Guy broke the rules, but it showed his integrity to what he believed was right. There is a disadvantage to the later auditions and this situation is proof of it. I'm glad Guy did what he did.
@@straitarrow5784 well in the (sarcasm) wise words of tiktok: To Jess: I like you have a cupcake To Keith: I like you, have a cupcake To guy: eeeeeeeeeeeeeeew To Rita: I like you, have a cupcake
I honestly love guy, he's such an amazing singer and he has a really big heart. He really felt bad that the guy had to wait for a response.. that's respect.
Why is everyone saying they should've deactivated his button? In the netherlands, where this show was founded, the coaches can take as many talents with them as they want, they just have to do 3-way battles.
Thats right. Its about the singers. Not what a coach want for his of hers team. The singers should be number 1. So you're one of the best singers that auditioned for the show but 3 teams are full and the 1 remaining coach looking for a female. Not fair so always the singer has to be number 1
Props to Wolf for being such a good sport! I could tell that he was almost ready to be sent off but he just accepted it and kept smiling and laughing! Not only does he have a brilliant voice but a great heart as well!
Dev Sajee. I would have been slightly upset. Because there is a certain expectation that you would think the Judges knew the rules. And I would feel that perhaps he deliberately meant to do that.
@@Cat-ql7jm What Guy did was he noticed a true talent and wanted to give him an opportunity where EVERYONE else turned him down! I feel like what Guy did almost changed his life and I'm glad he broke the rule. A unique and great guy like Wolf deserves something big! And the fact that he seemed ready to walk off the stage, even after the slight hope that Guy turned, shows just how humble and great of a guy, Wolf is.
He did break the rules. The turning of the chair means the coach wants them on their team. The text on the bottom of the chairs (at least in the American version and other international versions) says "I WANT YOU". So yes. He did break the rules and he knew.
@@frankyhenderson1067 But more the kind of rule that's worth breaking. As the coordinator guy said, the real focus of the show is the artists. The limits on how many a coach can have on the team is more of an artificial constraint.
@@Leto2ndAtreides I get that. I agree the point of the show is to show off artists and help them grow, but second hand it's still a competition. With rules. There needs to be some sort of tracker or a disconnection of the chairs. Have them turned around full time. Or something like that. There's a multitude of ideas.
@@frankyhenderson1067 They could also add a way to flag talents that coaches want but don't have space for, so they can figure out what to do with them later. In any case, this was a fair enough solution and it's apparently a common occurrence in some other country for the coaches to be able to add one last person like this if they're really passionate about the person... And then do a 3 way with double elimination.
All these people giving respect to Guy which is well deserved but not talking about how the production crew said at the end of the day it is about talent and allowed it to happen.
Anybody else get annoyed when Kelly kept calling Guy a cheater over and over. Like I know what he did wasn’t allowed, but he saw pure talent in his voice, and that’s all that matters in the end.
Cheating might sound harsh, but there are rules about how many people you can have on your team. And he ended up getting an extra singer on his team -- for now -- by working around the rules. Use your own word for that, but Kelly chose to call it cheating, and she's not wrong about what he did. She had even more reason to be mad, because she was being pressured -- even by the producers -- to take a contestant that she had not picked. That's BS. "But we'll have to turn around and tell him he didn't get through," they said. So what?!? He DIDN'T legitimately get through! Nobody with a vacancy on their team turned their chair. So stupid. They shouldn't even do a three-way battle. They should say, "Fine. If Guy wants this singer on his team, then he just needs to tell us which team member he's giving up. Right now." Otherwise, send this guy home. This is not rocket science.
@@johningram2153 You're talking as if it was somehow the singer's fault. It's worth noting that it's not the first time that happened. Other The Voice prods faced the same issue and three-way battle seems to be the way they always resolve it. What's really wrong is to put contestants on the prod knows won't get chosen because they don't fit Kelly's criterias. If she only wants a female contestant (which is clearly sexist and the reverse would inevitably cause a serious backlash - Ironically Kelly picked Sapphire instead of Wolf and abandoned her right after the Battles while Guy kept Wolf up to the Playoffs) then the prod should be honest and send the male contestants home. What's the point of keeping them with false hopes ? That's what wrong. When the prod chooses to keep the show going they expose themselves, the contestants and the jury to that kind of situation. I think there is a lack of empathy for the singer and the jury in your argument. They're here to choose the best. Letting one get away because Kelly only wants a female and the prod isn't honest enough to tell the male contestants that at that point they're just here for entertainment isn't professionnal. Unfair systems need to be broken and I think Guy did the right thing. It's not just about the rule, it's the global situation surrounding it that's wrong.
Also last year when that person sang say my name and she went up and poached the singer b4 all the coaches had a chance to pitch it was a different story then for Kelly
To be fair, he made things uncomfortable by doing that. Sure he liked his voice but he can’t pressure her into taking someone who doesn’t fit what she had planned for that very last spot. Lots of good singers get passed on, there is literally no reason to make a big deal about it or complicate things
It's because by breaking a rule he's putting undue pressure on one of the judges, the producers are running helter skelter and the contestant will have to told bluntly you can't continue despite getting a turn which is more heartbreaking than not getting a turn. So yeah.
He might not have intended that but it wasn't fair to put that on her either. It made her look bad because she had made her choice to wait for a female contestant to make her team diverse. She set out standards and its not that he wasn't incredible it was that she wanted her own choices which she is allowed to make and he knowingly did something he knew was against the rules and it out her in awkward position.
@@k.t202 well wasnt whole point of show to find good voices not forming a squad to compete? If you dont turn, that means you think that contestant is not good.
@@singsangsung9022 Thats the point but the second sentence you have isn't true. I've seen the voice in other countries and judges will tell contestants they were good but they were looking for something else and to come back again. No one is entitled to a turn, even if they have talent. Plenty of talented contestants don't get turns for the exact same reason Kelly didn't turn. Guy did a typical man thing and people are defending him because they don't see a problem with disrespecting rules, boundaries or women. Kelly had every right to set criteria for the team she was building and stick to it and Guy had no right to turn when he had no positions left on his team and pressure another judge, a female judge, whom he probably knew had set these criteria already and expect her to back down. Hes really not that nice or that emotionally intelligent if he truly believed what he did was okay.
@@k.t202 She said that she was looking for a female singer. That is the only time gender is ever mentioned in the plot of what happened. What he did had nothing to do with her being a woman. Why does that always have to be the case? People are people. "Typical man thing" that's fucking stupid.
@@LukasKhann But it does have everything to do with Guy being a man. A woman would not have pulled that. And it was the only time mentioned to the audience maybe, probably not the only time guy heard her say it or knew. I'm really sick of seeing comments where people defend guy and say Kelly did something wrong and that Guy is so nice. That was a microaggression and it seems no one seems to realize. Blaming Kelly for the way the show is or the fact that Guy turned and she didn't want the singer is total bullshit because he broke the rules and she stuck to her own standards she set in place and it isn't her fault at all Edit: spelling
Guy did break the rules of the show - as he should! Rules should never count more than a unique talent. There must be room for such things and it gives me hope that a) Guy turned around and b) they found a way to let the young man stay. Well done!
IMO Delta n Kells have been out of control at times..jumping onstage begging coercing singers to join their teams..Kells mostly. .unfair to artists (pressure) and other judges! Guy just had an instantaneous moment..no cheat intended..What a palava. .
To put the gender over the talent at the end of the blind auditions is also not really following the rules... candidates who sing at the end should not be picked by their gender even when your team "doesn't have enough females" 😅
but to be fair, when you're creating a team, you have to get the biggest, widest range of talent. Kelly is missing a soulful, powerhouse female. She's also one of the smarter, more talented judges, so I believe her/support her thought process. If he hadn't actually broken a rule, she wouldn't have had to explain why she didn't pick him - nobody does that. So...yeah... I get where you might be coming from but the Wuff guy wasn't even that good. He was unique, and Guy liked that. George and the other chick didn't turn around either, so I don't think you can say it gender bias.
@@daisye.c2978 can you imagine the outcry if the roles were reversed though? “I didn’t turn because I don’t want anymore women on my team. I need a powerful rock male voice for my team”. Shit would hit the fan so fast, the judge would be cancelled on Twitter half an hour after it aired.
