CAMBER BOLTS AND WHAT THEY CAN DO FOR YOU
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Do not overtorque your aftermarket camber bolts!
Make sure to keep the bolt head from spinning as you torque the nuts down!
A cheap and non-invasive method to achieving 1-2° of additional camber in order to finetune fitment.
After tons of videos of guys not knowing what they’re doing I just wanna say thanks for explaining this in a way that make perfect sense. I had tried to installed them today but gave up and reinstalled my stock OEM bolts because I could get them to match on Both sides. I had a feeling that washer tab was throwing them off because they were not seated in the same position. Thanks a million bud.
Good stuff! No problem!
Perfect explanation, no b.s. useless filling, a beer on my tab for this guy.
You are the first person I have ever seen that explained how the lobe and washer worked. Every resource I found never mentioned the lobe and just talked about the washer, as if the tab direction was what actually set the camber. Thank you.
Great presentation. Nice videography and clear explanation. You hit on every point you need to know about using these aftermarket kits, plus some tips on the factory bolts that a lot of techs don't even know. This guy knows his stuff!!
This video really help me understand how the knuckle and the camber bolts are suppose to work. My OEM bolts were completely ceased right in but with liquid wrench and some patience after 2 hours per caster I finally worked it out. My OEM are just regular bolts and my knuckle was completely ceased too. So I need to work on clearing out my rust on the knuckle and get some movement like in your video. Your video also answered about question about both bolts being after market (If needs be). Thanks for making this video!
Thank you for your kind words?
I just was trying to figure out what was wrong with my car and they kept telling me about a camber bolt that need adjusting,I didn’t have a clue what it was until I saw your video with excellent explanation.Thank you.
Best video. Spc instructions doesn't specify if installing on the bottom it has to be facing the opposite direction compared to the top bolt on the WRX. Installed them both facing the same direction toward the engine. As soon as I put the wheels back on I knew something didn't look right! Your video saved the day! Thanks
Bless!
Thanks for dumbing this down and making it idiot proof and super simple to understand. I’d like to think I know a lot about cars, but I couldn’t understand how a different bolt adjusted camber, but now I learned about the shape of the camber bolt and makes sense to me now. Thanks man!
This guy is super smart!!!!! Explain really well.
On my experience the only time camber bolts move is when you bounce the car off the curb but that's actually a good thing because instead of a bench a-arm or Worse the strut it strips out that $2 Bolt
Super informative video, thank you for not throwing in any useless bs and getting straight to the point
Thank you so much for making this video! I've got a lifted Forester that understeers like crazy because the front camber is +1 degree. Fixing that camber is going to help so much. Thanks big time!
bro is saving life’s out here so casually. you’re a goat! thanks for all the tips!
Thank you Ahaav. Ditto on everything Tylerbailey mentioned in his comments. I had to redo the installation but finally I got it right...thanks to you. 10 stars for your great video on this matter Ahaav !
This the best camber bolt video I have found. Thank you!
Thank you brother!
Even though it's a 3 yr video it really helps out. What if I want 0 camber I want it neutral
We do appreciate you for taking your car apart for us
The best video and explanation about camber alignment I have seen. Very clear, Thanks a lot. Now I have enough info to adjust my car.
Thank you! After viewing many vids took viewing yours to realize there might be some adjustment on my oem bolts.
I do diy on my crv shock mounting and i just feel ok with it until my wife complains about steering is pulling to the right. I'm a new own a thirdhand crv and a new driver and a newly mechanic wannabe. Then i realize a big mistake i have after watching your video, never have an idea it was a camber volt. I struggle just to fit those in a whole 😂. I just hope to use it again if volt is ok or buying a new one if not. Your video really is a help, thank you sir! Always hoping whatever trouble my car had, can be fixed by using your videos as my guide, i ow you a lot!
Thank you and good luck! 🙏
@@Alexhaav likewise sir!
Great detailed explanation, especially on the washer orientation on aftermarket bolts.
Excellent video. Thank you so very much for taking the time to explain the process. VERY helpful!
How come all other vids show that the outer tab should be facing opposite the lobe.
i went to put these on and realized my oem essentric bolts had been replaced with regular bolts, do you think using 4x aftermarket camber bolts will work out because i cant find the oem eccentric bolts for 92 240sx anywhere online
The goat ⚡️
Best explanation so far 👌
Thank you
love this vid, very informative😎
Thank you so much for this great and informative video
Great video
Great vid! So I raised 2 inch my 4x4 and now I need to but these bolts. The original size is 14mm bolt, and my question is if I should buy 14mm camber bolts or can I go with 12mm caber bolts instead? thanks!
