Doom II - MAP29: The Living End (Nightmare! 100% Secrets + Items)

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  • Опубликовано: 3 фев 2025

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  • @hughjanes4883
    @hughjanes4883 Год назад +324

    the best troll map ive ever seen in doom was this map, exactly the same but the exit was blocked off and they called it "the dead end" its such a stupid pun and i love it

    • @LordofSadFac
      @LordofSadFac Год назад +17

      Its a Romero map, thats to be expected.

  • @quiver5756
    @quiver5756 Год назад +153

    This is Romero's best work for Doom II.
    Perhaps the only level of his that mixes perfectly the Doom 1 maze nature of levels, with the focus on verticality of D2.
    Love how the action is a literal crescendo that culminates in a Cyberdemon battle on top of the "mountain". To bad you can just skip it, instead of actually kill the C.D like Against Thee Wickedly.
    Between Monster Condo, Spirit World and The Living End, what a great way of end the game before the final boss.

    • @januszkomin3490
      @januszkomin3490 Год назад +15

      if only this was the final level instead of the Icon of Shit

    • @ioanc2
      @ioanc2 Год назад +7

      ​@@januszkomin3490 yeah, they could have placed a real final boss on the mountain, and you'd be forced to retreat to the initial areas, the entire level would become a boss fight arena.

    • @darkowl9
      @darkowl9 Год назад +4

      Definitely feels like when they got to this point, their mastery of the Doom engine was really starting to show. Big open area, the flow of showing you where you're going to end up (but you're gonna have a heck of a fight to get there), and the way you work your way through the level... *chefs kiss* Much better than some of the more simple "maze-like" levels, this has a great sense of "place", something Romero did particularly well (not to dismiss the others, Sandy's prolific work included, but Romero definitely has a touch with his Doom levels).

  • @edu2076
    @edu2076 Год назад +29

    "You're doomed"
    "Speak of the devil"
    How meta

  • @PeterLawrenceYT
    @PeterLawrenceYT Год назад +50

    This map is so tough, well done! Nearly done with Doom II now!!

  • @shukterhousejive
    @shukterhousejive Год назад +97

    It's amazing how well the map pushes you to constantly move forward and stay on your toes, it's basically a Nightmare map in all but name

    • @manuell3505
      @manuell3505 Год назад +3

      It's well done. In UV, I hate the first room on that path. If you wasted ammo while shooting in the distance at the start, you're done there. They should have made it impossible to shotgun the cyberdemon over the edge with no risk, though. 😄

    • @Telmach
      @Telmach Год назад +1

      I like your pfp

  • @fellow_doomer
    @fellow_doomer Год назад +44

    this map literally stepped up the game even more. also this song just slaps

  • @akee1ah
    @akee1ah Год назад +19

    So satisfying to watch Decino in proper form! Swift and accurate moves, beautiful!

  • @magdalenusrex346
    @magdalenusrex346 Год назад +26

    The Penultimate map is another banger. Shawn's Got a Shotgun is a great song and with tons of enemies, one of the more twisted designs that makes you feel like your ascending a mountain, and a climactic Cyberdemon fight, this is one of the most iconic.

  • @JangianTV
    @JangianTV Год назад +45

    Really well done on this one; no outtakes! But man, we're near the end already. Looking forward to Map 30; hope RNJesus is kind to you on that day! 😁

  • @QuantumWaltze
    @QuantumWaltze Год назад +1

    Those instructions he gives while going through the levels make it feel like a cooking tv show.

  • @blazinggaming46
    @blazinggaming46 Год назад +2

    Man this is quite hardcore. I did a nightmare playthrough of doom II on youtube years ago and I remember this level very clearly, because I found it to be the most difficult by far, especially the end. Rewatching my own video and comparing it to yours I found it not worth it/impossible to get rid of the respawned hitscanners at the end so I found just rushing up the stairs and just tank all the hits was the way to go. Anyway, great series, it's fun to compare your strats to the ones I used (even though I had no constraints other than no saving). You also make it look so easy somehow . I don't really play anymore but would have loved to exchange ideas and strats. Great to see some love for nightmare :)

  • @StoneHill777
    @StoneHill777 Год назад +8

    And we are close to the end, excellent run as always.

