Episode 138: Let’s Talk About the Shape of the Earth: An Interview with Dr. Danny Faulkner and an...
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2024
- In a comprehensive episode of Didache, Justin Peters delves into the contentious debate surrounding the Flat Earth theory. He brings in Dr. Danny Faulkner, a physicist with Answers in Genesis and author of “Falling Flat,” to counter common Flat Earth arguments. They address various claims, including the visibility of distant objects, the Antarctic Treaty, and supposed biblical support for a flat Earth, providing scientific and biblical rebuttals.
The episode also includes interviews with Colonel Jeff Williams, a Christian astronaut, and Dr. Jason Lisle, adding credibility to their refutations with firsthand space experience and astrophysical insights. Peters and Faulkner aim to reach those swayed by Flat Earth rhetoric, offering a reasoned discussion emphasizing scientific evidence’s consistency with a spherical Earth and the misinterpretation of Scripture by Flat Earth proponents.
Links
• Dr. Faulkner’s book Falling Flat (answersingenesis.org/store/pr...)
• Article on Flat Earth and Firmament (answersingenesis.org/astronom...)
• Answers in Genesis (answersingenesis.org)
• Dr. Jason Lisle and Biblical Science Institute (biblicalscienceinstitute.com)
Timestamps
• 00:00 - 09:02 Introduction
• 09:02 - 10:03 Interview with Dr. Faulkner begins
• 10:03 - 11:10 Who is Dr. Danny Faulkner?
• 11:10 - 12:01 What is our theology?
• 12:01 - 12:59 Are we Free Masons?
• 12:59 - 17:00 Why did you write Falling Flat?
• 17:00 - 20:47 Has Flat Earth been the majority view throughout Christian history?
• 20:47 - 25:45 What about the Antarctic Treaty?
• 25:45 - 28:03 Who are some of the prominent FErs you have met?
• 28:03 - 36:09 What about long-distance photography?
• 36:09 - 42:12 Why doesn’t the atmosphere rush into the vacuum of space?
• 42:12 - 46:29 How did the astronauts make it through the Van Allen belts? 4
• 6:29 - 49:58 Did some Apollo astronauts become Christians?
• 49:58 - 53:56 Is the moon’s shadow during an eclipse too small?
• 53:56 - 01:02:13 Does the moon produce cold light?
• 01:02:13 - 01:06:41 Shouldn’t airplanes have to dip their nose for the curvature?
• 01:06:41 - 01:09:42 How high must one be to see curvature?
• 01:09:42 - 01:13:40 Isn’t the ISS too small to be seen if it is really that high?
• 01:13:40 - 01:17:17 Does NASA in Hebrew mean “to deceive”?
• 01:17:17 - 01:20:31 Don’t you have a Masonic symbol right there over your shoulder?
• 01:20:31 - 01:22:53 Has NASA admitted we don’t have the technology to go to the moon?
• 01:22:53 - 01:27:19 What is the ISS really?
• 01:27:19 - 01:31:53 How does the FE model account for seasons?
• 01:31:53 - 01:36:03 How does the FE model account for meteors?
• 01:36:03 - 01:39:24 What about the shadow of Mt. Rainer on the bottom of clouds?
• 01:39:24 - 01:43:14 What about different star constellations in different hemispheres?
• 01:43:14 - 01:45:32 What about star trails?
• 01:45:32 - 01:48:54 Can the FE model account for night and day?
• 01:48:54 - 01:54:39 Can the FE model account for anything?
• 01:54:39 - 01:56:52 How can we trust science when it tells us we came from apes?
• 01:56:52 - 02:07:55 Does the Bible teach FE?
• 02:07:55 - 02:14:47 Why is this such an important issue?
• 02:14:47 - 02:15:48 What is the firmament?
• 02:15:48 - 02:17:43 What is Space X?
• 02:17:43 - 03:15:30 Interview with ISS Astronaut Col. Jeff Williams
• 03:15:30 - 04:07:25 Interview with Dr. Jason Lisle
• 04:07:25 - end Wouldn’t God make us the center of creation?
