Feel Free To Skip Around The Video! TD50 Kick/Snare/Hi-Hat: 0:32 Mimic Kick/Snare/Hi-Hat: 1:58 Full Kit With Music (TD50): 3:49 Full Kit With Music (Mimic): 6:12 Individual Drums/Cymbals: 8:13 Talking Specs/Features: 15:13
Over- all I would take the Roland. I can live without the touch screen. But it will come down to personal preference……….😎👍👋✌️🇨🇦 #Anotherqualityvideobyjustin
Great video. I played a TD20X for 12 years and recently decided to upgrade. Purchased a TD30 and Mimic Pro, to decide between the two. I agree with most of your assessment between the TD50 (similar to TD30 with some obvious upgrades), however there's one thing I'd point out that wasn't evident to me in the beginning of my comparison testing. When we say that the TD30/50 have more ability to make adjustments to each instrument's sound, that's true in some cases but not all. For example when you look at the kick drum, in the TD30/50 you can change the mic size and position, in the PMP you can't. However what I found was that the mike size and position are really just adjustments in EQ, they aren't really moving the mic closer or changing the mic size (since most of the Roland sounds are engineered, not sampled). Therefore with the PMP you can get the same variations for many of the TD30/50 controls by adjusting the EQ. Out of the box, the PMP sounds are flat, but with just a couple of minutes time, you can really make them come alive and sound as full and rich as the engineered TD30/50 sounds. Overall I'd say if you are looking for a wide variety of kit and percussion sounds, go with the TD30/50; if you want more natural and realistic sounding drums, go with the Mimic Pro.
I just recently finished building a electronic drum-set from scratch. With nobody to help me with knowledge on the topic, your channel has been extremely helpful! You cover a massive quantity of questions that I have been curious of, and go in depth on them as well. You sir are a hero! Thanks from Rochester NY!
The Mimic Pro's sounds blow away all of the TD-50's. No machine-gunning at all. SSD5 is legit. May not hold a candle to Superior 3, but it's VERY good. If you don't want to mess with drum software at all, the Mimic is the way to go. It's even cheaper these days! :)
Justin I've been watching you for a few years, I always liked your playing but this time you're really killing it! I feel the improvement, keep up the hard work!
@@mikestein1024 It's the concept. I do music since 20 years and Nothing is better than good quality and durable stuff. Mimic sound more natural, more cool, just better but Roland is safer
This video helped steer me towards purchasing a Mimic Pro - For anyone considering it, it's a lot of cash to drop on an unknown compared to Roland, but after 18 months of daily use I can confirm as per Justin's words -It's a beast
Great comparison Justin. In the beginning of my search for the right module you had me going back and forth between the Mimic and the TD-50. I thought I really wanted a Mimic but in the end went with the TD-50 and I couldn't be happier honestly. As you stated, editing is very in depth and it just has a punch to it that is wonderful once you dive into it. Do VEX's help, sure, if you don't want to learn anything, but after all, they are nothing more than what anyone can take the time to learn and do on their own with the TD-50. Yes, it is not the perfect acoustic sound, but you can get it damn close and when you're playing live, no one notices or cares anyhow. This was a great vid, thank you!
I know you feel a need to justify your purchase, but you are calling black white here .. TD50 sounds like piece of shiet, to an extend to be funny really ..which is very obvious in this direct comparison, and especially in the mix.. Which has always been the case with Roland modules btw. Where the Mimic is completely different league very close to a well mic-ed acoustic set, though still not one ..
Totally agree with you. I was in the same dilemma and bought the td50 as playing in cover bands that play what’s currently on the radio, its very rare I need a 100 % acoustic sounding kit. If I was desperate for an acoustic sound I’d use an acoustic kit.
pumpal LKT I trigger Steven Slate 5 with an Alesis I/O, those are the sounds of the mimic, I would get the TD 50 just because the features that the mimic lacks, use that with the td50 and have the best of both worlds
@@pumpalBo Everyone knew TD-50 out of the box needed adjustments. I am very happy with my TD-50 compositions. I wanted positional sensing and rim shots on all toms. Mimic couldn't give that. Not everything has to be 100% real sounding to make good music. I care more about dynamics and articulation than tone just like most professional musicians.
I've had the TD-50 for about 2 years. The factory kits were updated with the artist update patches. I only use 2 kits that I had programmed all parameters myself. I switch between the 2 depending upon the sound I want and never use the others. These were setup for my ears, taste and are used direct into Cubase 10.5 Pro. I recently went to a local music store and played a TD 50KV with all factory presets. They happen to have the same headphones I use on my kit (AT M50X). It sounded horrible. But why? It all comes down to how you setup your system both inside and out. I run my 50 out through the main XLR's to a XENYX desk (Behringer UFX1604) using 2 channels panned hard L and R. The channels have light compression added. 2 of the sends for those channels are routed to a Lexicon MX 400 and back into the desk to add reverb. I monitor through either the desk headphone jack or I have a rackmount 6 channel headphone amp. This is how I get the live sound for me. For recording into Cubase, the USB of the XENYX sends audio either pre or post fader. For 10 channel audio, the USB from the 50 to computer is used pre fader. I've had the TD-11 kit, TD-20 and now the TD-50 and learned that sounding good is subjective. Flexibility and cost are not.
Former Roland/SD3 user turned Mimic convert here. I have played more drums in the last 1.5 years with the mimic than I have in 10 years playing my Roland kits. I loved my Roland/Superior Drummer3 combo but it was a PIA. I would get a kit sounding great, leave it for a few weeks and then when I wanted to change something I had to figure out how I did it a few weeks ago. Constant re-learning. I cannot step away from the Mimic. You just want to play it. turn it on and play like you're in a world class studio. There is a learning curve with the Mimic, but nothing like using VST software. I think the real comparison should be the Mimic VS TD50 running SD3. This would be a legit challenger for the Mimic IMHO.
Awesome review as always Justin!! 👍 Thorough, objective and focused on all of the things we care about. Great job! BTW, I went from the TD30 to the Mimic Pro and haven't looked back. The good thing about this improved competition is that ultimately we are getting closer and closer to having indistinguishable electronic drums from acoustic. I use the Mimic Pro for all of my shows and it has been rock solid. I have also gotten some fellow musicians to become converts to eDrums (at least a little :) Thanks again for your awesome channel!!
How do you feel about the 20s memory card situation. Do you feel like the 30 would be a major upgrade to the 20? Im currently shopping for an upgrade to my old 10...haven't kept up on the technology.. i really would appreciate ANY input/opinion etc.
Nicely done. Its no secret which I would choose. But I really only care most about acoustic sounds. And in that case Im very confident in my choice of getting a mimic. Great video man.
The thing people need to keep in mind when listening to these, is that these are stock sounds from these modules, which are not really meant to be used but to give you a starting point to tweak and eq and perfect your own sounds, they don't really shine until you do that to them, otherwise they sound like cardboard or cheap older electric kits.
