Comparing Michael and Prince is like comparing Air and Water, especially without mentioning the Godfather of Soul. That being said, this is one of the best debates I've seen on this channel. Felt like I was in a barbershop! Dope!
As a Prince fan, the misconception of us is that we don't acknowledge Michael's greatness, as well. They are just DIFFERENT though. I love them both. Mike is for the heart, but Prince is for the soul. 💜
Joe sounds uneducated talking about MJ. If MJ didn’t rebel against MTV, Joe wouldn’t have grown up seeing the black artist music videos on MTV. Michael is the whole reason they did that. Michael rebelled against Pepsi and said he would give them 3 seconds in a commercial and wants control of his likeness and they gave it to him. Somehow he ends up with a burn accident from the Pepsi commercial shoot… He was 50% of Sony and refused to give it back and they plotted his death after that. He spoke out against Tommy Mattola at a time nobody else was doing that. Joe’s bias is crazy
Didn’t Joe see a MJ doc just a couple episodes ago, he said he was educated by the doc because he didn’t know his plight in the music game so yes he was uneducated.
@@288deuce6 yeah people say millennial just as a catch all for "younger people". He's a younger millennial but he is 30yrs old, he's experienced a good chunk of life.
@@ANTIStraussian born in 97 grew up in Lakeview apartments in Fort valley far from sheltered just wiser bruh we had to grow up fast I got older sheltered cousin who still plan for the future with kids
This is so wild, what a mad coincidence. I literally just watched an episode of Abbott Elementary and Vince Staples was on it, and now I get a notification about him being on the podcast😭
Calling Beyoncé lazy is crazy considering she was dancing on a broken knee. She was still recovering during her tour. But the last couple shows she went the hardest she could and you’ll see that in the Renaissance film too.
Prince beat Mozart, he mastered over 14 instruments by age 17, he could dance, sing any note, rap, he wrote, arranged, performed ALL his music, including wrote hits for other artists, he has covered almost every genre, Metal, Punk rock, hip hop, pop, r&b, soul, jazz, blues, country, ambience, classical, techno, house, instrumental. The Multi-Genre God. He could play anything, and your favorite artists have been deeply influenced by him. Corey Taylor, Whitney Houston, Steve Vai, Elton John, Stevie Wonder, Lil uzi vert, H.E.R. , Paul Mccartney, all worship Prince to just name a few. Prince recorded his first 2 albums at 16 all by himself, all instruments, lyrics, arrangement, composition & vocals were all by him. He was such a prodigy, that music executives wanted proof, they would fly across country just to see if he could really play all instruments, because it was so unheard of. Prince has over 50 official released albums and when he passed, they found over 10 thousand unreleased Prince music in his vault. He then came into the business and was the FIRST to fight for artists rights, and he WON. He would write "slave" on his cheek and go to meetings protesting against the industry. Prince was also the first artist to sell his music on the internet. You are talking about the most talented artist we will ever see.
What kept me out of prison was 1) My Mom told me : IF YOU EVER GET LOCK UP ... IMA LET YOU SIT THERE AND THINK ABOUT IT. 2) Was older dudes telling me and my friends HORROR STORIES OF DUDES GETTIN GANG RAPED ... YO, THAT ALONE STUCK IN MY HEAD. I been cuffed and taken in twice, but let go when they found out they had the wrong person.
Michael has a better catalog and is the best performer of all time. His music was more timeless and a lot of it stood the test of time. Could come out today and still sound fresh. Prince was great, but nobody could be Mike.
You don’t know Prince look at album review Prince drop 2 masterpieces in the 80”s Mike drop the biggest album it’s comparing a dragon and a Star Wars spaceship totally different both deadly.
Wait Vince Staples is 30 years old….I would never have the MJ/Prince conversation with him….if you wasn’t sitting in front of the TV with your whole entire family waiting for the Billie Jean premier don’t talk to me
People in the comments trying to bring down MJ to uplift Prince, bro go listen to his music then. Yall brag about him playing instruments but you don’t support the music or his legacy, Michale is more popular than ever and generations are keeping his legacy alive so who really won?
Flip pulled out a good point. Where to point blame when a company screws you and Joe has a tendency to go back and forth - sometimes crying about stolen royalties (DeLaSoul) and other times saying it was his fault. Just stand in that both things could be true. They screwed you AND you needed to get your own representation that wasn’t associated with the industry or your label.
Mike spoke out against the industry owners before Kanye. He got his song, “They don’t care about us” censored. Then they discredited his name and whacked him. RIP Michael.
