450+ HP Electric Power Wheels Tank Build! Our Wildest Project Yet!

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  • Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
  • Yes it is real! A 479HP Power Wheels tank. This will be the world's fastest and most capable Power Wheels build ever! Powered by two salvaged Nissan Leaf Motors and a battery pack from a Ford plug in hybrid. This is our first serious EV swap and we are so excited. This is basically going to be a miniature ripsaw tank from top gear. Full suspension and all! This is our first electric off road go kart build and it is going to be insane!
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  • @GrindHardPlumbingCo
    @GrindHardPlumbingCo  3 года назад +261

    What do you guys think of the new build? Last day to enter the giveaway! www.grindhardplumbingco.com/

    • @that_red_dentside3968
      @that_red_dentside3968 3 года назад +4

      It sounds sickk

    • @the_troublemakers9832
      @the_troublemakers9832 3 года назад +2

      Love your vids

    • @Economan66
      @Economan66 3 года назад +1

      Yooo m8 that’s too cool

    • @michaelbiel7473
      @michaelbiel7473 3 года назад

      You should take a launcher of a assult rifle and mount it on that tank it would be sick af

    • @DrivingCrooner2000
      @DrivingCrooner2000 3 года назад +3

      You could run the AC compressor off of the electric cars for compressed air for whatever gun u add.

  • @andrewjones6108
    @andrewjones6108 8 месяцев назад +62

    BRING THIS BUILD BACK! WE"RE ALL DYING FOR IT!!

  • @timleonard9762
    @timleonard9762 3 года назад +323

    Man, I hope this project hasn’t been forgotten, I was pretty pumped on the idea of an electric tank power wheel.

    • @dylonpassmore4859
      @dylonpassmore4859 2 года назад +4

      Probably saving it for the winter

    • @2ndlt.sadness67
      @2ndlt.sadness67 2 года назад +2

      Same

    • @maihhel3721
      @maihhel3721 2 года назад +5

      @@dylonpassmore4859 i mean it's kinda winter now.... in finland atleast

    • @ahveliini98
      @ahveliini98 2 года назад +1

      @@maihhel3721 indeed it is... -15 degrees and the cold archipelago wind, oh yes so much fun.... southwest finland is fun

    • @maihhel3721
      @maihhel3721 2 года назад +1

      @@ahveliini98 melkee -30 raja menny rikki pieksämäellä taitaa paras olla tähä mennessä -28 tai 29

  • @MrOmarchingon
    @MrOmarchingon 3 года назад +172

    I'm a mechanical engineer and I love how you guys just dive into a project and figure it out as you go. I'm excited for this build

    • @codycall6513
      @codycall6513 3 года назад +1

      Hah! Did you catch a mechanic sleeping with your wife? Because I swear you guys have it out for us.
      Every day we joke about finding the guy that designed cars, trucks, rvs, and just slapping them upside the head. Lol

    • @codycall6513
      @codycall6513 3 года назад +1

      At least GHPC thinks about disassembly when their building it.

    • @jacobrice3242
      @jacobrice3242 3 года назад +1

      What does being an me have to do with it

    • @broughttoideas
      @broughttoideas 3 года назад +1

      Thats not something id tell people lol you know were just kidding but alot of engineers are pretty dumb in the real world lol

    • @kalebtoller4997
      @kalebtoller4997 3 года назад +1

      @@codycall6513 Blame the bean counters lol

  • @michaelbennett9824
    @michaelbennett9824 6 месяцев назад +9

    I wish y’all would bring this build back .
    I really want to see it in action it would be amazing.
    Y’all guys are awesome and so intelligent and knowledgeable with the builds. LOVE WATCHING YOU GUYS

  • @Darkrider8893
    @Darkrider8893 2 года назад +68

    I really hope thus project gets revived. This is an amazing idea, that would be great to see completed

  • @Dan_Kornfeld
    @Dan_Kornfeld 3 года назад +51

    Absolutely insane - perfect! There’s no need for a gas pedal, just two hand throttles - one for each track. Keep doing what you do!