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Who do you trust, God or man? Ill trust God's word.. biblical cosmology is truth
I love your teaching brother Justin
Yes, I agree 💯% Justin is an exception Bible teacher. BUT he needs to stay FAR away from this topic! Until his eyes have been opened - he is supporting a totally unsubstantiated position that the earth is remotely globe shaped.
Through your preaching I have come back to faith in Jesus Christ! Thank you so much!😊
Won't be able to watch this in one sitting, but giving it a like
If you are a Flat Earther, then likewise by your admission here you MUST also believe that the Holy Spirit is an egg laying dove...
Thank you brother Peters! God bless you!
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Being on the road and pressing 2x the speed of play works wonders for taking in knowledge. Just about finished with the video. Excellent presentation, God Bless.
Thank you for this episode. It's good to hear some intelligent talk on this debate on Flat Earth.
I definitely disagree with Justin on this. However, I do not see this as a Salvation issue. I am confused, though, in spite of all of the deceat in this current time, why are we doing 4 hour videos on this particular subject. The "joking" about free masonry is a little wild also. Very bizarre!
You either believe what the Bible says about creation or you believe the Evolutionist scientists. It's one or the other, God or man.
or you believe reality and the easily discernible spherical shape of the earth.
So if an "evolutionary scientist" tells you the sky is blue, what color does the say it is? I ask this as a very long term 6 day creationist/literalist.
Oh yeh, I've only gotten a few minutes into the video and when Justin mentions the good Doctor.... I soon recall him, and his position: which is total folly! I don't need to watch any further because this Dr HAS TO STICK TRUE AND FAST to his position (even if its incorrect) ESPECIALLY if he's a Dr and has written a book about it! How could he possibly go back on it 😂
I'm amazed at the things people will get wrapped around the axle about.
Exactly why do you even care what people think about the Earth
@@shawnsims3663 That's the big "tell". Is it fear of losing esteem? They have nothing better to do? Or as Danny Faulkner has expressed in Falling Flat, fear of people turning from Christianity? (which, ironically, is what old earth creationists think about young-earth creationists like Faulkner) The time, attention, and emotion being poured into this topic exposes a lack of confidence, IMHO.
@Justin Peters Ministries Im a subscriber of yours Justin, and in general I agree with you about most scriptural teachings. You're very competent. Im also a FE. We covered both of your flat earth videos on Flatzoids Perspectives channel. We were fair. Both Flatzoid and I voiced our appreciation of you. We would love it if you would come and talk to us. WE WOULD talk to you with respect.. However and with the upmost respect Danny Faulkner isnt the best person to be talking to about this topic.. Hes with you, he believes a globe, so you just confirm each others bias. Like i said i appreciate your ministry and scripturally youre usually sound. Thats why i was so surprised and disappointed when talking about creation/Flat Earth you didnt go to Genesis, where the meat of creation is. Danny should have also. I mean he is part of answers in genesis. Both of you were definitely lacking in scriptural evidence for your claims. Please come to Flatzoids Perspective channel to talk to us. God bless you brother.
They couldn’t cover Genesis because they would have to explain how light, the earth, night and day, fruit trees, grass, and herbs all existed before the sun and moon were even created.
It would expose their shillery.
Dear subscriber ..There is none more blind then he who refuses to see .. I can't even listen to Justin anymore .. not so much for what he says (every one is entitled to his opinion) rather by his actions in seeking other men of like mind for support ... in other words putting your faith in man .. Jeremiah 17:5 Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord.
He couldn’t address genesis because he would have to address the earth and trees being here before the sun.
I hope he accepts your invitation.
@@fepatriot It would be easier for a camel to through the eye of a needle.
Justin's tone = "please help me Dr 'know-it-all' I've dug myself a terrible hole! I desperately need to save face! Please Dr you're the EXPERT right, surely you can manage to bamboozle and blind these commentators with 'science', surely" 😢
You need medication
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And these people call themselves Christians? Yet no fruits of the spirit show through. All slander, all hate. 😮💨
@@alext.8456 Yes, he does. Insanity.