I use a TD50 which gets the job done every time the whole point of the TD50 is customisation it’s not for beginners it’s a tool for Pro- drummers that take the time out to get their specific sound be it using the whole electronic set or triggering / hybrid set ups , If I want an purely acoustic sounding kit then I use my acoustic kit but as a music producer electronic drums are amazing as it allows me to dial in what the session requires. Mimic pro is also a great module but don’t be fooled for a minute if you think your not going to spend a good amount of time adjusting your sound and parameters out of the box like the Roland TD50. It’s like getting a new acoustic kit and expecting it to sound perfect out of the box , you tune it the way you like it , you muffle what you want to achieve and what you like to hear from it. As a modern drummer you cannot escape using some sort of electronics so at the end of the day get what works for you.
This film is in a sence the exact perfection for a ''this VS that'' type of film. Were else on the net can you find someone that with so big and fair balance, list the uses of theese two mudules side by side. Normally, in discussions on face and in forums, you hear the two sides presented as if there was a war of ideas going on.. equal lack of understanding of either module. Justin here, manage to take just 30 minutes to tell a good bit about why BOTH these modules are great modules. I totaly love that and agree to it to the best of my understanding. I use a TD50 module from free choice based on my needs. I really think we could soon start to agree that whatever of the two modules we use for any given reason, they are both marvelous products on the top in their individual field.
The Mimic sounds to be what I was expecting to receive when I bought my first Roland set -- for realistic versatility. I've never liked the cymbal sounds of the Roland, and as you play on this latest model, I still hear what I don't enjoy. On my old Roland set, I replaced the snare, cymbals, and hi-hat with acoustics and used the Roland toms fairly exclusively. I suppose, with the TD-50, I could actually enjoy using the full set, except I'd still want to incorporate acoustic cymbals, and perhaps hi-hat. The Mimic just sounds like a collection of percussion I'd want to hear. That may be a luxury worth springing for!
Justin, Thanks for this video ..Great Job Man! For what its worth. I own the TD50. LOVE THE SNARE (usb) Here is my Chain I use. Track with midi through the TD50, using sounds from Roland as a sound source. Then in Mix mode ..I have the ability to choose SSD5 samples - Superior drummer 3 or blend ALL 3 units. WORKS GREAT and their is virtually no latency when tracking with midi.
Great comparison video Justin. You maybe know I only use drum samples from Superior Drummer and Steven Slate. I don't use the sounds of the TD 50. So when I had to adjust my new ATV ad H14 Hihat and had to use the sound of the module itself to calibrate the Hihat I was shocked. Because I'm used to the sound of high quality drum samples, the sounds of the drums of the TD 50 were sounding very badly for me. For such a expensive module Roland really have to make more work of the sound quality of their drums. So yes I do agree with you Justin, they have to work together with a drum software manufacturer like Steven Slate or Superior Drummer to get real good sounds. Have a great day my dear friend.😎👍👊✌️
I bought the mimic last year after using Roland drums for 30 years. I love the mimic but had to send it back for repairs as output 1 stopped working as well as the aux in left side having line noise problems. It’s been gone for a month and my local store can’t tell me when I might have it back. It would be great if pearl sent me another one to get me through my many summer gigs but I guess it doesn’t work that way. ☹️
Paul Mclellan perhaps writing some reviews online would help. I’d write one on every major music product website and all the Facebook forums including Pearl’s home page, then give Pearl a call. That module costs WAY to much to not be served on a gold platter.
I just bought my first drum set (td17-kvx). It doesn’t even get here until tomorrow and I’m already pining for the mimic. This RUclips channel is going to cost me a fortune, isn’t it?
There's a td17 Facebook group that I posted about 14 custom kits I made if you want to download them to try. I've spent the last 8 or 9 months trying to dial in the td17 to sound good.
Hey! If you had a TD50 with ride and snare, would you sell those and get an ATV ride, snare? Right now I'm layering SD3 on top of the TD50 samples. That's given me a pretty realistic feel and sound. I like cross sticking and the feel compared to the PD128 snare pad on the digital snare, that's pretty much my hardest sell. Does the mimic feel better than TD50 with a PD128 snare pad?
Thanks for this. Waited a long time for your opinion, as you appeared to have become the guru of electric drums. Cheers really appreciate this, I think I now know which way I'll go to upgrade my TD20 expanded.
@@alext9151 for some PS it might be a deal breaker and TD-9 doesn't feature it indeed. You can mimic it by DSP trigger btw (+a standard Roland PD pad and a TD-9 for instance). I never felt the need of using it but I'd give it a go, in case ;-)
On Strike pro, I thought that way too once, but an alesis does not play, or, track like a roland, it's what those big bucks are for, seemingly zero bang for buck for most, to others, it's the only option. The alesis sounds are really nice though. Really nice and a ton of them. So tempting.
Each have their merits. I love the editing of the cymbals on the TD-50 and the over-all acoustic drum sounds on the Mimic. .. I may have to own both now.
@@pumpalBo just saw this, I play my $11,000 DW custom kit everyday😂🤣 been playing it for about 16 years. what the hell are you goin on about? Still hate yourself or what’s up big guy?
A great comparison - as usual. Drumming technique, you often use what sounds like a triplet kick, yet don’t seem to use a double pedal(the he stays closed). How do you do that?
Hello! Thanks for your review! In my opinion (only a personal opinion, I do not impose it on anyone), the TD-50 has a strongly compressed sound with an aggressive attack. Maybe it will sound good on a powerful sound device, but what I hear, this fat point at the beginning of each beat - I don't like it. The Mimic Pro is much more natural. But, the architecture is understandable - it is based on Windows, Vst (ssd) with minimal delay. Let them not scold me too much, but after td30 I was disappointed in Roland's new line of models. I myself now play on TD30 and bought additional (middle line) TD9. In my opinion, a very successful and underestimated model. I hear the sounds of the sources used in TD9 in both TD17 and TD27 with deeper editing, fat slaps (absolutely unnecessary), but the sources are practically the same. From modules with an VST architecture, I look towards the ATV (inexpensive module), and from the expensive ones, I would take Mimic Pro or Geva for myself. Thank you, best regards, Maxim.
Justin, First, let me express my gratitude for the truly expert explanations. Secondly, I am interested in your opinion regarding the comparison of pearl mimic pro and other e drums modules, roland td 50 and alesis strike pro. Specifically, pearl mimic pro has steven slate drumers software (ssd5) installed, and therefore the question of a real comparison arises. I realize that using the software internally in the module makes a difference. but realistically if we were to use the same software with other modules then comparing the modules themselves would make more sense. is my thinking correct? if at least in part due to the presence of latency and other hardware and software technical details, this would reflect your expert opinion on the above three modules. that is, in your opinion and why was it in favor, in terms of sound and everything else? a simplified comparison view would be between perl mimic pro and td 50 (alesis strike pro) with ssd5. I am very opinionated in your opinion! and not to mention the third and most important of your drumming is phenomenal !!!
Hey @65Drums is it me, or does the TD50 have a more nuanced expression feel. Im hearing better sounds from the Mimic in the video, but more detail in the performance from the TD50 (but maybe its the song???). Which one feels more like you are there playing a real kit. With VSTs sometimes I find even the low 5-6ms latency creates some weirdness, in the way it feels, but then sounds great in tthe recorded sound.
