Ive got a Juno-106 vs Juno-X video coming out in the next few days where I build up and compare patches from scratch..... and for all the doubters out there just wait until you hear these two side-by-side!
@@baldeagle2313 the system-8 sounds more authentic to the original, but the juno-x actually sounds a bit 'heavier' than the system-8. the X also has much better effects than whats on the system-8 i find. but overall when it comes to ultra-detailed reproductions-- the X is closer to the original, if that means it sounds 'better' to you than yes! but i really like the sound of all 3
This video is so awesome! Thank you so much for this! I just got one on Saturday after waiting 11 months. I've owned just about every synth under the sun, they came and went. This one is a gem indeed!
Ayy, I'm really glad they got you a review unit to make content for the launch. Definitely wanted to hear your thoughts. Anyway, for me, Roland nailed this one. I wanted that super simple interface with great sound and new features.
I have grown to *love* my Jupiter-X over the last two years........ almost always when im in the studio just absent mindedly enjoying synths its the Jupiter-X for its great keyboard and features (honestly its actually the speakers that make it so so easy to enjoy without setting up the whole studio) so when I got the JunoX and it was basically a Jupiter-X in Juno clothing with different stock models I was really excited.
THANKS ! QUESTION : IF I SAVE THE TONES IT MEANS ALL THE CHANGES WILL BE SAVED AND I WILL NOT NEED TO TWEAK THEM NEXT TIME ? ALSO, HOW CAN I ADD A REVERB OR DELAY TO ONLY ONE PART/INSTRUMENT ? IT SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE - CAN I CHANGE THE TONE WITH A TREMOLLO, OR OTHER EFFECTS ? I AM TRYING TO MAKE A LO FI PIANO IN JUNO X - IT COULD BE A GOOD VIDEO IDEA IF YOU COULD DO IT :) THE DRUMS ALSO - SNARE COULD USE SOME REVERB...MAYBE IN THE NEXT UPDATE ROLAND WILL DO SOMETHING USEFUL
I really enjoyed this video. I always laugh when people are hard on this keyboard because it’s not analogue (with something along the lines of big fat low end) and then those same people will choke the song with compression and reverb and delays layer upon layer and then kill the low end on the eq to fit it into their song - so the analogue greatness goes out the window. You stacked four sounds and it sounded absolutely huge! If making a true analogue poly was the be all and end all the korg prologue would be the best selling keyboard year upon year
what it offers beyond the system-8 is capability--- the system-8 is a nuanced accurate reproduction of the juno-106 to a circuit-level.... the Juno-X doesnt take it to such an extreme but has a POWERFUL sound with 4 different layers and considerably more polyphony... you can stack and layer and add drums... it's got bluetooth for midi and audio.... its got a MUCH better vocoder than the system-8. The system-8 has some really cool synth features like FM and sideband filters and such I'm still a big fan of the system-8 and have no plans to sell mine, but the Juno-X is a lot more 'playable' with its 61 keys, aftertouch and quality build
Ahh, we've all been waiting for the NDA to lift so that you could put out a video. Jupiter-X remains wonderful but this is adorable right? Look forward to stalking your videos as always! おつかれさまです😊
It is a seriously sweet synth and absolutely one of the best looking :) Already got a few new videos almost ready to go but this weekend i gotta get outSIDE!! camping and canoeing for me and then its back to the X!
What a superb demo this was! I have watched it multiple times - your narrative was informative and entertaining. The sounds coming from this synth are incredible. THANK YOU!
Really glad you appreciated it! I was watching it and getting embarrassed for myself, i feel next time ill focus more on sound and a little less on 'teaching' as im sure most people here just wanna hear the synth not get a whole lesson on patch building :P
@@MRTUNA Don't doubt and second guess yourself so much. If people had an issue they would say (that is the western culture after all haha!). Really its enjoyable to watch someone as excited as this. Don't underestimate it.
Master of Masters, awesome. That sounds like the lullaby of the god Zeus. Please, it would be a great contribution if you made a video with the connectivity possibilities of the juno x with other synthesizers through a usb hub.
I've subbed as this is one of the best videos on this machine. I'm sick of watching other vids were idiots are acting more like children, than talking sensibly about the machine. I've a question... as it has Bluetooth capabilities, can this connect to my LG SN4(DB) soundboard and woofer instead of buying separate dealers to plug into it.... for the time being? Yours or anybody else's would be very much appreciated!!! Also, is there actually a waiting list for this machine?? Many thanks!!
I'd love to see a video on using other midi controllers with the Juno-X, especially the usb-midi input you talked about at the end of this video. What are the options and limitations? Would be really cool to see in practice.
Does the aux in work through the onboard efx? I would love to send my other synths through it as well and use the effect in there like a pedal board! Is this possible?
I could have sworn it did but I just checked and I could only get reverb and delay so far I’ll have to spend more time….. system-8 can do it though I know that!
Thankfully they put a proper screen on it! I'm not nostalgic for 3 digit LEDs, as you could never name your patches. I also like that it's not too big. The screen and the extra knobs update the synth without losing its character, "Juno-ness" if you will.
I really like your video and indeed the Juno-X looks really sexy, but does it really add something for those having a Jupiter-X already? One thing I think of is that it is probably easier to handle wirh fewer faders and knobs than the Jupiter X? Expecially when modeling the Juno, which can be tricky knowning which faders and knob respond to that model in the JP-X.
It’s got identical capabilities to the JPX just in a medium sized package. It’s way easier to use- and anything you can load into the JPX you can load into the Juno and vice versa---- except for maybe the JunoX/JPX models themselves?? Those *might* be specific but I don’t know for sure yet
Its the second layer with a much slower attack setting, so you hear the 1st synth come in and then the 2nd takes a lot longer and slower and it feels like that cool echo effect!
