4WD Power Wheels Go Kart gets New Suspension + Gearing! 228cc Ford Bronco Build
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- Опубликовано: 24 янв 2021
- We're getting close to completing our Tillotson 228cc powered 4WD power wheels go kart! In today's episode, we change the final drive gear from top speed to more acceleration. We also change the shocks, stiffening them up for a firmer and more controllable ride. We'll be painting this project soon, and it'll be complete!
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John :“We never claimed to be experts”
‘Isaac walks past with a burning log’ “excuse me”
I love it.
this is why i tune in every episode
That extra large hub almost looks the same diameter as the drum brake you installed. Almost like it want's to be the brake itself :D
This guy is right on!🙌
With a simple jig and a drill press you could relatively accurately drill large holes in the hub to lighten it
I wonder if you drilled large holes through the side of the hub and small holes in the OD (braking surface) if it would aid in cooling like a drilled brake rotor
LOL I was just watching the video and was about to say the same thing until I read your message that Hub size is damn near the size of that brake
@@Toolingabout yes you can cross drill holes on the braking surface of the drum to help cool it, it also gives the water somewhere to go to help prevent brake fade. I have cross drilled drums for older from drum brake cars in the past just for this reason. Just don't get carried away with to many holes lol.
Rock crawlers are supposed to have a soft suspension, helps keep the tires planted when crawling. Great build. Enjoy watching
I would put 2 more layers of padding and the red Bubba shocks on the back, then paint the frame!
Yep, Ike's fat a$$ requires it. Additionally, I am sure they weigh more than the engine/etc. in the front thus the need for a more aggressive spring in the rear to actually have a level ride height vice the squat they now have.
You guys are almost to 1 million subs. That's freaking awesome!
I love these power wheels builds, maybe you can put the steering forward on the other side of that bar and go through the engine plate to make a little more room?
one of these days they'll learn to stop putting the steering between their knees
2:28 was probably me sending another snapchat of a Honda ATC 😂😂
You could change the rear suspension "stiffness" by standing the rear shocks up more vertical. I might also help the roll
you know they are cool dudes when they cant resist a test ride even in freezing rain
Love watching you should test putting red shocks in the back as you weigh more than the engine so it will then all react smoother and potentially keep that wheel down
9:16 "This is glue. Strong stuff." Can't help myself :)
Ok Elwood 😎
Change out the spring and weights in torque converter for more rpm and harder launches
THIS!!! That engine RPM should be higher! needs heavier weights in the primary!
Ike: Runs log outside
Ike: sneaks out with axe
Ike: KIYAAH!
John: The fuck?
I was rolling on the floor laughing and still re-watch this part i am loosing the plot over here in New zealand
Its know wonder the rear is soft with them shocks so layed down, you would have to have twice as much spring to make it as stiff as a shock standing up.
I’ve always wondered why the rear shocks are at such a steep angle, it essentially defeats the spring, placing it closer to straight up and down would make it not sag as much and allow the springs and shocks to do their jobs more effectively.
When you are changing gearing. Changing the small sprocket in the equation has a greater effect than changing the large one. Example, if you have a 12 tooth clutch and a 60 tooth wheel, you will get a 5 times the change adding or removing one tooth to the clutch versus adding or removing one tooth to the wheel.
They can't even do the simple math to figure out the ratio,I think what your telling them may be above their ability
Uhh, no. It’s not 5 times the change. Yes a tooth difference on the smaller gear will have more of an effect than a tooth on the larger gear but no where near 5 times.
The gear ratio is calculated by dividing the number of teeth of the driving gear by the number of teeth of the driven gear. Doesn’t matter which is changed, it’s always that formula to calculate the change.
grind hard plumbing co lengthened there Barbie jeep and it looks great. so did rather b welding. it would make Ike look less like king Kong in the bronco.
They have also
Defeats their original objective of going for the smallest unit, which it looks like they've achieved rather well.
U gotta lengthen this thing about 4 inches
I would 6 - 8 inches .
@@dalesakawsky7309 thats a good idea, but I don't think the body would look right
@@lowryder3209 - Screw the body at this point.
@@lowryder3209 Just like a limo just do it , easy to make body panels .
If they'd just cut off the "tailgate", they could scoot back 3 or 4 inches before it started doing wheelies, lol.
