Is the New Ford Maverick Tremor Legit Or an Off-Road Poser? I Test It vs a Tacoma TRD To Find Out!
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0:00 Intro
1:27 Tacoma vs Pit
7:48 Maverick vs Pit
16:38 Tacoma vs Dirty Deeds
18:23 Maverick vs Dirty Deeds
19:43 Tacoma vs Home Free
22:38 Maverick vs Home Free
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This wasn't a test of which is better off-road, this was a test to see if a car-based small truck could keep up with a traditional off-roader.
For 1/2 the truck the Ford wasn't to bad.
And the car/truck actually has a decent payload haha.
And the maverick tremor is much cheaper than any TRD Pro
@@MultiSpencerc and the Maverick will be in a scrapyard while the Tacoma is still running like a top 😂
@@sixtomidnight1492 Considering it costs twice as much and gets even worse gas mileage by the time the Maverick and the Tacoma are both dead the Maverick will have handily beat it in money savings. Considering the Maverick will probably do 150,000 miles without to much of a problem I doubt the Tacoma will do the same to 300,000 to make it worth it.
Plus this whole test is apples to oranges anyway, they're both good tools at what they do within peoples needs or budgets.
I think anyone with a set of eyes can tell the Taco has more ground clearance.
A classic case of Japanese engineers specing their vehicles conservatively.
I'm sure that number is minimum ground clearance, which would be the height to the bottom of the differential in the Taco. Midpoint height and overall body clearance is obviously much higher on the Tacoma.
Anyone with a set of eyes can tell which one is gonna be better without watching the video
@@HAHA.GoodMeme ground clearance is measured at the lowest point (rear differential on the tacoma).
Measure to bottom of diff on taco and Measure middle of subframe on maverick. That’s where they get the numbers from.
Ground clearance aside, Mav Tremor seems fairly decent. Likely just perfect for most people who like to do things recreationally.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Perfect for rough gravel roads like I’d end up using it on
Exactly a nice little camping/hunting/fishing truck
@@kevinmiller4312 a front wheel drive hybrid Mav can handle that haha
Yes, it's a capable, affordable nice small truck. I would option if out w/proven Gen2 - 2.0L TGDI & FX4. That's all ya need for a perfect compact truck.
Taco made more creaks & weird sounds 🤔 then I've ever heard on a new 4wd.
Considering this Maverick is basically a modern day Ranchero, it did rather well. This isn't designed to compete with the Tacoma.
Dumbest comparison I’ve seen on RUclips…..
The test would have been more interesting with a Honda Ridgeline vs. Maverick.
The AWD system in my 2019 Ridgeline has never let me down. I've had it on beach sand, deep snow, muddy/rough trails. The Tremor looks very comparable. Keep 'em where they're designed to go, and they will take you to some amazing places.
Or maverick vs civic.
They can only test what's available to them in the press fleet at the given time
Or Suburu
Or a horse
I think people drastically underestimate how capable AWD is becoming these days for sure.
Nope. Some of us just know how good a 4WD can be with real diff-lockers, at least one solid axle that articulates well, durable high-clearance bumpers, and the ability to easily fit serious offroad tires.
Modern AWDs keep getting better and better, but they are still not for serious offroading. They are fantastic on slippery roads though, especially with appropriate tires.
The Maverick Tremor is not even a Jeep KJ SelecTrac with just dual lockers and DuraTracs offroad. A 4WD Ranger/Bronco/Taco/Gladiator/Wrangler/Frontier/Colo with dual lockers and oversized siped mudders would leave it behind in serious terrain.
@@RKmndo he said nothing about it being as capable as a true 4x4 off road. 99 percent of 4x4 owners never even go on terrain to use it. Lol
Awd makes sense.
@@tanishazoa138 Read the title of the video. It specifically mentions "offroad".
@@RKmndo you're not even making sense. Not wince did I say anything about the title or any of these trucks not being considered off road. I stated facts. The majority of so called off road trucks never go off road. So awd is the perfect thing. Enjoy your t living in denial 🤡
@@RKmndo your point? it clearly went off road... did it do it as well as a TRD pro? hell no... but I just went on the ford website and built a TREMOR maverick for 35k. The fact they can even be spoken about in the same sentence is amazing, I saw no issues with how well the AWD behaved in this video, clearly the limiting factor was clearance not the AWD system.