  • @flummox3d
    @flummox3d Год назад +9

    "Without the plasma you're doomed."
    HA, get it, because the game is called Doom.
    I'll see myself out.

  • @matheusrios4223
    @matheusrios4223 Год назад +2

    He did it! Pumpkin Man did it! He beat Doom II Hell on Earth on nightmare. You made this map look easy, but its a real challenge to beat it pistol start. The icon of sin is such a joke I don't even count it towards completing Doom II on any difficulty. Congratulations Decino :D

  • @coryfusting9294
    @coryfusting9294 Год назад +1

    Massive kudos on finishing this first run. I figured this would have brought along a lot of outtakes.

  • @Olek54321
    @Olek54321 Год назад +8

    I can not believe it's nearly finish of Doom 2 on Nightmare, that was quite a journey :D
    What a chaos in this map, wow

  • @Vytaan
    @Vytaan Год назад +2

    Wow. I never would have expected zero outtakes, that's insane! Great job on oneshotting this difficult map.

  • @parsifal6094
    @parsifal6094 Год назад +2

    Now we expect 30 outtakes for map 30

  • @ButtonMasherReal
    @ButtonMasherReal Год назад +15

    Doom 2's always felt like a mixed bag to me, but this map stands out as one of the best. What a way to (almost) end a game.

    • @fruitylerlups530
      @fruitylerlups530 Год назад

      I feel like Doom 2 like was id discovering its footing with the doom combat formula but with some hang-ups from Doom 1's mazy shooting gallery design, like they were still getting a feel for the new sandbox that the enemies and the new tool in the SSG added, kinda makes me wonder if they just did one more hoorah after this. Alas the community transcended them.

  • @robertroxxor
    @robertroxxor Год назад +5

    probably my favourite doom2 map. no idea why, just lot's of memories.

  • @thestabbybrit4798
    @thestabbybrit4798 Год назад +5

    This is one of the maps I missed out on as a console player. A worthy penultimate level, and your Nightmare run made it look like a real blast to face!

    • @lankymaccrazyhair264
      @lankymaccrazyhair264 Год назад +1

      They removed this level from consol? That's messed up.

    • @thestabbybrit4798
      @thestabbybrit4798 Год назад +1

      @@lankymaccrazyhair264 the PS1 version of Doom had several levels cut. It was also missing the Arch Vile and Icon of Sin.
      But to make up for it, we got Doom II monsters in Ultimate Doom.

    • @lankymaccrazyhair264
      @lankymaccrazyhair264 Год назад +1

      @@thestabbybrit4798 it's missing the final boss? Come on, a lame final boss is better than no final boss... What's the final level in ps1 doom?

    • @thestabbybrit4798
      @thestabbybrit4798 Год назад +1

      @@lankymaccrazyhair264 The last level of PSX Doom is Redemption Denied. It's a single room arena like E3M8 with a bunch of Barons in the middle, and when they die walls lower to reveal two Spider Masterminds in opposite corners.

  • @filip000
    @filip000 Год назад +8

    Love this map, especially this music, my favorite out of all Doom maps. Great job Decino, one more to go!

  • @prish98
    @prish98 Год назад +3

    I'm impressed how you keep making these maps look so easy :o

  • @engrpiman
    @engrpiman Год назад +2

    hope your happy. because of these great videos i’ve played doom, sigil, doom 2, TNT and Plutina. All UV. in Plutina i had 1% health and stumbled into a secret and got a mega sphere. didn’t realize it until mowed some revenants and wondered how i survived

  • @ketchup_fox
    @ketchup_fox Год назад

    your playthrough and strategies helped me FINALLY beat map 29 on nightmare!!!! thank you so much for this amazing run!!!!!!