At 1:21:12 is evidence of why the Flipp dynamic on this pod is priceless 💵💵 his socially awkward no caring ass is gold! 🫡🔥😂💯 love it!! He takes the conversation outside every time 👏🏾👏🏾
We are the world says different. There are some things Mike did to appease the label and his industry connections that Prince as an artist would have never done and I think that's the argument Joe is having as to which one is the greater artist.
When the brother is speaking on Gang members quitting, theres a few videos up on RUclips with dudes that quit. They had to be housed separately from general population and some had to get certain tattoos removed or tatted over or turn in their colors/vests (Bikers).And it's across the board: White,Black, Latin and Asian.
Vince and Joe is always a good time. Joe probably looks at Vince like a younger version of himself. By the way Mike alway been better than prince Mike was literally the biggest thing on the planet with the biggest songs and moments in musical history. Never been close but I respect Prince heavily
I think the MJ talk is hilarious after hearing Joe talk about the Thriller documentary. They saying "He was the best bet", but if y'all remember, Joe himself came on here and said "I didn't know they really wasn't fucking with Mike like that" in regards to off the wall, how it was received when it released, and the fact he didn't win a single award and got 0 love that whole run. But in this conversation here, Joe is speaking on Mike as if he was always a golden child that was GIVEN success. There was a real point where the industry didn't even want mike if he wasn't with the Jackson 5... but we'll just ignore that because we're having a Mike and Prince debate and you have a strong stance that Prince is better lol.
Emanny be talking to talk. Renaissance tour was amazing. Like hands down, its great. To call her lazy is wild as hell. She literally worked through knee surgery. 💀💀💀
Wait. The Wiz is trash? Quincy jones production. Heavy hitter Artist. It is the best it shows our culture. These so called woke people take it out of proportion. The Wiz was the Black Interpretation of us. For us to see us in our own vibe and light. Smh. Wow
I love The Wiz, but I do agree with Vince in that it was cringy because of who produced it and maybe even directed it. There are great moments in it, However there are moments your like wth. But again you gotta think of the times as well, who had the money to get this moving.And thats why I think it is so up and down.
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Anytime Vince is on its a classic
Every single time
facts 😂 JBP needs a Westcoast L.A. Based Pod w/ Vince and his people
Clicked so fast
No it ain't stop click baiting lol who tf is Vince staples😂
Clearly a new pod fan... sucks to be you sir.@cynthiareina1156
Vince when he said “he had a father, it’s not like he was Batman “ 💀💀💀😭😭😂😂😂😂
vince staples is a podcast gem
Nah just a gem gem. AND GEMini royalty
Id push ice out for Vince idk if joe can string that shit together
Vince should be a semi annual guest. Pay the man.
Comparing Michael and Prince is like comparing Air and Water, especially without mentioning the Godfather of Soul.
That being said, this is one of the best debates I've seen on this channel. Felt like I was in a barbershop! Dope!
💯💯💯
Daisy being tucked up under vince during that mj prince debate had me 💀
Was thinking the exact same thing lol she hopped right next to vince.
So cute lol
Fr lol shit was cute 😂😂
I got a lot more respect for Emanny after hearing him defend Michael. Michael Jackson will forever be that guy.
But he was wrong about 90% of the information
no
As a Prince fan, the misconception of us is that we don't acknowledge Michael's greatness, as well. They are just DIFFERENT though. I love them both. Mike is for the heart, but Prince is for the soul. 💜
Joe sounds uneducated talking about MJ. If MJ didn’t rebel against MTV, Joe wouldn’t have grown up seeing the black artist music videos on MTV. Michael is the whole reason they did that. Michael rebelled against Pepsi and said he would give them 3 seconds in a commercial and wants control of his likeness and they gave it to him. Somehow he ends up with a burn accident from the Pepsi commercial shoot… He was 50% of Sony and refused to give it back and they plotted his death after that. He spoke out against Tommy Mattola at a time nobody else was doing that. Joe’s bias is crazy
Didn’t Joe see a MJ doc just a couple episodes ago, he said he was educated by the doc because he didn’t know his plight in the music game so yes he was uneducated.
@@bythedutchmaster you are correct. I did go and watch that episode and he did in fact state what you said
@@bythedutchmasterthis ep is before that mj doc
💯💯💯💯
He literally agreed when Vince said that Michael was the best bet for the black artists vs MTV situation and to hold up the industry at that time.