Always love watching the channel. Can't wait for the next one!
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Black shocks on front like you have done and put the red shocks on the back. It will work better. Keep safe guys and hope everyone is well..
The suspension looks perfect
You guys should try to find a Honda Odyssey fl 250.
I love this build! But I really feel like it desperately needs another 8-12" of length. I know Ike would sure appreciate it
Just some outboard footpegs would make a big difference.
But right now they can lay claim to having the smallest four wheel drive Power Wheels go kart build on You Tube. plus they are trying to keep the power to weigh ratio as good as they can. I can say for them but would be a guess.
@@harryrenner4016 Yeah if they are trying to hold the record for the smallest then I guess it makes sense
Just some tasteful fender flares on the body and I think it looks like a bunch of fun.
its the angle of the rears that make it softer..
I love to watch all of these projects
A split tooth sprocket would save sooooo much time!
Yeah, and they've used em 20 times on other builds.
So close to 1 million subs!!! Keep it up! I've been watching for nearly 5 years, and loved every video!
Yuppp I'm convinced I need to build a power wheels Kart. 🤘
Thing is awesome!! Looks like it shaping up nicely...
that's a sweet little thing, looks like a lot fun driving in mud, I love power wheels, keep it up guys.
Thats an awesome build!!!
The new gearing seems just right! I'd be curious to see how it would perform on some slicks 🤔
That comparison will be awesome. The original four engine 4-wheel drive build is the reason I came to your Channel and have been a subscriber ever since.
I'm going to keep saying it. Good Job, I like that you kept the factory wheelbase. I hope you are going to fully weld the double tube frame. 👍🏼👍🏼
Man id love to come see you guys and all the stuff you've built!
me too!
Maybe someday, after the pandemic, they could have an Open House! They got room there for a couple hundred cars, lol.
@@donellmuniz590 and a couple hundred cameras!
THE CROSS CART IS MAKING A COME BACK. i will say that with that new engine, suspension, and the rest of stuff it will absolutely smoke the trophy kart😤
This thing is a little beast!!!
I think you guy should weld on some mounts on the gas tank for a racing seat instead of a camping pad. Put some memory foam on top of the camping pad with a piece of vinil over top of it. You need a better carburator. That one bogs out. Testing is just part of working out the bugs. If you lenghten the steering shaft longer, you two could easily steer it better with out hitting your knees and legs. Good video! 😁👍 Don't be mad at me. I was just sugesting.
Great job guys!
That 3lbs really throws off all that other weight youve got packed on there 🤣🤣🤣
thinking the same thing here lol
Thing has more rotating mass than my car
It's because it's rotating mass then it "heavier" than it just being on the cart. If that makes sense
@@tomward7518 i believe the equation is 1lb of rotational weight is equal to 10lbs of static weight
It's a good thing y'all lengthened that little Bronco. :-P Drop the front end in a big hole and me thinks you will do a forward flip. Forward flips with machines are not fun; I've had experience with that.
Almost a million can't wait
I want that....kool build
RJ
Excited to see the showdown 😄
That thing is pretty awesome
You guys and Vice Grip Garage are my favorite wrenching channels.
My 2 faves also.
Sway bar on that front would fix your lean- I'd move the wheel out and up- and put a hydraulic brake of some sort... what a project gents!
Would love to see that in the snow...put that AWD to work
Drill some holes in that heavy hub.
Glue a second layer of padding too
What heavy tub?
@@donellmuniz590 hub
Been watch you guys for years love your videos
I thought some of y’all would appreciate this I’m welding a walk behind tiller to the back of a four wheeler and welding four wheeler hubs to the plows so I’m building a new four wheeler
Ive got a 4 4cyl 4 wheeler dirt dragster . with 25" skatvtrack rippers. On the back . it can till the garden
...lol
Nice job guys
You could always double your foam! Looks great y’all
John almost looks like a French mountain man in that knit hat and beard.
I thought the same thing. Like a French Canadian fur trapper.
Jesus i remember when you were building the 4 engine kart has it been that long. Honestly think the 4 engine will win. Its a bit of a beast.
"Rock the Shock" Another motto! 👍
The shocks of the same length should have the same travel, its just the stiffness and rebound that should change.
this is so sick
I can’t wait till the summer and it’s dry so they can set some real lap times with all the new projects.