So yeah - I mean disable his buttons like they do in the UK version number one - all the coaches have at least once on Uk voice heard the talent they love and are full and u see them gutted and hitting that button like wishing it to work- fairly entertaining actually Secondly yeah ok so I don’t think it’s fair Kelly is made to take that talent no way else anyone could do it or it could be used to sabotage a team etc etc BUT her excuse of I wanted a female is ridiculous - sorry that’s ridiculous !!! It’s about talent you are hearing !! That’s the point And sorry to be ‘that guy’ but what would have happened if it was reversed and a man said I don’t want a female .... ? (Fortunately it’s blind auditions so we don’t even need to go into skin colour / looks etc! But still I bet if it was the other way round Guy would be destroyed for saying that!) I’m pretty sure he didn’t think it through His face said it all - he didn’t want to cause chaos - did he even know it would turn?! Probably .. probably not? 🤷🏻♂️ he hit it thinking this is a talent that shouldn’t be missed and he was right tbh I genuinely think he did it to be like well I would if I could man! Didn’t think it would be like all political! And finally When the coaches realised he had to then let two go they all were like BRILLIANT , hahaha , serves him right! Etc Well - one it isn’t a huge punishment cos he does have that one extra so would in fact lose one more anyway so 🤷🏻♂️ but mainly - don’t think about the artists then hey? Not oh that’s a shame for two of them ... nope just how it hurts Guy Ultimately producers fault for letting it happen in first place - not having a contingency plan - not making it obviously clear enough the rules..... Most likely scenario however - ITS ALL STAGED AND FAKE TO GET VIEWS!!!!
I think Guy was in the RIGHT. Kelly is a fucking idiot! Letting this man slip through the net because she wants another woman on her team! Words fail me
I love how Delta is just staying out of it. She's just listening to the situation, taking everything in and not attacking guy because she can see where he was coming from. She was really listening and trying to understand the situation to help.
@Freak Show Read MY comment and your comment again dude. I NEVER mentioned about feminism, racism, or whatnot. But here you are being riled up about my short comment and doing comparison and badmouthing a person of different color. AND didn't you hear what the Executive Producer said that part of the philosophy of The Voice is 'putting the artist first'? While I admire Kelly's courage for standing up for what she wanted, I'm sure she already had many talented artists in her team and could've given Wolf a chance. I'm most impressed with Guy. He saw the talent in Wolf, and gave him the chance to show that talent to the world.
@@arielgr92 it’s her team, she structures it the way she pleases. If she doesn’t have the knowledge/experience to train the voice presented, she should not put them on her team. She would be doing herself and the singer a disservice.
I fully agree. How does she even know that a good female voice will come at the end? Just one awnser, this is all for show. Even Guy turning while he had no places left was probably staged. In the end it's not just about 'the voice' but also the show 'the voice' that comes with it.
Lol have u see how he treats Jack???? he destroy his comeback!!! He is not a good mentor tho!! Kelly been there for 4 times and win 2 times!! Guy been there 3 times n never win cause he is not a good coach!!
@@killertank3168 i think Kelly is good at getting people to “win” the competition. Guy offers more than just a title, he helps people win in life. The mental battle he helped Jack get through, is bigger than Jack winning the competition. He walked in wanting to reconnect to his love for music & left saying “I will never stop singing again” Guy did that👏🏾
@killertank3168 well not everything is about "winning" practice takes alot of time and if ur a coach that's when u try to speak the "facts or opinion ur saying"
@@virtuosity4 Coach Kelly was looking for a woman. She clearly stated that she would have turned for him, but she was looking for a woman for her final slot.
@@HeyThereHiThereHoThere rules that are shit are meant to be broken. Plus this is stupid, in the us version the button doesnt work if the team is full, so this is especially stupid...
I thought their buttons didn't even work once the team was full. I'm pretty sure I've seen coaches in other countries hit their buttons for people they wanted but couldn't have and they didn't turn around.
....thats what I thought as well. But, there is some value to them allowing a button to get pushed as there should be room to break the rules when needed as that is how life really is isn't it.
I thought the same too. If I am a coach and I admire his voice that I forgot that my team is already full, that's the precautions and so the buttons can't be pushed. For me, it's not Guy's fault, and why the other coaches didn't turn?
I really appreciate how in the later years (at least in my country) they are way more lenient with it, by the end of the audition, the coaches can continue to take new talent, they'll just have to do 3 way battle later one, because the situation was really unfair for those who go last in the audition
Everyone’s freaking out he changed the rules. Did you not hear this man sing??? He has one of THE most unique voices I’ve ever heard. This show can easily add more people if they wanted to each team, it’s called show business and flexibility. I’m glad Kelly didn’t get pressured to add him when it’s not what she was looking for but I’m even more pleased he made the show his voice is just magic.
@@hillshake9310 coming from someone who watched this live, I kinda didn’t appreciate Kelly saying she didn’t want the artist just because she didn’t want another male on her team, what I personally thought would’ve been better is that guy can have him on his team but Kelly can pick one artist from guy’s team to steal
@@HeyheyandAwesomedudeutbegaming i think ITS fair for her to do that. I mean if you already had enough Some specific ingredient in your cook, ofc you wouldnt put that ingredient into your food?
This happened with Pedro Gonçalves in The Voice Portugal! Non of the judges had a place in their team but all of them decided to break the rules... He won!
Why such a polemic? In France, coaches can take one last talent in their team if they are ready to do a three-singers battle and there's no problems with that!
Probably because they are all aware in France that they can do that. Obviously here not all judges - or in fact no judges - knew if it was acceptable. Although yeah, I still think it's fine and I mean it is all staged anyway, so this might be how they're introducing that it's a new, accepted rule on The Voice Aus as well?
Personally I think Guy didn't break the rules, well, he sees the talent and went for it. The management team should 've deactivated the chair whose team is full.
The rules give a limited number of teammembers and you cant add more. He still acted as if he could, he broke the rouls, its not an opinion thing lol That first sentence doesnt make sence the rule is there and was broken, nothing personal about it
Lol have u see how he treats Jack???? he destroy his comeback!!! He is not a good mentor tho!! Kelly been there for 4 times and win 2 times!! Guy been there 3 times n never win cause he is not a good coach!!?
Guy is the best. He is honest to his singing ability and his hearing as a judge and singer. He did the best that I am sure millions of audiences agreed with him while the other judges didn't dare enough to show their judgement,
The man's Normal talking voice is a talent on its own let alone his singing voice nd she says she wants a female? So its no longer about talent its about gender.. big shame
Yeah didn't really like the justification, I would have understood "I'm looking for another type of singer/voice/style" But "I'm not looking for more men" is a bit of a shitty excuse tbh
Actually, it's about the talent but also they make their teams based on what they believe it's the best and feel more comfortable. It's not that they just choose only by the way they sing, they also try to equilibrate the type of voices, etc in their teams. So maybe she had too many men or too many low voices and she wanted a woman to have that equilibrium in her team. They also have in consideration the other teams so maybe she thought that she needed a female. Most of the people that are in the blind auditions are very talented because they have already been filtered a few times, and not all of them are picked. Because they have strategies for their teams, they don't choose who they think it's just talented, they choose who they believe it's talented and it's going to be a benefit to their teams
If it were a girl, and someone said the needed a male voice, it would hv been called discrimination... Guy is such a nice guy... really appreciate him Edit: ok yeah, i was kinda wrong... if the judge has a certain thing in mind, and need a diverse vocal group, i guess you'd have to reject the ones you cannot work with, so it wasn't technically discrimination. Huh, 10 months really changed my opinion Sorry guys
@@avieralkaushal4468 That isn't what they said at all. Learn to read. Yes, they failed to put all the necessary punctuation, however, that does not mean their point is not clear. Don't be a reactionary. The person you replied to is saying that; in response to OP, there have been women coaches turning away females because they wanted men and they had had too many females on their team. Now, do I know how accurate their statement is, no, I do not know that. Yet, the words they are saying do not mean what you are responding towards.
For me, personally, it would not be males or females or non-binarys. Rather, it would be soprano, alto, tenor, baritone, bass, and the other ones I cannot recall from school, that if I was a coach on the voice I am sure I would know. So on _that_ point you can argue discrimination, because gender orientation should all be irrelevant in a singing competition. BUT* this is not a singing competition. It is a show about a singing competition. What I mean by that is the entire thing is staged. Granted, they are indeed looking for talented singers and the prizes are all real; by law they have to be, but if there was really an issue they would have cut the mics and not had the camera crew on them.
Sometimes breaking a rule for a really good reason, especially when you see the unique talent in a person is really quite a brave thing to do for Guy and he did stand for it whatever the consequences. I love him for doing that, he is such a genuine heartwarming person. God bless you Guy!!! ❤❤❤❤❤
It would be unfair to the other talent, also remember: these are recording artists: Kelly started her career and flourished by being a beacon of light. She sticks up for what is right including the artists on her team, the judges on the panel, & herself. If she allowed him in. If another more talented artists was next up… they would not be able to be chosen
Respect for guy, to trying to give someone with amazing musical talent a chance to make himself famous, even though he has to break the rules of some stupid show
@@VeeLuxeLive is responding to someone who give out their personal opinion like that really necessary ?? It felt so uncalled for regardless of guy being in the wrong
I just love the interaction at 2:54 Kelly - "Look what you've started" Guy - "We'll figure it out" 😂😂😂 Such a typical Aussie laid back 'she'll be right mate' attitude that shows Guy hasn't lost his roots of growing up not a celebrity, but just a normal Aussie guy (pun intended).