The Ford Maverick is the truck that most people will ever NEED. I had one on order, but canceled due to the supply chain shortage at the time. I do regret not being more patient, as it’s plenty of truck for those of us that spend 99% of our time on pavement & venture onto fire trails or Pismo Beach on rare occasions.
I’d love to see a compare on the maverick, bronco sport and the scape.
Really show the difference on and off road of all three versions of the same platform.
Great video Andre
That would be pretty cool to see, especially for the AWD system on the Escape.
Same vehicle
@@DUI5MSN it’s built on the same platform but the Bronco Sport has a lot more choices for the off roading.
@@atmartens The equivalent offroad Bronco Sport to the Maverick Tremor starts at $37k vs. $29k for the Maverick. A steal if you ask me
The Bronco sport is an escape🤣
For a daily driver and hauling my mountain bikes or camping gear around, I think I would rather have the Maverick.
Depends where your riding and camping.
@@joesteel3459 When I ride, all the trails are easily accessible within minutes of pave roads. Same with the campgrounds I would stay in when I'm riding. If I was trying to do off-roading / overlanding stuff, then that's a different story and I would rather have my 4Runner. As it is, I banged the hell out of the skid plates on it running some class four roads in Vermont.
Just received my mav tremor and it's definitely all the truck I need. The price difference is astounding, I couldn't justify spending almost double on a Tacoma TRD Pro.
This is the best comment.
U don't need a pro tacoman, the sr starts at 27
I just priced it out. Mav Tremor is $35k, the TRD Pro is $48k. The TRD Off Road (Which will do basically the same as the Pro did in these tests) is $38k. Happy your Mav works well.
@@johntotten4872it’s a shame how the Tacomas powertrain is, the AT sucks to drive, the engine is borderline underpowered, and shitty MPG to boot
@@squidinkRC I would buy the manual transmission model. I am fine with the Tacoma's mileage, 20+ mpg for a real truck is good in my book. To each his own.
It seems the Maverick did very well. It’ll certainly take you down forest service roads to your hidden fishing hole for a reasonable price. Little less room in the bed for a bunch of gear, but probably works for most purposes. On the other hand, there are plenty of low mileage Tacos or Frontiers available. Still, it seems a decent vehicle.
Trouble with used Tacomas in particular is how expensive they are, and you never know how they were treated. A new Tacoma SR trim may be the best bet as a cross-shopper to the Maverick.
Them having the same ground clearance makes sense to me. Your GC is just from the lowest point of the vehicle to the ground. The Maverick might have almost all of the chassis at 9.whatever inches from the ground where only the lowest dangly bit of the Tacoma is at that same measurement. Impressed by the plucky little thing honestly.
Excellent video, It's always good to include a benchmark so viewers know where the line is drawn between the two classes. I was impressed that the Maverick figured out most of that course without needing the locker. The only thing missing from this video was for Andrey to hold up a tape measure to each vehicle to see who's lying when it comes to ground clearance. I suspect the Toyota value is conservative or based on a different wheel/tire package, but I don't know, perhaps Ford's number is way off.
This is a great lesson on specs. The Tacoma's clearance is the low point of the diff. The fords ground clearance is the low point of the suspension arm which is probably almost level with the whole underside. The breakover angle speaks to MIDDLE vehicle ground clearance and the wheelbase length.
Angle specs matter WAY more than clearance specs.
A whole lot of Maverick owners are going up to 245/65R17 tires. It's literally just a smidge bigger than the 235's that come on the truck, but just even out the looks more. That extra half inch of ground clearance sure could come in handy.
@@matts1166 245 65 is the stock Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk size.
@@off-roadingexplained8417 Yeah, "upgrading" to be the same size as the stock size of other 4x4's. Honestly, the 235's on this one look a tad small, and the 225's on the low-end packages just look tiny. I understand this is basically a truck that wants to be a car, but still.
@@matts1166 that's not a half inch ground clearance more. it's half inch more overall diameter, so only half of that is raising the truck, so only 1/4 inch more clearance. it's something, but just go to 235-70-17 which is 1 inch bigger, half inch ground clearance more
@@opaextreme9282 Yeah, you're right. I remember making my post and doing the math thinking 6mm, but wrote half an inch. I did mean 1/4. Thanks for the correction.
Thanks for sharing. Now that you've taken the FX4 and Tremor version of the Maverick off road. I suggest taking the basic AWD Maverick on the same trail as a good comparison to the FX4 and Tremor. packages.
Another thing to note the Tremor package can not get the 4k Tow option, which will be a deal breaker for some.
