Any reason why there is no music stand on this device? From a technical point of view I would consider a synth like the Juno D8 in favor of a digital piano. But from a practical point of view I stick with my Digital piano, because of the music stand.
Hi! Brent here! We're glad you enjoyed it. I'll be happy to pass on the feedback to Stu and the production team. More deep dives into workstations and synths would certainly be exciting. :)
As a guitar player who plays the occasional KB part in rock/blues/soul cover bands, I need something that (1) has great essential piano sounds (2) EP sounds (3) Organ sounds, and (4) sounds I will need to cover songs from 60-s to 2000s. As a software developer, I have a natural desire to get the flagship FANTOM and go down the rabbit hole, but I have to accept that 90-something percent of what I will use a kb for is POSSIBLY available in the D series. I will need more info on what kind of sounds I get OOB or easily downloadable from Roland before I can feel certain about that. I don't want to spend hours and hours tweaking kb sounds at this stage because I am not doing original music with it (yet). So far I haven't heard any demos that sound like the #1 sound I am thinking of for one of my bands. I also haven't heard the string sounds much. A lot of the demos are oriented toward electronic music players.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for watching and writing in! Given what you have described, I would personally suggest exploring instruments like the Roland RD88 EX, Roland FP-E50, and Roland FANTOM-08. These will likely be more aligned with your specific context of use.
Thank you for the excellent review. Perhaps you have an answer: As an acoustic pianist, I’ve often wondered why the best-sounding sampled piano libraries used in DAWs almost always surpass the piano sounds found on most digital pianos and synthesizers, regardless of brand? I find them barely acceptable, even the piano sounds from the most expensive keyboards and synthesizers.
Because your computer is more powerful than digital pianos and is more capable of running high quality samples. Vst sample libraries are also really big. For example keyscape takes up 80gb. Vsts you usually listen through studio monitors or headphones, which usually are better quality than internal speakers of digital piano
You're welcome! Thanks for tuning in! Generally speaking, the file size, fidelity, and number of sample layers are able to be higher with VSTs than digital pianos due to the fact that personal computers are far more powerful than those onboard digital instruments. I would argue that there are a few exceptions when you get to the very top-end digital/hybrid pianos though.
@@Beyondabsence I think Roland is using modeled pianos instead of samples. Similar to what Pianoteq is doing on vst side. That basically solves the processing power and size problems. But most companies still use samples.
Always look forward to Stu's takes on these boards. As a user of a Roland Juno DS 88 as purely midi controller for the past six years I'm only tempted by this because of the class compliant USB-C powered audio. While the sounds again are kind of mediocre like my DS you can use your iPad or anything else without drivers. Plus being able to power it over USB. The DS could use AA batteries this is nicer.
Great overview. The D-8 has notable upgrades over the DS88, most significantly the inclusion of the PHA-4 action. I haven't put my hands on a D-6 or D-7 yet so cannot comment on the synth key action; however I loved the keys on the DS61. The ability to be powered from USB power packs is a nice addition. Some minor upgrades here and there but as someone who has owned a DS61 for years I was a bit let down that they have limited some features as well. I appreciated that you were basically getting Fantom electronics in cheaper hardware with the DS line (even though you had to menu dive to access the full power hidden in there). I agree with you though that these changes are not going to be relevant to the average buyer and it remains a top tier option.
Thank you kindly! We appreciate you taking the time to watch the video and write in with your insights. Inevitably, there are going to be some changes that fans of the predecessor models may not be a fan of, but, overall, I would say that the new JUNDO D series instruments are an exciting step forward from Roland. :)
@@MerriamPianos I want to be clear, I'm not dissing the new models :). They are solid. I'm just big on weaseling as much power as possible out of something for which I paid as little as I could. The DS line was particularly good for that as I assume Roland was just dual-purposing the Fantom chips rather than designing a different chip for the DS line. I'm not *really* the consumer they're aiming at with the Juno line, just happy to take advantage of what ended up in it for whatever reason.
Yes, the Juno DS 88 key action felt very soft and squishy, like a wet sponge - a dealbreaker. The PHA-4 is a nice keyboard action, a significant and welcome change in the Juno D 88 key.
I got a chance to test this at Guitar Center and it was in the same section as the RD08, which I was looking for. I was disappointed in the texture of the RD08 keys and the weight of the keys. Conversely, I really liked both of those items on the Juno. I will be spending a little extra to get this one.
We're happy to hear that you had a chance to audition both models! That is interesting to hear that you felt a stark contrast between the two actions. But, it depends on which models you were auditioning. The Roland RD08 and JUNO-D8 both use the same PHA4 action. However, if you were testing out the JUNO-D6 or D7 models, they use an entirely different synth-style action. The texture of those keys are markedly different of course. Thanks for tuning in and sharing your thoughts! We appreciate it. :)
I am still using an XP-30. Would this be a worthwhile upgrade? The XP-30 is a real pain to use because of the menu structure. I've had it for 20+ years and I've still never really figured this thing out.
Hi there! It is a matter of subjectivity of course. Some players prefer older models because they are very accustomed to the feel and sounds they offer. With that said, these new JUNO-D models offer the latest and greatest tech/sounds from Roland.
This competes directly (even price wise) with the Yamaha CK and personally I like this more. Especially the 88 key version, the PHA4 action is much better than the equivalent GHS.
A great overview, as always with Merriam Music.🙂 Though I am a huge fan of Kawai, Roland, Yamaha and Korg stage pianos, there is a whole new musical universe for me that is displayed here and ready to discover.🙂 Viva la musica! 🎼🎹
I always enjoy Stu’s videos for all of Roland keyboards which is my preference for keyboards. He’s is good with all of the keyboards and very knowledgeable of them thanks for this video. I’m undecided between the Juno-D and RD 88. Does the Juno offer a supernatural piano as well.
Thank you kindly for tuning in! I'll be happy to share the kind words with Stu. I don't believe the SuperNATURAL piano tones are available for the JUNO D models. With that said, the FANTOM-0 models do offer those tones.
Brooo!! Sweetwater has this at an $850 difference from the Fantom-08 ($1299.99 vs $2,149.99). Stu MUST make a comparison video that is NO LESS than 30 minutes long!🤣 C'mon, Stu! Help me decide!!
I have Fantom 06 for production and RD-88 for piano feel. Anyways, the Fantoms also have the SuperNatural pianos and EPs, and the virtual tonewheel organ. I have a VR-730 too and if you play any Hammond organ, this is a must the Juno lacks. Stu does an excellent job demoing as always. But it really depends on what you need and can afford. The Fantom 0 series has twice what the Juno has and then some. Also check used and demos at Sweetwater and Guitar Center. I got my Fantom 06 used from GC at a very good price.
Haha I will be happy to pass on the suggestion to Stu and the production team, but I can't promise anything! There are a lot of great instruments to choose from the Roland line. That is for sure! :)
@@PatrickRosenbalm Although the ease of use is huge..I have a MODX6 and just bought the CK61 and man its way easier on stage to get what you want....I think for live performance this must be considered
@@wireguy123 I checked those out before I bought what I did. I think the Rolands are better. No slam against Yamaha, I own some of their gear too. Try before you buy if you can.
Ha I didn’t see this I also asked for comparison video. Because I can’t decide. Help us Stu! Too bad there is no store like this in Seattle. I used to own a Juno and vr-730 neither of which had the premium Roland sound at the time which was super natural….yamaha reface yc can sit on top of premium piano and with midi connection you can get draw bars..full size keys and a “little” double manual action… the reface series is still viable/professional and should not be underestimated… another music sore in England used it in a blindfolded organ showdown against the big boys and did well has the faders you are looking for. Have a nice day.
Hi there! I am not entirely sure if they are the exact same sample set to be honest. They do sound a little different, but that could also be result of the different speaker systems. I'll have to inquire with our Roland reps about that.
Stu you are the best. Seriously. I am sorry to say this but that last Roland sound engine video is two years old. Please do another Roland comparison video. I appreciate what both you and Roland are doing….i may need a spread sheet at this point ….key action/price/sound engines/features/speakers. Just for the record the ph4 action spiel is always appreciated from you Stu… as you know the ph4 action is available at many price points and for many advanced users a critical part of decision making process…ph4/ph50….etc….
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for watching! We're glad to hear that you have been enjoying our channel and videos. I will be happy to pass along the feedback to our production crew. Maybe it is time to take another deep dive into Roland tone engines. ;)
I play piano and guitar but just by ear but I'm going to get lessons in theory and reading music. I got into beat making some years back and still sharpening there. My question is would this be a nice tandem for a MPC live and an actual DAW. I'm sure it does but my learning anxiety is causing me to ask just in case lol. Because this piece will be my next purchase though I'm buying it mostly to learn and get better on.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here. Thanks for the question! If you are looking for an instrument to double as a production/performance tool as well as a digital piano to learn/study on, I think the JUNO-D8 model in particular would be an excellent choice! The only thing to keep in mind with the D6 and D7 models is that they don't have fully-weighted piano actions. Instead, they use a much lighter synth-style action, which is generally not a great fit for traditional piano playing. Thanks again and hope this helps!