Marcus Lundgren I’ve played it back 4 times and can’t tell what he said. Because he looks directly at wolf when he says that so I think he did say Wolf
It's not live. So they probably kept them on and then decided what to do in post. Only the in-house audience would know. Or maybe they chose to do it for transparency. Because technically, we shouldn't be able to hear the producer's mike anyhow.
It's crazy that people here are supporting Guy. He didn't think for a second and got the contestant's hopes up when he knew he wasn't allowed to. The producer and crew came up with an incredibly fair solution extremely quickly. If Kelly had to take him it would have set a truly awful precedent and not have been fair at all - even for the artist, imagine being on a team with a coach you KNOW didn't want you there!? The buttons should be disabled once a team is full imo
once the team is full there is no need for the coach to have his back turned again those who have a full team in my opinion can enjoy the show as the public does. in italy they do that.
Whenever there a competition and prizes are involved, there has to be rules. Otherwise there will be complaints. People who do not want rules, could always just go and create their own records and sell. Nothing wrong with either way.
Guy showed his class that night. The artist comes first. The coaches ego driven need to win shouldn’t come before the artist. It’s not about the coach. It’s about the contestants.
Kelly. It's not about how many men or women you have, it's whether they can sing or not. Anyway I actually like what Guy did. The show would be crazy not to have someone like Wolf go through x
I blame the producers. This show has many different versions across the globe. I don’t think this type of thing happened yet on the USA version…probably bc of some other strategies by the producers to ensure talented singers that go late in audition process have a spot. What Kelly did was consistent with what goes on all The Voice shows- coaches get picky as their teams fill up. Sometimes they opt not to choose singers of a certain genre; in this case Kelly claimed gender (I’m sure there was more to it than what she said aloud). I think Guy was trying to do the right thing. I get Kelly was strategizing her team as she has right to do under rules. I think this a screw-up on the producers’ part. Hope they learned from it and found a way to adjust for a situation like this in future seasons.
Imagine coming there, singing your song, not ACTUALLY get chosen and then the whole audience starts cheering for you! Must be really awesome! Respect for Guy!
I don't think he broke the rules! He is just being a coach, that he recognizes "TALENT", yes coz omg this is a singing competition after all. Why make it look so complicated tho.
Acknowledging doesnt require you to turn your chair, especially when you have a full team. Because in my opinion, it gives the contestant a false hope that their journey in that particular season will continue
ofcourse he broke the rules. he has a limited amount of spots on his team and he filled them. cannot come round later on and change the rules , he has agreed to at the beginning. it IS a talentshow, but it is also a SHOW, with a producer, who set the rules for this show. Guy is free is start his own show and set the rules accordingly
@@bartduynstee1577 tbf tho it was dealt fairly so I don't think its a huge issue. If they didn't come up with a plan like that then I'd say he broke the rules but the 3 way battle was pretty clever.
@@nialloshea4323 what you have to understand about this particular show, is all the participants have been screened before and can actually sing. unlike the "got talent" en "x-factor" -shows , where anybody can turn up and most are a disaster.
I'm with Guy, you can't let someone like this go just because your team is full. I'm almost sure it was set up my the production team though because I thought the judges chairs couldn't turn once the teams were full, it does make for great TV.
I thought that the chairs were deactivated once their teams were full. Him hitting it should have done nothing. I have seen coaches hit their buttons before and nothing happen once their teams are full. Something seems a bit fishy here, like they wanted the drama for ratings or something.
@@zakretsas8898 AHAHA IKR !! But I do have to say that with alotta reality shows they do that, like with I'm a celebrity get me outta here, when Mel left they made a kinda scene about it but like in a funny way, I love dr Chris and julia!!
In my country the chairs are disabled Ive seen them pushing th button many times when they want to turn but the chair wont move at all. Funny clips actually
3:50 The producer said that part of the philosophy of this show is that they put the artist 1st. So I’m glad they abided by that philosophy and let him stay!
I’m happy that he was allowed to go forward in the competition on Guy’s team. Pretty much everyone who auditions is incredibly talented so you have to stand out in some way to get a chair turn. I feel like he did that in spades. I felt the same as Guy I can’t believe that more didn’t turn for him. He has an amazing and unique voice.
Kelly had a point. She didn't turn for him because she didn't want to. Why make her look bad just because another coach really liked him? I'm glad she didn't choose him because she was dragged into it when she didn't do anything wrong.
Yeah but her reason that she wanted a woman just because is rubbish and discriminatory! I mean she allegedly liked him and most importantly his voice, what it's all about... So at least don't say anything about that then!...
Its because she lacks the ability to coach beyond her own skillset which is also lacking. Kelly Rowland is an ok singer with a huge ego. She doesn't know how to coach someone with a real unique talent. That's ok. But she :looked: bad because it looks bad when you don't like someone because of what they have (or don't have) in then undergarments.
ofcourse it does. they are all accomplished artists and if they coach an aspiring singer to a win, it makes them look good as well and that amounts to better sales of their own products
Honestly I forget about the judges most of the time lol. Like I get they have to coach them but just about all of them have talent anyways I mostly pay attention to them
I salute Guy Sebastian for breaking the rules and turn around even if his team was already complete... He appreciate the talent of the guy who do the audition 😁👋👋👋 Only an amazing person and intellegent judge can do that 😁😁😁 He did the right thing which is turning around coz the guy who do the audition was deserving 😁
Looking back on this season compared to 2021 - IT'S SO NEGATIVE AND TOXIC?!?! So glad they kept guy and got rid of the other coaches. People are tired of drama these days !!!! Rita, Jess, Keith and Guy respect each other so much more and that's what people enjoy watching.
many men have said that, if a coach has way more of one gender than the other in their team they usually try to even it out a little bit.... nice reach tho
@@teowachowski1143 Many men like who? You've seen this often or are you the one stretching? In person/in the music world it probably wouldn't have been a big deal. Online in the RUclips comments it's always a big deal
Kelly, hypocritically, broke the rules last year. Guy was not trying to pick her team. He just didn't want this man to be eleminated simply because he's a man. The Voice is about showcasing *the voice,* not the gender of the voice. So the right decision was made...and this definitely does *not* classify as a "scandal"
Not sure if this is right, but guessing people say she broke the rules last year cause of her team member who won. He was a looper. Did everything with his voice and he was fantastic. Not sure how else she broke rules.
I still think Guy should gave offered Kelly a free choice of any one of his female singers, and then kept Wolf on his team kit he wanted him that badly. Would have made the most sense!
I think that’s unfair on the singer as they potentially might’ve had the choice of guy and Kelly and went for guy. Then you’re forcing them to go on a team they didn’t want and earned the right to reject
Weird tho cuz I’ve seen a couple of blind auditions where the judges desperately press their buttons to no avail because their teams are full, but somehow he’s able to turn for this contestant?
My respect for Guy went to the roof! His integrity was unshakable.. Well, I guess, it's time for them to change their rules 😂 Amazing, Guy! Keep it up. 👍🏼
Not really he put the artist in the position that he thought he was on a team only to find out technically he cant be. Guy should do what all coaches in that position do Tell the artist that their team was full so they couldn't turn but the artist was good.
Every artist has a specific voice they are looking for and she wants one more girl with a beautiful voice.. it's not about being biased it's about knowing exactly what you want.... I can't just take someone because they are available rather you take them because you want them.....jeez!.. She is a good coach and she will continue to be one of the best judges
Yes, I agree that he DID NOT BREAK ANY OR ALL THE RULES!!! The actual executive director of the show right there stated that the performers and the performance COMES FIRST!!!! Thank you!
There's nothing wrong with Kelly wanting one more female singer for her team. How's that being sexist? that's just what she's specifically looking for. At that stage in the competition when you only need one more vocalist added to your team, of course you're going to be picky.
@@orangesodasipper yes it is about the voice obviously but Kelly wanted a female singer for her last spot on her team. I literally see nothing wrong with that. If I was a judge on the voice and looking for one last spot I'd be picky too.
Been watching loads of these clips and the lack of connection between Guy and Kelly astounds me.. She is in his face a lot and he gets awkward and looking uncomfortable.. Don't know why this is a problem.. Have a battle between 3 people.. He's very good and deserved a spot right away
Tbh this problem could've been avoided if they had something like a Comeback Stage in the US version. With the amount of good singers this year, I'm surprised that they didn't consider it. Get some cheap Australian 'celebrity' to oversee it and there you go.
I thought it was called the voice Kelly is looking for pesific artists they might need to change a few things not fair on the gent standing there wondering what I has happened
BeachNanny when he turned around he had a surprised look on his face. I wonder if he didn’t think his chair would turn but when it did it surprised him. I dunno just a thought I had.
