Patreon EXCLUSIVE | Rooted In Fear | The Joe Budden Podcast
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I don't like at all how they did not acknowledge that MEL was that "chic" when it came to video models. She definitely was not just a video girl.
I think their point is… as you said “she was def not just a video girl” that’s to HER… to society and to most of the men putting her in their videos… she just a hot chic and maybe I could smash …
Right?!? Trying to mansplain her life story back to her. 🙄
But they did and do. And follow that with nobody cares. What do you have to show for it now? Stories is what Joe wants from her but she to ashamed to share them. So nothing to show for the highlight of her life. It’s sad.
They always want Mel to talk about her experience but don’t create a safe space for her to do so. It actually comes off so mean when they literally laugh in her face.
I'm with Ish and Melissa on this topic. To demand someone tell you all their business for the purpose of money and entertaining the people is ridiculous. The bag is one aspect of life not all of it.
If humans had no conscious and morals then what would seperate us from animals?
It’s one thing to Demamd but you literally signed up for the job to put yourself out on a platform if you’re not interested in that then you shouldn’t be trying to be on the type of platform. Most people don’t tune in for the same conversation because you can’t be open on a public platform. Those who don’t wanna be exposed (Beyoncé/JayZ) don’t put themselves on platforms exposing them to exposure, questions and scrutiny.
This ain’t gonna end well. Well unless Joe got disclaimers in the contract 😂
Pick a different profession. Telling your personal business is part of the job description
I’m with emanny, that’s why I wouldn’t pod cause I’m not that open. Joe’s openness carry’s the pod, and it almost bit Joe when he held back on puffy…people want to hear the real not the brand you’re attempting to create.
I truly truly love ISH… this whole year he has made the podcast fun to watch. Please keep EMMANY behind the camera. Mel I love you too
Facts, he don’t fit
Yes he sucks …
Facts he had the most harsh opinion towards others while being the most sensitive and catty. He is worse than Ice, and that says a lot
I thought that was Ish Jr.
Agreed.
Ish understands how to balance being real and authentic and still podding
Thank you Ish and Mel for not giving up your stance.
Stand ya ground Mel💪🏿
The JBP is making real easy for us truck drivers right now with all these drops. Salut from all the truck drivers
keep yo eyes on the road nigga
Facts
(JMO) I’m with Mel… she actually was one of the pioneers of video vixen baddies. At one point it was MAJOR to have certain IT GIRLS in the industry in your videos. Mel being one of the top girls. There was also women like Claudia Jordan, Kenya Moore, Elise Neal, Lisa Raye, Lauren London etc. that IF you had them in your video - it POPPED! Plain and simple.
The video girls in the 90’s-early 2000’s were the black models in our culture. And how you KNEW they were apart of the IT crowd is because most of
The women I mentioned were at one point Jet magazine - beauty of the week!! Maybe men back during those times and current were seeing them as just “s** symbols” however in the entertainment industry and to woman they were black models. There did use to be a high respect for them - until the “shift” that Mel was speaking of.
Point blank and period.
If Mel says video vixens were held in high regard. Then thats what it is...PERIOD. She was one of the most sought out women to do the job and well known for her place in that realm. She knows the type of money and other perks that came with being her. WE DON'T!
Who are we to dispute that?
no, Mel is correct. There was def a time where all the women wanted to be video vixens. That was the goal, girls looked up to that. Maybe men didn't, but as a woman, many young girls could't wait. Being a video vixen had the same value or esteem as being a model. a shift then happened and it became looked down upon to be a video vixen/ music video girl.
Thank you! Superhead messed it up for them. But I totally understand what Mel was saying. We actually knew the women's names in the videos
How crazy is it that my fiancée was just telling me this last night. Told me she used to look up to Esther Baxter. Crazy
When you put it like this then I can see that being the case. Even my coworker, an Asian pharmacist, said she wanted to be a video vixen when she was a girl
I never knew any black women who wanted to grow up to be video. Vixens, I knew more guys who wanted to be rappers.
Mel is right/wrong. Treated with high regard, but definitely used as props. I don’t even remember her in the big Pimpin video. I just remember bodies in bikinis.