I'm actually not sure how they measure and label these aftermarket ones. Gonna see if I can find anything. Because the lobe essentially stays the same diameter but the actual bolt portion has to go down in diameter from the original to give it that extra wiggle room.
Looks like if the original bolt was a camber bolt already, you'd go down in diameter for the new bolt. If the bolt was not a camber bolt, diameter will stay the same.
@@Alexhaav Thanks a lot for the info, so I would go for 14mm
But what about the Kimber bolts?
Great video and loved how easy was to understand unlike all the others I’ve seen about camber bolts. Quick question. Is it okay to run after market camber bolts in a new hole in the top of the sleeve like you did for more camber ?
You could but if you’re making a new hole, you might as well continue running the same beefier oem bolt that’s supposed to go in the knuckle hole to begin with.
❓ Great explanation. I'm thinking of performing ^this operation on a 2008 Hyundai Elantra, while also replacing the rear wheel hubs/bearings. I've never done either of these things, but I'm mechanically inclined. The hubs are the primary repair, and I hadn't considered a need for a rear camber adjustment until I noticed that the top of both wheels/tires are angled inward, while the bottom of the tires are angled outward(negative camber, I believe).
I've read that the factory specs call for -1.5° for rear wheel camber. My main question is, can the rear wheel hub replacement and camber bolt installation be somewhat easily accomplished by a "mechanically inclined noob"? Can ^these camber adjustment bolts be used on a 2008 Hyundai Elantra? Thanks
It looks like the front on the Elantra is MacPherson so the camber bolts should work. Rear hub replacement shouldn’t be too hard either just send it.
I have a Mazda 3 which already has too much negative camber -2.7. I am trying to get it to under -1. Since Mazda 3 has no camber adjustment, I a try to align the car with this method. Can I use these bolts to reduce the negative camber?
Absolutely
So my car is lower on lowering spring but I don’t want camber wear on my tire. Would this bolts help with that? Or what do I need to buy to avoid camber wear on my front tires ??
Had an alignment done months ago and i saw the guy take these bolts and was grinding them
.i wasnt sure why🤔
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Thank you for the help!
good explanation
I have camber bolts as my top bolts but is it possible to use camber bolts on BOTH top and bottom bolt holes? To get more negative camber ? Or does it not do anything?
Edit : I just saw the ending, thank you!
I'm glad it answered your question!
My bad but the specific video you're showing that is the driver side so if the bottom is faced out in the upper is faced in would you reverse that process on the passenger side meaning the are on the bottom would be faced the other way and the bolt on the top would be faced inward or is it the same set up I figure lower pointing out would be lower pointing out on the passenger side please reply I have a 2006 Ford f150 I think I only need to do one bolt on this year on this year Alexis controlled by the two bolts on the upper arm thank you
If you’re referring to maximum camber, it will always be top facing in and bottom facing out. For trucks, they usually use double wishbone suspension in the front, so these concepts will not work unless you have a MacPherson system.
Great video! Thank you for the great detail!!!
can you do a video on how to remove them? I got a frs and the person before had camber bolts on and i can’t understand to go take them off. I’ve tried everything.
They can be very finicky to get out. I usually support the bottom of the knuckle with a jack and wiggle it around and twist it until it finds its way out. I have seen people install them wrong as well where they ruin/distort the hole in the bottom mount to the point where I’ve had to cut them out before. They are relatively cheap, so cutting may be best.
I lowered my car pretty low. Was wondering if I wanted more positive camber could I do both bolts but just opposite?
Indeed!
deeply satisfying explanation!! I am do mine and fully appreciate this vid so put me down for beer #2 (see below)
Haha thank you! 🍻
So my Ford explorer has oem camber bolts? My alignment guy is telling me he can't adjust the camber enough to get it perfect.. an spc camber bolts gives more camber adjustment than the oem?
Yes slightly more since they have that smaller diameter
Quick question chief.
