What If Rhaenys Wins Rooks Rest? (House Of The Dragon)

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  • Опубликовано: 12 окт 2024
  • Episode 4 of House Of The Dragon Season 2 was the pinnacle of the season with a pretty upsetting outcome for the Queen Who Never Was. But what if things played out differently?
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  • @DionysusJPower
    @DionysusJPower 3 дня назад +49

    Let's revisit if Rhaenyra went to Rooks Rest instead of Rhaenys. This time, for whatever reason, Aemond is not involved. Its Rhaenyra vs Aegon, Syrax vs Sunfyre alone

    • @bharatvarshaball4000
      @bharatvarshaball4000 3 дня назад +9

      Sunfyre better

    • @SharperTip
      @SharperTip 3 дня назад +15

      ​@bharatvarshaball4000 I can't see the greens winning this one, seeing as their champion is drunk and impulsive

    • @ShiniesoftheGanders
      @ShiniesoftheGanders 3 дня назад

      Syrax has a slight size advantage however small it may be, but both dragons are inexperienced combatants. Honestly could go to whoever

    • @Mcherri
      @Mcherri 3 дня назад +7

      @@ShiniesoftheGandersthe advantage rhaenyra has is that she is a better and experienced dragon rider and syrax listens to her and defends her fiercely like sunfyre. Rhaenyra has been dragon riding longer than aegon and was the youngest to ever claim a dragon at 7.

    • @ShiniesoftheGanders
      @ShiniesoftheGanders 3 дня назад

      I don't think seniority would really count, both dragons are equally fierce and defensive of their riders. Both also seem to be the same overall build so it's a question of "Who does more damage to the other?"

  • @benjamingarrett9960
    @benjamingarrett9960 3 дня назад +16

    Im pretty sure Vhagar would've been more tired than Maelys, given her size and Maelys being able to out fly her.

  • @erinb4237
    @erinb4237 3 дня назад +20

    Meleys is fast enough to outrun Vhagar. I think Rhaenys can escape to Dragonstone or Harrenhal, where she'd have backup.

  • @lordfubar2598
    @lordfubar2598 3 дня назад +32

    Love your videos, keep them coming!
    - What if instead of Syrax, Rhaenyra bonded with Vermithor? What if this happens right after she is named as the heir?
    - What if Viserys was smart and abdicated the throne to Rhaenyra when he started to get too sick to rule? Or at least name her regent to rule in his stead until he dies? Giving her time to strengthen her position while he is still alive.

    • @alexander.tahtadjian
      @alexander.tahtadjian 3 дня назад +3

      I think I’d love to see the “What If Rhaenyra bonded with Vermithor after being named heir” happen because it sounds interesting to see the realms delight bond with the bronze fury. I feel like they would make an incredible duo.

    • @axeldiaz404
      @axeldiaz404 2 дня назад

      ​@@alexander.tahtadjian The scene where she summoned vermithor Infront of the bastards and she stood Infront of him looked so badass and made me wish he was her dragon

  • @TaeSunWoo
    @TaeSunWoo 3 дня назад +10

    Little 4 year old Jaehaera: “time to pull a great x4 aunt Aerea with Balerion and go claim Vhagar.”

    • @axeldiaz404
      @axeldiaz404 2 дня назад +2

      Time to pull a leana and go claim a granny vhagar

    • @harrysmith7342
      @harrysmith7342 2 дня назад

      As cool as that would be she already has a dragon, but little baby Viserys on the other hand...

    • @axeldiaz404
      @axeldiaz404 2 дня назад

      @@harrysmith7342 damn lil viserys would look awesome on vhagar

  • @oliverkins1532
    @oliverkins1532 3 дня назад +10

    you’re cooked if you think Rhaenys & Meleys didn’t already account for the mass difference and that is why they Specifically engaged Vhagar in a close range spiral. Rhae locks in to the saddle then Meleys flips upside down n grabs V’s foot when they first engage and holds them together until they are too low for Vhagar to avoid the ground, then Meleys CHOOSES to release the hold and leaves the engagement practically unscathed. Dragon fighting is messy but you can clearly see Rhaenys’ tactics at play, or did u think they added those scenes just for fun? It’s called visual storytelling bruh