Hi, I have a question: When choosing a Model/ Engine, besides Juno-x, Juno-106, XV5080, etc. you can choose PR-A/ PR-B ... PR-X, and Common. What are those and what is the difference? Also, the waveforms are divided into ID-A, ID-B, etc. Is there any particular reason for that? I can not see any logic behind those groups and that gives me sleepless nights...😝
@@MRTUNA Roland got back to me. It is officially 256 voices. But he added: "but the product team always add the caveat that some tones use more than one voice of polyphony, and as you layer more sounds this eats up the voices also. The Juno-X has the 4 'parts' that can each be a different tone / model, etc. and many of the factory scenes have 2 or more of these layered. Makes for a bigger, more interesting sound, but goes through polyphony fast also." He also noted that most don't complain about cribbed voices unless they have a piano sound that is layered and using the sustain pedal a lot.
Very nice video, it seems you enjoyed this synth, it sounds amazing. how does the build in speakers sound? they look pretty small small to me. Thank you and keep doing these great videos. Cheers from Spain.
the speakers actually sound very good--- its not perfect for ultra detailed sound design but its a reason why it gets played way more than other synths in the studio
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Hi, could you make a video about Vocoder of Juno X ? Any difference with jupiter x’s vocoder? Because in Juno-X they announce vocoder like a model expansion. So my expactation is increased. Last question jupiter x/xm doesnt support condenser mic if remember correctly. You told in this video , juno-x gives Phantom power, can i use Shure sm-35 xlr condenser headset mic with Juno-X ??? Thank you great video as well.
I will see if i can make something up but it is literally the same as the vocoder from the JPX... exact same presets and everything.... you can download the roland vocal-designer which comes with many many more variations and sounds but thats an extra add on for both the JPX and the JunoX
Nobody has actually told me hahaha-- I think it’s 32 but depending on the number of patches it might be more than that. I definitely haven’t reached the limit yet
@@MRTUNA While researching, I was told 256 voices by Roland presales/support (spoke to him on the phone). (and I was as shocked sounding as you might be...just passing along what he told me :) )
and now that I'm seeing other specs, I wonder if he thought I meant presets (I asked him how many voices). Because that makes a hell of a lot more sense. So caveat emptor on my information. I'll email him again and ask
Will the new upgraded Jupiter-x model and juno-x model be available for Fantom. Or also can the juno-x grab the new jupiter-x enhanced version 3 and vice versa?
That is one question I dont know! I understand all the vintage models will definitely be available, but they might keep the proprietary 'X' models to their own synths respectively.
Can you do a feature comparison to the Jupiter-x? I’m really confused because it seems everything the Jupiter can do, this can do too. But it’s cheaper and lighter…
@@MRTUNA Everything is going well. I’ve been playing guitar a little bit more than synthesizers lately but I have the MKS 80 plugged in. Take care Sam.
Somehow I’m intrigued with this over the Jupiter X but what does the Juno x bring that the Jupiter x doesn’t . Are the Juno models the same in the putter x vs the Juno x?
the JunoX and juno60 models arent available for the X, but the 60 probably will be eventually. Its just a medium sized version of the Jupiter-X platform with some specific models. but ultimately exactly the same sound-wise and keyboardwise and (mostly) feature wise
Hi Mr Tuna and thanks so much for this brilliant demo ! You suggested to ask if we have questions ... I have !!! Should I consider selling my vintage and trusty Supersaw JP-8080, my Korg Krome (great master KB/workstation), my Mininova (so cute in analog emulation) to make some money and afford the buying of this beast ? Thanks for you your reply in advance
The Juno-X covers those sound bases for sure---- but what it doesnt do fantastically is act as a master controller for other keyboards. In that sense it can really only control 4 and a half synths via midi at any given point, where my Jupiter-80 is an *awesome* awesome master controller and spilts and layers and keeps all 16 channels at my fingers. If you can keep a great master controller around for your other gear that might be best!
If you want to upgrade from the Mininova, maybe a Virus. Upgrade from the JP8080? Again, Virus, lol. Some EDM producers would tell you to _never ever_ sell the JP8080. Upgrade from the Krome as a master keyboard? Maybe the Kronos 2 V3, but I would recommend keeping the Krome instead, it is lighter weight and a little simpler to use, plus its sound engine is plenty good. If you are super tempted by the Juno-X, get the Fantom-0 instead, much more capable Zen-Core keyboard than the Juno-X and it is cheaper. But if you just want Zen-Core sounds, consider the Zenology plugin instead or MC-707.
HI @mr tuna music. Thanks for this demo. It really helps solidify my pre-order. 😀 I'm still just getting my ducks in a. row. I'm a performing (and original) musician, and this will be replacing my Nord Stage 3. So what I'm curious to better understand are a few things (if you want my questions your upcoming demos, as you mentioned.) I haven't owned a Roland Synth since my ORIGINAL Juno 106...bought summer of '84, was stolen out of my car. I still hurt to this day ha. My question (or questions): Does the Roland cloud, or the zencore library allow me to source very traditional sounds and load them into the Juno X? The reason is some of my songs contain say an old Vox organ sound or an old wurli, , a glockenspiel, brass section, sounds that I developed on my current (and quite possibly soon to be sold) Nord. The initial and pressing issue for me will be re-imagining/translating/converting my current sounds onto the new synth, and hopefully getting as close to many of them as possible. Given that I don't know much about this environment (zencore/roland cloud)...do you foresee me struggling to translate my current sounds within the Juno? Or will it be pretty (optimistically) seamless? I don't mind taking the time to work and design the sound. Just wanting to know if there are base tones that I can start with that help me get there. I did a quick review of the Juno X's sound list, and well, it's just words at this point but I feel like I have a good shot. just wondering how it's done (for example, someone below mentioned importing Jupiter sounds into the Juno). So that sort of thing; do libraries exist that might have more classic tones? I look at this as an evolution, so I understand this thing will be undoubtedly different than the Nord. I just hope I don't lose entirely the sounds I have and can emulate and get at least most of the way there sonically. Thanks for your help!