I love when Vince is on. He rep the millennials well
Joe, Parks, Ice, & Flip are millennials. Just say younger generation, cause y’all be using shit wrong. Millennials are 40 years old…..
@@288deuce6 yeah people say millennial just as a catch all for "younger people". He's a younger millennial but he is 30yrs old, he's experienced a good chunk of life.
Right I'm 26 born in 97 the last millennials were born in 96
@@CarrotAngertbh the edges aren't that exact you could be a sheltered 96 kid who for all purposes is considered a Gen z
@@ANTIStraussian born in 97 grew up in Lakeview apartments in Fort valley far from sheltered just wiser bruh we had to grow up fast I got older sheltered cousin who still plan for the future with kids
This is so wild, what a mad coincidence. I literally just watched an episode of Abbott Elementary and Vince Staples was on it, and now I get a notification about him being on the podcast😭
🤣 emanny having his own name tatted on him is fucking wild AF 🤣🤣
It speaks. VOLUMES
how??? that's dope
A lot of ppl in the world have their own name on them. That was like one of the few first tatts ppl got.
Seems conceited and weird @@Eddienumbers007
@@Eddienumbers007facts
Vince is always a win
Vince Staples is one of my favorite people!!!!! Protect that Brotha at all costs!!!!
Who is he?
@@tiffanyblack6911rapper
The greatest mind in entertainment
@@tiffanyblack6911a rapper, actor, screenwriter, great philosopher of our times.
What a better CHristmas gift than to have a Vince Staples episode
These pods are evergreen. I could watch 20 years from today and enjoy like it was fresh.
Flip was the only one to laugh at Vince when he said “ My Afrikan ” lmao 😂
It's become a Cali thing
Vince! Classic and I haven’t even started the episode yet. Happy Holiday to anyone reading this and to the JPB crew
Vince needs to come on the pod at least once a month fr
Coming to the end of the patreon drops 👏🏾 Thanks to the podders and Happy Holidays 🫶🏾
When does the extra shows end?
@@earlwilliamsjr2415 It ended on Christmas
I love a good Vince staples appearance
Everybody leaving Joe alone on the mic at the end was dope🤣🤣🤣🤣🔥🔥🔥👍🏾
Calling Beyoncé lazy is crazy considering she was dancing on a broken knee. She was still recovering during her tour. But the last couple shows she went the hardest she could and you’ll see that in the Renaissance film too.
He stay talking foolishness every episode he’s on idek why they brought him on JBP he be blowing my shyt everytime
@@locogtheproducer6402 facts the pod be driving straight and as soon as Emanuel speaks he drives it off the Cliff🤣
Idk about lazy, but Beyoncé can’t see Ciara when it comes to dancing 😂😂😂
That boy Vince Staples is a national treasure
Glad the thriller doc happened Joe perspective changed now since this dropped
Wait, Vince started the Mel/Viola narrative?! 😂😂😂😂😂
Y'all love coming at the Midwest but Prince(Minneapolis, Minnesota) and MJ(Gary, Indiana)both from here ❤️💪🏾
Prince beat Mozart, he mastered over 14 instruments by age 17, he could dance, sing any note, rap, he wrote, arranged, performed ALL his music, including wrote hits for other artists, he has covered almost every genre, Metal, Punk rock, hip hop, pop, r&b, soul, jazz, blues, country, ambience, classical, techno, house, instrumental. The Multi-Genre God. He could play anything, and your favorite artists have been deeply influenced by him. Corey Taylor, Whitney Houston, Steve Vai, Elton John, Stevie Wonder, Lil uzi vert, H.E.R. , Paul Mccartney, all worship Prince to just name a few.
Prince recorded his first 2 albums at 16 all by himself, all instruments, lyrics, arrangement, composition & vocals were all by him. He was such a prodigy, that music executives wanted proof, they would fly across country just to see if he could really play all instruments, because it was so unheard of. Prince has over 50 official released albums and when he passed, they found over 10 thousand unreleased Prince music in his vault. He then came into the business and was the FIRST to fight for artists rights, and he WON. He would write "slave" on his cheek and go to meetings protesting against the industry. Prince was also the first artist to sell his music on the internet. You are talking about the most talented artist we will ever see.
Beautiful and well said tribute! Long live Prince 💜
And don't forget he was a Monster on the court!!!!
@@mr.robinson4664game....blouses
Drops mic!