@@DymondCityRydazMel happened to be the most prominent video model. So maybe she's assuming every woman felt how she felt. To men we just saw a sexy woman maybe other women admired the fame a video music girl had but i just believe Mel wants to believe she had more prestige than she actually had. Could be a huge ego blow if she faced reality.
Ish always makes the most sense on the pod. 🎙
Always!!!
These clowns are going to lead Mel down a dark path thank god for Ish.
Start the clock for when they have to replace her when she's done with this shit. Go jbp
Agree, joe's senseless laughter during Mel serious vulnerable moments is so insensitive. And you can see she was starting to get upset and good job to Ish for continuing to ask questions to show interest and keep her talking
She knows how to play with the boys and she knows when to be vulnerable to remind them that she is a lady. That's important. We can express when things are not okay without splaining and being masculine.
They want Mel to be superhead so bad smh , I don’t get it
I like the way that Ish supported Mel through the segment. Society always expects black women to be salacious or scantily clad or loud, a thot, etc to be considered entertaining. Mel is doing an excellent job, we need more calm educated & beautiful black women in media! I feel Mel doesn't need to change or add anything else at all.
Don't Mel do only fans, aren't only fans seen 8n the same kind of light as video vixens
I don’t know if society created or supports Zeus network. But accountability means that it’s not all on society, some of these things are promoted by the very demographic who it hurts.
I was surprised because he's always disrespecting her... even more than Joe.
It’s only because he’s speaking for himself as well. Everything he’s saying can apply to himself. It’s not in support of her. They just agree on this topic. You don’t go from support to video vixens were just ppl to lust after. No one respected them or held them in high regard.
She's biracial though, but I do agree.
Mel, I love when you speak up! Please don't let anybody shut you up.
Yes!
im on the same part 🤣
Im a man and i agree.. and i hate it when they make bull shit jokes out of her trauma
🎯🎯🎯
Honestly Mel has some thick ass skin to be putting up with this.. she’s strong AF
You guys need to bring in another woman to help out Mel, cause you lot don’t allow to get her shit off without being biased with male prospectives
Exactly
Joe want a female cohost with Mel maturity and Chrisean story line.
I personally liked when the artist was a mystery and I could fully embrace the art without it being polluted by their personal lives.
Thats the thing tho they dont HAVE to share their personal lives it aint like they being forced. But sharing your life nowadays = more $$$ so more artists hopping in that lane.
They cant get on camera and pretend to be the smoothest calmest most perfect niggas of all time that are better than everybody else, when they got their own baggage like everybody else. They wanna have their cake and eat it too, be shitty humans off mic then turn on the mic and become gods to be worshipped
Music has always been about artistic expression, how are they getting on mic and expressing somebody elses truth it makes no sense. I would rather rap be a bunch of weird nerdy niggas like Lupe that are being themselves instead of fake tough studio gangstas that be getting they booty played with behind the scenes 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
Facts. I know verry little about the personal lives of my favorite entertainers. Stevie Wonder, Sade, Curren$y...just give me the slaps.
Right. I had just listened to a take that said Tyler The Creator was full of shit for telling music artists to focus on getting folks to like them for their music, and not for their personal lives. (Tyler’s right).
I completely agree.
Mel keep talking your truth and keep speaking up
What truth? She hasn’t said anything yet
ISH & Melissa is so real and honest this year. I enjoy how ISH isn't a yes man. Does Parks ever disagree with Joe? Smh.
Love how Ish handled the conversation on Ice Not sure where Joe was headed. And another salute to Big Mel, mental health and Ice’s kids are not boring. It makes the Pod be well rounded. YALL sexual escapades from the 90’s every ep is redundant. But salute to Joe for his ability to stay trending, mentioning big artists that will respond with large fan bases different demos Definitely earned the title Pod Father.
Kids are boring. So are the sexcapades. Just give me pop culture.
Don't cap all the emotional trauma sad shit depression pandering is boring af. U can turn on AM radio for all of that...