Yeah. I wanted the softer suspension of the Tremor but I didn't want to lose the extra payload and towing ability. My FX4 will do just fine.
@@Ichibuns I'd love to see someone Frankenstein a half-way point.
The flexible frame on the Taco allows for better wheel articulation than the stiff unibody on the Ford. I think TFL should actually measure the ground clearance, approach, departure and break over angles rather than depend on manufacture's specs which may be "creative". The Taco seems to have more static ground clearance as well as better articulation.
There’s no point. The manufacturers aren’t pulling those numbers out of the sky…
I think it’s very little to do with frames and much more to do with suspension style. Don’t overthink it. Solid axles are just flat out better for slow off road applications than independent suspensions.
@@shitloveaduck The Ranger Tremor needs bigger tires to run even with the Tacoma because it still doesn't match the articulation. Put 31s on the Tremor and it's still advantage Tacoma. Put 32s on the Tacoma and it will edge out the Tremor again, though you need a leveling kit for the front of the Taco to clear 32s without rubbing and the Tremor has a 1 inch lift over a stock Ranger.
@@Mako2-1 No, not the sky. They are pulling numbers out of something considerably closer to the ground.
The majority of the articulation comes from the solid rear axle
Would love to see you actually measure the ground clearances on these vehicles. The manufacturers do not specify where that measurement is from, would be informative for you guys to figure out and show those results.
its the minimum figure. Thats why the TRD has the same.
@@josiandshanelivingonmaui3786 I know, it's probably measured from the bottom of the rear diff on the Tacoma. Just read all the comments here though, so many people are questioning the ground clearance numbers. I think it would make sense for them to do some explanation on them.
@@trailrunnah8886 it's to the diff on the maverick too. Suspension arms aren't factored in GC measurements as it's a variable number. The diff is fixed.
All of these truck/SUV manufacturers need to finally be held accountable for ALWAYS lying about their ground clearance. They all have a ground clearance of literally ZERO inches because each one of them drags around at least four rubber things that scrape the ground (some trucks even add more of them and have six). Why are we letting these companies get away with this???
Love TFL reviews. Andre is awesome!
Great review Andre! Hopefully someone with a leveled/lifted FX4 Maverick will let you test it in your pit to see how it does compared to the Tremor.
I really wish that you can import a Toyota Hilux so that you can compare them both but since you have a 2019 ranger I suggest you guys do a comparison on the ranger and the tacoma to see if a base model can keep up with a TRD PRO
They have a Ranger now
A Hulu newer than 30 years wouldn’t be street legal. It would cost them too much money to import a vehicle that they can only use on the ranch because they wouldn’t be able to sell it here for what they paid for it. It’d have to be sold somewhere else.
Whistlin Diesel has pretty much proved a Hilux is the king of taking abuse lol
They've already done that, it's close, but the Taco edges out the Ranger mostly due to better articulation. And Tacoma and Hilux would be splitting hairs off road, underneth the exterior the two are almost the same truck and starting next year they will be the same truck again. The Hilux gets optional diesel engines that the Tacoma does not, but that's the main difference aside from exterior styling.
@@ryanhessler8966 Between those videos and the old school top gear one, that is certainly true
Fun Fact: The sounds at the Taco makes with Crawl Control keeps the cylindrical probe from Star Trek 4 away.
If you want enthusiast level off roading, get a vehicle purpose built for it like a Wrangler or Bronco. Otherwise the FX4/Tremor package is more than enough to handle getting to the campsite.
Andre: the way you can simulate "Low" or "transfer case" level is paddle shifting down to 1st gear... lock in 1st gear. Same with Honda. 1st gear on 9 and 10 speed autos are very low and can ALMOST simulate a transfer case mode. Honda Truck platform (I VTM4) comes out to a nearly 22:1 gear. Ford is around 20:1. Try it! They are pretty good!
The Toyota Tacoma is great off road. One of the best Love the color! The AWD based unibody vehicles do well for what they are. They use technology to gain ability off-road. They come close to transfer case 4wd, but that's not their purpose in life.
It's not bad, that Tacoma has a 36:1 crawl ratio which is very typical for modern 4x4s with low range. Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk which has the same 9 speed transmission as the Honda's has a crawl ratio in the 50:1 range as it combines that low 1st gear with a 2.57:1 low range
No paddle shifter in the Maverick - just a button in the centre of the shifter to select low gear or gears.