Hi Justin.I’m a big fan of 65 drums keep it going I have a question what’s the best module to get with regards to getting the best sounding drums for recording either the TD50X or the Mimic Pro I have a Roland TD 50 at the moment and I record with acoustic cymbals.Clive
Hey Justin, I have a Roland TD17KVX and as much as I love the kit the one thing that is not great out of the box is the cross stick feature on the snare. Is there a setting or an adjustment somewhere on the module to take care of that?
I got a TD 15. and I giggin weekly but I wat to improve my sound quality. But my question is. .. How difficult to me will be find some particular song sounds I got in my Roland TD 15 if finally buy th Mimic ? Do you recomend me Td 50 ? or Mimic ???
I have the TD 11 but I use Steven Slate drums which is what the Mimic uses, I like the cymbal sounds of the TD 11 better, but overall it sounds great with the software. The only reason to get a Mimic is to eliminate the computer, but you don't need it in the studio and it has been reliable enough that I would not be worried using it live.
And here I am with my little TD-07 module, saving for a TD-27... 😅 I like both, but if I had to choose one, I'd go with the TD-50X (because that's the current version. BTW, how do you think this version stacks up vs. the Mimic Pro?).
Great review of the two modules, very thorough and educational I've been trying to decide which one would best fit my situation, I have a Pearl sessions Studio acoustic set with extra toms, sort of set up like the Late Neil Pearts set, my favorite drummer of all time, I have a set of his cymbals so I would be using the module for more of a hybrid Electronic drum with acoustic cymbal kit to be able to control the volume better at my condo, highs don't go through walls as easily as lows. The rest of the inputs would be used for additional triggers (cowbells etc. ) Could you give me advice on which module would better fit my needs, I have 7 toms , a kick and a snare.I would need to tune the toms of course to try and get that Neil Peart tone Thanks so much in advance.
Hi Justin, thanx for your work! I think the better sounding module is the mimic right out of the box, but the td-50 offers more flexibility for my kind of job. As a Top40 Drummer I really need those electronic sounds that I really miss on the Mimic Pro. If they would extend the library with a bunch of typical electronic sound for those clubbing-drum‘n bassing-dancehouse stuff with claps an tings an pings boombastic effects, they could rule the market. But in my special case I will have to decide buying a TD-50. On the other side I can’t understand Roland, that they aren’t able to build in bigger Memory to use more realistic samples like Pearl. Diskspace is not a Problem nowadays. I wish Roland would do partnership with Toontrack, that would be heaven on earth 😍😍😍😍 Cheers from Cologne in Germany Please keep up your work!!!!
@@josephgizzi373 I think I am going to keep mine after playing it. The Sweetwater rep said he played them all and the dynamics in the Roland pads/cymbals are worth the trade off for the better kit sounds in the mimic. Let me know if you end up changing directions / what your thoughts are.
In my experience with the Mimic, I really wouldn't recommend them at this time. However they are getting better throughout time regarding sound issues. For me though, with the price tag, it's been a frustrated pain in the ass (same with a lot of the e-drum world experience). The stock sounds (to me) aren't really too much to speak of. In fact if you went that route, I would suggest purchasing V-Expressions expansions. I know sounds are subjective to everyone, but V-Exp. are much cleaning straight forward & deeper sounds. However to me, Superior Drummer's sounds out rank all. Currently I have been experiencing triggering issues when using Pearl Mimic & SD3. When I go back to using my Roland TD-17 module & SD3, it works PERFECT. No issues whatsoever, wish I could have found a "new" TD-30 module instead of the Mimic.
The pearl mimic pro has both a multi plug input and 15 other trigger inputs. Is the multi plug input also for connecting pads ?? Or is it for something else ? Thanks
Which module has the best cymbal sounds? I have a TD 20 expanded. Love the cymbals but can’t get a smooth swell. Can hear each strike, rather than blended.
Instead of buying the Pearl Mimic, wouldn’t it be better to buy the Roland for its sound and then buy Steven Slate drumming software so you have both sounds it you want?
My thoughts exactly.. the editing of Roland with the samples of whatever you want (SD3, slate).. with the sd card you could sample them (though not multisample maybe). I think most commenters are coming from an acoustic easy-to-sound-real background, rather than thinking "what could I do with this and sound unique?".. TD50 is tempting me more because of the versatility and making good use of the roland hardware.
{LOL} That's what I wish I had done in the first place (Purchase Roland module, to laptop & use Superior Drummer 3 software for sounds). Because the Mimic has been a pain in my ass from day one. Don't get me wrong nice module, however it has sound issues. In fact there have been recent Updates to help. As it stands now, I cannot get my Pearl Mimic to trigger correctly with SD3. The cross-talk on pads is happening quite a bit. Although I will say this, their (Pearl) support is outstanding compared to Roland's support. I can call and speak to someone 90% of the time. With Roland, I tried to call multiple times within a week, to find out - where to purchase a Trigger cone from? Not once was I able to reach a human being.
I see BIG drop on td-50 sound amount with modeling, MIMIC is "open architecture" will allow new sound expansion pack even more. Personally I like more MIMIC, less need to edit sound like TD-50 harder to operate and sound ok. TD-50 is more for people like electronic style. Price mimic is 2199$, TD-50 2500$
Not only that but I think its also worth mentioning that the only reason the TD50 has so many more advanced editing options is because they don't use multi layer samples but rather use samples that simply have the essential parts of a drums tone and fills the rest in with modeling. You can even hear this when cycling through instruments while playing. Especially in the kicks. The attack and overall tone of the kick will be the same and the only thing that changes in some cases is the sub bass and ambience of that kick. Which can easily be editing in the mimic to wait for it...…"Mimic" the sound of another instrument. Roland has explained how they make sounds in past manuals for drum modules. And while the quality may have improved the overall way they do things hasn't really changed all that much. I honestly think if they were to use multi layer pure drum samples first they would find it difficult to apply many of those deep editing features they are capable of. The td50 is like the Jurassic park of the edrum world. Chopping up tones and filling it in with synthetic DNA. Sure you get a new dinosaur but it will never be the real thing.
I don't know if it's just my setup, but when I got the Mimic Pro, all the default kits needed quite a bit of tweaking in order to sound decent. Everything was very muddy and boomy. Did you have that issue at all?
Awesome video once again👍🏼 considering your experience, if $5000 - $6000 were your budget, would you go for the Roland Td 50 or any acoustic to electronic conversion set in that price range?
In the playing example for the mimic hi-hats i cant help but feel like they sound strikingly close to the alesis nitro mesh hi-hats. i might just be getting confused and maybe thinking of something else. can anyone help me out? EDIT: the rides now sound very close to superior drummer three rides. whats going on?
Q: Am I seeing this correctly? Near the end of the video, is that basket stand-mounted tom on the left (right hand side if playing the drums) attached to a rubber crash through it's own 'former' kick drum mount? I love the Mimic Pro sounds, but found as you were scrolling through them that the differences between individual sounds (snares, for instance) were mostly just pitch variations of the first. The sounds are realistic. I also like how the TD-50 has aux percussion and electronic sounds. Must be that digital ride, but MAN! That Roland ride performance is SOOOOO REALISTIC!! I was very impressed with that. The Roland toms sounded not so great and VERY MACHINE-GUNNY considering the cost of this module. Love the videos! I've been binge-watching for a few days!