Delta is so sweet. When she says: well, we, we cant break his heart, I loved that part. And when Kelly goes over and looks at guy: Me: HAHAHA The coaches are so funny when they say stuff, like when Boy says: he’s gonna rewrite the rules, like Kelly did last year, and why cant I have one? Fine I’ll have two. Maybe three.
can someone tell kelly to stop yelling at everyone? remember last year when she made denzel sing an original and she bragged about how she's breaking the rules? now when someone else just wants to push their button she acts like she's sitting in front of steve smith. like, can you calm down and stop yelling at people? ur not exactly innocent either. mad respect to Guy for standing his ground and sticking by his decision, despite having a massive bowtie yell at him left and right just because he pressed a button.
@@r.i.3073 Nobody actually forced her to take him on her team, the executive producer politely asked her if she wanted him. Maybe she felt uncomfortable at that moment as she didn't want to say "I don't want you on my team" in front of the contestant's face... But at the end she didn't take him, Guy did who actually wanted him
We all saw it coming. They now have turned the voice into such a dramatic show ffs. Ngl it was a boss move. UK the voice was ok but I feel sorry for her they were pressuring her
Guy broke the rules, but it showed his integrity to what he believed was right. There is a disadvantage to the later auditions and this situation is proof of it. I'm glad Guy did what he did.
and, becuase of this, this year, they have unlimited artists! its way more fair for everyone!
@@annahs.channel , Guy chose only a few because he knew his friend Bella Taylor from his Hill Song Church would win.
@@straitarrow5784 oooooooof
@@annahs.channel , its true.
@@straitarrow5784 well in the (sarcasm) wise words of tiktok:
To Jess: I like you have a cupcake
To Keith: I like you, have a cupcake
To guy: eeeeeeeeeeeeeeew
To Rita: I like you, have a cupcake
I honestly love guy, he's such an amazing singer and he has a really big heart. He really felt bad that the guy had to wait for a response.. that's respect.
What is his name?
The voice Australia sucks
Especially when Kelly's voice is mediocre
@@TeaJayOne wolf winters
He should have stuck with the rules, then he wouldn't have had to feel bad.
Why is everyone saying they should've deactivated his button? In the netherlands, where this show was founded, the coaches can take as many talents with them as they want, they just have to do 3-way battles.
Unfair. Some judges might have 0 contestants and some contestants might have advantage over others
They do that in Voice American
They do this in the USA as well and they shouldn't have. They should have let him watch.
@@nassimb7151 if they turn, they turn and the contestant picks the judge. If they don't turn that's their problem.
Thats right. Its about the singers. Not what a coach want for his of hers team. The singers should be number 1. So you're one of the best singers that auditioned for the show but 3 teams are full and the 1 remaining coach looking for a female. Not fair so always the singer has to be number 1
Props to Wolf for being such a good sport! I could tell that he was almost ready to be sent off but he just accepted it and kept smiling and laughing! Not only does he have a brilliant voice but a great heart as well!
Dev Sajee. I would have been slightly upset. Because there is a certain expectation that you would think the Judges knew the rules. And I would feel that perhaps he deliberately meant to do that.
@@Cat-ql7jm What Guy did was he noticed a true talent and wanted to give him an opportunity where EVERYONE else turned him down! I feel like what Guy did almost changed his life and I'm glad he broke the rule. A unique and great guy like Wolf deserves something big! And the fact that he seemed ready to walk off the stage, even after the slight hope that Guy turned, shows just how humble and great of a guy, Wolf is.
He had relaunched a tube channel and invited everyone over
Reminds me of legend . Or a sad villain
yea...
Just deactivate the chairs of coaches who have a full team. Problem solved.
Professionalism should prevail and deactivating should not be necessary.
They do that in the USA version
Yeah it should have been with the system
They just want to do Bollywood drama.....
Agreed
He didn't break the rules, he appreciated the talent he heard
He did break the rules. The turning of the chair means the coach wants them on their team. The text on the bottom of the chairs (at least in the American version and other international versions) says "I WANT YOU". So yes. He did break the rules and he knew.
@@frankyhenderson1067 But more the kind of rule that's worth breaking. As the coordinator guy said, the real focus of the show is the artists.
The limits on how many a coach can have on the team is more of an artificial constraint.
@@Leto2ndAtreides I get that. I agree the point of the show is to show off artists and help them grow, but second hand it's still a competition. With rules. There needs to be some sort of tracker or a disconnection of the chairs. Have them turned around full time. Or something like that. There's a multitude of ideas.
@@frankyhenderson1067 They could also add a way to flag talents that coaches want but don't have space for, so they can figure out what to do with them later.
In any case, this was a fair enough solution and it's apparently a common occurrence in some other country for the coaches to be able to add one last person like this if they're really passionate about the person... And then do a 3 way with double elimination.
@@Leto2ndAtreides hm. Well. It was years ago haha. Great discussion
All these people giving respect to Guy which is well deserved but not talking about how the production crew said at the end of the day it is about talent and allowed it to happen.
Anybody else get annoyed when Kelly kept calling Guy a cheater over and over. Like I know what he did wasn’t allowed, but he saw pure talent in his voice, and that’s all that matters in the end.
ratings. Antagonism gets better ratings.
Cheating might sound harsh, but there are rules about how many people you can have on your team. And he ended up getting an extra singer on his team -- for now -- by working around the rules. Use your own word for that, but Kelly chose to call it cheating, and she's not wrong about what he did. She had even more reason to be mad, because she was being pressured -- even by the producers -- to take a contestant that she had not picked. That's BS. "But we'll have to turn around and tell him he didn't get through," they said. So what?!? He DIDN'T legitimately get through! Nobody with a vacancy on their team turned their chair. So stupid. They shouldn't even do a three-way battle. They should say, "Fine. If Guy wants this singer on his team, then he just needs to tell us which team member he's giving up. Right now." Otherwise, send this guy home. This is not rocket science.
@@johningram2153 You're talking as if it was somehow the singer's fault. It's worth noting that it's not the first time that happened. Other The Voice prods faced the same issue and three-way battle seems to be the way they always resolve it. What's really wrong is to put contestants on the prod knows won't get chosen because they don't fit Kelly's criterias. If she only wants a female contestant (which is clearly sexist and the reverse would inevitably cause a serious backlash - Ironically Kelly picked Sapphire instead of Wolf and abandoned her right after the Battles while Guy kept Wolf up to the Playoffs) then the prod should be honest and send the male contestants home. What's the point of keeping them with false hopes ? That's what wrong. When the prod chooses to keep the show going they expose themselves, the contestants and the jury to that kind of situation. I think there is a lack of empathy for the singer and the jury in your argument. They're here to choose the best. Letting one get away because Kelly only wants a female and the prod isn't honest enough to tell the male contestants that at that point they're just here for entertainment isn't professionnal. Unfair systems need to be broken and I think Guy did the right thing. It's not just about the rule, it's the global situation surrounding it that's wrong.
Also last year when that person sang say my name and she went up and poached the singer b4 all the coaches had a chance to pitch it was a different story then for Kelly
To be fair, he made things uncomfortable by doing that. Sure he liked his voice but he can’t pressure her into taking someone who doesn’t fit what she had planned for that very last spot. Lots of good singers get passed on, there is literally no reason to make a big deal about it or complicate things
Honestly, they should make an “I LOVE IT” button when they are full.
Or “I NEED YOU”
but then they would press everytime, just so that the cintestent doesn't become sad
ikr
Agree!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣this just cracks me up
The guy is been treated like he killed a person rather than a “rule”. He saw the talent and he turned.
and he said he was just acknowledging the talent rather than saying he was actually trying to get him on the team. He rolled with it from there.
It's because by breaking a rule he's putting undue pressure on one of the judges, the producers are running helter skelter and the contestant will have to told bluntly you can't continue despite getting a turn which is more heartbreaking than not getting a turn. So yeah.
it's for a show probably
@@randomramyeon4209 Most probably or the views won't come if everything is by the rule and no drama.
@@kuriakosekjoseph6253 yea it’s 100% for the show, all to get people watching and hey it worked for me because of their shitty title
I love how Delta was confused by the situation but at no point did she criticize or attack Guy! She understood why he did it
His talking voice sounds like one of those witnessess that has had their voices digitally warped for protection. 😂😂😂
nice recycle. we'll see how it turns out
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Called Mary from Burnley or something.. Haha😁
Whistleblower
THIS...IS BIG BROTHER
So Kelly was the only one who could turn and she wasn’t going to turn for males so why even have males auditioning at this point?
Because that’s what SHE was looking for...the producers wouldn’t know the judge’s personal strategy
@@Fitbodian but since all the other judges have full teams and she only wants girls, means that all boys are not gonna get through
Right it's the 'Voice' not the 'Genital'
Couldnt agree more . Waste of time and needless drama . . .she does t care how many amazing male voices she hears she only wants a female ouch .
Yup agree though
Kelly acted like Guy did some huge cheat but he just was being a good guy and appreciating the singers voice.
He might not have intended that but it wasn't fair to put that on her either. It made her look bad because she had made her choice to wait for a female contestant to make her team diverse. She set out standards and its not that he wasn't incredible it was that she wanted her own choices which she is allowed to make and he knowingly did something he knew was against the rules and it out her in awkward position.