The roland cloud has all the original factory presets from the original synths in their legendary series, so you should have lots to choose from there! the juno has a very very straightforward interface so any sounds you have to tweak or recreate on your own should be very easy too ill do some more videos on the sounds!
Thank you for this demo. The sound is killer! Can you share the internal memory size? I’d like to know if I will be able to buy and install various model expansions without deleting and sacrificing too much space. In that respect, the Fantom 0 is quite limited, and I’m still hesitating between the two. Thanks for your help!
Hi Mr. Tuna ! Was wondering : is there any difference between the Jupiter-X and the Juno-X looking at the keybed or are they exactly the same ? I know the keybed of the Jupiter-X feels premium, but what about the Juno ? Thanks for the feedback. Great channel by the way !
Great demo on the Juno X, Sounds real close to me, and those layer features are killer! Does the after touch require a lot of pressure? My XP-30 just has a real expressive light after touch and the Fantoms require a lot of pressure.
Youre not the first person to ask me that--- As a comparison I always use my JP80 which I feel has the best aftertouch response in my studio..... This seems very similar, but it also seems similiar to the JPX (I mean its probably the same keybed) and people have been saying they find the repsonse to be heavy on the JPX. I found it to be good.
I’m curious how it compares with the system 8 sound wise and whether the Apregiator is useful or if the I arpeggiator detracts. I was really turned off by the Jupiter X personally. It seems like they’ve learned some lessons there interface wise, but fundamentally it’s another zen core machine. It sure looks beautiful though and I hope you enjoy it.
so far so good--- the iArp is definitely a novel features, but they have some classic arpeggiator options in there that sound really good. The only thing I havent figured out yet is how to disable it on certain parts like I can on the JPX. System-8 might sound more "true" to the originals (even then I did a comparison that ill share in a day or so and I was blown away by how close the JunoX was to my original 106) but honestly this synth just sounds GOOD. I dont really care if it sounds exactly like a Jupiter or a Juno.... I just want to enjoy the sound and the experience and this nails it.
@@MRTUNA Well, thanks for the demonstration. Looks like you've sold me one of these also. I ended up buying the Jupiter X because of your demo's! You were the only youtuber patiently exploring its depths at the time.
Not a very good one it comes down to-- it’s just a yorkville 2 tier stand…. I’ve got a nice Hercules z stand that my prophets are on that I should really be using
Should be available very very quickly- it has the exact same engine and capabilities as the JPX and Xm but in a medium sized package-- should sound the same but with a more specific user interface… you can even load the Jupiter model in here from Roland cloud and have *exactly* the same thing if you wanted
System-8 is such a good synth. I remember how hard people were on it when it came out. people haated it, but its rolands most interesting synth in years and its so fun to design on. I really like the sound of the junox i dont mind if its not exactly like the original, but you might be surprised at how close it is when i share my comparison to the original 106 in the next day or 3
@@MRTUNA Thank you. I'm looking forward to your videos on this. I'm a super Juno 106 fan and have owned vintage ones and most of the clones. I had really high hopes for this and I've disliked the ZenCore 106 emulations in the software and Jupiter-X. The videos that have popped up just sound like more Zencore and not Juno 106 to my ears. I'm hoping that divide closes with a software update or a more thorough deep dive.
I’m excited to hear your comparison to the System 8’s Juno. Correct me if I’m wrong but I heard that the Juno emulation is different in the Zencore than in the system 8. I own a System 8 and love it but just preordered the Juno - X because of all the stacking and features it offers.
as far as I can tell (and ive got them stacked on the same stand) it has the exact same keybed as the Jupiter-X. aftertouch has gotta be the same or at least I havent noticed any change but I always felt the keyboard/aftertouch was great on my JPX
System-8 is a sound designer's dream. its 1/1 controls all the way around with 0 menu diving. its nuanced and detailed in a way that the Juno-X is not........ i loooooove my system-8, but the Juno-X is a very different beast.... it sounds GREAT. it might not sound as dead-close-to-the-originals as the System-8 does (although my upcoming comparison with the real Juno-106 will prove that pretty moot), but it has a really *big* sound with much more polyphony and huge 4 synth stacks. To my ears, it sounds just as 'good' as the System-8, but its got a much more playable keyboard with 61 keys and aftertouch, and a much better build quality. The system-8 sequencer is so cool if you ever use it (I dont) and I love the cv control on the system-8 and the user interface as a whole......... so the answer is...... i have no idea :)
I’ll bet you can enable PWM from the front panel without having to dive the menu like on the Jupiter X. The panel mapping on the Jupiter is a disgrace.
Their not telling you that this synth is digital! But it sounds great! So forget the purest nonsense and really think about buying this like I did! You won't be sorry.
got excited and then realized its ZenCore, I've already turn my back on that BS, its not enough of a match to the Juno series to replace it and I have lots of digital synths that don't require annoying check ins. super disappointing its not analog. RIP Roland, Just make a new Juno that is analog! please Roland if your watching, just do it! not ACB not Zen anything
@@MRTUNA I did watch it and I will admit... that video did change my thinking on these and now am considering if possibly I do want one. 🤔 good videos!