Hey Justin I have a question. I have a roland td-3 module but I was wondering if there is a good software where I can record say a dark meinl byzance ride or any other high end cymbal in person and place that sound, with a few editing on it, to the software and use that sound on my kit?
This is impressive man🔥 I can't imagine how much work you have put in to this video. I watched it from start to end, even though I can't afford an entire drum set for the price for one of these modules. Keep it up man 🔥🔥🔥
I agree it comes down personal opinion on drum modules because I’ll tell you I’ve owned a td 30 then. Atv ad5 and now a td17 which I love I guess I’ve found I prefer Roland sounds but once you bring your own samples that just takes it to another level in my opinion
Hey edrum fans I have a question. Can I combine the best of two worlds from the TD-50 and SD3? I wanna play SD3 via midi from my MacBook. Do I have the full features of the roland multizone snare and ride ? Thank you
I'm scared of the lag the Mimic Pro has. Any experiences or tips? I'm gonna get one of these. I'm leaning towards the Mimic Pro very heavily, because it just sounds so much better and I couldn't care less if Roland lets me edit their shady sounds a whole bunch more.
Thank you Justin, great episode and review!! 10/10😀👌✨🌟🎵 hum... the Mimic definitely did sound thin on the cymbals, yet rich as a whole. But I didn't really know about those features on the TD50, a step above the 30... I want them both! "There can only be one" LOL✌
Can you give me an example where you would use two hi hats in tandem and still provide a musical experience? Not being a smartass, but legitimate question.
@@zachlamont5417 Hello, why would i use two separate sets of HiHats? I presume you're targeting Edrums. Tonal advantages are programed, so there's no benefit other than that. Yet, the purpose is for splitting rudiments throughout the set. Second, when "splitting" your chosen rudiments you can favor your dominate hand while opening your arm position freeing up the dominate hand to travel more &/or pull off more complex phrasings with 1 of your hand. True can be said for doubling up on the rides, snare.... it's your choice. It's about your rudiments. Did I answer your question? Yet, just my opinion on the matter.
the td 50 sounds so boring and dry out of the box, i own one myself, and it takes a LOT of tweaking to assemble a kit where every part of it sounds tolerable. I could see most people just wanting a simple plug n play drum module, and the TD-50 is NOT that, however, the td-50 is much more customizable and configurable, and has a much more tactile way of adjusting parameters than a clunky touch screen. The TD-50 is also very good for making really eccentric and wacky sounds
Hi Justin, I have a question. I have the mimic pro and the screen goes into screen saver after a while ( time can be adjusted) but: shoud you turn it off after playing or can you leave it in "standby" modus. And for how long? I had the roland TD8 before and constantly left it on. I can't seem to find any info regarding this subject.Thanks
Wearing headphones and the kick is super loud at certain parts of video. Sounds good but to me it seemed out of place being that loud. Great vid. Mimic I think is the winner here. I love ALL Roland/BOSS products. And I kinda hate Pearl, with the exception that they do make some great snares, and I have never really been impressed with Pearl drum kits. However teaming up with Slate drums, they ended up with a great module. I admit the hi hat on the Roland module were the weak point to me, I do not know if the settings are stick or if you went nuts with adjusting the setting. I played a lower end Roland kit years back and after adjusting the settings to my liking, it sounded great. Roland: up the collection of drumset and cymbal selection. Pearl Mimic Pro: Have more options for settings.
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Feel Free To Skip Around The Video!
TD50 Kick/Snare/Hi-Hat: 0:32
Mimic Kick/Snare/Hi-Hat: 1:58
Full Kit With Music (TD50): 3:49
Full Kit With Music (Mimic): 6:12
Individual Drums/Cymbals: 8:13
Talking Specs/Features:
15:13
The Mimic sounds the best. Roland ‘s “modeled” sounds just sound bad unless VEXpressions tweaked settings replace the Roland factory settings.
Over- all I would take the Roland.
I can live without the touch screen.
But it will come down to personal preference……….😎👍👋✌️🇨🇦
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Great video. I played a TD20X for 12 years and recently decided to upgrade. Purchased a TD30 and Mimic Pro, to decide between the two. I agree with most of your assessment between the TD50 (similar to TD30 with some obvious upgrades), however there's one thing I'd point out that wasn't evident to me in the beginning of my comparison testing. When we say that the TD30/50 have more ability to make adjustments to each instrument's sound, that's true in some cases but not all. For example when you look at the kick drum, in the TD30/50 you can change the mic size and position, in the PMP you can't. However what I found was that the mike size and position are really just adjustments in EQ, they aren't really moving the mic closer or changing the mic size (since most of the Roland sounds are engineered, not sampled). Therefore with the PMP you can get the same variations for many of the TD30/50 controls by adjusting the EQ. Out of the box, the PMP sounds are flat, but with just a couple of minutes time, you can really make them come alive and sound as full and rich as the engineered TD30/50 sounds. Overall I'd say if you are looking for a wide variety of kit and percussion sounds, go with the TD30/50; if you want more natural and realistic sounding drums, go with the Mimic Pro.
I just recently finished building a electronic drum-set from scratch. With nobody to help me with knowledge on the topic, your channel has been extremely helpful! You cover a massive quantity of questions that I have been curious of, and go in depth on them as well. You sir are a hero! Thanks from Rochester NY!
Thank so much Franco! :) I'm glad the channel has been useful
The Mimic Pro's sounds blow away all of the TD-50's. No machine-gunning at all. SSD5 is legit. May not hold a candle to Superior 3, but it's VERY good. If you don't want to mess with drum software at all, the Mimic is the way to go. It's even cheaper these days! :)
Justin I've been watching you for a few years, I always liked your playing but this time you're really killing it! I feel the improvement, keep up the hard work!
That's a comment you will never see on a guitar video. Only drums videos.
To me there is just no comparison.. The Mimic wins hands down
And TD 50 win hands down when you need a 250 gigs world tour module. Mimic is not safe at all.
@@BrunoMorisetti It sounds like shit. They went backwards from the 30
@@randalscandal1588 I'm very happy with mine.
@@BrunoMorisetti none of us will ever be doing that lol 😂
@@mikestein1024 It's the concept. I do music since 20 years and Nothing is better than good quality and durable stuff. Mimic sound more natural, more cool, just better but Roland is safer
Man, I wish there was some kind of Frankenstein module with the Mimic’s drums and the Roland cymbals. That thing would be an absolute beast!
Roland has the worst cymbals sound
This video helped steer me towards purchasing a Mimic Pro - For anyone considering it, it's a lot of cash to drop on an unknown compared to Roland, but after 18 months of daily use I can confirm as per Justin's words -It's a beast
Great comparison Justin. In the beginning of my search for the right module you had me going back and forth between the Mimic and the TD-50. I thought I really wanted a Mimic but in the end went with the TD-50 and I couldn't be happier honestly. As you stated, editing is very in depth and it just has a punch to it that is wonderful once you dive into it. Do VEX's help, sure, if you don't want to learn anything, but after all, they are nothing more than what anyone can take the time to learn and do on their own with the TD-50. Yes, it is not the perfect acoustic sound, but you can get it damn close and when you're playing live, no one notices or cares anyhow. This was a great vid, thank you!