@MerriamPianos thanks Brent! I'm familiar with both light and heavier weighted keys though I'm thinking whomever i study with will probably have options. Either way I'm going all in this time around with learning this instrument. I appreciate the pep talk in regards to the learning curve. It helps more than you think.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for reaching out! The RD88EX uses the SuperNATURAL Piano, SuperNATURAL E-Piano, and ZEN-Core tone engines, while the JUNO-D8 used the ZEN-Core primarily. There is some overlap between the two models in terms of sounds/pre-sets, but they are not the exact same libraries given the additional tone engines on the RD88EX.
Many thanks for the review! While I am not target audience (yet), I like the features. However what surprises me that Roland consistently neglects music rests (same story with Fantom-0 for example). I get it, it is stage piano so you won't it attach it always but providing the ability (not even mentioning the rest itself) to attach it at home for practicing IMHO is the way to go. It seems according to Roland you either have to buy second keyboard (made by Roland as well I guess 🙂) or buy a stand just for the sake of attaching music rest. Providing two holes or a slot... man, Roland is stubborn.
You're welcome! Thank you so much for tuning in! I can understand the commentary about the music rest. They are generally omitted on stage pianos (by many manufacturers in fact). But, having some type of universal music rest option for these stage models would be welcomed by many users of course.
Hi. Would it be a good idea to make a comparison video between the fantom 08 and this one? We would really appreciate actually as I am actually about to decide on one of them. I am a fan of your reviews and comparisons. Thanks for all
Hi there! Thanks for the suggestion! I'll certainly pass it along to our production team. I'm sure they will do their best to tackle a comparison video if possible. There are several other videos in the queue at the moment however.
hello, it the action 'practically' the same as the fantom-08? sometime keyboards share the same keybed 'by name eg pha-50' i've tried some roland KF-10 & fp-90x were turned off and realized the feel of the keys differ - the fp-90 felt to me heavier and the return of pressed key were slower, i love the action of the kf-10 a lot but not it's price, it has fast actions not too light not too heavy
Hi! Brent here! Yes, the FANTOM-08 and JUNO-D8 both use the PHA4 action. With that said, the enclosure design that the action is fitted into will have some impact on the overall feel, hence the differences you detected between the FP90X and KF10 (which both use the PHA50).
Hey, I’m looking for a digital piano with built-in speakers that I can also connect to my MacBook and use as a MIDI controller. Any suggestions for a good option within a budget?
Thanks for the question! It depends on what the budget is. If you're looking for the most affordable options, I'd strongly recommend the Roland FP10 and FP30X. They are excellent pianos with a great action. :)
What is the action like on the D6/7? I have a Roland C-30 harpsichord/organ/forte piano which has a very light action that I have become accustomed to. I have written to Roland with my question but do not anticipate that I'll receive a reply.
Hi there! The JUNO-D6 and JUNO-D7 models use synth action keys opposed to a fully-weighted touch like the D8 model. With that said, if you have become accustomed to a very light action, you may very well be at home with the D6 and D7 models. I would recommend testing them out in person first if you are concerned about the action's weighting if possible.
Thanks so much! We appreciate you tuning in. Are you referring to how many patches can be layered simultaneously or the number of layers for the sequencer?
OK, so if I am piano shopping - that is looking at piano lessons and looking at gear, can I get a synth and use it for lessons and for making up my own music? would you consider doing a compare of say the Juno D 88 key version and a near Roland digital piano - the FP 60X (or whatever makes sense?) I am wondering why you would get a digital piano over a synth... or vice versa...
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for the question! If you are intending to use the piano for piano practice/studying, I would advise a formal digital piano (such as the FP30X or FP60X). The digital pianos typically have better piano tones, which will be more rewarding in the long run for piano playing. However, if you plan on branching out into music production, arranging, or performance, crossover models like the JUNO-D8, RD88 EX, and FP-E50 may be very appealing.
It really comes down to a matter of personal preference. I personally favour the JUNO-D8's PHA4 action. I find it to be more authentic to an acoustic piano feel.
I don't believe so. It is possible that might be a possibility later. The FANTOM-0 series instruments have access to the SuperNATURAL piano tones though.
One of the free EXZ expansions for Fantom-0 and Juno-D has a "Premier grand piano" preset that makes the middling Supernatural pianos sound dull and lifeless. Same applies to the older Juno-DS88 and FA-08 and the free Axial expansions for them.
Does the Juno D supports a triple Pedal? Not just sustain for every subsequently pressed key, but also to sustain just a single pressed key without sustaining all subsequent pressed keys?
It really comes down to musical preferences. I would personally rate the PXS6000's acoustic piano tones as being more authentic, but that is my opinion. :)
Roland Juno D lost the independently modulable serial filters that Juno DS has! For twice the boot time! And half the multitimbrality? Some serious omitions here! What would be the advantages than?
Hi there! One of the big upgrades to the D8 specifically is the inclusion of the PHA4 action. Inevitably, for players that enjoyed some of the features/functions of the predecessor models, there might be some resistance to embracing these new models.
It really depends on context of use. If you're looking for a more versatile stage piano, I think the RD08 is the better option. However, if you're looking for a lot of synth capabilities with some crossover, the JUNO-D6 would be more appropriate. It is also important to note that the RD08 has a fully-weighted piano action, whereas the JUNO-D6 has a synth action.
Is the new Juno series full 16 part multitimbral? How do you use it with a DAW for 16 part recording? The SCENE mode is 8 parts, but no one is saying whether there is a dedicated 16 part multi mode.
@@MerriamPianos Wow that’s a bummer. I wonder why Roland did this. My old Juno Di was 16 part multitimbral and had a software editor. Perhaps Roland locked the 16 part multitimbral to the playback of midi files with the new models.
@@squeakD No, they cut it down, but in exchange, there is now per-part EQ + MFX. Junos are generally affordable alternatives to Roland's Fantoms, so they are made with less capability. It is a shame to go from the 16-part Juno-DS and Juno-Di to the 8-part Juno-D, but it is not without its advantages. Plus Roland Cloud integration, because that is Roland's thing now. Stick to your Juno-Di, it is still an excellent keyboard and has most of the same sounds as this 2024 Juno-D. If you ever want an upgrade 88-key piano, look at the RD-88, FP30X, FP60X, or FP-10, in my opinion.
@@Jason75913 I don’t own the JunoDi anymore. Sold it several years ago. I have a Roland Fantom 06. Just think it’s odd for Roland to cut the ability of this Juno’s DAW capabilities in half compared to the previous models. All those great sounds and limited to only 8 parts via a DAW. Internal sequencer limitations tend be addressed by use of DAW’s.
Roland owes me a new Juno-D to pay me back for the trash they stuck me with the original Juno d.. it was pretty much busted right out of the box.. Roland and guitar center both refused to fix or replace it because it was bought by someone who bought it as a gift and lost the receipt... I had to pay a tech to fix it and it broke again before I got to play a single gig with it.. the tech told me it was 'made to break'... Haven't bought another Roland since... Seriously, 8 part?? Welcome to 1989!! KORG BABY!!
Hi! Brent here! I have not had a chance to demo the JUNO-D8 myself yet, so I cannot comment at this time. But, with that said, I'll be happy to pass on the suggestion to compare e.piano and organ sounds between different models to our production team. That would make for an interesting video!
Generally speaking, unless otherwise noted in the video, the audio is captured via line outs to ensure a transparent representation of the tone engine's sound. :)
The JUNO-D8 model uses the same PHA4 action that is featured on the FP60X. It has escapement and triple sensor detection. It is important to note that the JUNO-D6 and JUNO-D7 models do not use the PHA4 action. They use a synth style action.
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for the suggestion! I will be happy to pass on the suggestion to our production team, but we typically try to compare pianos from the same category. The FP30X is a portable digital piano, whereas the PX870 is a console digital piano. There is a console-version of the FP30X called the RP107, which would be a better point of comparison to the PX870.
@@MerriamPianosI understand, I could then compare the aforementioned with the px 870, I've always had doubts between Roland digital pianos vs Casio digital pianos. Thank you for your attention.
I have a Juno DS88. I have not gotten into a great groove with it. I usually stick with my Yamaha DGX660. The piano and organ sounds are just way better in my opinion.
That is certainly fair. The DS88 is not a conventional digital piano in the same way the DGX660, FP30X, or ES120 are. There is some overlap of course, but the DS88 is intended for a different context of use.