    • @snowjohn1298
      @snowjohn1298 3 года назад +2

      Yeah hand throttles makes more sense

    • @metalengineer5036
      @metalengineer5036 3 года назад

      Love your work, truly inspiring to my generation

    • @FixItStig
      @FixItStig 3 года назад +3

      Or foot throttles

    • @ozokyn
      @ozokyn 3 года назад +1

      @@FixItStig ... yeah foot throttles sound legit and with the hands he can operate the handcannon.

    • @Longdrivedad
      @Longdrivedad 3 года назад

      I was thinking the same thing. Just a pedal or hand lever with a forward and reverse for each track.

  • @evanwilliford2606
    @evanwilliford2606 3 года назад +288

    What happened to this build? I’ve not seen anything else about the ev tank. I was looking forward to progress vids! You guys are awesome btw!

    • @stoneybaloni3130
      @stoneybaloni3130 2 года назад +9

      Yeah what happened

    • @igoors2159
      @igoors2159 2 года назад +8

      Yeah. What happened??

    • @graybearsgarage1223
      @graybearsgarage1223 2 года назад +6

      I also would like to know! I was looking forward to this build and then nothing...

    • @claypetersen1430
      @claypetersen1430 2 года назад +24

      @@graybearsgarage1223 they had bad info on the motor/battery combo so the stuff they had wouldn’t work together. But In the last video they said they figured out a battery so hopefully they start again soon

    • @NolanGerald
      @NolanGerald 2 года назад +3

      @@claypetersen1430 Thanks for the clarification! Do you know which video in particular they said this?

  • @austiwawa
    @austiwawa 3 года назад +220

    This is WILD!

    • @jeremyperraud1357
      @jeremyperraud1357 3 года назад +4

      your tesla did some insane speed drift

    • @sheanyquist
      @sheanyquist 3 года назад +7

      Definitely an ambitious build. I'm sure there's gonna be some broken parts along the way

    • @GrindHardPlumbingCo
      @GrindHardPlumbingCo  3 года назад +17

      It is going to be full insanity

    • @davidlambert4281
      @davidlambert4281 3 года назад +3

      @@GrindHardPlumbingCo do a Barbie van and put the engine in the back

    • @gapininja
      @gapininja 3 года назад

      @@jeremyperraud1357 well it was clickbait

  • @Legacy4x4andOffRoadYT
    @Legacy4x4andOffRoadYT 3 года назад +135

    Can we just take a moment to appreciate the growth of not only the channel but the extent of the builds as well over the last few years. You guys rock!

    • @cmaxbuilds643
      @cmaxbuilds643 9 месяцев назад

      I hope we someday get to see this thing finished

  • @kidscar6514
    @kidscar6514 2 года назад +24

    What even happened to this one

  • @rhyswilliams9138
    @rhyswilliams9138 3 года назад +142

    This is going to be INSANE!!! Cannot wait to see this develop 👍🏻

  • @Masn157
    @Masn157 3 года назад +41

    The second I saw the cop car chase I knew that this was going to be a KILLER project. Going from watching y'all turn a BMW into a truck for Gambler, to building a rotary trike, and now an ELECTRIC TANK, I can confidently say this channel will never stop blowing my mind.

    • @harryrenner4016
      @harryrenner4016 3 года назад +3

      I was thinking it would be cool to get pulled over by the GHPC cop car. this just came to my mind as I texting this GHPC stands for. Grind-hard * Highway * Patrol * Car. there's no doubt that they will succeed in building an AWESOME tank. after all they built Colonel Sender's. the most AWESOME build on the internet to date.

  • @joshburling8988
    @joshburling8988 3 года назад +3

    Majority of actual road vehicles don't even make 450 HP stock. And yall are putting 450 HP on a plastic tank power wheels. You guys are Absolute madmen. This is Complete insanity. I love it

  • @jordanklein3975
    @jordanklein3975 2 года назад +1

    Has this been forgotten about guys we need more!

  • @ryanryan3473
    @ryanryan3473 3 года назад +45

    I didn’t think a man in his 30’s could get this excited...yet here I am...this excited!

  • @brettfrashier7292
    @brettfrashier7292 3 года назад +17

    I follow a lot of channels. Probably 50 or so. GHPco is one of like 3 that I get legitimately excited for when a video drops. Keep it up guys!