  • @Khrada
    @Khrada Год назад +8

    "Without the Plasma, you're DOOM'd." - Decino - 2023
    Chaingun and Plasma gun are definitely the 2 MVPs of your Nightmare run.

  • @riffbw
    @riffbw Год назад +5

    One take is really impressive on this. Romero killed it with the angles, hitscanners, and overall balance on this one. It's incredibly well crafted without feeling cheap. The chaingunngers guarding the plasma are a particularly nasty trap. The waiting for lifts and such were well done to make you feel confined, but not without options to fight back. It's a beautiful thing.
    Honestly, I could see this being the basis for TNT Evilution turning into hitscan hell. They took all the nasty trap ideas Romero used with restraint and made them into an entire megawad. Yuck.

  • @abdullahabu-mohareb1074
    @abdullahabu-mohareb1074 Год назад +1

    It's so beautiful to watch you tackle each map on nightmare strategically, very well done mate 😁

  • @improversgaming
    @improversgaming Год назад

    Damn, that was full on the whole way through! Nice work. Thanks!

  • @txcrix9236
    @txcrix9236 Год назад +2

    Wow, good run! Those teleport ambushes are crazy!

  • @Apalapan97
    @Apalapan97 Год назад +1

    0:39 ouch face!

  • @chiqi335
    @chiqi335 Год назад

    i like a lot map 29, feels like you are at the center of everything before jumping inside the brain and that song feels so good.
    Also amazing first try, always moving foward with no hesitation and with the plus of no outtakes. Congrats!

  • @FrancisFjordCupola
    @FrancisFjordCupola Год назад +1

    "Focus on the revenants and the shotgunners." Or, translated: at anything that moves. Love the level, it's been so long since last I played it.

  • @tek4
    @tek4 Год назад

    I love love love listening to you decino. Your work. Game play and voice. Make me feel like I'm listing to a friend and keep me comfortable in times of stress. Even hot me on Xbox playing the expansions and such. ..
    I hope your day is well my future friend

  • @RAFFIZUMZ
    @RAFFIZUMZ Год назад +1

    The true last level of doom 2.
    It feels like it all comes together here.

  • @nikitost0p85
    @nikitost0p85 Год назад

    Nicely done! This is one of my favorite maps from Doom 2, it just has an awesome midi and challenges you almost everywhere

  • @estudoesthething8589
    @estudoesthething8589 Год назад

    I forgot how cool this map is. Very good job doing it in one go!

  • @Ben_of_Langley
    @Ben_of_Langley Год назад

    This map looks so good always liked the design of it and originally it kicked my butt a few times but nowadays I tend to fly through it though I always forget the plasma secret anyway icon of sin next so will see how quickly you get through that I deliberately didn't look at the video length but yeah with that as always cheers for upload decino

  • @Nuclearstomp
    @Nuclearstomp Год назад

    A really great map. Not surprised you were a bit worried about this one in terms of difficulty. Great run.

  • @YigaClanMember123
    @YigaClanMember123 Год назад

    HI
    decino I have not watched one of your FANTASTIC videos in sooooo long and they are even better than I remember your the BEST RUclipsR EVER in dooms history👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @Milka-fe4ek
    @Milka-fe4ek Год назад

    I knew it ! It took only one attempt to complete this map, just as expected ! Great job !
    Perhaps when we expect great challenge that we can overcome and feel confident enough, we became more overally prepared, even at thinner, deeper layers that we don't notice usually... And a bit of luck of course ! And enough of sleep and vitamins and hydration of course !
    Also funny caco in thumbnail feels *veeery* familiar, like I've seen him a lot of times already... Like a tiiiny subtlest gag/expression type of familiar...

  • @sandmanxo
    @sandmanxo Год назад +1

    I wish I knew the plasma was down in that tunnel. That would have saved me from having to play this map about 15 times last week. I really don't remember a lot of these levels well anymore since it's been around 15 years since I had my last playthrough, but I sure like these maps over the Final Doom maps I'm playing now.