Another Juno. Roland recently gave us Juno X, a Boutique Juno, and Roland cloud versions. The Roland SH-4D has a Juno 106 Zen core engine, The Aria J-6 has Juno presets. The Roland Fantom EX and 0 have access to Zen core versions. I think Roland needs to do something new. It looks like a nice device but maybe it's time to try something different that isn't Juno or Jupiter related.
The tech that Roland is including on these updated models is still very much relevant and cutting edge. But, I can certainly understand the sentiment. Perhaps, we will see a more quantum leap from manufacturers in the coming years. Thanks for tuning in and sharing your thoughts! :)
Roland introduced the BMC chips in 2019. BMC stands for Behavioral Modelling Core. They use them in all their newest synths. My RD-88 has 1 BMC chip, my Fantom 06 has 2. According to Roland the top end Fantoms have 4. From what I can tell they run ZenCore, Supernatural, ACB and whatever else Roland has. Plus you can get the ZenCore software and run it on your PC. It appears to be upgradable and expandable and I would imagine they will use that tech for a while. All that will be different is the name of the gear they put the BMC chip in, the capabilities they enable it to do and how you interact with it. Even the most basic FP-10 piano has a BMC chip. Anyways, I hope the info helps. If you don't like where Roland is going, there are other brands. Nothing wrong with owning something from all of them. ;-)
@@MerriamPianos From what I can tell, about everything from Roland 2019 on runs on Roland's versatile BMC chips. One in an FP-10 to 4 in the full blown Fantoms. I think they will be using those for quite a while.
There is also Roland ZENOLOGY Pro Software Synthesizer - $230 on Sweetwater. I didn't have time to try it, but I suspect is has exactly the same sounds as Juno and Fantom. If you want to try something different, try software instruments instead of hardware. For example Steinberg Halion 7 (full version).
I have a korg T1 88key if i connect the out midi in juno's midi in , i play this without problem ! Like the keyboard original ? Is possible play a piano part from the T1 KEY and play another part on the original ? I thing to buy the 6 octave version and play from T1 . Sorry for my enghish ! I m Italian ! Ciao
They certainly sit in the same category more or less. They offer very different touches and tones ultimately. However, there will be a little bit of crossover of course.
Juno-D8 and the Juno-DS88 predecessor both beat the MX88 thoroughly. Better keybed, better sounds, can run on rechargeable AAs (Juno-DS88), better in all ways unless you really want Cubase AI integration, that's where MX88 has the edge. However, then there is the Yamaha CK88 if you don't really need as much of a workstation, absolutely wipes the floor with the Junos and MX in pianos and other sounds. I see Yamaha fans encouraging folks to grab the CK instead of the MX.
@@Jason75913 Okay, I would keep that in mind, but the MX 88 does also have a synth engine with the ability to edit the sound to some extent, does the Juno also have something similar?
@@NabPunk Yes, but the MX requires a PC and a paid app to edit it while the Junos do not. Roland provides an editor if desired and for free, and the PC is optional as sounds and all settings can be fully edited on the keyboard directly.
I would say the piano sounds of the JUNO-D8 are comparable in terms of quality to the RD88. But, at the end of the day, it all comes down to personal preference and taste.
For players that are looking for a software-based solution and have a control, that is certainly a good option. But, the JUNO-D8 offers that tech in a physical piece of hardware, which can be appealing for the gigging musician.
I have not played the Korg Kross 2 88 model. With that said, I'll be happy to pass along the suggestion to our production team. I'm sure they will do their best to tackle a comparison between these two instruments.
Kross2 88 has a funky keybed where the stiffness of the black keys' action may throw you off. Kross2 pianos and most other sounds are inferior to the Juno, but it is packed with numerous other features and even the ability to record audio. It can also load user samples to play across the keybed, which Juno-D cannot at this time. The Kross2 also boasts a classic linear sequencer as opposed to the loop-based sequencer of the Juno. Insert FX routing is easier to customize than on the Juno, too. Performance controls are a botched job, unlike the Juno.
Thanks for the suggestion! We will do our best to tackle that comparison for you, but the JUNDO D8 and PXS6000 are different categories of instruments (synth vs portable piano). We typically compare instruments from the same category.
So its the same half baked loop sequencer as on the fantom? No arranger or linear sequencing? If you want to go further and develop a song you gotta move onto logic. So.... you might as well start in logic!
I am not sure if it is the exact same sequencer technology to be honest. It is important to note that this is a sub $2000 CAD instrument. Naturally, there will be some limitations compared to top-of-the-line workstations that cost three to four times more.
@@christianthompson1473 None, this one is the same, cut-down sequencer found on the Juno-DS line. You record and arrange by ear alone. Most songs can work as chained loops anyway, so it is quite usable. I like it a lot, but if you must have a more traditional sequencer, Logic or Cubase are the way to go these days indeed, or a Korg Krome EX or Akai MPC One.
Intimidating? Sit in front of a grand piano with Chopin's Etude in C-Major in front of you. And try to play it. Now, that's intimidating. Never mind the sheer size and weight of the grand piano. Roland Juno-D intimidating? Those Roland Juno-D don't even have music score stand to intimidate you. And you don't even have to press any buttons, just turn it on, and play the piano patch. That's it, then concentrate on music. If scrolling through preset sounds with a dial is more intimidating than a real grand piano with sheet music in front of if, then I don't really know what to tell you.
Haha that is certainly a fair assessment! The Roland JUNO D series instruments can be both daunting and user friendly depending on how granular you plan on getting with its functionality. But, I certainly understand and agree with your sentiments. :)
Ok, Roland is not making things easy with their nomenclature. They already release a Juno-D in 2005. I own a Juno G. Then came Juno-Di, Juno-Gi, Juno-DS, Juno-X, and now Juno-D series D6, D7 and D8. This is getting worse than their key action names. (Not to mention a whole world of Junos before all of those.)
I can certainly understand the criticism. I think the issue is inevitable for companies that are prolific and have been around for quite sometime. Perhaps, the naming conventions will become a little less obtuse in the future.
@@MerriamPianos "Juno" as a brand name, I can understand. But repeating a model name is just confusing. Roland should harness the power of the rest of the alphabet. 😅
I've noticed they've been going back to simplified names recently: Fantom, Fantom 0, LX, GP, now Juno D with just a single digit number to distinguish between models. I think Fantom already had this issue as well with bring named after a 00s era keyboard. I get it but it makes me wonder where they'll go from here. Also I know you said Juno makes sense as a name, but to add: Juno has also always been Roland's low/mid end general purpose synth for the different eras (named after the partner of Jupiter, their high end synth series). It's just their original ones ended up sounding so great in their own right that they're expensive now. The Juno X is an exception since its (if I'm not being charitable) nostalgia bait for the old Juno aesthetic, unfortunately without the super accurate modelling from the system 8 (which I have and reccomend) or the boutiques.
XP80 => Juno-D => Juno-D LE => Juno-Di => Juno-DS => Juno-D The older Juno-D is still in the used market, it is still a usable instrument as most venues have pretty bad speakers that make even the newer version pretty overkill in sound quality. Juno-G => Juno-Gi => FA-08 => Fantom-0 Your Juno-G has more features than either Juno-D, being from the midrange line instead of the entry-level line. The huge screen on the G is pretty nice, too.
Bro I have Juno Gi 61 FA61 I sold my G6 so I can get the new Fantom then a year later they dropped the EX as a board I still gonna buy the expansion but I’m gonna buy 61 version of the new D!!! This is gonna be my new aux board and small rehearsal board!!!
I am here because Nord is driving me crazy - either the action is bad, the sounds are not compatible, and they’re crazy overpriced. I’ve had a Stage 3 73 for three years, and I’m about to bail.
I am sorry to hear that you have had some bad experiences with your Nord piano. The Roland JUNO-D series instruments are quite impressive, so they are definitely worth consideration if you're on the hunt for a replacement instrument.
Hey Stu,wonderful review as always,i am torn between Juno DS and Juno D,i am planning to buy the 76 version to use in gigs,two questions,does both have a capability to sequence a whole song let say i will sequence a whole song with lots of track involve?lastly,does both has a capability to read a sample file and can assign it to a key?this is a must for me as a gigging musician,thank you very much in advance.
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for the questions. Unfortunately, I have not had a chance to dig into the Roland JUNO-D models yet. We just received our first batch of JUNO-D demo models recently, so I'm looking forward to doing so. With that said, I'll be happy to make the suggestion to our production team to tackle this comparison for you and - if they're able to - cover these particular topics. With that said, some of our helpful community members here may be able to chime in with insights.