  • @brandonleuchtag8022
    @brandonleuchtag8022 3 года назад +31

    When I thought things couldn't get any better. You bring this to the table

  • @GadgetAddict
    @GadgetAddict 3 года назад +141

    I’m looking at that tiny thing and then hearing you casually describe how you’re going to stuff ALL THAT STUFF into the tiny body lol
    But I know you can do it, you’ve worked miracles several times already.

    • @Jacobtheunwise
      @Jacobtheunwise 3 года назад +7

      Im super curious to see how they fit all that stuff. An even if they do where are they going to sit lol

    • @GrindHardPlumbingCo
      @GrindHardPlumbingCo  3 года назад +18

      It will happen for sure!

    • @gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298
      @gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298 3 года назад +2

      What I can't believe is that tiny little motor weighs 128lbs! What the hell is it made out of, tungsten?!

    • @Jacobtheunwise
      @Jacobtheunwise 3 года назад +4

      @@gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298 a shitload of copper

    • @spotthedogg
      @spotthedogg 3 года назад

      It doesn’t need to fit in it, the body is just the dressing on top 😏

  • @johnathonteets9549
    @johnathonteets9549 3 года назад +2

    Been impatiently checking your page since this video was uploaded to see for updates. Can't wait to see the final build

    • @that_frog_kurtis
      @that_frog_kurtis 3 года назад +1

      Sure feels like it might have been clickbait now lol

  • @LevisLifts
    @LevisLifts 3 года назад +35

    Can’t wait to see you SEND IT! 😂
    Edit: and once it’s finished you should definitely reshoot the chase scene 😂

  • @jordanhorst6
    @jordanhorst6 3 года назад +17

    Edwin's editing skills keep leveling up! 🎥

  • @anthonyzelis814
    @anthonyzelis814 3 года назад +27

    One minute ago?!? Wow I feel honored

  • @smorgan4767
    @smorgan4767 3 года назад +7

    Where is part two

  • @zweihammerheavyind.2911
    @zweihammerheavyind.2911 3 года назад +1

    I think your drive to one-up yourselves so aggressively is quickly becoming exponential. You’re so far ahead of the curve, you’re hyperbolic.
    Never change.

    • @lj516
      @lj516 3 года назад +1

      Math Nerd Humor! I love it!

  • @DjSubstain
    @DjSubstain 3 года назад +12

    Hit up Colin Furze, he might have an idea for the canon.
    Just look at the screw tank he built.

    • @zogworth
      @zogworth 3 года назад +3

      Can get away with a lot more stuff in the states. Using a pumpkin chunkin style gas cannon would work fine.

    • @Stratos53100
      @Stratos53100 3 года назад +2

      @ FredrikLund Yeah Good reference, Colin is a crazy genius, the stuff he builds is over the top bat sh---- nuts.

    • @DjSubstain
      @DjSubstain 3 года назад

      @@Stratos53100 Yeah, Colin makes some crazy shit alright. Holds a few world records as well.

  • @robertwick4948
    @robertwick4948 3 года назад +14

    This is a wild idea! Great work boys!

  • @desmondmoonbear8149
    @desmondmoonbear8149 3 года назад +8

    honestly, you guys need a full roll bar 450+ horsepower sound like a lot

    • @allinaday3526
      @allinaday3526 3 года назад

      It is! Thats more power then most cars on the road!

  • @jimmycreek
    @jimmycreek 3 года назад +1

    This is awesome. Potentially get an old fire extinguisher and many electric mini compressors to power a airsoft gun and golf ball cannon.

  • @walker1474
    @walker1474 3 года назад +1

    Use one of the tee-shirt launchers they shoot at crowds of people during sporting events for your cannon and that would be epic 😎👍

  • @C0MR4D3C0WB0Y
    @C0MR4D3C0WB0Y 3 года назад +22

    I love the fact that you’re converting it to tracks! It’s gonna be awesome! Steering is gonna be a fun episode though...

    • @ianbuilds7712
      @ianbuilds7712 3 года назад +7

      what makes it so much easier than your average tracked vehicle is no drivetrain will be needed just a brake on each motor and even that can be done with the motor controller... each motor can be controlled seprately it will have very tank-like steering (even "0 turn") but with none of the mechanical hoopla an engine that only turns one way would need..