  • @yassenzain1994
    @yassenzain1994 3 дня назад +10

    what if the dragons lived like after the fall of the capital at the hands of the peasants some of the dragon guards were able to save the dragon Jaehrys and Jaheera and Dreamfire was able to release her chains and she escaped

  • @johanabeldiazhernandez4194
    @johanabeldiazhernandez4194 3 дня назад +7

    I’m not so sure Rhaenyra would let Daeron live actually, in the finale she’s pretty set on ending the opposition (took her an insanely long time to get there but whatever) so like I could definitely see her either reaching the conclusion that Daeron needs to die by herself or her council being able to convince of that

    • @94mp99
      @94mp99 3 дня назад +1

      In the finale, she means specifically on Aegon, since he's the one who usurped her throne.
      As for Daeron, I don't think Rhaenyra would see him as a threat, since he's around Jacaerys age and Tessarion is even a smaller dragon than Jace's Vermax.
      And once Rhaenyra learns about Daeron's character, I doubt she would consider killing him,
      she might send him away to Essos or make a marriage pact between him and, maybe, Rhaena,
      assuring that the only male bloodline of the Greens has left has very low chance to rebel against her.

    • @fourth-dimensionalbeing9737
      @fourth-dimensionalbeing9737 2 дня назад +2

      I don't know about that. The writers has made her character inconsistent; one moment she's resolute, another she's hesitant.

    • @axeldiaz404
      @axeldiaz404 2 дня назад

      ​@@94mp99he is a male and a possible contestant to her throne, no male son of viserys would be safe as the lords would choose a male over her

  • @christopherdavis3424
    @christopherdavis3424 3 дня назад +10

    Another great What If my dude!! Here’s some possible ideas for you to consider:
    -What if Viserys refuses to remarry after Aemma and Baelon died?
    -What if Rhaenyra and Baelon were twins (and Baelon survived)?
    Also…WHEN ARE WE GETTING WHAT IF DAEMON HAD A SON PART 3?!?!
    Edit: just thought of two more What If ideas:
    -What If Viserys died before having kids with Alicent? Or, alternatively, What if Viserys died before marrying naming Rhaenyra heir?
    -What if Daemon married Alicent? Or, alternatively, What if Daemon and Alicent had a bastard child together? (I’m in the middle of reading Fire and Blood so I don’t know this first hand, but I have heard that in the book it is implied the reason Otto doesn’t like Daemon is because there is a rumor Daemon took Alicent’s “maiden head” so…what if that rumor was true and she got pregnant?)

    • @rubenfigueiredo4229
      @rubenfigueiredo4229 2 дня назад

      i wanna see the second what if it would change a lot in the series

  • @matheusdemello2323
    @matheusdemello2323 3 дня назад +14

    What if Rhaenyra took Gwayne Hightower as a Lover instead of Harwin Strong?
    What if Lucerys lost his eye *instead* of Aemond?
    What if both Lucerys & Aemond died in episode 10?
    What if Aemma Arryn last child, Baelon was born a girl that married Aegon-II?
    What if Viserys had Aegon II married Rhaenyra *After* Laenor’s death?
    What if Rhaenyra was like Jaehaerys The Conciliator?
    What if Rhaenyra Targaryen married Borros Baratheon?
    What if Viserys-I made Rhaenyra Hand Of The King after Otto’s dismissed/Lyonel’s death?
    What if Viserys-I made Rhaenys Hand Of The King after Otto’s dismissed/Lyonel’s death?
    What if Viserys-I made Daemon Hand Of The King after Otto’s dismissed/Lyonel’s death?
    What if Rhaenyra married Otto after Alicent married Viserys?

    • @rubenfigueiredo4229
      @rubenfigueiredo4229 2 дня назад +1

      talking about if Viserys had Aegon married Rhaenyra After Laenor’s death, it may not have a war if they had a child eventually, and the last what if would be wild

  • @alejandronunez5110
    @alejandronunez5110 3 дня назад +8

    What if Theon took the black like Maester Luwin suggested him.

  • @ShiniesoftheGanders
    @ShiniesoftheGanders 3 дня назад +5

    I'd like to see a what if scenario of Balerion still being alive right up until the end of Viserys' reign, dying at the same time as his rider

  • @greenknightofwar7024
    @greenknightofwar7024 3 дня назад +4

    A Pyrrhic victory it would be indeed, but a decisive one. She killed the symbol of power(Aegon) and the greatest threat(Aemond).

