MUSTANG CORNERS ROSS! | Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood Reaction | Ep 17 "Cold Flame"
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- In a stunning turn of events, Mustang TOASTS Ross in a horrifying act of revenge for Hughes...or so it seems! This episode has us absolutely glued to the edge of our seats, and with so many crazy twists and turns, we can't WAIT to see what happens next!
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Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Episode 17, "Cold Flame"
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If you don't think playing chess is cool watch code geass
17 isn’t on the patreon, did think I’d skip some things, know why haha.
Hey man, by any chance, would you happen to have a chess app on your phone that lets you do multiplayer? And we should be interested in whoping me in a round of chess 🤣
@@kevinmoore4355 Curious Have you ever played 4d chess with time travel and multiverses?
The "lizards" on Mustang's gloves are salamanders, a creature that is classically associated with fire.
No, Roy is sponsored by Geico.
@@jairgutierrez9543 🤣🤣🤣🤣
lol Good one! My complements.@@jairgutierrez9543
Especially in real-world alchemic traditions.
Charmander
I love how there are just 2 types of people;
The “omg Mustang just killed her, that’s unforgivable”
And the “nope, Roy wouldn’t, he’s smart, it’s a plan.”
Proud to be the latter
Watching them struggle to understand what the heck happened in this episode was so much fun.
You guys are gonna be BLOWN AWAY when you figure it out.
technically they are like 10 episodes ahead so they already know.
To be fair, who wasn't blown away the first time watching. Armstrong's reaction... And I've said to much.
ffs...
@Dominic Kolb i wasnt, cuz it was use an obvious ploy since before envy also said "how about we make anothe play" and roy isnt that stupid.
The fact of the matter is, usually when characters go on revenge sprees we forgive them. But the idea that they could be wrong suddenly reveals the situation as dangerous vigilantism
yeah, though that is why revenge fantasy stories usually try to go out of their way to ensure the targets of vengeance have their actions be very clearly evil (sometimes to comical levels) to help justify it.
While all along Scar has been killing the _right_ people (except for the Elrics) for revenge and is portraied as a villan... 😶🌫
@@AnarchHive "right" is kinda iffy, we only see some of his kills and they range from veterans who were largely no better or worse than Mustang himself to those like Ed who just happened to be a state alchemist but didn't even participate in the war, hard to say he isn't a villain early on in the story.
@@camil3545 Plus all the MPs he kills in the process.
@@camil3545 Honestly, killing state alchemists in general makes way more sense than just killing the people in Ishval. Revenge is pointless, but depriving a violent nation of their horrifically devastating weaponry is damn near a public service.
You gotta remember, _Ed_ is the one who has the wrong idea of what a state alchemist is. Everyone else knows that it means you are a living WMD in the states control, and acts accordingly.
Mustang can't comeback from this
He killed innocent girl
The Ishvallans: excuse me? He killed us
And you can't just steal Mustang's gloves, and instantly use fire alchemy
They'll learn what Mustang went through to get his fire alchemy in a future episode
If that was possible Im pretty sure every single soldier of the army would have those gloves and they would have conquered the whole world a long time ago
@@DudemitnemHut My guess is the world would actually be a burning wasteland.
Good point. One of the most understated things of this show is the need for a mental understanding of what you're attempting to undertake. If an Alchemist could set up the situation, draw the circle, and have any person just put their hands on it, then the entire world would be Chaos. Alchemy can only be performed by people with the ability, which I think is mental ability (having a gate to 'truth'), and the knowledge of what they're doing with the ingredients they've gathered.
This would would be a nightmare if you could just print up gloves with Mustangs circle on it and spread them around.
@@jroldo8353 Being an Alchemist is essentially being a triple Chemistry major. You need to know what molecules you're manipulating and how you want them to be modified.
Just to do what Roy does you need to know how Oxygen is built and what the gas you want to change it into looks like.
The Letts are not the first reactors I've seen struggle to understand the concept of that it's not as easy as having a circle and putting your hands on it. Doubly for Ed and Izumi who does it by clapping, they're performing very complex mathematical equations in their heads just creating a stone wall. Much less something like changing Greed's carbon layer skin into just carbon while trying not to be torn apart.
i laughed so hard at "its not Roy, its not Roy". that's their first comfort "ITS ENVY SFSFGZFF"
I'm loving these reactions lmao.
