This was a great video. If you've ever spent much time on a ship especially down lower in them, fire doors are very similar to watertight separations often times they may be both a fire separation and water compartmentalization. They can be almost thought as a similar component other than their rating. As both have a very similar purpose of containing and separating. Just thought that is a easy thing they can be compared to and could maybe demonstrate their purpose with something that is obvious to understand why it's so important and is a similar concept that operate in a very similar way.
Where I live there are devices you can get which can be mounted to a fire door to allow them to legally be held open They are battery powered, and are designed so that when the holder is engaged it “listens” for a fire alarm (it doesn’t have any electrical connections to the fire alarm system, although versions are available which use a wireless transmitter to send a “release” signal to the units rather than using microphones, although the wireless units are designed for larger installations of the holders) The first time I came across a “free swing” door closer, it confused me (I couldn’t figure out why the door would stay open in any position, and why the door closer had a cable going into it) And I remember that there was a school I went to where some of the staff couldn’t figure out why the emergency intercom thing for disabled people was in the stairwell area, and not next to the lift/elevator (that stairwell had fire doors (as you would expect), whereas the lift/elevator was just out in the open)
I've seen lots fire doors propped open with wooden wedges (even one on a stairway door with a small chunk of concrete) in various buildings in the Akron area. I always question the IQ of the building owners when it comes to this. Hell, I've even found door frames with nonexistent fire doors (even one in a suburban hospital!), which is definitely a violation right there. I think they need to have signs on every fire door that is not held open with a magnet similar to the ones in the UK. I even found one at my aunt and uncle's Catholic church that clearly had a "fire door: keep closed all times" sign and it was held open with a wedge. I would label that as a WTF moment. P. S. I actually found out they had automatic door magnets as far back as 1962
Fire mist which it is sprinkler but suppression but thanks to Johnson controls etc btw. Are life savers and reduces fire and such. So we want to talk about fire door sliders and closers which might be magnetic and such.
Once I removed a doorstop and installed the door back onto its magnet, someone actually came to stop me and said the magnet is only for in case of fire 😒
Awesome video! Also I don't know if you are taking video requests but can you make another fire extinguisher collection video? I am just a huge fire extinguisher enthusiast!
Lol the fire doors at my school are drunk... they were closing for no reason during every passing period today. also the EST3 panel was showing a trouble in a smoke detector.
A trouble will cause the system to close the fire doors. I know some systems (possibly all) will allow you to keep the fire doors open once the trouble is acknowledged. The only time I had that happen when I was in charge of handling the fire system I had acknowledged the trouble quite a while before I noticed the closed fire door (weekend period, typically only the security guard who was me usually goes through that door on the weekend). For those wondering how security guards handle fire systems, it varies, but here are the basics at least in my area: Systems NOT on test: -Fire alarms are handled by the fire department, we are to assist the fire department (and if some cases aid the evacuation of building occupants). -Priority 2 alarms are handled as appropriate (one place I think this is handled by EMS as they are "Man Down" alarms) -Supervisory signals are reported to maintenance and are acknowledged. These are sometimes lower priority alarms. Last one of these I handled was a test of the ammonia alarm system, the fire system was NOT on test, however my duty was to acknowledge the panel and advise the alarm company that we were just testing and no response was required. -Trouble signals are reported to maintenance and acknowledged. Systems ON Test: - All Signals are handled by security and/or maintenance as appropriate. Systems are placed on test for fire drills.
This was a great video. If you've ever spent much time on a ship especially down lower in them, fire doors are very similar to watertight separations often times they may be both a fire separation and water compartmentalization. They can be almost thought as a similar component other than their rating. As both have a very similar purpose of containing and separating. Just thought that is a easy thing they can be compared to and could maybe demonstrate their purpose with something that is obvious to understand why it's so important and is a similar concept that operate in a very similar way.
Don't forget there may be also things like fire curtains that drop down occasionally.