It’s funny because Joe doesn’t want to be associated with being a rapper anymore and want to rebrand himself to be viewed beyond love and Hiphop and rapper guy, but is confused on why Mel no longer wants to be associated with the video vixen / video girl brand ….out of everyone, he should relate the most
Very true
What’s funny is y’all hold Mel to what she say and tell her stand on it but y’all say y’all don’t have to. Now that’s comedy. This podcast ain’t no damn sitcom either 😂. If you do/say something wild on the pod you will be held accountable.
Joe sounded tone dead than be surprised when he get sucker punched in real life lol
I hope Mel can turn this opportunity into something on a different platform. The way y’all disregard her points knowing she’s not confrontational has been weird for a while.
They want Mel to be superhead so bad , I don’t get it lol
It’s weird af….
She will be nothing without the show. Don’t nobody give a damn about shawty outside this pod. Let her get her money
@@bigazTV weird comment but go off
No Mel has put herself in the position for people to come at her you lacking accountability for another grown woman is weird
@@chelsg9264 where was m ford before this podcast ? What was she doing ? Who was checking for her ? Not a weird take at all this must be Melissa fords burner account because NOBODY IS CHECKING FOR OLD GOODS
Thanks for all these extra up-loads. JBP #1😅😅
I can’t keep up lol I literally look to see what they’re wearing 😂
It’s a every December thing
@@LunchTicketsPodcast😂😂😂😂😂😂😂❤😂😂❤😂❤
@@LunchTicketsPodcast😊
Yes!
I’m sorry Mel but the truth hurts lmao nobody looked at vixens in any regard besides sexual objects unfortunately
Mel made some good points about her experience. Make a safe space then she might open up. Bring a bobble head on and the viewers gon’ roast them too
She’s not a safe space herself. That’s the beef.
“ some of y’all started prostituting” -JOE😂
Talking about mental health does not have to be boring. There can be some humor when people start comparing their mental health challenges.
Joe asking Mel to be authentic and then saying that he doesn’t even remember what he says on the pod when he leaves is peak hypocrisy…but par for him…😒
Emanny is a good (very) occasional guest. We love the regular crew!
I’m kinda over him
this is a conversation show lol not a music band stfu
@@domow865were you his boyfriend?
Emany straight to me cuz actually have hard opinion other cast member play it safe and boring mel and ish boring tbh. Ish be have them old nigga responses
@@domow865dead ass, been over him.
Joe cooking with these Patreon exclusives
Joe said DROP ALL THE EPS BEFORE THE YEAR IS DONE. love it
If you know RUclips you know why they do this every year. 🧠
All month long they said on IG i hope thwy drop a special episode on Christmas 👀
"I'm providing...MF" -Parks 😂😂😂
Mel was able to succeed and keep her dignity intact in a industry that was lead by white women, she found a avenue that worked for her and is still working for her hence her being a part of the JBP. And I’m glad she’s not hoe-ing herself out or telling all her business for the entertainment of a bunch of vultures waiting to project their insecurities onto her. When Mel said what she said about being held at a high regard she wasn’t talking about the E’s of the world, the people people sitting at home she was talking about the industry.
How you think she getting all these gigs? Bitches been smashing for placements since the 80s aint no way that tradition stopped all of a sudden 🤷🏿♂️
Mel should be further than where she is....begging for gigs, ie, Jason Lee, Fox Soul Black News, her Pod...all flopped now JBP. I just expected more from her since 19 or 2000 But still out there at 50....auntie looking.
@@ChelleB65 IJS... FACTSSSSS
I keep saying this… idk where things went left for her but I hope she has another wind of success soon
@@ChelleB65that's pretty harsh but let's keep it here. In comparison to her peers I think shes been highly successful. She was introduced to us through Hip Hop culture as a video girl. Video girls were not viewed with the best light in that era. I think her stretching that into a 20 year career in the industry with her dignity intact is to be praised. She's outlasted her peers who were having sex for favors. She had no direct talent outside of looks and she's still here. And as far as Auntie looking, what do you think you look like😅😅
Swear Joe Budden sounds smart to a dumb person lol he contradicts his self so many times. You cant compare this podcast to Abbot Elementary. Ish and Mel made valid points. This podcast yall share yall real names, real life stories, real experiences, real professions. Yall are not playing a character. Joe’s actions on this “podcast” got him in some real life consequences in the real world “taxtone & cesar incident”. Many other incidents too. So how is he saying this show and whats displayed on this show should be looked at in the same light as a television show? If that was true he wouldnt have to hire security just to go to clubs after that.
