Your band mate of 10 years is diagnosed with heart cancer, and you tell him that the band is moving on without him, and IF he gets better he will be welcomed back and you don't understand why him and his family stopped talking to you? That's a pretty crappy move. Like someone else commented, Def Leppard waited 4 years for Rick Allen to learn to drum with one arm but Kiss couldn't wait out Eric's illness before deciding what to do? No wonder he is on record as saying he always felt like he was going to be replaced. Eric was partly responsible for the band's resurgence, he deserved better than what Gene and Paul did to him.
You are SO right Mike! Definitely Leopard has had many issues, but have been there for each other, ALWAYS!!!!! Stagefright? I doubt it. Thanx Mike. ROCK ON!!!!!!!!!
Eric Carr is my favorite kiss drummer! You can see the love he had for music when he played and his energy was awesome. Eric and Bruce is what made kiss great again. RIP Eric Carr
Eric Carr must have felt un-Appreciated by Gene & Paul but us Fan's Appreciated him and his Contributions to Kiss he breathed new life into that band. He was an incredible Drummer and Person one of my all-time influences along with numerous other Drummers. one of the all time Greatest Drummers ever Rip Eric Carr we miss you very much GOD bless you and your family. \mm/ 1950-1991.
I'm not saying this to stick up for Simmons and Stanley but, what you need to understand is they were under a recording contract with Mercury. They were required to record and release "X" amount of albums by a certain time. By the time they found out Eric was sick, they were already in pre-production. They knew they only had Bob Ezrin for a certain amount of time. If Gene and Paul failed to produce on their end of the contract they signed, it could've costed them millions because of a potential breach in contract. I don't believe they wanted to start without Eric, but they had no choice. Yes, I'm quite sure they knew it was going to hurt his feelings, but they didn't do it to hurt him. I'm under contact now and my contract states I must deliver my next album by 2018. It's business. It wasn't personal. Either way, the world lost an amazing person and a talented drummer. I guarantee you Gene and Paul beat themselves up for doing what they had to do against doing what should have been done. I'm sure a clause in their record contract could've been worked out.
So what they would have ate a couple of million through breach of contract. They both have more money than the Vatican. You stick by your brother and put things on hold. Had it been gene or Paul it would have slammed to a stop.
So Paul shrugs off the doctors' concerns that Eric may have heart cancer, is told later by Eric that it is indeed cancer, pushes the band to continue and record without Eric anyway, and then later can't figure out why Eric or his family had stopped talking with him or Gene. In his book, Paul kept insinuating that Eric Carr was a paranoid reclusive weirdo and even called him a schmuck. I admire Paul as a musician, but as a person I'd want to stay as far away from this guy as I possibly could. Who needs a backstabbing friend like this?
Sounded like he was trying to encourage him; keep his spirits up. If you're given a serious diagnosis, doesn't everyone around you tell you, 'You can beat this.' ? Unfortunately, EC was terminal. There was nothing anyone could have done to alter the inevitable outcome. If you've read PSs book, check out pages 253,254,255. EC is quoted in a few light hearted gaffe moments referring to himself as such. Pg 253, "Eric wore a brand-new white suit to dinner. His first. Not ten minutes into the night, he spilled a huge glass of red wine all over it. At times like that he would close his eyes and mutter, "What a schmuck."" It was ECs self-deprecating humor. Not derogatory from PS There's an audio version available on UTube that's edited to make it sound like PSs calling him a schmuck.
Not completely accurate. Paul never called Eric a schmuck. He's quoting Eric's own words; whenever Eric fucked up something, he called himself a schmuck. Re-read those bits in Paul's autobiography.
And in a sea of downright hateful comments it's refreshing for once to read one that clearly comes form a sane individual and not just someone who wants to bash on Gene and Paul..
I've been a kiss fan from 1976 till 2001. Kiss always said how the stage was a holy spot. If you talk the talk gotta walk the walk...well look who's lipsynking it now. Look who's not giving the fans their money worth. Look who is desecrating the stage the holy spot. Mr.Stanley
@cwdrew1 (and others) WOW... some of you haters REALLY know how to hate! And to quote shit outta Pauls book when its obvious you didnt even read what Paul wrote! Why would you push a lie like that?
I truly think Eric Carr was the only one of Kiss who had a great character as a person and who I could imagine to be a friend with. So sad he had to die so early and the pain he was going through...
I had the distinct Honor Pleasure an Privilege to meet Eric Carr throughout the 80 's . very nice guy . funny ad he'll too . had a heart the size of the planet . always so willing to accommodate us fans . have great memories of the great LITTLE CAESAR!!!!! . HAIL CAESAR. ☺😊
So sad that his death was overshadowed in the media by another great, Freddie Mercury . Eric was a good guy. He didn't let his fame go to his head. He loved what he did and most of all us..his fans. We miss you Eric Carr.