I always find it interesting to see what stage of grief people get stuck on in this episode. For these two it's denial, lol.
@@ryanakers1372 ^ loool
Note that Roy is known as a "war hero". You can guess he's used to burning bodies pretty badly :(
So in this show Roy is on a redemption journey. He's already committed great sins. He's not a "bad guy" but he made some very very bad decisions for his country. During the show he's already experienced his downfall and has been expelled from others good graces, but he's trying his best to redeem himself. But you best believe he has killed many many people. Maybe not in the street like Maria, but he has
Or just let people watch a show lol
They spell all of that out for you
Gotta give props to Ling for getting out of tricky situations using his brain. He not only managed to get out of prison with minimal effort but also got the immortality he was looking for in Barry.
Why did Barry let him out again?
@@anonymoususer775 When Ling said he is from Xing Barry realized that it would be a great place to hide Ross.
@@Marta-uv4id ah so that's why... I never caught that, thx
@@anonymoususer775 No problem.
@@anonymoususer775 I think his logic was more like "illegal immigrant from the other side of the world, no one will miss him if if he gets cut up."
When it comes to Envy, don't psych yourselves out too much. When it's important, the show will give you hints as to who Envy's impersonating.
The gloves don't just give you fire powers, you still have to know flame alcehmy. It'd be like Al or someone drawing a transmutation circle for you and then saying "okay now use it" if you don't know how to use alchemy on that substance it's useless
“He can’t come back from this” why not? Complex characters are interesting. Besides, he’s also the Hero of an unjust war
Yea, he can't come back from killing an innocent officer but he can come back from killing thousands in a racial genocide ?
There was also the very real possibility that he never comes back from this in the eyes of the other characters, not the audience. Ed al and Armstrong would probably never forgive him and certainly would lose respect for him.
@@the_crypter I don’t think the events of the war have really been explained in detail to them yet. I hope they watch the OVA
Yeah but we don't get to see what Mustang did in Ishval at least not in this version of the anime.
@@DaDunge yes, we do
26:00 Kenny figuring out Mustangs code is amazing here. It's never outright said in the show, and I've never seen anyone else figure it out without comment help, even I didn't discover it until I read it in RUclips Comments.
It's been mentioned in comments, plus he knows someone who's a fan of the series who gives them some of the extra background info that's not directly in the show.
Though it is a nice catch from him to realize his apparent womanizing on the phone is code because of his alchemy encryption.
Yeah, in one of the videos prior to this he mentions he learned what Ed's and Mustang's code was from either a comment or his friend/editor, I forget which.
Know Its getting to it. The reason I was so eager to you to see this show is because both of you have huge brains and this series capitalazes on that. Loving this, waiting of the next episodes because OMG this series thickens a lot so be ready for it
Roy has a supreme unfair advantage when committing crime. Just instantly torches all evidence then just says "that's how I roll".
This was the first episode of this show that made me alter my plans to go to bed and stay up to watch the next episode. My husband and I both were in shock and didn’t want to try to go to sleep angry lol.
We had already seen the original FMA and were like, “So what? Are we supposed to hate Mustang in this version?”
Just a FYI: homunculi can’t use alchemy, and even if they could, only Roy knows flame alchemy as far as anyone is aware. It’s not as if picking up his gloves is all one would need to perform it.
18:36 I mean their leader is titled the Führer, which is quite literally the title Hitler had, so yeah
Envy can't copy people's abilities... and having roys gloves wouldn't be enough to do his flame alchemy. Alchemy is not like magic where if you get a magic wand you can do spells. The first step of alchemy is understanding, which is very complicated... and understanding a specific type of alchemy doesn't mean you understand all alchemy.
And the homonculi can't ever do alchemy, they don't have a gate.
Ok so I wanna clear up something about alchemy - just because someone has Mustang's transmutation circle (on his gloves) doesn't mean they can replicate his powers.
An alchemist needs a thorough and scientific understanding of what he's doing to be able to do it. Even a talented alchemist like Ed couldn't take Mustang's gloves and do flame alchemy without specifically studying how that works. So someone like Envy, who so far we've never seen use alchemy, has no chance.