@@EARiot all im saying is Joe has to realize people will view this content for a certain amount of realism. That whole “view this podcast like you view a tv show” is bs. Like Mel & Ish said, TV characters have a script, story, and are characters in a show. This podcast talks about real events, real people (Diddy, Meg, Johnathan Majors, Dj Envy, Drake etc.)they give real opinions, some opinions that might be distasteful and can cause drama down the line. So joe has to acknowledge that and cut that “this is fake” shit.
Big facts if its a character why you need security now lol
Yeaaa Joe just be saying anything sometimes…. Ish cooked him
@@EARiotWTF Jamie Foxx has a different name?
Mel is soo right on the Video Vixen being held in a high regard at a certain time. Because I definitely know that time she’s referring to & wanted to be a video vixen!
What is she referring to then? Cuz I'm STILL lost
Held in high regard to whom? Because you wanted to be a video vixen doesn't make her correct. You could've just been a whore in training. 😂
Joes face at 46:22 is how I feel when Mel start talking that bullshit. 😅😅😂😂
Facts .... you modeled in hip hop videos ...... thats all i know about you
That boy Ish be tearing they ass up he had parks and Joe befuddled he was right in what he saying
49:50 conversation was actually really captivating joe i think it just feels different from your perspective listening to it on the couch and or maybe the numbers reflect that these types of convos dont do well but me personally and others im sure really enjoy these candid convos where everyone participates. if you add to the conversation rather then laugh you might be outta here
I agree. The show is even better when they hold the mature conversations. Joe be stepping on the convo if it ain’t clip worthy or not interesting enough to him tho’.
His addition is making fun of everyone all the time, giggling and other immature behavior that disrupts the convo flow.
This is one of the best podcast shows ever honestly Joe Budden God bless you and your team
Shout out to everyone that literally just left the Patreon on a Monday only to check in on YT for more COE.
Damn they straight up diminished Mel’s music video modeling career. That’s harsh. Mel seems like she would be a better fit for The Breakfast Club.
That’s actually a good idea. Cuz she horrible here
They didn't diminish they told her the truth
@@SeeJayTMLfacts they were NOT super models. They were pretty girls that danced... they barely even spoke one word.
Joe Budden has put together a solid cast of individuals.Great personalities that can smoothly move conversations
When Mel said the video vixen changed the industry made me laugh out loud lmao!!
😂😂😂 yea she bugging
I get it now! Joe keep Mel on the pod bcuz her level of tone deafness is unprecedented! She is the worst but he keep her bcuz it invokes emotion/engagement = $ for JBP
Big Facts 💯
She delusional... its good for pod engagement but i dont think its good for her career. I used to think she was smart... now i know she is just an airhead with a pretty face and nice body
I’m giving you my lived experience. Men: nope you’re all wrong 😳🤣
Mel has difficulty seeing things for what they actually are. If she had brothers she might not be so delusional. 🥷🏿🥷🏽🥷 have been lying to he for years because they wanted to Pop.
Notification Gang, thank JBP drops going crazy
It’s easy for E to say that he’s not famous you can be entertaining without being a hoe or talking about negativity
Exactly. He really annoyed me this episode.
Joe basically said "i am not gang gang, i do not gang bang"
Bro was not tryna get da rico over the ho statement 🤣🤣🤣
Sorry I’m with Ish and Mel- keep yo Ho ish to yourself especially for your brand and family
Mel just be saying anything 😂😂
Right on time thanks
We gotta Big up The JBP for holding E down during this tough time
What happened to E?
@@PurpleLionRshis mom recently passed away
49:45 is why we enjoy listening to the JBP.
That cut at 52:36 was CRAZY 😂😂😂
Mad ill
E stated facts at 44:30, Mel thinking video models were held in a high regard is insane. They were just eye candy nothing more. Karrine aka super head exposed the video model industry. They were looked at as industry Hoes always , even during The Uncle Luke era. Mel just doesn't want to admit that being a video model is superficial and it was always only about how they looked nothing more.