Every time I hear God Gave Rock And Roll To You, I get sad. I wasn't born the year Eric Carr died, but it's pretty damn sad that a sweet soul had to pass at such a young age... that's life I guess but sad. RIP, Eric Carr.
"We understand you're facing an horrific, life-threatening, crushing, terrifying, heart-breaking situation, but we need to move forward. If you get better, then you can come back to the band. If not, well, then, I guess that means you will have died. But see, we have this music video thing we want to make, where we pretend to play a song. It's real important. It's for a ridiculous sequel to a stupid movie, but nobody ever asks us to do things like this, so we're real excited. Take care. Maybe we'll see you later. Maybe not."
Many posters here don't understand the big business of the music industry. If you think that YOU would put your successful music career which is generating tens of millions of dollars on hold because the guy that replaced your old drummer was sick you are lying to yourselves... It's easy to judge from the outside...
Donald Mousseau "the love of money, is the root of all evil".........hmmm.....who said that.........hmmm.....well, whoever it was, sure spoke The Truth.
The message of things....let your buddy who cares so much for your band and the legacy he leaves behind for you.....let the guy fucking play! If he feels he can do it.....stand by him til he says he cant!!
I returned to this comment upon someone liking it...and I watched this again...It just seems like Eric, who I know loved KISS (even before being a member) When someone is faced with the situation such as a life threating thing such as his cancer was...how could you pull the rug out from under the dude? Kiss was something that gave the guy a fight...what...? did he not prove that "doing the video over and over"? It's just like this...the guy has cancer then the band that he loved and desired so hard to be considered still the backbone and still a member of til his death basically took the fight from him by sidelining him. He pretty much had nothing to fight for any more it must have felt like. Gene you and Paul have some serious soul searching to do...and guys when the ol' "comes around goes around" thing happens for ya....that's one sword I'd hate to be under when it comes to you 2.How could "to continue to go forward" be the right call for you guys? I doubt the fucking light bills were stacking up or anything! Eric, was a very good drummer,(I'm a drummer myself now 32 years, so I'd know) a lover of music and in my opinion...the best thing to ever grace your band! I love you all's music but as people....you 2 fucking suck!
It's sad that neither Simmons, nor Stanley have accompanied him in his final, Eric Carr who gave so much to KISS, rest in peace beloved Eric Carr, your fans do not forget you 🌼🙏
they couldn't, they wanted to comunicate with him but everyone related to eric shut them off, even at the funeral ,when they went,everyone stared them badly :/
Funny Def Leppard can wait 4 years for Rick Allen to figure out how to play drums with 1 arm but these 2 clowns couldn't give Eric the time or dignity to see him through this... I was no longer a fan after his death and lost complete respect for "those 2" clowns!!! R.I.P Eric
I don't think your being very fair comparing Def Leppard's situation to KISS and Eric. Def Leppard's members were long time friends who built that band up from the ground up and attained fame and success. KISS was established for 10 plus years and Eric was a replacement for a former original member. It seems unfair that they put their careers old complete hold while Eric seeks treatments and tries to get healthy. That could take years. That fact that they told him to get well then come back was best for both parties. Unfortunately Eric's illness didn't allow that.
You ever learned the solo to Love Gun? Mediocre? Funny, you are young, in the 70s there was no mediocre, there was rock and roll and not a bunch of snot nosed pussies telling others how someone sucked or did not.
rbagel55 mediocre? Thats quite ignorant brother. tell me some songs by kiss that are mediocre. They weren't merchandising that much before Destroyer. Why was destroyer so good? Oyeah they released songs that became hits. How were they famous before then? Oyeah they wrote good fuckin music. Just cuz a song doesn't have 2 million notes in it doesn't mean it sucks
Eric Carr loved KISS more than any member that has ever been in the band. Eric had a passion for the music and didn't want it to slip out of his hands. God rest his soul...
Along with Eric Carr's passing, came the abrupt end to the 'Oringinal run' of Kiss' initial success from '73 to '90. I agree. Yes - we witnessed a great return for the original lineup in 1995. Something needed to return to normality after Eric Carr's passing but, as far as I am concerned, the origin of Kiss' success ceased on November 24th 1991. Thereafter, has just been a celebration of Kiss' previous success.
Being a KISS fan , this really is shameful ...what a friend of 10 plus years does is ...take a break and support him fully through this hard time. Love him instead of making him feel like a nothing . He was too good for them. They can only wish on their best day that they could have a heart like the Fox . He had heart cancer and then they finished his heart off by breaking it .