  • @ThatDragonGuy
    @ThatDragonGuy 3 дня назад +4

    What If Myrcella was born first? What if Cersei died in Childbirth?

    • @bakthihapuarachchi3447
      @bakthihapuarachchi3447 3 дня назад +1

      For the first scenario, nothing at all happens. Since women are still forbidden from inheriting, even if Myrcella would be the firstborn, Joffrey would still become the king

  • @MeleysRQ
    @MeleysRQ 23 часа назад

    Rhaenys is the 5th Targaryen with most experience riding a dragon, just behind Aegon the Conqueror.

  • @matheusdemello2323
    @matheusdemello2323 3 дня назад +6

    *Wow*
    This was shorter than expected, then again, it’s pretty much a Black victory with the death of Aemond & Rhaenys, with Aegon-II being critically injured.
    Much better then the *Black Reign* fic at AO3, always felt that fic was very bias.
    As for this what if, it’s hard to say what else happens as it seems simple to understand, with the troubles of Daemon wanting the Iron Throne, but his sisters would probably wouldn’t join them as Baela is marrying Jace, and Raena is wouldn’t attack her sister.
    There’s a possibility of a Green resurgent if Aegon-II survives like in canon, and his brother Daeron living and having children with Dragons.
    An ok what if, not bad, just mostly simple.

  • @stephenscott6111
    @stephenscott6111 3 дня назад +5

    Lmaooo who was actually trying to say that Meleys threw Vhagar to the ground when they were fighting💀💀💀

    • @hristiyan5695
      @hristiyan5695 3 дня назад +5

      You can cleary see that Rhaenys planned the downward spiral. She put her seat belt on, flew beneath Vhagar because she then can attack the open belly and we already saw that Meleys uses her claws quite often, when she ripped Sunfyres chest open. She then used Vhagars weight and lack of agility against herself and held onto her up to the point where Vhagar couldnt continue flying and Meleys got away pretty much unscaved. Meleys wasnt actively THROWING Vhagar to the ground but the entire stunt was planned by Rhaenys.

    • @Jacaerys1
      @Jacaerys1 2 дня назад +2

      It was fairly obvious that’s what happened and that’s how Eagles fights, which was the inspiration.

    • @hristiyan5695
      @hristiyan5695 2 дня назад

      @@Jacaerys1 Exactly

  • @katielouise4949
    @katielouise4949 3 дня назад +1

    In this scenario, with Lucerys gone, Rhaena not could be married to Daeron to join the family further than just Aegon III and Jahaera

  • @kristenstoumann8345
    @kristenstoumann8345 3 часа назад

    I would have thought Vhagar had reached the age where she had to be cautious during take off as well a landings, so I would think Vhagar had had it last flight

  • @Meme-jo7uj
    @Meme-jo7uj 3 дня назад +2

    I think you are being gracious saying Alicent would care if anything happened to her children.

  • @Nimzie458202
    @Nimzie458202 3 дня назад +1

    I think “What if Rhaena claimed Vhagar?” would be pretty interesting 14:05

  • @phil.moloney2980
    @phil.moloney2980 3 дня назад +1

    Three what ifs what you see the next part of.
    1: part 3 of what if with Meagor the bronze dragon.
    2: part 2 of what if with Deamon kept his crown.
    3: part 2 of what if with Meakor Waters, also i think he will claim the Cannibal.
    And finally this is a what if i would love to see what if Viserys and Daemon brother Aegon survived child birth and lived how would the story changed if there were three brothers instead of two, would Aegon be like Viserys, or Deamon or would he bring balance between them.

  • @aquaglyphics
    @aquaglyphics 3 дня назад

    love your videos sm!! maybe not the most interesting idea, but I was wondering what about the story might have changed if Margaery had convinced the High Sparrow to leave the sept before Cersei could blow it up (in the show of course lol)

  • @asdfghjkl.196
    @asdfghjkl.196 3 дня назад

    She sure thought about daemon’s offer when she was falling to her death

  • @N3wman2992
    @N3wman2992 3 дня назад +1

    The greens probably would of become something similar to the blackfyres.