Nothing new to the table. Same old formula without even hitting the analog sounds of the original. So is another bad clone of their own almost 40 year old synth. Is ridiculous to charge $1000 for it, let alone $2200 after taxes for is a point blank ROBBERY
Yea. Looks like Roland lost it some time ago. If people want sound of the 80’s then they should buy original vintage… which is mostly a whole different experience from todays production. Looks like they knew how to create instruments that were also organic, not this sterile VST “Botique” lol. It’s no biggie. People like our host here are here to market the hell out of these toys… you would be surprised but it looks like they sell more of these than they ever did of the classic originals. 2200$ after taxes = just lol. I guess everyone can choose what they want. Even better if people buy into this sterile sounding gear. It’s a planned obsolence. Juno-6, JX and AX are classics that defined, define and will define the benchmark. They won’t be able to replicate them 1:1 ever. :-). Why? History repeats, context never.
Like the X, it's a superb bag of tricks, and it possesses a killer chorus. But .... and you know what's coming .... the System 8 still sounds better. The sooner Roland swallows its pride and brings out a 61 key, 16 voice System 8, the better. It will be the best synth on the planet.
Ive got a Juno-106 vs Juno-X video coming out in the next few days where I build up and compare patches from scratch..... and for all the doubters out there just wait until you hear these two side-by-side!
In one of your future demo's it would be nice to hear the Juno-X's Aging function.
@@aseomg definitey will consider that!
Does the system 8 sound better than these two ?
@@baldeagle2313 the system-8 sounds more authentic to the original, but the juno-x actually sounds a bit 'heavier' than the system-8. the X also has much better effects than whats on the system-8 i find. but overall when it comes to ultra-detailed reproductions-- the X is closer to the original, if that means it sounds 'better' to you than yes! but i really like the sound of all 3
@@MRTUNA So you say the 8 sounds more authentic to the original but the X is closer to the original? So which one is it? 😀
What an AMAZING demo wow Mr. Tuna!
Just ordered mine thank you.
This video is so awesome! Thank you so much for this! I just got one on Saturday after waiting 11 months. I've owned just about every synth under the sun, they came and went. This one is a gem indeed!
Ayy, I'm really glad they got you a review unit to make content for the launch. Definitely wanted to hear your thoughts. Anyway, for me, Roland nailed this one. I wanted that super simple interface with great sound and new features.
I have grown to *love* my Jupiter-X over the last two years........ almost always when im in the studio just absent mindedly enjoying synths its the Jupiter-X for its great keyboard and features (honestly its actually the speakers that make it so so easy to enjoy without setting up the whole studio) so when I got the JunoX and it was basically a Jupiter-X in Juno clothing with different stock models I was really excited.
THANKS ! QUESTION : IF I SAVE THE TONES IT MEANS ALL THE CHANGES WILL BE SAVED AND I WILL NOT NEED TO TWEAK THEM NEXT TIME ?
ALSO, HOW CAN I ADD A REVERB OR DELAY TO ONLY ONE PART/INSTRUMENT ? IT SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE - CAN I CHANGE THE TONE WITH A TREMOLLO, OR OTHER EFFECTS ? I AM TRYING TO MAKE A LO FI PIANO IN JUNO X - IT COULD BE A GOOD VIDEO IDEA IF YOU COULD DO IT :) THE DRUMS ALSO - SNARE COULD USE SOME REVERB...MAYBE IN THE NEXT UPDATE ROLAND WILL DO SOMETHING USEFUL
Dude, Mr Tuna is part of Roland launch campaigns now?! That is awesome! Congrats on the growth of your channel.
It’s very exciting for me-- I’m going to try and do this synth some justice over the next few weeks. Thanks for being here ❤️
@@MRTUNA Congrats, Truman!
Fantastic Video!! Answered all the questions that weren't answered elsewhere, especially the part about controlling multiple parts at once. Thank You!
My friend
I’m looking at the Moog Muse,or the Jupiter X or the Juno X
What would you recommend?
Value your opinion highly .
So sick buddy. Can’t wait to watch this through.
Thanks my friend! Really appreciate having you here 🙏🙏
Really in depth video. Thanks so much for posting!
Ooo. Does sound rather tasty, but then I'm not surprised as the Jupiter-X does too.
Very nice demo sir.
Thank you my kind friend
Just found you, thank god someone as explained the presets and patches well done and thanks.
Really appreciate the video and look forward to the Juno-106 and System-8 comparison!
Already got the 106 comparison done! Should have that out tomorrow or the next day
Really nice to see as a part of this new launch. Congrats and keep on groovin’ in a synth world! ✌️
Thanks a lot! Appreciate the kind words!
Great video ! Very entertaining, would you be able to do a jam session on the Juno x using the step sequencer/
I really enjoyed this video.
I always laugh when people are hard on this keyboard because it’s not analogue (with something along the lines of big fat low end) and then those same people will choke the song with compression and reverb and delays layer upon layer and then kill the low end on the eq to fit it into their song - so the analogue greatness goes out the window.
You stacked four sounds and it sounded absolutely huge! If making a true analogue poly was the be all and end all the korg prologue would be the best selling keyboard year upon year
How the key action of the Juno-X compares to the key action of the Jupiter-8?
Ohhhh HELL YEAH. Good stuff dude!
Thanks buddy!!!! What a maCHINE!!!!
Could you do a video on creating lead sounds Please....
interesting, does it offer anything beyond the system 8?
what it offers beyond the system-8 is capability--- the system-8 is a nuanced accurate reproduction of the juno-106 to a circuit-level.... the Juno-X doesnt take it to such an extreme but has a POWERFUL sound with 4 different layers and considerably more polyphony... you can stack and layer and add drums... it's got bluetooth for midi and audio.... its got a MUCH better vocoder than the system-8. The system-8 has some really cool synth features like FM and sideband filters and such
I'm still a big fan of the system-8 and have no plans to sell mine, but the Juno-X is a lot more 'playable' with its 61 keys, aftertouch and quality build
@@MRTUNA Got it thanks, sounds epic!