Eric Carr great guy met him on the hot in the shade concert my 1st concert very friendly guy so was Bruce Kulick..I love Paul and Gene and we all deal with stuff differently so im not gonna judge there actions during this time period..But if that was his last song with Kiss it sure kicks ass😊
Can't sleep so I decided to troll through old videos and comments. A lot of comments below seem very unfair. Gene and Paul wanted him in the band. Cancer is extremely hard on the body. They just wanted Eric to focus on getting better because his place was secure. They didn't want to cause more harm to Eric. Paul and Gene made sure he wanted for NOTHING. Unfortunately, KISS was under contract and they HAD to move forward. Paul have been consistent about always expecting Eric to return. Eric was awesome.
I just don't understand these guys. I think Eric Carr knew that he didn't have a long time to live and he wanted to do as much as he could before he died yet Gene and Paul couldn't see this? They knew Eric's chances of surviving were slim, why the hell did they not go out of their way to do as much as they could humanly possibly do with him? Ace, in a convention he did in Florida in '93 talked of a phone conversation he had with Eric before he died where Eric was in tears about being unceremoniously kicked from the band. Seriously, this justification of mental abuse on these two clowns' parts make me so angry with them about how they treated Eric Carr and his illness. What a pathetic bunch of apathetic, childish narcissists that can't handle reality and mortality that they couldn't do Eric the one favor of letting him do all that he could do with the band before he died.
They were cut out because The KISS brand wanted to cut his health insurance. Read The Eric Carr biography. Very good book. The last 3rd is sad, but it's how things went down. Apparently the writer was a great friend of Eric's. Eric told him Ace is on Creatures, but just on some fills. Paul and Gene knock all former band members except Bruce and Eric Carr. Ace, Peter, Vinnie and Mark St. John all came and visited Eric several times. The biographer talks about how Ace tried to get a "lady" in to the hospital for Eric.
i have been a kiss fan since 1978 and still am but they did move on a little too fast and touring ,kiss had made alot of money by then they could have waited a bit they were touring not even 6months after he died come on man he was in your band for 11 fucking years def leppard took 15 teen months off after steve clark died,
I feel sad for this situation, I can't help thinking about when Freddie Mercury and Queen had a similar situation, they went and recorded as much as was possible, rather than find a new singer etc. I feel the way that Paul and Gene talk about this is so detached and cold.
No one will ever convince me otherwise that Eric Carr wasn’t KISS’s best drummer and maybe one of the best drummers of all time. He had an obsessed passion for perfecting his skills and talents but always felt he wasn’t good enough, I believe Eric truly never knew how great he really was and I don’t mean just as a drummer neither but as one cool human being! RIP Eric The Fox Carr.
A FRIEND Paul called him..now I see another segment here on utube he's talking trash about Him!! I don't know what is that called again...oh yeah 2FACED you think about that!!!
Yup its plain disgusting!!!! The funny part ace don't seem to be to fazed by it..I've seen him 2x to and both shows were awesome..frehleys commet back in the day and rocket ride show awsome
Marko Zrinščak 1990, Hot In The Shade tour. Look up the 3 sides of the coin show, subject "What if Eric Carr never died" and read my post. That's one example. Not to mention hearing certain things from a family member directly to me that I will not share out of respect.
I bot my Ludwig accent drum kits it has bigger deeper toms. Because of Eric Carr l like his drum kit glossy black. That’s were I got the inspiration from. Rest In Peace 🌹🌹🌹🥁
@@kipdon hey, im the uploader of this video im using a different account right now, wish I could change the title but never was able to change it since I lost my password, I have a lot of regard for Eric carr he was just a good soul.. we all miss him !
Dan Zabo Fuckhead Dan Zabo paid Troll, you just want to continue supporting your cult and cult leaders, and haven't yet come to terms with reality and honesty.
I don't think it's that simple. It doesn't sound like a good situation but I think Kiss had to do what Kiss had to do. In all fairness (as someone who has gone through serious cancer treatment) there are times where you are incapable of doing your job and need to focus on your health, just like Gene says here. My guess (given the seriousness of Eric's particular cancer) is that Eric wasn't able to perform at the level Kiss needed at the time and for some reason put the blame on G+P for it. It is not their fault for moving forward when opportunities come up. I would not blame them. Whatever the case (I wasn't there) it sounds a great deal more complicated than either side lets on and regardless of what happened personally, it ended in Eric dying. Which sucks and is no one's fault. A damn shame.
76sagi It's ALL a lovely story and the public sucked up like they usually do. Docile Americans and freemason puppets. It was NO doubt in reality a hoax death Eric Carr.
I was a diehard Kiss fan since the beginning, but I lost all respect for them for continuing knowing that Eric Carr had one of the rarest and deadliest cancers, they knew he was dying and Kiss was his life. No wonder his family was pissed, he only had months and they knew it. SHAME ON THEM
I don't know what entertains me more: Kiss music, or this hate story between each others, so they didn't released Solo albums this time, but they released books which they are just spiting onto each other's names. What the heck Kiss, where's the old Rock n Roll passion!