I know you feel a need to justify your purchase, but you are calling black white here .. TD50 sounds like piece of shiet, to an extend to be funny really ..which is very obvious in this direct comparison, and especially in the mix.. Which has always been the case with Roland modules btw. Where the Mimic is completely different league very close to a well mic-ed acoustic set, though still not one ..
Totally agree with you. I was in the same dilemma and bought the td50 as playing in cover bands that play what’s currently on the radio, its very rare I need a 100 % acoustic sounding kit. If I was desperate for an acoustic sound I’d use an acoustic kit.
pumpal LKT I trigger Steven Slate 5 with an Alesis I/O, those are the sounds of the mimic, I would get the TD 50 just because the features that the mimic lacks, use that with the td50 and have the best of both worlds
@@pumpalBo dick
@@pumpalBo Everyone knew TD-50 out of the box needed adjustments. I am very happy with my TD-50 compositions. I wanted positional sensing and rim shots on all toms. Mimic couldn't give that. Not everything has to be 100% real sounding to make good music. I care more about dynamics and articulation than tone just like most professional musicians.
I've had the TD-50 for about 2 years. The factory kits were updated with the artist update patches. I only use 2 kits that I had programmed all parameters myself. I switch between the 2 depending upon the sound I want and never use the others. These were setup for my ears, taste and are used direct into Cubase 10.5 Pro. I recently went to a local music store and played a TD 50KV with all factory presets. They happen to have the same headphones I use on my kit (AT M50X). It sounded horrible. But why? It all comes down to how you setup your system both inside and out. I run my 50 out through the main XLR's to a XENYX desk (Behringer UFX1604) using 2 channels panned hard L and R. The channels have light compression added. 2 of the sends for those channels are routed to a Lexicon MX 400 and back into the desk to add reverb. I monitor through either the desk headphone jack or I have a rackmount 6 channel headphone amp. This is how I get the live sound for me. For recording into Cubase, the USB of the XENYX sends audio either pre or post fader. For 10 channel audio, the USB from the 50 to computer is used pre fader.
I've had the TD-11 kit, TD-20 and now the TD-50 and learned that sounding good is subjective. Flexibility and cost are not.
That snare at 2:44 sounds amazing!
Looks like Roland has aready lost it's leadership position, even now they still have that plastic feel... Mimic is absolutely gorgeous!
Former Roland/SD3 user turned Mimic convert here. I have played more drums in the last 1.5 years with the mimic than I have in 10 years playing my Roland kits. I loved my Roland/Superior Drummer3 combo but it was a PIA. I would get a kit sounding great, leave it for a few weeks and then when I wanted to change something I had to figure out how I did it a few weeks ago. Constant re-learning.
I cannot step away from the Mimic. You just want to play it. turn it on and play like you're in a world class studio. There is a learning curve with the Mimic, but nothing like using VST software. I think the real comparison should be the Mimic VS TD50 running SD3. This would be a legit challenger for the Mimic IMHO.
Awesome review as always Justin!! 👍 Thorough, objective and focused on all of the things we care about. Great job! BTW, I went from the TD30 to the Mimic Pro and haven't looked back. The good thing about this improved competition is that ultimately we are getting closer and closer to having indistinguishable electronic drums from acoustic. I use the Mimic Pro for all of my shows and it has been rock solid. I have also gotten some fellow musicians to become converts to eDrums (at least a little :) Thanks again for your awesome channel!!
I like the Mimic myself, still have my TD20X module as well.
How do you feel about the 20s memory card situation. Do you feel like the 30 would be a major upgrade to the 20? Im currently shopping for an upgrade to my old 10...haven't kept up on the technology.. i really would appreciate ANY input/opinion etc.
Nicely done. Its no secret which I would choose. But I really only care most about acoustic sounds. And in that case Im very confident in my choice of getting a mimic. Great video man.
Thanks Tim! :)
The thing people need to keep in mind when listening to these, is that these are stock sounds from these modules, which are not really meant to be used but to give you a starting point to tweak and eq and perfect your own sounds, they don't really shine until you do that to them, otherwise they sound like cardboard or cheap older electric kits.
At that price point they could have provided more care to the default presets to make them sound more legit.
I use a TD50 which gets the job done every time the whole point of the TD50 is customisation it’s not for beginners it’s a tool for Pro- drummers that take the time out to get their specific sound be it using the whole electronic set or triggering / hybrid set ups , If I want an purely acoustic sounding kit then I use my acoustic kit but as a music producer electronic drums are amazing as it allows me to dial in what the session requires. Mimic pro is also a great module but don’t be fooled for a minute if you think your not going to spend a good amount of time adjusting your sound and parameters out of the box like the Roland TD50. It’s like getting a new acoustic kit and expecting it to sound perfect out of the box , you tune it the way you like it , you muffle what you want to achieve and what you like to hear from it. As a modern drummer you cannot escape using some sort of electronics so at the end of the day get what works for you.
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Must comment. I live in
Melbourne, Australia and down here we love our Pacific sounds.
Specifically our symbol
Sounds.🤭🤘
@@timmawson642 so all you got from this was a typo 😂😂😂
@@aardvarkmindshank typo, thank you for pointing that out 👍
definately the mimic for me..much more realistic sounding! a great comparison, Justin and brilliant playing examples!
This film is in a sence the exact perfection for a ''this VS that'' type of film. Were else on the net can you find someone that with so big and fair balance, list the uses of theese two mudules side by side. Normally, in discussions on face and in forums, you hear the two sides presented as if there was a war of ideas going on.. equal lack of understanding of either module. Justin here, manage to take just 30 minutes to tell a good bit about why BOTH these modules are great modules. I totaly love that and agree to it to the best of my understanding. I use a TD50 module from free choice based on my needs. I really think we could soon start to agree that whatever of the two modules we use for any given reason, they are both marvelous products on the top in their individual field.
Thank you so much!!
Mimic Pro Rocks! - Had mine for about 1 year now. Worth every penny!
Amazing!! This video and the final review of the Alesis Strike Pad are my most anticipated videos this year! 😀 Great job, Justin! As always
Great job on this video Justin. Very thorough and detailed and quality production.
The Mimic sounds to be what I was expecting to receive when I bought my first Roland set -- for realistic versatility. I've never liked the cymbal sounds of the Roland, and as you play on this latest model, I still hear what I don't enjoy. On my old Roland set, I replaced the snare, cymbals, and hi-hat with acoustics and used the Roland toms fairly exclusively. I suppose, with the TD-50, I could actually enjoy using the full set, except I'd still want to incorporate acoustic cymbals, and perhaps hi-hat.
The Mimic just sounds like a collection of percussion I'd want to hear. That may be a luxury worth springing for!
Great comparison! What kind of ride cymbal and hihats were you testing with the mimic?
Thanks for a great channel.
Justin,
Thanks for this video ..Great Job Man!
For what its worth. I own the TD50. LOVE THE SNARE (usb) Here is my Chain I use. Track with midi through the TD50, using sounds from Roland as a sound source. Then in Mix mode ..I have the ability to choose SSD5 samples - Superior drummer 3 or blend ALL 3 units. WORKS GREAT and their is virtually no latency when tracking with midi.