Awesome stuff bro !!!!
Johnny my man!
Thank you 🙏🏻
You got it buddy!
@@MRTUNA I think it could be good partner with my system 8
Great demo..this video should get more view..
How is it adding and controlling additional models? For example, adding the Jupiter 8 model to the Juno X?
Great video! Do we know the price yet?
I believe it’s 2000 usd!
@@MRTUNA 😬
That all sounds great…but what happens when you bring in the Juno-blue-vacuum patch there in the background? 😂
Great job. Subbed!
Wonderful, thank you for the time saving tips including: Shift + Enter to enter the initialize menu. :)
Three layer super stack is sonic brilliance. Love it man.
Thank you!! I was really proud of how that came together 🙏❤️
Please make a video of the vocoder
Awesome video bro, you would make an unreal teacher 🎹
Them Juno sounds got me frothing to go make some synth-wave or alike..
Arigato Sensei 🙏🏻
This is a very cool channel dude. I mean VERY cool.
Ahh, we've all been waiting for the NDA to lift so that you could put out a video. Jupiter-X remains wonderful but this is adorable right?
Look forward to stalking your videos as always! おつかれさまです😊
It is a seriously sweet synth and absolutely one of the best looking :) Already got a few new videos almost ready to go but this weekend i gotta get outSIDE!! camping and canoeing for me and then its back to the X!
What a superb demo this was! I have watched it multiple times - your narrative was informative and entertaining. The sounds coming from this synth are incredible. THANK YOU!
Really glad you appreciated it! I was watching it and getting embarrassed for myself, i feel next time ill focus more on sound and a little less on 'teaching' as im sure most people here just wanna hear the synth not get a whole lesson on patch building :P
@@MRTUNA Don't doubt and second guess yourself so much. If people had an issue they would say (that is the western culture after all haha!). Really its enjoyable to watch someone as excited as this. Don't underestimate it.
Master of Masters, awesome. That sounds like the lullaby of the god Zeus. Please, it would be a great contribution if you made a video with the connectivity possibilities of the juno x with other synthesizers through a usb hub.
I've subbed as this is one of the best videos on this machine. I'm sick of watching other vids were idiots are acting more like children, than talking sensibly about the machine.
I've a question... as it has Bluetooth capabilities, can this connect to my LG SN4(DB) soundboard and woofer instead of buying separate dealers to plug into it.... for the time being? Yours or anybody else's would be very much appreciated!!! Also, is there actually a waiting list for this machine??
Many thanks!!
I'd love to see a video on using other midi controllers with the Juno-X, especially the usb-midi input you talked about at the end of this video. What are the options and limitations? Would be really cool to see in practice.
Thank you for the tutorial and helping to unlock features. Make more videos both Jupiter & Juno X
More to come my friend! i'll probably have my Juno vs Juno video come out tomorrow morning
@@MRTUNA I have the Jupiter 80 & X
@@adrianh63 me too! they are an awesome combo
How do afford all the new cool gear?
@@adrianh63 I literally lived in a Motorhome for 3+ years in my friends backyard to accommodate a lot of my purchases 🙃
Does the aux in work through the onboard efx? I would love to send my other synths through it as well and use the effect in there like a pedal board! Is this possible?
I could have sworn it did but I just checked and I could only get reverb and delay so far I’ll have to spend more time….. system-8 can do it though I know that!
Thankfully they put a proper screen on it! I'm not nostalgic for 3 digit LEDs, as you could never name your patches. I also like that it's not too big. The screen and the extra knobs update the synth without losing its character, "Juno-ness" if you will.
The screen in the center makes a huuuuge difference. It was really awkward on the jupiter x
I really like your video and indeed the Juno-X looks really sexy, but does it really add something for those having a Jupiter-X already? One thing I think of is that it is probably easier to handle wirh fewer faders and knobs than the Jupiter X? Expecially when modeling the Juno, which can be tricky knowning which faders and knob respond to that model in the JP-X.
It’s got identical capabilities to the JPX just in a medium sized package. It’s way easier to use- and anything you can load into the JPX you can load into the Juno and vice versa---- except for maybe the JunoX/JPX models themselves?? Those *might* be specific but I don’t know for sure yet
@@MRTUNA I’m pretty sure they are
Good question, good answer. The Juno does look wonderful, but Im already on team Jupiter.
Do I hear voice stealing at 18:15?
WoW!! Thanks for the Vid!!
Thanks for watching my friend! I am honoured to be a part of this launch
:O What added those reverse tones at 19:01? Some kind of effect on one of the parts? :)
Its the second layer with a much slower attack setting, so you hear the 1st synth come in and then the 2nd takes a lot longer and slower and it feels like that cool echo effect!
@@MRTUNA thanks! :)
Nice one thank you 🙏
I want a System 16 or 24. Guess I have to use the "cloud" VST then.
I always thought a fun name for a synth would be the Cloud9 and then have 9 Roland Cloud spots in there
Hi, I have a question:
When choosing a Model/ Engine, besides Juno-x, Juno-106, XV5080, etc. you can choose PR-A/ PR-B ... PR-X, and Common. What are those and what is the difference? Also, the waveforms are divided into ID-A, ID-B, etc. Is there any particular reason for that? I can not see any logic behind those groups and that gives me sleepless nights...😝
How many voices does the Juno X have?
Depends on how many layers- minimum 16 I think with all 4 layers being modelled synths.
@@MRTUNA Roland got back to me. It is officially 256 voices. But he added: "but the product team always add the caveat that some tones use more than one voice of polyphony, and as you layer more sounds this eats up the voices also. The Juno-X has the 4 'parts' that can each be a different tone / model, etc. and many of the factory scenes have 2 or more of these layered. Makes for a bigger, more interesting sound, but goes through polyphony fast also."