Fact is truth ...gene and Paul think of themselves first and foremost...end of quote..anything about the $ comes first...believe what eric s family says...
I wish they would have put at least SOME footage of Eric playing with his make-up in the God gave rock n roll to you video. Dam shame, R.I.P Eric, the Fox Rocks!!
R.I.P. Eric, Always WAS my favorite Kiss drummer, no disrespect to Peter(or Singer, for that matter)...as an aside, watching this video, did anyone else notice how little they showed Bruce?...even less than Eric...Video = 98% Paul and Gene, 1.5% Eric, and 0.5% Bruce.....
I apologize.. I'm the uploader of this video, Im currently using another RUclips channel, wish i could change the title but i forgot the password for this account in which i uploaded this video.
Geddy and Alex of Rush waited 5 years for Neil Peart in the wake of Neil's personal tragedies (death of daughter and wife). The reaction of Paul and Gene is the legacy of Paul and Gene. Eric would have died anyway, so why not wait, allow him to die as a member of the band? But not these two guys. Their greed and selfishness outweighed everything else.
@@bienchingon9272 / I guess it does then. I own the set, but for some reason don't remember it being 6 minutes long. I know it's at the end of volume II.
Eric Carr was a good dude. Still missing the Fox!
Rest in peace Eric Carr. we all miss and love you!!!!!!!!!!
You will NEVER be forgotten, Eric. You were the most technically sound drummer KISS ever had.
Your band mate of 10 years is diagnosed with heart cancer, and you tell him that the band is moving on without him, and IF he gets better he will be welcomed back and you don't understand why him and his family stopped talking to you? That's a pretty crappy move. Like someone else commented, Def Leppard waited 4 years for Rick Allen to learn to drum with one arm but Kiss couldn't wait out Eric's illness before deciding what to do? No wonder he is on record as saying he always felt like he was going to be replaced. Eric was partly responsible for the band's resurgence, he deserved better than what Gene and Paul did to him.
You are SO right Mike!
Definitely Leopard has had many issues, but have been there for each other, ALWAYS!!!!!
Stagefright?
I doubt it.
Thanx Mike. ROCK ON!!!!!!!!!
Supposedly they didn't want to pay for his health insurance so nothing is surprising.
Eric Carr is my favorite kiss drummer! You can see the love he had for music when he played and his energy was awesome. Eric and Bruce is what made kiss great again. RIP Eric Carr
Every KISS fan loves Eric Carr. We all miss him
Eric Carr must have felt un-Appreciated by Gene & Paul but us Fan's Appreciated him and his Contributions to Kiss he breathed new life into that band. He was an incredible Drummer and Person one of my all-time influences along with numerous other Drummers. one of the all time Greatest Drummers ever Rip Eric Carr we miss you very much GOD bless you and your family. \mm/ 1950-1991.
I'm not saying this to stick up for Simmons and Stanley but, what you need to understand is they were under a recording contract with Mercury. They were required to record and release "X" amount of albums by a certain time. By the time they found out Eric was sick, they were already in pre-production. They knew they only had Bob Ezrin for a certain amount of time.
If Gene and Paul failed to produce on their end of the contract they signed, it could've costed them millions because of a potential breach in contract.
I don't believe they wanted to start without Eric, but they had no choice. Yes, I'm quite sure they knew it was going to hurt his feelings, but they didn't do it to hurt him.
I'm under contact now and my contract states I must deliver my next album by 2018. It's business. It wasn't personal. Either way, the world lost an amazing person and a talented drummer. I guarantee you Gene and Paul beat themselves up for doing what they had to do against doing what should have been done. I'm sure a clause in their record contract could've been worked out.
So what they would have ate a couple of million through breach of contract. They both have more money than the Vatican. You stick by your brother and put things on hold. Had it been gene or Paul it would have slammed to a stop.
thank you for sharing us this context.
So Paul shrugs off the doctors' concerns that Eric may have heart cancer, is told later by Eric that it is indeed cancer, pushes the band to continue and record without Eric anyway, and then later can't figure out why Eric or his family had stopped talking with him or Gene. In his book, Paul kept insinuating that Eric Carr was a paranoid reclusive weirdo and even called him a schmuck. I admire Paul as a musician, but as a person I'd want to stay as far away from this guy as I possibly could. Who needs a backstabbing friend like this?