Stud…the best of the best…what a musician…by the way to all that kind of Wonderfull players take a look to the chanel of mr. Masataka Kono…another one of a kind
Love my DS in that the sliders are all Midi CC assignable , if these are too ?, it would push me over the edge. Would be a perfect midi controller even more than DS as class complaint. thanks
Hi! Thanks for the question! I just scanned through the user manual and it does not appear to mention whether all of the sliders on the JUNO-D series instruments are all MIDI CC assignable. Perhaps, one of our community members here that has firsthand experience with using the JUNO-D instruments as a MIDI controller will be able to verify.
Whatever Junos Roland did release in the past.. synth or not, I think this product will be very successful. Why? Obviously, it’s affordable, with Zen-core engine, thousands of sounds, super simple interface and controls, yet powerful under the hood. And 8 parts, usb built in audio interface, hammer action piano keybed?!? That’s a no brainer if you ask me. And those who are constantly comparing this line of Roland product with analogue synths in the past, this is not a synthesizer. It’s a piano live performance keyboard with multiple capabilities.
Very well said! The cost to value ratio that these JUNO-D models offer (particularly the D8) is quite impressive. I think Roland has been putting out some fantastic instruments as of late. It is exciting to see what comes next from Roland. :)
It IS a subtractive synthesizer. Every workstation keyboard like this and every digital piano is. Folks comparing this performance instrument to the antique analogue synths with a similar name of the past that are kept alive by cannibalizing other Roland synths of the same model are a very vocal minority of no consequence. Most Junos are entry-level digital sampler instruments with a wide range of sounds for all manner of stage performers in all manner of situations. They are affordable pro alternatives of Roland flagship instruments like the Fantoms. The antique analogue synths named "Juno" are also meant to be lower-cost alternatives to the old Jupiter-8 and whatever other flagship synths from back then. The synth nerds like to overlook these facts. ;)
Do you know if the piano sounds in this video below can be added to Juno D like the last Juno DS? ruclips.net/video/ZO7Qr1Uebfo/видео.htmlsi=1TzwmCdXbxzRC43q
I'd be surprised if they leave out user multisamples. If it is currently missing, it may be added later. People request this feature so much that it was added to Juno-DS, among other past products. Korg had to add it to several of their own products. Yamaha outright increased user memory for custom samples for their MODX+ line, and memory for user samples was already a major feature of the original MODX and MOXF keyboards.
The PHA50 is a heavier action with longer keys. It is also more costly to make. In some cases, Roland uses the PHA4 action to be able to offer an instrument at a more affordable price point, while making it more portable due to the weight and more compact enclosure size.
@@MerriamPianos Yeah, I understand, but the issue with the PHA-4 is its response. The way it bounces back is really slow compared to the PHA-50, which makes playing riffs or synth parts difficult due to the action. It feels pressing down but when it bounced back up and you press it again it just…I don’t know if you understand what I’m trying to say lol
Oh wow, I'm seeing in the Reference manual that the adjustable quantization from Juno-DS line was not carried over. On the older Junos, you could set quantization to zero if you wanted none during recording.
To me this is mostly performance and not quite a workstation keyboard. And that's fine. For complete DAW-less song composition and recording capabilities, you'd need to step up to Fantom-0 at least. Roland is following the Yamaha marketing strategy of product differentiation, mostly through software. Something for every budget.
To me the piano on this sounds terrible. Plus there's absolutely none of the Supernatural sounds.So the piano on this is the most particular sound that is affected by their Supernatural piano sound Which for some reason they kept off of this. It's a shame because I really do like all the rest of the sounds that I've heard on this. But as usual Roland never gives everything you need in one product.
The JUNO D is a synthesizer opposed to a formal digital piano. At the end of the day, it all comes down to a matter of preference and subjectivity. Not every instrument will resonate with every player of course.
@@equinoxpete One of the free EXZ expansions available for Juno-D and Fantom-0 contains a "Premier Grand" piano preset that puts those Supernatural pianos to shame. But also consider that there are better alternatives for piano like FP30X, RD88, and much more. Juno-D and the Fantoms are more aimed at band players and other stage performers who want a wide variety of sounds beyond what you get in most formal digital pianos.
@@Jason75913 it would be nice just to get something that has everything that you want. Unfortunately along with great piano sounds I used to play in a band where I played Keys even though I'm a guitar player, I played keys for maybe eight songs out of the night, I like to do like the taped strings and pads have some organs etc. Thanks for getting back to me. really love your videos.
Niether Roland Nor Yamaha has anything new to offer.Roland 4 patials of a tone are quite old and yamahas has AWM and FM. After so many years they are still producing same technology in new hardwares keyboards with new names made up of now plastic earlier metal.
I think Roland has made some substantial contributions recently. The new sensor systems in the latest LX and GP models are fantastic for instance. Furthermore, the inclusion of ZEN-Core technology at more affordable price points is also quite impressive and exciting!
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Terrific product review as always Stu! The live looping part was fabulous!
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for tuning in! We're glad you enjoyed Stu's video review/demo! :)
Any reason why there is no music stand on this device? From a technical point of view I would consider a synth like the Juno D8 in favor of a digital piano. But from a practical point of view I stick with my Digital piano, because of the music stand.
Apart from the awesome Piano reviews Stu does, we need to see more workstation and synth reviews like this!. Fantastic playing as always.
Hi! Brent here! We're glad you enjoyed it. I'll be happy to pass on the feedback to Stu and the production team. More deep dives into workstations and synths would certainly be exciting. :)
Hi Stu. Does this come with a pedal?
Thanks bro nice review 🎉 and like that short demonstration nice chords i will try it
Thanks so much for tuning in! We're glad you liked the review and demo! :)
As a guitar player who plays the occasional KB part in rock/blues/soul cover bands, I need something that (1) has great essential piano sounds (2) EP sounds (3) Organ sounds, and (4) sounds I will need to cover songs from 60-s to 2000s. As a software developer, I have a natural desire to get the flagship FANTOM and go down the rabbit hole, but I have to accept that 90-something percent of what I will use a kb for is POSSIBLY available in the D series.
I will need more info on what kind of sounds I get OOB or easily downloadable from Roland before I can feel certain about that. I don't want to spend hours and hours tweaking kb sounds at this stage because I am not doing original music with it (yet). So far I haven't heard any demos that sound like the #1 sound I am thinking of for one of my bands. I also haven't heard the string sounds much. A lot of the demos are oriented toward electronic music players.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for watching and writing in! Given what you have described, I would personally suggest exploring instruments like the Roland RD88 EX, Roland FP-E50, and Roland FANTOM-08. These will likely be more aligned with your specific context of use.
Thank you for this review. This is exactly what I was hoping for this week (thinking of getting Juno-D6)
You're welcome! We're glad this worked out well timing-wise for the line of instruments that you were interested in. :)
Great explanation Mr Stu! Can you tell me if this keyboard Juno D88 has built in speakers?
As usual a very nice presentation Stu, complemented by your highly skilled playing. I always enjoy your reviews and demos🎉
Hi! Brent here! Thank you so much for tuning in! We're glad you have enjoyed Stu's reviews and playing excerpts. :)
Thank you for the excellent review. Perhaps you have an answer: As an acoustic pianist, I’ve often wondered why the best-sounding sampled piano libraries used in DAWs almost always surpass the piano sounds found on most digital pianos and synthesizers, regardless of brand? I find them barely acceptable, even the piano sounds from the most expensive keyboards and synthesizers.
Because your computer is more powerful than digital pianos and is more capable of running high quality samples.
Vst sample libraries are also really big. For example keyscape takes up 80gb.
Vsts you usually listen through studio monitors or headphones, which usually are better quality than internal speakers of digital piano
You're welcome! Thanks for tuning in! Generally speaking, the file size, fidelity, and number of sample layers are able to be higher with VSTs than digital pianos due to the fact that personal computers are far more powerful than those onboard digital instruments. I would argue that there are a few exceptions when you get to the very top-end digital/hybrid pianos though.
@@cirisirpula152 Thank you for the feedback. I would have thought that this could have been resolved by Roland and Korg given today's advancements.
@@Beyondabsence I think Roland is using modeled pianos instead of samples. Similar to what Pianoteq is doing on vst side. That basically solves the processing power and size problems. But most companies still use samples.
@@cirisirpula152 thanks again
Always look forward to Stu's takes on these boards. As a user of a Roland Juno DS 88 as purely midi controller for the past six years I'm only tempted by this because of the class compliant USB-C powered audio. While the sounds again are kind of mediocre like my DS you can use your iPad or anything else without drivers. Plus being able to power it over USB. The DS could use AA batteries this is nicer.
Thank you for taking the time to tune in and share your thoughts! We appreciate it immensely. :)
Thanks, nice simple fun board.