Hi Isaac and John I love your machines
Looks like it’s geared better now. 👍
15:30 I love it when a plan comes together lol - A-Team!!!
It would be so cool to double the crome shocks.👍🏼👍🏼
That “HIII YA” from Ike was hilarious
Lengthen the steering shaft and install the steering wheel taller. It will clear your knees a lot better and maybe Isaac will be able to drive it.
Get one of those old school square boat pad/life preservers. They are about 2” thick and make a good seat padding for this type of thing....
Looks like it rides like a Cadillac 😁👍
that Fast and Furious ref tho :-)
I bought one of the hoodies and I have to say they are amazing.
It looks like that front end got real light at speed
a rear sway bar will do wonders to reduce understeer and maybe it will let it kick out a little easier, looks really sweet and keep up the good work
Love it!!
Its 10pm in Germany
PPS Love your vids
Love you guys!
Don't forget to put your other 2 lug nuts back on 19:10 . Nice improvements guys!
Red in the back for sure
I mess around like you guys do in my shop. I am not an expert but my observation on the Bronco being too soft is that your rear shocks are layed down “way” too low. As your suspension compresses the rear shocks loose their leverage and spring rate is decreased
alot! Please raise the top mount. You may have to also move the lower one twords the swing arm pivot to retain your ride height.
I never write comments.
I love your show to watch when my shop is too cold to work in.
Keep the vids coming 😎
Nice wood stove 🔥
Isaac are you gaining weight brother man? Or is it that Paul Bunyan Beard playing tricks lmao 😂😆
Looks like both, which to me are both good things. Lol.
There's a reason it's called a "Middle Age Spread". I had mine by age 22! 🤣 Precocious youth, a quick study!
Too bad you couldn't whip off sprockets on your plasma table. Working a lot better with that gearing. 👍
If you move the rear upper shock mounts further up the chassis, closer to the fuel tank, it will also stiffen up and give you more articulation. You want a resting positive rake so it’s somewhat level while one of you are riding.
You connected the drum break backwards. If the solid mounting point is on the bottom and the cable is on the top the The friction when applying the brake will tend to pull the band towards your cable assisting in the break action. With the cable on the bottom the friction pulls against your cable trying to open the band up fighting Against the braking action.
I think if you turn down the huge hub in a lathe it would make for a good video. I know I'd enjoy it.
nice!!!!!!!
Super cool build! as always I will stay tuned because I’d like to see where it goes, that being said I have to say I’m a little disappointed that Isaac can’t participate much because of size. Maybe next time find a size that’s a happy medium between the both of you. Looking forward to all the builds and shenanigans!
Im good with it. Its easy to park small things for storage but big things take up more space
Way cool.
rad
Put the drum brake on the sprocket, has enough metal for it! Ever though of using old valve springs under seat? So bend the angle of steering wheel to get taller angle.
Sway bar could help w body roll and keep the suspension pretty soft. Maybe one for a quad would work. Then detach the ends for rock crawling.
im currently disassembling a briggs lawnmower engine, going to swap it in my moped, struggling to pull the flywheel tho. love your videos!
. if you have a impact . use it to pull the flywheel nut. .. If not. Remove the spark plug . and push some rope into the spark plug hole . .. _( so the rope jams between the piston and cylinder head ). This shoukd let you . Remove the flywheel nut with a ratchet. . then if you donot have one I. Reccomend getting a 2-3 jaw puller large enough to remove the flywheel. . the wrong way to do it with out a puller. Is risky. As it involves runni g tge flywheel nut flush with the crank shaft end and prying up on the flywheel with a couple flat bars while tapping on the flywhel nut with a hammer. ( if u hit it hard you can mess up the crank shaft. . if the nut is not threaded on to protect the threads from the hammer. You'll mist likley mess them up... ) why a puller is best.
I find a memory foam mattress topper makes a great seat. Found one at salvage store. Can do lots, idk 20 seats.
How have you guys not hit 1m subscribers yet?!
That thing is BA 🤘🤘 YEE YEE
You can put a brake off the CVT, great vids!!
Diggin on da fro jon.
I wonder if the frame twisted with the rear axle arms attaching to the center crooked
That thing looks like it wpuld be so fun to rip around
Nice
It sure would be sweet to be able to disengage 4x4