I thought he said it has No paddle shifters. 🤔 Which it should for the reason you said.
for an AWD, unibody vehicle with no transfer case. I say the Maverick did pretty good.
I appreciate that there are people like this doing these videos for people like us. 😊
A 1-1.5” lift on a Tremor would send it to another level
Yep lift and good 31s and it will go most anywhere.
Cool video! Tacoma’s lowest point is under the engine skid plate. It is 9.4 inches there but under the rest of the truck there is much more clearance.
Thought the Taco was the lowest point of the front control arms? engine skidplate is like 10.3 inches, though TRD pro may be less due to the protruding TRD skidplate where the TRD off road has a steel skidplate which is tucked up better
@@mrvwbug4423 Its steel but only as thick as a tin can. The low point is the bottom of rear diff.
@@mrvwbug4423 I’ll have to have a look at my Offroad. I have the skid plate and can check. But you’re probably right. Definitely much more clearance under the rest of the truck though!
That Crawl Control in the Taco is absolutely horrible sounding. You'd think Toyota would refine the system a little.
The new generation of crawl control found on the updated Tundra is much quieter. I assume it will be the same for the 2024 Tacoma.
Pretty awesome that it can keep up. We are excited about our HPR XLTremor when it arrives. We also plan on putting air bags in the rear to keep the tail up a lil more aswell as going to 31" tires eventually. Should help the angles significantly.
Keep up? Did we watch the same video? The Mav didn't do every obstacle that the Taco did. I'm not holding that against the Mav, it's a different class of vehicle, but it in no way kept up.
See you out on the trail…and believe me you won’t be able to follow the Tacoma, good luck.
Put 31 MTs on it and it will do just fine. I will also fit in it.
@@takenpictures Put 31s on it and wait until its not a loaner promotional vehicle that they cant scratch and it would be fine.
Great objective review! Just what I was looking for on the Maverick Tremor.
It was not a ‘which is better’ comparison, but rather a comparison to a benchmark.
Well done!
Keeping up with a TRD Pro Taco is no easy feat for any stock truck. The Mav has its place and the Tremor is damn good for what it is.
Nice comparo, but really, they aren’t in the same class. I think the Ranger vs the Taco would be more realistic.
They aren't making the two compete, they're just using the Tacoma as a benchmark.
From the start, he said they aren’t in the same class. But the only truck knocking on the TRD pro’s door right now would be a frontier pro 4x with tires and upgraded suspension.
Great video. The Maverick's AWD system is surprisingly good. Hopefully Tommy will do the slip test on it. With the tremor package I would think it would be lifted more with better tires. I really don't think the maverick should have the tremor name on it. It really isn't in the same class as the Tacoma and with no transfer case I don't think if ever could be. Thanks guys
Buyers can lift it. But as is it can still hit 30mpg. A maverick forum member has theirs already and has, although their avg so far is 25mpg but thats with winter idling and hilly roads. So a hardcore soft roader with 30mpg. Call it what ever its gonna be a new benchmark.
@@josiandshanelivingonmaui3786 that's a very good point. 30 mpg is what makes the truck what it is. I was just thinking that giving it the tremor name made me think it was more capable off road than it actually is.
They did the slip test with the bronco sport that shares the awd drive system! Spoiler it did great
@@ianberry5562 thanks man. I somehow missed it. I assumed it would as well as it did here.
Its like when Toyota puts a TRD badge on a camry or the bronco sport is a pretty miserable excuse to use the bronco name. I mean that one is just an overpriced escape for people who want to burn money.
You make the best videos of anyone at TFL
Great video, as you just proved the little Maverick is a real truck.
I think it's more of a truck than the Hyundai.
🤔 "Everything" is "more of a truck" than Hyundai.
@@RRr-yl8zr
Very true.
That 360° camera in the Taco looks straight out of 2006
You are so right! But shame on the Ford not even having cameras...and even a heated seat! The engineers should have been fired for that.
@KillerX1911 I agree, should be standard today, but I did add some kit for $100 on my fusion.
The Taco TRD Pro is GREAT for almost all 4x4 off-road duties and if you want simplicity then this truck is just fine for most people. My ONLY beef is price versus included technology and interior comfort. The NEW Chevy Colorado ZR2 and GMC Canyon AT4 trucks are now SURPASSING the Taco interior-wise and built-in tech-wise due to the SIGNIFICANT UPGRADE in interior quality and overall features inlcuded in the final purchase price!