What if you have camber setting coilovers..do you still need to change those camber bolts or you can just continue using them without a problem
What do you mean by that? Like camber settings from the top hat or the lower mount?
i know this is a old vid but if you do see this so id put my camber bolts on the top hole and maxed it out and my axles started binding however if i put them in the bottom hole do you believe it wouldnt bind if i maxed it out from the bottom hole. i have a lancer and they dont make aftermarket lca's for the fronts
It’s possible but it sounds like your axles are already pretty susceptible to bind even with small amounts of camber. Rip
I thought the tab was supposed to point in the opposite direction of the arrow or triangle???
Negative. It points towards the tab signifying that the tooth is on the opposite side, further locking the lobe towards the direction of the arrow.
@@Alexhaav Oooh okay cool thanks 😎
Where do I get this screw? My car is the wheel deflector to the inside from the top
Amazon, autoparts store, etc. just make sure you get the proper diameter as it is vehicle-specific.
My own car 𝗲46 𝗯𝗺𝘄
@@ibrahimreslan3244 I’m not sure if that car even uses a 2 bolt macpherson system up front.
Thanks a lot for the great video.
can you run OEM or aftermarket OEM style camber bolts in BOTH knuckle holes on both sides of the car ??? ... just want to know because I'm all about having that extra strength myself
Yes you can. The oem bolts will obviously be stronger, but with regular street driving, the aftermarket bolts hold up fine. To ensure reliability, torque the aftermarket bolts to the specified spec based on their diameter.
Looking to adjust my fitment as currently I'm cutting tire. My car doesn't support have camber adjustment stock, can I still run an aftermarket cam bolt?
Assuming it is a Macpherson style suspension system, yes you can!
My car has no camber adjustment on the struts but I’m trying to get a degree or 2 positive camber what should I do ? Pinch bolts or slot my knuckles ?
-Sincerely my tires.
Try the smaller camber bolt variants but have the ellipse oriented to that it pushes the knuckle positive as opposed to negative.
Hey is this the reason why it fill like my tires is going to pop off while turning..I just put new struts on and cv axle on..
Not necessarily. There are many thing to check. I’d probably start with alignment.
@@Alexhaav thanks buddy for the reply I appreciate it 👍🏽
Don't ask your camber what it can do for you. Ask what you can do for your camber.
What am afraid of this bolts would snap
Only if overtorqued.
So what is the proper torque spec for these camber bolts?
It’s usually annotated on the packaging. I can’t recall strictly from memory. I think I used to do 75ftlb for the smaller ones on my Subaru and 100ftlbs for the Toyota larger ones.
Where can I buy the camber bolts?
I usually get mine from Amazon. You’ll need to make sure you verify which size is meant for your car. Auto parts stores also usually have them.
Great video thank you
how much camber do you think these two bolts would net? maybe an extra 1-2°?
With 2 probably another 3 or 4.
Question for ya (enjoyed the video) I have a project car that vibrates when driven 60mph+. It also has inner tire wear and based on all the research and advice I received, It looks like it might be the camber. I went to get it aligned one time, and the shaking didn't stop, and it's also eating up the inside of a tire that I just got 1 month ago. Everything else looks normal (boots, control arm, shocks) 05' Nissan Altima. Should I continue to change to aftermarket camber bolts?
You could, but you should probably assess what's causing the shaking/vibration first lol. Try running hub centric rings if you aren't already. Check ball joints and horizontal runout of the rotating components. An unbalanced tire or tire with improper wear could also cause it. Good luck with finding out what it is! Fixing it would be my first priority.
@@Alexhaav Thank you!
@Aaron Chacon ... does the steering wheel shake at all ???
Did you cut that hole on your bc coils? for more negative camber...
Yes I have a completely separate video for that
Has anyone Done this on a 2007 Honda Accord
When installing camber bolts, will it change the toe at all ?
Yes. All adjustments will accept alignment geometry in one way or another. Whether it toes in or out will be based on your tie rod location.
would a 16mm on the top and 14mm on the bottom give me a lot of negative camber? or would it be safer to run 2 16mms?
It could but it would be safer to run 2 16’s
@@Alexhaav what brand would you recommend getting?
@@RetroAndPalm SPC or something along those lines.
Can you just use a smaller regular bolt or is that dangerous?
You can for a few degrees. However, the smaller the bolt goes, the weaker and more prone to slipping it becomes.
Appreciate you bro. I lowered my car today and didn't even realized the orientation of my camber bolts. So now, driver side is poking and I have work for the next 2 days. Will be I be alright? I drive 120 miles on a work day.