You're welcome! For sure! It is quite user friendly and fun to play on. :)
Great overview. The D-8 has notable upgrades over the DS88, most significantly the inclusion of the PHA-4 action. I haven't put my hands on a D-6 or D-7 yet so cannot comment on the synth key action; however I loved the keys on the DS61. The ability to be powered from USB power packs is a nice addition. Some minor upgrades here and there but as someone who has owned a DS61 for years I was a bit let down that they have limited some features as well. I appreciated that you were basically getting Fantom electronics in cheaper hardware with the DS line (even though you had to menu dive to access the full power hidden in there). I agree with you though that these changes are not going to be relevant to the average buyer and it remains a top tier option.
Thank you kindly! We appreciate you taking the time to watch the video and write in with your insights. Inevitably, there are going to be some changes that fans of the predecessor models may not be a fan of, but, overall, I would say that the new JUNDO D series instruments are an exciting step forward from Roland. :)
@@MerriamPianos I want to be clear, I'm not dissing the new models :). They are solid. I'm just big on weaseling as much power as possible out of something for which I paid as little as I could. The DS line was particularly good for that as I assume Roland was just dual-purposing the Fantom chips rather than designing a different chip for the DS line. I'm not *really* the consumer they're aiming at with the Juno line, just happy to take advantage of what ended up in it for whatever reason.
Yes, the Juno DS 88 key action felt very soft and squishy, like a wet sponge - a dealbreaker. The PHA-4 is a nice keyboard action, a significant and welcome change in the Juno D 88 key.
I got a chance to test this at Guitar Center and it was in the same section as the RD08, which I was looking for. I was disappointed in the texture of the RD08 keys and the weight of the keys. Conversely, I really liked both of those items on the Juno. I will be spending a little extra to get this one.
We're happy to hear that you had a chance to audition both models! That is interesting to hear that you felt a stark contrast between the two actions. But, it depends on which models you were auditioning. The Roland RD08 and JUNO-D8 both use the same PHA4 action. However, if you were testing out the JUNO-D6 or D7 models, they use an entirely different synth-style action. The texture of those keys are markedly different of course. Thanks for tuning in and sharing your thoughts! We appreciate it. :)
This is an excellent review, you got a new subscriber.
Thank you so much! We appreciate the subscription! :)
Excellent presentation
Thank you! We appreciate you tuning in. :)
I am still using an XP-30. Would this be a worthwhile upgrade? The XP-30 is a real pain to use because of the menu structure. I've had it for 20+ years and I've still never really figured this thing out.
Hi there! It is a matter of subjectivity of course. Some players prefer older models because they are very accustomed to the feel and sounds they offer. With that said, these new JUNO-D models offer the latest and greatest tech/sounds from Roland.
I am also using xp 30.
Thinking to change to D6
This competes directly (even price wise) with the Yamaha CK and personally I like this more. Especially the 88 key version, the PHA4 action is much better than the equivalent GHS.
For sure! It is an impressive instrument for the money. The PHA4 action is fantastic. :)
A great overview, as always with Merriam Music.🙂 Though I am a huge fan of Kawai, Roland, Yamaha and Korg stage pianos, there is a whole new musical universe for me that is displayed here and ready to discover.🙂 Viva la musica! 🎼🎹
Thank you kindly! I couldn't agree more. It is a very exciting time for the digital piano world! :)
I always enjoy Stu’s videos for all of Roland keyboards which is my preference for keyboards. He’s is good with all of the keyboards and very knowledgeable of them thanks for this video. I’m undecided between the Juno-D and RD 88. Does the Juno offer a supernatural piano as well.
Thank you kindly for tuning in! I'll be happy to share the kind words with Stu. I don't believe the SuperNATURAL piano tones are available for the JUNO D models. With that said, the FANTOM-0 models do offer those tones.
Brooo!! Sweetwater has this at an $850 difference from the Fantom-08 ($1299.99 vs $2,149.99). Stu MUST make a comparison video that is NO LESS than 30 minutes long!🤣
C'mon, Stu! Help me decide!!
I have Fantom 06 for production and RD-88 for piano feel. Anyways, the Fantoms also have the SuperNatural pianos and EPs, and the virtual tonewheel organ. I have a VR-730 too and if you play any Hammond organ, this is a must the Juno lacks. Stu does an excellent job demoing as always. But it really depends on what you need and can afford. The Fantom 0 series has twice what the Juno has and then some. Also check used and demos at Sweetwater and Guitar Center. I got my Fantom 06 used from GC at a very good price.
Haha I will be happy to pass on the suggestion to Stu and the production team, but I can't promise anything! There are a lot of great instruments to choose from the Roland line. That is for sure! :)
@@PatrickRosenbalm Although the ease of use is huge..I have a MODX6 and just bought the CK61 and man its way easier on stage to get what you want....I think for live performance this must be considered
@@wireguy123 I checked those out before I bought what I did. I think the Rolands are better. No slam against Yamaha, I own some of their gear too. Try before you buy if you can.
Ha I didn’t see this I also asked for comparison video. Because I can’t decide. Help us Stu! Too bad there is no store like this in Seattle. I used to own a Juno and vr-730 neither of which had the premium Roland sound at the time which was super natural….yamaha reface yc can sit on top of premium piano and with midi connection you can get draw bars..full size keys and a “little” double manual action… the reface series is still viable/professional and should not be underestimated… another music sore in England used it in a blindfolded organ showdown against the big boys and did well has the faders you are looking for. Have a nice day.
Good review
Thanks so much! :)
Is the main piano sound on the new Juno D same as in the FP30X? Thank you.
Hi there! I am not entirely sure if they are the exact same sample set to be honest. They do sound a little different, but that could also be result of the different speaker systems. I'll have to inquire with our Roland reps about that.
Stu you are the best. Seriously. I am sorry to say this but that last Roland sound engine video is two years old. Please do another Roland comparison video. I appreciate what both you and Roland are doing….i may need a spread sheet at this point ….key action/price/sound engines/features/speakers. Just for the record the ph4 action spiel is always appreciated from you Stu… as you know the ph4 action is available at many price points and for many advanced users a critical part of decision making process…ph4/ph50….etc….
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for watching! We're glad to hear that you have been enjoying our channel and videos. I will be happy to pass along the feedback to our production crew. Maybe it is time to take another deep dive into Roland tone engines. ;)
Thanks for the video. Is the keybed used in 88 version same as RD 88 ? If so, how the keybed reacts with the sound ? Same, lighter or heavy ?
You're very welcome! The RD88 and Juno D8 both use the PHA4 action. To that point, the overall playing experience is virtually the same.
@@MerriamPianosthanks for the reply.
Is the video blurred at 2:03 or is his hand faster than the speed of light?
Haha it is possible that Stu is breaking the speed of light barrier. ;)
You must have like 1 week of piano playing experience 😂
I play piano and guitar but just by ear but I'm going to get lessons in theory and reading music. I got into beat making some years back and still sharpening there. My question is would this be a nice tandem for a MPC live and an actual DAW. I'm sure it does but my learning anxiety is causing me to ask just in case lol. Because this piece will be my next purchase though I'm buying it mostly to learn and get better on.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here. Thanks for the question! If you are looking for an instrument to double as a production/performance tool as well as a digital piano to learn/study on, I think the JUNO-D8 model in particular would be an excellent choice! The only thing to keep in mind with the D6 and D7 models is that they don't have fully-weighted piano actions. Instead, they use a much lighter synth-style action, which is generally not a great fit for traditional piano playing. Thanks again and hope this helps!
@MerriamPianos thanks Brent! I'm familiar with both light and heavier weighted keys though I'm thinking whomever i study with will probably have options. Either way I'm going all in this time around with learning this instrument. I appreciate the pep talk in regards to the learning curve. It helps more than you think.
Hi Stu! Does the Juno D8 and RD 88Ex share the same presets and sound engine?
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for reaching out! The RD88EX uses the SuperNATURAL Piano, SuperNATURAL E-Piano, and ZEN-Core tone engines, while the JUNO-D8 used the ZEN-Core primarily. There is some overlap between the two models in terms of sounds/pre-sets, but they are not the exact same libraries given the additional tone engines on the RD88EX.
The Yamaha DGX670 has been the answer to my needs. This Juno D looks intimidating to me.
That is certainly fair! The DGX670 and FP-E50 have some overlapping features, but are a little bit more user friendly.
The problem with the dgx is it sounds like elevator music when you compose anything on it.
Many thanks for the review! While I am not target audience (yet), I like the features. However what surprises me that Roland consistently neglects music rests (same story with Fantom-0 for example). I get it, it is stage piano so you won't it attach it always but providing the ability (not even mentioning the rest itself) to attach it at home for practicing IMHO is the way to go. It seems according to Roland you either have to buy second keyboard (made by Roland as well I guess 🙂) or buy a stand just for the sake of attaching music rest. Providing two holes or a slot... man, Roland is stubborn.