@@k.t202 well wasnt whole point of show to find good voices not forming a squad to compete? If you dont turn, that means you think that contestant is not good.
@@singsangsung9022 Thats the point but the second sentence you have isn't true. I've seen the voice in other countries and judges will tell contestants they were good but they were looking for something else and to come back again. No one is entitled to a turn, even if they have talent. Plenty of talented contestants don't get turns for the exact same reason Kelly didn't turn. Guy did a typical man thing and people are defending him because they don't see a problem with disrespecting rules, boundaries or women. Kelly had every right to set criteria for the team she was building and stick to it and Guy had no right to turn when he had no positions left on his team and pressure another judge, a female judge, whom he probably knew had set these criteria already and expect her to back down. Hes really not that nice or that emotionally intelligent if he truly believed what he did was okay.
@@k.t202 She said that she was looking for a female singer. That is the only time gender is ever mentioned in the plot of what happened. What he did had nothing to do with her being a woman. Why does that always have to be the case? People are people.
"Typical man thing" that's fucking stupid.
@@LukasKhann But it does have everything to do with Guy being a man. A woman would not have pulled that. And it was the only time mentioned to the audience maybe, probably not the only time guy heard her say it or knew. I'm really sick of seeing comments where people defend guy and say Kelly did something wrong and that Guy is so nice. That was a microaggression and it seems no one seems to realize. Blaming Kelly for the way the show is or the fact that Guy turned and she didn't want the singer is total bullshit because he broke the rules and she stuck to her own standards she set in place and it isn't her fault at all
Edit: spelling
Guy did break the rules of the show - as he should! Rules should never count more than a unique talent. There must be room for such things and it gives me hope that a) Guy turned around and b) they found a way to let the young man stay.
Well done!
IMO Delta n Kells have been out of control at times..jumping onstage begging coercing singers to join their teams..Kells mostly. .unfair to artists (pressure) and other judges! Guy just had an instantaneous moment..no cheat intended..What a palava. .
To put the gender over the talent at the end of the blind auditions is also not really following the rules... candidates who sing at the end should not be picked by their gender even when your team "doesn't have enough females" 😅
FACTS! But no-one Talks about tg hat 😂
but to be fair, when you're creating a team, you have to get the biggest, widest range of talent. Kelly is missing a soulful, powerhouse female. She's also one of the smarter, more talented judges, so I believe her/support her thought process. If he hadn't actually broken a rule, she wouldn't have had to explain why she didn't pick him - nobody does that. So...yeah... I get where you might be coming from but the Wuff guy wasn't even that good. He was unique, and Guy liked that. George and the other chick didn't turn around either, so I don't think you can say it gender bias.
Isnt up to her tho? It is her rights and her team as well as her strategy(?)
@@daisye.c2978 can you imagine the outcry if the roles were reversed though? “I didn’t turn because I don’t want anymore women on my team. I need a powerful rock male voice for my team”.
Shit would hit the fan so fast, the judge would be cancelled on Twitter half an hour after it aired.
So yeah - I mean disable his buttons like they do in the UK version number one - all the coaches have at least once on Uk voice heard the talent they love and are full and u see them gutted and hitting that button like wishing it to work- fairly entertaining actually
Secondly yeah ok so I don’t think it’s fair Kelly is made to take that talent no way else anyone could do it or it could be used to sabotage a team etc etc BUT her excuse of I wanted a female is ridiculous - sorry that’s ridiculous !!! It’s about talent you are hearing !! That’s the point
And sorry to be ‘that guy’ but what would have happened if it was reversed and a man said I don’t want a female .... ? (Fortunately it’s blind auditions so we don’t even need to go into skin colour / looks etc! But still I bet if it was the other way round Guy would be destroyed for saying that!)
I’m pretty sure he didn’t think it through
His face said it all - he didn’t want to cause chaos - did he even know it would turn?! Probably .. probably not? 🤷🏻♂️ he hit it thinking this is a talent that shouldn’t be missed and he was right tbh I genuinely think he did it to be like well I would if I could man!
Didn’t think it would be like all political!
And finally
When the coaches realised he had to then let two go they all were like BRILLIANT , hahaha , serves him right! Etc
Well - one it isn’t a huge punishment cos he does have that one extra so would in fact lose one more anyway so 🤷🏻♂️ but mainly - don’t think about the artists then hey? Not oh that’s a shame for two of them ... nope just how it hurts Guy
Ultimately producers fault for letting it happen in first place - not having a contingency plan - not making it obviously clear enough the rules.....
Most likely scenario however -
ITS ALL STAGED AND FAKE TO GET VIEWS!!!!
Why do the rest of thr judges made this so complicated and made Guy look like some disastrous person?
For ratings
Exactly
Because that is really disastrous
I think Guy was in the RIGHT. Kelly is a fucking idiot! Letting this man slip through the net because she wants another woman on her team! Words fail me
because guy had no place doing that, I would be really pissed too if another coach put me in that position
If he is full, his turn doesnt count. Why make it so complicated.
You gotta be nice as well
Yes exactly
Actually
If you ask this that means you are not Australian. It wouldn’t be kind to break his heart after giving hope just because of a judge’s mistake.
Like they said, they have to put the artist first
I love how Delta is just staying out of it. She's just listening to the situation, taking everything in and not attacking guy because she can see where he was coming from. She was really listening and trying to understand the situation to help.
well its kelly who is being pressured here cause she is the only one that can take him.
Yes, the attitude of Kelly and the one with the hat was unacceptable.
@Freak Show Read MY comment and your comment again dude. I NEVER mentioned about feminism, racism, or whatnot. But here you are being riled up about my short comment and doing comparison and badmouthing a person of different color.
AND didn't you hear what the Executive Producer said that part of the philosophy of The Voice is 'putting the artist first'? While I admire Kelly's courage for standing up for what she wanted, I'm sure she already had many talented artists in her team and could've given Wolf a chance.
I'm most impressed with Guy. He saw the talent in Wolf, and gave him the chance to show that talent to the world.
The hat guy is charmeleon@@soilabelle
@@soilabelle ....the one with the hat hahahahaha
I love Guy Sebastian, he’s just a genuine kind soul.
This isn't a competition for the best voice if she's turning down a voice like that just because she want a female
The judge has the right to choose his/her contender.
She picks the one that she can train. She cant train a voice that low because she herself cant even sing that low xd
@@arielgr92 how is that? She just didn’t have enough females in her team.
@@arielgr92 it’s her team, she structures it the way she pleases. If she doesn’t have the knowledge/experience to train the voice presented, she should not put them on her team. She would be doing herself and the singer a disservice.
I fully agree. How does she even know that a good female voice will come at the end?
Just one awnser, this is all for show. Even Guy turning while he had no places left was probably staged. In the end it's not just about 'the voice' but also the show 'the voice' that comes with it.
Everyone else: discussing on what to do
Guy: quietly talks to the talent
Lol have u see how he treats Jack???? he destroy his comeback!!! He is not a good mentor tho!! Kelly been there for 4 times and win 2 times!! Guy been there 3 times n never win cause he is not a good coach!!
@@killertank3168 i think Kelly is good at getting people to “win” the competition. Guy offers more than just a title, he helps people win in life. The mental battle he helped Jack get through, is bigger than Jack winning the competition. He walked in wanting to reconnect to his love for music & left saying “I will never stop singing again” Guy did that👏🏾
@killertank3168 well not everything is about "winning" practice takes alot of time and if ur a coach that's when u try to speak the "facts or opinion ur saying"
I don't care if guy broke the rules, he made a decision not to let raw talent slip away and it was worth it, good job guy❤
Guy has a pure heart, I do understand Kelly's point, after all she has all the right to pick for her team, but Guy, his heart is just beautiful.
She literally admitted to sex-based discrimination, that's her whole point .
its her right to choose. and beside she said already she has too many men in her team.
Maksymilian Leśniewski she is not discriminating, she said she had almost no females, it’s understandable to want to even the numbers
@@fernandacapaceta no she had 5 and 6 before rejecting him that's not "almost no females"
@@blood4passion What do you you mean she had 6 males and 5 females before she rejected him
Respect to an artist who turned his chair regardless of the gender but just pure appreciation with raw talent
HE GOT THE GUYS HOPES UP! FOLLOW THE FUCKING RULES.
I came in late, I don't get what happened. What happened here?
@@virtuosity4 Coach Kelly was looking for a woman. She clearly stated that she would have turned for him, but she was looking for a woman for her final slot.
@@HeyThereHiThereHoThere rules that are shit are meant to be broken. Plus this is stupid, in the us version the button doesnt work if the team is full, so this is especially stupid...
IKR! Kelly's idea was so sexist!
I thought their buttons didn't even work once the team was full. I'm pretty sure I've seen coaches in other countries hit their buttons for people they wanted but couldn't have and they didn't turn around.