    • @lj516
      @lj516 3 года назад

      @@ianbuilds7712 You called it! Steering won't be until mid May though!

    • @ianbuilds7712
      @ianbuilds7712 3 года назад +2

      @@lj516 no good thing comes quick... im stuggling not to say it... THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!! Dammit i said it

    • @trillrifaxegrindor4411
      @trillrifaxegrindor4411 3 года назад

      two handles,like a skid steer or tank is THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT JUSTICE

    • @ianbuilds7712
      @ianbuilds7712 3 года назад

      @@trillrifaxegrindor4411 yup... that is what we were discussing a month ago... sr tardie to the partie.

  • @mrnautilus
    @mrnautilus 3 года назад +34

    Your welders were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, that they didn't stop and think if they should.

    • @maihhel3721
      @maihhel3721 2 года назад

      They weld everything themselfs

  • @megoingfast
    @megoingfast 3 года назад +5

    The setup for the build with the police car chase makes me know this is going to be another boss build!

  • @Dragoninja833
    @Dragoninja833 2 года назад +14

    Give us a part 2 or admit defeat so we aren't left hoping.
    You guys rock! Keep up the great work!v

  • @nathanwilson6670
    @nathanwilson6670 3 года назад +1

    As an electrical engineer who likes to tinker, I can fully appreciate this build. Looking forward to seeing this come together.

  • @dabbgk
    @dabbgk 3 года назад +11

    Seen this tank at Walmart the other day and was thinking about y’all 😂

  • @chadscatharsis3287
    @chadscatharsis3287 3 года назад +4

    Man you boys got one HELLUVA engineering challenge ahead of you. And if ANYBODY can do it, ya'll can!! And i cant wait to watch it unfold and come alive!! Good luck and have fun!!

  • @ccright8285
    @ccright8285 3 года назад +10

    At this point, I'm just like "huh?" Lol and proceed to click and watch.

  • @vespizzari
    @vespizzari 3 года назад

    I LOVE it! For the record I'm the guy who tried to get you connected to with Zero motorcycles when I worked there. EV's will change your life boys. Get ready!

  • @devinmallory1313
    @devinmallory1313 Год назад +1

    Man I hope this is not forgotten

  • @cartershanks7549
    @cartershanks7549 3 года назад +42

    “And please put the grenade launcher down”😂😂😂

  • @christopherwedemeyer2993
    @christopherwedemeyer2993 3 года назад +10

    T shirt canon. You know, for new merch launches...
    And please; please, please, please put tracks on it.

  • @drewgraff7748
    @drewgraff7748 3 года назад +13

    Okay these power wheels have escalated way quickly 😂

  • @rhoonah5849
    @rhoonah5849 2 года назад +1

    You guys have the best job in the world and you do it amazingly.

  • @patriciarobinson7017
    @patriciarobinson7017 2 года назад +1

    THATS VERY ASOME AND AMZING HOW FAST IT IS NOW

  • @theirishaxe9405
    @theirishaxe9405 3 года назад +3

    I totally wish you guys would finish one or two projects before starting another it's too much in my brain! 👍🤙

  • @SilentScreamer413
    @SilentScreamer413 2 года назад +10

    Hey guys! What's the progress on this one? Can't wait to see it further down the completion road!

  • @nicotietjen1468
    @nicotietjen1468 3 года назад +3

    this is the only electric "vehicle" proyect i'm really excited about!!😍

  • @codykahn2173
    @codykahn2173 3 года назад +1

    The snow scooter needs to become a moped!!

  • @thcaudio2855
    @thcaudio2855 8 месяцев назад +2

    Guys where is this thing. did I miss something, but I've been looking to the follow up vids to this tank. is it a forgotten project? keep up the amazing work.