Well if that was the case, there wouldn't have been so much branding around a small group of women who became staples for their look for the artists to showcase in their visual marketing. They were the super models (Giselle, Naomi, so forth) of the hip hop industry. They were promoted as the type of women that are considered the standard when you getting money.
And karrine?? Please, she wasn't like them. She actually brought the super model status down.
@@jennaywilliams7664ok lol
@@jennaywilliams7664there is branding around certain strippers down south too. E was right... melissa was definitely at the top of the game but you kinda seem to have an inaccurate view of what video "vixens" were
@@813entertainment9 wtf does that have to do with video girls that don't even have to be acrobatic or bucket @ss naked. They dressed like go go dancers 😂 like a bihhh you'll find at hooters. I think your pene is straying you away from the marketing. And you not getting near any of those video models to even throw a dollar
@@813entertainment9 and Melissa didn't call herself a vixen. That was that porn star karrine.
We appreciate all the content! COE!
I love JBP these videos get me through the day at work 😂😂
Facts
Word !!
This is all I tell my people’s !!😂😂😂
Fam your username is nuts Lol
I mean they dropped so many these last couple days it's hard to keep up. It should be a good work week catching up on these episodes. ❤
Mel really has a misguided memory of who we as viewers saw her and other video girls as
I think that surprised most of us but I think ish and emanny made it clear the public NEVER held video vixens in high regard Other than that Mel is usually on point
I have to say, with it just being Mel, Joe, Ish, and the white dude, I like this little crew together. I enjoyed this convo!
WE LOVE MEL JUST THE WAY SHE IS!
These Patreon eps are 🔥🔥🔥
I don’t think anyone is looking at this podcast like a scripted show like Abbott Elementary. And people definitely will judge you for the things you say.
Yeah he was def just podding. Ish cracked his muffin
@@lastreal4111 I agree. And bleeping to protect yourself doesn't always work because consumers are going to think "why say it in the first place?"
Mel that was Classy and Classic 😂 first minute 👌🏾 I like that 😅
ish & Mel was best friends this episode and I’m so excited for them💚💚
I'm like 20 pods behind & Joe keep dropping lmao
I have patreon but still like coming to RUclips to rewatch it
The girls definitely knew Brittany when she was a fitness girl. She was having sold out fitness classes. She was killing it.
🤨…. 😂
Nah we not letting y'all get away with that
@@MannyTwice I’m being 100%. Lol She would even travel to do the classes. The girls knew her. The girls was upset when she started getting crazy online.
right! I hate how Mel let them convince her she was tripping. Brittany was popping as a fitness girl!
@@ugouchendu581Mel isn't aggressive enough to stand on her points or she goes out of her way to not look or sound like a "angry black woman". But I agree with you, it's hard for me to listen to her because she has great points sometimes but she let's them laugh their way out of her checking them on something.
I think this might be the new crew, a pod without flip and ice might be needed once in a while 🔥🔥🔥
💯
Y’all dropping DAILY!!🎉
Mel. You gotta accept your past. Embrace it. It made you who you are. Just be yourself. . . That’s the best brand, with love. ❤
Yea I think her POV becomes a joke because sis hasn’t embraced it in every way. She should just accept all of it and stop trying to make it more than what it was. She was a video girl and today she would be another instagram girl. It is what it is. She should be proud that she made something out of it unlike so many others. It doesn’t take away from her being smart or anything, but girl you weren’t a supermodel lol
Look at Joe trying to separate himself from the pod. That way when he says something crazy, he can say that’s not really me😂😂😂. I see you Joe 😉
Ish wanting to iron the singles feels like it is exactly on brand!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great discourse on this episode imo. If this pod still exists in 2025, I’m gonna be a guest on it
Speak it into existence!
"Grown talk" with mel ,ish, and parks 🤑 joe buddens production 💰
Hell yea! Perfect timing
Mel. U R a legend. And I think it’s amazing that as a video vixen …. U did keep ur …. I can’t think of the word. Whatever ur a legend Mel. Men don’t get it . Men just don’t get it.