You're welcome! Thank you so much for tuning in! I can understand the commentary about the music rest. They are generally omitted on stage pianos (by many manufacturers in fact). But, having some type of universal music rest option for these stage models would be welcomed by many users of course.
Hi. Would it be a good idea to make a comparison video between the fantom 08 and this one? We would really appreciate actually as I am actually about to decide on one of them. I am a fan of your reviews and comparisons. Thanks for all
Hi there! Thanks for the suggestion! I'll certainly pass it along to our production team. I'm sure they will do their best to tackle a comparison video if possible. There are several other videos in the queue at the moment however.
❤ mr fast fingers
I'll be happy to pass along the kind words to Stu on your behalf. :)
hello, it the action 'practically' the same as the fantom-08? sometime keyboards share the same keybed 'by name eg pha-50' i've tried some roland KF-10 & fp-90x were turned off and realized the feel of the keys differ - the fp-90 felt to me heavier and the return of pressed key were slower, i love the action of the kf-10 a lot but not it's price, it has fast actions not too light not too heavy
Hi! Brent here! Yes, the FANTOM-08 and JUNO-D8 both use the PHA4 action. With that said, the enclosure design that the action is fitted into will have some impact on the overall feel, hence the differences you detected between the FP90X and KF10 (which both use the PHA50).
Hey, I’m looking for a digital piano with built-in speakers that I can also connect to my MacBook and use as a MIDI controller. Any suggestions for a good option within a budget?
Thanks for the question! It depends on what the budget is. If you're looking for the most affordable options, I'd strongly recommend the Roland FP10 and FP30X. They are excellent pianos with a great action. :)
@@MerriamPianos I’m considering in FP30x after watching your review video. Thanks!
What is the action like on the D6/7? I have a Roland C-30 harpsichord/organ/forte piano which has a very light action that I have become accustomed to. I have written to Roland with my question but do not anticipate that I'll receive a reply.
Hi there! The JUNO-D6 and JUNO-D7 models use synth action keys opposed to a fully-weighted touch like the D8 model. With that said, if you have become accustomed to a very light action, you may very well be at home with the D6 and D7 models. I would recommend testing them out in person first if you are concerned about the action's weighting if possible.
Awesome review. How cparts can be layered please?
Thanks so much! We appreciate you tuning in. Are you referring to how many patches can be layered simultaneously or the number of layers for the sequencer?
@@MerriamPianos i was referring to the number of patches that can be layered. Thanks for your answer.
OK, so if I am piano shopping - that is looking at piano lessons and looking at gear, can I get a synth and use it for lessons and for making up my own music? would you consider doing a compare of say the Juno D 88 key version and a near Roland digital piano - the FP 60X (or whatever makes sense?) I am wondering why you would get a digital piano over a synth... or vice versa...
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for the question! If you are intending to use the piano for piano practice/studying, I would advise a formal digital piano (such as the FP30X or FP60X). The digital pianos typically have better piano tones, which will be more rewarding in the long run for piano playing. However, if you plan on branching out into music production, arranging, or performance, crossover models like the JUNO-D8, RD88 EX, and FP-E50 may be very appealing.
which keybed has better action: of roland juno d08 or yamaha ck88?
It really comes down to a matter of personal preference. I personally favour the JUNO-D8's PHA4 action. I find it to be more authentic to an acoustic piano feel.
Could you compare Juno D8 vs Fantom 08? Here the prices are similar.
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll pass it along to our production team. I'm sure they will do their best to tackle that for you. :)
Are the Supernatural Pianos available for this keyboard via the expansion slots
I don't believe so. It is possible that might be a possibility later. The FANTOM-0 series instruments have access to the SuperNATURAL piano tones though.
One of the free EXZ expansions for Fantom-0 and Juno-D has a "Premier grand piano" preset that makes the middling Supernatural pianos sound dull and lifeless. Same applies to the older Juno-DS88 and FA-08 and the free Axial expansions for them.
Thanks ! That’s good to know
Does the Juno D supports a triple Pedal? Not just sustain for every subsequently pressed key, but also to sustain just a single pressed key without sustaining all subsequent pressed keys?
According to the website literature from Roland, the JUNO-D instruments are only compatible with the DP2 and DP10 single sustain pedals.
Hello, can you kindly tell me your opinion, do you think its piano sound/s are comparable with casio privia 6000? or does it fall short by a lot! ?
It really comes down to musical preferences. I would personally rate the PXS6000's acoustic piano tones as being more authentic, but that is my opinion. :)
@ Thank you sir..
Roland Juno D lost the independently modulable serial filters that Juno DS has! For twice the boot time! And half the multitimbrality? Some serious omitions here! What would be the advantages than?
Hi there! One of the big upgrades to the D8 specifically is the inclusion of the PHA4 action. Inevitably, for players that enjoyed some of the features/functions of the predecessor models, there might be some resistance to embracing these new models.
What would be better? Junod6 or rd-08?
It really depends on context of use. If you're looking for a more versatile stage piano, I think the RD08 is the better option. However, if you're looking for a lot of synth capabilities with some crossover, the JUNO-D6 would be more appropriate. It is also important to note that the RD08 has a fully-weighted piano action, whereas the JUNO-D6 has a synth action.
Is the new Juno series full 16 part multitimbral? How do you use it with a DAW for 16 part recording? The SCENE mode is 8 parts, but no one is saying whether there is a dedicated 16 part multi mode.
Hi there! I believe it is 8-part multi-timbral.
@@MerriamPianos Wow that’s a bummer. I wonder why Roland did this. My old Juno Di was 16 part multitimbral and had a software editor. Perhaps Roland locked the 16 part multitimbral to the playback of midi files with the new models.
@@squeakD No, they cut it down, but in exchange, there is now per-part EQ + MFX. Junos are generally affordable alternatives to Roland's Fantoms, so they are made with less capability. It is a shame to go from the 16-part Juno-DS and Juno-Di to the 8-part Juno-D, but it is not without its advantages. Plus Roland Cloud integration, because that is Roland's thing now.
Stick to your Juno-Di, it is still an excellent keyboard and has most of the same sounds as this 2024 Juno-D. If you ever want an upgrade 88-key piano, look at the RD-88, FP30X, FP60X, or FP-10, in my opinion.
@@Jason75913 I don’t own the JunoDi anymore. Sold it several years ago. I have a Roland Fantom 06. Just think it’s odd for Roland to cut the ability of this Juno’s DAW capabilities in half compared to the previous models. All those great sounds and limited to only 8 parts via a DAW. Internal sequencer limitations tend be addressed by use of DAW’s.
Roland owes me a new Juno-D to pay me back for the trash they stuck me with the original Juno d.. it was pretty much busted right out of the box.. Roland and guitar center both refused to fix or replace it because it was bought by someone who bought it as a gift and lost the receipt... I had to pay a tech to fix it and it broke again before I got to play a single gig with it.. the tech told me it was 'made to break'... Haven't bought another Roland since... Seriously, 8 part?? Welcome to 1989!! KORG BABY!!
How are the E pianos? Same ones as in the RD88, borrowed from the RD800/2000... sounds a bit less premium to me in this video.
Hi! Brent here! I have not had a chance to demo the JUNO-D8 myself yet, so I cannot comment at this time. But, with that said, I'll be happy to pass on the suggestion to compare e.piano and organ sounds between different models to our production team. That would make for an interesting video!
This board using with the kawaii mp7se might be quite a fun time
For sure! That could definitely be a fun combo. :)
Was the sound of the keyboard taken direct from the outputs, or from a room mic?
Generally speaking, unless otherwise noted in the video, the audio is captured via line outs to ensure a transparent representation of the tone engine's sound. :)
Thanks for the reply. I am aware you usually use the line outs. It's just that the sound seems thin, maybe it's my ears. Great playing as always.
Fun keyboard 😊
Absolutely! Thanks for tuning in! :)
Juno D vs RD 88 , an in depth comparison between them would be nice
Thanks for the suggestion! We will do our best to tackle that for you. :)
Is the keybed feel same as fp60x?(Like triple sensor and escapement)
The JUNO-D8 model uses the same PHA4 action that is featured on the FP60X. It has escapement and triple sensor detection. It is important to note that the JUNO-D6 and JUNO-D7 models do not use the PHA4 action. They use a synth style action.
@MerriamPianos Thanks for Reply
@MerriamPianos Thanks for Reply
Stu can you compare the Roland Fp-30x and Casio px 870 digital pianos?
