a comparison video of a telluride, Pilot, and a Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited.
Did he get in with those mud shoes?
Always thought they look good , would never pay that kind of money for a Kia though
The new Highlander is just as much as this Telluride. But the Telluride offers more features and technology.
@@jraheemjefcoat429 most people don't buy car for more features, half of that features we don't use any way. The most important feature are the safety features, which every cars have now.
So you just proved you’re nothing but a petty brand snob. I’ve mainly owned Japanese and European cars (Honda, Acura, Lexus, Subaru, Mazda, BMW, Mercedes, Audi), but these Korean cars are getting so much better, I’d go with one in my next purchase.
@@kromahj Stop speaking for most people! Not everyone thinks like you, or want to settle for anything less. The one that don't care and prude about it, are Baby Boomers and Gen X drivers. Millenials and Gen Z's are taking over! They want what they want. And if they can get the latest and greatest, then they will shop elsewhere.
@@jraheemjefcoat429 like you said, the generation that want all that, they can go somewhere. Like I said not everyone care
This KIA is so good, all the haters are hiding in their basements.
lmao no they are not, many commenting the TRUTH that these are junk
Would love to see some Compass or Cherokee T.H be tested!! If i lived closer, I'd bring my Compass or there and have fun!
All terrain tires makes all the difference.
I have walked a mile in gooey mud like that, you don't have to convince me of the challenge you had faced.
Pretty good, Tommy. I like these slip tests.
Is being on a slight incline going to skew your slip test on the rollers ? asking for a friend.
I wish they were doing them on an incline. Would actually be a challenge and help differentiate the top systems
I think this trail will be a hands-down victory for the new2023 Honda Pilot Trailsport
Smart mode is smart.
Would be interesting to see 2023 pilot trailsport being compared to this one.
It ssems like you forgot to depress brakes pedal while shifting to neutral...
Nice to see KIA catch up with VWs 4motion most of these systems in newer suvs are pretty good.
Has the usb Hotwire steal your Kia thing been fixed now or no? I will never get a Kia thanks to how easy it is to Hotwire and steal.
It affects all the lower end models with keyed ignitions, and I think newer ones are now immune to it. However, if yours is a keyless model (like my 22 Seltos SX Turbo), no need to worry as they would need to steal the fob.
That is probably the worst condition a vehicle like that is designed for, it did very well!!