Great comparison video Justin. You maybe know I only use drum samples from Superior Drummer and Steven Slate. I don't use the sounds of the TD 50. So when I had to adjust my new ATV ad H14 Hihat and had to use the sound of the module itself to calibrate the Hihat I was shocked. Because I'm used to the sound of high quality drum samples, the sounds of the drums of the TD 50 were sounding very badly for me. For such a expensive module Roland really have to make more work of the sound quality of their drums. So yes I do agree with you Justin, they have to work together with a drum software manufacturer like Steven Slate or Superior Drummer to get real good sounds. Have a great day my dear friend.😎👍👊✌️
I bought the mimic last year after using Roland drums for 30 years. I love the mimic but had to send it back for repairs as output 1 stopped working as well as the aux in left side having line noise problems. It’s been gone for a month and my local store can’t tell me when I might have it back. It would be great if pearl sent me another one to get me through my many summer gigs but I guess it doesn’t work that way. ☹️
Paul Mclellan perhaps writing some reviews online would help. I’d write one on every major music product website and all the Facebook forums including Pearl’s home page, then give Pearl a call. That module costs WAY to much to not be served on a gold platter.
I would go with the mimic pro sound wise but for tech I would go with the td 50 because it has more options and it’s more sensitive in touch
I just bought my first drum set (td17-kvx). It doesn’t even get here until tomorrow and I’m already pining for the mimic. This RUclips channel is going to cost me a fortune, isn’t it?
You'll be spending plenty of time dialing in the td17. The first kit sounds the best lol
There's a td17 Facebook group that I posted about 14 custom kits I made if you want to download them to try. I've spent the last 8 or 9 months trying to dial in the td17 to sound good.
Make sure you buy cable splitters if you want to add more cymbals or Toms.
@@stephenpetrikowski may I know the group name? thanks
@@rickmanondrumsandbass9292 td17 users group
my ears say Pearl wins
Hey! If you had a TD50 with ride and snare, would you sell those and get an ATV ride, snare? Right now I'm layering SD3 on top of the TD50 samples. That's given me a pretty realistic feel and sound. I like cross sticking and the feel compared to the PD128 snare pad on the digital snare, that's pretty much my hardest sell. Does the mimic feel better than TD50 with a PD128 snare pad?
Thanks for this. Waited a long time for your opinion, as you appeared to have become the guru of electric drums.
Cheers really appreciate this, I think I now know which way I'll go to upgrade my TD20 expanded.
I love binging your videos for the info but man your playing is just spot on and a joy to listen to.
The mimic sounds more real. It’s either this one or the strike pro module
Or get the TD50, connect a laptop with Steven Slate 5 and you have the same sounds the mimic has, but you also have the sounds the TD50 has.
@@lucyferina yes, but why if you can do the same by a TD-9 at a fraction of the price :|
@@traskabraska TD-9 has no positional sensing feature, it wont feel so natural.
@@alext9151 for some PS it might be a deal breaker and TD-9 doesn't feature it indeed. You can mimic it by DSP trigger btw (+a standard Roland PD pad and a TD-9 for instance). I never felt the need of using it but I'd give it a go, in case ;-)
On Strike pro, I thought that way too once, but an alesis does not play, or, track like a roland, it's what those big bucks are for, seemingly zero bang for buck for most, to others, it's the only option. The alesis sounds are really nice though. Really nice and a ton of them. So tempting.
Each have their merits. I love the editing of the cymbals on the TD-50 and the over-all acoustic drum sounds on the Mimic. .. I may have to own both now.
Hey Justin, great review- do you have a PMP with new firmware vs TD-50X shootout in the pipe? Would be an interesting one...
If the quality is there then it all boils down to sound. I find the td50 snare sounds so processed it starts to irritate me. Mimic wins!
we have it at church and it is just too processed to sound good live
I love my td50! Absolutely worth the money, get a stereo 31 band EQ and you can make it sound like a number of acoustic sets!
Haha .. Ok. When was the last time you actually played an acoustic (if at all)?
@@pumpalBo dick
Don't say that or you'll trigger the Roland deranged syndrome on some... xD
@@pumpalBo just saw this, I play my $11,000 DW custom kit everyday😂🤣 been playing it for about 16 years. what the hell are you goin on about? Still hate yourself or what’s up big guy?
Excellent video.one question ..can you sample extra drum sounds on the Roland.?
A great comparison - as usual. Drumming technique, you often use what sounds like a triplet kick, yet don’t seem to use a double pedal(the he stays closed). How do you do that?
I do a very fast double and then it the snare to get that sound :) I've just practiced it for hours until I get it
Brian is absolutely spot on. Pacific sounds are an essential part of a drummers kit down
here in Australia.
Brian, Rock on mate.👍
Hello! Thanks for your review! In my opinion (only a personal opinion, I do not impose it on anyone), the TD-50 has a strongly compressed sound with an aggressive attack. Maybe it will sound good on a powerful sound device, but what I hear, this fat point at the beginning of each beat - I don't like it. The Mimic Pro is much more natural. But, the architecture is understandable - it is based on Windows, Vst (ssd) with minimal delay. Let them not scold me too much, but after td30 I was disappointed in Roland's new line of models. I myself now play on TD30 and bought additional (middle line) TD9. In my opinion, a very successful and underestimated model. I hear the sounds of the sources used in TD9 in both TD17 and TD27 with deeper editing, fat slaps (absolutely unnecessary), but the sources are practically the same. From modules with an VST architecture, I look towards the ATV (inexpensive module), and from the expensive ones, I would take Mimic Pro or Geva for myself. Thank you, best regards, Maxim.
Hello justin, I wan a buy the alesis crimson 2, do you know if I buy a roland hihat and or crashes and ride, can I use them on my alesis kit then?
Justin,
First, let me express my gratitude for the truly expert explanations.
Secondly, I am interested in your opinion regarding the comparison of pearl mimic pro and other e drums modules, roland td 50 and alesis strike pro. Specifically, pearl mimic pro has steven slate drumers software (ssd5) installed, and therefore the question of a real comparison arises. I realize that using the software internally in the module makes a difference. but realistically if we were to use the same software with other modules then comparing the modules themselves would make more sense. is my thinking correct? if at least in part due to the presence of latency and other hardware and software technical details, this would reflect your expert opinion on the above three modules. that is, in your opinion and why was it in favor, in terms of sound and everything else? a simplified comparison view would be between perl mimic pro and td 50 (alesis strike pro) with ssd5.
I am very opinionated in your opinion!
and not to mention the third and most important of your drumming is phenomenal !!!
Hey @65Drums is it me, or does the TD50 have a more nuanced expression feel. Im hearing better sounds from the Mimic in the video, but more detail in the performance from the TD50 (but maybe its the song???). Which one feels more like you are there playing a real kit. With VSTs sometimes I find even the low 5-6ms latency creates some weirdness, in the way it feels, but then sounds great in tthe recorded sound.
What was that one snare sound at 0:58? Was louder
Your videos are really interesting 🙏
Thanks!
So, would a straight module switch to a Mimic Pro (from TD50X) work with the VAD706 kit?