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for the suggestion! I will be happy to pass on the suggestion to our production team, but we typically try to compare pianos from the same category. The FP30X is a portable digital piano, whereas the PX870 is a console digital piano. There is a console-version of the FP30X called the RP107, which would be a better point of comparison to the PX870.
@@MerriamPianosI understand, I could then compare the aforementioned with the px 870, I've always had doubts between Roland digital pianos vs Casio digital pianos. Thank you for your attention.
I have a Juno DS88. I have not gotten into a great groove with it. I usually stick with my Yamaha DGX660. The piano and organ sounds are just way better in my opinion.
They are different instruments for different kinds of people and situations. Have you tried the Yamaha P-125 or Roland FP30X?
That is certainly fair. The DS88 is not a conventional digital piano in the same way the DGX660, FP30X, or ES120 are. There is some overlap of course, but the DS88 is intended for a different context of use.
@@Jason75913 Not yet, but always up for trying a new keyboard!
Another Juno. Roland recently gave us Juno X, a Boutique Juno, and Roland cloud versions. The Roland SH-4D has a Juno 106 Zen core engine, The Aria J-6 has Juno presets. The Roland Fantom EX and 0 have access to Zen core versions. I think Roland needs to do something new.
It looks like a nice device but maybe it's time to try something different that isn't Juno or Jupiter related.
The tech that Roland is including on these updated models is still very much relevant and cutting edge. But, I can certainly understand the sentiment. Perhaps, we will see a more quantum leap from manufacturers in the coming years. Thanks for tuning in and sharing your thoughts! :)
@@matthewgaines10 it is just a name
Roland introduced the BMC chips in 2019. BMC stands for Behavioral Modelling Core. They use them in all their newest synths. My RD-88 has 1 BMC chip, my Fantom 06 has 2. According to Roland the top end Fantoms have 4. From what I can tell they run ZenCore, Supernatural, ACB and whatever else Roland has. Plus you can get the ZenCore software and run it on your PC. It appears to be upgradable and expandable and I would imagine they will use that tech for a while. All that will be different is the name of the gear they put the BMC chip in, the capabilities they enable it to do and how you interact with it. Even the most basic FP-10 piano has a BMC chip. Anyways, I hope the info helps. If you don't like where Roland is going, there are other brands. Nothing wrong with owning something from all of them. ;-)
@@MerriamPianos From what I can tell, about everything from Roland 2019 on runs on Roland's versatile BMC chips. One in an FP-10 to 4 in the full blown Fantoms. I think they will be using those for quite a while.
There is also Roland ZENOLOGY Pro Software Synthesizer - $230 on Sweetwater. I didn't have time to try it, but I suspect is has exactly the same sounds as Juno and Fantom. If you want to try something different, try software instruments instead of hardware. For example Steinberg Halion 7 (full version).
I have a korg T1 88key if i connect the out midi in juno's midi in , i play this without problem ! Like the keyboard original ? Is possible play a piano part from the T1 KEY and play another part on the original ? I thing to buy the 6 octave version and play from T1 . Sorry for my enghish ! I m Italian ! Ciao
Yup - you could use another piano to control the sounds onboard another instrument like the JUNO D instruments via the MIDI connectivity options. :)
@@MerriamPianosok ! Thanks
In this keyboard master key + - feature is available? This is my a normal query but no one not answering m
While I don't have the user manual on hand, after a brief search it appears that you can adjust/transpose the Master Key.
I believe the Juno D is probably gonna compete with the MX 88 by Yamaha, but the MX 88 is 7 years old, I wonder what the differences between them are.
They certainly sit in the same category more or less. They offer very different touches and tones ultimately. However, there will be a little bit of crossover of course.
Juno-D8 and the Juno-DS88 predecessor both beat the MX88 thoroughly. Better keybed, better sounds, can run on rechargeable AAs (Juno-DS88), better in all ways unless you really want Cubase AI integration, that's where MX88 has the edge. However, then there is the Yamaha CK88 if you don't really need as much of a workstation, absolutely wipes the floor with the Junos and MX in pianos and other sounds. I see Yamaha fans encouraging folks to grab the CK instead of the MX.
@@Jason75913 Okay, I would keep that in mind, but the MX 88 does also have a synth engine with the ability to edit the sound to some extent, does the Juno also have something similar?
@@NabPunk Yes, but the MX requires a PC and a paid app to edit it while the Junos do not. Roland provides an editor if desired and for free, and the PC is optional as sounds and all settings can be fully edited on the keyboard directly.
How accurate are the Piano sounds, in comparison to the RD-88 or the RD88-EX?
I would say the piano sounds of the JUNO-D8 are comparable in terms of quality to the RD88. But, at the end of the day, it all comes down to personal preference and taste.
Far less accurate if you compare the few RD exclusive presets. As far as the Zen-Core presets both share, no difference.
@@Jason75913Agree … I have the GoKeys5 with the ZenCore sounds … the pianos are a bit synthetic
if one get Roland - ZENOLOGY Pro v2 you dont need this synth it give you all you get with this synth and more
For players that are looking for a software-based solution and have a control, that is certainly a good option. But, the JUNO-D8 offers that tech in a physical piece of hardware, which can be appealing for the gigging musician.
does it have scale ton ?
Hi there! Sorry - I don't understand the question.
How does it compare to Korg Kross 2 88?
I have not played the Korg Kross 2 88 model. With that said, I'll be happy to pass along the suggestion to our production team. I'm sure they will do their best to tackle a comparison between these two instruments.
Kross2 88 has a funky keybed where the stiffness of the black keys' action may throw you off.
Kross2 pianos and most other sounds are inferior to the Juno, but it is packed with numerous other features and even the ability to record audio. It can also load user samples to play across the keybed, which Juno-D cannot at this time. The Kross2 also boasts a classic linear sequencer as opposed to the loop-based sequencer of the Juno. Insert FX routing is easier to customize than on the Juno, too. Performance controls are a botched job, unlike the Juno.
Roland Juno d made in Japan?
Roland digital pianos are made in Malaysia with the exception of the KF10, which is made in Japan.
JunoD8 vs PXS6000?
Thanks for the suggestion! We will do our best to tackle that comparison for you, but the JUNDO D8 and PXS6000 are different categories of instruments (synth vs portable piano). We typically compare instruments from the same category.
So its the same half baked loop sequencer as on the fantom? No arranger or linear sequencing? If you want to go further and develop a song you gotta move onto logic. So.... you might as well start in logic!
I am not sure if it is the exact same sequencer technology to be honest. It is important to note that this is a sub $2000 CAD instrument. Naturally, there will be some limitations compared to top-of-the-line workstations that cost three to four times more.
@@MerriamPianos so no note edit display?
@@christianthompson1473 None, this one is the same, cut-down sequencer found on the Juno-DS line. You record and arrange by ear alone. Most songs can work as chained loops anyway, so it is quite usable. I like it a lot, but if you must have a more traditional sequencer, Logic or Cubase are the way to go these days indeed, or a Korg Krome EX or Akai MPC One.
@@Jason75913 yes thanks for the info. I use the mpc key37... and logic. 👍
Intimidating? Sit in front of a grand piano with Chopin's Etude in C-Major in front of you. And try to play it. Now, that's intimidating. Never mind the sheer size and weight of the grand piano. Roland Juno-D intimidating? Those Roland Juno-D don't even have music score stand to intimidate you. And you don't even have to press any buttons, just turn it on, and play the piano patch. That's it, then concentrate on music. If scrolling through preset sounds with a dial is more intimidating than a real grand piano with sheet music in front of if, then I don't really know what to tell you.
Haha that is certainly a fair assessment! The Roland JUNO D series instruments can be both daunting and user friendly depending on how granular you plan on getting with its functionality. But, I certainly understand and agree with your sentiments. :)
Ok, Roland is not making things easy with their nomenclature. They already release a Juno-D in 2005. I own a Juno G. Then came Juno-Di, Juno-Gi, Juno-DS, Juno-X, and now Juno-D series D6, D7 and D8. This is getting worse than their key action names. (Not to mention a whole world of Junos before all of those.)
I can certainly understand the criticism. I think the issue is inevitable for companies that are prolific and have been around for quite sometime. Perhaps, the naming conventions will become a little less obtuse in the future.
@@MerriamPianos "Juno" as a brand name, I can understand. But repeating a model name is just confusing. Roland should harness the power of the rest of the alphabet. 😅
I've noticed they've been going back to simplified names recently: Fantom, Fantom 0, LX, GP, now Juno D with just a single digit number to distinguish between models. I think Fantom already had this issue as well with bring named after a 00s era keyboard. I get it but it makes me wonder where they'll go from here.