It's an important note because if all you need was the diagrams then there'd be no reason not to mass produce Mustang's gloves for the military.
All alchemists can turn one thing into another, a basic transmutation, but particularly skilled alchemists often have a speciality of some kind, like the ice guy from episode 1.
The flame gloves alone do nothing but create a spark. Mustang is a powerful alchemist because he has the knowledge of flame alchemy to transmute that spark into mighty flames. Ed and Al despite being geniuses could not use Roy's gloves for more than a spark.
Envy disguising herself as Mustang and doing a high publicity stunt like killing the escaped suspect of a murder case would lead to the real Mustang to call bullshit, wasn't him. If that happens, Roy and his team, the Elrics and Armstrong _know_ that they are facing a shapeshifting enemy - that is not in the interest of the homunculi.
I would like to point out that statistically speaking even in murder trials most evidence is circumstantial evidence, and the evidence against Maria Ross is actually pretty ironclad. the weapon used to murder hughes was a .45 which is the same caliber of gun that Maria uses, she made a requisition for new ammo, and fired a single shot from her .45, they also have an eye witness placing Ross at the crime scene(envy literally shape shifted into her). the only people who know for sure she is innocent is we the viewers and the people who are framing her.
military tribunals are also different. they don't go the same way a civilian court does. so legally speaking its pretty easy to convict her
it's interesting to hear people's surprise or confusion on how the "trial" was handled in this episode. when you have corrupt or ill intentional individuals in charge, anything goes.
It's also reasonable to consider it from the perspective of someone in-world. Envy disguised as a random civilian gives a detailed account of events. Envy would know information that the investigation hadn't released, thereby establishing credibility. Yes, the tribunal was a railroading, but there would have to be enough evidence to pass basic scrutiny, and there's a LOT of evidence. Only we the audience know that there's a shape-shifter running around, so a credible witness saying "I saw Maria Ross shoot Hughes" is going to hold weight.
"That's the only other option"
Mustang: hold my beer
Can I just say, as I've been watching through this reaction series, I'm consistently astonished by your willingness to retread scenes, analyze dialogue, and really truly pay attention to the story unfolding.
It's a breath of fresh air, and highly appreciated by this particular viewer.
Bradley told them not to talk about the philosopher’s stone
That doesn’t do anything to prove her innocent
At most, they can incriminate her as part of the “Oroborus Gang”
15:45 What did you think the Flame Alchemist's thing was? Slightly heating people up? Mustang has killed before and will kill again.
Something I kind of like about some of the homunculi is how there's a very strong sibling dynamic.
A perfect example being the interaction between lust and envy in this and last episode.
A pair of siblings getting into mischief and teasingly insulting each other.
Lust, "So you don't know anything you're useless."
Envy, "Don't blame this on me you old hag! I'm short on manpower."
Tell me that that doesn't feel like something that a pair of siblings wouldn't say to each other.
Beyond the exception of gluttony lust and maybe envy it's questionable if they even care about each other.
This episode is so good. Roy is such a good character. Very interesting and deep episode.
Also been listening to a song that reminds me of Roy in this and future episodes (Trap God by Hollywood Undead). I think you guys will really love Roy and his complexities
I love that Kenny is simping for Roy lmao
wait never mind lol
Nice timing with "such speculation is best avoided"
Bullets from the same gun when hitting metal will do what we call, “mushrooming” cuz of how they deform, but bullets from the same gun could deform in different ways. So, each bullet will create different deformation patterns; the only similarity is the size of the holes created. The only way to connect her gun to the crime is looking at the scratch marks on the bullet; the scratch marks are created from the bullet traveling down the barrel and those scratch marks are specific to an individual gun, if they match they’re connected
Best reaction yet! I love how you two are giggling and making jokes towards the end
I just caught up with your fmab reaction,
I'm so happy that there are still rad reactors making FMAB videos with heart, I'm SO excited for you to meet my favourite character
I watched all the anime just weeks ago, together with my kids, we also watched the first live action movie... so good, I'm here just to watch ur reaction when u realize the "truth" about father 😁😁😁😁😬
This episode and the next are some of my favorites to see reactions of.