Hi Justin.I’m a big fan of 65 drums keep it going I have a question what’s the best module to get with regards to getting the best sounding drums for recording either the TD50X or the Mimic Pro I have a Roland TD 50 at the moment and I record with acoustic cymbals.Clive
Hey Justin, I have a Roland TD17KVX and as much as I love the kit the one thing that is not great out of the box is the cross stick feature on the snare. Is there a setting or an adjustment somewhere on the module to take care of that?
I got a TD 15. and I giggin weekly but I wat to improve my sound quality. But my question is. .. How difficult to me will be find some particular song sounds I got in my Roland TD 15 if finally buy th Mimic ? Do you recomend me Td 50 ? or Mimic ???
Please answer a question, how do you record sound and audio and link them up for videos with sound, I’m totally lost on how to do this 😞
Hey Justin you should make a tutorial for the Alesis Strike Multipad!
Thanks I'll keep the video idea in mind :)
I own Roland td25 custom and I thought my decision would be biased but I’m in love with the pearl mimic. Close my eyes and hear realistic drums.
I have the TD 11 but I use Steven Slate drums which is what the Mimic uses, I like the cymbal sounds of the TD 11 better, but overall it sounds great with the software. The only reason to get a Mimic is to eliminate the computer, but you don't need it in the studio and it has been reliable enough that I would not be worried using it live.
And here I am with my little TD-07 module, saving for a TD-27... 😅
I like both, but if I had to choose one, I'd go with the TD-50X (because that's the current version. BTW, how do you think this version stacks up vs. the Mimic Pro?).
I still have my TD 7 LONG term reliability. My new YAMAHA DTX PRO arrived defective...such a pain dealing with tech support
If you like the Pearl Mimic Pro can you not just connect your current module up to a PC running SSD? Are they the same kits?
Great review of the two modules, very thorough and educational I've been trying to decide which one would best fit my situation, I have a Pearl sessions Studio acoustic set with extra toms, sort of set up like the Late Neil Pearts set, my favorite drummer of all time, I have a set of his cymbals so I would be using the module for more of a hybrid Electronic drum with acoustic cymbal kit to be able to control the volume better at my condo, highs don't go through walls as easily as lows. The rest of the inputs would be used for additional triggers (cowbells etc. ) Could you give me advice on which module would better fit my needs, I have 7 toms , a kick and a snare.I would need to tune the toms of course to try and get that Neil Peart tone Thanks so much in advance.
Hi Justin, thanx for your work! I think the better sounding module is the mimic right out of the box, but the td-50 offers more flexibility for my kind of job. As a Top40 Drummer I really need those electronic sounds that I really miss on the Mimic Pro. If they would extend the library with a bunch of typical electronic sound for those clubbing-drum‘n bassing-dancehouse stuff with claps an tings an pings boombastic effects, they could rule the market. But in my special case I will have to decide buying a TD-50.
On the other side I can’t understand Roland, that they aren’t able to build in bigger Memory to use more realistic samples like Pearl. Diskspace is not a Problem nowadays. I wish Roland would do partnership with Toontrack, that would be heaven on earth 😍😍😍😍
Cheers from Cologne in Germany
Please keep up your work!!!!
Just bought the TD50K set - thinking about switching the module to the mimic...thoughts?
I just bought one as well and am considering the same thing
@@josephgizzi373 I think I am going to keep mine after playing it. The Sweetwater rep said he played them all and the dynamics in the Roland pads/cymbals are worth the trade off for the better kit sounds in the mimic. Let me know if you end up changing directions / what your thoughts are.
In my experience with the Mimic, I really wouldn't recommend them at this time. However they are getting better throughout time regarding sound issues. For me though, with the price tag, it's been a frustrated pain in the ass (same with a lot of the e-drum world experience). The stock sounds (to me) aren't really too much to speak of. In fact if you went that route, I would suggest purchasing V-Expressions expansions. I know sounds are subjective to everyone, but V-Exp. are much cleaning straight forward & deeper sounds.
However to me, Superior Drummer's sounds out rank all. Currently I have been experiencing triggering issues when using Pearl Mimic & SD3. When I go back to using my Roland TD-17 module & SD3, it works PERFECT. No issues whatsoever, wish I could have found a "new" TD-30 module instead of the Mimic.
Mimic pro toms are awesome !!!, can't find correct toms sounds on my TD-27 ....
The pearl mimic pro has both a multi plug input and 15 other trigger inputs. Is the multi plug input also for connecting pads ?? Or is it for something else ?
Thanks
I'm quite happy with my ad5 but if i had to choose between the td-50 and the mimic i would have to go with the mimic.
How's the Ad5? I've heard that it machine guns sometimes, is that true?
@@galgogergo maybe if you don't set it up right you could get machine gunning but i've had no machine gunning
@@demonocusmetalocus3558 thanks, that sounds good
Been waiting for this👍
I’ve always heard the pearl mimic pro better, but I would go with Roland since we all know there pads and cymbals are reliable.
Which module has the best cymbal sounds? I have a TD 20 expanded. Love the cymbals but can’t get a smooth swell. Can hear each strike, rather than blended.
Thx for a good review of both.
Thanks for the great reviee,, some sexy camera slide work there. 😃
Thanks for noticing! :) I put some serious work in to get those slide shots
The Mimic sounds more authentic, still obviously electronic but more believable! Ha!
Instead of buying the Pearl Mimic, wouldn’t it be better to buy the Roland for its sound and then buy Steven Slate drumming software so you have both sounds it you want?
My thoughts exactly.. the editing of Roland with the samples of whatever you want (SD3, slate).. with the sd card you could sample them (though not multisample maybe). I think most commenters are coming from an acoustic easy-to-sound-real background, rather than thinking "what could I do with this and sound unique?".. TD50 is tempting me more because of the versatility and making good use of the roland hardware.
{LOL} That's what I wish I had done in the first place (Purchase Roland module, to laptop & use Superior Drummer 3 software for sounds). Because the Mimic has been a pain in my ass from day one. Don't get me wrong nice module, however it has sound issues. In fact there have been recent Updates to help. As it stands now, I cannot get my Pearl Mimic to trigger correctly with SD3. The cross-talk on pads is happening quite a bit. Although I will say this, their (Pearl) support is outstanding compared to Roland's support. I can call and speak to someone 90% of the time. With Roland, I tried to call multiple times within a week, to find out - where to purchase a Trigger cone from? Not once was I able to reach a human being.
I see BIG drop on td-50 sound amount with modeling, MIMIC is "open architecture" will allow new sound expansion pack even more. Personally I like more MIMIC, less need to edit sound like TD-50 harder to operate and sound ok. TD-50 is more for people like electronic style. Price mimic is 2199$, TD-50 2500$
Not only that but I think its also worth mentioning that the only reason the TD50 has so many more advanced editing options is because they don't use multi layer samples but rather use samples that simply have the essential parts of a drums tone and fills the rest in with modeling. You can even hear this when cycling through instruments while playing. Especially in the kicks. The attack and overall tone of the kick will be the same and the only thing that changes in some cases is the sub bass and ambience of that kick. Which can easily be editing in the mimic to wait for it...…"Mimic" the sound of another instrument. Roland has explained how they make sounds in past manuals for drum modules. And while the quality may have improved the overall way they do things hasn't really changed all that much. I honestly think if they were to use multi layer pure drum samples first they would find it difficult to apply many of those deep editing features they are capable of. The td50 is like the Jurassic park of the edrum world. Chopping up tones and filling it in with synthetic DNA. Sure you get a new dinosaur but it will never be the real thing.