  • @broesnic4317
    @broesnic4317 Год назад

    Never got to play the classic Doom games but I love watching content on them you're definitely my favorite

  • @MonkeyJmpr
    @MonkeyJmpr Год назад +1

    Awesome game play, a master at work!

  • @fearless1000
    @fearless1000 Год назад +2

    Can't wait for Nightmare Plutonia!

  • @roymuerlunos2426
    @roymuerlunos2426 Год назад +2

    This is probably my favorite DooM II level, this or Vivisection. It's just such a fun level with plenty of tense, close up fights but still a large area that helps feel the scope and gravity of the pen-ultimate level. And then the Cyber demon that shows up at the end just made it feel quite epic.

  • @Runie549
    @Runie549 Год назад

    How could we be disappointed, that was a mesmerizing run to watch! Felt like the Doom equivalent of a juggling act with how fast priorities shift and you constantly have to be on your toes.
    I'm not as big a fan of this map as most typical Doom fans, but I will say that it's one of those maps where, for some reason that I don't even know, it still grew on me a lot when doing it from a pistol start. Same with map 14. I guess some get better, some get worse when you do that.

  • @kaczan3
    @kaczan3 Год назад +2

    I wonder if Hell Revealed is possible on Nightmare. It would be a nice throwback to the start of the channel.

  • @chriswaudby1084
    @chriswaudby1084 Год назад +1

    Holy crap man 1st attempt ? Well done cos that looked like hard work so much to do so many caco's sheer hell

  • @FloodclawKupo
    @FloodclawKupo Год назад

    Absolutely astonishing that this was your first attempt - I based my own routing off of Peter's as well, so no surprise that yours felt familiar at first. The amount of times you can get scammed on that final triple-switch area and final staircase is unreal. And don't worry, not disappointed at the lack of outtakes, just surprised. Just goes to show the skill difference between Pumpkin Doomgod and the common folk, I suppose!

  • @guitarzan5328
    @guitarzan5328 Год назад +1

    What a flawless run, my man! Just like when The Beatles recorded "Twist And Shout"... in 1 take! Outstanding work. 😊👌

  • @sserpent21
    @sserpent21 Год назад

    Awesome level. It builds and builds to the final showdown, thankfully that Cyberdemon can be ignored. When I first saw this map, my friends saw the CD and backed off and had to try and kill him from a distance not knowing he could be ran by to win.

  • @rustyjones7908
    @rustyjones7908 Год назад +2

    I think I speak for everyone when I say I can't wait for Decino to play The Master Levels on Nightmare...

  • @RevenantFTS97
    @RevenantFTS97 Год назад

    Terrific work, decino! It's totally impressive you managed to beat this map and didn't die once. Honestly, I was expecting some outtakes here

  • @therealxoc
    @therealxoc Год назад

    Fuggin nailed it! And the ending staircase... At times it looked like you were just a pixel away from falling off the cliff. And that Caco trying to block the path was a nice little surprise 🍅💀

  • @krnlexception
    @krnlexception Год назад +1

    imo one of the hardest maps in doom 2, great run

  • @davidbates3057
    @davidbates3057 8 месяцев назад

    It's really impressive that you did it with only the weapons on the map.
    For me, the frustrating thing about this level is the random respawn timers. Nightmare is mostly about shooting and moving, but the entire level is designed to just make you wait. Wait for the teleport pause. Wait for the bridge to rise. Run back and forth in every room pressing one button after another. If the monsters had a reasonable forced internal cooldown on their respawn then it wouldn't be so frustrating. The majority of my deaths are a result of that baron of hell respawning on the pillar, or being swarmed with cacodemons -- props to how you sidestepped that one in the third bridge room -- or just having those god damn revenants in the final room chain respawn before you've even cleared the shotgunners off the bridges.
    It's a fantastically desiogned level, but it has just one thing too much going on when respawns can range from being nigh instantaneous to being 3+ minutes long.