Sounded like he was trying to encourage him; keep his spirits up. If you're given a serious diagnosis, doesn't everyone around you tell you, 'You can beat this.' ? Unfortunately, EC was terminal. There was nothing anyone could have done to alter the inevitable outcome. If you've read PSs book, check out pages 253,254,255. EC is quoted in a few light hearted gaffe moments referring to himself as such. Pg 253, "Eric wore a brand-new white suit to dinner. His first. Not ten minutes into the night, he spilled a huge glass of red wine all over it. At times like that he would close his eyes and mutter, "What a schmuck."" It was ECs self-deprecating humor. Not derogatory from PS There's an audio version available on UTube that's edited to make it sound like PSs calling him a schmuck.
Not completely accurate. Paul never called Eric a schmuck. He's quoting Eric's own words; whenever Eric fucked up something, he called himself a schmuck. Re-read those bits in Paul's autobiography.
And in a sea of downright hateful comments it's refreshing for once to read one that clearly comes form a sane individual and not just someone who wants to bash on Gene and Paul..
I've been a kiss fan from 1976 till 2001. Kiss always said how the stage was a holy spot. If you talk the talk gotta walk the walk...well look who's lipsynking it now. Look who's not giving the fans their money worth. Look who is desecrating the stage the holy spot. Mr.Stanley
@cwdrew1 (and others)
WOW... some of you haters REALLY know how to hate!
And to quote shit outta Pauls book when its obvious you didnt even read what Paul wrote! Why would you push a lie like that?
It wasn't the cancer that killed Eric Carr, he died of a broken heart and you know who's to blame.
Damn dude, well put.
I truly think Eric Carr was the only one of Kiss who had a great character as a person and who I could imagine to be a friend with. So sad he had to die so early and the pain he was going through...
I had the distinct Honor Pleasure an Privilege to meet Eric Carr throughout the 80 's . very nice guy . funny ad he'll too . had a heart the size of the planet . always so willing to accommodate us fans . have great memories of the great LITTLE CAESAR!!!!! . HAIL CAESAR. ☺😊
So sad that his death was overshadowed in the media by another great, Freddie Mercury . Eric was a good guy. He didn't let his fame go to his head. He loved what he did and most of all us..his fans. We miss you Eric Carr.
Every time I hear God Gave Rock And Roll To You, I get sad. I wasn't born the year Eric Carr died, but it's pretty damn sad that a sweet soul had to pass at such a young age... that's life I guess but sad. RIP, Eric Carr.
"We understand you're facing an horrific, life-threatening, crushing, terrifying, heart-breaking situation, but we need to move forward. If you get better, then you can come back to the band. If not, well, then, I guess that means you will have died. But see, we have this music video thing we want to make, where we pretend to play a song. It's real important. It's for a ridiculous sequel to a stupid movie, but nobody ever asks us to do things like this, so we're real excited. Take care. Maybe we'll see you later. Maybe not."
Exactly! "The record label needs Revenge. The world needs it, too. And because Bob Ezrin is available now, we have to do this."
Many posters here don't understand the big business of the music industry. If you think that YOU would put your successful music career which is generating tens of millions of dollars on hold because the guy that replaced your old drummer was sick you are lying to yourselves... It's easy to judge from the outside...
Donald Mousseau Def Leppard were the biggest band going at the time they waited for Rick Allen.
Donald Mousseau "the love of money, is the root of all evil".........hmmm.....who said that.........hmmm.....well, whoever it was, sure spoke The Truth.
Don’t bash the Bill and Ted movies
The message of things....let your buddy who cares so much for your band and the legacy he leaves behind for you.....let the guy fucking play! If he feels he can do it.....stand by him til he says he cant!!
I returned to this comment upon someone liking it...and I watched this again...It just seems like Eric, who I know loved KISS (even before being a member) When someone is faced with the situation such as a life threating thing such as his cancer was...how could you pull the rug out from under the dude? Kiss was something that gave the guy a fight...what...? did he not prove that "doing the video over and over"? It's just like this...the guy has cancer then the band that he loved and desired so hard to be considered still the backbone and still a member of til his death basically took the fight from him by sidelining him. He pretty much had nothing to fight for any more it must have felt like. Gene you and Paul have some serious soul searching to do...and guys when the ol' "comes around goes around" thing happens for ya....that's one sword I'd hate to be under when it comes to you 2.How could "to continue to go forward" be the right call for you guys? I doubt the fucking light bills were stacking up or anything! Eric, was a very good drummer,(I'm a drummer myself now 32 years, so I'd know) a lover of music and in my opinion...the best thing to ever grace your band! I love you all's music but as people....you 2 fucking suck!
Long live the memory of the late, great Eric Carr.