If you believe the recent Japanese and Indian “moonlandings.” God help you.
So you think that God made other planets? Even though He says the Earth is the apple of his eye.
God says Jerusalem is the apple of His eye, not the earth
GOD CREATED EVERYTHING, INCLUDING OUR ROUND EARTH, as well as ALL the other ROUND planets. And God loves earth, because the earth is WHERE HE CREATED US!
And Jerusalem is GODS CITY. It will be where JESUS will rule the World during the Millenium, AND In the New Heaven and the New Earth.
Please, check your quotes BEFORE hitting the "Reply" button. It might temper things you say...
Justin, how much do you LOVE the Truth? Enough to be meek...and humble...and learn? Grasping the magnitude of deception(s) has been shocking to some degree for most people. Did you believe "safe and effective"? Seek...and you will find. 🙏🕯
If you want to learn about flat earth, talk to a flat earther stop talking to deceivers..talk to David Weiss Mr Justin..set up a meeting and learn what flat earth is all about
Very little decrement in this one. Indoctrination is real.
I wish I understood what you are trying to say here. I know what decrement means, just can't how it applies in your comment, nor how you think we are being indoctrinated.
@@runwillrobinson I think he meant discernment. SMH
The devil never takes a day off,...does he Peters.
Why, do you know the devil well?
Justin, youre overmodulating on your audio.
So when are you going to teach on the firmament.
Job 38
1Chronicles 16;30
When did YAHUAH, YAHUSHA start spinning this world. It doesn't read that anywhere.
You want to put these people over the word of YAHUAH. Why do you want to do that ? Aren't you Supposed to prove things through scripture?
Daniel 12.3 proves the firmament is still there. The sun and the moon are lights. Don't you understand that.
Exactly who cares what these idiots think about the world
So Justin.
Just a month or so ago you made a video on Alistair Beggs tripling down on his stance with regards to the transgender marriage topic..
But you are now doing the exact same thing with your Flat Earth videos but your are showing your ignorance & bias even more by refusing to get a Flat Earth expert to join your hours long video.
You are being a hypocrite, Justin & it pains me to say this as I've been a loyal follower of your teachings for years.
It is truly sad to see you bring so wilfully ignorant with regards to this topic & this has now caused me to wonder if you have been so ignorant about the other topics you have covered over the years.
This is turning out to be a sad year for the Evangelicals...
Not only is he incongruent in his declaration of faith and what he says he believes, by his stated support for nasa and the heliocentric myth, he's also promoting the big bang theory, and everything that goes along with it including the woke agenda that nasa is following and promoting when it comes to the lgbq agenda. At the very least, Justin has muddied the waters of biblical truths with his globetard stance.
Justin is CORRECT, YOU are WRONG! The EARTH is OBVIOUSLY ROUND, and anyone with COMMON SENSE can SEE IT IS! There are MANY signs that PROVE it IS ROUND, and the BIBLE also says it is a CIRCLE (Isaiah 40:22), and of course things that are round CAN LOOK flat from one sided view of it.
@kitt7459 I can understand your defense of Justin and don't like seeing hi. Being thrown under the bus. But, as a preacher of the bible, he has thrown himself under the bus with the anti biblical false globe claims he has made. Then to top that off, Justin breaks bread with people like Jason Lyle, Jeff Williams and Danny Falkner who are all known liars, deceivers and likely atheists but clearly, masons or friends with them.
Now, would you like to know we know the earth is flat which proves Justin's friends are liars?
@@kitt7459A circle is not a globe because a circle is flat, i.e 2 dimensional and a globe is spherical, i.e 3 dimensional. That is basic geometry. Have you not considered why he did not use scripure to back up his position? Obviously because is very clear from scripture that the earth is not a globe spinning through space around the sun. His video ridiculing flat earth was ludicrous and clearly intended to discredit and mock people who see beyond the globe deception. Why does he feel the need to do that? Why does he care what people believe regarding the shape of the earth? I cannot be sure whether Justin Peters is deceived or a deceiver, but eitherway he clearly does not fully believe the Word of God.
