Joe sounds uneducated talking about MJ. If MJ didn’t rebel against MTV, Joe wouldn’t have grown up seeing the black artist music videos on MTV. Michael is the whole reason they did that. Michael rebelled against Pepsi and said he would give them 3 seconds in a commercial and wants control of his likeness and they gave it to him. Somehow he ends up with a burn accident from the Pepsi commercial shoot… He was 50% of Sony and refused to give it back and they plotted his death after that. He spoke out against Tommy Mattola at a time nobody else was doing that. Joe’s bias is crazy
Didn’t Joe see a MJ doc just a couple episodes ago, he said he was educated by the doc because he didn’t know his plight in the music game so yes he was uneducated.
As a Prince fan, the misconception of us is that we don't acknowledge Michael's greatness, as well. They are just DIFFERENT though. I love them both. Mike is for the heart, but Prince is for the soul. 💜
This is so wild, what a mad coincidence. I literally just watched an episode of Abbott Elementary and Vince Staples was on it, and now I get a notification about him being on the podcast😭
Comparing Michael and Prince is like comparing Air and Water, especially without mentioning the Godfather of Soul. That being said, this is one of the best debates I've seen on this channel. Felt like I was in a barbershop! Dope!
@@288deuce6 yeah people say millennial just as a catch all for "younger people". He's a younger millennial but he is 30yrs old, he's experienced a good chunk of life.
@@ANTIStraussian born in 97 grew up in Lakeview apartments in Fort valley far from sheltered just wiser bruh we had to grow up fast I got older sheltered cousin who still plan for the future with kids
We are the world says different. There are some things Mike did to appease the label and his industry connections that Prince as an artist would have never done and I think that's the argument Joe is having as to which one is the greater artist.
Prince beat Mozart, he mastered over 14 instruments by age 17, he could dance, sing any note, rap, he wrote, arranged, performed ALL his music, including wrote hits for other artists, he has covered almost every genre, Metal, Punk rock, hip hop, pop, r&b, soul, jazz, blues, country, ambience, classical, techno, house, instrumental. The Multi-Genre God. He could play anything, and your favorite artists have been deeply influenced by him. Corey Taylor, Whitney Houston, Steve Vai, Elton John, Stevie Wonder, Lil uzi vert, H.E.R. , Paul Mccartney, all worship Prince to just name a few. Prince recorded his first 2 albums at 16 all by himself, all instruments, lyrics, arrangement, composition & vocals were all by him. He was such a prodigy, that music executives wanted proof, they would fly across country just to see if he could really play all instruments, because it was so unheard of. Prince has over 50 official released albums and when he passed, they found over 10 thousand unreleased Prince music in his vault. He then came into the business and was the FIRST to fight for artists rights, and he WON. He would write "slave" on his cheek and go to meetings protesting against the industry. Prince was also the first artist to sell his music on the internet. You are talking about the most talented artist we will ever see.
Michael has a better catalog and is the best performer of all time. His music was more timeless and a lot of it stood the test of time. Could come out today and still sound fresh. Prince was great, but nobody could be Mike.
You don’t know Prince look at album review Prince drop 2 masterpieces in the 80”s Mike drop the biggest album it’s comparing a dragon and a Star Wars spaceship totally different both deadly.
Wait Vince Staples is 30 years old….I would never have the MJ/Prince conversation with him….if you wasn’t sitting in front of the TV with your whole entire family waiting for the Billie Jean premier don’t talk to me
What kept me out of prison was 1) My Mom told me : IF YOU EVER GET LOCK UP ... IMA LET YOU SIT THERE AND THINK ABOUT IT. 2) Was older dudes telling me and my friends HORROR STORIES OF DUDES GETTIN GANG RAPED ... YO, THAT ALONE STUCK IN MY HEAD. I been cuffed and taken in twice, but let go when they found out they had the wrong person.
Mike spoke out against the industry owners before Kanye. He got his song, “They don’t care about us” censored. Then they discredited his name and whacked him. RIP Michael.
Wait. The Wiz is trash? Quincy jones production. Heavy hitter Artist. It is the best it shows our culture. These so called woke people take it out of proportion. The Wiz was the Black Interpretation of us. For us to see us in our own vibe and light. Smh. Wow
People in the comments trying to bring down MJ to uplift Prince, bro go listen to his music then. Yall brag about him playing instruments but you don’t support the music or his legacy, Michale is more popular than ever and generations are keeping his legacy alive so who really won?