....thats what I thought as well. But, there is some value to them allowing a button to get pushed as there should be room to break the rules when needed as that is how life really is isn't it.
I thought the same too. If I am a coach and I admire his voice that I forgot that my team is already full, that's the precautions and so the buttons can't be pushed. For me, it's not Guy's fault, and why the other coaches didn't turn?
For ratings...
yeah, they never let coaches with full teams to push after they are filled, this is so staged but is kinda cool tho
I tbought that also...thought it was locked out...guess not...well at least he has another chance to bring it
I really appreciate how in the later years (at least in my country) they are way more lenient with it, by the end of the audition, the coaches can continue to take new talent, they'll just have to do 3 way battle later one, because the situation was really unfair for those who go last in the audition
Everyone’s freaking out he changed the rules. Did you not hear this man sing??? He has one of THE most unique voices I’ve ever heard. This show can easily add more people if they wanted to each team, it’s called show business and flexibility. I’m glad Kelly didn’t get pressured to add him when it’s not what she was looking for but I’m even more pleased he made the show his voice is just magic.
No, we didn't hear him sing... that wasn't part of this video clip.
@@jerryharris876 well it takes two seconds to look it up
@@betty3166 his name is wolf winters
@@Jayfeather1818 what's his name? So I can look him up
@@celineleeuwe1206 wolf winters
It’s funny. In 2019 Kelly said “rules are meant to be broken” after she made one singer on her team break the rules
She accepted the rule breaking in this video, she just didn't wanted the artist.
@@hillshake9310 coming from someone who watched this live, I kinda didn’t appreciate Kelly saying she didn’t want the artist just because she didn’t want another male on her team, what I personally thought would’ve been better is that guy can have him on his team but Kelly can pick one artist from guy’s team to steal
@@HeyheyandAwesomedudeutbegaming i think ITS fair for her to do that. I mean if you already had enough Some specific ingredient in your cook, ofc you wouldnt put that ingredient into your food?
What a ,#$$##
If they talking rules then why let the auditionees sing together then pick! Fvcking market
That’s not breaking rules, it’s all about the talent and the effort you put to it
then he should not turn and contact him personally afterwards
Thats breaking rules. And also this was staged so no point here
Yes it is 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
The small talk while they're waiting.. "Do you do voice-overs... you should!" Totally hilarious!!!!!
they doesnt know what said to him hahahahaha
This happened with Pedro Gonçalves in The Voice Portugal! Non of the judges had a place in their team but all of them decided to break the rules... He won!
Pedro Gonçalves- Íris The Voice Portugal season 3! You have to see this!!
He didnt won. A runner up
but thats all judges together, not 1
Lies
why are they still auditioning if non of the judges has any space left in their team ?
Why such a polemic? In France, coaches can take one last talent in their team if they are ready to do a three-singers battle and there's no problems with that!
AstroVision Song Contest Drama makes them money!
and this is Australia's, not France sadly. Different rules
@@redtigers6262 Ik but it's ridiculous to do such drama for this
In Philippines you can do a three-singers battle too! and we have no problem with that, infact we actually like the three-singers battle.
Probably because they are all aware in France that they can do that. Obviously here not all judges - or in fact no judges - knew if it was acceptable. Although yeah, I still think it's fine and I mean it is all staged anyway, so this might be how they're introducing that it's a new, accepted rule on The Voice Aus as well?
Personally I think Guy didn't break the rules, well, he sees the talent and went for it. The management team should 've deactivated the chair whose team is full.
Or just let him watch for the future. If he could. He might be able to steal him during the battles.
The rules give a limited number of teammembers and you cant add more. He still acted as if he could, he broke the rouls, its not an opinion thing lol
That first sentence doesnt make sence the rule is there and was broken, nothing personal about it
but deactivating the chair would be unnecessary and a waist of time he should have to stuck with the rules and not turned.
Lol have u see how he treats Jack???? he destroy his comeback!!! He is not a good mentor tho!! Kelly been there for 4 times and win 2 times!! Guy been there 3 times n never win cause he is not a good coach!!?
Um @@killertank3168 Bella Taylor Smith from team guy won so he has won at least once
Guy is the best. He is honest to his singing ability and his hearing as a judge and singer. He did the best that I am sure millions of audiences agreed with him while the other judges didn't dare enough to show their judgement,
The man's Normal talking voice is a talent on its own let alone his singing voice nd she says she wants a female? So its no longer about talent its about gender.. big shame
Exactly. It's like having a very qualified job applicant but not accepted because he is a man. So much for inclusivity. Go for talent, not gender.
Yeah didn't really like the justification, I would have understood "I'm looking for another type of singer/voice/style"
But "I'm not looking for more men" is a bit of a shitty excuse tbh
Actually, it's about the talent but also they make their teams based on what they believe it's the best and feel more comfortable. It's not that they just choose only by the way they sing, they also try to equilibrate the type of voices, etc in their teams. So maybe she had too many men or too many low voices and she wanted a woman to have that equilibrium in her team. They also have in consideration the other teams so maybe she thought that she needed a female. Most of the people that are in the blind auditions are very talented because they have already been filtered a few times, and not all of them are picked. Because they have strategies for their teams, they don't choose who they think it's just talented, they choose who they believe it's talented and it's going to be a benefit to their teams
This isn't a job application, it's a gameshow. They can discriminate however they want.
@@dchen2140 Not a game show dear, it's a TALENT show.
If it were a girl, and someone said the needed a male voice, it would hv been called discrimination... Guy is such a nice guy... really appreciate him
Edit: ok yeah, i was kinda wrong... if the judge has a certain thing in mind, and need a diverse vocal group, i guess you'd have to reject the ones you cannot work with, so it wasn't technically discrimination. Huh, 10 months really changed my opinion
Sorry guys
no it wouldnt lol many girl coaches have said that before......its called having a diverse team
'guy' is a really nice 'guy' lol
@@teowachowski1143 again so basically you are saying he can't compete because it's a he not she isn't that discrimination on basis of gender?
@@avieralkaushal4468 That isn't what they said at all. Learn to read. Yes, they failed to put all the necessary punctuation, however, that does not mean their point is not clear.
Don't be a reactionary.
The person you replied to is saying that; in response to OP, there have been women coaches turning away females because they wanted men and they had had too many females on their team.
Now, do I know how accurate their statement is, no, I do not know that. Yet, the words they are saying do not mean what you are responding towards.
For me, personally, it would not be males or females or non-binarys. Rather, it would be soprano, alto, tenor, baritone, bass, and the other ones I cannot recall from school, that if I was a coach on the voice I am sure I would know.
So on _that_ point you can argue discrimination, because gender orientation should all be irrelevant in a singing competition.
BUT* this is not a singing competition. It is a show about a singing competition. What I mean by that is the entire thing is staged. Granted, they are indeed looking for talented singers and the prizes are all real; by law they have to be, but if there was really an issue they would have cut the mics and not had the camera crew on them.
That judge looks like a Hispanic Leonardo DiCaprio
StanislavyeungHK yes he does lmao
I THOUGHT THE SAME THING lmao
He’s Malaysian Australian
Omg i tought so too
I thought more of mr. Bean
Sometimes breaking a rule for a really good reason, especially when you see the unique talent in a person is really quite a brave thing to do for Guy and he did stand for it whatever the consequences. I love him for doing that, he is such a genuine heartwarming person. God bless you Guy!!! ❤❤❤❤❤
Mad respect for Guy, who really cherish the talent over game play under certain rules.
Put the talent first
It would be unfair to the other talent, also remember: these are recording artists: Kelly started her career and flourished by being a beacon of light. She sticks up for what is right including the artists on her team, the judges on the panel, & herself. If she allowed him in. If another more talented artists was next up… they would not be able to be chosen
WHEN HE TALK HE SOUND LIKE.WHEN PEOPLE IN WITNESS PROTECTION GIVES INTERVIEWS AND THEY DISTORT THEIR VOICE REALY REALY LOW😆😆
Lmaooo so true!🤣
loooool
😂😂😂
I know what you mean LOL!
He reminds me of Nick Kroll distorting his voice.
😂 I thought the same hahahaha
The acting in this staged situation makes the Kardashians look like they deserve Emmys
🤣😂😄😅👍🏼
💀💀🤣🤣🤣😂😂
Jajaja jajajaja!! You are super
Kardass....thians
Hahahahhaha
My respect to Kelly for standing her ground. There are rules for a reason.
especially when Guy started to try and gaslight her, staying crap like "oh, so you wouldn't take him at all?"
Kelly had a shitty rule “I didn’t take him cuz he’s not a woman” tf is that?
Respect for guy, to trying to give someone with amazing musical talent a chance to make himself famous, even though he has to break the rules of some stupid show
@@northernkiwi child bye.