Did you get the car professionally aligned with the bolts in that specific orientation? If so, you'll be alright. If not, you should get an alignment asap and fix the camber and toe. Remember bad toe will kill tires the fastest.
@@Alexhaav yes I did get it professionally done. But today decided to lower more but then messed it up...
@@Alexhaav what would be my toe? I want to run -5 front cause I'm -7 in the rear
@@simplyblazeegaming toe is the side to side orientation of the wheel. The settings basically make sure the wheels are pointed in a straight direction in relation to the car. I have a few alignment videos that may explain it better.
@@simplyblazeegaming but the biggest thing is that camber adjustments will also affect toe settings, so the toe has to be adjusted subsequently to compensate for the changes.
question for you, can you run a camber bolt on a slotted strut.
Yes, but at that point, why not just slot it a little further? The larger the bolt, the less chance it has of slipping.
@@Alexhaav Fair point. Thanks!
Thank u soon much for this vid.. 💯💯🇹🇹
Mine is 16mm is it the same as you 97 ftlb?
Should be. However, always verify on the packaging and manufacturer notes!
One question. I don't know if you'll see this. Do the same bolts work for the rear?
If it is a macpherson rear, yes.
Hey man, I ran into trouble getting these bolts out to put in my new coilovers. Any ideas to geth them out with cutting them with a grinder?
Lots of patience and finesse. I've also seen some people impact them on and smash the tooth into the metal, completely warping the hole. If that happens, you have to cut it. Other than, rocking the knuckle back and forth, supporting it with a jack underneath, and trying different rotation orientations of the bolt until you find the sweet spot.
@@Alexhaav what exactly is the sweet spot? Where it’s really loose or where it’s really tense? Should I just keep trying and hammer it out with a rubber mallet?
@@mrmikko1819 you can try. It could be tense or loose depending on the situation. The lobe just needs to agree with how the holes are lined up.
@@Alexhaav thanks man, I’ll try to be a bit more patient. I already tried to use a normal hammer so I just hope the love isn’t destroyed or damaged. Wish me luck my man, and thanks for the quick response!
@@mrmikko1819 good luck fam!
How much camber can you get with maxed out bc top hats and a aftermarket lower camber bolt? I’m trying to get -6 whats your opinion? 2010 wrx btw
I have never personally tried this combo, but I feel it would give you around -5 or so. I think you would need a combo of 2 bolts per side to get -6 but that's just a guess. Only one way to find out! Remember the ride height will also affect the camber so the lower it is, the more natural camber there is.
@@Alexhaav thanks for the advice. Do Broadway static top hats have more - camber adjustment? I wasted so much money switching from regular bcs to the extreme lows to only get maybe 3/4” lower when I could’ve gotten shorter springs and lcas for the same price :/.
@@bentonyt5054 the regular top hats will have the same adjustment but Broadway also offers extended ones that do a lot more camber
@@Alexhaav just ordered them. Thanks for the help I appreciate it.
Hey man would running these in the bottom help save my cv drive axle ?? Because the angle of the lca is so far up the axle is compressed with full preload only at -3 I've slotted my lower mount upper hole and running a camber bolt aswell aswell as slotted my top camber plates more. I was thinking slot the top hole more and run the camber bolt in the bottom and stock bolt in the top?
Stock lower control arms maybe extend those abit ??
@@jaker3246 I would definitely extend the LCA. That is going to be your best option as the bolts won’t do much for alleviating bind.
@@Alexhaav Alright I'll do that how many degrees does 1" bring ?
Right now the axles dont click or bind that I can tell but the driver side blows out after a 6 months of driving
@@jaker3246 every car is different. Typically 20-40mm is the magic number. It’s more for the axle than it is for the camber number.
you got them at auto zone right?
You can get them many places, Autozone included sometimes!
How much degrees is the maximum?
It will depend on ride height and other variables, but it is usually as advertised as 1.75° for one, so 2 together can warrant somewhere around 3 to 3.5°
@@Alexhaav you think i can get decent stance with lowering springs and camber bolts on a 2009 2.5i?
@@ao8271 decent stance is subjective but lowering springs don't usually give that much drop at all. Would want coilovers for that.
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Great video but don’t act like we didn’t see 2:16
Lmao!!!!
Kimber bolts??? WTF?
Should have been a teacher. Most people that make videos are always forgetting things and going back or hopping around when they remember and it really screws their video/ message. It’s a waste of time.