  • @Muscleduck
    @Muscleduck Год назад

    When I replayed Doom 2 last year I'd forgotten about this map but I loved playing it. Great, great map.

  • @luanbim9527
    @luanbim9527 Год назад +1

    Muito bem Decino!
    Você é um mestre do Doom!
    A engenharia criativa de Romero é sua assinatura!
    Doom é o melhor game FPS já criado!

  • @eduardodiaz9942
    @eduardodiaz9942 Год назад +2

    This map is peak Romero. And Shawn's Got The Shotgun is one of the best tracks in Doom II's soundtrack.

  • @ZenSolipsist
    @ZenSolipsist Год назад

    Absolutely monster to slay in nightmare 🍿🔥 incredible work pumpkin man 🧡

  • @jirijiri5437
    @jirijiri5437 Год назад +16

    Tell me one thing pumpkin man. You know everything about all the dooms. You know every level and you can play it at an incredible skill level. You know the code, the mechanics, dodging all the shots like nothing. You are even better at multiplayer than JR himself. Tell me…. Are you an Icon of sin? Or maybe retired doom slayer, reliving his wild past? 😂❤ i love your style decino. For me, you are Uncle ducino for eternity.
    Edit: wuw u xoxo

  • @jimmcctheabsolutemoron746
    @jimmcctheabsolutemoron746 Год назад

    In every Doom game I played I've never encountered a level that literally feel like rng and I'm getting so frustrated on this level and the fact I'm just try to do is just to get a single achievement so congratulations on first attempt I'll keep trying to do this level until I beat it

  • @tovlasek
    @tovlasek Год назад +1

    When I was a kid Cacodemon's were my favourite demons, because they looked so cute. I mean they still are not gonna lie. But this was my favourite Doom map since there were so many of them. I thought that this was their home in hell haha!

  • @Nob1ej0n
    @Nob1ej0n Год назад

    Wow. Wowowow. Wowowowowow. I can't believe you just did that on your first try. Good freaking job. Wow.

  • @Geniraul
    @Geniraul Год назад +4

    This was the map that I almost never visited during my first years of playing Doom as a child, because I was too afraid of map 30 😆

    • @kelleroid
      @kelleroid Год назад +1

      map30 was the scariest for me because it pretty much ignores -nomonsters

  • @anthonypatete6759
    @anthonypatete6759 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you!! I was stumped

  • @scottl.1568
    @scottl.1568 Год назад +3

    1. You didn't get any secrets...
    2. You didn't chainsaw the cyberdemon...😮

  • @CsendesMark
    @CsendesMark Год назад

    Why would anyone disappointed of lack out-takes?
    I'm not even mad, that's amazing!

  • @GeminionRay
    @GeminionRay Год назад

    I'm surprised there's no outtakes at all. Very well done! Now only the joke map remains.

  • @WorentFelix
    @WorentFelix Год назад

    I love this level because this first time in where a advance level don't exist keys, only switch buttons.
    and because the tension of that level shows that all hell will not let you visit Jhon Romero.

  • @bbloodjh
    @bbloodjh Год назад

    This map is legendary

  • @XzMondayNightzX
    @XzMondayNightzX Год назад +1

    They call this the living end but when you're really not good it's the living pistol start.

  • @atdynax
    @atdynax Год назад +2

    Vytaan needed 60 runs and had to switch to mouse to make it.

    • @decino
      @decino  Год назад +4

      It's a very tough map for keyboard only.

  • @angrystalin
    @angrystalin Год назад

    "With practice, anything is possible"
    -Decino

  • @Etrehumain123
    @Etrehumain123 Год назад

    What astonishing skills you have wowww

  • @Tiosh
    @Tiosh Год назад

    And we're at the end of DOOM 2. Was a blast. Last level is virtually the same as UV.