Flip pulled out a good point. Where to point blame when a company screws you and Joe has a tendency to go back and forth - sometimes crying about stolen royalties (DeLaSoul) and other times saying it was his fault. Just stand in that both things could be true. They screwed you AND you needed to get your own representation that wasn’t associated with the industry or your label.
Vince and Joe is always a good time. Joe probably looks at Vince like a younger version of himself. By the way Mike alway been better than prince Mike was literally the biggest thing on the planet with the biggest songs and moments in musical history. Never been close but I respect Prince heavily
At 1:21:12 is evidence of why the Flipp dynamic on this pod is priceless 💵💵 his socially awkward no caring ass is gold! 🫡🔥😂💯 love it!! He takes the conversation outside every time 👏🏾👏🏾
Calling Beyoncé lazy is crazy considering she was dancing on a broken knee. She was still recovering during her tour. But the last couple shows she went the hardest she could and you’ll see that in the Renaissance film too.
Emanny be talking to talk. Renaissance tour was amazing. Like hands down, its great. To call her lazy is wild as hell. She literally worked through knee surgery. 💀💀💀
When the brother is speaking on Gang members quitting, theres a few videos up on RUclips with dudes that quit. They had to be housed separately from general population and some had to get certain tattoos removed or tatted over or turn in their colors/vests (Bikers).And it's across the board: White,Black, Latin and Asian.
I love The Wiz, but I do agree with Vince in that it was cringy because of who produced it and maybe even directed it. There are great moments in it, However there are moments your like wth. But again you gotta think of the times as well, who had the money to get this moving.And thats why I think it is so up and down.
The MJ argument was horrible. Micheal Jackson was a superstar artist since the age of 5. Not only did he constantly have success in music, he stayed social relevant for years, even as a joke he’s apart of social conversation.
Anytime Vince is on its a classic
Every single time
facts 😂 JBP needs a Westcoast L.A. Based Pod w/ Vince and his people
Clicked so fast
No it ain't stop click baiting lol who tf is Vince staples😂
Clearly a new pod fan... sucks to be you sir.@cynthiareina1156
Daisy being tucked up under vince during that mj prince debate had me 💀
Was thinking the exact same thing lol she hopped right next to vince.
So cute lol
Fr lol shit was cute 😂😂
Vince when he said “he had a father, it’s not like he was Batman “ 💀💀💀😭😭😂😂😂😂
vince staples is a podcast gem
Nah just a gem gem. AND GEMini royalty
Id push ice out for Vince idk if joe can string that shit together
Vince should be a semi annual guest. Pay the man.
🤣 emanny having his own name tatted on him is fucking wild AF 🤣🤣
It speaks. VOLUMES
how??? that's dope
A lot of ppl in the world have their own name on them. That was like one of the few first tatts ppl got.
Seems conceited and weird @@Eddienumbers007
@@Eddienumbers007facts
Joe sounds uneducated talking about MJ. If MJ didn’t rebel against MTV, Joe wouldn’t have grown up seeing the black artist music videos on MTV. Michael is the whole reason they did that. Michael rebelled against Pepsi and said he would give them 3 seconds in a commercial and wants control of his likeness and they gave it to him. Somehow he ends up with a burn accident from the Pepsi commercial shoot… He was 50% of Sony and refused to give it back and they plotted his death after that. He spoke out against Tommy Mattola at a time nobody else was doing that. Joe’s bias is crazy
Didn’t Joe see a MJ doc just a couple episodes ago, he said he was educated by the doc because he didn’t know his plight in the music game so yes he was uneducated.
@@bythedutchmaster you are correct. I did go and watch that episode and he did in fact state what you said
@@bythedutchmasterthis ep is before that mj doc
💯💯💯💯
As a Prince fan, the misconception of us is that we don't acknowledge Michael's greatness, as well. They are just DIFFERENT though. I love them both. Mike is for the heart, but Prince is for the soul. 💜
I got a lot more respect for Emanny after hearing him defend Michael. Michael Jackson will forever be that guy.
But he was wrong about 90% of the information
no
This is so wild, what a mad coincidence. I literally just watched an episode of Abbott Elementary and Vince Staples was on it, and now I get a notification about him being on the podcast😭
Comparing Michael and Prince is like comparing Air and Water, especially without mentioning the Godfather of Soul.