He also noted that most don't complain about cribbed voices unless they have a piano sound that is layered and using the sustain pedal a lot.
Could you load the Juno into the Jupiter x and basically have the same thing as the Juno X?
yes you can! and you can load the Jupiter into the Juno and have the same thing as the Jupiter (although mayb e with a lot more menu diving)
Did they add the Alpha Juno PWM Saw wave from the Zencore / Zenology as well in the Juno X engine ?
I havent actually checked that out yet--- ill try to keep that in mind next time im in the studio
@@MRTUNA Awesome I’d love to know .
Very nice video, it seems you enjoyed this synth, it sounds amazing. how does the build in speakers sound? they look pretty small small to me. Thank you and keep doing these great videos. Cheers from Spain.
the speakers actually sound very good--- its not perfect for ultra detailed sound design but its a reason why it gets played way more than other synths in the studio
Hi, could you make a video about Vocoder of Juno X ? Any difference with jupiter x’s vocoder? Because in Juno-X they announce vocoder like a model expansion. So my expactation is increased. Last question jupiter x/xm doesnt support condenser mic if remember correctly. You told in this video , juno-x gives Phantom power, can i use Shure sm-35 xlr condenser headset mic with Juno-X ??? Thank you great video as well.
I will see if i can make something up but it is literally the same as the vocoder from the JPX... exact same presets and everything.... you can download the roland vocal-designer which comes with many many more variations and sounds but thats an extra add on for both the JPX and the JunoX
How many voices in the Juno x engine? I assume with the Juno 106 emulation it’s probably 6, but wondering what the limitations on the new engine are.
Nobody has actually told me hahaha-- I think it’s 32 but depending on the number of patches it might be more than that. I definitely haven’t reached the limit yet
@@MRTUNA While researching, I was told 256 voices by Roland presales/support (spoke to him on the phone). (and I was as shocked sounding as you might be...just passing along what he told me :) )
and now that I'm seeing other specs, I wonder if he thought I meant presets (I asked him how many voices). Because that makes a hell of a lot more sense. So caveat emptor on my information. I'll email him again and ask
I believe its "up to 256" but in reality its closer to 32 when using mutliple layers or models
Does it has seamless transition feature when changing the sound (like Fantom has) ?
yes it does!
Will the new upgraded Jupiter-x model and juno-x model be available for Fantom. Or also can the juno-x grab the new jupiter-x enhanced version 3 and vice versa?
That is one question I dont know! I understand all the vintage models will definitely be available, but they might keep the proprietary 'X' models to their own synths respectively.
@@MRTUNA that is also my prediction and fear 😂 have to purchase each to get all the updated versions. This could go on forever
Love it when BigCos notice the people that would do their gear justice. Go Truman!
🙏🙏🙏 Thanks my friend
Classic cop killer take🔊✨✨✨
Can you do a feature comparison to the Jupiter-x? I’m really confused because it seems everything the Jupiter can do, this can do too. But it’s cheaper and lighter…
I'll try to do one very soon! They are amazingly close... the Juno is just like a medium sized version with a few less controls
Does it have 3 separate envelopes?
Depending on the model- but they are selectable on one ADSR
Great presentation.
Thanks a lot I was pretty nervous about making this one work but Im not a full-time youtuber or editting master so I just had a lot of fun with it
I absolutely do not need this but my system 8 may have a new friend very soon…. This things looks incredible!😎
Get it for the dog bark sounds!!
Nice! Thanks for the video! Your friend, Sam.
Sam my man!! Good to have you here buddy! Hope that MKS80 is taking great care of you
@@MRTUNA Everything is going well. I’ve been playing guitar a little bit more than synthesizers lately but I have the MKS 80 plugged in. Take care Sam.
Somehow I’m intrigued with this over the Jupiter X but what does the Juno x bring that the Jupiter x doesn’t . Are the Juno models the same in the putter x vs the Juno x?
the JunoX and juno60 models arent available for the X, but the 60 probably will be eventually. Its just a medium sized version of the Jupiter-X platform with some specific models. but ultimately exactly the same sound-wise and keyboardwise and (mostly) feature wise
Good job thank you
Nice John Maus Intro!
Hi Mr Tuna and thanks so much for this brilliant demo !
You suggested to ask if we have questions ... I have !!!
Should I consider selling my vintage and trusty Supersaw JP-8080, my Korg Krome (great master KB/workstation), my Mininova (so cute in analog emulation) to make some money and afford the buying of this beast ? Thanks for you your reply in advance
The Juno-X covers those sound bases for sure---- but what it doesnt do fantastically is act as a master controller for other keyboards. In that sense it can really only control 4 and a half synths via midi at any given point, where my Jupiter-80 is an *awesome* awesome master controller and spilts and layers and keeps all 16 channels at my fingers. If you can keep a great master controller around for your other gear that might be best!
If you want to upgrade from the Mininova, maybe a Virus. Upgrade from the JP8080? Again, Virus, lol. Some EDM producers would tell you to _never ever_ sell the JP8080.
Upgrade from the Krome as a master keyboard? Maybe the Kronos 2 V3, but I would recommend keeping the Krome instead, it is lighter weight and a little simpler to use, plus its sound engine is plenty good.
If you are super tempted by the Juno-X, get the Fantom-0 instead, much more capable Zen-Core keyboard than the Juno-X and it is cheaper. But if you just want Zen-Core sounds, consider the Zenology plugin instead or MC-707.
HI @mr tuna music. Thanks for this demo. It really helps solidify my pre-order. 😀
I'm still just getting my ducks in a. row. I'm a performing (and original) musician, and this will be replacing my Nord Stage 3. So what I'm curious to better understand are a few things (if you want my questions your upcoming demos, as you mentioned.)