@kitt7459 Justin Peters is not correct on this issue. The earth may or may not be round, but that does not mean it is a globe. Scripture refers to the circle of the earth, but a circle is flat (2 dimensional), whilst a globe is spherical (3 dimensional) so 'circle of the earth' does not necessarily point to the earth being a globe. Have you not considered why he omitted to use Scripture to back up his position? Obviously because it is clear from Scripture that the earth is not a globe spinning through space around the sun. His video debunking FE was ludicrous and gives the impression that Justin has no understanding of basic concepts such as perspective. The most comical part was his nonsensical opinion regarding the sun illuminating the clouds. I'm not sure what that was meant to prove because under the globe earth theory the sun is millions of miles away and is therefore always a substantial distance above and beyond the clouds, but it was at least amusing I auppose. Less amusing however was the intention behind the video, which I suspect was to mock and discredit people who see through the globe deception. One wonders why an apparent man of God feels the need to do that. I do not know if Justin Peters is a deceiver or just deceived, but either way he clearly does not believe in the inerrancy of Scripture as he claims.
How did light, fruit trees, the earth, grass, and herbs exist before the sun and the moon were created?
PS-“the sun”, not a sun…
Kingdom in context destroyed your presentation.
Oh Justin! You are still deluded or deceived, or a deceiver yourself. How can a Bible teaching man teach other aspects of God's creation with such accuracy but be SO totally wrong about this one? Hmmmm.... Deceiver maybe?
I don't think he's a deceiver. I think he's just really invested in the earth being a globe for some reason. People get attached to these ideas for their entire lives and don't want to examine any real evidence or claims to the contrary.
@@btdubs333. The BIBLE says the Earth is round. JUSTIN IS CORRECT. ISAIAH 40:22
And you flat earthers are ATTACHED to YOUR false view of a flat earth. What is YOUR evidence of it being FLAT? There is NONE!
And NO, Justin Peters DOES NOT DECEIVE!
@@btdubs333 And it IS a Globe, a Sphere, ROUND!
@@kitt7459 I think if you examine the evidence to the contrary , you will find that humanity has been deceived on the subject of "planets" and what they really are.
Justin why are you trying to convince people of this who cares what these idiots think
Just so you understand, the original "proof" for round ball earth was ships disappearing over the horizon. The idea was that *obviously* the water was slightly curved due to the earth's huge ball shape. Now we have cameras that can zoom back in on the ship no matter how far it gets. Which disproves the rounding nature of even the water (over the appropriate distance) around a "globe earth". Just so you know.
We can see entire cities from distances so far that buildings shouldn't be visible and yet we can see them without issue. Especially using a camera zoom. If it was "past the curve", it would be IMPOSSIBLE to zoom in and see these particular cities or buildings. Or boats.
These cannot be disproven by ANY random information claiming a ball earth.
There is even a news segment where they had to try to convince the public that the faraway city was a mirage. Since there is absolutely NO WAY that city should be visible "over the curve" from such a great distance. A film crew then went to the far side of the lake, zoomed in on the city, and drove a boat ALL THE WAY TO THE CITY (keeping the city in frame and in focus the whole time), thus proving it was not a mirage!
Have you not ever seen pictures from the Spacecraft
What spacecraft? Admittedly, there are zero photographs of the entire earth from space. They are CGI. The creators of these images have admitted this. They concoct and amalgamate what they think it should look like. They add fake cloud layers, etc... So "images" supposedly taken from spacecraft are highly dubious. The "space craft" can't even get far enough away to take these supposed photographs.@@shawnsims3663
Notice, you or anyone else can't refute what I said in my first comment. And that's the point.
Calling other fellow believers idiots in itself is absolutely ridiculous.
@@btdubs333I take it you're not watching this video? Just about everything you explained in your comment was addressed. I watched it on twice the speed, about 3/4 finished with it now.