That being said, this is one of the best debates I've seen on this channel. Felt like I was in a barbershop! Dope!
💯💯💯
Flip was the only one to laugh at Vince when he said “ My Afrikan ” lmao 😂
It's become a Cali thing
I love when Vince is on. He rep the millennials well
Joe, Parks, Ice, & Flip are millennials. Just say younger generation, cause y’all be using shit wrong. Millennials are 40 years old…..
@@288deuce6 yeah people say millennial just as a catch all for "younger people". He's a younger millennial but he is 30yrs old, he's experienced a good chunk of life.
Right I'm 26 born in 97 the last millennials were born in 96
@@kjay2721tbh the edges aren't that exact you could be a sheltered 96 kid who for all purposes is considered a Gen z
@@ANTIStraussian born in 97 grew up in Lakeview apartments in Fort valley far from sheltered just wiser bruh we had to grow up fast I got older sheltered cousin who still plan for the future with kids
Vince Staples is one of my favorite people!!!!! Protect that Brotha at all costs!!!!
Who is he?
@@tiffanyblack6911rapper
The greatest mind in entertainment
@@tiffanyblack6911a rapper, actor, screenwriter, great philosopher of our times.
Vince is always a win
Wait, Vince started the Mel/Viola narrative?! 😂😂😂😂😂
What a better CHristmas gift than to have a Vince Staples episode
That boy Vince Staples is a national treasure
Y'all love coming at the Midwest but Prince(Minneapolis, Minnesota) and MJ(Gary, Indiana)both from here ❤️💪🏾
Vince! Classic and I haven’t even started the episode yet. Happy Holiday to anyone reading this and to the JPB crew
I love a good Vince staples appearance
I was raised in a Michael Jackson house hold 🤷🏽♀️
Vince needs to come on the pod at least once a month fr
To say Mike wasn’t Mike till thriller is crazy lmao
Everybody leaving Joe alone on the mic at the end was dope🤣🤣🤣🤣🔥🔥🔥👍🏾
These pods are evergreen. I could watch 20 years from today and enjoy like it was fresh.
Coming to the end of the patreon drops 👏🏾 Thanks to the podders and Happy Holidays 🫶🏾
When does the extra shows end?
@@earlwilliamsjr2415 It ended on Christmas
Glad the thriller doc happened Joe perspective changed now since this dropped
I’m a simple man, I see Vince in the title, I watch and hit that like button
Joe starts yelling when he’s wrong lol
Ish too
Prince is in a league of his own. Period. .. and I love Mike but y'all gotta stop playing with Prince Rogers Nelson please, respectfully.💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
No you gotta stop overhyping him lol 😂
No one did, in the video they downplayed Mj
So stop downgrading Mj to hype up that purple man
Michael Jackson was notorious for not putting out songs if they weren't 🔥. MJ don't have no filler.
Exactly they buggin
Every song is fire?
@@Blank9458nah he got some mid shit but not that much lol
as a michael fan he does have some filler but it is very very ittle compared to other artists. He is quality over quantity
We are the world says different. There are some things Mike did to appease the label and his industry connections that Prince as an artist would have never done and I think that's the argument Joe is having as to which one is the greater artist.
Emannny really got his name tatted on his arm as Identification 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Emany is a nuts character
I saw that and thought it was nutty too 😂
Prince beat Mozart, he mastered over 14 instruments by age 17, he could dance, sing any note, rap, he wrote, arranged, performed ALL his music, including wrote hits for other artists, he has covered almost every genre, Metal, Punk rock, hip hop, pop, r&b, soul, jazz, blues, country, ambience, classical, techno, house, instrumental. The Multi-Genre God. He could play anything, and your favorite artists have been deeply influenced by him. Corey Taylor, Whitney Houston, Steve Vai, Elton John, Stevie Wonder, Lil uzi vert, H.E.R. , Paul Mccartney, all worship Prince to just name a few.
Prince recorded his first 2 albums at 16 all by himself, all instruments, lyrics, arrangement, composition & vocals were all by him. He was such a prodigy, that music executives wanted proof, they would fly across country just to see if he could really play all instruments, because it was so unheard of. Prince has over 50 official released albums and when he passed, they found over 10 thousand unreleased Prince music in his vault. He then came into the business and was the FIRST to fight for artists rights, and he WON. He would write "slave" on his cheek and go to meetings protesting against the industry. Prince was also the first artist to sell his music on the internet. You are talking about the most talented artist we will ever see.