  • @leoneldoleschal1194
    @leoneldoleschal1194 Год назад

    The best map from doom 2 😊, hope the people who got the submissions enjoy 🎉🎉

  • @jrock718
    @jrock718 Год назад

    Nice run pumpkin man

  • @arandomgamer02
    @arandomgamer02 Год назад +1

    This level is extremely difficult without the secret non-secret plasma.

  • @schurl9600
    @schurl9600 Год назад

    Such a great map. Totally reminds me of Perfect Hatred and Paths of Wretchedness.

  • @veivletische
    @veivletische Год назад

    Epic level, even more epic on Nightmare.

  • @matiasrapallini3404
    @matiasrapallini3404 Год назад

    Wow, you really nailed it! 😎

  • @txcrix9236
    @txcrix9236 Год назад

    I can't believe I waited till the very end to become a member of your channel!

  • @multigamer856
    @multigamer856 Год назад +1

    No outtakes huh? I kind of expected you to get a good route here for some reason. Plasma and chaingun are nightmare's worst enemy or better say player's best friend and it's really nice to know this, if I want to try nightmare sometime.
    Map 30 isn't much different than on UV, I bet.

  • @MrEW1985
    @MrEW1985 Год назад +1

    Amazing!

  • @OldMovieRob
    @OldMovieRob Год назад

    Man that was impressive

  • @Superlagg
    @Superlagg Год назад

    2:21 Speak of the devil, and he shall respawn.

  • @RetroGamingWithEdgarRivera
    @RetroGamingWithEdgarRivera Год назад

    Oh my God we're almost to the Finish Line almost to Map 30 time flies really fast that I believed. As for map 29, I'll tell you one of the most confusing and the most grueling and challenging map I ever seen in my opinion on nightmare it took me several tries to figure out a good strategy to kill all monsters and getting the secrets and not to mention lots of hit scanners ready to ruin your day, but you know what I prefer it on nightmare over ultra violence because an Ultraviolence I found it kind of lame to me but on nightmare it makes it more interesting to me plus it makes me think whether or not if I going to move or attack the monster. Overall pretty fun map on nightmare but hey I'm ready for Map 30 though.

  • @silky_merkin
    @silky_merkin Год назад

    Congrats on D2 on Nightmare! Map 30 is basically a formality

  • @tavanium
    @tavanium Год назад

    Thank you again for endless DOOM love 🤜🤛

  • @1987nightrap
    @1987nightrap 5 месяцев назад

    I've learned Nightmare is about rng and developing strategies

  • @fmsyntheses
    @fmsyntheses Год назад

    It's an objectively brilliant level. There's so much going on, and it pulls off everything it tries really well. It sometimes feels mean-spirited, though. But I guess that's not out of place for Doom. And it's certainly not as sadistic as a lot of things that happen in Plutonia.

  • @benprins8240
    @benprins8240 Год назад

    A Sunday afternoon doom 2 treat with decino, love it😀😀

  • @tornado100able
    @tornado100able Год назад

    This map is so cool, i remember how epic the final battle against cyberdemon used to be when i was younger

  • @adinocc2042
    @adinocc2042 Год назад

    @6:14 Cyberdemon: "Ha, Ha, Decino! Now I will destroy you! Ready? Cuz here I come!"
    @6:15 Decino hits the exit.
    @6:15 Cyberdemon: "NO! NO! NO! 'sigh' He's just too good a player is all" (Cyberdemon collapses on floor and cries uncontrollably for six hours)

  • @stardust_2339
    @stardust_2339 Год назад

    "Without the plasma, you are doomed."
    Haha, he said it. 1:16

  • @nickkovaliov3525
    @nickkovaliov3525 Год назад

    Wow! Almost the end!

  • @claudiubursuc-carstean2428
    @claudiubursuc-carstean2428 Год назад

    Gogogooo Decinooo, uuu gooot thiiis!!!!❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉

  • @NTAD
    @NTAD Год назад

    Imagine if there's exactly one outtake on M30 and it's because of an unlucky cube frag.