Where can i buy this ATV t shirt? :D
No idea haha! They gave it to me
I don't know if it's just my setup, but when I got the Mimic Pro, all the default kits needed quite a bit of tweaking in order to sound decent. Everything was very muddy and boomy. Did you have that issue at all?
Awesome video once again👍🏼 considering your experience, if $5000 - $6000 were your budget, would you go for the Roland Td 50 or any acoustic to electronic conversion set in that price range?
In the playing example for the mimic hi-hats i cant help but feel like they sound strikingly close to the alesis nitro mesh hi-hats. i might just be getting confused and maybe thinking of something else. can anyone help me out?
EDIT: the rides now sound very close to superior drummer three rides. whats going on?
Q: Am I seeing this correctly? Near the end of the video, is that basket stand-mounted tom on the left (right hand side if playing the drums) attached to a rubber crash through it's own 'former' kick drum mount?
I love the Mimic Pro sounds, but found as you were scrolling through them that the differences between individual sounds (snares, for instance) were mostly just pitch variations of the first. The sounds are realistic. I also like how the TD-50 has aux percussion and electronic sounds. Must be that digital ride, but MAN! That Roland ride performance is SOOOOO REALISTIC!! I was very impressed with that. The Roland toms sounded not so great and VERY MACHINE-GUNNY considering the cost of this module.
Love the videos! I've been binge-watching for a few days!
Can I use the mimic module on my roland kit ? say the TD 17KVX ?
Hey Justin I have a question. I have a roland td-3 module but I was wondering if there is a good software where I can record say a dark meinl byzance ride or any other high end cymbal in person and place that sound, with a few editing on it, to the software and use that sound on my kit?
What do you think of Millenium Mps-850 e drum kit? Do you think it’s worth buying? It would be nice to know, thank you.
Love the Snares sounds of Mimic !!!
This is impressive man🔥 I can't imagine how much work you have put in to this video. I watched it from start to end, even though I can't afford an entire drum set for the price for one of these modules. Keep it up man 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks so much Andreas! It did take a long long long time to make
@@65Drums and it paid off in the end. You made a fantastic video 🔥🔥 keep it up
Is the mimic compatible with td27kv?Is the digital snare and ride compatible?
Hello I ask you if the pearl mimic sempler works better we have Roland td 50 With version 1.7 But the sampler broke.
Wow great review! Thanks man
I like the Mimic sounds by itself. But the TD-50 sounds better in the songs. Also, there'll be a difference if the digital snare and rides are used.
I agree it comes down personal opinion on drum modules because I’ll tell you I’ve owned a td 30 then. Atv ad5 and now a td17 which I love I guess I’ve found I prefer Roland sounds but once you bring your own samples that just takes it to another level in my opinion
So what kit was the second mimic ride on
Hey edrum fans I have a question. Can I combine the best of two worlds from the TD-50 and SD3? I wanna play SD3 via midi from my MacBook. Do I have the full features of the roland multizone snare and ride ? Thank you
I think the mimic sounds are better to me. But those are Steven Slate sounds, right ?
yup
Peral Mimic Pro has just had a major software update come out so some features maybe better now
The 2Box Drumit is less than 1\2 the price and works with fsr.
I have seen a few of these older videos from you, but you never mention the TD 50's ability to use user samples in the internal RAM.
I'm scared of the lag the Mimic Pro has. Any experiences or tips?
I'm gonna get one of these. I'm leaning towards the Mimic Pro very heavily, because it just sounds so much better and I couldn't care less if Roland lets me edit their shady sounds a whole bunch more.
I know from your playing that you like the mimic more than the roland module. But both nice
Thank you Justin, great episode and review!! 10/10😀👌✨🌟🎵 hum... the Mimic definitely did sound thin on the cymbals, yet rich as a whole. But I didn't really know about those features on the TD50, a step above the 30... I want them both! "There can only be one" LOL✌
Can you give me an example where you would use two hi hats in tandem and still provide a musical experience? Not being a smartass, but legitimate question.
@@zachlamont5417 Hello, why would i use two separate sets of HiHats? I presume you're targeting Edrums. Tonal advantages are programed, so there's no benefit other than that. Yet, the purpose is for splitting rudiments throughout the set. Second, when "splitting" your chosen rudiments you can favor your dominate hand while opening your arm position freeing up the dominate hand to travel more &/or pull off more complex phrasings with 1 of your hand. True can be said for doubling up on the rides, snare.... it's your choice. It's about your rudiments. Did I answer your question? Yet, just my opinion on the matter.
the td 50 sounds so boring and dry out of the box, i own one myself, and it takes a LOT of tweaking to assemble a kit where every part of it sounds tolerable. I could see most people just wanting a simple plug n play drum module, and the TD-50 is NOT that, however, the td-50 is much more customizable and configurable, and has a much more tactile way of adjusting parameters than a clunky touch screen. The TD-50 is also very good for making really eccentric and wacky sounds
@Peter P td50 doesnt machine gun on most triggers where it matters
yeah, I just could not understand how bad the kick samples were on the td50, and no one has been able to give me an answer on it
Thats the point...
Yam dtx 3 i hab wit the blk pads .ol version .wit md50 bass n 2 sat.spkrs .been usin 4 over 15 yrs got em brand new .4me i happy..
Hi Justin, I have a question. I have the mimic pro and the screen goes into screen saver after a while ( time can be adjusted) but: shoud you turn it off after playing or can you leave it in "standby" modus. And for how long? I had the roland TD8 before and constantly left it on. I can't seem to find any info regarding this subject.Thanks
You can make the mimic sound like the td-50... But you can't make the td50 sound like the mimic
The TD-50 can sound like the mimic. Believe me.
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Hi... that video you tagged is showing one shot samples which the td50 also does lol soooo you kinda come across looking dumb rn hahah
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@@MeThOdMaNlililhkjg that shows exactly my point. That you can make the mimic sound like the mimic
While the Mimic won the audio test, I feel like the TD50 would still be my choice just for the faders alone.
@The Crimson Drummer I prefer the easy access on gigs
Run it through a small mixing desk then you have faders and EQ at your fingertips for about 50 quid.
Whats a fader?
Wearing headphones and the kick is super loud at certain parts of video. Sounds good but to me it seemed out of place being that loud. Great vid. Mimic I think is the winner here.
I love ALL Roland/BOSS products. And I kinda hate Pearl, with the exception that they do make some great snares, and I have never really been impressed with Pearl drum kits. However teaming up with Slate drums, they ended up with a great module. I admit the hi hat on the Roland module were the weak point to me, I do not know if the settings are stick or if you went nuts with adjusting the setting. I played a lower end Roland kit years back and after adjusting the settings to my liking, it sounded great.
Roland: up the collection of drumset and cymbal selection.
Pearl Mimic Pro: Have more options for settings.