Beautiful and well said tribute! Long live Prince 💜
And don't forget he was a Monster on the court!!!!
@@mr.robinson4664game....blouses
Drops mic!
And, his ass wasn’t out. It was fake. The real king of controversy
Michael has a better catalog and is the best performer of all time. His music was more timeless and a lot of it stood the test of time. Could come out today and still sound fresh. Prince was great, but nobody could be Mike.
You don’t know Prince look at album review Prince drop 2 masterpieces in the 80”s Mike drop the biggest album it’s comparing a dragon and a Star Wars spaceship totally different both deadly.
MICHAEL IS, WAS AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE KING!!!!!!!!!
I can listen to Vince all day. “We got a surfing community….. “ lol.
These people keeping me company while wrapping gifts at 0500 in the AM😂😂😂
Wait Vince Staples is 30 years old….I would never have the MJ/Prince conversation with him….if you wasn’t sitting in front of the TV with your whole entire family waiting for the Billie Jean premier don’t talk to me
😂😂😂😂 stop. Love Michael but he don't compare to Prince.
It’s frustrating to see prince’s caterlogy on Spotify and his movies on RUclips. Everything he stood against, now readily available.
Yo I can’t keep up with these drops JOE! Thank you!!!!
Mike wasn't just the best performer, writer and singer but he was the best BUSINESSMAN. He owned half of SONY 's publishing before he died.
let them know!
I don't even know why they playing with Mike name like that.
Facts was almost a billionaire straight up
I see Vince with Joe, I know I’m bout to laugh 😂😂
I love me some Vince Staples for sure! Love when I see him on here ☺️
I like genuinely enjoy they give daisy the dog camera time 😂
She just wanna be down with the squad too
She is soo cute. I love how she keeps turning her head like she's following the argument
When Joe start losing arguments he start changing his or he start joking.
It’s exhausting to watch, so I know it must be exhausting to experience.
I never even knew that people actually thought the wiz was a bad movie 😂😂
The ears tucked in the fitted is crazy yo 😂
“ I love Michael too I don’t think he did it either “
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Vince a fool
This reminded me of one of his Breakfast Club interviews talking about Michael only touching white kids. "Maybe thats how he had his fist up." 😂😂😂
What kept me out of prison was 1) My Mom told me : IF YOU EVER GET LOCK UP ... IMA LET YOU SIT THERE AND THINK ABOUT IT. 2) Was older dudes telling me and my friends HORROR STORIES OF DUDES GETTIN GANG RAPED ... YO, THAT ALONE STUCK IN MY HEAD. I been cuffed and taken in twice, but let go when they found out they had the wrong person.
Vince grinning while they explainin dirty Mackin 😂 he lowkey like 🤔 shit I been dirty mackin this whole time 😂😂😂
Vince is gay
Mike spoke out against the industry owners before Kanye. He got his song, “They don’t care about us” censored. Then they discredited his name and whacked him. RIP Michael.
16:12 Ish got me crying 😭😂😂
Wait. The Wiz is trash? Quincy jones production. Heavy hitter Artist. It is the best it shows our culture. These so called woke people take it out of proportion. The Wiz was the Black Interpretation of us. For us to see us in our own vibe and light. Smh. Wow
Bro it’s not better than the original let’s be honest.
Wen Flip started rappin pump it up I lost it 😂😂😂😂
People in the comments trying to bring down MJ to uplift Prince, bro go listen to his music then. Yall brag about him playing instruments but you don’t support the music or his legacy, Michale is more popular than ever and generations are keeping his legacy alive so who really won?
The best thing about us MJ fans, we don't need to bring down prince to up lift MJ ❤
Flip pulled out a good point. Where to point blame when a company screws you and Joe has a tendency to go back and forth - sometimes crying about stolen royalties (DeLaSoul) and other times saying it was his fault. Just stand in that both things could be true. They screwed you AND you needed to get your own representation that wasn’t associated with the industry or your label.
Best episode of the year 🙏🏿🎉
Been waiting on a Vince appearance
Vince Staples is like my favorite character in life
Could rewatch a Vince ep any day. Happy holidays JBP family
This is a reuploaded patreon ep right?