    • @Jacaerys1
      @Jacaerys1 2 дня назад

      Yes, but they would lack dragons at this point.

  • @laurenstone7785
    @laurenstone7785 2 дня назад +1

    What if Sansa married Loris (Willis in the books)

  • @StiggusRattus
    @StiggusRattus 3 дня назад

    Would love to see a what if where Daemon claimed Meleys and Rhaenys claimed Caraxes or What if Rhaenyra claimed Vermithor and models herself to be like king Jaehaerys

  • @Tessarion7
    @Tessarion7 3 дня назад

    To be fair I don't think Rhaenyra would get to King's Landing before Daemon. She was very indecisive whole season and wanted to avoid bloodshed in the capital (but by the end was ok with bloodshed in Oldtown and Lannisport for some reason). Daemon would instantly rush to the capital.
    Also, I don't think Rhaena would be able to claim Vhagar. The dragon chooses her rider depending on a character and Vhagar is quite a cruel dragon. Granted, we didn't really see Rhaena acting like a good person, or at least I don't remember a scene like that, but she just doesn't appear to be someone like Visenya, Aemond, Baelon or Laena.
    Great video btw. Shame Tessarion is so small in the show. In the books she was the same size as Seasmoke, which would leave the black with Caraxes as the only bigger dragon than her, but in the show she wouldn't be a problem. Probably the only watfor the Greens to still have any chance in this scenario, would be to get dragonseeds to claim the dragons, like Rhaenyra and Jace did in canon. Since Daeron is smart, he could came to that conclusion but the only dragons outside of Dragon stone are Vhagar and Sheepstealer. Alternatively they could take Dragonstone after everyone leavs for King's Landing, take dragonseeds with them and try to claim any dragon there (we saw that Silverwing was willing to accept anyone xd ) Hugh would come with them anyway, because he didn't care who offers the dragon. Tessarion, Vermithor and Silverwing would be enought to be a threat.

  • @adamknight5753
    @adamknight5753 3 дня назад

    Let’s throw it back, what if Torren Stark didnt kneel?

  • @roshanethomas9430
    @roshanethomas9430 7 часов назад

    The best chance meleys had was when vhager was on the ground she should have attacked same time

  • @corentinrichard9864
    @corentinrichard9864 3 дня назад

    Her blood would be boiling, even by dragons standards

  • @bendaly6260
    @bendaly6260 2 дня назад

    Kind of feel like because Meleys is the faster dragon she could have just ran after taking out Aemond, after all Meleys has out positioned Vhagar and is now behind her facing the open sea, if Rhaenys is smart she should just get Meleys to run back to dragonstone, even with Vhagar blood lusted I’m not sure she would follow all the way back and even if she did she’d be running straight into the blacks other dragons and their defenses

  • @dragondotell701
    @dragondotell701 3 дня назад

    What if Renly didn't rebel against Stannis? That would be interesting!

  • @jordanlane870
    @jordanlane870 3 дня назад

    What if daemon and caraxes lived

  • @bigduelssevens2309
    @bigduelssevens2309 3 дня назад

    What if Helaena went with Aemond to Harranhal to fight Daemon.

  • @kleailia6332
    @kleailia6332 День назад

    What if Rhaenyra bonded with Cannibal ( the biggest wild dragon)?

  • @Lazarou101
    @Lazarou101 3 дня назад

    9:51 Oh no, the show is annoyingly aware of how easy it is to smuggle people in & out of King's Landing apparently

  • @malikwitherspoon
    @malikwitherspoon 3 дня назад

    What if aemond was born first

  • @danielkopcha2011
    @danielkopcha2011 3 дня назад

    Would Daeron be regent then what’s the line of succession Daeron or Aegon’s kids behind Aegon???