  • @jimmybrown788
    @jimmybrown788 2 года назад +4

    When are you guys gunna return to this build was looking forward to seeing it at its finished state hope you guys find time to finish this for sure

    • @jimmybrown788
      @jimmybrown788 2 года назад +2

      And I think the machine gun should be replaced with a paintball gun

  • @daniellanham459
    @daniellanham459 3 года назад +7

    FINALLY I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS BUILD

  • @vkrazy4568
    @vkrazy4568 3 года назад +4

    KEEP WORKING ON THE TANK WERES PART 2 🥺

  • @jetmorran7858
    @jetmorran7858 3 года назад

    Actual tracks are MANDATORY

  • @sherriemoon703
    @sherriemoon703 3 года назад

    This is one of only 2 channels I still enjoy. I used to follow more people than I can name but now this and vinwikki are the only channels that put out content that a sane person can enjoy

  • @600wheel
    @600wheel 3 года назад +6

    You guys never cease to amaze me I don’t have any words for this other than thank you I cannot wait

  • @SeanHodgins
    @SeanHodgins 3 года назад +7

    This is insane.

  • @seansysig
    @seansysig 3 года назад +21

    Wait a minute GHP is building a potato shooting hauling ass electric tank. Oh shit can't wait for the laughs to continue after that opening scene antics.

    • @harryrenner4016
      @harryrenner4016 3 года назад +2

      I have no doubt they'll succeed in building an AWESOME tank. after all they built Colonel Sender's. the most AWESOME build on the internet to date.

  • @TripleXclown
    @TripleXclown 3 года назад

    I've mentioned there was a tank in the past.. blown away by this!!

  • @MrSnowlver
    @MrSnowlver 3 года назад

    Love the new build. We had a traxked tank and RPGs for paintball that shot mini nerf footballs. Tank had air cannon. Have tips/tricks for air or co2 cannons if needed.

  • @jamesharrypidwell5109
    @jamesharrypidwell5109 2 года назад +3

    Yo, when’s this build happening?!

  • @ChrisSandtSmith
    @ChrisSandtSmith Год назад +3

    Where's the rest?

  • @dailyvibes_2463
    @dailyvibes_2463 2 года назад +3

    What happened to that build?

  • @justinfacer621
    @justinfacer621 9 месяцев назад

    Dang lets revive this project, it looked awesome!

  • @NeoIsrafil
    @NeoIsrafil 3 года назад

    That tank honestly started better than any power wheels ive seen before... Like...out of the box. Kinda impressive to be honest. I cant WAIT to see the finished product of course....

  • @thatguy168
    @thatguy168 10 месяцев назад +3

    Come on guuuuuuuuys! What happened to this?!

  • @alpha434
    @alpha434 Год назад +3

    Lol. This didn't get far.

  • @archangelspythons
    @archangelspythons 3 года назад

    I'd love to see a new shop built. Nothing stupid big but you guys both need and deserve it

  • @alexrands2580
    @alexrands2580 3 года назад +1

    Didn't read all 1600 replies(so far), but did anyone else catch the irony of Ethan talking about a functional cannon with his fly down?
    Stoked for the build dudes!

  • @reprieverc
    @reprieverc 3 года назад +1

    You guys are hands down my favorite to watch. Thank you for being on RUclips lol I so wanna build something like these builds and thrash with y'all!

  • @stoopydh4878
    @stoopydh4878 3 года назад

    I love how over the years it has been more and more advanced. It started with two-stroke and carbs and moved on to 4wd, ECUs, turbo and now electric.

  • @1legOVERCOMER
    @1legOVERCOMER 6 месяцев назад

    I've been waiting on this for 2 years ? What happened guys ? I am so excited to see these build ? Please tell me your going to do this 🙏. You guys are kick azz men I love the channel. God bless

  • @thomaswood4812
    @thomaswood4812 3 года назад

    You should build the tank to use actual tracks and build your own tracks. Build the tracks to accommodate two of the Batteries inside the tracks. This way you will have more room for every thing else.

  • @triciahoppers1467
    @triciahoppers1467 Год назад +1

    You really need to get the tank done

  • @abethebabe539
    @abethebabe539 3 года назад +1

    It looks so cool!!! But I really hope that the 2j mower doesn’t get put aside

  • @corystubbs8793
    @corystubbs8793 3 года назад +1

    Ok hear me out here guys, what about a beer cannon, like the ones you can get for the ar15 but instead of shells to launch it you stick 2 flywheels on the top and bottom of the tube so you can adjust the range of the projectile, plus it could shoot tennis balls cos they’re abt the same size!!!!