@@benjaminmarsh8205yea seen this already on RUclips 😅
Ciara Is by far a better dancer then Beyoncé y’all gotta chill
The puppy just tryna sleep mayne😭😭
36:15 ish puttin the headset back on bein fed up af lmao
the joke is like a week ago I said "yall need to get Vince back up there"....been a rough week so to come back to this is like gold!
Michael… Jordan, Phelps, Tyson, Jackson sheesh lol
JBP fucking with my algorithms because I don’t see any Rory & Mal stuff anymore lol.
ish the only one keeping the east vs west coast beef alive
Vince and Joe is always a good time. Joe probably looks at Vince like a younger version of himself. By the way Mike alway been better than prince Mike was literally the biggest thing on the planet with the biggest songs and moments in musical history. Never been close but I respect Prince heavily
Prince is fire, but Prince esteem was mainly the USA. Mike is known in every hood across the world.
@@RedolentleekEXACTLY im only 12 min in, but that all homie had to say He would have won his argument. 😂
Only watching for Vince 😅 They got me 😂
On God 😂😂
A durag tucked in the back of a tank top might be THE sickest shit I ever heard of 1:02:58
Cuz u know it's done purposefully
At 1:21:12 is evidence of why the Flipp dynamic on this pod is priceless 💵💵
his socially awkward no caring ass is gold! 🫡🔥😂💯 love it!! He takes the conversation outside every time 👏🏾👏🏾
Calling Beyoncé lazy is crazy considering she was dancing on a broken knee. She was still recovering during her tour. But the last couple shows she went the hardest she could and you’ll see that in the Renaissance film too.
He stay talking foolishness every episode he’s on idek why they brought him on JBP he be blowing my shyt everytime
@@locogtheproducer6402 facts the pod be driving straight and as soon as Emanuel speaks he drives it off the Cliff🤣
Ish and Vince with the matching camos.. "He can't keep getting away with this"
Joe Face When Ish Walked Passed Him Was Priceless..😂😂😂😂
Michael is a goat. A pop artist that spoke up to power
I feel bad for Joes editing team & Parks when there’s 7 dudes yelling over each other at the same time for 85% of the episode 😂😂😂😂😂
I knew it was GOATED once I saw Vince was on again.
Vince needs his own pod
Great debate always a dope pod when Vince on here 💪🏾
AYO BIG DAWG - merry Christmas 🎄
Salute
Mj calling out that white supremacist matola is the most gangster u can be
Happy Holidays JBP family
“When ya ass is out ya fucking jeans” 😂😂😂
Lmao is that Daisy next to Vince !?
Lmao I just saw that! Second time watching this episode
Emanny be talking to talk. Renaissance tour was amazing. Like hands down, its great. To call her lazy is wild as hell. She literally worked through knee surgery. 💀💀💀
JBP should let Vince come by at least once a month or add him to the network 💪🏽
Maybe like once every 3-4 months
I prefer Vince over Emanny😂
When the brother is speaking on Gang members quitting, theres a few videos up on RUclips with dudes that quit. They had to be housed separately from general population and some had to get certain tattoos removed or tatted over or turn in their colors/vests (Bikers).And it's across the board: White,Black, Latin and Asian.
Idc what anyone says
Mike the greatest entertainer of all time
No one wrote sung n dance at that high of a level at the same Damn time !!!
I love The Wiz, but I do agree with Vince in that it was cringy because of who produced it and maybe even directed it. There are great moments in it, However there are moments your like wth. But again you gotta think of the times as well, who had the money to get this moving.And thats why I think it is so up and down.
Is that Mel’s dog all on Vince? A lil comfortable like they been in the same room many times 😂 new narrative right there
Her dog be on everybody 😂
The MJ argument was horrible. Micheal Jackson was a superstar artist since the age of 5. Not only did he constantly have success in music, he stayed social relevant for years, even as a joke he’s apart of social conversation.
lol his Beyoncé take didn’t age well. Beyoncé Renaissance was the tour of the year.
The Patron eps. Been clutch for the brokie audience
7k a month in Newark is INSANE lol, I’m crying at Ice though ‘nahh they redid tops’ 😭😭 - it’s def boujee asf in tops now lmaoo
Why is Emanny's ears tucked in hit hat ? 😭
My favorite guest
Joe giving opinions, emanny giving information
Good summation.
I'm here for Vince staples
Michael was a real one, that’s why he’s the king of 👑pop👑