I won’t forget
Where I live there are devices you can get which can be mounted to a fire door to allow them to legally be held open
They are battery powered, and are designed so that when the holder is engaged it “listens” for a fire alarm (it doesn’t have any electrical connections to the fire alarm system, although versions are available which use a wireless transmitter to send a “release” signal to the units rather than using microphones, although the wireless units are designed for larger installations of the holders)
The first time I came across a “free swing” door closer, it confused me (I couldn’t figure out why the door would stay open in any position, and why the door closer had a cable going into it)
And I remember that there was a school I went to where some of the staff couldn’t figure out why the emergency intercom thing for disabled people was in the stairwell area, and not next to the lift/elevator (that stairwell had fire doors (as you would expect), whereas the lift/elevator was just out in the open)
That’s cool. Sounds like AGRIPPA or substitute. Those are cool and very interesting
I've seen lots fire doors propped open with wooden wedges (even one on a stairway door with a small chunk of concrete) in various buildings in the Akron area. I always question the IQ of the building owners when it comes to this. Hell, I've even found door frames with nonexistent fire doors (even one in a suburban hospital!), which is definitely a violation right there. I think they need to have signs on every fire door that is not held open with a magnet similar to the ones in the UK. I even found one at my aunt and uncle's Catholic church that clearly had a "fire door: keep closed all times" sign and it was held open with a wedge. I would label that as a WTF moment.
P. S. I actually found out they had automatic door magnets as far back as 1962
Hey man, just wanted to leave a comment saying you’re doing a great job, really like these informative “documentary” style videos!
Same. They are interesting and he should make more.
It would be interesting to hear about smoke control systems
Good video suggestion
Fire mist which it is sprinkler but suppression but thanks to Johnson controls etc btw. Are life savers and reduces fire and such. So we want to talk about fire door sliders and closers which might be magnetic and such.
For real
@@FireAlarmDude5967 yep so the doors that are magnetic either pocket doors or close doors for lockdown or fire prevention etc.
The ones where I work has also automatically shut in the rare occasion a brief power outage occurs.
My school had these doors everywhere. To me they were never annoying. I always liked it when doors were closed
I'm sure our school has these doors. However, I'm not sure if they're connected to the system. Very good details you specified - good work.
I'm pretty sure some buildings have a smoke control system and an action to section off the ventilation system so smoke won't spread
This is a great video, very informative. Keep up the good work!
@FireAlarmDude5967 some buildings also have make up air doors in addition to the fire doors because they have exhaust and pressurization fans
Awesome video!
Thanks!
Who new a small piece of wood could be so deadly?
For sure! And I think people just don’t know how dangerous it can be
Not me
@@FireAlarmDude5967 yeah
Once I removed a doorstop and installed the door back onto its magnet, someone actually came to stop me and said the magnet is only for in case of fire 😒
That sounds ridiculous
Didn't know a small piece of wood in a triangle shape can be dangerous
Great !!!
Awesome video! Also I don't know if you are taking video requests but can you make another fire extinguisher collection video? I am just a huge fire extinguisher enthusiast!
Perhaps!
Lol the fire doors at my school are drunk... they were closing for no reason during every passing period today. also the EST3 panel was showing a trouble in a smoke detector.
That’s no good
A trouble will cause the system to close the fire doors. I know some systems (possibly all) will allow you to keep the fire doors open once the trouble is acknowledged. The only time I had that happen when I was in charge of handling the fire system I had acknowledged the trouble quite a while before I noticed the closed fire door (weekend period, typically only the security guard who was me usually goes through that door on the weekend).
For those wondering how security guards handle fire systems, it varies, but here are the basics at least in my area:
Systems NOT on test:
-Fire alarms are handled by the fire department, we are to assist the fire department (and if some cases aid the evacuation of building occupants).
-Priority 2 alarms are handled as appropriate (one place I think this is handled by EMS as they are "Man Down" alarms)
-Supervisory signals are reported to maintenance and are acknowledged. These are sometimes lower priority alarms. Last one of these I handled was a test of the ammonia alarm system, the fire system was NOT on test, however my duty was to acknowledge the panel and advise the alarm company that we were just testing and no response was required.
-Trouble signals are reported to maintenance and acknowledged.
Systems ON Test:
- All Signals are handled by security and/or maintenance as appropriate. Systems are placed on test for fire drills.
Mosg fire doors are permantly locked on one side, so that no one can open them.
“Most” is a bit inaccurate
Question, are fire lite bg10 series still being manufactured
They are not
@@FireAlarmDude5967 that’s sad
First
pov me when I see a new video: 🥹😀😎
lol anyway happy Friday!!
Happy Friday to you as well