I haven't owned a Roland Synth since my ORIGINAL Juno 106...bought summer of '84, was stolen out of my car. I still hurt to this day ha.
My question (or questions):
Does the Roland cloud, or the zencore library allow me to source very traditional sounds and load them into the Juno X? The reason is some of my songs contain say an old Vox organ sound or an old wurli, , a glockenspiel, brass section, sounds that I developed on my current (and quite possibly soon to be sold) Nord. The initial and pressing issue for me will be re-imagining/translating/converting my current sounds onto the new synth, and hopefully getting as close to many of them as possible.
Given that I don't know much about this environment (zencore/roland cloud)...do you foresee me struggling to translate my current sounds within the Juno? Or will it be pretty (optimistically) seamless? I don't mind taking the time to work and design the sound. Just wanting to know if there are base tones that I can start with that help me get there. I did a quick review of the Juno X's sound list, and well, it's just words at this point but I feel like I have a good shot. just wondering how it's done (for example, someone below mentioned importing Jupiter sounds into the Juno). So that sort of thing; do libraries exist that might have more classic tones?
I look at this as an evolution, so I understand this thing will be undoubtedly different than the Nord. I just hope I don't lose entirely the sounds I have and can emulate and get at least most of the way there sonically. Thanks for your help!
The roland cloud has all the original factory presets from the original synths in their legendary series, so you should have lots to choose from there!
the juno has a very very straightforward interface so any sounds you have to tweak or recreate on your own should be very easy too
ill do some more videos on the sounds!
Strooth, is that a yamaha SY85 behind on the floor. If so Great synth. Juno x sounds amazing. 😃
That ones actually a Yamaha Montage but good eye!
Thank you for this demo. The sound is killer!
Can you share the internal memory size? I’d like to know if I will be able to buy and install various model expansions without deleting and sacrificing too much space. In that respect, the Fantom 0 is quite limited, and I’m still hesitating between the two. Thanks for your help!
I want this so i can play allong with WHAM everything she wants !
If you connect that blue vacuum cleaner to the Juno-X, you'll be able to recreate the famous Hoover patch! 😉
it was my granddads so its about the same vintage at the Juno106 :P
Hi Mr. Tuna ! Was wondering : is there any difference between the Jupiter-X and the Juno-X looking at the keybed or are they exactly the same ? I know the keybed of the Jupiter-X feels premium, but what about the Juno ? Thanks for the feedback. Great channel by the way !
they are exactly the same! its a beautiful keybed to play
Great demo on the Juno X, Sounds real close to me, and those layer features are killer! Does the after touch require a lot of pressure? My XP-30 just has a real expressive light after touch and the Fantoms require a lot of pressure.
Youre not the first person to ask me that--- As a comparison I always use my JP80 which I feel has the best aftertouch response in my studio..... This seems very similar, but it also seems similiar to the JPX (I mean its probably the same keybed) and people have been saying they find the repsonse to be heavy on the JPX. I found it to be good.
@@MRTUNA Thanks for your reply..I'll wait to go and check it out when they are available, for that instrument AT response would be a biggy for me.
I’m curious how it compares with the system 8 sound wise and whether the Apregiator is useful or if the I arpeggiator detracts. I was really turned off by the Jupiter X personally. It seems like they’ve learned some lessons there interface wise, but fundamentally it’s another zen core machine. It sure looks beautiful though and I hope you enjoy it.
so far so good--- the iArp is definitely a novel features, but they have some classic arpeggiator options in there that sound really good. The only thing I havent figured out yet is how to disable it on certain parts like I can on the JPX.
System-8 might sound more "true" to the originals (even then I did a comparison that ill share in a day or so and I was blown away by how close the JunoX was to my original 106) but honestly this synth just sounds GOOD. I dont really care if it sounds exactly like a Jupiter or a Juno.... I just want to enjoy the sound and the experience and this nails it.
System-8’s ACB is far more accurate than zen core.
@@SPAZZOID100 yes it is
Why does the Juno X sound more Juno than the Juno model on a Jupiter X?
I think they revamped the chorus a bit??? i might be wrong on that one
@@MRTUNA Well, thanks for the demonstration. Looks like you've sold me one of these also. I ended up buying the Jupiter X because of your demo's! You were the only youtuber patiently exploring its depths at the time.
Awesome! What stand are you using for the Jupiter-X and Juno-X?
Not a very good one it comes down to-- it’s just a yorkville 2 tier stand…. I’ve got a nice Hercules z stand that my prophets are on that I should really be using
Haha and lose the hilarious wobble effect? No way!
Lovely. Question is when can we buy it :)? I have a Jupiter xm and I wonder how it overlaps with the Juno x and how does it differ. Thanks
Should be available very very quickly- it has the exact same engine and capabilities as the JPX and Xm but in a medium sized package-- should sound the same but with a more specific user interface… you can even load the Jupiter model in here from Roland cloud and have *exactly* the same thing if you wanted
@@MRTUNA gotcha, I will then sell jupiter xm and get this one! thank you
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That “P” could be sampled into a kick, fuck
hahahah what a weird way for me to say that
That sounds like its trying to be a Juno 106 but isn't. I'll stick with the System-8 until Roland brings back ACB.
System-8 is such a good synth. I remember how hard people were on it when it came out. people haated it, but its rolands most interesting synth in years and its so fun to design on. I really like the sound of the junox i dont mind if its not exactly like the original, but you might be surprised at how close it is when i share my comparison to the original 106 in the next day or 3
@@MRTUNA Thank you. I'm looking forward to your videos on this. I'm a super Juno 106 fan and have owned vintage ones and most of the clones. I had really high hopes for this and I've disliked the ZenCore 106 emulations in the software and Jupiter-X. The videos that have popped up just sound like more Zencore and not Juno 106 to my ears. I'm hoping that divide closes with a software update or a more thorough deep dive.