I am now reluctant to just base a purchase decision on "Legendary Toyota Reliability" when so many personal comfort and off-roading helper functions are now included in the latest mid-size and full-size trucks from OTHER manufacturers. Even the latest Nissan Frontier Pro-4x give the Taco a good run for the money and is CHEAPER monthly-payment-wise when you get the dealer in-house financing options, even if it has a longer financing term for the Nissan! That extra $100 to $200 you save per month buys a heck of a lot of gas and camp food/camp gear for your weekend off-road jaunts to the backcountry!
It will be interesting to see the updates to the Taco when the full refresh comes out next year!
The Ford Maverick is a City/Suburban tradesperson truck that just happens to have some ability off-road. It sure does have good fuel consumption numbers which REALLY SAVES you cash and is hard to beat price-wise. I would say that for 50% of all truck buyers, the Maverick is pretty much all that you really need for hauling you camp/work gear and even towing small trailers and weekend toys! I don't see any real competitor to the Maverick since the Santa Cruz is $10,000 USD more in price! The Subaru Outback is the closest vehicle I could find that has SOME reasonable cargo room and off-road ability at that price point! The Maverick is the vehicle Mom's and Dad's of high schoolers buy for their own family use for 2 to 4 years before handing off the Maverick to their now-off-to-college kids and then getting a loaded-up F150 Lariat or Platinum!
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Imagine buying a truck because you need to do truck stuff yet placing “personal comfort” above how long the truck you buy will actually do the truck stuff you need it to do before needing warranty repair work because it now has the planned obsolescence of a smartphone.
The market sucks. Pretty much all new trucks suck. People place comfort and tech above capability and utility. This is why the Hilux left the US market. Trucks here have completely lost their identities. They are minivans for dads battling for market share with conveniences, comfort, and tech features. The only thing that actually goes in the bed is your kids’ sports gear or maybe a bag or two of mulch from Home Depot.
Our ancestors hunted wooly mammoths. And here we are, generations later, choosing a utilitarian tool like a truck based on how big the damn useless iPad in the dash is and how comfortable the seat is. Lol.
@@whackityschmackitydo The F150/F350/F450 Platinum/Limited and GMC Sierra Denali 1500/3500 are now the REPLACEMENT VEHCILES for aging Boomers and Gen-X'ers who INSTEAD OF GETTING BMW's 3/5/7-series or Mercerdes S-classes are now getting Luxo-Barge trucks with every option under the sun!
The bed is used mere to carry the e-Bike to the local lakeside trail or to tow the Keystone Montana luxury 5th Wheel camp trailer to the local Kelowna lake-side or Banff National Park parking lot filled with the SAME-AS-THEM aging and aching-in-knees-and-shoulders Boomer/Gen-X'er who will ALL be sitting drunkenly in their inflatable couch drinking pina coladas for the entire week before they pack up again and go back to their cramped condo in the big metro/urban city aka Toronto or Vancouver!
These LUXO-BARGE trucks and campers are their portable big-city condos they can take with them because the LAST time they ever pitched a tent and slept on the ground in a sleeping bag was as teenagers or toddlers in 1973! The Luxo-Barge truck/camper IS THEIR VERSION of "Roughing It" !!!
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@@whackityschmackitydo totally correct.
I got my tacoma off road in 2020. Perfect blend of tech and truck It’s still simple inside and won’t become antiquated or overly tech or touch screen etc.
It’s good for being a truck. No sunroof etc
Andre, can we see you compare all the “off road compact suv’s? Outback, cherokee trailhawk, bronco sport, Pilot, etc.
Nice video! May I suggest moving the end card to the right side so that viewers can see the bumper clearance in the final shot?
I love this off-road system on the Ford !!! I can’t stand all the noise from the Toyota
Looks like the Maverick needs to work on approach / departure angles, but not bad overall.
But why didn't you show the window stickers or mention price? There's about a $15k difference in price which is massive.
They did a whole separate video on that last week.
Awesome video!
Andre, you guys need to start measuring ground clearance on the trucks! The number they give you is probably under the diff for the Toyota, which doesn't really matter when off-roading since you can place your rear tires to clear rocks and obstacles with the diff. It's obvious looking at these two trucks that the Tacoma has way more clearance under the frame than the Maverick. It would be very useful for your viewers if you measured the frame clearance yourselves, even the lowest point between the axles if a fuel tank or transfer case hangs down below the frame rails.