@@VeeLuxeLive is responding to someone who give out their personal opinion like that really necessary ?? It felt so uncalled for regardless of guy being in the wrong
I just love the interaction at 2:54
Kelly - "Look what you've started"
Guy - "We'll figure it out" 😂😂😂
Such a typical Aussie laid back 'she'll be right mate' attitude that shows Guy hasn't lost his roots of growing up not a celebrity, but just a normal Aussie guy (pun intended).
The first time I was kind of zoned out and heard "Wolf figure it out" and giggled for the pun.
@@Skugg ✌😆
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Marcus Lundgren I’ve played it back 4 times and can’t tell what he said. Because he looks directly at wolf when he says that so I think he did say Wolf
@@Skugg same
So glad he broke the rules can't wait to hear more from the wolf.
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Yes,I glad too
Personally I'd love to hear him sing some Crash Test Dummies "Hmmmmmmm"
if it was a serious issue, they would have switched off the mics.
It's not live. So they probably kept them on and then decided what to do in post. Only the in-house audience would know.
Or maybe they chose to do it for transparency. Because technically, we shouldn't be able to hear the producer's mike anyhow.
@@gogakushayemi ayo there detective.... Either that or its scripted😁
It's crazy that people here are supporting Guy. He didn't think for a second and got the contestant's hopes up when he knew he wasn't allowed to. The producer and crew came up with an incredibly fair solution extremely quickly. If Kelly had to take him it would have set a truly awful precedent and not have been fair at all - even for the artist, imagine being on a team with a coach you KNOW didn't want you there!? The buttons should be disabled once a team is full imo
once the team is full there is no need for the coach to have his back turned again
those who have a full team in my opinion can enjoy the show as the public does.
in italy they do that.
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When it comes to the talent there are no rules should be applied.
Ike
I agree men
Shelby Stewart
There is no such thing as to be right or wrong. It is just a different view on the same subject.
@@estdeusinnobis8323 it's a show. There are rules. So, yes, you are wrong.
Whenever there a competition and prizes are involved, there has to be rules. Otherwise there will be complaints. People who do not want rules, could always just go and create their own records and sell. Nothing wrong with either way.
Guy showed his class that night. The artist comes first. The coaches ego driven need to win shouldn’t come before the artist. It’s not about the coach. It’s about the contestants.
WTF is wrong with you idiots? You can't just turn for everyone. That's not how it works. Jesus. So GD dumb! I can't.
Kelly. It's not about how many men or women you have, it's whether they can sing or not. Anyway I actually like what Guy did. The show would be crazy not to have someone like Wolf go through x
Bobo
may be u have list of song to give kelly 😂😂😂
She wants to win and she's strategizin. Maybe she didn't think he's that great.
I blame the producers. This show has many different versions across the globe. I don’t think this type of thing happened yet on the USA version…probably bc of some other strategies by the producers to ensure talented singers that go late in audition process have a spot. What Kelly did was consistent with what goes on all The Voice shows- coaches get picky as their teams fill up. Sometimes they opt not to choose singers of a certain genre; in this case Kelly claimed gender (I’m sure there was more to it than what she said aloud). I think Guy was trying to do the right thing. I get Kelly was strategizing her team as she has right to do under rules. I think this a screw-up on the producers’ part. Hope they learned from it and found a way to adjust for a situation like this in future seasons.
I’m thinking it might as something other then gender I bet
Imagine coming there, singing your song, not ACTUALLY get chosen and then the whole audience starts cheering for you! Must be really awesome! Respect for Guy!
I don't think he broke the rules! He is just being a coach, that he recognizes "TALENT", yes coz omg this is a singing competition after all. Why make it look so complicated tho.
Acknowledging doesnt require you to turn your chair, especially when you have a full team. Because in my opinion, it gives the contestant a false hope that their journey in that particular season will continue
Acknowledging doesn't require you to turn though. His team is literally full lmao.
ofcourse he broke the rules. he has a limited amount of spots on his team and he filled them. cannot come round later on and change the rules , he has agreed to at the beginning. it IS a talentshow, but it is also a SHOW, with a producer, who set the rules for this show. Guy is free is start his own show and set the rules accordingly
@@bartduynstee1577 tbf tho it was dealt fairly so I don't think its a huge issue. If they didn't come up with a plan like that then I'd say he broke the rules but the 3 way battle was pretty clever.
@@nialloshea4323 what you have to understand about this particular show, is all the participants have been screened before and can actually sing. unlike the "got talent" en "x-factor" -shows , where anybody can turn up and most are a disaster.
I'm with Guy, you can't let someone like this go just because your team is full. I'm almost sure it was set up my the production team though because I thought the judges chairs couldn't turn once the teams were full, it does make for great TV.
Yeah. They aren’t meant to be able to be turned.
Thats what I also thought!! The title is great for clickbait
Its set up. Its gotta be lol
That’s how it is in America. Might not have been like that in Australia
Why build rules intelligence into the chair when you can supposedly trust the coach to not press the button?
I thought that the chairs were deactivated once their teams were full. Him hitting it should have done nothing. I have seen coaches hit their buttons before and nothing happen once their teams are full. Something seems a bit fishy here, like they wanted the drama for ratings or something.
I've seen them try to hit their buttons before and it not work, this was staged.
Well yeah, did you see the way they advertised it, as if someone just blew up Australia
@@zakretsas8898 AHAHA IKR !! But I do have to say that with alotta reality shows they do that, like with I'm a celebrity get me outta here, when Mel left they made a kinda scene about it but like in a funny way, I love dr Chris and julia!!
In my country the chairs are disabled Ive seen them pushing th button many times when they want to turn but the chair wont move at all. Funny clips actually
@Dale Yow why do u think she was annoying?
3:50 The producer said that part of the philosophy of this show is that they put the artist 1st. So I’m glad they abided by that philosophy and let him stay!
I felt so bad for this guy. He was just there for the competition now he had to stand in that awkward position :(
I’m happy that he was allowed to go forward in the competition on Guy’s team. Pretty much everyone who auditions is incredibly talented so you have to stand out in some way to get a chair turn. I feel like he did that in spades. I felt the same as Guy I can’t believe that more didn’t turn for him. He has an amazing and unique voice.
The acting is so bad. Now I’m happy they all pursued music instead of acting
HAHAHAHAHA Couldnt agree more
100% spot on
What are u talking about? This is a singing competition, not acting.
@@mtvta1981 OMG can someone please explain??? The guy is a bit slow
Kelly had a point. She didn't turn for him because she didn't want to. Why make her look bad just because another coach really liked him? I'm glad she didn't choose him because she was dragged into it when she didn't do anything wrong.
Yeah but her reason that she wanted a woman just because is rubbish and discriminatory!
I mean she allegedly liked him and most importantly his voice, what it's all about...
So at least don't say anything about that then!...
yes, a discriminated one. This is a talent show, not a feminist one.
Its because she lacks the ability to coach beyond her own skillset which is also lacking. Kelly Rowland is an ok singer with a huge ego. She doesn't know how to coach someone with a real unique talent. That's ok. But she :looked: bad because it looks bad when you don't like someone because of what they have (or don't have) in then undergarments.
@@darkandstormymamaexcept, she said she had enough men on her team
But she isn’t looking for talent if you have to discriminate
I think you all forget this show isn't about the judges. This is about finding new talent! Nobody cares wich judge wins
ofcourse it does. they are all accomplished artists and if they coach an aspiring singer to a win, it makes them look good as well and that amounts to better sales of their own products
Honestly I forget about the judges most of the time lol. Like I get they have to coach them but just about all of them have talent anyways I mostly pay attention to them
I salute Guy Sebastian for breaking the rules and turn around even if his team was already complete... He appreciate the talent of the guy who do the audition 😁👋👋👋 Only an amazing person and intellegent judge can do that 😁😁😁 He did the right thing which is turning around coz the guy who do the audition was deserving 😁
Looking back on this season compared to 2021 - IT'S SO NEGATIVE AND TOXIC?!?! So glad they kept guy and got rid of the other coaches. People are tired of drama these days !!!! Rita, Jess, Keith and Guy respect each other so much more and that's what people enjoy watching.
I didn’t expect Kelly to be so upset when she bends the rules all the time to suit her artists. I’m at a loss for words
Imagine if a man said he just wasn’t looking for another woman on his team. Hell. To. Pay
_Exactly_ it’s such a double standard
Not if he already had a lot of women on his team. It wouldn't be a problem.
Yeah ive seen this a thousand times in the comments. You are imagining things that didnt even happen just to discredit an accomplished artists
many men have said that, if a coach has way more of one gender than the other in their team they usually try to even it out a little bit.... nice reach tho
@@teowachowski1143 Many men like who? You've seen this often or are you the one stretching? In person/in the music world it probably wouldn't have been a big deal. Online in the RUclips comments it's always a big deal
I feel sorry for anyone who thinks this is not staged.
Why should it be?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why people think that's all staged? Just don't get it...
@@clearstan1088 Must be nice to go about life with your level of delusion.