The paranoia these characters cause is uncanny. Love this series
In the manga, Ed and Al find out about Hugh's death from the newspaper too. I am not sure why they changed it for the anime, but I always thought the manga's version was more impactful.
I think it’s more impactful here actually. Imagine learning someone you admired was murdered told from someone you trusted, just for the next day find out they were convicted of the murder. Learning of such a death from a piece of paper is just boring and tacky. There’s no real storytelling, no raw emotion between the teller and the listener, there was no real impact like it was here.
13:30 you literally destroyed that cool and sexy scene lmaoooo
As for the bullets, yes in modern criminology it is fairly easy to match a bullet to a target hit. Bullets can be put back together like a puzzle and in the shows case the 45 acp round from her gun didn't fragment. It smashed down on impact and punched through the target Barry's hand armor. Meaning you can gauge the powder load, barrel length and distance from target then use those to give a start as to the force it had on impact. With that you can then look at the thickness, density and type of material it hit and get an idea of how it would rip, expand, bend and so forth. Basically with the bullet, the gun and the targets hand you can 100% prove it hit that target and with how much force based on the damage it did to it. Which again the force of impact boils down to certain factors already mentioned above so you can say with near certainty that her story checks out. In this case though that bullet didn't hit Barry so and you can prove that based on the damage wound of the armor hand. What it also a hard proof is the barrel markings left on the bullet. A grooved barrel leaves very unique markings to each barrel. So with that bullet and gun alone you can say it wasn't fired from her gun unless the killer somehow had her barrel or gun itself to make the kill. Guns are a form of science and science can break down how they work to a near perfect T. So as long as you have enough puzzle pieces for the equation of course. There are lots of gun science channels on youtube and many have great showcases on all of this. Never hurts to get some free education!
I loved this episode! Just wanted to through some recommendations out! Komi Can't Communicate would be really fun to watch and it seems right up you and Montana's alley. It's about a girl with social anxiety. Also, I'd recomment Yuri!!! on Ice! It's a really fun quick show about figure skaters. They are both quick slice of life anime you could finish fairly quickly!
Just fyi, that could never have been Envy impersonating Mustang. Alchemy can technically be performed by anyone, including homunculi, but it takes years of study to be proficient in even one type of material. Alchemists are also secretive about their knowledge, so most people don't specialize in the same thing. The only way to bypass the years if study is to see the Truth by performing human transmutation. And even then, Ed and Al only perform general alchemy, they are never able to create the explosions Mustang can.
The story is pritty good about showing us who envy is disguised as
Unless shown someone is envy, no one is envy
OOOOOoooooh you guys are getting into it now!
Omg Kenny! U watched Attack on Titan, not everything is as it seems cause of what they showed. Lol! You'll see. Montana gets a pass she's still very fresh to Anime. 😅😅😅. Kudos for figuring out Mustang's code words tho 😅😅.
And the Oscar goes to... Roy Mustang
13:52 i almost spit my drink !! XD
Some cool stuff lies ahead
Ima pull the Avatar Day on ya here. "That's why we call it 'justice'! Because it's just us!"
I really enjoy watching you guys watch this show. I wish you only did FMA instead of those other shows at the same time XD
He also told Armstrong there’s a lot of beautiful women where he was
Roy had me 100% fooled I thought he was gonna turn out to be an anti-hero/misled villain for a second
Kenny nailing Roy’s code is great, and I also have so much respect for Roy giving 0 craps about his public image. He makes such a fool of himself during this ploy but it’s he’s secretly actually being super smart 😂 LEGENDARY behavior
The main issue with them questioning if her gun killed Hughes is that ever gun leaves a distinct barrel signature that directly leads it back to a specific weapon , they should have easily been able to tell it wasn’t her gun that killed him
"He actually just killed her in cold blood, or... cold flame."
Montana: ruclips.net/video/54fxFYYoQ6s/видео.html
Kenny! Since you're a big chess player. I recommend. Code Geass and Death Note. Very chess heavy centric Animes also the one show on netflix with the girl chess player... Queens Gambit. Just popped in my head 😅😅😅😅
The best reaction so far from this series 😂😂
9:15 Yeah but they don't have the bullet that she fired, they have the bullet that she didn't fire.