That Maverick does look nice I won't lie! my wife has one XL hybrid gets really good mileage easy to change the 🛢️ it's a pretty decent truck but that 🌮 is on another level when it comes to off-roading and reliability maybe compare the next generation Tacoma to a Maverick because they'll both be turboed but this V6 will kick the shit out of that EcoBoost I bet
The Ford Rangers eco boost is better then the played out taco in every way!
@@joshuaallswang8016 except reliability
@@vladm5992 not really. Both have similar systems, due to mpg and efficiency requirements the turbos will blow eventually.
Excited to see how the Ranger Raptor compares to the Pro
WOULD THRASH IT SENSLESS, go watch some AUSSIE VIDS if you don't believe me !!
I love the maverick. I was behind one yesterday and couldn’t help but notice how low the exhaust is under that rear diff…. Offroad would absolutely crush it on a rock
Starting to really like this little truck the more I see and read about it!
All the snow in this country and none in Colorado? 🤷♂️
They’re in the rainshadow of the Rockies
Given the choice between these two, I'd get the Tacoma.
No shit. They're totally different trucks for radically different purposes.
Given the choices I'd get a 2 door Bronco.
Me too but still impressed with the little maverick
Get yourself real off roader like jeep , bronco
@@joecharmleyyea get stranded in the middle of nowhere, that’s a real off roader
i like how ford moved the license plate to the side and tucked the hitch up in the bumper. having the taco hitch hang down like that is a huge potential hangup. my 97 f150 had a hangdown hitch like that and the safety chain mounts were both bent way up from all the rock contact on poorly maintained logging and fire roads
I’m a Maverick owner, and this comparison is a bit of a stretch. My truck does everything I need it to do, but the Tacoma is definitely way more purpose built than the Maverick as far as off road is concerned.
MSRP on each would be helpful also. These two are obviously apples and oranges, if you are going to do difficult trails the Taco is the easy choice. But if you are the occasional light off roader like most people the price difference may be the deciding factor for non-fan boys.
TRD Pro starts about 46k, Mav Lariat Tremor about 36k. 36k can get you a Tacoma TRD OR. There's lots of overlap in pricing. Like you said, apples and oranges. The Mav and Taco both have their place. I like them both.
@@takenpictures You will never find a Tacoma 4 x 4 for 36k new.
@@vertstang123 Plenty of Toyota dealers that aren't charging markups. I've bought 3 new Toyota's in the last year and a half and didn't pay a penny over MSRP. Would love to pick up a Maverick Hybrid, but the wait is just too long.
Don’t forget the maverick gets double the MPG to the Tacoma.
@@mauricebarry8858 And way quicker for accelerating!
The Tremor just needs a lift and a different rear bumper, just an aftermarket one
The Tremor package already comes with a 2 inch lift over base model. Lifting it more than that would defeat the purpose of its intended use. The reality is that the Maverick is a crossover with a bed and meant to be a very light off roader at best. Anyone looking to do any real off-roading would not buy a maverick.
Thank you Andre for listening to me!!
A few years ago I got a call to head down a pipeline ROW in my F150 to look at something. I start coming down and run into a line of traffic coming the other way. No where to turn around and my departure angle didn't let me go in reverse, had the 6 trucks back down the mountain. Departure angles matter lol
It looks like your Maverick could use the 2.5” life from Superlift, and a set of 245/70-17s.
Eibach spring lift would probably be better than blocks. But the factory tires definitely need to be replaced
get the mav raised with bigger tires.
You guys should do a video on spec sheet ground clearance vs. actual. I know my tacoma has less ground clearance (from the rear diff) than Toyota states and I have larger tires.
having just watched an fx4 maverick attack terrain like this, i'm intrigued at the tremor. will update this comment with my reaction.
yup, as i expected. a much better result where the maverick really did show it was capble of a surprising amount for being a modern compact truck.
I’ve taken my FX4 on the Mohave Rd, scrapped a ton and found damage weeks later to some linkages. But would have never know if I wasn’t told of it. Trip ended after a flat but it hung with a Bronco Sasquatch, stock Bronco Big Bend with 33s, and built out Wrangler on 35s and a built out Tacoma along with a stock Ranger 4x4. I can’t wait for my Tremor tho!
It hung with them but sounds like it got beat to hell. Any slightly more difficult trail and youd have to bow out.
@@Jtwizzle the Jeep left the trail with a death wobble so, the trail will do a number on anyone.
@@Silverback_GMT410 Jeeps can get that driving on the highway their whole life. You get my point.