The Clarences
Rock in peace miss you best drummer ever Eric singer can't take your place see you in 90 yrs
It's sad that neither Simmons, nor Stanley have accompanied him in his final, Eric Carr who gave so much to KISS, rest in peace beloved Eric Carr, your fans do not forget you 🌼🙏
they couldn't, they wanted to comunicate with him but everyone related to eric shut them off, even at the funeral ,when they went,everyone stared them badly :/
Eric did love us fans 😔
Funny Def Leppard can wait 4 years for Rick Allen to figure out how to play drums with 1 arm but these 2 clowns couldn't give Eric the time or dignity to see him through this... I was no longer a fan after his death and lost complete respect for "those 2" clowns!!! R.I.P Eric
They are money grubbing Jews don't ya know? Explains a lot of this situation. Especially Gene Hymiestein Simmons.
jon slate Paul and gene are insufferable and selfish picks
I don't think your being very fair comparing Def Leppard's situation to KISS and Eric. Def Leppard's members were long time friends who built that band up from the ground up and attained fame and success. KISS was established for 10 plus years and Eric was a replacement for a former original member. It seems unfair that they put their careers old complete hold while Eric seeks treatments and tries to get healthy. That could take years. That fact that they told him to get well then come back was best for both parties. Unfortunately Eric's illness didn't allow that.
You ever learned the solo to Love Gun? Mediocre? Funny, you are young, in the 70s there was no mediocre, there was rock and roll and not a bunch of snot nosed pussies telling others how someone sucked or did not.
rbagel55 mediocre? Thats quite ignorant brother. tell me some songs by kiss that are mediocre. They weren't merchandising that much before Destroyer. Why was destroyer so good? Oyeah they released songs that became hits. How were they famous before then? Oyeah they wrote good fuckin music. Just cuz a song doesn't have 2 million notes in it doesn't mean it sucks
Eric Carr loved KISS more than any member that has ever been in the band. Eric had a passion for the music and didn't want it to slip out of his hands. God rest his soul...
Gene and Paul You treated Eric Carr like fuckin SHIT the whole time he was in KISS...my hats of to Eric RIP buddy
Along with Eric Carr's passing, came the abrupt end to the 'Oringinal run' of Kiss' initial success from '73 to '90. I agree. Yes - we witnessed a great return for the original lineup in 1995. Something needed to return to normality after Eric Carr's passing but, as far as I am concerned, the origin of Kiss' success ceased on November 24th 1991. Thereafter, has just been a celebration of Kiss' previous success.
Being a KISS fan , this really is shameful ...what a friend of 10 plus years does is ...take a break and support him fully through this hard time. Love him instead of making him feel like a nothing . He was too good for them. They can only wish on their best day that they could have a heart like the Fox . He had heart cancer and then they finished his heart off by breaking it .
My Brother while playing as a studio drummer played for Ozzy & for Joe Jackson(I know right?) Met Eric , and said he's the most easy goin guy...
"He was wearing a wig at this point" - Paul Stanley.
HA! They were ALL wearing wigs at this point!
Gene doesn't wear a wig on his head, it's actually road kill.
Not Bruce!
No, actually Kulick has some help up there, too.
76sagi + No they weren't.
Gene wears a pube wig now.
Eric Carr great guy met him on the hot in the shade concert my 1st concert very friendly guy so was Bruce Kulick..I love Paul and Gene and we all deal with stuff differently so im not gonna judge there actions during this time period..But if that was his last song with Kiss it sure kicks ass😊
Can't sleep so I decided to troll through old videos and comments. A lot of comments below seem very unfair. Gene and Paul wanted him in the band. Cancer is extremely hard on the body. They just wanted Eric to focus on getting better because his place was secure. They didn't want to cause more harm to Eric. Paul and Gene made sure he wanted for NOTHING. Unfortunately, KISS was under contract and they HAD to move forward. Paul have been consistent about always expecting Eric to return. Eric was awesome.
How many folks think he would still be the drummer of Kiss today, if he hadn’t passed away?
No doubt
r.i.p. Eric Carr :(
The best drummer KISS has ever had 🤘🤘
I just don't understand these guys. I think Eric Carr knew that he didn't have a long time to live and he wanted to do as much as he could before he died yet Gene and Paul couldn't see this? They knew Eric's chances of surviving were slim, why the hell did they not go out of their way to do as much as they could humanly possibly do with him? Ace, in a convention he did in Florida in '93 talked of a phone conversation he had with Eric before he died where Eric was in tears about being unceremoniously kicked from the band. Seriously, this justification of mental abuse on these two clowns' parts make me so angry with them about how they treated Eric Carr and his illness. What a pathetic bunch of apathetic, childish narcissists that can't handle reality and mortality that they couldn't do Eric the one favor of letting him do all that he could do with the band before he died.
They were cut out because The KISS brand wanted to cut his health insurance. Read The Eric Carr biography. Very good book. The last 3rd is sad, but it's how things went down. Apparently the writer was a great friend of Eric's. Eric told him Ace is on Creatures, but just on some fills. Paul and Gene knock all former band members except Bruce and Eric Carr. Ace, Peter, Vinnie and Mark St. John all came and visited Eric several times. The biographer talks about how Ace tried to get a "lady" in to the hospital for Eric.