I’m excited to hear your comparison to the System 8’s Juno. Correct me if I’m wrong but I heard that the Juno emulation is different in the Zencore than in the system 8. I own a System 8 and love it but just preordered the Juno - X because of all the stacking and features it offers.
definitely a different machine! more nuanced and detailed on the system-8 but theres a lot of advantages to either!
Same keybed as Jupiter X? Is aftertouch improved?
as far as I can tell (and ive got them stacked on the same stand) it has the exact same keybed as the Jupiter-X. aftertouch has gotta be the same or at least I havent noticed any change but I always felt the keyboard/aftertouch was great on my JPX
@@MRTUNA , thanks! I always feel that you really have to press hard on the JP-X keys to activate aftertouch
Holy shiznit, this!
What part of the video is not scripted?
The sad part is I don’t script anything at all I just keep talking and hope I don’t say the same word like “capable” too many times 👍👍
Do I sell my system 8???
System-8 is a sound designer's dream. its 1/1 controls all the way around with 0 menu diving. its nuanced and detailed in a way that the Juno-X is not........ i loooooove my system-8, but the Juno-X is a very different beast.... it sounds GREAT. it might not sound as dead-close-to-the-originals as the System-8 does (although my upcoming comparison with the real Juno-106 will prove that pretty moot), but it has a really *big* sound with much more polyphony and huge 4 synth stacks.
To my ears, it sounds just as 'good' as the System-8, but its got a much more playable keyboard with 61 keys and aftertouch, and a much better build quality. The system-8 sequencer is so cool if you ever use it (I dont) and I love the cv control on the system-8 and the user interface as a whole.........
so the answer is...... i have no idea :)
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Next thing Roland is going to do is create a synth similar to the Jupiter 6.
or maybe like a small 1-model SH type synth??
which package is cheaper? Jupiter-X is cheaper than Juno!
No I Think JunoX is cheaper by about 1000ish
@@MRTUNA ок! juno-x ~~2000 $
Nice, X envy here haha My Xm feels sad. Still sounds cracking though!
I know it would be absolutely insane but i would love to have an Xm too, just to take with me places and enjoy on the go.
@@MRTUNA Yeah it's crazy you can carry this amount of synth power to the pub :)
PWM menu diving on a Juno is a crime!
I love lfo pwm on my 106 am I bad person? :(
@@MRTUNA *EDIT PWM menu diving bahahaha oops!
I’d trade my jupiter X for this without thinking too much, it’s a lot more beautiful and with the screen in center 😂
I should have made a bigger deal about that in the video but the screen in the center is so soooo much better than on the JPX.
I’ll bet you can enable PWM from the front panel without having to dive the menu like on the Jupiter X. The panel mapping on the Jupiter is a disgrace.
to change PWM mode you have to use the menu :( :( :( :( Thats the only thing that hurt @ 4:12
Their not telling you that this synth is digital! But it sounds great! So forget the purest nonsense and really think about buying this like I did! You won't be sorry.
Good video...dont like the sound of that Juno X at all though.
Fair enough! I appreciate the sentiments!
got excited and then realized its ZenCore, I've already turn my back on that BS, its not enough of a match to the Juno series to replace it and I have lots of digital synths that don't require annoying check ins. super disappointing its not analog. RIP Roland, Just make a new Juno that is analog! please Roland if your watching, just do it! not ACB not Zen anything
you might be impressed by the comparsion to my original Juno-106 that ill release tomorrow morning!
Just get the real deal… these VST toys are laughable at best.
106 is the weakest and most thin sounding out of all of these from that era…
@@MRTUNA I did watch it and I will admit... that video did change my thinking on these and now am considering if possibly I do want one. 🤔 good videos!
This thing is definitely not a slouch. It sounds huge!!!
That Juno chorus makes it for me!
@@MRTUNA I have an original 106 and this makes me want the Juno X for all of its extra capabilities.
Oof, just gorgeous.
Man, your fingerwork can get crazy good, when you just let go. :D Love it.
@@CaidicusProductions it’s got a great keyboard and that makes all the difference for my playing!
@@MRTUNA Well, your skill with the keys is blindingly apparent.
Roland is listening???
Nothing new to the table. Same old formula without even hitting the analog sounds of the original. So is another bad clone of their own almost 40 year old synth. Is ridiculous to charge $1000 for it, let alone $2200 after taxes for is a point blank ROBBERY
Check out my latest comparison video-- its maybe closer to the original than you think!
@@MRTUNA Dude…how much money you’re getting offered by Roland?
@@tuneunleashed never enough
Yea. Looks like Roland lost it some time ago. If people want sound of the 80’s then they should buy original vintage… which is mostly a whole different experience from todays production. Looks like they knew how to create instruments that were also organic, not this sterile VST “Botique” lol. It’s no biggie. People like our host here are here to market the hell out of these toys… you would be surprised but it looks like they sell more of these than they ever did of the classic originals. 2200$ after taxes = just lol.
I guess everyone can choose what they want. Even better if people buy into this sterile sounding gear.
It’s a planned obsolence. Juno-6, JX and AX are classics that defined, define and will define the benchmark. They won’t be able to replicate them 1:1 ever. :-). Why? History repeats, context never.
Like the X, it's a superb bag of tricks, and it possesses a killer chorus. But .... and you know what's coming .... the System 8 still sounds better. The sooner Roland swallows its pride and brings out a 61 key, 16 voice System 8, the better. It will be the best synth on the planet.
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Great job Truman 🎹🔵🔴