I’d love to see an second gen tundra do this course
It would have no issue at all
I’ve done very similar things my FX4 on the stock scorpions, limited ability but great tire.
Nice that the mav has all weather tires so it might do better on snow or ice than the taco all season tires
This is way tougher than anything id take the mav tremor on. Just trying to get to camping/hiking spots
the ground clearance thing is weird to say the least
The Tacoma's ground clearance seems low because it's measured from the lowest point of the vehicle, which is the bottom of the center of the rear axel. You can raise the body all you want but unless you run taller tires the ground clearance for that truck will not change.
Can't wait to see you test the maverick tremor vs your ranger fx4
It's crazy that the smallest truck has more space in the back seats, than the larger truck.
I am not a midsize truck person by any means and will take super duty's all day long, but between these 2 I would take the Tacoma every single time, it is way more capable and way better looking.
Who heard him say “Andre spit” instead of “Andre’s pit”.
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The Tacoma's ground clearance is probably measured at the rear diff. Without a pumpkin, the maverick may be measured at the lowest point on it's body.
The Maverick HAS a pumpkin, but it's not as beefy as the Tacos. And because it's an independent suspension, it can be higher up than the control arms.
You should do a 10k tow test between the Ram 2500 and Maverik. Cuz ya know kinda the same test.
Amazing that a much lower unibody maverick can nearly be as good as a much higher body on frame taco.
So a dressed up car is not far behind a taco, Interesting
Man, as much as I would love to daily a traditional 4x4, the Tremor ticks all the boxes for me. The want is very very strong.
Is this the same AWD as the bronco sport then? Cause that was pretty good
Pretty embarrassing that the mavericks have higher payload than a taco 😂 my taco I can tell isn’t made to work to hard or tow/haul all that much but a good little overlander. I’d take a maverick for fuel mileage but I’d pick a ranger or taco for my camping trips and off-roading.
@@JetSkiSuper7 still embarrassing, a Tacoma just isn’t made for that as I stated and own one.
@@freedomisntfree_44apples and oranges
I will take the Toyota all day
You've got to be realistic with its application and I think you'll be satisfied. Even most off-road vehicles like SxS's need aftermarket work for true offloading.
Maverick is amazing. It will do 90% of what that TRD will do and it's way cheaper.
There is really no comparison. The Maverik's articulation is nil while the Taco is decent. The Maverik's 'Tremor' upgrades are more appearance-oriented and the basic truck itself is not up to the Taco's . . . the ground clearance for Dirty Deeds obviously was not going to be there after watching the Taco go through with little issue.
The maverick Tremor package is like a subaru outback with a small bed.
It wasn't a versus competition of which is better, it was a test to see if a small car-based truck could keep up.
It might be better if you actually watched the video, or knew anything about the Tremor package before commenting. It's far from appearance oriented.
@@jsteele63 Ha Ha . . .hilarious! Bye, bye, Troll!
@@OldThomMerton what an incredibly intelligent reply! Am I troll because I point out facts. Please dispute what I said.
For what it is, the maverick is great. I wish ford would have went a little more aggressive with the tremor package tho. Maybe there will be a maverick raptor some day?! Put the 2.3 eco in it. 32-33" tires and proper skidplates and such!
The Maverick is more truck than most people need. Heck, even those who think it is not enough are likely wrong unless they're towing or doing difficult terrain and lets face it, not many are going to spend that kind of money and actually take a new Tacoma or another new truck into hardcore off roading. Come to think of it, I have need even seen a newer muddy Jeep in some time.
as we dont have it here, but looking at it, i would have said the Tacoma would be like our hilux (but wider, i believe) which is in turn a competitor for the Ranger, not the Maverick (which we also dont get here in any form)
That Ford Maverick is embarrassing
I'm no Toyota guy but at 0:57 the Toyota beats the Maverick in looks already.
I like the Maverick better.
For European standards, both trucks are huge. There’s a Raptor nearby where I live, and the guy almost never drives it because it’s too big to fit most of our roads and trails!
The Ford does a very good job against that Toyota monster, a very capable vehicle indeed for light off-roading. To take it to harder trails, some bodywork must be made - even strong plastic will break!
I'm glad I watched this, I wouldn't hesitate to approach that pit in my 07 ranger, but watching the maverick makes me nervous.
This is a very weird comparison, since it's not apples-to-apples. Not at all paying attention to how it compares to the Tacoma. But it's nice seeing more Maverick Tremor videos. Can't wait for mine.