  • @justcallmeD90
    @justcallmeD90 3 дня назад

    To keep Daeron close marry him to Rhaena since Baela and Jace will be wed that way he’s on team black
    Great video love your what if series

  • @سناءعبدوي-ق3و
    @سناءعبدوي-ق3و 3 дня назад

    i don't think daemon will try to take the throne to himself because in book he was love rhaenyra and he tried so hard to win the war for her but i think this AU will still have problems with the greens but little bit but daemon yeah probably will be biggest problem will rhaenyra have if rhaenys win in battle against aemond and vhagar but i want rhaenys to live and return with victory i think greens will try to use the problem between rhaenyra and daemon to take throne again so yeah the war still happens but in different way

  • @DarkApostleNoek
    @DarkApostleNoek 3 дня назад

    Doomed to die, tragic. Still the win not bringing the Blacks together but with the possibility of creating a new civil war is another inevitability is a little tragic.
    WHAT IF....
    Myrcella was to be married off to, Theon or Robin? That one of those were the choices Tyrion gave Pycelle.
    Margery escaped the Wild Fire? That when she first realized something was wrong she got out.

    • @94mp99
      @94mp99 3 дня назад +1

      For Margaery, I think there are three possible ways
      1. Try to get to reach Tommen and control him to punish Cersei.
      2. Sneak out of King's Landing and go back to Highgarden, rejoin Olenna, and together travel to Dorne,
      where they have a conversation with the Sand Snake and then join Daenerys.
      3. Still sneak out of King's Landing, but instead of going to Highgarden, she goes straight to the North and reunite with Sansa.
      Because if Cersei find out that Margaery can escape the Sept, she will definitely assume that Margaery will go back to her home at Highgarden,
      and then send her soldier to hunt Margaery to the Reach. Now, Margaery already has an establish relationship with Sansa,
      so, I think it is not impossible that somehow Margaery knows that Sansa, along with Jon, successfully retook Winterfell from the Boltons.
      Margaery might see that the North is a safer place to go, and then, she would take the Kingsroad and go all the way to Winterfell,
      declare that House Tyrell and the Reach will support the North in the war-to-come with Cersei.

    • @DarkApostleNoek
      @DarkApostleNoek День назад

      @94mp99 Sorry for late reply, would she know though about Sansa being North? Jon is made/named King same episode sept blew up, and Cersei only found out about Sansa since little finger told her.
      I see her going to Tommen as long as she can get inside the Red keep before the Sept's destruction.
      As for heading to the Reach this seems like the most likely outcome. Get to the closest castle in it, write to her Grandmother on her survival and then meet her in Highgarden. From there 3 outcomes:
      1) As you put she travels with Olenna to Dorne and as long as Margery doesn't return to Highgarden will survive.
      2) Still makes a play for the Iron Throne against her Grandmother's wishes, in which case she will Marry Euron as she won't skip around the proposal like Cersei did. From there anyone's guess.
      3) Doesn't go after the Iron Throne, but doesn't go to Dorne either instead she becomes Queen of an independent Kingdom of the Reach, most likely Marrying Dickon Tarly, with sending letters to Sansa & Jon for an Alliance.

  • @iblortheraiaty7646
    @iblortheraiaty7646 2 дня назад

    Greenfire rebellion

  • @MeleysRQ
    @MeleysRQ 21 час назад

    This situation has to many show stuff and then book stuff mixed up for convenience, cool video anyway but it reminds me of the show itself only taking things to make it more interesting, but this is a youtube video and is interesting.

  • @ryanwilliams9751
    @ryanwilliams9751 3 дня назад +1

    3:32 I dont think Vhagar is just gonna land and take a nap if Aemond was kolled while riding her. Vhagar would still fight on until she died

    • @matheusdemello2323
      @matheusdemello2323 3 дня назад +2

      Watch the rest of the video, that’s what happened after Aemond died.

  • @kenthehobo
    @kenthehobo 3 дня назад

    Roll credits

  • @oliviaroche6067
    @oliviaroche6067 3 дня назад

    Ooooo I’m early thanks for the new what if

  • @singstreetcar5881
    @singstreetcar5881 3 дня назад

    Aergon has 2 sons.
    Alicent has another son in old town

    • @matheusdemello2323
      @matheusdemello2323 3 дня назад +1

      Ummm yes that is fact.
      Alicent has another son in old town and in the book Aegon-II has a second son, Maelor, whose missing/doesn’t exist in the show.
      Your point?

    • @94mp99
      @94mp99 3 дня назад +2

      I do think this is based on House of the Dragon, not Fire & Blood, which in the show, Aegon has only two children: Jaehaerys and Jaehaera.