And, his ass wasn’t out. It was fake. The real king of controversy
To say Mike wasn’t Mike till thriller is crazy lmao
Emannny really got his name tatted on his arm as Identification 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Emany is a nuts character
I saw that and thought it was nutty too 😂
Prince is in a league of his own. Period. .. and I love Mike but y'all gotta stop playing with Prince Rogers Nelson please, respectfully.💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
No you gotta stop overhyping him lol 😂
No one did, in the video they downplayed Mj
So stop downgrading Mj to hype up that purple man
Yo I can’t keep up with these drops JOE! Thank you!!!!
Vince is who Joe needs to hire for the podcast
I was raised in a Michael Jackson house hold 🤷🏽♀️
What kept me out of prison was 1) My Mom told me : IF YOU EVER GET LOCK UP ... IMA LET YOU SIT THERE AND THINK ABOUT IT. 2) Was older dudes telling me and my friends HORROR STORIES OF DUDES GETTIN GANG RAPED ... YO, THAT ALONE STUCK IN MY HEAD. I been cuffed and taken in twice, but let go when they found out they had the wrong person.
MICHAEL IS, WAS AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE KING!!!!!!!!!
I knew it was GOATED once I saw Vince was on again.
These people keeping me company while wrapping gifts at 0500 in the AM😂😂😂
Best episode of the year 🙏🏿🎉
Could rewatch a Vince ep any day. Happy holidays JBP family
This is a reuploaded patreon ep right?
@@benjaminmarsh8205yea seen this already on RUclips 😅
Been waiting on a Vince appearance
Michael has a better catalog and is the best performer of all time. His music was more timeless and a lot of it stood the test of time. Could come out today and still sound fresh. Prince was great, but nobody could be Mike.
You don’t know Prince look at album review Prince drop 2 masterpieces in the 80”s Mike drop the biggest album it’s comparing a dragon and a Star Wars spaceship totally different both deadly.
Joe starts yelling when he’s wrong lol
Ish too
It’s frustrating to see prince’s caterlogy on Spotify and his movies on RUclips. Everything he stood against, now readily available.
Happy Holidays JBP family
I wish Vince would be a part of the regular crew
Wait Vince Staples is 30 years old….I would never have the MJ/Prince conversation with him….if you wasn’t sitting in front of the TV with your whole entire family waiting for the Billie Jean premier don’t talk to me
😂😂😂😂 stop. Love Michael but he don't compare to Prince.
I see Vince with Joe, I know I’m bout to laugh 😂😂
A durag tucked in the back of a tank top might be THE sickest shit I ever heard of 1:02:58
Cuz u know it's done purposefully
Vince Staples is like my favorite character in life
Mike wasn't just the best performer, writer and singer but he was the best BUSINESSMAN. He owned half of SONY 's publishing before he died.
let them know!
I don't even know why they playing with Mike name like that.
Facts was almost a billionaire straight up
People in the comments trying to bring down MJ to uplift Prince, bro go listen to his music then. Yall brag about him playing instruments but you don’t support the music or his legacy, Michale is more popular than ever and generations are keeping his legacy alive so who really won?
The best thing about us MJ fans, we don't need to bring down prince to up lift MJ ❤
Flip pulled out a good point. Where to point blame when a company screws you and Joe has a tendency to go back and forth - sometimes crying about stolen royalties (DeLaSoul) and other times saying it was his fault. Just stand in that both things could be true. They screwed you AND you needed to get your own representation that wasn’t associated with the industry or your label.
Vince grinning while they explainin dirty Mackin 😂 he lowkey like 🤔 shit I been dirty mackin this whole time 😂😂😂
Vince is gay
Mike spoke out against the industry owners before Kanye. He got his song, “They don’t care about us” censored. Then they discredited his name and whacked him. RIP Michael.
16:12 Ish got me crying 😭😂😂
At 1:21:12 is evidence of why the Flipp dynamic on this pod is priceless 💵💵
his socially awkward no caring ass is gold! 🫡🔥😂💯 love it!! He takes the conversation outside every time 👏🏾👏🏾
the joke is like a week ago I said "yall need to get Vince back up there"....been a rough week so to come back to this is like gold!
AYO BIG DAWG - merry Christmas 🎄
Salute
Vince needs his own pod
36:15 ish puttin the headset back on bein fed up af lmao
ish the only one keeping the east vs west coast beef alive
Only watching for Vince 😅 They got me 😂
On God 😂😂
The ears tucked in the fitted is crazy yo 😂
I love me some Vince Staples for sure! Love when I see him on here ☺️
Michael Jackson was notorious for not putting out songs if they weren't 🔥. MJ don't have no filler.