Bands that have the whole "the show must go on" attitude are sickening. No bandmate loyalty. Only loyal to the almighty buck.
I love you eric carr 😢 🙏
R.I.P Eric we love you in life just as much in death. rock heavens socks off man.
Just wanted to do one more album for his fans , we he still could. And he knew he could do it. Miss you Mr.Carr
My husband died of the same cancer in 2006. 😪
2:42 he always plays his heart out
Eric should been inducted to the rock n roll hall of fame..
Yes he should've
RIP Eric...
R.I.P eric carr
Rock in peace Eric Carr
Seeing KISS without Eric Carr breaks my heart😭. Eric was a cool and cute guy! We love u, Eric Carr Vinnie Paul Gene Peter and Ace misses u❤❤
shame he passed there will never be another fox Rock in Peace
Eric Carr was the most beloved member, original or replacement.
i have been a kiss fan since 1978 and still am but they did move on a little too fast and touring ,kiss had made alot of money by then they could have waited a bit they were touring not even 6months after he died come on man he was in your band for 11 fucking years def leppard took 15 teen months off after steve clark died,
Bruce Kulick says Eric did vocals for God Gave Rock 'N Roll To You.
I feel sad for this situation, I can't help thinking about when Freddie Mercury and Queen had a similar situation, they went and recorded as much as was possible, rather than find a new singer etc. I feel the way that Paul and Gene talk about this is so detached and cold.
No one will ever convince me otherwise that Eric Carr wasn’t KISS’s best drummer and maybe one of the best drummers of all time. He had an obsessed passion for perfecting his skills and talents but always felt he wasn’t good enough, I believe Eric truly never knew how great he really was and I don’t mean just as a drummer neither but as one cool human being! RIP Eric The Fox Carr.
literally played his Heart Out🙏🙏🙏
Rip Eric I miss you every day, it sad how things ended for you. You didn’t deserve that, you were so important to kiss
Gave rock and roll to everyoooonneee
Amen brother
A FRIEND Paul called him..now I see another segment here on utube he's talking trash about Him!! I don't know what is that called again...oh yeah 2FACED you think about that!!!
Melissa Ivy Paul Stanley is a Fucking lying asshole .
such shame and embarrassment
Your right Melissa. i saw that same video. it led me here. Paul and Gene are Assholes. Ace was right.
Yup its plain disgusting!!!! The funny part ace don't seem to be to fazed by it..I've seen him 2x to and both shows were awesome..frehleys commet back in the day and rocket ride show awsome
I talk shit about my friends its what u do
RIP Eric..saw Kiss with Bruce and Eric back in '88 in Memphis Tn. ..Mid South Coliseum..they were awesome!
Poor Paul! I feel so bad for him!
Eric Carr's real first name was Paul.
RIP Eric (the fox) Carr you are truly missed
2:13 It was actually Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey. Which was the sequel.
True
I believe all the stress Gene and especially Paul gave Eric caused his illness. I really do.
You're an idiot...even assuming that they treated him with malice (which they did not) it wouldn't cause cancer. Some people, man...
Say what you must, but I actually do know for a fact how Paul treated him...
Marko Zrinščak 1990, Hot In The Shade tour. Look up the 3 sides of the coin show, subject "What if Eric Carr never died" and read my post. That's one example. Not to mention hearing certain things from a family member directly to me that I will not share out of respect.
seventyone71 stress is known to cause disease.
Hans Carlson Malice is seventyone71's mother.
everyone around gene and Paul has it rough, or has to do alcohol and drugs to cope and make it out alive. that's the effect of being around evil.
I love you Eric Carr,RIP
Nothing more important than the band. sad...
I bot my Ludwig accent drum kits it has bigger deeper toms. Because of Eric Carr l like his drum kit glossy black. That’s were I got the inspiration from. Rest In Peace 🌹🌹🌹🥁
They should have waited for Eric and been by his side. So tragic how he passed. rest in peace Eric 🙏🏻 miss you
The more I listen to them the more I ask myself, are they really honest?
change the title of this video. it's kinda rude.
Japanese symbol for Power.
power
well its kinda like the DEMISE of Eric Carr. sounds off and weird. call it Tribute 1991 or RIP 1991. whatever tho all good lol.
I thought that would be a good idea too
BUT ITS 3 YEARS LATER AND ITS STILL THE SAME
sad...
@@kipdon hey, im the uploader of this video im using a different account right now, wish I could change the title but never was able to change it since I lost my password, I have a lot of regard for Eric carr he was just a good soul.. we all miss him !