Keep her what, this is why the guys come at her so hard, she said was a video vixen, held at a high standard, then she watched the shift. She then said sho don't want everyone to think that's what she is all about, HOW, she was a video vixen 20 years later she has a only fans page, how is she not who she portray herself to be.
All these uploadss 😩💕🙌🏽
1:07:18 Mel thought she got Ish then Joe came out of left field like now hold up ma’am, y’all not the only ones anymore 😂
Yooooo!!! Yall been going HAMMMMM❤
Yo I’m loving the consistent content 🙏🏿
And last comment, for now…video models WERE on top at one point. They were on covers…documentaries were made on them and a lot of girls wanted to be them. Super disrespectful they’re being…
They just like giving her a hard time. No way they 40+ acting like they don’t remember that era. 🙄
Group intervention for Mel…😂😂😂 53:11
How dare they try to say Mel is an entertaining they stifle a good majority of what she tries to speak on!!!
If you let her speak more and finish her thoughts I think she would be even more entertaining!!!
Na... remember a prior episode, when they told her how to talk guys... she takes too long and isn't entertaining while she is blabbing. You just want to tell her to shut up.
Joe has a unique ability to stretch out a story in a unique way (i dont have that skill and most people do NOT... Mel is like most people she aint like Joe)
Facts, Mel rarely gets to finish a response
@@feej3922 because we all already know what she is going to say...
Mel be delusional sometimes but what is life without delusion
She sound annoying as hell 95% of the time. But i bet she would be a good girlfriend if she cut that feminist 💩 out. She NOT the beat podder but she might have some of that Junior cougar game
This nigga Joe be debating for the sake of debating. But that's what makes this the best podcast to me
Mel tried hard to justify that BS 😂😂😂😂
Ish is boding everyone & I’m with him on this topic & to be honest when I think about it.. All this is gonna do is lead to more censorship across the board & people are really not looking at this as a whole because If business ultimately leads to suppression then what are you fighting for ?
Definitely Love All the Episodes Dropping But WHERE TF IS FLIP I REPEAT WHERE TF IS FLIPPY 😂😂😂
FYI, as a child, I never aspired to be in a music video as a model, because like most Men, I considered those Women to be talentless and mere Eye Candy. As a DANCER, I aspired to PROFESSIONALLY DANCE in a music video. THOSE WOMEN were held in high regard. I think Mel is very very confused.
You’re so so confused
The moment in time Mel is referring to ,
video vixens were held second to the rapper/artist
@@ill772 NEVER‼️
@@TheFAROthey were though. At that time the video vixens were household names and were on the cover of Jet Magazine etc.
@@Marcie2301 hmmm... Never noticed. I appreciate the knowledge. I remember Jet. Had no idea they were featuring Vixens. That's interesting 🤔...
Let Mel finish !!!!!!!!!!!! Wow. Smh.
You just know that when Ish go to the barber shop he feel like Denzel doing the king kong speech.
1:10:44 Ish is funny af, I literally LOL at that and I’m still 😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
41:34 YOU DONT NEED PERMISSION FROM THE WORLD, it’s YOUR LIFE. You presented yourself as a sexy, confident woman who knew her power and capitalized off of it without becoming a victim to the music industry.
No
@@Floniddy127looool😂
50, single, no kids, and desperately trying to make a relationship work, is the definition of a victim lmao. Notice how she never talks about that shit with fond memories 😂 I bet she felt like a victim when the bottle hit her
@@justadude1477youz a hater kid
Melissa Ford is delusional. The video girls were strictly just baddies and not high regarded models. I think some of them should’ve had more opportunities for Sports Illustrated and things like that but were just liked their pretty faces and bodies.
Exactly, and now she has a only fans page, and guess what, it's ok, a opportunity to make money, just own it.
Emanny keeping it 💯
Re: Mel’s take on Bey and Rhi: You need both yin and yang. If there was only one, people would need to create duality in the only one they have by tearing that one to pieces. It’s the balance that keeps the peace.
Comparing actors on a written scripted tv show to real people on a pod cast is taking me a minute to comprehend
Like I get podding but sometimes the takes they have are just 🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾
"Video models held at the highest regard" always sounds crazy to me 😂