Exactly they buggin
Every song is fire?
@@Blank9458nah he got some mid shit but not that much lol
as a michael fan he does have some filler but it is very very ittle compared to other artists. He is quality over quantity
We are the world says different. There are some things Mike did to appease the label and his industry connections that Prince as an artist would have never done and I think that's the argument Joe is having as to which one is the greater artist.
Wen Flip started rappin pump it up I lost it 😂😂😂😂
Yea! Give Michael his props!! ❤
Joe Face When Ish Walked Passed Him Was Priceless..😂😂😂😂
Great debate always a dope pod when Vince on here 💪🏾
“ I love Michael too I don’t think he did it either “
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Vince a fool
This reminded me of one of his Breakfast Club interviews talking about Michael only touching white kids. "Maybe thats how he had his fist up." 😂😂😂
The puppy just tryna sleep mayne😭😭
When the brother is speaking on Gang members quitting, theres a few videos up on RUclips with dudes that quit. They had to be housed separately from general population and some had to get certain tattoos removed or tatted over or turn in their colors/vests (Bikers).And it's across the board: White,Black, Latin and Asian.
My favorite guest
“When ya ass is out ya fucking jeans” 😂😂😂
Michael is a goat. A pop artist that spoke up to power
1:17:43 everybody head turn is crazy
Vince and Joe is always a good time. Joe probably looks at Vince like a younger version of himself. By the way Mike alway been better than prince Mike was literally the biggest thing on the planet with the biggest songs and moments in musical history. Never been close but I respect Prince heavily
Prince is fire, but Prince esteem was mainly the USA. Mike is known in every hood across the world.
@@RedolentleekEXACTLY im only 12 min in, but that all homie had to say He would have won his argument. 😂
16:17 This argument is too good🤣🔥 Dudes will ALWAYS have passionate takes about Mike and Prince
I like genuinely enjoy they give daisy the dog camera time 😂
She just wanna be down with the squad too
She is soo cute. I love how she keeps turning her head like she's following the argument
I never even knew that people actually thought the wiz was a bad movie 😂😂
Ish and Vince with the matching camos.. "He can't keep getting away with this"
I feel bad for Joes editing team & Parks when there’s 7 dudes yelling over each other at the same time for 85% of the episode 😂😂😂😂😂
I think the MJ talk is hilarious after hearing Joe talk about the Thriller documentary. They saying "He was the best bet", but if y'all remember, Joe himself came on here and said "I didn't know they really wasn't fucking with Mike like that" in regards to off the wall, how it was received when it released, and the fact he didn't win a single award and got 0 love that whole run.
But in this conversation here, Joe is speaking on Mike as if he was always a golden child that was GIVEN success. There was a real point where the industry didn't even want mike if he wasn't with the Jackson 5... but we'll just ignore that because we're having a Mike and Prince debate and you have a strong stance that Prince is better lol.
Okay this the best patreon episode so far
The Patron eps. Been clutch for the brokie audience
Vince is a genius!
Emanny be talking to talk. Renaissance tour was amazing. Like hands down, its great. To call her lazy is wild as hell. She literally worked through knee surgery. 💀💀💀
JBP fucking with my algorithms because I don’t see any Rory & Mal stuff anymore lol.
Michael was a real one, that’s why he’s the king of 👑pop👑
I'm here for Vince staples
Wait. The Wiz is trash? Quincy jones production. Heavy hitter Artist. It is the best it shows our culture. These so called woke people take it out of proportion. The Wiz was the Black Interpretation of us. For us to see us in our own vibe and light. Smh. Wow
Bro it’s not better than the original let’s be honest.
I’m a simple man, I see Vince in the title, I watch and hit that like button
I love The Wiz, but I do agree with Vince in that it was cringy because of who produced it and maybe even directed it. There are great moments in it, However there are moments your like wth. But again you gotta think of the times as well, who had the money to get this moving.And thats why I think it is so up and down.
Ciara Is by far a better dancer then Beyoncé y’all gotta chill
Wouldnt mind seein vince as a part of the show
Joe giving opinions, emanny giving information
Good summation.
Happy Holidays guys wishing 2024 will be as lit as 2023 🔥🔥🔥.
JBP should let Vince come by at least once a month or add him to the network 💪🏽
Maybe like once every 3-4 months
I prefer Vince over Emanny😂
Lmao is that Daisy next to Vince !?
Lmao I just saw that! Second time watching this episode