@@winterwolf8084 For real. You'll come across many deluded people on reality/competition show videos and forums.
Kelly, hypocritically, broke the rules last year. Guy was not trying to pick her team. He just didn't want this man to be eleminated simply because he's a man. The Voice is about showcasing *the voice,* not the gender of the voice.
So the right decision was made...and this definitely does *not* classify as a "scandal"
tgg
Exactly 👏👏👏
I'm not familiar with the voice, how did Kelly break them last year?
EloWorld11 I dunno
Not sure if this is right, but guessing people say she broke the rules last year cause of her team member who won. He was a looper. Did everything with his voice and he was fantastic. Not sure how else she broke rules.
I still think Guy should gave offered Kelly a free choice of any one of his female singers, and then kept Wolf on his team kit he wanted him that badly. Would have made the most sense!
I think that’s unfair on the singer as they potentially might’ve had the choice of guy and Kelly and went for guy. Then you’re forcing them to go on a team they didn’t want and earned the right to reject
In past seasons, they stayed turned around when they were full... so they could watch the rest of them
Yeah i thought this too! But over the recent past few seasons, they have their backs turned.
That's the way it is in Italy. In Ukraine they can turn their chair to watch or just stand up and look at the stage
That seems like a much better concept - especially for the person performing so they won't be looking at so many red-lit, back-turned chairs.
They should bring that back so that they can enjoy the talent. And if the future, figure out if they are worth the steal.
This guys name, looks, and voice is like from twilight. Literally a wolf.
Appreciated the producer. It proves that the management have some good heart there ❤️
Sometimes rules are made to be broken. Guy has the purest heart and didn't mean one bit of harm by this.
Why wasn't Guy's chair locked off so well, it won't turn - ever so simple!! -mmm was that staged? I did enjoy some contestants though, so talented!
Because this was scripted
Prolly staged
What does it mean by scripted? It was meant for Guy to turn?
In the US the chairs are locked when they are full which is the same way I thought was suppose to be for Australia.
@@Sara86A Well in past seasons, they stayed turned around when they were full. So it must've been
I have so much Respect for Guy doing this... the guy deserved a chair turn🥺👌🏼
Scripted drama. Simply the best
Guy is just making bad decisions.
Yess
Weird tho cuz I’ve seen a couple of blind auditions where the judges desperately press their buttons to no avail because their teams are full, but somehow he’s able to turn for this contestant?
Where’s the script tho?
On the Voice SA, one of the judges did that last year 😂
Great respect for Guy! Such voices need to be heared!🤟
Bruh wolf would be such a good actor for a villain in a movie
The contestant looks like a member of the Cullen family.
Looks like Emmet 🤪
Finally the comment i was looking for
I liked Kelly, but watching her judging and choosing people base on "gender" not on their talent makes her not fit to be on every voice show🥴🤦
My respect for Guy went to the roof!
His integrity was unshakable..
Well, I guess, it's time for them to change their rules 😂
Amazing, Guy! Keep it up. 👍🏼
Not really he put the artist in the position that he thought he was on a team only to find out technically he cant be. Guy should do what all coaches in that position do Tell the artist that their team was full so they couldn't turn but the artist was good.
His voice is deeper than the Mariana trench
Il just keep the likes to 69😋
I know rules are rules, but his voice is incredible. I got chills during his audition.
DID SHE JUST SAID SHE WANT MORE FEMALE? SO THIS IS NOT ABOUT VOICES, GOOD SINGER?
She biased. Shouldn’t be a judge if she has any sort of bias besides a specific singing style.
Pretty sure she’s looking for a female....voice. Just like pop artists look for pop and country look for country. What don’t you get?
She’s probably looking for more of a higher voice lol
Every artist has a specific voice they are looking for and she wants one more girl with a beautiful voice.. it's not about being biased it's about knowing exactly what you want.... I can't just take someone because they are available rather you take them because you want them.....jeez!..
She is a good coach and she will continue to be one of the best judges
Balance in all things
Yes, I agree that he DID NOT BREAK ANY OR ALL THE RULES!!! The actual executive director of the show right there stated that the performers and the performance COMES FIRST!!!! Thank you!
Is it just me or KELLY IS SAYING NO BECAUSE OF GENDER? " NOT ENOUGH FEMALES"
Yes I agree
Kelly being Sexist, but George said Kelly changed the rules the year before ?
William in the UK 🇬🇧 foes what he likes
There's nothing wrong with Kelly wanting one more female singer for her team. How's that being sexist? that's just what she's specifically looking for. At that stage in the competition when you only need one more vocalist added to your team, of course you're going to be picky.
@@ryancr9641 it’s about the voice not gender
@@orangesodasipper yes it is about the voice obviously but Kelly wanted a female singer for her last spot on her team. I literally see nothing wrong with that. If I was a judge on the voice and looking for one last spot I'd be picky too.
As far as I observed the voice Philippines did the same thing.. They have like 3 persons in the battle round.. But the coach will pick one only..
How will battle go with 3??It's tough.......
Syed Tazrian Ahmed Shampricto It’s what they do in all Voice Kids shows around the wolrd
same in Germany it's normal to have 3 people in the battle
Those are knockouts, there are 3 people in knockouts then 2 in battles
Been watching loads of these clips and the lack of connection between Guy and Kelly astounds me.. She is in his face a lot and he gets awkward and looking uncomfortable.. Don't know why this is a problem.. Have a battle between 3 people.. He's very good and deserved a spot right away
Tbh this problem could've been avoided if they had something like a Comeback Stage in the US version. With the amount of good singers this year, I'm surprised that they didn't consider it. Get some cheap Australian 'celebrity' to oversee it and there you go.
kelly needs to go back to the US
I thought it was called the voice Kelly is looking for pesific artists they might need to change a few things not fair on the gent standing there wondering what I has happened
She's a man hater misandrist. Didn't you hear her comment "I wanted a woman".
@@JohnSmith-zo6ir But she got a great woman!!
Perfect. Thanks to everyone who gave this guy a chance.
I love Guy- he’s amazing and he just saw raw and pure talent.
Is the show called "The Voice" or "The Rules". You're looking for talent to make money and we're looking for amazing singers. Recognize good talent!
Bro this ain't cheating he was just trying to complement the mans singing by turning around
I totally agree with you
Yeah, it's not cheating, but he shouldn't of done it
A judge can’t turn when their team is full. Cheating, technically. However, this was obviously staged.
BeachNanny when he turned around he had a surprised look on his face. I wonder if he didn’t think his chair would turn but when it did it surprised him. I dunno just a thought I had.
Good on Kelly for standing her ground and not allowing somebody else's "passion" make her into the bad guy but staying professional.
"i wanted a female" very professional
Exactly!!!
Professional sexist it's all the same thing now
Who cares about kelly. She always worrying bout looks more than truth.. maybe the worst judge to ever be on the voice
Delta is so sweet. When she says: well, we, we cant break his heart, I loved that part.
And when Kelly goes over and looks at guy:
Me: HAHAHA
The coaches are so funny when they say stuff, like when Boy says: he’s gonna rewrite the rules, like Kelly did last year, and why cant I have one? Fine I’ll have two. Maybe three.
funny how people reacts. i think this was done to improve their rating.
I agree. Cos honestly, just my opinion, his voice was not worth the drama.
Guy is my man. He basically had an eye for a talent like this. A true artist.
Umm. I think you mean ' Ear ' for the talent. This is The Voice.
I adore this man’s voice. Absolutely amazing
"He has to lose 2? I think that's great!"
Lol, Kelly.
can someone tell kelly to stop yelling at everyone? remember last year when she made denzel sing an original and she bragged about how she's breaking the rules? now when someone else just wants to push their button she acts like she's sitting in front of steve smith. like, can you calm down and stop yelling at people? ur not exactly innocent either. mad respect to Guy for standing his ground and sticking by his decision, despite having a massive bowtie yell at him left and right just because he pressed a button.
I really don't like her as a judge. She's getting to annoying
Kelly is the one that’s going to have to have be his coach not Guy so she has every right to be upset.
@@r.i.3073 ok but she can express her feelings in any other way. she doesn't have to go up to guy and yell at his face like that
Stop blaming kelly duhhh.
@@r.i.3073 Nobody actually forced her to take him on her team, the executive producer politely asked her if she wanted him. Maybe she felt uncomfortable at that moment as she didn't want to say "I don't want you on my team" in front of the contestant's face... But at the end she didn't take him, Guy did who actually wanted him
They should have disabled Guy's ability to turn his chair just like they can disable the judges' mics during a performance.
U seriously think it's not staged
We all saw it coming. They now have turned the voice into such a dramatic show ffs. Ngl it was a boss move. UK the voice was ok but I feel sorry for her they were pressuring her
Solution: I think that there should be an “Appreciation” button for coaches to push that indicates if my team wasn’t already full I would take you.
Now if he would have won it, that would have been a crazy story to tell!