Also I know you said Juno makes sense as a name, but to add: Juno has also always been Roland's low/mid end general purpose synth for the different eras (named after the partner of Jupiter, their high end synth series). It's just their original ones ended up sounding so great in their own right that they're expensive now. The Juno X is an exception since its (if I'm not being charitable) nostalgia bait for the old Juno aesthetic, unfortunately without the super accurate modelling from the system 8 (which I have and reccomend) or the boutiques.
XP80 => Juno-D => Juno-D LE => Juno-Di => Juno-DS => Juno-D
The older Juno-D is still in the used market, it is still a usable instrument as most venues have pretty bad speakers that make even the newer version pretty overkill in sound quality.
Juno-G => Juno-Gi => FA-08 => Fantom-0
Your Juno-G has more features than either Juno-D, being from the midrange line instead of the entry-level line. The huge screen on the G is pretty nice, too.
Bro I have Juno Gi 61 FA61 I sold my G6 so I can get the new Fantom then a year later they dropped the EX as a board I still gonna buy the expansion but I’m gonna buy 61 version of the new D!!! This is gonna be my new aux board and small rehearsal board!!!
I am Indian. Where to buy it?
I am not sure where there are dealers in your region. There should be some info listed on Roland's site however.
I am here because Nord is driving me crazy - either the action is bad, the sounds are not compatible, and they’re crazy overpriced. I’ve had a Stage 3 73 for three years, and I’m about to bail.
I am sorry to hear that you have had some bad experiences with your Nord piano. The Roland JUNO-D series instruments are quite impressive, so they are definitely worth consideration if you're on the hunt for a replacement instrument.
Hey Stu,wonderful review as always,i am torn between Juno DS and Juno D,i am planning to buy the 76 version to use in gigs,two questions,does both have a capability to sequence a whole song let say i will sequence a whole song with lots of track involve?lastly,does both has a capability to read a sample file and can assign it to a key?this is a must for me as a gigging musician,thank you very much in advance.
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for the questions. Unfortunately, I have not had a chance to dig into the Roland JUNO-D models yet. We just received our first batch of JUNO-D demo models recently, so I'm looking forward to doing so. With that said, I'll be happy to make the suggestion to our production team to tackle this comparison for you and - if they're able to - cover these particular topics. With that said, some of our helpful community members here may be able to chime in with insights.
@@MerriamPianos Thanks Brent
Why only 64 polyphony according to manual?
I believe the max polyphony is 256.
@@MerriamPianos People have noticed that Roland is being deceptive with that number.
make sure you are not looking a t the info for the 2005 Juno-D instead of this 2024 Juno-D
@@MerriamPianosThanks.
@@Jason75913Thanks for the info 👍🏻
Well if you didn’t already know…Stu is the man!!
I'll be sure to pass on the kind words to him for you! I know he appreciates it. :)
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Thanks for watching! :)
I meant wave expansion
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Stud…the best of the best…what a musician…by the way to all that kind of Wonderfull players take a look to the chanel of mr. Masataka Kono…another one of a kind
Thank you for tuning in! I'll be happy to pass on your compliments to Stu for you. :)
Love my DS in that the sliders are all Midi CC assignable , if these are too ?, it would push me over the edge. Would be a perfect midi controller even more than DS as class complaint. thanks
Hi! Thanks for the question! I just scanned through the user manual and it does not appear to mention whether all of the sliders on the JUNO-D series instruments are all MIDI CC assignable. Perhaps, one of our community members here that has firsthand experience with using the JUNO-D instruments as a MIDI controller will be able to verify.
Whatever Junos Roland did release in the past.. synth or not, I think this product will be very successful. Why? Obviously, it’s affordable, with Zen-core engine, thousands of sounds, super simple interface and controls, yet powerful under the hood. And 8 parts, usb built in audio interface, hammer action piano keybed?!? That’s a no brainer if you ask me. And those who are constantly comparing this line of Roland product with analogue synths in the past, this is not a synthesizer. It’s a piano live performance keyboard with multiple capabilities.
Very well said! The cost to value ratio that these JUNO-D models offer (particularly the D8) is quite impressive. I think Roland has been putting out some fantastic instruments as of late. It is exciting to see what comes next from Roland. :)
It IS a subtractive synthesizer. Every workstation keyboard like this and every digital piano is.
Folks comparing this performance instrument to the antique analogue synths with a similar name of the past that are kept alive by cannibalizing other Roland synths of the same model are a very vocal minority of no consequence. Most Junos are entry-level digital sampler instruments with a wide range of sounds for all manner of stage performers in all manner of situations. They are affordable pro alternatives of Roland flagship instruments like the Fantoms. The antique analogue synths named "Juno" are also meant to be lower-cost alternatives to the old Jupiter-8 and whatever other flagship synths from back then. The synth nerds like to overlook these facts. ;)
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Do you know if the piano sounds in this video below can be added to Juno D like the last Juno DS?
ruclips.net/video/ZO7Qr1Uebfo/видео.htmlsi=1TzwmCdXbxzRC43q
Hi! Brent here! I am not entirely sure to be honest. Given that this is a new model, I haven't taken a full deep dive into the D8 literature yet.
I'd be surprised if they leave out user multisamples. If it is currently missing, it may be added later. People request this feature so much that it was added to Juno-DS, among other past products. Korg had to add it to several of their own products. Yamaha outright increased user memory for custom samples for their MODX+ line, and memory for user samples was already a major feature of the original MODX and MOXF keyboards.
I just hate that PHA-4 Keybed why can’t Roland just make
Everything with the PHA-50
The PHA50 is a heavier action with longer keys. It is also more costly to make. In some cases, Roland uses the PHA4 action to be able to offer an instrument at a more affordable price point, while making it more portable due to the weight and more compact enclosure size.
@@MerriamPianos Yeah, I understand, but the issue with the PHA-4 is its response. The way it bounces back is really slow compared to the PHA-50, which makes playing riffs or synth parts difficult due to the action. It feels pressing down but when it bounced back up and you press it again it just…I don’t know if you understand what I’m trying to say lol
I am here just to see the hair getting messier as the video goes
Stu's hair is apparently a hot topic these days. When you're into the music and grooving away, the hair will naturally do its thing!
Not too pleased with manner RUclips has expanded it's advertisement slots.
That is fair. Ads are a necessary evil I suppose.
I have a Roland Fantom X7 and it still sound way better than this new Juno D.
The FANTOM instruments are the flagship workstations from the Roland line, so they are a cut above virtually any other model.
The sequencer is weak. No freeform fine-resolution recording, only quantized note recording.
The while synth is meant for speedy operation. I think sequencer the feature as is works fine if you want to jam or just get your idea down.
The JUNO D series doesn't have the same sequencing functionality and detail as workstations, but it is incredibly impressive for the money. :)
Oh wow, I'm seeing in the Reference manual that the adjustable quantization from Juno-DS line was not carried over. On the older Junos, you could set quantization to zero if you wanted none during recording.
To me this is mostly performance and not quite a workstation keyboard. And that's fine. For complete DAW-less song composition and recording capabilities, you'd need to step up to Fantom-0 at least. Roland is following the Yamaha marketing strategy of product differentiation, mostly through software. Something for every budget.
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To me the piano on this sounds terrible. Plus there's absolutely none of the Supernatural sounds.So the piano on this is the most particular sound that is affected by their Supernatural piano sound Which for some reason they kept off of this. It's a shame because I really do like all the rest of the sounds that I've heard on this. But as usual Roland never gives everything you need in one product.
The JUNO D is a synthesizer opposed to a formal digital piano. At the end of the day, it all comes down to a matter of preference and subjectivity. Not every instrument will resonate with every player of course.
@@MerriamPianos I agree with you, I just think Roland could have put in at least two of those Supernatural piano sounds on it.
@@equinoxpete One of the free EXZ expansions available for Juno-D and Fantom-0 contains a "Premier Grand" piano preset that puts those Supernatural pianos to shame. But also consider that there are better alternatives for piano like FP30X, RD88, and much more. Juno-D and the Fantoms are more aimed at band players and other stage performers who want a wide variety of sounds beyond what you get in most formal digital pianos.
@@Jason75913 it would be nice just to get something that has everything that you want. Unfortunately along with great piano sounds I used to play in a band where I played Keys even though I'm a guitar player, I played keys for maybe eight songs out of the night, I like to do like the taped strings and pads have some organs etc. Thanks for getting back to me. really love your videos.
@@Jason75913 Thanks for the info.
Niether Roland Nor Yamaha has anything new to offer.Roland 4 patials of a tone are quite old and yamahas has AWM and FM. After so many years they are still producing same technology in new hardwares keyboards with new names made up of now plastic earlier metal.
I think Roland has made some substantial contributions recently. The new sensor systems in the latest LX and GP models are fantastic for instance. Furthermore, the inclusion of ZEN-Core technology at more affordable price points is also quite impressive and exciting!