  • @mitchtorrie7933
    @mitchtorrie7933 3 года назад

    Awesome project!!! Use the leaf tranny/ diff and add steering brakes to steer.

  • @weldeddaydreams
    @weldeddaydreams 3 года назад +1

    So happy! I suggested they build a mini tank with snowmobile tracks like a year ago, but this is next level batshit insanity love it!

  • @damianwhite9164
    @damianwhite9164 2 года назад

    Lever's like a real tank one to control each track be awesome

  • @ryanryan3473
    @ryanryan3473 Год назад +1

    Where’s the tank boys? This NEEDSto happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @punkrawkgen
    @punkrawkgen Год назад

    Just watched this video because we have that tank too and I was so excited to see this project finished only to find out it isn’t.
    Can you please come back to the tank?!?!
    We all would love you very much if you did 😉!

  • @that_frog_kurtis
    @that_frog_kurtis 2 года назад +1

    Can't believe we're still waiting for this

  • @Im26c4u-OnYt
    @Im26c4u-OnYt 2 года назад +1

    2:55
    It's funny how the police is breaking more rules while in pursuit of the tank than the tank itself

  • @DavidCASBONNE
    @DavidCASBONNE 3 года назад

    That cinematic when the police car drifts around the tank is just awesome !

  • @joshuafoust2720
    @joshuafoust2720 3 года назад

    We all love the drove footage of northern idaho its so beautiful there in idaho

  • @willierule3744
    @willierule3744 3 года назад +1

    This is going to be epic something you will be remembered for forever

  • @gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298
    @gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298 3 года назад

    Here's an idea for an upgrade to the "cannon"... .50 cal with a suppressor. With that quiet little electric motor, you could just paint the whole thing camo, and it would be perfect for deer "hunting". Or just blowing stuff up. Make Demolition Ranch proud.

  • @jeremiahaustin5253
    @jeremiahaustin5253 3 года назад

    I’m loving this idea! No doubt the right guys are taking this on!

  • @bigfootz8090
    @bigfootz8090 2 года назад +1

    I've been waiting to see the tank in action

  • @jw-zl3zp
    @jw-zl3zp 2 года назад +1

    That’s Fun. Keep the videos and projects coming.

  • @carloakihiro5530
    @carloakihiro5530 3 года назад

    its nice to see if the tank is on tracks than wheels tracks on tank or tanks looks so cool...

  • @SamuelCroin
    @SamuelCroin 3 года назад

    Very interesting project. Can't wait for sequel .

  • @sheanyquist
    @sheanyquist 3 года назад +1

    Those batteries are not gonna be all you think they will be. My calculator say you will get 17 secs of 450hp. I guess that's the fun of the build! EVs are a pandora's box and it's going to be awesome to watch the process

  • @tasteless_5915
    @tasteless_5915 2 года назад

    Adding leafs springs on it would be cool!

  • @batorboulanger6497
    @batorboulanger6497 3 года назад

    So great! A mini tank with real caterpillar and real électrique power!

  • @danblackman9287
    @danblackman9287 3 года назад

    You should use a paintball gun for the cannon. A Tippmann A5 with electric trigger would be sick! If there’s enough space you could put two side by side and make it work on one trigger

  • @mattwest6340
    @mattwest6340 3 года назад

    I respect these guys to the max, every single video they bust their ass to get these projects done, Without all the fluff and corny typical RUclips fuggery. Keep up the steller work fella's🤜💥🤛

  • @GENcELL2014
    @GENcELL2014 3 года назад +1

    Definitely not the project I thought you'd build, but I always wanted you guys to build a crazy powerful EV! The fact it'll be a tiny tank is hilarious and very awesome!

  • @captronguilbeault9639
    @captronguilbeault9639 2 года назад +2

    When are we going to see final tank build??
    Did you ever get it to work or was it scrapped
    Would love to know

  • @corbikristukat2129
    @corbikristukat2129 3 года назад

    Best project ever please build more electric stuff