Recently came across your channel & I love it!!! You two are so smart & wonderful, really love all your deductions & theories along with all on your psychology knowledge, especially with AOT, so interesting!! I haven't seen many people talk about why the characters do what they do like you two. But please consider watching Fullmetal Alchemist 2003, I know everyone loves Brotherhood but there's A LOT in 2003 that's not in this series, I feel like the only way to get the full experience of this series, you have to watch the 2003 series the movie, & then brotherhood, I prefer the 2003 series, its a bit more serious & darker, just some food for thought! Love you guys, keep doing what you're doing!!
I don’t think the Mustang thing was hard to figure out unless everyone else couldn’t figure out as quick too
Doctor: "She was a beautiful girl, it's a shame."
Mustang: "Major, you should head to this very specific place, lots of *beautiful women* there..."
*_BEAUTIFUL... WOMEN..._*
Kenny & Montana: 😐😐
Your first discussion in the video made me think of one of the few summer reading books I liked, it was called The Rag and Bone Shop, it was really good. I already disliked it when someone didn't want the real truth so that book just solidified that even more, probably why I liked the show Bones so much it was the best at getting evidence from the body itself than mere speculation.
Good job Montana for picking up the salamander reference. There are a lot of different mythological references throughout that are fun for mythology buffs.
Very minor spoiler (more like a spoiler hint)
When they show you why he uses women as his code, I'll admit there was an everything clicking moment for me. Cool that Kenny figured it out so quickly, though, even if he doesn't know all the details.
episode 19 ... almost there hehehe
There's also the fact that the head of Amestris is literally "Führer" so it's definitely Germany inspired
Mustang actually does encode his alchemy research as writings about his dates with women. All of the alchemists have some way to encode their research, for example Ed disguises his as travel logs.
The lizard/salamander is a symbol of fire/flame like in. Frozen 2
About the "another soul in Ed's body", pretty sure al being able to use alchemy without transmutation circle contradicts that, cuz is the memory of the truth, what changes your view so you are able to do it, what's special isn't his body but his soul
13:52 I laughed. 🤣
Maria is so hot in this episode.
Underrated waifu
@@Shane_A_M rip best waifu
Literally lmao
She's a cutie :)
I love Barry so much, he's hilarious.
Next episode is 🔥🔥🔥
"I think this is supposed to be Germany..."
Me: "It took you 17 episodes to realize that? Their leader is literally called Fuhrer." *ConfusedJackieChanMeme* 😂😂😂😂
His name is actually King Kink Bradley
A lot of people make the mistake of assuming Mustang is Envy in this episode, but the Homunculi actually can't perform alchemy, even if they had his gloves. The only "alchemy" they can perform is their random abilities, like Greed rearranging the carbon molecules to create his shield, or when their bodies regenerate. (Though this is not by choice.)
Mustang is sooooo hot when he burns thing to charred. I like him because of that lol
I am a villain 😅
You two are absolute so cute ! *_* Happy to rewatch FMA with you ^^
Congratulations, you guys are, if I recall, the ONLY reactors to realize King is Fuhrer Bradley's first name and NOT part of his title.
Fuhrer means leader in german. Yet the soldier call him "his excellency" which is associated with royalty, hence people thinking he's the King of Amestris. I wouldn't blame people to be confused of his title and name.
Although they also had trouble figuring out that the setting is based on Germany in the 1900s
Mustang is the best, fear not.
toastie
Really nice detail of alchemist journal of roy mustang with women name as a code 👍👍
3:03 this is so fucking funny for the Japanese legal system, because from what i've heard and read, and fom my layman point of view, While in the US we have a "Innocent until proven guilty" as in unless there is evidence to prove you guilty/to get a jury to believe you are guilty, you are innocent, while like in japan it is "Guilty until proven innocent" where its the opposite, you have to create/find an alibi, etc. I only know about this because I was weirded out with how the Phoenix wright games legal system works, but it makes sense with what i've heard/read about japanese legal system.