No offense to the haters if you dislike this video you have terrible taste in music
They shit on Eric Carr.
so he was fired on his death bed
Eric Carr is also full of bullshit.
@Sondra Lee, Why? Oh never mind I read your reasoning below! Tinfoil hat shit that is! Sondra I think the aliens just landed on your apartment roof.
Dan Zabo
Fuckhead Dan Zabo paid Troll, you just want to continue supporting your cult and cult leaders, and haven't yet come to terms with reality and honesty.
I don't think it's that simple. It doesn't sound like a good situation but I think Kiss had to do what Kiss had to do. In all fairness (as someone who has gone through serious cancer treatment) there are times where you are incapable of doing your job and need to focus on your health, just like Gene says here. My guess (given the seriousness of Eric's particular cancer) is that Eric wasn't able to perform at the level Kiss needed at the time and for some reason put the blame on G+P for it. It is not their fault for moving forward when opportunities come up. I would not blame them. Whatever the case (I wasn't there) it sounds a great deal more complicated than either side lets on and regardless of what happened personally, it ended in Eric dying. Which sucks and is no one's fault. A damn shame.
76sagi
It's ALL a lovely story and the public sucked up like they usually do. Docile Americans and freemason puppets. It was NO doubt in reality a hoax death Eric Carr.
I was a diehard Kiss fan since the beginning, but I lost all respect for them for continuing knowing that Eric Carr had one of the rarest and deadliest cancers, they knew he was dying and Kiss was his life. No wonder his family was pissed, he only had months and they knew it. SHAME ON THEM
Kind of Ironic that this video features old material with Ace and Peter. I knew something was going on right there and then
"We kicked him out of the band cos he got sick, and we were shocked that everyone took that badly"
They couldn’t wait to see what happens with him. Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
The way Paul has attacked him in his recent biography, maybe their initial reservations about Paul was warranted.
I don't know what entertains me more: Kiss music, or this hate story between each others, so they didn't released Solo albums this time, but they released books which they are just spiting onto each other's names.
What the heck Kiss, where's the old Rock n Roll passion!
Fact is truth ...gene and Paul think of themselves first and foremost...end of quote..anything about the $ comes first...believe what eric s family says...
I wish they would have put at least SOME footage of Eric playing with his make-up in the God gave rock n roll to you video. Dam shame, R.I.P Eric, the Fox Rocks!!
Nah, they just want as much screen time for Paul and Gene as possible. Quickly flash Eric and Bruce on the screen for two secs and that's it lol
Gene and Paul handled this wrong. They should have included Eric in whatever level he could contribute.
Eric didn't play on the song, just on the video. He was very sick when he did the video. 😦
Eric Singer played on the record
eric hated paul
It's easy to do.
searaydrivingguy most people do...
I don’t
Where are your facts?
Shalimar Robles about not hating Paul
Is this from a dvd or something? I'd like to purchase it!
Rip Eric Carr.
Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons 2 of the most selfish human beings on the planet
They only told the half truth they fired him and cancelled his health insurance
R.I.P. Eric, Always WAS my favorite Kiss drummer, no disrespect to Peter(or Singer, for that matter)...as an aside, watching this video, did anyone else notice how little they showed Bruce?...even less than Eric...Video = 98% Paul and Gene, 1.5% Eric, and 0.5% Bruce.....
I uploaded this video, ripped it from the Kissology collection Vol. 2
foi o melhor baterista do mundo ele maior fã
the title though.... Surely you could retitle it with something better
I apologize.. I'm the uploader of this video, Im currently using another RUclips channel, wish i could change the title but i forgot the password for this account in which i uploaded this video.
@@bienchingon9272 Oh Dayum.
Geddy and Alex of Rush waited 5 years for Neil Peart in the wake of Neil's personal tragedies (death of daughter and wife). The reaction of Paul and Gene is the legacy of Paul and Gene. Eric would have died anyway, so why not wait, allow him to die as a member of the band? But not these two guys. Their greed and selfishness outweighed everything else.
RIP ERIC CARR
Is this audio from the *Kiss X-treme* video?
No. It's from the Kissology collection
@@bienchingon9272 / I know the MTV part is, along with the 1990 shot, but I don't think the talking is.
@@PerpetualArt the whole video is taken from the Kissology DVD set, as it was released, I uploaded this video on my other youtube channel.
@@bienchingon9272 / I guess it does then. I own the set, but for some reason don't remember it being 6 minutes long. I know it's at the end of volume II.
@@PerpetualArt you have to change the audio to listen to the commentary from Gene and Paul.
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RIP 🦊 🦊
Poor thing
that is sad
Ace was the only real musician of the original 4,Gene and Paul could BARELY play guitar/bass in the beginning.
🦊🤟😔
Pretty sure the movie was bogus journey not excellent adventure