The tacoma was disappointing, I thought it would crush the maverick but I would say the maverick could have done it all if it had slightly more clearance all around. The maverick seemed to struggle less for traction.
Disappointing? Haha. None of this was even hard. How would it crush it on such an easy trail?
We must have watched two different videos. The Tacoma was effortless, the Maverick struggled on almost every obstacle.
Overall the Toyota traction control system is poor. Yes, if you lock the rear axel and use the true 4L it's amazing off road but on that trail the Toyota traction control was shown to be far inferior. The Maverick would immediately switch power to other wheels and do it relatively quietly while the Tacoma sounded horrible and, more importantly, took longer to figure out.
Yes, the Tacoma can go places the Maverick can't because they are two different vehicles but overall the Tacoma's traction control system was far inferior.
@@ryansheard8092 You said it yourself, you can engage 4L and locker when needed. Something the Maverick cant do.
@@Jtwizzle I think the point is that 95%+ of the time engaging the locker and using 4L isn't nor should it be needed. The trucks traction control should immediately take over. Toyota's system isn't that great.
Not surprised the Maverick did well without a low-range transfer case. A truck (or trucklet) with 8+ speeds in its transmission and a torque converter shouldn't need a low-range. If it had a 5.5-6' bed, I'd probably switch to a Maverick, throw in the 2.3L or 2.0L + Hybrid and I'd switch in a heartbeat. I've never used the low-range in my Ranger. On my work F-550 I used it once to help with speed control down a steep hill.
isnt the L button low range?
@@ghostshadownova3266 No, it just holds a lower gear in the transmission. With 8+ gears to work with and AWD it will serve the same purpose as an old school truck with a 3-4 speed transmission and a dual range transfer case.
Not the biggest fan of Maverick, but its growing on me a bit... especially parking my f-150 living in New Jersey !
The Maverick sounds like it has a lawn mower engine.
Yeah maybe but way more powerful than the Taco engine lol
@@carllovullo6602 TIL 30 less HP is way more powerful.
I wouldn’t say Toyota holds the standard for off-road trucks. That would have to be a Jeep Gladiator or a Chevy ZR2. (No I don’t own those)
Nope. Gladiator has trash breakover angle. ZR2 is a modern Chevy and has modern Chevy problems.
@@HAHA.GoodMeme When you can easily fit 37, or even 39 inch tires, the breakover angle ceases to be that big of a deal. A lot of situations that long Gladiator wheelbase actually helps. Comparing a Tacoma to a Gladiator Rubicon is pretty much like comparing the Maverick to the Tacoma.
@@HAHA.GoodMeme Well on that same note, the modern Toyotas are riddled with mechanical issues as well and still the gutless engine that fights the transmission.
Ford should have looked into improving the rear bumper somehow, just to improve the departure by a few degrees more, and that poor exhaust, definitely needs routed a little better
In TFL’s next comparison they put a Unimog U 5000 up against a Lil’ Tykes Cozy Coupe in an off-road course.
Tomorrow we are going to test a Corolla vs. a ZO6 Corvette to see which one is faster on a racetrack.
The thing is I think The Corolla is not built for speed and Toyota knows that, but Ford is trying to say the Maverick is great off-road and Andre is disproving that by using another midsize truck off road
The Ford Tremor is basically a car shaped like a truck. Snowy malls and gravel service roads are about it for that Ford. I'm a more extreme off roading guy. Ill stick with my Jeep Gladiator on 37s with a 4.5 inch lift.
Prolly haul more though 😂that’s what’s crazy about the maverick is payload
Are you serious?? Jeez did you not listen to Andre that they are not direct competitiors? Clear off and go to a Jeep site it was an entertaining video and well put together. Bah humbug!
@@saddist1Gtown Hey easily triggered person! My comment is basically saying that the Ford Tremor isn't for me. Also don't stress what RUclips sites I watch! I didn't ask to live rent free inside your empty head! 😉😂😂😂
@@jordanfields3402 Do you really beleieve what you just wrote mate? Jeez, what are you on about witth idiotic "triggered"? That alone tells me your mentality, and about empty head are you projecting mate? Mate the video was a good video just to highlight the strengths of both cars in comparison and I think andre did a great job showing the Tremor's gapabilties. Lightweight not everyone could afford the Gladiator (if you have one) but it doesn't mean all the videos should be about muscle and brawn after all we are not here to talk about your brain, it's a car show after all...