In all honesty I do believe that the "Innocent until proven guilty" method is in fact scientific methodology imo and 100% correct. If you 100% assume a theory to be true from the start (innocent), then you should try as much as you can to disprove that theory to affirm your beliefs/suspicions (until proven guilty).
I def understand Montana's thoughts though. but imo unless people can come up with a better system of prosecutors trying to find everything they can and fit it in with suspects, attourneys trying to find the flaws into everything they found, and a jury to be able to be as unbiased as they can, its a great methodology/scientific theory imo.
21:45 That's a intrestign question who would win between the the Strongarm Alchemist and the Flame Alchemist.
It's the flame alchemist. The answer of "who would win" for every fight pairing in this show except for V. Wrath and V. Father is "The Flame Alchemist".
Well, if it isn't raining.
Cant waittt nextt oneee
I’m hype
The homunculi can't use alchemy (beyond shifting their own bodies in specific ways). Someone who isn't born with a natural talent for alchemy (like Winry or Hughes) can't just touch a transmutation circle or wear a clothing item with a transmutation circle and just use that to perform alchemy, nothing would happen. They could possibly use a philosopher's stone if they understand some basic alchemy principles and science, which is another reason the stones are so dangerous. Even an alchemist putting on Roy's cinder gloves would have to have a good understanding of the science and math of flame alchemy in order to use the glove effectively, and they would have to understand it well enough to focus the flame on a single human body rather than blowing up the street and themselves in the process. Ed and Al might be exceptions since they've seen the Truth and have a greater inherent understanding of alchemy across the board.
Armstrong really wanted to beat Mustang to death right there
Yes Kenny chess is very cool 😂
16:33 “He can’t come back from this”
They forgot (or haven’t found out yet I can’t remember) that Roy literally helped commit genocide
A tiny homicide is not the point of no return for him even if he actually did it
You guys probably figured it out already, but gloves have nothing to do with flame alchemy. Gloves or no gloves, flame alchemy is exclusive skill to Roy Mustang.
mild spoilers after the gap.
Exclusive to Roy and his teacher, whose identity is a huge spoiler.
Mild correction, the gloves create a spark for him to manipulate. It's like Pyro in XMen The Last Stand, or the firebenders in that movie that doesn't exist - He needs an external source that he can manipulate.
That's why he's "useless on rainy days" - his gloves won't spark when wet, so he can't create a flame to use his alchemy on.
@@aliciacordero8399 Yeah I just meant that no one else can use flame alchemy, whether they have Mustang's gloves or not. Probably could have phrased it better in my original comment.
@@aliciacordero8399 And man we sure are lucky that the movie you are talking about just some day appeared in our nightmares, but never was a part of our reality. Imagine how much that world, in which some people got introduced to the show that movie is based on trough that movie, would suck. It's sad to even think about it.
Mustang actually isn't using true flame alchemy.
He is using his alchemy to gather oxygen in the air and then ignite it using his gloves, who are made from a special material, that sparks when he snaps his fingers.
Also notice that most of the episode, he is missing Hawkeye, his better half, his conscience.
Only 1 question at the end today?
Kenny questioning why people simp for Mustang, a literal cop, is me when I watch this show
It's never outright stated in the show, But the sins can't use alchemy.
I don't think that's because they're humonculi, though. Spoilers for episode 40:
I mean, Father is also a humonculus, and he can use alchemy just fine. Their issue is that they don't know _how_ to use alchemy.
ah the military justice system could be even worse than fiction
Kenny you are the coolest person dont worry
And even more stupidly, the .45 is the standard issue caliber in the Amestrian Military. So literally ANYONE could have done it. All they have is the flimsy witness statement, where if there was a witness, and they saw Ross, they should ALSO have seen Envy transform into Gracia Hughes, or if they only witnessed the perp leaving the scene, it would have been Envy, as they had transformed back when they hung up the phone and taunted the dying Hughes.
3 years of chess camp? BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA
They're here, scheming ways that mustang could have not been himself. They didn't even consider that Ross wasn't Ross, the simpler solution.
they just eat up these baits lmao
Equivalent exchange...
we have context that u guys dont XD
i say despite the reveal in ep 18 which u've already seen nvm :/
i thought the reveal was episodes away not the very next ep